Martin Boyle

[MWHIBBIES]

Discuss

[JohnM1875]

Good assist but other than that offered absolutely zero. Needs dropped for me.

[CMac1988]

His main attribute was his pace. It's gone. If there's still a chance he wants to go to Australia then I'd let him go.

[LunasBoots]

Been off it for over a year, the driving runs he used to make don't materialise very much anymore, the injuries he suffered undoubtedly have played a part in him losing that yard of pace.

[Callum_62]

Brilliant teeth to be fair

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[Willis1875]

His main attribute was his pace. It's gone. If there's still a chance he wants to go to Australia then I'd let him go.

He did until the A-League went into a bit of financial turmoil,not likely to happen now

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Offer him the captaincy, see if it improves his performances.

[Hiber-nation]

Looks done. Hardly got a touch.

[Scottie]

Bad hairdo & that stookie slows him down immensely. Looks disinterested now a days.

[JimBHibees]

Thought he looked livelier today fair to say the service he got wasn’t great

[Blaster]

Maybe we just need to judge all our players after 8-9 league games. Two games against Celtic is very difficult to say too much.

So far he’s been quieter than we all hoped but not writing him off yet

[JohnM1875]

Bad hairdo & that stookie slows him down immensely. Looks disinterested now a days.

Come on, that's unfair now! Hairdo is 10x better than it was when he first joined, thicker too haha.

[hibsbollah]

His main attribute was his pace. It's gone. If there's still a chance he wants to go to Australia then I'd let him go.

:agree: This is it. Father time has caught up with him. His pace made him impossible to deal with when he was on form, now he barely looks like a first choice player, he was ineffective even against Peterhead far less Celtic.

[The Modfather]

Terrible value for money second time around. Get Bowie up to speed ASAP, or play Rudi on the right and give him the minutes needed to develop. Boyle is a great servant, but little more than an impact sub now IMO.

[Tambo]

Either let him go or a spell on the bench for me, Bowie could play wide right if needed.

[Nicho87]

Prob getting a contract extension by this board

Do little, get rewarded

[CMac1988]

He did until the A-League went into a bit of financial turmoil,not likely to happen now

Do we need to get a fee for him? He's one of if not the highest paid players at the club and currently offers next to nothing. If he can't show he can compete at this level and use his experience to make up for his loss of pace then I'm not sure what he offers. He needs to up his game and show a hell of a lot more than he currently is to justify his wage. I'm not sure if he can.

[dcm89]

Great servant to the club, time to let go


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[Smartie]

Whilst he was quiet and didn't has best game in a Hibs shirt, as long as he was on the pitch I still just felt that he was someone who had the potential to cause them problems, even if it didn't transpire.

It's not been a brilliant start to the season for him but I still get the feeling that if we're going to achieve anything this season, it's going to need a contribution from Boyle like the Boyle of old. Whether that's still there or not, I share the doubts of others.

In fairness to him - when he arrived, he was a fast, raw, unpredictable little oik with a questionable end product. The cross for the goal was of a very high standard and he should be chuffed with it.

[Northernhibee]

He’s gone from being the sort of character you want in your team to the opposite. I don’t see drive, determination, or anything in him now.

[McD]

He spoke over the summer of taking on more of a leadership role, but it looks the opposite. The cheeky chappy stuff has disappeared, he rarely seems to leave a guy behind with his pace, in fact he hardly seems to take a man on anymore. He’s never geeing anyone up, or giving any guidance to younger players, or even saying much at all. Just seems switched off.

Great cross today from the free kick, but his delivery at set pieces isn’t great in general.

[Bronson]

3 ACLs will catch up with you. He is finished.

[LaMotta]

I think he can still make a decent contribution to us this season.

He missed that great chance against St Mirren which was a poor finish, but that proved he still has a level of pace to get away from defenders. Def not playing well just now and I understand the concerns, but I have a feeling things will get better for him this season.

Whatever way it goes for him he deserves respect from the Hibs support though - he has been an absolutely brilliant player for us over a nine or ten year period and I hope people remember that.

[jeffers]

I think he can still make a decent contribution to us this season.

He missed that great chance against St Mirren which was a poor finish, but that proved he still has a level of pace to get away from defenders. Def not playing well just now and I understand the concerns, but I have a feeling things will get better for him this season.

Whatever way it goes for him he deserves respect from the Hibs support though - he has been an absolutely brilliant player for us over a nine or ten year period and I hope people remember that.

I’m not giving up on him yet. He’s not started off the season well, he’s not alone in that.

[gbhibby]

Needs dropped should be used as an impact sub till he gets a bit of form back.

[LaMotta]

I’m not giving up on him yet. He’s not started off the season well, he’s not alone in that.

:agree:

He also has 6 goal contributions (yes I know mainly in the LC) , ahead of anyone else in that respect.

[B.H.F.C]

He still has a place in the squad and will still contribute over the course of the season. But he’s not the player he was and shouldn’t be first name on the team sheet by a long way.

[allmodcons]

He’s a good player having a tough spell.

Laughable how he’s being written off because of a bad miss versus St Mirren and two games against a Celtic team that are miles ahead of any other club in the SPL.

He will come good for us again.

[Pretty Boy]

If he wasn't Martin Boyle then the knives would be out for him.

Obviously he has earned that element of goodwill but it won't be indefinite. He can't rely solely on his pace now so he either needs to get smarter and adapt his game or accept his time at this level is done.

It isn't off the back of 3 games either. There were a lot of people starting to question his contribution part way through last season. It's not his fault in a lot of ways. He has had 3 serious injuries, any of which could have been a career ender, it's mad to think he would retain the same explosiveness after that.

[Unseen work]

He just goes through games not really doing much at all

Mckirdy would probably be more of a threat

[supermcginn]

Pace is gone, he's finished.

[K-Zazu]

Wage thief.

[hibsbollah]

He’s a good player having a tough spell.

Laughable how he’s being written off because of a bad miss versus St Mirren and two games against a Celtic team that are miles ahead of any other club in the SPL.

He will come good for us again.

Ive been vocal elsewhere about supporting players as much as possible so cant be too hard. However he’s had a good unbroken run in the team, this season 7 appearances 1 goal against Elgin and a lot of subpar performances against lower league opponents too. And aside from a brace against Motherwell he didnt too much at the end of last season either. Since his return as a sub for Youan against Rangers hes been an ever present, maybe a spell working with coaches might help.

[flash]

Reckon he will score next Saturday. Far from finished.

[MWHIBBIES]

Damn. Some horrid things being said. Not my intention when starting the thread. Any actual contributions of things he's doing badly, what he can change etc rather than abuse like wage thief?

Don't think he is finished tbh. He was always prone to periods like this.

[BoomtownHibees]

Wage thief.

Steady

[JohnM1875]

Reckon he will score next Saturday. Far from finished.

3 goals and 3 assists so far this season and even what can be described as a poor season last year he still managed 11 goals and 4 assists.

Don't know what it is with him just now though, maybe it's just other teams are aware of what he can offer so double up.

[LaMotta]

Ive been vocal elsewhere about supporting players as much as possible so cant be too hard. However he’s had a good unbroken run in the team, this season 7 appearances 1 goal against Elgin and a lot of subpar performances against lower league opponents too. And aside from a brace against Motherwell he didnt too much at the end of last season either. Since his return as a sub for Youan against Rangers hes been an ever present, maybe a spell working with coaches might help.


That's not right - Boyle has three goals and three assists this season, including a MOTM performance v Queens Park.

[Not In The Know]

The club need to have a serious word with him.

The wages he’s on do not justify his position as a “senior” player.

[hibsbollah]

That's not right - Boyle has three goals and three assists this season, including a MOTM performance v Queens Park.

2 of those were the friendlies against PAOK amd queens park, not the seven competitive games we played.

[BoomtownHibees]

2 of those were the friendlies against PAOK amd queens park, not the seven competitive games we played.

Queens Park was competitive surely?

[JohnM1875]

2 of those were the friendlies against PAOK amd queens park, not the seven competitive games we played.

Nope, three goals and three assists in the League Cup.

[Waxy]

The celtic games are over.
Clean slate starting now for everyone for me.

[LaMotta]

2 of those were the friendlies against PAOK amd queens park, not the secen competitive games we played.

Eh? :confused:

They were all competitive goals and assists. The Queens Park Game was in the League Cup and he scored twice. He scored v Elgin too. And in fact he actually has 4 assists now following today, so all in all 7 goal contributions from 7 appearances. Bit strange that you have been valiantly defending other players so much, yet having a go at Boyle using stats that aren't even close to being right.

[Stuart93]

The celtic games are over.
Clean slate starting now for everyone for me.

Hopefully the manager has a different opinion

Get the non performers to **** out the team

[B.H.F.C]

2 of those were the friendlies against PAOK amd queens park, not the seven competitive games we played.

3 goals and 4 assists in the League Cup when you include today.

Plus a couple of contributions in the friendlies you mention.

He’s not the player he was but he’s not quite finished as some suggest.

[Winston Ingram]

Boyle should only start if he’s playing on the right of a 433. He’s bang average playing anywhere else

[hibsbollah]

Eh? :confused:

They were all competitive goals and assists. The Queens Park Game was in the League Cup and he scored twice. He scored v Elgin too. And in fact he actually has 4 assists now following today, so all in all 7 goal contributions from 7 appearances. Bit strange that you have been valiantly defending other players so much, yet having a go at Boyle using stats that aren't even close to being right.

Apologies for the mistake, but i dont think theres a need for the dig, especially as i pointed out i wasnt having a go at him. Its hardly a novel take that hes been poor of late.

[IberianHibernian]

When we first signed him he was probably one of our best signings of this century even though even then I thought he was best as a sub against tiring defenders . When we last signed him 95% of folk here were celebrating his return though I was in the 5% who thought it was going to be a very expensive gamble and always thought club signed him more to keep fans happy at a time when they were beginning to get flak and also to be fair because we wouldn`t normally have had the chance to sign such a good player . Injuries have obviously not helped . In glimpses he still looked last season so hopefully he can still make an impact this season maybe more as a sub . If not , I doubt other clubs will want to pay his present salary and his signing will have been as bad as others of recent years which have led to criticism of recruitment .

[Billy Whizz]

Not making any judgement on his performance today, but it’s the 1st time I’ve heard the fans around me giving him harsh criticism, as they did today around me

[Real Emerald]

Unfortunately I think he’s finished, nothing like the player that terrified every defence in the league. Hopefully he will get his mojo back but I’m not holding out much hope of that. 🥲

[LaMotta]

Apologies for the mistake, but i dont think theres a need for the dig, especially as i pointed out i wasnt having a go at him. Its hardly a novel take that hes been poor of late.

Fair enough sorry bud, just feel that there is a lot of OTT criticism of him (not from you) and those stats are only going to fuel that. He hasn't been great last three games for sure, but would say he's been nowhere near as poor overall as being suggested by some. His high wages aren't helping his cause, nor are the previous high standards he has set himself - I think they are two of the main reasons a lot of people are quite hard on him. If he isnt performing in a months time after games against closer rivals then he def deserves to drop out.

[hibsbollah]

Fair enough sorry bud, just feel that there is a lot of OTT criticism of him (not from you) and those stats are only going to fuel that. He hasn't been great last three games for sure, but would say he's been nowhere near as poor overall as being suggested by some. His high wages aren't helping his cause, nor are the previous high standards he has set himself - I think they are two of the main reasons a lot of people are quite hard on him. If he isnt performing in a months time after games against closer rivals then he def deserves to drop out.

:agree: Yeah i agree with that, and just have a feeling that he needs to evolve his game with the help of good coaches, maybe learn to play with his back to goal, even bulk up a bit. Lots of strikers changed their game when age and injury became a factor, Kenny Miller springs to mind.

[McD]

:agree: Yeah i agree with that, and just have a feeling that he needs to evolve his game with the help of good coaches, maybe learn to play with his back to goal, even bulk up a bit. Lots of strikers changed their game when age and injury became a factor, Kenny Miller springs to mind.


I agree, I think defenders have worked him out a bit, even though he goes inside or outside, they know he’s unlikely to pass the ball. If he can add little 1-2s with forwards or midfielders whilst he spins away, he could be more effective again.
Alternatively, if playing him through the middle, I’d be encouraging him to stand on the last man, he’s still quick enough to create a gap and force the defender into a decision.


I said earlier i thought he seemed switched off, it looks a bit like he’s lost some of his passion for the game, a wee bit down. Perhaps he’s needing someone to give him a wee boost

[wookie70]

I think he is still a very impactful player at this level when he is on it. The problem is he has been miles away from that against teams in our league so far this season. He isn't working as hard as he needs to and seems to have lost his spark and confidence. I hope he gets back playing to the level we know he can but at the moment he should really be on the bench given his performance levels.

[LaMotta]

:agree: Yeah i agree with that, and just have a feeling that he needs to evolve his game with the help of good coaches, maybe learn to play with his back to goal, even bulk up a bit. Lots of strikers changed their game when age and injury became a factor, Kenny Miller springs to mind.

:aok:

[B.H.F.C]

I think he is still a very impactful player at this level when he is on it. The problem is he has been miles away from that against teams in our league so far this season. He isn't working as hard as he needs to and seems to have lost his spark and confidence. I hope he gets back playing to the level we know he can but at the moment he should really be on the bench given his performance levels.

I think that’s a fairer summary. It’s pretty obvious that a player of his age, who relied on pace a lot, who has had the number of serious injuries he has is going to decline a bit.

But there is a bit of middle ground between not being the player he was and being finished.

His days as guaranteed starter and main man are gone, but he can still make an impact and chip in with goals and assists over the course of the season IMO.

[Hermit Crab]

Discuss


Gash, had his day. Time to go.

[shamo9]

I'll always respect Boyle for his contribution to Hibs. One of my favourite players and given me some fantastic memories over the last 10 years. In my book he's earned a bit of patience and perseverence.

At the moment it feels like this should probably be his last season at Hibs. If that is to be case I hope he's able to leave with dignity and the support doesn't turn on him.

Fingers crossed Boyle has a few more magic moments in him before it's all said and done, for all concerned.

[Smartie]

I agree, I think defenders have worked him out a bit, even though he goes inside or outside, they know he’s unlikely to pass the ball. If he can add little 1-2s with forwards or midfielders whilst he spins away, he could be more effective again.
Alternatively, if playing him through the middle, I’d be encouraging him to stand on the last man, he’s still quick enough to create a gap and force the defender into a decision.


I said earlier i thought he seemed switched off, it looks a bit like he’s lost some of his passion for the game, a wee bit down. Perhaps he’s needing someone to give him a wee boost

I don’t like saying this about someone I’ve previously had a lot of time for but nowadays he plays more like the player who has the teeth, the hair and the car rather than the one who wants the teeth, the hair and the car.

When I watched the Dundee derby the other week I saw a lot of a young Marin Boyle in the young United winger Miller Thomson. Rapid, unpredictable, didn’t always make the right decisions but his pace over a few yards made him an absolute nightmare to play against and he gave the Dundee defence a torrid time. It did sort of bring it home to me that Martin sadly isn’t that guy any more.

[FilipinoHibs]

He just slowed down in everything he does from taking a touch, working out is move past players and his speed. It's an age thing and particularly affects high impact forwards. Think he is done sadly.

[Smartie]

I think that’s a fairer summary. It’s pretty obvious that a player of his age, who relied on pace a lot, who has had the number of serious injuries he has is going to decline a bit.

But there is a bit of middle ground between not being the player he was and being finished.

His days as guaranteed starter and main man are gone, but he can still make an impact and chip in with goals and assists over the course of the season IMO.

I agree with your point about that middle ground, and I think there are things that can be done to slow his natural progression to Antti Niemi territory.

[JimBHibees]

I think he can still make a decent contribution to us this season.

He missed that great chance against St Mirren which was a poor finish, but that proved he still has a level of pace to get away from defenders. Def not playing well just now and I understand the concerns, but I have a feeling things will get better for him this season.

Whatever way it goes for him he deserves respect from the Hibs support though - he has been an absolutely brilliant player for us over a nine or ten year period and I hope people remember that.

Good post

[Hibs3-2]

Whens that cast due to come off, what did he actually do? Cant be helping him running with that thing on

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I'll always respect Boyle for his contribution to Hibs. One of my favourite players and given me some fantastic memories over the last 10 years. In my book he's earned a bit of patience and perseverence.

At the moment it feels like this should probably be his last season at Hibs. If that is to be case I hope he's able to leave with dignity and the support doesn't turn on him.

Fingers crossed Boyle has a few more magic moments in him before it's all said and done, for all concerned.

Perfectly reasonable shout.

[hibee-boys]

I thought he looked back to his old self in the cup games but he’s hardly featured the last 3 games other than missing a good chance against St Mirren. He’s got enough credit in the bank to be given a chance to shine against other league teams but he should no longer be an automatic pick now.

[Forza Fred]

Every player slows down as he gets older.

Martin still has a lot to offer, either starting or off the bench.

If it’s off the bench, so be it, but he’s provided us all with some outstanding memories when he does eventually leave.

[KeithWright9]

Finished

[Unseen work]

Think we’re at the stage that when everyone is fit he doesn’t make the starting team

Depends on Youan staying to a certain degree. But if Youan does leave it will probably be between Boyle and Hoilett - Hoilett edges it for me as he doesn’t rely on just pace

Bowie……………………….Youan/Hoilett

…………………Myk…

Then you’ve also got both Caddens and Rudi able to play out wide.

[Since452]

Said it last week but he seems undroppable

[Nicho87]

Said it last week but he seems undroppable

Like Campbell, Newell and Obita

[nickwhibs]

He’s not as effective as he was but still a good player at our level. Perhaps his confidence is a bit low (like others in the team) but certainly not writing him off and think he’ll contribute plenty of goals/assists this season. That said it doesn’t mean he is undroppable and once we have everyone up to speed he may well be starting the odd game on the bench,

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Remind me of who it was that put the ball on myko’s heed for the goal….

Boyle is a top player for us. End of.

[Trinity Hibee]

Even though it seems he has lost some pace, Boyle should still be able to impact games in SPFL.

[blackpoolhibs]

Even though it seems he has lost some pace, Boyle should still be able to impact games in SPFL.

He's never been the best footballer although he did improve from the raw lad we first signed all those years ago.

His main attribute was his pace, and through injuries and age, he's not as quick as he used to be.

Being replaced comes to every player, and the trick is to replace them before it's too late, i think now is the time, albeit he could be a decent squad player to come off the bench.

Dont think having our top earner on the bench is great, i wonder if a deal might be made should he want to go to Australia?

[MWHIBBIES]

Remind me of who it was that put the ball on myko’s heed for the goal….

Boyle is a top player for us. End of.

Come on. An assist sure but that goal was 99% Myko. A very difficult header.

[Trinity Hibee]

He's never been the best footballer although he did improve from the raw lad we first signed all those years ago.

His main attribute was his pace, and through injuries and age, he's not as quick as he used to be.

Being replaced comes to every player, and the trick is to replace them before it's too late, i think now is the time, albeit he could be a decent squad player to come off the bench.

Dont think having our top earner on the bench is great, i wonder if a deal might be made should he want to go to Australia?

If he was to leave I wouldn’t be hurting as much as it did when he left for Saudi. I still think he has some quality with crosses/shooting although realise we haven’t seen it recently. I don’t think those attributes leave you.

The next question is are we getting value for money given the wages he is on and at the moment I think that answer is no.

[WestStandWillie]

The bad injuries have taken their toll. Hasn't got the zip he once had but still has enough quality to be a squad player.

[sauzee1989]

Boyle when he first arrived was just a greyhound and mostly played as a striker which he didn’t have the understanding for. Lennon then got the best out of him often not asking him to do much in terms of tracking back. Now since coming back he’s lost his pace since injury doesn’t work hard for a team that badly needs help and generally his final ball and decision making is poor. We should be flogging him to Aussie clubs now.

[GreenCastle]

We need Boyle on the right getting the ball 1v1 or in behind.

Last couple games he had to do a lot of work without the ball.

We do need our wingers to contribute though as right now they aren’t doing much in open play.

[J-C]

Boyle's main threat was his pace, not a lot of tricks and he also knew how to score, his goal return is very good for a wide player. Now his main threat has gone he's struggling to make an impact, he's on very high wages for Hibs and ATM not justifying them, he'll still contribute but shouldn't be seen as a 1st choice pick, also his mind might be on that plane to Australia to see out the rest of his career.

[LaMotta]

Boyle when he first arrived was just a greyhound and mostly played as a striker which he didn’t have the understanding for. Lennon then got the best out of him often not asking him to do much in terms of tracking back. Now since coming back he’s lost his pace since injury doesn’t work hard for a team that badly needs help and generally his final ball and decision making is poor. We should be flogging him to Aussie clubs now.

I would question most of what you've written here.

In his early days he often played on the wing for us - he was tremendous defensively in the derby for example playing out wide right at ER in his first season when we won 2-0. I also think he proved on a lot of occasions that he can be good playing as a striker over the seasons (although better out wide).

I also think that whilst he may not be playing brilliantly, he does work hard, saying otherwise is quite disrespectful. In terms of his final ball and decision making he has 7 goal contributions this season already - no one else is close to that.:cb

[Lago]

Not so much his that's lost but that initial explosive acceleration.

[hibee-boys]

I think Martin can still play a part, even if coming off the bench for certain games, this season. A lot will depend on what is happening with Youan this season. However, if Boyle’s rumoured wages are true he’ll certainly need to be looking elsewhere for anywhere near the same deal from next season.

[overdrive]

What is actually wrong with his arm? I know he had lost some pace last season so it isn't purely down to that but the protection he's wearing on his arm can't be helping.

[He's here!]

When we first signed him he was probably one of our best signings of this century even though even then I thought he was best as a sub against tiring defenders . When we last signed him 95% of folk here were celebrating his return though I was in the 5% who thought it was going to be a very expensive gamble and always thought club signed him more to keep fans happy at a time when they were beginning to get flak and also to be fair because we wouldn`t normally have had the chance to sign such a good player . Injuries have obviously not helped . In glimpses he still looked last season so hopefully he can still make an impact this season maybe more as a sub . If not , I doubt other clubs will want to pay his present salary and his signing will have been as bad as others of recent years which have led to criticism of recruitment .

It wasn't a gamble re-signing him. It was a no-brainer. He's arguably been our best signing of the last decade if you weigh up his overall contribution. What went wrong was him picking up another long-term injury just a few weeks later which also denied him a World Cup place. A guy whose greatest asset is his speed is always going to find a series of leg injuries harder and harder to recover from. Some of the comments on here are disrespectful in the extreme. There have been times when he's been akin to a one-man team for us.

[Scouse Hibee]

Surely Gray has noticed?

[Allant1981]

He has lost pace but still pretty quick, if we are going to play boyle then it needs to be quick tempo and balls over the top, don't think our style has suited his game in recent times

[allezsauzee]

While he's clearly not the force he was a couple of years ago, I find it laughable that people think he isn't good enough for this Hibs team, he's still one of our most talented players. What I would say is that if he's on a chunky wage then I could see the argument for getting him off the wage bill. I have no insight on what his salary is though.

[ancient hibee]

While he's clearly not the force he was a couple of years ago, I find it laughable that people think he isn't good enough for this Hibs team, he's still one of our most talented players. What I would say is that if he's on a chunky wage then I could see the argument for getting him off the wage bill. I have no insight on what his salary is though.

I think that the fact that the player with the most goal contributions for us this season gets so much flak on here shows how little many posters know about football.

[dp00]

What’s he actually done to his arm ? Seems like he has been in that cast for ages ?

He just doesn’t seem focused or have his head in the game ? Can only assume has other stuff going on


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[JimBHibees]

Come on. An assist sure but that goal was 99% Myko. A very difficult header.

Fabulous header

[Smartie]

Come on. An assist sure but that goal was 99% Myko. A very difficult header.

It was definitely a fantastic header and the higher proportion of the praise should go to Myko but I do think Boyle deserves great credit for the cross. How often do we see deliveries that lead to a chance like that, ones that aren’t over or under hit?

Myko will have been thrilled with that sort of delivery, even if he still had an awful lot still to do, and he’d be happy to be receiving service like that much more regularly.

[SeanWilson]

While he's clearly not the force he was a couple of years ago, I find it laughable that people think he isn't good enough for this Hibs team, he's still one of our most talented players. What I would say is that if he's on a chunky wage then I could see the argument for getting him off the wage bill. I have no insight on what his salary is though.

It isn’t laughable. He’s a limited technical footballer who used to have pace. He’s no longer got pace and is a complete waste of a shirt. If every other player was at it, he’d get away with it but we’re off it everywhere and can’t carry him.

[MWHIBBIES]

It was definitely a fantastic header and the higher proportion of the praise should go to Myko but I do think Boyle deserves great credit for the cross. How often do we see deliveries that lead to a chance like that, ones that aren’t over or under hit?

Myko will have been thrilled with that sort of delivery, even if he still had an awful lot still to do, and he’d be happy to be receiving service like that much more regularly.

He would score that goal maybe 1 in 10 I think. Without any real stats to back it up, I'd say we create 1 better chance a game at least than that from crosses/set pieces. We've already scored at least 3 goals from corners this season and they were all much, much easier chances than Mykos.

I think it was a decent ball. Nothing more.

[LaMotta]

It isn’t laughable. He’s a limited technical footballer who used to have pace. He’s no longer got pace and is a complete waste of a shirt. If every other player was at it, he’d get away with it but we’re off it everywhere and can’t carry him.

:rolleyes:

[Since452]

Ivan Sproule was a speed merchant but when he lost his pace he changed his game and actually became a decent footballer. Boyle just tries the same things over and over and has been poor for a long time. If he didn't have the past he did with us he'd be getting it absolutely tight from the fans. Look at the stick Campbell etc get. Boyle contributes less.

[LaMotta]

Ivan Sproule was a speed merchant but when he lost his pace he changed his game and actually became a decent footballer. Boyle just tries the same things over and over and has been poor for a long time. If he didn't have the past he did with us he'd be getting it absolutely tight from the fans. Look at the stick Campbell etc get. Boyle contributes less.

Boyle is certainly getting it tight from a lot of fans these days!

Do you really think Boyle is contributing less than Campbell? 3 goals and 4 assists to 4 Campbell assists. Both haven't played well since the league started, but I feel if anything Boyle is getting as much if not more stick than others (Newell apart).

[B.H.F.C]

Boyle is certainly getting it tight from a lot of fans these days!

Do you really think Boyle is contributing less than Campbell? 3 goals and 4 assists to 4 Campbell assists. Both haven't played well since the league started, but I feel if anything Boyle is getting as much if not more stick than others (Newell apart).

I really can’t understand why some of the opinions are as extreme.

Said it already but there is a middle ground between not quite being the player he was and being finished.

Even last season, off the back of a cruciate injury and not playing in his best position a lot of the time he was in double figures for goals. I think he’ll get that again this year although I don’t think he should be an automatic starter any more.

[LaMotta]

I really can’t understand why some of the opinions are as extreme.

Said it already but there is a middle ground between not quite being the player he was and being finished.

Even last season, off the back of a cruciate injury and not playing in his best position a lot of the time he was in double figures for goals. I think he’ll get that again this year although I don’t think he should be an automatic starter any more.

Absolutely spot on - sometimes the extreme views on here are just tiring when that middle ground you talk about is way closer to the truth.

I think myths grow online quickly as well - for example a myth that Boyle has been crap since he returned or was poor last season. Up until xmas last year he was vital to us, outstanding in Luzern, brilliant assists games V Killie and Aberdeen in the league to win us games. Great assist v for Youan v Hearts to save the game. Things went downhill a bit for him and the team after that penalty miss v Hearts. I really think we should judge him over the next run of games. That will tell us more about where things stand for him.

[He's here!]

It isn’t laughable. He’s a limited technical footballer who used to have pace. He’s no longer got pace and is a complete waste of a shirt. If every other player was at it, he’d get away with it but we’re off it everywhere and can’t carry him.

Boyle has worked very hard on his game at Hibs. His finishing was a weakness when he arrived but he improved that hugely and has scored around 60 goals for us. He also established himself as an international footballer with a team that's done significantly better than Scotland over the last 20 years.

He's been a huge asset to us overall.

[JohnM1875]

Boyle has worked very hard on his game at Hibs. His finishing was a weakness when he arrived but he improved that hugely and has scored around 60 goals for us. He also established himself as an international footballer with a team that's done significantly better than Scotland over the last 20 years.

He's been a huge asset to us overall.

Couldn't agree more. Aye, he's lost that initial burst of pace he had but he's absolutely still quick!

Don't know what it is with him just now though, something just seems off. He used to smash shots, he had two great chances against St Mirren and both shots were so tame.

[Kato]

I really can’t understand why some of the opinions are as extreme.



You're on the internet, mate. Some people are incapable of nuance or a middle ground when throwing out their opinions. It's either black or white, with no backing down.



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[Forza Fred]

Boyle when he first arrived was just a greyhound and mostly played as a striker which he didn’t have the understanding for. Lennon then got the best out of him often not asking him to do much in terms of tracking back. Now since coming back he’s lost his pace since injury doesn’t work hard for a team that badly needs help and generally his final ball and decision making is poor. We should be flogging him to Aussie clubs now.

Your understanding of Australian Football is perhaps, understandably, not conducive with your last sentence.
The A League is skint, and some clubs are struggling to survive.

Can’t see there being a flurry of Oz clubs trying to outbid each other in the transfer market to acquire the services of a player now in his 30’s

[JohnM1875]

Your understanding of Australian Football is perhaps, understandably, not conducive with your last sentence.
The A League is skint, and some clubs are struggling to survive.

Can’t see there being a flurry of Oz clubs trying to outbid each other in the transfer market to acquire the services of a player now in his 30’s

How come the A-League is so skint? Could be completely wrong but don't think it's a league that's ever lived outwith it's means and spent money it doesn't have on things. Also seems to be more AU$mil+ signings coming out the league these days.

Is it just a case of it not being the national sport? Crowds seem pretty healthy though when I watch games.

[Forza Fred]

How come the A-League is so skint? Could be completely wrong but don't think it's a league that's ever lived outwith it's means and spent money it doesn't have on things. Also seems to be more AU$mil+ signings coming out the league these days.

Is it just a case of it not being the national sport? Crowds seem pretty healthy though when I watch games.

How long you got?

Oz football at league level has struggled to survive financially since the first national league was formed in 1977.

What has brought it to a head now has been the split of the A League a couple of years ago from the controlling body Football Federation Australia(FFA).
The APL( I guess the equivalent of the Scottish League in your money) thought it could look after it’s best interests on a stand alone basis, but have failed drastically.

The TV contract that they negotiated failed to meet its agreed targets in regard to viewers etc and was drastically cut back.

At the beginning clubs could expect upwards of $3m or $4m in tv revenue returned to help them fund operations, but the latest figure I think they are getting is less than $0.5m.

Fitba in Oz is miles behind, interest wise, Aussie Rules or Rugby League ..professional club football anyway.

Different story for the national teams…..but importantly their tv contracts are with the FFA, not the stand alone A League.

Yes, there are players sold for a couple of million dollars now and then…..and you are about to see last season’s player of the year, Josh Nisbet play against us for Ross Cty…..he cost them nowt btw..but that’s another story.

Talk at the moment is that the A League is turning into a glorified development League, whereby youth players will be in the line ups more and more as their salary demands are obviously less than established pros.

Pretty sure if you did a Google on ‘what problems does the A League have’ you would end up with a fair amount of fireside reading.

Aussie Rules and Rugby League dwarf fitba in terms of tv money, other income, media coverage, punter interest etc…..so it is very much 3rd on the tier of club sports.

[theonlywayisup]

I fancy Boyle to score against Dundee. He's had some poor performances lately, but he's not alone in doing so. He'll score on Saturday.

[CapitalGreen]

He would score that goal maybe 1 in 10 I think. Without any real stats to back it up, I'd say we create 1 better chance a game at least than that from crosses/set pieces. We've already scored at least 3 goals from corners this season and they were all much, much easier chances than Mykos.

I think it was a decent ball. Nothing more.

He should have just kicked the free kick straight out for a goal kick like Newell did the previous week and saved us the bother of thinking we might actually get something from the game.

[Donegal Hibby]

He should have just kicked the free kick straight out for a goal kick like Newell did the previous week and saved us the bother of thinking we might actually get something from the game.

Was raging at that one , don’t get many chances against them at the best of times and that free kick from Newell was brutal.

[theonlywayisup]

Was raging at that one , don’t get many chances against them at the best of times and that free kick from Newell was brutal.

Same here! Our best midfielder, but clearly not good enough IMO.

[MWHIBBIES]

He should have just kicked the free kick straight out for a goal kick like Newell did the previous week and saved us the bother of thinking we might actually get something from the game.

I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make with this. You'll need to spell it out please.

[A Hi-Bee]

I fancy Boyle to score against Dundee. He's had some poor performances lately, but he's not alone in doing so. He'll score on Saturday.

Boyle is still one of our best players, his form does tend to go up and down but he is still quality.

[Donegal Hibby]

Boyle is still one of our best players, his form does tend to go up and down but he is still quality.

Most wingers are a bit inconsistent at times , Boyle will still contribute plenty this season IMO .

[tonyrougier123]

Martin boyle is easily one of our best players, any suggestion of him leaving is just ridiculous. Our out ball, pace, drive ,balls into box wins free kicks and pens, scores goals . Aye let’s look for that type of player again.
Folk are unreal!

Mr Hibs for me.

[Stuart93]

Martin boyle is easily one of our best players, any suggestion of him leaving is just ridiculous. Our out ball, pace, drive ,balls into box wins free kicks and pens, scores goals . Aye let’s look for that type of player again.
Folk are unreal!

Mr Hibs for me.

You’re describing the Martin Boyle that left to go to Saudi though

Not the one we’ve had since

I think that’s most peoples point

I still wouldn’t look to move him on as he’s still capable

[Kato]

I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make with this. You'll need to spell it out please.It was a really good free-kick. Getting the ball to dip as it did from a deeper position rather than nearer the touchline shows pretty good skill.

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[tonyrougier123]

You’re describing the Martin Boyle that left to go to Saudi though

Not the one we’ve had since

I think that’s most peoples point

I still wouldn’t look to move him on as he’s still capable

Same player for me, despite opposition 4goals 3assits already this season. Miles in front of anyone else we have for both stats combined.

[Stuart93]

Same player for me, despite opposition 4goals 3assits already this season. Miles in front of anyone else we have for both stats combined.

He’s definitely not been the same player, it’s easy to see that despite what the stats say

[Paulie Walnuts]

I really can’t understand why some of the opinions are as extreme.

Said it already but there is a middle ground between not quite being the player he was and being finished.

Even last season, off the back of a cruciate injury and not playing in his best position a lot of the time he was in double figures for goals. I think he’ll get that again this year although I don’t think he should be an automatic starter any more.

:agree:

[tonyrougier123]

He’s definitely not been the same player, it’s easy to see that despite what the stats say

I find it hard to reason with your statement, in the games we are making things happen he’s leading the charge, in the games where we offer little as a team no one offers anything. So are we letting Boyle carry the can for the teams failure. To a degree what I see is a winger sometimes isolated from play for different reasons, I’ve rarely seen a full back comfortable with Boyle normally backed up,if we could use the ball better when Boyle drags players opposition away we’d still be capitalising from his wing play,but we have been far two weak for two-three seasons.

[ancient hibee]

I find it hard to reason with your statement, in the games we are making things happen he’s leading the charge, in the games where we offer little as a team no one offers anything. So are we letting Boyle carry the can for the teams failure. To a degree what I see is a winger sometimes isolated from play for different reasons, I’ve rarely seen a full back comfortable with Boyle normally backed up,if we could use the ball better when Boyle drags players opposition away we’d still be capitalising from his wing play,but we have been far two weak for two-three seasons.


:top marks

[Dashing Bob S]

I find it hard to reason with your statement, in the games we are making things happen he’s leading the charge, in the games where we offer little as a team no one offers anything. So are we letting Boyle carry the can for the teams failure. To a degree what I see is a winger sometimes isolated from play for different reasons, I’ve rarely seen a full back comfortable with Boyle normally backed up,if we could use the ball better when Boyle drags players opposition away we’d still be capitalising from his wing play,but we have been far two weak for two-three seasons.

Agreed. What sort of threat would we have without Boyle?

[Smartie]

I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make with this. You'll need to spell it out please.

Players get criticised when their set piece delivery isn't good enough.

When we get someone who provides an excellent delivery that leads to a goal, we should acknowledge that contribution.

Personally, I think that between Newell and Boyle we have the potential to have excellent set piece deliveries. Newell has deservedly taken pelters for a particularly poor one he put in a few weeks ago but before the season is out, I'd expect that between having Boyle and Newell hitting good balls into the box and the physical attributes of some of the players we've now got getting on the end of those crosses, we should expect to see a decent number of goals.

[allezsauzee]

It isn’t laughable. He’s a limited technical footballer who used to have pace. He’s no longer got pace and is a complete waste of a shirt. If every other player was at it, he’d get away with it but we’re off it everywhere and can’t carry him.

He's scored or assisted in 7 out of the 15 goals we have scored so far so not sure what it would take for him to be regarded as integral to the team. Not as quick as he was but that's not a reason to bin our biggest goal contributor (by some margin). Given that we have so many sub standard players in the squad, Boyle is an extremely odd target for criticism.

[flash]

It isn’t laughable. He’s a limited technical footballer who used to have pace. He’s no longer got pace and is a complete waste of a shirt. If every other player was at it, he’d get away with it but we’re off it everywhere and can’t carry him.

Wow what was that old saying about opinions?

[LaMotta]

Not quite finished yet eh?

[Scottie]

Not quite finished yet eh?
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally :wink:

[LaMotta]

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally :wink:

He's found more nuts than anyone else in the squad so far this season.

[JohnM1875]

He's found more nuts than anyone else in the squad so far this season.

Got most goals and assists I think right?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/dacb1d10-ec48-4b70-9074-fb2d8683d7c4

this place some times…

[theonlywayisup]

Well done Martin Boyle! Thought he played well yesterday and showed he'll still be a key player for Hibs this season.

[B.H.F.C]

He's found more nuts than anyone else in the squad so far this season.

4 goals in 4 assists in 8 games isn’t bad for someone who is finished.

Still well capable of contributing over the course of the season, even if he’s not quite what he was.

[LaMotta]

Got most goals and assists I think right?


4 goals in 4 assists in 8 games isn’t bad for someone who is finished.

Still well capable of contributing over the course of the season, even if he’s not quite what he was.


Well done Martin Boyle! Thought he played well yesterday and showed he'll still be a key player for Hibs this season.

:agree::agree::agree:

[JimBHibees]

Bit more like himself on Saturday good to see. Hopefully gives a wee boost of confidence

[Houston7]

https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/dacb1d10-ec48-4b70-9074-fb2d8683d7c4

this place some times…


Bit more like himself on Saturday good to see. Hopefully gives a wee boost of confidence

He was more like himself, but when going back after scoring with his terrific free kick, he looked miserable. There was or is something he is not happy with.

[andrew70]

He was more like himself, but when going back after scoring with his terrific free kick, he looked miserable. There was or is something he is not happy with.

I think he never celebrated because we were very lucky to still be in the game at that point, he knows it needed to be better.

[ruthven_raiders]

I think he never celebrated because we were very lucky to still be in the game at that point, he knows it needed to be better.

He certainly celebrated with the second goal, first one he knows the player not producing.

[Hibernian Verse]

I think he never celebrated because we were very lucky to still be in the game at that point, he knows it needed to be better.

I assumed it was because Dundee gave him his first professional break in football.

[SHODAN]

He was more like himself, but when going back after scoring with his terrific free kick, he looked miserable. There was or is something he is not happy with.

No celebration because we were ***** up until that point and he's an ex Dundee player.

[Smartie]

I did notice, and was surprised tbh, that the team's celebrations were a bit muted after Boyle's goal.

It was a good goal and a big goal, going into half time.

You sometimes see a young player get mobbed when he scores, certainly the celebrations for Bowie's goal were a bit more noticeable.

I was just surprised that the players weren't more bothered for Boyle's goal.

[He's here!]

I did notice, and was surprised tbh, that the team's celebrations were a bit muted after Boyle's goal.

It was a good goal and a big goal, going into half time.

You sometimes see a young player get mobbed when he scores, certainly the celebrations for Bowie's goal were a bit more noticeable.

I was just surprised that the players weren't more bothered for Boyle's goal.

Players aren't oblivious to the disquiet in the stands/online etc. We could easily have been 2-0 down by that stage in a game we really had to show up for after a dismal start to the season. Grabbing a barely-deserved equaliser out of the blue just before the break wasn't something I'd expect a player to go wild over. Bowie's goal came when we were finally looking like a team which knew what it was doing and merited more of a celebration.

[B.H.F.C]

He was more like himself, but when going back after scoring with his terrific free kick, he looked miserable. There was or is something he is not happy with.

I thought that was a positive thing. He realised we were pish, he realised folk weren’t happy and wanted to get the game going again. Just showed a bit awareness for me.

[JimBHibees]

He was more like himself, but when going back after scoring with his terrific free kick, he looked miserable. There was or is something he is not happy with.

Maybe not happy some of the criticism he has got. Hopefully kick starts his form

[Forza Fred]

We'll find out on Friday if he is in the squad for the Oz World Cup campaign which kicks off against Bahrain in the international break.

A nice wee trip to the Gold Coast may be just what he needs to lift his spirits....although I suspect Arnie will use this game to blood some of the younger aspiring brigade.

[greenlex]

He was more like himself, but when going back after scoring with his terrific free kick, he looked miserable. There was or is something he is not happy with.
It wasn’t terrific but a deflected effort. Maybe thought it was ****.

[HoboHarry]

https://www.hibs.net/blob:https://www.hibs.net/dacb1d10-ec48-4b70-9074-fb2d8683d7c4

this place a lot of the time…
ftfy

[Cooshed Kid]

It wasn’t terrific but a deflected effort. Maybe thought it was ****.

You're right, it seemed to flick off a Dundee shoulder but the margins with these close-in free kicks can be incredibly small so it was a great effort and deserved a goal. I'm always curious, though, when the ref paces out "10 yards" how far is it really? I suspect that most of the time it's a lot shorter. Maybe not when the free kick's for the Uglies.

[Hibees1973]

What is wrong with him.

Gray needs to drop him as he is way off it.

[Keith_M]

What is wrong with him.

Gray needs to drop him as he is way off it.


Sadly have to agree.

[SaulGoodman]

Give him his move to Australia that he so badly wants.

[Allant1981]

What is wrong with him.

Gray needs to drop him as he is way off it.

He was poor but that pitch definitely doesn't suit his style of play, made no sense starting him today imo

[MWHIBBIES]

He is the inconsistent player he has always been. Nothing has changed imo.

[Unseen work]

It looks to me like he knows he’s lost his pace to go by players so he’s now trying different things and it’s not working

And that’s on the rare occasion he gets on the ball

Rudi for example was poor today, Boyle was annonymous. I’d much prefer someone to be involved but poor

[Paul1642]

He is the inconsistent player he has always been. Nothing has changed imo.

Everything has changed. His better games aren’t as good as they used to be and his worst games have gotten worse. I think his days of being a guaranteed starter will come to an end one Youan and Hoilett are fit.

[LaMotta]

Another assist today!:greengrin

[The Modfather]

He is the inconsistent player he has always been. Nothing has changed imo.

He was a talisman when he left. Now he’s an “on his day” squad player IMO.

[Hiber-nation]

Another assist today!:greengrin

Aye that's what I was thinking! Never rely on stats, he was dreadful. Him and Rudi could easily have been off at HT.

[Paul1642]

Aye that's what I was thinking! Never rely on stats, he was dreadful. Him and Rudi could easily have been off at HT.

Not all assists are equal. Today’s one was a simple shot pass to a player who had no right to score from where he did.

[CapitalGreen]

Someone needs to get the salt and pepper out and teach him the offside rule.

[LaMotta]

Lost his pace, finished, etc etc:wink:

[Stairway 2 7]

Lost his pace, finished, etc etc:wink:

What a season already 👏

[makaveli1875]

Unlucky Boyle.

[1875Sean]

What a season already 👏

All with a fractured hand

[Viva_Palmeiras]

All with a fractured hand

and in a fair bit of pain playing for the cause - sauce: Marvin B.

[Since452]

Great option to have from the bench

[Stairway 2 7]

Great option to have from the bench

Glad he started against Dundee and Kilie giving us a goal and an assist unlike others who gave us nothing. 5 goals 5 assists and the season has just started, what a player eh

[Unseen work]

Done well when he came on

Took his goal brilliantly and I was screaming at him to square it 🤣

[Stairway 2 7]

Done well when he came on

Took his goal brilliantly and I was screaming at him to square it 🤣

Myko didn't look happy. But if your a striker worth your salt you go for that and he did superbly

[Pytheas]

Mentioned in his post-match that he has to get his hand fixed now and "hopefully not out for too long".

Hope he doesn't miss Ibrox we'll need him.

[Donegal Hibby]

Done well when he came on

Took his goal brilliantly and I was screaming at him to square it 🤣

Gray said if he didn’t score it he might have been in a bit of bother 😳😂…
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/a-huge-moment-hibs-boss-reacts-to-turning-point-in-first-league-win-of-season-4782100

[BILLYHIBS]

Burst of speed for his goal was vintage Boyler took it well mind cheeky wee chip

[McD]

Mentioned in his post-match that he has to get his hand fixed now and "hopefully not out for too long".

Hope he doesn't miss Ibrox we'll need him.



Wonder why it’s been left til now, he’s been wearing a cast for months.

[The Tubs]

Wonder why it’s been left til now, he’s been wearing a cast for months.

It sounded like he'd agreed to postpone it in order to wait for us to have more squad depth. Good on him.

[lyonhibs]

A lot of nonsense about him being past it, injuries catching up with him etc. 10 games, 10 goal contributions. Still got the X factor and pace to hurt teams, long may it continue

[B.H.F.C]

Criticism of him was ridiculous. He’s not quite at the level he was but he’s chipping in with a goal or assist most weeks. Quality finish today.

[LaMotta]

A lot of nonsense about him being past it, injuries catching up with him etc. 10 games, 10 goal contributions. Still got the X factor and pace to hurt teams, long may it continue


Criticism of him was ridiculous. He’s not quite at the level he was but he’s chipping in with a goal or assist most weeks. Quality finish today.

:agree::agree:

[Stairway 2 7]

A lot of nonsense about him being past it, injuries catching up with him etc. 10 games, 10 goal contributions. Still got the X factor and pace to hurt teams, long may it continue

Every team outwith the old firm would love to have him

[ancient hibee]

Maybe we should send him for long flights regularly.:greengrin

[The Spaceman]

He looked recharged when he came on today. Much, much more like him. Well done Boyler.

[Wilson]

Maybe we should send him for long flights regularly.:greengrin

Last week I'd have sent him one way!

[Baldy Foghorn]

Smashing finish....

[Stairway 2 7]

Last week I'd have sent him one way!

Glad fans aren't managers

[jeffers]

He won’t do this every game but I’d hope today would put to bed the idea that he’s “finished”.

[theonlywayisup]

Discuss

Still a good player! Won't play every game, not as effective as he was in the past, but still has a lot to offer.

[Wilson]

Glad fans aren't managers

Yes. I'd make Naismith look like Lee Johnson, and Lee Johnson look like Pep.

[whiskyhibby]

Thought he had a great half, very dangerous going forward and scored a well taken goal, glad we have him

[marinello59]

A vintage performance from him today. So good to see and enjoy.

[JimBHibees]

Smashing finish....

Agree quality finish at just the right time to take the pressure off us. Think it was good to have him on the bench gave him something to prove imo

[Stairway 2 7]

Yes. I'd make Naismith look like Lee Johnson, and Lee Johnson look like Pep.

Similar. I love when I say to my bairns I'd sub whoever off now and they score

[Smartie]

What a season already 👏

I actually think there’s some merit in the arguments of those who suggest he’s not been at his best this season…

… but what an end product we’ve got already from someone who is not at their best. A very impressive number of goals and assists.

[Forza Fred]

In Boyler we trust!

[Donegal Hibby]

Sofia will be proud of her daddy like us 👏👏👏…

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/14/boyle-scores-on-daughter-s-birthday-/

[EdinMike]

Funny thing is, I was one of those people who did think he hadn’t been on his game as of late. Yet, sitting through the first half I thought to myself “we’re missing a bit of Boyles pace…”

[SHODAN]

I think being dropped motivated him to perform after getting a little complacent recently.

[MWHIBBIES]

Still a good player! Won't play every game, not as effective as he was in the past, but still has a lot to offer.

Id imagine he will play every game. And statistically this is by far his most effective start to a season. 10 goal contributions already.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He won’t do this every game but I’d hope today would put to bed the idea that he’s “finished”.

:agree:

Martin Boyle would get into every team outside the Old Firm. He’s went from being the best non Old Firm player in the league before he left for Saudi and is now just one of the better players in this league. He’s far from finished though.

[Not In The Know]

He won’t do this every game but I’d hope today would put to bed the idea that he’s “finished”.

I think coming of the bench suits him better.

[Cooshed Kid]

He was good yesterday. All of our players will have good and bad days. We just have to hope there are more good than bad and there are more than sufficient goods to compensate for the bad. I think Boyler still has plenty of good days in him. it was an excellent finish though, as SDG said, he should really have passed to Myko for a tap-in.

[ChilliEater]

I don't think he, or Lewis Miller, were "dropped" yesterday. More being managed due to the distance they'd travelled for their internationals. I like the "quality over quantity" idea, but this is when you're glad of a squad big enough to be able to do this. Also good to have a manager who, despite being on a poor run of results, puts the player's welfare above his own need for a win.

[Donegal Hibby]

Mattin Boyle …
https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1835227301874704725?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[erin go bragh]

Mattin Boyle …
https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1835227301874704725?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Operation on his wrist 🫤

[hibee-boys]

Can anyone enlighten me on what the issue is with his wrist? No smutty jokes either please🤷🏼

[Donegal Hibby]

Can anyone enlighten me on what the issue is with his wrist? No smutty jokes either please🤷🏼

Fracture , think he fell on it in a game and did read he had a 2nd accident , might need a OP on it by the sound of it . Boyle has stated he’s been in pain with it . Gray mentions it in this interview at one point ….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQmA2vEdEns

[hibee-boys]

With the international break we’ve just had combined with the upcoming free weekend it would’ve been an ideal time to have the op and be available again for selection for Rangers🙄

[B.H.F.C]

With the international break we’ve just had combined with the upcoming free weekend it would’ve been an ideal time to have the op and be available again for selection for Rangers🙄

From what he said, they’ve basically waited until we have Hoilett and Youan back playing.

[Carheenlea]

Has anyone changed their mind on whether Boyle should have squared to Myko now that the highlights are up online?

The momentum from the change of pace to put him in front of the defender didn’t give him a lot of time to make a decision. There didn’t look to be a huge amount of room to square it as he was very close to keeper. Lifting the ball over him looked to be the easiest option I think.

[IanM]

Has anyone changed their mind on whether Boyle should have squared to Myko now that the highlights are up online?

The momentum from the change of pace to put him in front of the defender didn’t give him a lot of time to make a decision. There didn’t look to be a huge amount of room to square it as he was very close to keeper. Lifting the ball over him looked to be the easiest option I think.

His interview he said he’s been listening to his dad and wanting to get his numbers up - plus his head was down and only had one thing in mind.

Been playing through the pain but he knows he has to get his wrist done - seems it probably has been affecting his performances

[Wilson]

Can anyone enlighten me on what the issue is with his wrist? No smutty jokes either please🤷🏼

Aw. I don't get to allude to him having the same wrist problem as most Australian men?

[CropleyWasGod]

Aw. I don't get to allude to him having the same wrist problem as most Australian men?

Maybe as a one-off.

[Wilson]

Maybe as a one-off.

😆

[007]

Aw. I don't get to allude to him having the same wrist problem as most Australian men?

Spent too much time having a XXXX.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

His interview he said he’s been listening to his dad and wanting to get his numbers up - plus his head was down and only had one thing in mind.

Been playing through the pain but he knows he has to get his wrist done - seems it probably has been affecting his performances

That little factoid did not and won’t stop the comments - mitigating circumstances aren’t allowed when it comes to the judgment of Hibs players it seems.

[Allant1981]

Has anyone changed their mind on whether Boyle should have squared to Myko now that the highlights are up online?

The momentum from the change of pace to put him in front of the defender didn’t give him a lot of time to make a decision. There didn’t look to be a huge amount of room to square it as he was very close to keeper. Lifting the ball over him looked to be the easiest option I think.

Yip at the speed he was going the easier option was the shot, glad he took it as well, need players getting some confidence about them again, especially guys like boyle

[A Hi-Bee]

He is still a good Hibs man, our most effective attacking player, nothing much changed, he has always had good games and crap games.
Glad we still have him at Hibs.
:thumbsup:

[Keith_M]

Looks like Boyle's not Finnish after all.

[LaMotta]

Has anyone changed their mind on whether Boyle should have squared to Myko now that the highlights are up online?

The momentum from the change of pace to put him in front of the defender didn’t give him a lot of time to make a decision. There didn’t look to be a huge amount of room to square it as he was very close to keeper. Lifting the ball over him looked to be the easiest option I think.


His interview he said he’s been listening to his dad and wanting to get his numbers up - plus his head was down and only had one thing in mind.

Been playing through the pain but he knows he has to get his wrist done - seems it probably has been affecting his performances


Yip at the speed he was going the easier option was the shot, glad he took it as well, need players getting some confidence about them again, especially guys like boyle

It went in so it doesn't matter - but when you see this picture I can see why squaring it might be considered the most sensible play :cool2:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXcoxwMXoAESDgG?format=jpg&name=small

[hibee-boys]

It was a sublime finish, at first I thought it was travelling over the bar. Looking at that still he’d have been slaughtered if it had not gone in though.

[erin go bragh]

It went in so it doesn't matter - but when you see this picture I can see why squaring it might be considered the most sensible play :cool2:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXcoxwMXoAESDgG?format=jpg&name=small
Had he not scored he would have been slaughtered on here for not squaring it to Miko.

[Allant1981]

It went in so it doesn't matter - but when you see this picture I can see why squaring it might be considered the most sensible play :cool2:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXcoxwMXoAESDgG?format=jpg&name=small

It certainly was an option but we have seen boyle score these types of goals so many times, was never in doubt!

[MWHIBBIES]

It certainly was an option but we have seen boyle score these types of goals so many times, was never in doubt!

Agreed. I never even considered Boyle was going to pass. He gets in that area, he usually scores. Didn't notice Myko was so open till I seen highlights.

[LaMotta]

Had he not scored he would have been slaughtered on here for not squaring it to Miko.


It certainly was an option but we have seen boyle score these types of goals so many times, was never in doubt!

The probability of scoring if he passes there is far greater than from shooting IMO - if he was in that position 100 times and passes 100 times the end result would be more goals than if he was to shoot 100 times I think. But it was a tremendous finish and I'm delighted how much of an impact he had yesterday.

[McD]

With the international break we’ve just had combined with the upcoming free weekend it would’ve been an ideal time to have the op and be available again for selection for Rangers🙄


From what he said, they’ve basically waited until we have Hoilett and Youan back playing.



He also wouldn’t have wanted to miss playing for Australia, which is understandable

[flash]

Just read it was his 100th Scottish league goal the majority of which have been in our colours.

[Donegal Hibby]

Missing the Sevco game right enough
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/key-hibs-man-to-miss-rangers-clash-due-to-surgery-as-clubs-rotten-injury-luck-continues-4783630

[theonlywayisup]

What SDG said about Boyle post-match.

Gray, for his part, doesn’t stand with those who suggest that the winger has been five or ten per cent short of his best so far this season, pointing out: “Listen, he's been playing with that cast on his hand. He's got a fracture in his hand.

“It has probably affected him a little bit but credit to him. He's always put his hand up to say: ‘I'm available, I want to keep pushing on.’ Against recommendations, at times, that he maybe needs to get something done with his hand.

“He loves playing for this football club, he gives everything absolutely all the time. You’ve seen when he came on how effective he can be and even his goal involvements this season, he’s been great for us.”

We're lucky to have Martin Boyle, who certainly is not finished.

[ancient hibee]

What SDG said about Boyle post-match.

Gray, for his part, doesn’t stand with those who suggest that the winger has been five or ten per cent short of his best so far this season, pointing out: “Listen, he's been playing with that cast on his hand. He's got a fracture in his hand.

“It has probably affected him a little bit but credit to him. He's always put his hand up to say: ‘I'm available, I want to keep pushing on.’ Against recommendations, at times, that he maybe needs to get something done with his hand.

“He loves playing for this football club, he gives everything absolutely all the time. You’ve seen when he came on how effective he can be and even his goal involvements this season, he’s been great for us.”

We're lucky to have Martin Boyle, who certainly is not finished.

Can't be right-finished,doesn't try, not interested,get rid etc. etc.

[Stokesy's on fire]

We need to get a new contract sorted for him.

[hibee-boys]

We need to get a new contract sorted for him.

I suspect Martin will be keeping his options open until the end of the season. If rumours are true about his current deal then there’s no danger the club will be offering those terms again. Nothing against Martin, and I’d love him to continue to stay, but a 2 year deal on reduced terms may be the best we can offer.

[Ronniekirk]

Missing the Sevco game right enough
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/latest-hibs-news/key-hibs-man-to-miss-rangers-clash-due-to-surgery-as-clubs-rotten-injury-luck-continues-4783630

and possibly Motherwell game depending on how he heals

[Tambo]

Just watched it back now, great pass from Cadden with a wonderful finish from Boyle.

Knows he can offer us more, so fingers crossed he can get his head down and kick on.

[Donegal Hibby]

We need to get a new contract sorted for him.

Think we have an option for another year on him .

[worcesterhibby]

I suspect Martin will be keeping his options open until the end of the season. If rumours are true about his current deal then there’s no danger the club will be offering those terms again. Nothing against Martin, and I’d love him to continue to stay, but a 2 year deal on reduced terms may be the best we can offer.

He’ll be off to Oz

[Stokesy's on fire]

I suspect Martin will be keeping his options open until the end of the season. If rumours are true about his current deal then there’s no danger the club will be offering those terms again. Nothing against Martin, and I’d love him to continue to stay, but a 2 year deal on reduced terms may be the best we can offer.


What rumours?

[itslegaltender]

What rumours?

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/scottish-premiership/who-is-the-highest-paid-scottish-premiership-player-in-2024-richest-players-that-dont-play-for-rangers-or-celtic-4552350?page=2

too many Hibs subs bench on this list.

[Northernhibee]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/scottish-premiership/who-is-the-highest-paid-scottish-premiership-player-in-2024-richest-players-that-dont-play-for-rangers-or-celtic-4552350?page=2

too many Hibs subs bench on this list.

Le Fondre wasn’t on £18k per week, not sure how much you can read into the list.

Fair to say that Boyle, Levitt etc. are on decent wages though.

[Jones28]

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/scottish-premiership/who-is-the-highest-paid-scottish-premiership-player-in-2024-richest-players-that-dont-play-for-rangers-or-celtic-4552350?page=2

too many Hibs subs bench on this list.

Le Fondre was never ever on that kind of money.

There was a mis-interpretation of his $15,000 Australian dollar wages - which is just over £7,500.

The Scotsman think we doubled his wages and then sprinkled a bit extra on top to lure him to ER, only to cut him lose a year later?

Who still reads this ****ing paper?

[MKHIBEE]

Has anyone changed their mind on whether Boyle should have squared to Myko now that the highlights are up online?

The momentum from the change of pace to put him in front of the defender didn’t give him a lot of time to make a decision. There didn’t look to be a huge amount of room to square it as he was very close to keeper. Lifting the ball over him looked to be the easiest option I think.

He scored so it was the right play, if he missed he should have squared it

[Hibernian Verse]

That list was based on Football Manager was it not?

[J-C]

That list was based on Football Manager was it not?

👍

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Massive game from Boyler. His best since? Possibly his first spell? Fantastic

[Unseen work]

Best he’s played in a long long time

Looked like a captain today too

Excellent work rate and very good on the ball

[Jones28]

Captains performance today. Magnificent and kept going right to the end.

[Bostonhibby]

Very good today, more of the same please.

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[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Absolutely brilliant today, ran his socks off 👍💚

[LaMotta]

Today and the Aberdeen games were absolutely brilliant performances from Boyle.

Looking back at some of the early comments on this thread, people should be ashamed of themselves for some of their hyperbolic comments. The team and him weren't performing as well as they should have a few months back but the dismissiveness of Boyle at that time from some people despite him being our biggest goal contributor was so reactionary & off the mark.

Glad he is proving those people wrong.

[Donegal Hibby]

My MotM .. outstanding today from our Captain 👏

[B.H.F.C]

Today and the Aberdeen games were absolutely brilliant performances from Boyle.

Looking back at some of the early comments on this thread, people should be ashamed of themselves for some of their hyperbolic comments. The team and him weren't performing as well as they should have a few months back but the dismissiveness of Boyle at that time from some people despite him being our biggest goal contributor was so reactionary & off the mark.

Glad he is proving those people wrong.

I totally disagreed with the comments about him being finished earlier in the season. He’s not going to play like he played today every week but he’s never been finished. There is a fair bit of middle ground between that and not doing what he’s capable week in, week out.

[jeffers]

I totally disagreed with the comments about him being finished earlier in the season. He’s not going to play like he played today every week but he’s never been finished. There is a fair bit of middle ground between that and not doing what he’s capable week in, week out.

Absolutely spot on.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Must be kept on as captain 👍💚

[hibee_girl]

He’s back to his best.

Although I will admit I did not want him taking the penalty 😄