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hibee316
31-08-2024, 09:18 AM
Everyone seems absolutely devasted after the transfer window.

I'm going to give them all a chance and think we could do well! You never know!

Got to give the players a chance to bed in.

Also, interesting to see Hibs do have money to spend, just a shame Celtic came in.


No point being miserable about it all.the time.

overdrive
31-08-2024, 09:27 AM
The issue is that the issues we’ve had for years haven’t been resolved and in the case of defence and goalkeeper, looks to have got significantly worse.

The midfield lacks drive and creativity. It looked like we were trying to sort that with trying to sign McCowan. I think many thought that even if we don’t get him at least that’s the sort of player we are looking at. Yet it turns out, it was just him we wanted rather than that type of midfielder in general. So when we lost out on him (and I have no issue losing out to Celtic) we are stuck with a one-paced midfield that has struggled for years.

7Hero
31-08-2024, 09:32 AM
everything you say is fine, you're just missing the point.

we haven't strengthened where we desperately needed to strength. For about the 8th Transfer window in a row. I think people are allowed to be miserable about that..

Houston7
31-08-2024, 09:35 AM
Everyone seems absolutely devasted after the transfer window.

I'm going to give them all a chance and think we could do well! You never know!

Got to give the players a chance to bed in.

Also, interesting to see Hibs do have money to spend, just a shame Celtic came in.


No point being miserable about it all.the time.

Come on - you’re not allowed to be reasonable on here! However, I tend to agree with you & hope the new players don’t read some of the vitriol on here. Nevertheless, I do have an issue in there apparently been no Plan B for the midfield.

easty
31-08-2024, 09:37 AM
Come on - you’re not allowed to be reasonable on here! However, I tend to agree with you & hope the new players don’t read some of the vitriol on here. Nevertheless, I do have an issue in there apparently been no Plan B for the midfield.

What’s the Plan A for the midfield, I cannae see that we have one.

Joe6-2
31-08-2024, 09:41 AM
everything you say is fine, you're just missing the point.

we haven't strengthened where we desperately needed to strength. For about the 8th Transfer window in a row. I think people are allowed to be miserable about that..

This is the thing that makes me angry, season upon season the fans can see this but window after window it’s been ignored, you have to ask why? What are the guys in charge watching?

Smartie
31-08-2024, 09:41 AM
Everyone seems absolutely devasted after the transfer window.

I'm going to give them all a chance and think we could do well! You never know!

Got to give the players a chance to bed in.

Also, interesting to see Hibs do have money to spend, just a shame Celtic came in.


No point being miserable about it all.the time.

There's a phrase "under promise - over deliver".

Hibs have chosen to do the opposite in recent years, to raise expectations amongst the support, expectations they then fail to meet.

There are a lot of unknowns with this Hibs squad. If the defence and keeper gel then it might not be as bad as some think but if they don't then it could be really ugly.

We seem to have found a way to spend an awful lot more money on poorer quality than we were ever used to having before though, which is baffling.

There are also big question marks again and again about higher level strategic approach when it comes to stuff like recruitment. It's impossible to see much of a plan rather than just spray panic buying and then try to cobble a team together out of who we've actually managed to capture.

I get the anger, even if I'm tempering my own for now.

LunasBoots
31-08-2024, 09:43 AM
Everyone seems absolutely devasted after the transfer window.

I'm going to give them all a chance and think we could do well! You never know!

Got to give the players a chance to bed in.

Also, interesting to see Hibs do have money to spend, just a shame Celtic came in.


No point being miserable about it all.the time.

Years upon years under the Gordon's does that to you, excited years ago but the constant failures just drain it out of you to the point I feel a real disconnect with Hibs.

Houston7
31-08-2024, 09:46 AM
What’s the Plan A for the midfield, I cannae see that we have one.

What? I was referring to the attempts to land McCowan with no back up plan to secure an alternative.

Iain G
31-08-2024, 09:48 AM
This is the thing that makes me angry, season upon season the fans can see this but window after window it’s been ignored, you have to ask why? What are the guys in charge watching?

The guys in charge have just tried to spend the best part of a million quid to solve those they are hardly ignoring the issue!

TrinityHFC
31-08-2024, 09:49 AM
everything you say is fine, you're just missing the point.

we haven't strengthened where we desperately needed to strength. For about the 8th Transfer window in a row. I think people are allowed to be miserable about that..

Are you talking specifically about a McCowan type player because we’ve signed multiple players in every other position and we clearly did try to resolve that one too.

Being very depressed about being one player short?

Joe6-2
31-08-2024, 09:55 AM
The guys in charge have just tried to spend the best part of a million quid to solve those they are hardly ignoring the issue!

Do you believe they were? Why no plan B if they have that sort of money?

TrinityHFC
31-08-2024, 10:05 AM
Do you believe they were? Why no plan B if they have that sort of money?

There wasn’t anyone else that met specifically what we are looking for at this point? I know it isn’t our job to know but McCowan had a proven record in this league in a particular position. I don’t know who else was possible for that money at this time.

hibstag
31-08-2024, 10:15 AM
I'm concerned about not signing for 800k a non international 27 year old player who played the majority of his games at championship level in Scotland, honestly I am,

O'Rourke3
31-08-2024, 12:47 PM
I'm concerned about not signing for 800k a non international 27 year old player who played the majority of his games at championship level in Scotland, honestly I am,I notice you omit the Celtic interest and subsequent transfer there. Anything in that fact that might get in the way of our offer? It's not eBay eith a buy now button.

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InvertedFullBak
31-08-2024, 12:56 PM
Everyone seems absolutely devasted after the transfer window.

I'm going to give them all a chance and think we could do well! You never know!

Got to give the players a chance to bed in.

Also, interesting to see Hibs do have money to spend, just a shame Celtic came in.


No point being miserable about it all.the time.

Disappointed but not surprised. Yet again we’ve failed to address the midfield situation that’s been glaringly needing surgery for god knows how long now. A few injuries and we’re all back to Campbell , Newell and Doyle hayes which we all know is crap.

Putting all the eggs into one basket with McCowan and no sign of a plan b of we didn’t get him , which we all knew was gonna happen when Celtic declared an interest is not even amateur level.

I personally think it’s all about getting through the season without the disaster of going down and another reset in the next summer window. Around 10-15 out the door with a lot of high earners being moved out is what the club needs.

What a mess Ian Gordon has left us in with his transfer policy of signing anyone who looks good on a spreadsheet.

Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 01:04 PM
The guys in charge have just tried to spend the best part of a million quid to solve those they are hardly ignoring the issue!

Come on, they absolutely should have had a contingency rather than being left with nothing. The planning on recruiting a creative midfielder should not have been to keep under bidding for a player and having no plan B, it’s an utter shambolic attempt at best or a complete smoke screen at worst. They’ve failed again, that is the bottom line.

high bee
31-08-2024, 01:05 PM
I must admit I am concerned why we didn't sign someone else when McCowan fell through. If you attempt to fix a problem at great cost then you acknowledge it’s a key area so when it falls through then you should be able to at least have a go at fixing it at a lesser cost. It’s a long time until the Jan window to have another go at solving it.

greenlex
31-08-2024, 01:16 PM
I must admit I am concerned why we didn't sign someone else when McCowan fell through. If you attempt to fix a problem at great cost then you acknowledge it’s a key area so when it falls through then you should be able to at least have a go at fixing it at a lesser cost. It’s a long time until the Jan window to have another go at solving it.
I’m not. Perhaps it was him with nothing else near what we’re trying to do available this window. Lots of players getting paid for doing little leaving next summer so happy to wait for the right one. Signing possibly dos’s got us in the big squad position we are in. Quality loans don’t really happen in the summer.

Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 01:21 PM
I’m not. Perhaps it was him with nothing else near what we’re trying to do available this window. Lots of players getting paid for doing little leaving next summer so happy to wait for the right one. Signing possibly dos’s got us in the big squad position we are in. Quality loans don’t really happen in the summer.

So good players aren’t available at the start of the window and now you can’t get good loans in the summer window. Let’s just wait another year and fix this mess when we’re in the Championship then, what a load of nonsense, there are plenty of options around the world that can pass a ball better than Josh Campbell. It’s just our pathetic recruitment department that are incapable of finding them:

greenlex
31-08-2024, 01:25 PM
So good players aren’t available at the start of the window and now you can’t get good loans in the summer window. Let’s just wait another year and fix this mess when we’re in the Championship then, what a load of nonsense, there are plenty of options around the world that can pass a ball better than Josh Campbell. It’s just our pathetic recruitment department that are incapable of finding them:

Loans mate. Not first targets. Happy enough to let MM get on with it for a few windows. You or me for that matter don’t know what’s available. I’m sure we were offered quite a few.

Baldy Foghorn
31-08-2024, 01:30 PM
2 strikers of quality in. 2 cdm's are better than we have, an exciting winger, and a left sided CB. Are folk letting not getting McCowan cloud judgements?

Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 01:36 PM
Loans mate. Not first targets. Happy enough to let MM get on with it for a few windows. You or me for that matter don’t know what’s available. I’m sure we were offered quite a few.

It’s not my job to know what’s available, my job is to keep spending £400+ on a season ticket and quite rightly expect a club the size of Hibs to be able to find a half decent creative midfielder after about 4 + seasons without one. It’s inconceivable that there’s no one available in the whole world that’s affordable and better than Josh Campbell, We are in real bother this season and will struggle to keep out of the play off positions due to our recruitment.

lyonhibs
31-08-2024, 01:40 PM
Years upon years under the Gordon's does that to you, excited years ago but the constant failures just drain it out of you to the point I feel a real disconnect with Hibs.

It's been, what, 5 years?? A drop in the ocean of time in the history of HFC.

One Day Soon
31-08-2024, 01:41 PM
The guys in charge have just tried to spend the best part of a million quid to solve those they are hardly ignoring the issue!

They failed. They failed to land a back up. They failed to have a back up with which to try to force the pace of early negotiations with Dundee before Celtic came in.

Outcomes are what matter not intent. They had over £10 million of capital into the club recently. They also know that a large number of players are leaving next summer, freeing up a lot of wages. They were in a unique position for us of having both a large amount of capital available to spend on transfers and wage budget being freed up next summer to accommodate the wages of two or three higher grade signings. They failed to do that.

I wonder how much of that £10 million plus will be available next year for transfers rather than being burned off or frittered on non football related wizard ideas?

lyonhibs
31-08-2024, 01:42 PM
Everyone seems absolutely devasted after the transfer window.

I'm going to give them all a chance and think we could do well! You never know!

Got to give the players a chance to bed in.

Also, interesting to see Hibs do have money to spend, just a shame Celtic came in.


No point being miserable about it all.the time.

It's very important to be psychopathically miserable on . net. Oddly, the only thing about the past few months that really bothered me, Mackay's appointment after his crass racism as a man in his early 40's, was shushed away as "give the man a chance", a mentality that oddly appears to, for many, not stretch to our actual signings.

greenlex
31-08-2024, 01:43 PM
2 strikers of quality in. 2 cdm's are better than we have, an exciting winger, and a left sided CB. Are folk letting not getting McCowan cloud judgements?

Yes. TDD has a lot to answer for. All the players bar 1 are no better or worse than we have too. All based on a handful of games.

One Day Soon
31-08-2024, 01:43 PM
Come on, they absolutely should have had a contingency rather than being left with nothing. The planning on recruiting a creative midfielder should not have been to keep under bidding for a player and having no plan B, it’s an utter shambolic attempt at best or a complete smoke screen at worst. They’ve failed again, that is the bottom line.

They are utterly unqualified to do the jobs they are failing to do.

greenlex
31-08-2024, 01:44 PM
It’s not my job to know what’s available, my job is to keep spending £400+ on a season ticket and quite rightly expect a club the size of Hibs to be able to find a half decent creative midfielder after about 4 + seasons without one. It’s inconceivable that there’s no one available in the whole world that’s affordable and better than Josh Campbell, We are in real bother this season and will struggle to keep out of the play off positions due to our recruitment.
My turn for the nonsense opinion.

One Day Soon
31-08-2024, 01:46 PM
It's very important to be psychopathically miserable on . net. Oddly, the only thing about the past few months that really bothered me, Mackay's appointment after his crass racism as a man in his early 40's, was shushed away as "give the man a chance", a mentality that oddly appears to, for many, not stretch to our actual signings.

Or it's very important to be irrationally content.

MWHIBBIES
31-08-2024, 01:47 PM
Well probably be fine. 2 pretty quality forwards, which is often enough to finish high in this league.

If Youan comes back interested, we could be really quite good.

It hasn't been a bad window at all.

Real Emerald
31-08-2024, 01:48 PM
My turn for the nonsense opinion.

What part is nonsense.? We have failed again to get a creative midfielder and we are still fielding a player who can rarely find a team mate with a pass. What part of that is nonsense?