Obita

[LaMotta]

Seems to fly under the radar in terms of criticism - but he was absolutely dreadful today as well. Put in about 6 or seven crosses - all of them either didn't get past the first man or were well overhit. Abysmal stuff. ( Edit one good cross for Vente's sitter).

The fact he was our player of the year last year sums up just how bad last season was. People will say we have more pressing things to worry about, but he's part of the problem as well. The squad is an absolute mess.

[Unseen work]

He also put one on a plate for the striker that “just needs service”

[LaMotta]

He also put one on a plate for the striker that “just needs service”

It would have been a shock if he got an assist as he played in 45 games last season and didn't get one.

[BILLYHIBS]

Seems to fly under the radar in terms of criticism - but he was absolutely dreadful today as well. Put in about 6 or seven crosses - all of them either didn't get past the first man or were well overhit. Abysmal stuff.

The fact he was our player of the year last year sums up just how bad last season was. People will say we have more pressing things to worry about, but he's part of the problem as well.

Thought his crossing was fine whipped into dangerous areas waiting on someone to take a gamble and get in front of a defender and get on the end of them

I remember the Fontaine of Knowledge complimenting him though point taken not all were worldys

Not my favourite player not the best defensively goes forward and forgets to come back but I still consider him to be a good player good engine good going forward and our POTY

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Was he not player of the season last term?

[LaMotta]

Was he not player of the season last term?

Yes he was as I mentioned in the first post (should have been Maolida though). The fact he was POTY though sums up how bad things are. He is decent on his day, but cost us a fair few times last year by switching off - and despite having a reputation as "good going forward" went all season last year without an assist.

He has absolutely no competition for his starting slot either.

[MWHIBBIES]

It would have been a shock if he got an assist as he played in 45 games last season and didn't get one.

He has 2 already this season.

But yes, dreadful today

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

File under another crap player 💩

[LaMotta]

He has 2 already this season.

But yes, dreadful today

Against part time teams, which as you have pointed out before doesn't hold much weight.

[MWHIBBIES]

Against part time teams, which as you have pointed out before doesn't hold much weight.

Agreed of course.

But his cross for Vente was genuinely excellent today.

[LaMotta]

Agreed of course.

But his cross for Vente was genuinely excellent today.

Just watched that back and tbf that is a great cross - that's the final straw with Vente for me, what is he playing at??!

[snedzuk]

He also put one on a plate for the striker that “just needs service”

What a state Vente was in after about 55 minutes. Far from needing service, looked like he needed A service.

[BILLYHIBS]

Just watched that back and tbf that is a great cross - that's the final straw with Vente for me, what is he playing at??!

I had already made up my mind but that sealed it

Dud !

[Nicho87]

Must be hard to keep your standards up when you don’t have another left back pushing you on

[Smartie]

He had a wild 10 minute spell during the second half where he was all over the shop.

It was almost - but not quite - as bad as Delf’s disaster spell against the same opponents at the same time last season.

We need more from him. He lost it as badly as anyone during our poor spell today.

[LaMotta]

Must be hard to keep your standards up when you don’t have another left back pushing you on

:agree:

[BILLYHIBS]

He had a wild 10 minute spell during the second half where he was all over the shop.

It was almost - but not quite - as bad as Delf’s disaster spell against the same opponents at the same time last season.

We need more from him. He lost it as badly as anyone during our poor spell today.

I also remember Tom James having a nightmare against St Mirren at ER a few years back where he would wander off his man and the Saintees would just lob the ball over his head time and time again

Think he thought it was easy up here :greengrin

[B.H.F.C]

He’s just another average player IMO.

Because we have so little creativity in the middle of the park, our only idea seemed to be to pass the ball to him and let him put a hopeful cross in to the box.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Unpopular opinion probably. But he's a bit like cadden. Not a full back. Wing back in a 5 maybe. Feel he switches off too much defensively and is caught out of position but is really good going forward. I love his one touch and delivery he puts in so often

Played really well that time he slotted in at LCB so clearly has defensive capabilities

[Hiber-nation]

As inconsistent a player as I've ever seen. Can deliver a lovely ball and defend really well. Other times his passing and crossing is awful and he's all over the shop defensively.

[LaMotta]

Unpopular opinion probably. But he's a bit like cadden. Not a full back. Wing back in a 5 maybe. Feel he switches off too much defensively and is caught out of position but is really good going forward. I love his one touch and delivery he puts in so often

Played really well that time he slotted in at LCB so clearly has defensive capabilities

Totally agree with you about his LCB performance - was the best I've seen him play for us.

I agree that neither him or Cadden are great defensively, but I also would say neither are particularly great going forward - certainly not as good as some make out. Their lack of assists and goals contributions would back this up.

[Scottie]

Must be hard to keep your standards up when you don’t have another left back pushing you on
Lewis managed it bar Doig for near 20 years

[LaMotta]

Just watched the highlights back. If anyone can bring themselves to, watch Obita for the 3rd goal (4 min 7 secs in). Absolutely pathetic.

https://youtu.be/JXltEwmFgdI?si=H-UVMywcX1ZF9jRq

[EGL2000]

Absolutely crazy decision yesterday when he tried to skill his way out the middle of the park as the last defender. I like him, be he was very poor yesterday, along with basically everyone else.

[Donegal Hibby]

Just watched the highlights back. If anyone can bring themselves to, watch Obita for the 3rd goal (4 min 7 secs in). Absolutely pathetic.

https://youtu.be/JXltEwmFgdI?si=H-UVMywcX1ZF9jRq

Seen this happen many times last season where he was regularly getting caught out of position . We got fullbacks that can't defend which is a major part of the problem and I'm glad somebody has highlighted it . 2 goals and no assists last season from a fullback that regularly left us exposed at the back isn't great imo .

[Unseen work]

Seen this happen many times last season where he was regularly getting caught out of position . We got fullbacks that can't defend which is a major part of the problem and I'm glad somebody has highlighted it . 2 goals and no assists last season from a fullback that regularly left us exposed at the back isn't great imo .

I don’t put too much blame at Obita for this one.

Playing 352, Newell had comfortable possession in the St Mirren half before trying to drive forward and took a heavy touch which lead to him losing possession and a pin ball effect.

I thought O’Hora, as the left of a back 3, should have got out to Scott and narrowed the angle.

Look where O’Hora is when the pass is made to Scott, he then massively drops off and runs towards the centre of the goal

[LaMotta]

I don’t put too much blame at Obita for this one.

Playing 352, Newell had comfortable possession in the St Mirren half before trying to drive forward and took a heavy touch which lead to him losing possession and a pin ball effect.

I thought O’Hora, as the left of a back 3, should have got out to Scott and narrowed the angle.

Look where O’Hora is when the pass is made to Scott, he then massively drops off and runs towards the centre of the goal


The photo you posted shows St Mirren with a three on two advantage - Obita, as our left back (it was a back 4 not back 3?), should be sprinting to get back in. Instead he jogs at snails pace (similar to Miovski semi winner for Sheep) and finally reacts way too late. We need much better effort there.

O'Hora is in a difficult position as he has to hedge his bets initially between the 2 runners.

[Hibee Daft]

Really don't understand the hate on Obita, was consistently our best player last season and

[LaMotta]

Really don't understand the hate on Obita, was consistently our best player last season and

There's no hate for Obita. After a result and performance like Sunday's everyone should come under fair scrutiny. He got his POTY on a fairly high number of 7/10 performances. Maolida was miles ahead in his time here.

Good that we now have the other Cadden in to help out with some competition on that side of the pitch.

[Donegal Hibby]

Really don't understand the hate on Obita, was consistently our best player last season and

Don’t hate the guy but do think he is prone to leaving us exposed on the left side and not getting back quick enough in helping the defence. Surprised he got player of the season tbh , apart from Maolida who was the standout player . We could have put the names of the rest in to a tombola and just picked one out .

[Unseen work]

The photo you posted shows St Mirren with a three on two advantage - Obita, as our left back (it was a back 4 not back 3?), should be sprinting to get back in. Instead he jogs at snails pace (similar to Miovski semi winner for Sheep) and finally reacts way too late. We need much better effort there.

O'Hora is in a difficult position as he has to hedge his bets initially between the 2 runners.

Personally think the formation had changed by this point to

……miller….ekpiteta….o’hora….

Cadden…Amos….Newell…..Obita

……………..Campbell

………….Myk…………Boyle…

[CapitalGreen]

The photo you posted shows St Mirren with a three on two advantage - Obita, as our left back (it was a back 4 not back 3?), should be sprinting to get back in. Instead he jogs at snails pace (similar to Miovski semi winner for Sheep) and finally reacts way too late. We need much better effort there.

O'Hora is in a difficult position as he has to hedge his bets initially between the 2 runners.

Had we not switched to a back 3 with the introduction of Cadden?

[B.H.F.C]

Had we not switched to a back 3 with the introduction of Cadden?

Not straight away. He initially came on RW and Boyle went over to the left. Think the formation then changed with the next set of subs. Can’t remember what point that was at though.

[LaMotta]

Personally think the formation had changed by this point to

……miller….ekpiteta….o’hora….

Cadden…Amos….Newell…..Obita

……………..Campbell

………….Myk…………Boyle…


Had we not switched to a back 3 with the introduction of Cadden?


Not straight away. He initially came on RW and Boyle went over to the left. Think the formation then changed with the next set of subs. Can’t remember what point that was at though.

As B.H.F C says we def kept same formation initially with Boyle just slotting in to Rudi's position and Cadden taking up Boyle's role.

By two nil down we may well have went to a back three (although I didnt notice an obvious switch) but I think either way Obita has to be giving more for that 3rd goal!

[LaMotta]

Obita poor again for their opener, just strolling back with minimum effort and ensuring Kuhn has a tap in.

28091

Far too regular an occurence. :boo hoo:

[Wheat Hound]

Been dreadful in recent games. So slow and hopefully dropped once Nicky Cadden is fit.

[Allant1981]

Was very poor today, usually pretty solid but looked very slow today

[Smartie]

He’s fairly abysmal defensively.

Quite elegant and good going forward though.

I’d thought that if he tightened it up defensively then he’d have it in him to be a really top player but with him not being a young man, that would probably have happened by now if it was ever going to.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i've felt that both Obita and Chris Cadden are better up front swinging in crosses, lord knows what formation would be required to have them both playing further forward and leaving the defending part to others but now we have Nick Cadden he's more a left midfielder winger type, 3-5-2 3-4-3 maybe ? then where would we fit Obita in :hmmm: i'm going to let SDG decide :)

[Centre Hawf]

He’s fairly abysmal defensively.

Quite elegant and good going forward though.

I’d thought that if he tightened it up defensively then he’d have it in him to be a really top player but with him not being a young man, that would probably have happened by now if it was ever going to.

I don't hugely disagree about the going forward part, but at the same time I was surprised to see he only had 2 since joining (all of which in this league cup group stage). Not expecting him to be Andy Robertson levels of creative but considering how suspect defensively he can be you'd like to see him grab a few more over a season to justify it.

[blackpoolhibs]

Was very poor today, usually pretty solid but looked very slow today

I just dont see that, i feel he's a poor defender who knocks the odd decent cross into the box.

[Unseen work]

I think it’s harsh blaming him for the goal yesterday

Look at the position he’s in when the ball breaks to the Celtic player in their half. Kuhn has a head start on him.

His reaction should be better to Bursik making the save, as should miller and the rest of the teams. I honestly don’t think they expected it to be parried where it was however.

[raeburnhibs]

I think it’s harsh blaming him for the goal yesterday

Look at the position he’s in when the ball breaks to the Celtic player in their half. Kuhn has a head start on him.

His reaction should be better to Bursik making the save, as should miller and the rest of the teams. I honestly don’t think they expected it to be parried where it was however.

The parry looked an error at the time from broadly in line in the East, it didn't look so bad in the tv replay I saw this morning. I think the goalkeeper should be expecting better cover from his defenders

[EVENTUALLY]

Was very poor today, usually pretty solid but looked very slow today


I just dont see that, i feel he's a poor defender who knocks the odd decent cross into the box.

Summarised perfectly. Takes up plenty decent positions on the left side approx 35/40 yards out and turns back time and time again rather than swinging a cross into the penalty area. There was an issue that Vente is limited when challenging for a high ball and maybe Bowie and Myko's presence will give him some confidence to deliver the ball straight into the box. Defensively he copes with high balls reasonably well and has decent speed but when being faced by an opponent in possession bearing down on him his jockying is totally ineffective and he is regularly beaten. I think he'd be better suited to being part of a back three.

[Smartie]

I think it’s harsh blaming him for the goal yesterday

Look at the position he’s in when the ball breaks to the Celtic player in their half. Kuhn has a head start on him.

His reaction should be better to Bursik making the save, as should miller and the rest of the teams. I honestly don’t think they expected it to be parried where it was however.

Wherever the specific blame is apportioned for that one, it isn’t hard to imagine us losing a lot of goals down that side over the course of the season.

[thebakerboy]

What a state Vente was in after about 55 minutes. Far from needing service, looked like he needed A service.
Thats strange as he didnt come on until the 75th. minute

[LaMotta]

I think it’s harsh blaming him for the goal yesterday

Look at the position he’s in when the ball breaks to the Celtic player in their half. Kuhn has a head start on him.

His reaction should be better to Bursik making the save, as should miller and the rest of the teams. I honestly don’t think they expected it to be parried where it was however.

He is by no means solely to blame, but if you watch the whole passage of play then the reason Kuhn has a huge head start on him is because Obita isnt busting a gut to get back.

He even slows down at one point rather than sprinting to try to get close to Kuhn. He's our left back and right now hes in a no man's land of offering very little going forward and not getting back in to divert danger when we need it (see also St Mirren last week).

[LaMotta]

He is by no means solely to blame, but if you watch the whole passage of play then the reason Kuhn has a huge head start on him is because Obita isnt busting a gut to get back.

He even slows down at one point rather than sprinting to try to get close to Kuhn. He's our left back and right now hes in a no man's land of offering very little going forward and not getting back in to divert danger when we need it (see also St Mirren last week).

Further point, he may be another one that has lost a bit of pace, his best game for us was as a centre back last season with the game in front of him. Maybe that suits him better now.

[Donegal Hibby]

I just dont see that, i feel he's a poor defender who knocks the odd decent cross into the box.

Both our FB’s are poor at defending , particularly Obita IMO as we’ve seen time and time again . Last season his contribution from an attacking point was fairly poor and I wonder how it faired with other attacking LB’s in our league ?.

[Tyler Durden]

Further point, he may be another one that has lost a bit of pace, his best game for us was as a centre back last season with the game in front of him. Maybe that suits him better now.

I think going to back 3 would help a number of our issues, Obita being one.

Get Nicky Cadden in at LWB asap and get Bowie up with Myko. Also means less onus on the midfield to defend. Think we just need to go direct and play to the strengths of having 2 big centre forwards.

[LaMotta]

Both our FB’s are poor at defending , particularly Obita IMO as we’ve seen time and time again . Last season his contribution from an attacking point was fairly poor and I wonder how it faired with other attacking LB’s in our league ?.

So last season Devlin at Aberdeen had 5 assists, Cochrane had 6.

Obita had 0.

[LaMotta]

I think going to back 3 would help a number of our issues, Obita being one.

Get Nicky Cadden in at LWB asap and get Bowie up with Myko. Also means less onus on the midfield to defend. Think we just need to go direct and play to the strengths of having 2 big centre forwards.

Think that could be a good shout.

[B.H.F.C]

I think going to back 3 would help a number of our issues, Obita being one.

Get Nicky Cadden in at LWB asap and get Bowie up with Myko. Also means less onus on the midfield to defend. Think we just need to go direct and play to the strengths of having 2 big centre forwards.

With what we have available that seems to be the sensible option for me.

Hibs are always better, IMO, when we have two up top. Get Myko and Bowie up to speed and playing together and I think they’d be a handful.

[Donegal Hibby]

So last season Devlin at Aberdeen had 5 assists, Cochrane had 6.

Obita had 0.

Which just goes to show that he wasn’t very productive while leaving us vulnerable defensively.

[JimBHibees]

So last season Devlin at Aberdeen had 5 assists, Cochrane had 6.

Obita had 0.

To be fair he should have had one last week

[1875Sean]

I think going to back 3 would help a number of our issues, Obita being one.

Get Nicky Cadden in at LWB asap and get Bowie up with Myko. Also means less onus on the midfield to defend. Think we just need to go direct and play to the strengths of having 2 big centre forwards.

Seen a few people say play obita in a back 3, I know he filled in there a few games last season but he is never a centre back, better going forward than defending, would need another defender if we were to go 3 at the back

[Smartie]

Seen a few people say play obita in a back 3, I know he filled in there a few games last season but he is never a centre back, better going forward than defending, would need another defender if we were to go 3 at the back

I find it really quite hard to tally up the fact that one of his best games for us was at centre back with his defending being so poor at times.

It's stuff like concentration too - essential for a centre half.

[1875Sean]

I find it really quite hard to tally up the fact that one of his best games for us was at centre back with his defending being so poor at times.

It's stuff like concentration too - essential for a centre half.

It’s thr same kinda chat a few years ago like get Porto in a holding midfield role, he played there and did okay the odd game but long term it’s not his position

[Tyler Durden]

It’s thr same kinda chat a few years ago like get Porto in a holding midfield role, he played there and did okay the odd game but long term it’s not his position

Not the same at all IMO. Pretty common for full backs and CBs to interchange or be versatile to play either role.

Obita is pretty good 1 vs 1 duels and also in the air. Where he tends to struggle IMO is getting up and down - arguably that’s also due to our continual lack of midfield protection.

But with the game largely in front of him and him having to build out the game as a LCB I think he’d be fine.

Porto playing a holding role was a totally different skill set which he obviously was never going to have

[LaMotta]

Not the same at all IMO. Pretty common for full backs and CBs to interchange or be versatile to play either role.

Obita is pretty good 1 vs 1 duels and also in the air. Where he tends to struggle IMO is getting up and down - arguably that’s also due to our continual lack of midfield protection.

But with the game largely in front of him and him having to build out the game as a LCB I think he’d be fine.

Porto playing a holding role was a totally different skill set which he obviously was never going to have

agreed.

[Mikey_1875]

Stunk the place out today. A worrying start to the season in a position we aren’t blessed with cover for. Especially if we are 4 at the back.

[BoomtownHibees]

Stunk the place out today

Think that was the home fans

[Hiber-nation]

If you can't be bothered tracking your man properly, jogging rather than sprinting game after game then you shouldn't be in the team.

I really liked him at times last season, in the 1-1 at tynie in particular he was excellent. But he's just not putting in the effort required now and that's unacceptable.

[B.H.F.C]

If you can't be bothered tracking your man properly, jogging rather than sprinting game after game then you shouldn't be in the team.

I really liked him at times last season, in the 1-1 at tynie in particular he was excellent. But he's just not putting in the effort required now and that's unacceptable.

I agree with the bit about effort. He showed no desire to stop balls coming in to the box, again, today. Too many players going through the motions. It’s a mentality thing. You look at Callum McGregor on the other side, still darting about in injury time picking up loose balls and playing with a bit of purpose. I know he’s a better player than ours, but he grafts harder than any of them as well.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Woeful player imo

[flash]

Woeful player imo

Nah he isn't but he is playing very poorly right now.

[Pretty Boy]

The point in the 2nd half when he got the ball in a good position and overran the ball under no pressure summed up his performances the last 2 weeks.

He had a total shocker today. I don't dislike him as a player but we definitely need another option out there.

[Ronniekirk]

Was he not our player of the year last season .He went through a couple of sticky patches then , and improved . But when he is poor he looks unfit and has first touch of an elephant
But when on form looks strong and can get a decent delivery into the box
I thought we gave him an extension to his contract last year on the back of some good performances
But last thing we need is for him to be playing like he is Just adds to defensive problems we have

[Hibees1973]

One of my favourite left sided defenders at Hibs was Ulrik Laursen.

What a Rolls Royce he was.

Big, physically imposing and good on the ball.

No wonder we ship goals by the lorry load with players such as Obita in the side.

[ekhibee]

Which just goes to show that he wasn’t very productive while leaving us vulnerable defensively.

I don't agree really, there were quite a few games when Obita put good balls into the box but there were no takers. Up front we were ***** last season.

[greenlex]

Nah he isn't but he is playing very poorly right now.
This.

[Unseen work]

Good player who hasn’t had the best start to the season

He’ll come good again

[Keith_M]

One of my favourite left sided defenders at Hibs was Ulrik Laursen.

....


He was probably the best left back I've ever seen at Hibs.

Great defender and so calm and composed when he had possession..

[Paul1642]

One of my favourite left sided defenders at Hibs was Ulrik Laursen.

What a Rolls Royce he was.

Big, physically imposing and good on the ball.

No wonder we ship goals by the lorry load with players such as Obita in the side.

Great player. Best LB I’ve seen play for us expect for David Murphy.

[Donegal Hibby]

The best left back and my favourite I seen… https://youtu.be/ygk1dpyrE5I?feature=shared

[supermcginn]

Great player. Best LB I’ve seen play for us expect for David Murphy.

Yip Laursen and Murphy were two outstanding players,
very hard to split them. Best two full backs I've seen play for us by a mile.

[ekhibee]

Great player. Best LB I’ve seen play for us expect for David Murphy.

Murphy was the best left back IMO, really good player.

[LaMotta]

Absolutely shocking first half from Obita - no idea what he was doing at the first goal.

Second half he was a different man, played very well I thought. More of the latter please.

[Is It On....]

I don't agree really, there were quite a few games when Obita put good balls into the box but there were no takers. Up front we were ***** last season.

Last season we scored more than our fair share but conceded far too too many. This season in 3 league games we have scored 3 goals but already conceded 8. You simply can't expect to advance with such a poor defensive record.

[Hibees1973]

I think his instinct is to attack, not to defend.

We need robust, strong defenders who are difficult to get past.

Yet another in our team who is not good enough. If Hibs are to be a good side under Gray, Obita won't be in it.

[Unseen work]

Thought he was a lot better today other than his howler for the goal

[Hibee Mac]

Ropey first half, very good second half. We know Obita is good he's just having a tough start to this season.

I'm far more concerned about RB tbh, we look just as poor on that side. Unlike Obita, we've seen nothing from any of our RB's to think they're better than this.

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[Smartie]

Absolutely shocking first half from Obita - no idea what he was doing at the first goal.

Second half he was a different man, played very well I thought. More of the latter please.

Yeah, I thought he was outstanding in the second half - notable positive contributions at both ends. Much more like it.

His role in the first goal was significant though. Grim.

I don’t “get” our defence. They look reasonable, yet every single one of them seems to have a costly mistake that costs points in them at almost any time. I don’t know where David Gray goes with that.

[Nicho87]

Gets his contract extension

No direct competitor for left back, I’m no believing cadden is a left back, he’s a winger

With the above said I’m not shocked his form has dropped

[judas]

The best left back and my favourite I seen… https://youtu.be/ygk1dpyrE5I?feature=shared

This.

[California-Hibs]

Absolute clown!! Such an obvious, stupid, blatant penalty on the bloody 90th minute, and what makes it worse is he's spoiled it for the whole team, because to a man Hibs played really well today!

[Paul1642]

He’s been crap all season but that was inexcusable. No way he should start next game.

[LaMotta]

:brickwall:brickwall:brickwall

[Northernhibee]

Madness to let Stevenson go. He’s country miles better than Obita.

[LaMotta]

Absolute clown!! Such an obvious, stupid, blatant penalty on the bloody 90th minute, and what makes it worse is he's spoiled it for the whole team, because to a man Hibs played really well today!

He was doing stuff like this last season but people generally ignored it for some reason. Shouldn't be a surprise.

[Jim44]

He’s a decent player but makes too many mistakes.

[Northernhibee]

He’s a decent player but makes too many mistakes.

That’s not the definition of a decent player.

[hibsbollah]

Lets not pretend he wasnt good last season though. No competition for his place. A break on the sidelines might give him some motivation.

[Paul1642]

He’s a decent player but makes too many mistakes.

You could say the same about Rocky and he’s rightly relegated to the bench right now. Obita to join him please.

[ChuckNor]

He has been absolutely rotten this season. Hopefully Iredale can challenge him for that left back spot because my god was he poor again. A shocking decision at the end.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Get him tae **** 😡

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

We have no cover for left back. Incredibly bad recruitment by Hibs.

[Allant1981]

Madness to let Stevenson go. He’s country miles better than Obita.

Wasn't madness to let stevenson go imo, time was right, the problem was not replacing him

[Gmack7]

Is Macintyre not highly rated, we need to try him

[degenerated]

We have no cover for left back. Incredibly bad recruitment by Hibs.Jack Iredale, no?

[Northernhibee]

Wasn't madness to let stevenson go imo, time was right, the problem was not replacing him

It was madness, all for the golden quadrants latest giddy adventure of something about average squad age and all that.

[LaMotta]

Lets not pretend he wasnt good last season though. No competition for his place. A break on the sidelines might give him some motivation.

He was decent for periods last season, but cost us hugely in a number of games. Aberdeen semi shocking for the goal, Rangers cup game, a pen and a red card, St Mirren away - another pen. Today's is absolutely dreadful. He's been partly or fully to blame for at least 4 goals this season so far. Its ridiculous.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Jack Iredale, no?

Sorry, just picking up as been away this weekend. Isn't he a centre back?

[degenerated]

Sorry, just picking up as been away this weekend. Isn't he a centre back?Plays both left back and left centre back. 28137

[Vault Boy]

Needs dropped immediately. Has had a nightmare start to the season.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Plays both left back and left centre back. 28137

Fair enough. Hopefully can challenge Obita then. He needs dropped.

[blackpoolhibs]

Lets not pretend he wasnt good last season though. No competition for his place. A break on the sidelines might give him some motivation.

I'm not pretending he wasnt good last season, he was very average to poor on occasions. Tombola POTY award in my opinion.

[Paul1642]

We would be joint 6th right now on 3x our current points tally if not for his two mistakes in two games.

[HendoDelivered]

It’s just boring from him now.

[hibsbollah]

He was decent for periods last season, but cost us hugely in a number of games. Aberdeen semi shocking for the goal, Rangers cup game, a pen and a red card, St Mirren away - another pen. Today's is absolutely dreadful. He's been partly or fully to blame for at least 4 goals this season so far. Its ridiculous.

I have no problem giving Megwa a run instead, agree he needs dropped. We’ve said this about big Marvs mistakes and hes been immense today. Form will come and go with these players. We need to recruit a higher level of player if we want more consistency.

[hibsbollah]

I'm not pretending he wasnt good last season, he was very average to poor on occasions. Tombola POTY award in my opinion.

But the consensus on here was it was a fair award, it was between him or Maolida.

[blackpoolhibs]

But the consensus on here was it was a fair award, it was between him or Maolida.

They were wrong. :wink:

[LaMotta]

I have no problem giving Megwa a run instead, agree he needs dropped. We’ve said this about big Marvs mistakes and hes been immense today. Form will come and go with these players. We need to recruit a higher level of player if we want more consistency.

It's criminal that we haven't got a proper left back alternative to him, as you say lack of competition can't be good for him.

[jeffers]

But the consensus on here was it was a fair award, it was between him or Maolida.

It was more a reflection on how inconsistent everyone else was than Obita being particularly great imo. For an experienced player some of the mistakes he makes are ridiculous.

[LaMotta]

But the consensus on here was it was a fair award, it was between him or Maolida.


They were wrong. :wink:

It was the consensus, but there were def some people questioning that consensus. It was a bit like the year Cadden got POTY for doing very little. Signs of dreadful seasons.

[Is It On....]

It's criminal that we haven't got a proper left back alternative to him, as you say lack of competition can't be good for him.

What about that lad Stevenson at Raith Rovers 🤔😂

[hibsbollah]

What about that lad Stevenson at Raith Rovers 🤔😂

Too young and inexperienced

[Donegal Hibby]

But the consensus on here was it was a fair award, it was between him or Maolida.

If it was between him and Maolida then he shouldn’t have got it .

[cabbageandribs1875]

time out for some "resetting" for Obita won't stop him having a rush of blood to the head/rash moments

and having "competition" won't either

[B.H.F.C]

Must be dropped for the St Johnstone game. He’s been shocking this season.

[Fratelli]

Killie players were throwing themselves to the deck all game and Obita had to clearly pull-out of the challenge and not give the ref a decision to make.

So frustrating…

[Unseen work]

I think he was unlucky.

By the time he turned Anderson was running across him, I don’t think he put in a challenge as such. Clumsy more than anything

I’m more annoyed how a 40 yard pass managed to get into Anderson who was right inbetween our two centre halves - thought O’Hora’s positioning looked off

[Allant1981]

I think he was unlucky.

By the time he turned Anderson was running across him, I don’t think he put in a challenge as such. Clumsy more than anything

I’m more annoyed how a 40 yard pass managed to get into Anderson who was right inbetween our two centre halves - thought O’Hora’s positioning looked off

Obita was very poor positionally

[LaMotta]

I think he was unlucky.

By the time he turned Anderson was running across him, I don’t think he put in a challenge as such. Clumsy more than anything

I’m more annoyed how a 40 yard pass managed to get into Anderson who was right inbetween our two centre halves - thought O’Hora’s positioning looked off

Agree about the pass, but come on, that was absolutely shocking from him today.

[JimBHibees]

Killie players were throwing themselves to the deck all game and Obita had to clearly pull-out of the challenge and not give the ref a decision to make.

So frustrating…

Yep especially when there was cover

[JimBHibees]

We have no cover for left back. Incredibly bad recruitment by Hibs.

Just bought a left back

[hhibs]

Drop him now a shadow of last seasons player,a liability and getting worse.

[jeffers]

Drop him now a shadow of last seasons player,a liability and getting worse.

At least we didn’t give him a new contract. Oh wait…

[Boyle89]

I think it's quite obvious the iredale boy has been brought in to provide competition/replace obita. I think this highlights the need to have the squad ready before deadline day. I find it annoying that we didn't have another lb in before then, especially given obitas horrific start to the season.

[JimBHibees]

At least we didn’t give him a new contract. Oh wait…

Did we? How long?

[jeffers]

Did we? How long?

Signed one in March keeping him at the club til 2026.

[JimBHibees]

Signed one in March keeping him at the club til 2026.

Ok fair enough don’t mind him but no doubt he has started the season poorly

[RIP]

Yep especially when there was cover

Dave Gray said same on Hibs TV

[Alfred E Newman]

Obita seems to be turning into the new Hibs net whipping boy. Fair enough, he’s not had a great start to the season but he is not the only one that is culpable. There is obviously still a defensive frailty throughout the team but it sounded as if we were much better today and hopefully we can kick on from here.

[JohnM1875]

Obita seems to be turning into the new Hibs net whipping boy. Fair enough, he’s not had a great start to the season but he is not the only one that is culpable. There is obviously still a defensive frailty throughout the team but it sounded as if we were much better today and hopefully we can kick on from here.

He was awful today. It's nothing to do with being a 'whipping boy'. He's been dreadful so far this season and will be criticised because of that on a fan forum.

[Paul1642]

Obita seems to be turning into the new Hibs net whipping boy. Fair enough, he’s not had a great start to the season but he is not the only one that is culpable. There is obviously still a defensive frailty throughout the team but it sounded as if we were much better today and hopefully we can kick on from here.

He’s not the whipping boy, that’s reserved for Joe Newell right now.

He’s cost us two goals and two wins in two game. Today’s mistake was as stupid as any I’ve seen. He’s also not been great even discounting the mistakes. The message needs to be clear that you don’t keep your place in the team if you play like this.

I’m not calling for him to be dropped forever or hounded out the club. Just a spell on the sidelines give someone else a chance to do better. It’s probably in so it’s best interest as well.

[high bee]

Really frustrating to watch that mistake but he is only human and it’s always easier when you have the camera angles so he maybe didn’t appreciate that there was cover and he was desperate and panicking trying to stop another late goal. I feel for him as we’ve all got a mistake in us when the pressure is on.

Felt more hopeful about the team performance after the 2nd half today so hopefully this will help him get back firing on all cylinders soon as he hasn’t looked himself this season.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Just bought a left back

I had said earlier, I thought Iredale was brought in as a CH rather than a LB.

[Shrekko]

Obita seems to be turning into the new Hibs net whipping boy. Fair enough, he’s not had a great start to the season but he is not the only one that is culpable. There is obviously still a defensive frailty throughout the team but it sounded as if we were much better today and hopefully we can kick on from here.

That today was absolutely inexcusable especially from an experienced player.

Anderson was throwing himself to the ground all day at the merest touch - same as their other forwards. There was only one outcome making a challenge like that. Ridiculous lack of judgement at time like that.

He needs dropped - simple as that.

[Hiber-nation]

Surely no-one is defending him for that today. Inexcusable and not for the first time.

What makes it so frustrating is that he can be really good. A few man of the match performances last season. But when he's bad he's really bad.

[B.H.F.C]

Just saw the penalty incident on Sportscene having only seen it from the other end of the park at the game.

It was ridiculous from Obita. Anderson would have had to do something incredible to score the way he was going and with Ekpiteta back in. Such a bad decision to not just stop and stay out the way.

[andrew_dundee]

He's had a few needless cards and given a few pointless dead ball situations. I think he's decent on the ball and on the attack, but he lacks the self-discipline to be a reliable defender.

[WestStandWillie]

DG needs to sit him down and work out where his head's at.

He's just not been at the races this season. We know what he's capable off but he misfired a fair few times last season and has completely stalled this season.

[Greenbeard]

Lets not pretend he wasnt good last season though. No competition for his place. A break on the sidelines might give him some motivation.
A lack of motivation wasn't what caused him to give away a daft penalty. Lack of concentration maybe.
But was the Killie boy not offside when the ball was played through, so effectively he was out of the game making Obita's challenge irrelevant? Why didn't VAR look at that?

[BILLYHIBS]

Lets not pretend he wasnt good last season though. No competition for his place. A break on the sidelines might give him some motivation.
Aberdeen home 0-4 was not a highlight stood on the ball for the second sold a dummy for the third and MIA for the fourth

As I mentioned at the time he cannae defend decent going forward but forgets to come back

[MWHIBBIES]

Aberdeen home 0-4 was not a highlight stood on the ball for the second sold a dummy for the third and MIA for the fourth

As I mentioned at the time he cannae defend decent going forward but forgets to come back

He can defend. He doesn't do it perfectly every time. But he is capable of doing it.

[K-Zazu]

At his previous club im pretty sure he was playing as an attacking left mid. Don’t think he’s that great as a left back.

[hibsbollah]

Aberdeen home 0-4 was not a highlight stood on the ball for the second sold a dummy for the third and MIA for the fourth

As I mentioned at the time he cannae defend decent going forward but forgets to come back

It’s getting silly if we’re drawing up individual mistakes to prove a point, Van Dyke or Saliba make them too. Obita has had a poor start to the season, we all agree. He also had a good season last year which shows he can do it again. People were actually paying attention when he won PTOY. They watched the Rangers game when hegot sent off and lost his cool and thought he deserved it anyway. These two things can both be true without reinventing history.

[BILLYHIBS]

He can defend. He doesn't do it perfectly every time. But he is capable of doing it.

He has not been great defensively this season so far he will know that himself even his fans are saying he should be dropped

[BILLYHIBS]

It’s getting silly if we’re drawing up individual mistakes to prove a point, Van Dyke or Saliba make them too. Obita has had a poor start to the season, we all agree. He also had a good season last year which shows he can do it again. People were actually paying attention when he won PTOY. They watched the Rangers game when hegot sent off and lost his cool and thought he deserved it anyway. These two things can both be true without reinventing history.

Maolida would have been my shout but there we are

[Donegal Hibby]

He can defend. He doesn't do it perfectly every time. But he is capable of doing it.

More often than not somebody else has to cover for him because he’s caught out of position , last season it happened time and time again . Now this season it’s there to be seen again though this time Rocky isn’t in the team to take the flak for it .

[CentreLine]

Madness to let Stevenson go. He’s country miles better than Obita.

Hate to rain on the parade of a club legend but Stevenson gave away a shed load of penalties in the latter stages of his time with us.

[LaMotta]

Hate to rain on the parade of a club legend but Stevenson gave away a shed load of penalties in the latter stages of his time with us.

I don't remember too many. Can you remind us of them?

[BILLYHIBS]

I don't remember too many. Can you remind us of them?

Was thinking the exact same we conceded 10 penalties 2023/24 3 of which were missed 7 converted cannot remember Lewis being culpable for any but might be wrong he played 24 times last season but only started 17

Edit :

Penalties conceded when Lewis has been playing 2023/24

St Mirren H Newell

Aston Villa H Lewis

Celtic A Lewis

[LaMotta]

Was thinking the exact same we conceded 10 penalties 2023/24 3 of which were missed 7 converted cannot remember Lewis being culpable for any but might be wrong he played 24 times last season but only started 17

Edit :

Penalties conceded when Lewis has been playing 2023/24

St Mirren H Newell

Aston Villa H Lewis

Celtic A Lewis

Cheers for that. Villa one was a clear foul, but the Celtic decision was a joke. Obita's 3 in the last 10 months have all been horrendous as he clumsily fouled the attacker each time.

[wookie70]

Was thinking the exact same we conceded 10 penalties 2023/24 3 of which were missed 7 converted cannot remember Lewis being culpable for any but might be wrong he played 24 times last season but only started 17

Edit :

Penalties conceded when Lewis has been playing 2023/24

St Mirren H Newell

Aston Villa H Lewis

Celtic A Lewis

Lewis struggled with pace against the better players in his last season. He was still a much better option than Obita if our aim was to keep it tight and should have played more imo. If he was still here I suspect he may be in with a shout of coming in for the very out of form incumbent at left back. He isn't though and we really need someone to compete for that position. Hopefully Iredale can play left back as well as his more normal CH position