Bursik

[LaMotta]

Think Bursik had looked decent over the League Cup games - comfortable with the ball at his feet, calm on crosses and commanding the box.

He obviously hadnt been tested with many shots and I'd read on here there were concerns from his time at previous club(s) around his shot stopping.

First real test yesterday. I know there are some keepers on here - what are the thoughts on his positioning for the first goal? Looks to me like he's way too far over to the right:

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A step or two to the left and he can save a shot near post or far post. The ways he's set up has given himself no chance for a far post shot it seems.

[Hibernian Verse]

The worst thing about that goal is the 5 Hibs players between the shot and the goal, but not one of them could block it.

[LaMotta]

The worst thing about that goal is the 5 Hibs players between the shot and the goal, but not one of them could block it.

I don't think any player can block that really once he gets in a shooting position. But yeah NMW allowed him to have that space to shoot way too easily. Boyle decides to get involved too late as well.

[bingo70]

Think Bursik had looked decent over the League Cup games - comfortable with the ball at his feet, calm on crosses and commanding the box.

He obviously hadnt been tested with many shots and I'd read on here there were concerns from his time at previous club(s) around his shot stopping.

First real test yesterday. I know there are some keepers on here - what are the thoughts on his positioning for the first goal? Looks to me like he's way too far over to the right:

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A step or two to the left and he can save a shot near post or far post. The ways he's set up has given himself no chance for a far post shot it seems.

I thought the same thing at the time. Was a shot that seemed to go in almost in the middle of the goals, that’s maybe exaggerating a bit but it certainly wasn’t in the corner.

[Brightside]

I don't think any player can block that really once he gets in a shooting position. But yeah NMW allowed him to have that space to shoot way too easily. Boyle decides to get involved too late as well.

Boyle and NMW were poor with that goal. I'd hold off digging the keeper tbh. NMW makes it easy for the guy to cut back and Boyle doesnt bother his arse to get back and support.

[MelbourneHibees]

Thought he could have done better for the 2nd goal tbh.

[McGruber]

Said same on other thread when people saying he had no chance with first, you could tell by his reaction he thought he could have done better. He's too far forward and too close to the near post. From the angle of the shot you would expect the keeper to at very least get close to it - was as if he wasn't there. Suspect for 2nd aswell, slow getting down and never moved his feet quick enough - a bit unsighted though. 1st game, giving the guy benefit of the doubt. Looked good with cross balls a positive

[Del Boy]

Thought he could have done better for the 2nd goal tbh.

I thought so too, wasn’t the most powerful header and from quite far out, albeit well placed

[Unseen work]

Was going to post a similar thread last night

1st goal - positioning looked far too close to the front post, maybe he just wasn’t expecting the boy to cut in as easily/quick as he did but he then never seemed to move his feet. His reaction of playing dead on the ground after it made me think he thought he could have done better

2nd goal - I don’t know if he thought O’Hora was going to deal with it but he seemed to again not move his feet at all and react really late for a pretty soft header.

3rd goal - as it’s cut back to the st Mirren player he seems to put his legs together and crouch smaller rather than when you see keepers trying to make themselves as big as possible.

Hes not player competitively in a while due to his injuries so hopefully it will come.

The above sounds harsh but I have been impressed with him overall since he joined and he’s already had a couple of good saves.

[Smartie]

For all he didn't have much to do (again) I thought he'd had a fairly assured first half.

Second half though, there were question marks there, although I thought he was unsighted for the header.

[GreenCastle]

I was more concerned about the 2nd and 3rd goals - felt his positioning and footwork was all wrong.

I’m yet to see him make a save and think wow.

I wanted us to find a keeper who wins us close games.

He seems good at catching crosses and distribution but Stoke fans made the point about actually making saves - I’m yet to be convinced.

[hibsbollah]

Sounds obvious, but a keepers job is to get himself in the best position to give him the best chance to make a save. When looking at a video or freeze frame, you need to put him one step to either side in your minds eye and then decide if he’s covering more or less of the goal relative to the angle of the striker if he’d adopted that position instead. Adding into the equation that you never know what side the striker puts the ball (the natural angle for the striker cutting in from the left like for the first goal is actually at Bursiks near post). I cant tell that on the law of averages he gets his position ‘wrong’ on any of them.

More concerned at the lack of firm decision making at the second goal. Never gets set and you could almost see him think/panic.

[Silky]

Team game. Ball should have been nowhere near him in the first place. I'd be questioning why he was exposed by the 10 in front if him all game. Keeper's get a hard time imo.

[Silky]

I thought so too, wasn’t the most powerful header and from quite far out, albeit well placed

Boy should never have been allowed to get the header in the first place. The keeper's the last one I'd be hanning out to dry for that goal.

[LaMotta]

Team game. Ball should have been nowhere near him in the first place. I'd be questioning why he was exposed by the 10 in front if him all game. Keeper's get a hard time imo.

You are absloutely right about the defending of the team for 1st goal, but that is largely covered elsewhere and doesn't mean the keeper's role can't be analysed seperately.

A mix of views so far but not sure if we've heard from a Hibs.net goalie yet - I'd be interested in that perspective.

[EGL2000]

Boyle and NMW were poor with that goal. I'd hold off digging the keeper tbh. NMW makes it easy for the guy to cut back and Boyle doesnt bother his arse to get back and support.

Boyle also left him earlier on in the move and didn't track him as he ran forward.

[EGL2000]

Sounds obvious, but a keepers job is to get himself in the best position to give him the best chance to make a save. When looking at a video or freeze frame, you need to put him one step to either side in your minds eye and then decide if he’s covering more or less of the goal relative to the angle of the striker if he’d adopted that position instead. Adding into the equation that you never know what side the striker puts the ball (the natural angle for the striker cutting in from the left like for the first goal is actually at Bursiks near post). I cant tell that on the law of averages he gets his position ‘wrong’ on any of them.

More concerned at the lack of firm decision making at the second goal. Never gets set and you could almost see him think/panic.

I was about to mention that he's not actually made a save yet that hasn't been just straight down his throat. Obviously you can only save what comes at you but is slightly worrying that he's not really saved anything remotely in a corner yet. As you mentioned above Stoke fans said he never really made any good saves.

[Hibee Mac]

I thought he was suspect for all 3 goals, hopefully we're not looking at yet another goalkeeper who is not very good at the most important part of being a goalkeeper, saving shots.

Agree that he is not the main reason for any of the 3 goals, just think he should have saved at least 1 or 2 of them.

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[eastterrace]

Boyle also left him earlier on in the move and didn't track him as he ran forward. also watch Boyle half hearted attempt to block the shot on the 1st, reminded me of Josh vela against hearts.

[Big_Franck]

He doesn't fill me with much confidence already. Thought he was suspect for the second and third goals yesterday. I'm hoping it's just rustiness as he's barely played over the last year or so, and that he'll grow into the role. He needs to, as the back up is not going to be at the level required to improve us.

[Pretty Boy]

Harsh to lay the blame for any of those goals at the keepers door.

First is hit with pace from relatively close range, if he takes a step inside he can't cover that near post at all and the ball has to travel a far shorter distance to goal if aimed there, his position is covering the obvious danger area and a step inside creates an easier chance for the attacker. He has been left totally exposed and having to decide between 2 pretty bad scenarios.

Second he can't get a dive away because O'Hora is right in front of him, that has a double whammy of leaving him unsighted and aware of the risk of the defender diverting the ball. Maybe he can give a wee shout for him to leave it but it all plays out quickly. Nothing he can do about the short back pass. If he challenges for the ball every chance he concedes a penalty and we are decrying a rush of blood to the head.

Third is well hit, in the corner and travelling away from him.