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Billy Whizz
28-08-2024, 12:19 PM
Any thoughts😎

USA_Hibee
28-08-2024, 12:26 PM
I've no issue with it. Certainly if it's for a team that sells out often.

However.. this is Man City. I've been to a few games and there's always been empty seats. Unless they all happen to be season ticket holders who can't go 😁.

McD
28-08-2024, 12:30 PM
I've no issue with it. Certainly if it's for a team that sells out often.

However.. this is Man City. I've been to a few games and there's always been empty seats. Unless they all happen to be season ticket holders who can't go 😁.



Wonder if they’re now starting to have a bit of a waiting list for STs, and realising that there’s fans who only attend occasionally (as there does often appear to be plenty empty seats), and with a recognition that there is money to be made in kiosks etc when people want to be there, plus the better crowd noise/tv exposure

CapitalGreen
28-08-2024, 12:35 PM
Any thoughts😎

Would hope we’d do similar if we were selling out all of our tickets but some seats were sitting empty.

Stairway 2 7
28-08-2024, 12:37 PM
City and United reportedly both got around 120,000 on their season ticket waiting lists but they basically never come up as everyone renews. The big clubs could sell out the stadiums to season ticket holders but don't want to as they make much more from single day sales and corporate packages. Liverpool have less than 50% of the ground as season ticket

Capacity/season tickets
Manchester City 53,000 36,000
Manchester United 74,000 53,000
Arsenal 60,000 45,000
Liverpool 60,000 28,000

Bobby's Cinema
28-08-2024, 12:53 PM
Any thoughts😎
It doesn't seem to say what will happen if you don't?

MWHIBBIES
28-08-2024, 01:50 PM
Most clubs with big waiting lists, like Dortmund, Real Madrid, Hearts etc do similar.

Pretty Boy
28-08-2024, 02:21 PM
I think it's fair enough from Man City tbh.

They aren't demanding fans attend a game, they have given plenty options that constitute usage even if you can't make the game and allowing people to not use their ticket at all for up to 5 games before taking any action is pretty lenient when you have a waiting list.

Up-the-slope
28-08-2024, 02:33 PM
Seems really sensible all round and as has been mentioned plenty of options that constitute attending (like why would you not donate to the charity foundation :confused:) totally laziness not to just click one of the options. They are not expecting 100% attendance and empty seats benefit no one.

If Hibs were sold out permanently and we had those options... potentially Kick for Kids type option too surely folks would do that?. I eventually gave up ST as almost 1/3 of home games were ending up on Sundays which I had more important things on - so it ended up unused.

snedzuk
28-08-2024, 02:52 PM
I wonder if ticket holders in hospitality get these, or are they reserved for 'plebs'.

Cardinal G
28-08-2024, 04:12 PM
[QUOTE=snedzuk;7756483]I wonder if ticket holders in hospitality get these, or are they reserved for 'plebs'.[/QUOTE

For me prime example is Wembley, after half time its virtually a sea of empty red seats on half way line in areas behind the dugouts as all the hospitality guests stay back in lounges for 2nd half, looks terrible to view during game.

DIXIHIBS
28-08-2024, 04:15 PM
Most clubs with big waiting lists, like Dortmund, Real Madrid, Hearts etc do similar.
:greengrin

Lancs Harp
28-08-2024, 04:17 PM
[QUOTE=snedzuk;7756483]I wonder if ticket holders in hospitality get these, or are they reserved for 'plebs'.[/QUOTE

For me prime example is Wembley, after half time its virtually a sea of empty red seats on half way line in areas behind the dugouts as all the hospitality guests stay back in lounges for 2nd half, looks terrible to view during game.

Its the same in every English football ground.not just hospitality but also being able to buy a pint at half time. Means half your lads have diappeared 5 minutes before half time and dont reappear until 5 minutes after half time. Will be the same in Scotland should alcohol in stadiums ever be re-introduced.

J-C
28-08-2024, 05:06 PM
Man U used to do this, my laddie was on a list that got regular tickets allocated when they became available, after a while he got offered his own ST but resale etc, is quite common at these larger clubs.

CapitalGreen
28-08-2024, 05:22 PM
Man U used to do this, my laddie was on a list that got regular tickets allocated when they became available, after a while he got offered his own ST but resale etc, is quite common at these larger clubs.

Nit sure if it’s still the case but Man Utd use to force their season ticket holders to purchase tickets for cup games or their season ticket would be suspended from attending the next league fixture.

Paul1642
28-08-2024, 05:37 PM
Makes sense to me. There are people out there to whom money is no issue, who buy a season ticket just to be guaranteed a ticket to 4-5 big games. Quite right that the fan who would attend all 19 games is given priority.

14 is maybe setting the bar high though unless you can give you ticket to a mate. You are potentially an illness, a holiday and a few work shifts that you can’t get off away from hitting that limit.

MWHIBBIES
28-08-2024, 05:50 PM
Makes sense to me. There are people out there to whom money is no issue, who buy a season ticket just to be guaranteed a ticket to 4-5 big games. Quite right that the fan who would attend all 19 games is given priority.

14 is maybe setting the bar high though unless you can give you ticket to a mate. You are potentially an illness, a holiday and a few work shifts that you can’t get off away from hitting that limit.

You can go to zero games, as long as you sell it on the exchange you're fine

brianmc
28-08-2024, 06:41 PM
You can go to zero games, as long as you sell it on the exchange you're fine

Correct.
It's almost like people replying to this thread haven't bothered to read the original post...

Is It On....
28-08-2024, 06:42 PM
Most clubs with big waiting lists, like Dortmund, Real Madrid, Hearts etc do similar.

That made me laugh out loud 😂

7Hero
28-08-2024, 07:28 PM
The big clubs could sell out the stadiums to season ticket holders but don't want to as they make much more from single day sales and corporate packages. Liverpool have less than 50% of the ground as season ticket


Whereas we don't allow tourists / anybody not on the database to buy a ticket, which i think is a total mistake..

Pete70
28-08-2024, 07:38 PM
Whereas we don't allow tourists / anybody not on the database to buy a ticket, which i think is a total mistake..

That only applies to cat A games does it not?

heidtheba
28-08-2024, 07:54 PM
A slight tangent here, if I may. Do these clubs do anything to prioritise locals? My lives-near-to-Liverpool friend has a son and I'd love to take him to see Liverpool, but it seems like that's just not happening. Is there anything that these big clubs can do to ensure that their local area is well represented in those fans who attend? I know it might not even need ot be a 'thing' for the club's finances - money from anywhere is money to use and is no different from money from locals - but it seems to me that the local fans are the lifeblood of any club in the long-term.
Thoughts? Apologies for going off the original topic.

ian cruise
28-08-2024, 09:32 PM
Whereas we don't allow tourists / anybody not on the database to buy a ticket, which i think is a total mistake..

Anyone can get a ticket for a game bar those against Rangers, Celtic and Hearts.

Just_Jimmy
29-08-2024, 02:08 AM
Nit sure if it’s still the case but Man Utd use to force their season ticket holders to purchase tickets for cup games or their season ticket would be suspended from attending the next league fixture.Just the FA Cup. When I had mine it was Europe and the FA, league Cup was optional.

I'm of the opinion the clubs can get ****ed. Anyone buying a season pays upfront so if they go they go, the clubs fleece fans as is. They shouldn't be selling the seat twice under duress.

If the ST holder gets the full cost of that game back, then fine. Otherwise, nah.

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FilipinoHibs
29-08-2024, 04:45 AM
Arsenal haveca similar scheme. If your season ticket is unused for a certain number of games in a season, it will not be renewed. There is a 10 year waiting list for season tickets at the Emriates.

Stairway 2 7
29-08-2024, 05:26 AM
Just the FA Cup. When I had mine it was Europe and the FA, league Cup was optional.

I'm of the opinion the clubs can get ****ed. Anyone buying a season pays upfront so if they go they go, the clubs fleece fans as is. They shouldn't be selling the seat twice under duress.

If the ST holder gets the full cost of that game back, then fine. Otherwise, nah.

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You do get the cost of the game back if the ticket sells or you can give it to charity. The clubs want full stadiums which is fair enough

DH1875
29-08-2024, 07:31 AM
Anyone can get a ticket for a game bar those against Rangers, Celtic and Hearts.

We've been classing Aberdeen as a Cat A game as well recently for some reason. That's 4 out of the 11 teams that will come to Easter Rd where you can't just buy a ticket.

Pretty Boy
29-08-2024, 09:12 AM
A slight tangent here, if I may. Do these clubs do anything to prioritise locals? My lives-near-to-Liverpool friend has a son and I'd love to take him to see Liverpool, but it seems like that's just not happening. Is there anything that these big clubs can do to ensure that their local area is well represented in those fans who attend? I know it might not even need ot be a 'thing' for the club's finances - money from anywhere is money to use and is no different from money from locals - but it seems to me that the local fans are the lifeblood of any club in the long-term.
Thoughts? Apologies for going off the original topic.

I'm not sure if it is still the case but fairly recently Liverpool had the lowest percentage of ST holders located with 7 miles of their stadium with only 49%. Man Utd were second worst with 53%.Brentford were best with 83% and Newcastle had 82%. By Comparison to their neighbours Man City and Everton were 66% and 78% respectively.

If anything I'd imagine it will be getting worse rather than better.

Bishop Hibee
29-08-2024, 10:27 AM
Access to tickets can be a strange thing. I’m going to Liverpool v Fulham in December free of charge (I’d rather be at Hibs v Ross County but family duties). The guy who got us the tickets gets 4 free ones for every match when he wants them as he’s worked in some capacity, no idea what, for the club for years. It’s not what you know….

hibbybob
29-08-2024, 12:46 PM
We have season tickets but can’t attend the majority of games as we live abroad for much of the football season.
We see buying season tickets as a donation and supporting our club and are happy with that.
We do try to give our tickets away but only to people who wouldn’t go otherwise as to give them to somebody who would normally pay defeats the purpose of us “donating”.
Sadly, in the last couple of seasons even giving our tickets away free of charge has proved difficult for all but the bigger games and our seats are often empty.
Having e-tickets will make it more difficult to pass tickets on.
I think we’re a long way off having the issues Man City have!