Get the Gordons out our club.

[blackpoolhibs]

Gtf.

[Vault Boy]

It’s been said they’ve turned down interest in the club before. Please, get on the phone to those parties and tell them you’ve had a change of heart. Killing this club with their stubborn, self-serving ignorance.

[NC1875]

Agree. They need to know we’re not happy. Talking about it on here isn’t enough.

We’ve been an utter shambles since they came in. GTF

[Broxburn Greens]

This, IG and BK need to be gone and gone now and the club lead by someone who realised this is real and not Football Manager they’re playing.


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[Kaiser_Sauzee]

Gormless Gordon will have another signing up his sleeve.

[Pretty Boy]

It's their ball so to speak.

I think the fans best chance in the short term is to build the pressure on the CEO. The issue there is even if we could successfully make his position untenable it probably means hitting the club financially and the replacement will be from the same ilk as the chairman and owner think he is fantastic.

[USA_Hibee]

They tried... Something? They failed at whatever that was. Time for the to realise this is not working out and leave.

[Northernhibee]

It's their ball so to speak.

I think the fans best chance in the short term is to build the pressure on the CEO. The issue there is even if we could successfully make his position untenable it probably means hitting the club financially and the replacement will be from the same ilk as the chairman and owner think he is fantastic.

Not a chance, Kensell is going nowhere seeing as how Ian is supposedly learning from him.

We are in the biggest crisis in years IMO.

[keep the faith]

First.Game.Of.Season

Welcome to knee jerk net.

[Northernhibee]

First.Game.Of.Season

Welcome to knee jerk net.

Not. One. Game. In. Isolation.

[Stokesy's on fire]

First.Game.Of.Season

Welcome to knee jerk net.

We lost 3 0 to St'Mirren and also lost a game to Kelty hearts...this is serious.

[blackpoolhibs]

It's their ball so to speak.

I think the fans best chance in the short term is to build the pressure on the CEO. The issue there is even if we could successfully make his position untenable it probably means hitting the club financially and the replacement will be from the same ilk as the chairman and owner think he is fantastic.

There needs to be pressure put on them, something like the one we had before at the back of the main stand a few years ago, doing nothing and sitting on our hands will give us more of the same, get these ****ers out by any mean possible.

[GreenCastle]

First.Game.Of.Season

Welcome to knee jerk net.

5th game of the season.



This isn’t a one off it’s months / years of rot.

[we are hibs]

First.Game.Of.Season

Welcome to knee jerk net.You're an idiot if you think this is a reaction to one game tbh.

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[Vault Boy]

First.Game.Of.Season

Welcome to knee jerk net.

Aye, certainly nothing to do with the full context of 5 years of Gordon ownership or anything 🥴

[we are hibs]

Kensell acts as a shield to Ian Gordon. One of the main reasons he's still here. That and his 350k a year.


Ian Gordon is a massive problem.

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[J-C]

Hate saying this but Ron's passing was the worse thing that could've happened to the club, he was the main business head in the family with his son Ian given a minor role at the club to learn the trade so to speak. Unfortunately we ended up with a rookie owner and his mother who didn't know a thing about football, with a CEO who is getting paid far too much for doing his job and interfering too much in the footballing side.

[makaveli1875]

First.Game.Of.Season

Welcome to knee jerk net.

Kinda warranted we were shocking today , that team looks garbage , can't defend. Midfield do **** all and we can't score . It's a recipe for disaster

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

I’ve said it for a few years now, I don’t doubt their intentions but they’re not fit to run a football club.


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[Lee Marvin]

We have added another £1k to Kensalls bank account today (TODAY)

[blackpoolhibs]

Hate saying this but Ron's passing was the worse thing that could've happened to the club, he was the main business head in the family with his son Ian given a minor role at the club to learn the trade so to speak. Unfortunately we ended up with a rookie owner and his mother who didn't know a thing about football, with a CEO who is getting paid far too much for doing his job and interfering too much in the footballing side.

Nah, he was clueless too, he's the one who started the downfall of this club and just handed it over to people more qualified to doing it.

[Hibees1973]

Hate saying this but Ron's passing was the worse thing that could've happened to the club, he was the main business head in the family with his son Ian given a minor role at the club to learn the trade so to speak. Unfortunately we ended up with a rookie owner and his mother who didn't know a thing about football, with a CEO who is getting paid far too much for doing his job and interfering too much in the footballing side.

Not sure how you can say this. There is absolutely no evidence Ron was getting things right up until he passed away.

Part of me admires the Gordon family for wanting to carry on in the honour of Ron but they have proved to be complete and utter failures. They appointed clowns like Kensell and a series of management teams who have all been a disaster.

Ian Gordon & Kensell have complicated matters further with the Black Knights deal, which on the surface, is not going well.

Yes, I would love a local, Edinburgh based owner with Hibs at heart but does this person exist. Maybe some consortium.

It appears there has been so much money flowing in and out of the club in the last few years but it appears a complete and utter shambles. Those responsible for this are The Gordons, Kensell & Malcolm McPherson.

I feel really sorry for David Gray and sadly I cannot see any other outcome other than his legendary status being tarnished with these other people in charge at Hibs.

[GreenGray]

They’ve ruined the club.

Ripped any sort of soul out of it, atmosphere around the place is brutal and they just come across so unprofessional.

I can’t describe how unbothered I am by the club at the moment which is sad.

I really hope more fans begin to realise how poor they are as owners.

[J-C]

Not sure how you can say this. There is absolutely no evidence Ron was getting things right up until he passed away.

Part of me admires the Gordon family for wanting to carry on in the honour of Ron but they have proved to be complete and utter failures. They appointed clowns like Kensell and a series of management teams who have all been a disaster.

Ian Gordon & Kensell have complicated matters further with the Black Knights deal, which on the surface, is not going well.

Yes, I would love a local, Edinburgh based owner with Hibs at heart but does this person exist. Maybe some consortium.

It appears there has been so much money flowing in and out of the club in the last few years but it appears a complete and utter shambles. Those responsible for this are The Gordons, Kensell & Malcolm McPherson.

I feel really sorry for David Gray and sadly I cannot see any other outcome other than his legendary status being tarnished with these other people in charge at Hibs.


I just feel Ron was clever enough to probably know when to either sell up or get someone in to help, he was the self made millionaire who had a vision, not his son Ian, yes he made mistakes but I feel Ian has leaned far too heavily on Kensall's shoulder and not for the betterment to the club, it's not a plaything for him but the lives of all the fans he's dealing with.

[Golden Bear]

Personally I blame the imposters on the park who masquerade as professional football players and can't do the job they're paid handsomely to do.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hate saying this but Ron's passing was the worse thing that could've happened to the club, he was the main business head in the family with his son Ian given a minor role at the club to learn the trade so to speak. Unfortunately we ended up with a rookie owner and his mother who didn't know a thing about football, with a CEO who is getting paid far too much for doing his job and interfering too much in the footballing side.

Ron started this.

[GreenGray]

I just feel Ron was clever enough to probably know when to either sell up or get someone in to help, he was the self made millionaire who had a vision, not his son Ian, yes he made mistakes but I feel Ian has leaned far too heavily on Kensall's shoulder and not for the betterment to the club, it's not a plaything for him but the lives of all the fans he's dealing with.

Exactly, Ron got involved because he wanted to.

Ian, a nepo child who has likely lived a hugely privileged life with no relevant experience has now been handed our club to **** around with, it’s genuinely scary.

If anyone has watched Succession before they’ll understand my worry, feels like we have Roman in charge.

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[A Hi-Bee]

Take over the Hibs please, lets get organised and start to put the maroon gimps back into the box.
we stick as we are and we going nowhere fast.

[JohnM1875]

Ron started this.

Ron was also a very successful businessman who wanted us to seek out investment. Difference between Ron and Ian is, when that investment was secured, I don't think Ron would have ignored their advice and caused friction months after the deal was signed.

[.Sean.]

We all need to calm down as at least the hospitality and the bars are minted, and we’ve got big screens and electronic advertising boards and umpteen different sponsors we never needed when we had a half decent team 🙄

[fiolex1]

Pedestrian football. I would’ve thought one attribute of Grays management would be to fight for the jersey.We were a soft touch devoid of any ideas or movement. Terrible!

[judas]

They’ve ruined the club.

Ripped any sort of soul out of it, atmosphere around the place is brutal and they just come across so unprofessional.

I can’t describe how unbothered I am by the club at the moment which is sad.

I really hope more fans begin to realise how poor they are as owners.

I’m frustrated as hell, but I think your post is disrespectful.

Ron Gordon’s passing was a tragedy and an unexpected one. It must have been a shock for his whole family. His son has a huge pressure, torn between honouring his dad’s legacy and committing to a project that isn’t really his and probably doesn’t capture his imagination the same way. All of this against a backdrop of his own grief.

I think holding up the Gordon name the way you have is a poor show. Not Hibs class.

[GreenGray]

I’m frustrated as hell, but I think your post is disrespectful.

Ron Gordon’s passing was a tragedy and an unexpected one. It must have been a shock for his whole family. His son has a huge pressure, torn between honouring his dad’s legacy and committing to a project that isn’t really his and probably doesn’t capture his imagination the same way. All of this against a backdrop of his own grief.

I think holding up the Gordon name that way you have is a poor show. Not Hibs class.

That’s incredibly harsh I think.

Tragic, awful situation but doesn’t mean that Ian can’t be criticised for what has transpired since.


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[Stuart93]

I’m frustrated as hell, but I think your post is disrespectful.

Ron Gordon’s passing was a tragedy and an unexpected one. It must have been a shock for his whole family. His son has a huge pressure, torn between honouring his dad’s legacy and committing to a project that isn’t really his and probably doesn’t capture his imagination the same way. All of this against a backdrop of his own grief.

I think holding up the Gordon name that way you have is a poor show. Not Hibs class.

It’s not a poor show at all, his post is bang on.

It was terribly sad that RG passed away but we aren’t allowed to criticise the job his laddie and the fraud he appointed as CEO are doing because of it?

Nonsense

We’re a sinking ship.

[judas]

It’s not a poor show at all, his post is bang on.

It was terribly sad that RG passed away but we aren’t allowed to criticise the job his laddie and the fraud he appointed as CEO are doing because of it?

Nonsense

We’re a sinking ship.

I’ve not said we can’t criticise. I’m just saying there’s better way of putting it across than ‘Get The Gordon’s Out’.

[Joe6-2]

I’ve not said we can’t criticise. I’m just saying there’s better way of putting it across that ‘Get The Gordon’s Out’.

That’s what’s required though

[GreenGray]

I’ve not said we can’t criticise. I’m just saying there’s better way of putting it across that ‘Get The Gordon’s Out’.

Did you respond to the wrong post then? I didn’t even mention their name.


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[MWHIBBIES]

Ron was also a very successful businessman who wanted us to seek out investment. Difference between Ron and Ian is, when that investment was secured, I don't think Ron would have ignored their advice and caused friction months after the deal was signed.

Ron was an idiot who hired his son and Ben Kensell. Lets say it like it is. He was dreadful at running this club and his son has continued that.

[MWHIBBIES]

Pedestrian football. I would’ve thought one attribute of Grays management would be to fight for the jersey.We were a soft touch devoid of any ideas or movement. Terrible!

Plenty fight first half, we were much the better side. Dunno what the **** happened 2nd half.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Do we know of any individuals or groups out there that could make them an opening gambit?

If I thought that there were people out there who might be prepared, either now or in the future, to make a bid to buy out the Gordon's then it would give me some hope in the doom laden months that are ahead of us.

[ChuckNor]

Surely time to make our feelings known? Can’t believe the fans haven’t organised something to tell Kensell how far to **** he should be away from the club.

[Hibee Mac]

Our downard spiral began long before Ron Gordon's passing

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[JohnM1875]

Ron was an idiot who hired his son and Ben Kensell. Lets say it like it is. He was dreadful at running this club and his son has continued that.

Wow, calling a dead man an idiot and comparing fans to the folk who rioted down south on another thread. Top posting.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Ron was an idiot who hired his son and Ben Kensell. Lets say it like it is. He was dreadful at running this club and his son has continued that.

You must be so proud of this post. Shame on you.

[Coco Bryce]

Ron was an idiot who hired his son and Ben Kensell. Lets say it like it is. He was dreadful at running this club and his son has continued that.


Deary me.

[MWHIBBIES]

You must be so proud of this post. Shame on you.

Not at all. Shame on those running our club into the ground. He set it in motion. He had no idea what he was doing. A woeful owner.

[Since90+2]

Ron was an idiot who hired his son and Ben Kensell. Lets say it like it is. He was dreadful at running this club and his son has continued that.

Wow. How you've not been banned from this forum with years of posts like this is beyond me.

An idiot? He took the club on and started the process of improving our commercial side before he clearly entered very ill health.

Absolute shocker of a post.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Not at all. Shame on those running our club into the ground. He set it in motion. He had no idea what he was doing. A woeful owner.

Totally agree.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Not at all. Shame on those running our club into the ground. He set it in motion. He had no idea what he was doing. A woeful owner.

And you're an expert in running a business with a£10 million plus turnover ?

Feel sorry for you actually 😕

[Stokesy's on fire]

Wow. How you've not been banned from this forum with years of posts like this is beyond me.

An idiot? He took the club on and started the process of improving our commercial side before he clearly entered very ill health.

Absolute shocker of a post.


That's the problem the commercial side doesn't win football matches.

[DarlingtonHibee]

That's the problem the commercial side doesn't win football matches.

Just to help you out....

More income means more budget for players.
.

[judas]

Did you respond to the wrong post then? I didn’t even mention their name.


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It’s the thread title mate?!?!?!

[we are hibs]

And you're an expert in running a business with a£10 million plus turnover ?

Feel sorry for you actually [emoji53]Is Ian Gordon an expert in running a business with a 10 million plus turnover?

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[MWHIBBIES]

Wow. How you've not been banned from this forum with years of posts like this is beyond me.

An idiot? He took the club on and started the process of improving our commercial side before he clearly entered very ill health.

Absolute shocker of a post.

I don't think it is against any rules to call our former owner an idiot. If it is, I will of course delete the post.

He ''took the club on''. Mate, the club isn't an orphaned child. He believed he could take over a club performing quite well (cup win, promotion, European games) and take it further. He wasn't doing us a favor, he thought he could make money. He basically undone all that work within a year (Leeann and what was left of her team binned) and hired a total circus.

[Since90+2]

That's the problem the commercial side doesn't win football matches.

Why do you think Hearts are ahead of us just now? Why have Celtic and Rangers dominated Scottish football for generations?

Because they have the most money which is driven primarily by their commercial income.

Ron Gordon was a good owner for us, if this is now the level of debate and shaming a man who, not that long after buying us, was battling cancer then folk need to take a look at themselves.

[BlackSheep]

Our downard spiral began long before Ron Gordon's passing

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Indeed it did but Ron did show grit when needed and sacked a few managers who underperformed… we are now left with his son and his wife, both with little to no experience in running a football club and have their hearts in the right place…. To our club’s detriment!! The problem is they probably think they’re doing all the right things in memory of their family member…. But are most likely blinded by HIS ambitions and it’s causing chaos.

I also feel that Kensell is only still here cos he is a good snake oil salesman to the Gordon family…. Hopefully they start to hear the discontent within the support and do something about it…. Namely getting rid of the poisonous Kensell.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Is Ian Gordon an expert in running a business with a 10 million plus turnover?

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He's not running the club, he's the Owner

[MWHIBBIES]

Why do you think Hearts are ahead of us just now? Why have Celtic and Rangers dominated Scottish football for generations?

Because they have the most money which is driven primarily by their commercial income.

Ron Gordon was a good owner for us, if this is now the level of debate and shaming a man who, not that long after buying us, was battling cancer then folk need to take a look at themselves.

Hearts were in the ****ing championship and we were 3rd. Its not commercial income that is the difference. Its us being run dreadfully and them not.

[judas]

Ron was an idiot who hired his son and Ben Kensell. Lets say it like it is. He was dreadful at running this club and his son has continued that.

Oh dear, that’s truly dire.

I feel sure that Ron had a far higher IQ than you do.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Just to help you out....

More income means more budget for players.
.

Oh...so st'mirren and killie made Europe based on the commercial aspect of their clubs?

[Since90+2]

Oh dear, that’s truly dire.

I feel sure that Ron had a far higher IQ than you do.

I think that's a post that will probably unite this forum for one time only.

[MWHIBBIES]

Oh dear, that’s truly dire.

I feel sure that Ron had a far higher IQ than you do.

Absolutely no doubt he did. Clearly not a bad businessman. Dreadful football club owner.

[TrinityHFC]

Not at all. Shame on those running our club into the ground. He set it in motion. He had no idea what he was doing. A woeful owner.

I think there’s a way to get that point across without calling someone who I think was a good man with good intentions an idiot now that he’s not here.

[MWHIBBIES]

I think there’s a way to get that point across without calling someone who I think was a good man with good intentions an idiot now that he’s not here.

In my defense, I thought it when he was here too.

I'm so glad he had good intentions. That will keep me warm as Hearts go further ahead of us, heading into their 2nd European groupstage campaign in 3 years.

So happy he bought us.

[K-Zazu]

Maybe we should have listened to Foley?

[DarlingtonHibee]

In my defense, I thought it when he was here too.

I'm so glad he had good intentions. That will keep me warm as Hearts go further ahead of us, heading into their 2nd European groupstage campaign in 3 years.

So happy he bought us.

Admins. How about getting this ******** off the forum Handing down blaten abuse and insulting remarks about a fine man who succumbed to cancer

[Since90+2]

In my defense, I thought it when he was here too.

I'm so glad he had good intentions. That will keep me warm as Hearts go further ahead of us, heading into their 2nd European groupstage campaign in 3 years.

So happy he bought us.

Are you not capable of articulating a point about your thoughts on his ownership without resulting to insulting him?

The term you used earlier to describe Ron Gordon perhaps isn't that far from home.

[Is It On....]

Wow. How you've not been banned from this forum with years of posts like this is beyond me.

An idiot? He took the club on and started the process of improving our commercial side before he clearly entered very ill health.

Absolute shocker of a post.

He also sacked Mathie and, after a global search, appointed a former wine salesman to lead up player recruitment. At the time, those who objected to that move were in the minority.

However, we just need to hope that our new manager and his new boss will get things to click sooner rather than later.

RG rectifying the mistake of placing someone so inexperienced as head of recruitment is something we will never know.

[MWHIBBIES]

Admins. How about getting this ******** off the forum Handing down blaten abuse and insulting remarks about a fine man who succumbed to cancer

Again, I've really no problem with the man. I wish he'd lived a long and happy life and never came near Hibernian FC. What is wrong with that?


Are you not capable of articulating a point about your thoughts on his ownership without resulting to insulting him?

Perhaps you are right. What did he do for Hibs that was good? How has he, or his employees Ian and Ben, taken us forward? its been an absolute disaster.

[Lago]

I’ve not said we can’t criticise. I’m just saying there’s better way of putting it across than ‘Get The Gordon’s Out’.
But that's not what said, we all have sympathy but they are not doing a good job, time to go.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Again, I've really no problem with the man. I wish he'd lived a long and happy life and never came near Hibernian FC. What is wrong with that?



Perhaps you are right. What did he do for Hibs that was good? How has he, or his employees Ian and Ben, taken us forward? its been an absolute disaster.

Coaching staff....makes sense now

[SHODAN]

At the time I had issues with Ron Gordon's ownership but he clearly had a plan to get us where he wanted to which I think was tragically derailed by his illness. Knowing now what I didn't then I don't think any ill of him or his strategy for the club.

This is solely about Ian and Kensell.

[Lago]

Deary me.
Here we go another dot net pile on:confused:

[Rob]

Ron started this.
spot on!

He dismantled the whole footballing structure thinking he knew better than the people already at the club. Leeann quit as she could clearly see the writing was on the wall, so decided to jump before she was pushed. We got BK as CEO as her replacement, and his son as Head of Recruitment. We still haven't sorted things out after 5 years.

[MWHIBBIES]

At the time I had issues with Ron Gordon's ownership but he clearly had a plan to get us where he wanted to which I think was tragically derailed by his illness. Knowing now what I didn't then I don't think any ill of him or his strategy for the club.

This is solely about Ian and Kensell.

Who hired Ian and Kensell?

[NC1875]

Why do you think Hearts are ahead of us just now? Why have Celtic and Rangers dominated Scottish football for generations?

Because they have the most money which is driven primarily by their commercial income.

Ron Gordon was a good owner for us, if this is now the level of debate and shaming a man who, not that long after buying us, was battling cancer then folk need to take a look at themselves.

I don’t agree with calling him an idiot. But to say Ron was a good owner for us is a stretch of the imagination. It’s been a downward spiral from day one!

[davym7062]

Hate saying this but Ron's passing was the worse thing that could've happened to the club, he was the main business head in the family with his son Ian given a minor role at the club to learn the trade so to speak. Unfortunately we ended up with a rookie owner and his mother who didn't know a thing about football, with a CEO who is getting paid far too much for doing his job and interfering too much in the footballing side.

he sacked jack ross after beating the huns in the semi off the cup,,,

[Since90+2]

I don’t agree with calling him an idiot. But to say Ron was a good owner for us is a stretch of the imagination. It’s been a downward spiral from day one!

Whilst Ron was alive and owner historically Hibs were about were we always were, probably better in the cups than most years. There wasn't a spiral from day one, that's nonsense.

Not sure you can start blaming him for the downfall after he was diagnosed with an ultimately fatal disease.

[Lago]

Who hired Ian and Kensell?
Sometimes the truth is unpalatable for some folk.

[SHODAN]

Who hired Ian and Kensell?

Who sold the club to Ron?

[davym7062]

Again, I've really no problem with the man. I wish he'd lived a long and happy life and never came near Hibernian FC. What is wrong with that?



Perhaps you are right. What did he do for Hibs that was good? How has he, or his employees Ian and Ben, taken us forward? its been an absolute disaster.

u are bang on.. utter shambles. get them out my club

[Smartie]

Ron was an idiot who hired his son and Ben Kensell. Lets say it like it is. He was dreadful at running this club and his son has continued that.

Folk like Ron though understand the importance of adapting and learning. His redemption arc was cut cruelly short and I think he’d have got there in the end.

In my opinion his biggest mistake was in relation to the introduction of his son. Sneaking him in the back door and having a secretive role relative to recruitment threw him under the bus in a way that I don’t think will ever allow his credibility to recover in the eyes of a number of our supporters.

Ron was happy to take the acclaim as an individual and did his son no favours imo.

[Steve20]

No. Don’t be so negative. You’re not allowed to be concerned about the club without being called a negative ****.

Things are great eh!????

[mcohibs]

First.Game.Of.Season

Welcome to knee jerk net.

Wake up.

[matty_f]

I'm not bothered about seeing the Gordons go - I think from day one their intentions for the club have been good. What has been completely clear though, is that they do not know how to run a football club, and the best thing that they can do for all involved is to take a back seat, give control to folk who are qualified and equipped to run the club, and enjoy being owners of a club that is set up for some good times under their ownership.

The longer they are involved in setting strategy, signing players or managers, or whatever other decisions they get involved with, the more harm they do.

There is a win/win for people here. Own the club and let someone competent run it.

[snedzuk]

I've decided to support the Golden Quadrangle of Strapadictomes or whatever it's called on the basis that if they bull**** enough someone else might hire them.

[NAE NOOKIE]

When Ron Gordon took over this club I posted that he had to be aware that the time will come ... as it does with practically every club owner ... where he would be the target for disgruntled fans.

That time has come and even though it's not Ron who will be that target we have now reached the point where it's not the manager or even the players who are going to get the blame for what we are on the park.

Enough is enough now and if they have any sense the Gordon's will start looking to actively sell the club. Commercially, yes 10/10 .... as owners of a club that needs to be a success on the park 0/10. Time to go.

[greenpaper55]

What a stupid thread, shouting for the Gordons to just go and walk away from their investments. How about all you bed wetters opening your piggy banks and come up with some of YOUR cash and put your money where your mouth is ? FFS we lost one league game with half a new team and a new manager and you want everyone sacked ! You all need to get a grip !

[mcohibs]

What a stupid thread, shouting for the Gordons to just go and walk away from their investments. How about all you bed wetters opening your piggy banks and come up with some of YOUR cash and put your money where your mouth is ? FFS we lost one league game with half a new team and a new manager and you want everyone sacked ! You all need to get a grip !

Have you been asleep for the last five years?

[hibsfan]

Ron will be turning in his grave at what his family are doing with the club. They need to go.

However - our fans are also part of the issue. Seeing ER Half empty every week is soul destroying and must be for the players too. If you are not at ER next weekend (and could be) - you are part of the problem.

Hate to say it - but Hearts fans wouldn’t accept it - yet they still go to games. Place is almost full every week - even when they aren’t doing so well.

[JohnM1875]

What a stupid thread, shouting for the Gordons to just go and walk away from their investments. How about all you bed wetters opening your piggy banks and come up with some of YOUR cash and put your money where your mouth is ? FFS we lost one league game with half a new team and a new manager and you want everyone sacked ! You all need to get a grip !

The Gordon family have to sell up in my opinion. They honestly don't have a clue on how to run a football club. It really isn't just about that loss today either. They should have looked to sell up as soon as Ron passed away.

[BoomtownHibees]

What a stupid thread, shouting for the Gordons to just go and walk away from their investments. How about all you bed wetters opening your piggy banks and come up with some of YOUR cash and put your money where your mouth is ? FFS we lost one league game with half a new team and a new manager and you want everyone sacked ! You all need to get a grip !

Half a new team? We played 2 new outfield players and 1 young guy out of position. The rest were the same pish we’ve been watching for far too long

[paddy1875]

Ron will be turning in his grave at what his family are doing with the club. They need to go.

However - our fans are also part of the issue. Seeing ER Half empty every week is soul destroying and must be for the players too. If you are not at ER next weekend (and could be) - you are part of the problem.

Hate to say it - but Hearts fans wouldn’t accept it - yet they still go to games. Place is almost full every week - even when they aren’t doing so well.

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

I’ll work all week to then contribute to the salary of a CEO being overly paid to destroy the product I’m actually paying for. Ok bud cheers


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[hibsfan]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

I’ll work all week to then contribute to the salary of a CEO being overly paid to destroy the product I’m actually paying for. Ok bud cheers


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…oh dear.

Kind of proves my point though. We will just keep going round and round and finding the same solution as long as that’s our argument.

[Stuart93]

What a stupid thread, shouting for the Gordons to just go and walk away from their investments. How about all you bed wetters opening your piggy banks and come up with some of YOUR cash and put your money where your mouth is ? FFS we lost one league game with half a new team and a new manager and you want everyone sacked ! You all need to get a grip !

Well in that case, I hope you’re enjoying it

[Stuart93]

Ron will be turning in his grave at what his family are doing with the club. They need to go.

However - our fans are also part of the issue. Seeing ER Half empty every week is soul destroying and must be for the players too. If you are not at ER next weekend (and could be) - you are part of the problem.

Hate to say it - but Hearts fans wouldn’t accept it - yet they still go to games. Place is almost full every week - even when they aren’t doing so well.

Of course, it’s the fans fault.

Not the fault of the club or players performances that have caused many to feel apathy towards the club.

Winning the Scottish cup, winning the championship and playing half decent football with players who cared about the club put bums on seats. ER was packed most weeks.

What are you expecting? Fans to turn up in numbers to watch the ***** that’s on show now? Na, no thanks.

People are seeing through the incumbents in charge of the club now.

[NC1875]

…oh dear.

Kind of proves my point though. We will just keep going round and round and finding the same solution as long as that’s our argument.

When the players can’t be arsed to turn up. Time and time again. Why should we turn up to support them. And line the pockets of the clowns running the club in the process. Enough is enough

[JohnM1875]

When the players can’t be arsed to turn up. Time and time again. Why should we turn up to support them. And line the pockets of the clowns running the club in the process. Enough is enough

Absolutely. Especially the ridiculous prices that we charge (Not just Hibs though, I know)

[paddy1875]

…oh dear.

Kind of proves my point though. We will just keep going round and round and finding the same solution as long as that’s our argument.

I’m not arguing mate, you’ve marked the fans down as part of the problem. I’m telling you why I’ll not be paying money to watch hibs at the minute?

Others not going might move this along quicker, with a sale of the club or the inept CEO being removed. Who knows? Enjoy the game [emoji1303]


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[Since90+2]

When the players can’t be arsed to turn up. Time and time again. Why should we turn up to support them. And line the pockets of the clowns running the club in the process. Enough is enough

Is it the case they can't be bothered turning up or more likely they simply aren't good enough ability wise? Id be inclined to think it's the latter.

[Nicho87]

What’s important here is we have improved the fan matchday experience

[Stuart93]

I canny believe BK gave it the “trust the process” ***** after bringing in a player on loan for us to then get pumped like that today.

Does he really believe they’re cooking something up at the club other than inevitable relegation?

Almost everyone above SDG is so detached from the fan base it’s unreal.

Ripped the soul right out of the club

[NC1875]

I canny believe BK gave it the “trust the process” ***** after bringing in a player on loan for us to then get pumped like that today.

Does he really believe they’re cooking something up at the club other than inevitable relegation?

Almost everyone above SDG is so detached from the fan base it’s unreal.

Ripped the soul right out of the club

The guys an absolute twat with a massive ego. No clue about reality.

[ChuckNor]

We really need these muppets to go now. Fans were protesting for much less before. We are at that point surely.

[Stuart93]

We really need these muppets to go now. Fans were protesting for much less before. We are at that point surely.

I reckon fans are starting to care less and less which is a lot more dangerous for the club.

Apathy is well and truly set in

[Hibee Mac]

Mark my words, fans will be protesting by the end of this season and rightly so. We've seen more than enough from these owners.

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[.Sean.]

What’s important here is we have improved the fan matchday experience


Agreed, you know I really couldn’t get into the period under Stubbs and Lennon for example when we had a proper squad full of character and talent because the matchday experience was rubbish, for instance even take behind the goals, albeit free to get into and convenient, it needed a lick of paint and a new carpet so I didn’t enjoy going there. Bad times!

But now… wow! Big screens advertising all these world renowned sponsors we’ve got, a ridiculously loud tannoy system that makes the ears bleed with guffy chart music, the electronic ribbon, fireworks pre derbies and bars you need to pay 2 hunner quid for the privilege of entering… I love it, who cares we’re absolutely rank rotten on the park, the matchday experience more than makes up for it!

Kensell must stay and the wine merchant/ head of recruitment can scout and sign his overpaid project pish all day for as long as the matchday experience keeps mesmerising me every other weekend!

[GreenGray]

It’s the thread title mate?!?!?!

Mate, you responded to me? I didn’t start the thread.


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[Northernhibee]

Agreed, you know I really couldn’t get into the period under Stubbs and Lennon for example when we had a proper squad full of character and talent because the matchday experience was rubbish, for instance even take behind the goals, albeit free to get into and convenient, it needed a lick of paint and a new carpet so I didn’t enjoy going there. Bad times!

But now… wow! Big screens advertising all these world renowned sponsors we’ve got, a ridiculously loud tannoy system that makes the ears bleed with guffy chart music, the electronic ribbon, and bars you need to pay 2 hunner quid for the privilege of entering… I love it, who cares we’re absolutely rank rotten on the park, the matchday experience more than makes up for it!

Kensell must stay and the wine merchant/ head of recruitment can scout and sign all day so long as the matchday experience keeps mesmerising me every other weekend!

I really wish the club shop had less things in it and was more expensive when we won the Scottish Cup. Really took the shine off it for me.

[Hibees1973]

No doubt there will be silence this week from Ian Gordon and Ben Kensell on the Black Knights deal, the latest infractions from Block 7, etc.

A few weeks into the new season and it continues to be a farce on all things Hibs.

I don't recognise my club now. I'm signing off for a couple of weeks, as I've had enough for now. Some on here will be pleased.

[blackpoolhibs]

At the time I had issues with Ron Gordon's ownership but he clearly had a plan to get us where he wanted to which I think was tragically derailed by his illness. Knowing now what I didn't then I don't think any ill of him or his strategy for the club.

This is solely about Ian and Kensell.

What was that plan?

[marinello59]

What was that plan?

Good question.

[GreenCastle]

Mark my words, fans will be protesting by the end of this season and rightly so. We've seen more than enough from these owners.

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Fans will be protesting if we lose to Dundee at home.

That could easily be 4 losses in a row.

[cabbageandribs1875]

there's been a couple of 3-1 scorelines in paisley but today was the biggest defeat since season 1982/83- 3-0


:boo hoo:what have the Gordons done to us

[BoomtownHibees]

there's been a couple of 3-1 scorelines in paisley but today was the biggest defeat since season 1982/83- 3-0


:boo hoo:what have the Gordons done to us

13 goals we’ve lost in the last 5 games against them

[cabbageandribs1875]

13 goals we’ve lost in the last 5 games against them


sickening

[JimBHibees]

Personally I blame the imposters on the park who masquerade as professional football players and can't do the job they're paid handsomely to do.

So do i

[BoomtownHibees]

So do i

Its not the players fault they’re no good enough

[GreenCastle]

there's been a couple of 3-1 scorelines in paisley but today was the biggest defeat since season 1982/83- 3-0


:boo hoo:what have the Gordons done to us

It’s 6-0 the last 2 games against St Mirren.

Absolutely scandalous.

[JJP]

Ron will be turning in his grave at what his family are doing with the club. They need to go.

However - our fans are also part of the issue. Seeing ER Half empty every week is soul destroying and must be for the players too. If you are not at ER next weekend (and could be) - you are part of the problem.

Hate to say it - but Hearts fans wouldn’t accept it - yet they still go to games. Place is almost full every week - even when they aren’t doing so well.

Hibs are lucky any fans show up at all at this point. The leadership at the club have raised expectations with their rhetoric while consistently under performing. It’s not much fun supporting this club lately. Some of our worst results and performances have taken place when Easter Road has been full.

[chrisski33]

What can the fans actually do to make change happen and get the Gordons out?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Agreed, you know I really couldn’t get into the period under Stubbs and Lennon for example when we had a proper squad full of character and talent because the matchday experience was rubbish, for instance even take behind the goals, albeit free to get into and convenient, it needed a lick of paint and a new carpet so I didn’t enjoy going there. Bad times!

But now… wow! Big screens advertising all these world renowned sponsors we’ve got, a ridiculously loud tannoy system that makes the ears bleed with guffy chart music, the electronic ribbon, fireworks pre derbies and bars you need to pay 2 hunner quid for the privilege of entering… I love it, who cares we’re absolutely rank rotten on the park, the matchday experience more than makes up for it!

Kensell must stay and the wine merchant/ head of recruitment can scout and sign his overpaid project pish all day for as long as the matchday experience keeps mesmerising me every other weekend!

:agree:

Get the Gordon’s, and Ben Kensell, to ****.

They have been ****ing disastrous for our club in a footballing sense.

[Ozyhibby]

What can the fans actually do to make change happen and get the Gordons out?

Withdraw your custom. It’s the only way things ever change.
With a bit of luck Foley will consider buying a controlling stake.


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[Stuart93]

Withdraw your custom. It’s the only way things ever change.
With a bit of luck Foley will consider buying a controlling stake.


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I’ve said this for a while. You don’t want it to get to that stage but the only way the club will listen is when the fans stop turning up

But as long as they’re selling out hospitality bars etc etc nothing changes. They see that as a success

[ChuckNor]

One thing I’ll say for Ron Gordon is whenever he made a mistake he put his hands up. He would speak to the podcasts or the media and own it. He’d try and outline his vision as best he could. There was communication - it was crucial. Right now we are hearing nothing. We were promised the investment we received would be game changing. The only thing that has changed is we’ve gotten considerably worse. The fans haven’t been given an explanation as to why the investment isn’t resulting in what was promised. Kensell and Ian Gordon don’t realize they are at a critical point. The fans are done with them. They either lose them permanently or explain themselves.

[JJP]

Who do we trust to run the club? We have the Gordon’s who the support seem to have lost all faith with or The Black Knights who may fill the team with players like Nathan Moriah Welsh. The future doesn’t look very bright today.

[ChuckNor]

Who do we trust to run the club? We have the Gordon’s who the support seem to have lost all faith with or The Black Knights who may fill the team with players like Nathan Moriah Welsh. The future doesn’t look very bright today.

That is one of my concerns. That the Black Knights ultimately want to buy the club and turn it into a feeder for Bournemouth. As a result Hibs lose identity and become a training ground for young lads like NMW who aren’t ready for the English Premiership.

[HendoDelivered]

What can the fans actually do to make change happen and get the Gordons out?

Boycott games and/or mass protests outside the main stand. It’s genuinely gotten to that stage now.

[AgentDaleCooper]

Take over the Hibs please, lets get organised and start to put the maroon gimps back into the box.
we stick as we are and we going nowhere fast.

if we feel hibs are unrecognisable now, i'm not sure how being fully submerged into a franchise would help

[Forza Fred]

Malky Mackay seems to be exempt from criticism so far.

Yet Australia’s player of the year, Josh Nisbet, is apparently thought by him to be not good enough to play in our midfield.

Seriously?

[chrisski33]

Boycott games and/or mass protests outside the main stand. It’s genuinely gotten to that stage now.

Will it happen though!? No doubt the wee ultra neds will hijack it though.

[talcy]

That is one of my concerns. That the Black Knights ultimately want to buy the club and turn it into a feeder for Bournemouth. As a result Hibs lose identity and become a training ground for young lads like NMW who aren’t ready for the English Premiership.

Like many Hibees, I'm hurting and this is not the start to permanent Management I'd wanted for SDG. But without wanting to sound all doom & gloom, I honestly don't see what the difference is between the Gordon's business model and the Black Knights model. In both cases, clubs are just soulless vehicles for sellable commodities (i.e. players) to pass through and if you have multi-continent club networks - you hope to attract and recruit more valuable (allegedly more talented) players, in case one or two pay off. It just smacks of City Group or Red Bull on the cheap, with all focus on perceived potential sell on values as opposed to steady building / continuity that hopefully leads to on field success (as resources are limited). It's arrogant and foolish to think you can do what City Group or Red Bull do without looking at the connection between the on field success they achieve and the resources they have to do that. A player like Marcondes (whilst undoubtedly talented) is not going to make it at Bournemouth, never mind going to come on loan to Hibs and help us win something. Because of mentality. I would say the same of Youan sadly. But this is the kind of Poundland hand-me-down we are more likely than not going to get. All just in my humble view obviously.

[neil7908]

Malky Mackay seems to be exempt from criticism so far.

Yet Australia’s player of the year, Josh Nisbet, is apparently thought by him to be not good enough to play in our midfield.

Seriously?

I haven't seen Nisbet play anywhere near enough to comment on his abilities but I would say that the length of time it's taken (and still going) to get an offer he likes from a good level in Europe would suggest many clubs, some more successful in their transfer dealings than Hibs, are also clearly not interested.

The links I've read are Ross County and a 2nd Division club from Holland. So it's clearly not just us that are uncertain.

Maybe all these clubs are wrong and he'll be a star wherever he ends up but I don't think it's an accusation that you can just lay at Hibs.

[neil7908]

Who do we trust to run the club? We have the Gordon’s who the support seem to have lost all faith with or The Black Knights who may fill the team with players like Nathan Moriah Welsh. The future doesn’t look very bright today.

That's how I feel. The options on the table are really making me nervous.

Not at all happy with the current owners but I have major misgivings on the Black Knights and what their full ownership would mean for the club.

[Golden Bear]

So some are now wanting both the Gordons and the Black Knights out BUT what would happen next?

I hope someone has a Plan B somewhere? Right now the status quo is still my preferred option.

[SHODAN]

So some are now wanting both the Gordons and the Black Knights out BUT what would happen next?

I hope someone has a Plan B somewhere? Right now the status quo is still my preferred option.

Fan ownership.

[blackpoolhibs]

So some are now wanting both the Gordons and the Black Knights out BUT what would happen next?

I hope someone has a Plan B somewhere? Right now the status quo is still my preferred option.

I want the Gordons to sell up, can you give me one instance of anything football wise that they have improved since taking over?

I've no idea who may want to buy our club, but the status quo is getting us relegated in my opinion, maybe not this season but it's coming under them.

[Heisenberg]

Fan ownership.

We had the chance before and blew it, won’t happen now unless the club is in serious danger of going out of business like our neighbours were.

[nickwhibs]

Fan ownership.

Yes please

[Paulie Walnuts]

I haven't seen Nisbet play anywhere near enough to comment on his abilities but I would say that the length of time it's taken (and still going) to get an offer he likes from a good level in Europe would suggest many clubs, some more successful in their transfer dealings than Hibs, are also clearly not interested.

The links I've read are Ross County and a 2nd Division club from Holland. So it's clearly not just us that are uncertain.

Maybe all these clubs are wrong and he'll be a star wherever he ends up but I don't think it's an accusation that you can just lay at Hibs.

I’ve seen him play 4 or 5 times. He’s not good enough imo.

[BigKev]

Fan ownership.

There was no appetite before and there wouldn’t be again.

The uptake of the share issue was laughable. Literally a case of people not putting their money where their mouth is.

[greenpaper55]

I can’t believe what I’m reading on here, one league defeat and the place is in meltdown. Who would you rather own the club ,Farmer with Rod at the helm that gave us three seasons in a lower division ? Be careful what you wish for.

[Trinity Hibee]

I can’t believe what I’m reading on here, one league defeat and the place is in meltdown. Who would you rather own the club ,Farmer with Rod at the helm that gave us three seasons in a lower division ? Be careful what you wish for.

I would take Farmer and Rod every day of the week

[Paulie Walnuts]

I can’t believe what I’m reading on here, one league defeat and the place is in meltdown. Who would you rather own the club ,Farmer with Rod at the helm that gave us three seasons in a lower division ? Be careful what you wish for.

Ah yes, the classic ‘all this off the back of one defeat’ patter. You’d almost be forgiven for thinking we haven’t been run into the ground on the football side of things for years now.

As for Farmer and Petrie, I’d take those days back in a heartbeat.

[SHODAN]

We had the chance before and blew it, won’t happen now unless the club is in serious danger of going out of business like our neighbours were.

I'm not sure that's such an unlikely prospect.

[theonlywayisup]

Would love to hear Leeann Dempster's thoughts on the Gordon's. We were so much better organised when she was at Hibs.

[Brizo]

One thing I’ll say for Ron Gordon is whenever he made a mistake he put his hands up. He would speak to the podcasts or the media and own it. He’d try and outline his vision as best he could. There was communication - it was crucial. Right now we are hearing nothing. We were promised the investment we received would be game changing. The only thing that has changed is we’ve gotten considerably worse. The fans haven’t been given an explanation as to why the investment isn’t resulting in what was promised. Kensell and Ian Gordon don’t realize they are at a critical point. The fans are done with them. They either lose them permanently or explain themselves.


Pretty much agree with this although I also think there has been a certain amount of revisionism about Ron Gordon's tenure after his tragic and untimely passing away.

The Gordons wont be going anywhere until they decide it's time to go and while I respect their wish to continue their late fathers legacy it appears IG hasn't got the business acumen, charisma or communication skills his father had. I say "appears" because he is essentially invisible to us.

Our current owners and Board have shown a level of disdain towards us and been pretty arrogant and tone deaf on occasions when they choose to talk to us whether it's Kensells latest "trust the process" , the "game changing" comment or nonsense like the "golden quadrangle". Malcom McPherson who I'd hoped might be a bridge between the owners and us has been quite happy to burn those bridges.

An upturn in results will change the mood but the underlying Boardroom problems will remain. The unfortunate truth is we're like lots of fans from lots of clubs feeling increasingly disconnected and divorced from foreign owners who see football as primarily a business and us as numbers on a corporate spreadsheet.

[neil7908]

There was no appetite before and there wouldn’t be again.

The uptake of the share issue was laughable. Literally a case of people not putting their money where their mouth is.

We're in a serious cost of living crisis with interest rates high as they've been in my adult life, pay not catching up with inflation and the UK economy on life support. Wages in the UK are about where they were 17 years ago whilst everything else has increased massively in price.

The last thing I'd be doing in light of the above is knocking fans for not throwing money at a football club, especially one that has been talking for a while now about game changing investment coming in.

[Yorkshire HFC]

What can the fans actually do to make change happen and get the Gordons out?

They've spend a load of money, appointed the manager the fans want, apparently have the club structure sorted out and don't interfere on the playing side.

What else do you think they should be doing?

[Northernhibee]

They've spend a load of money, appointed the manager the fans want, apparently have the club structure sorted out and don't interfere on the playing side.

What else do you think they should be doing?

Doing the above competently?

[MelbourneHibees]

Withdraw your custom. It’s the only way things ever change.
With a bit of luck Foley will consider buying a controlling stake.


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He's not allowed to do that per SFA rules.

[SHODAN]

They've spend a load of money

Have they?


appointed the manager the fans want

Did they?


apparently have the club structure sorted out

lol


don't interfere on the playing side.

lol

[.Sean.]

They've spend a load of money, appointed the manager the fans want, apparently have the club structure sorted out and don't interfere on the playing side.

What else do you think they should be doing?
Spent? You mean wasted a load of money on literal garbage. Millions in wages and fees on crap like Vente, Jair, McKirdy, Kenneh, and a hopeless development project. List is endless

The fans love Gray and will back him but don’t kid yourself on for a minute he’s the manager the majority of fans wanted. Clear as day we needed an experienced head like a McInnes or Robinson, as all the chat from fans wanting one of them proved, Mcinnes especially

What club structure, the laughable quadrant including a wine merchant, a meddling car salesman that should focus on the hospitality industry since thats where his talents clearly lie in, and the most arrogant chairman the club have ever had? Yeah, fantastic

And as for not interfering on the playing side well answer me this, why is Ian Gordon still recommending average players to David Gray and Malky Mackay then taking the huff when he’s duly informed they’re pish?

I have read some nonsense on here the last day or two but wow!

[SickBoy32]

I can’t believe what I’m reading on here, one league defeat and the place is in meltdown. Who would you rather own the club ,Farmer with Rod at the helm that gave us three seasons in a lower division ? Be careful what you wish for.

Also gave us the Skol cup, the CIS cup and of course the Scottish Cup.

Rebuilt ER and a training centre.

Contrast with the Gordon’s giving us… TV’s and a lick of paint in hospitality. They’ve came in and achieved an even worse derby record than we were managing over the last 30odd years.
They’ve gave us the worst home defeats in 30-50 years vs hearts, Aberdeen, st Mirren.
They’ve gave us Andorra and Kelty.

They have been an absolute disaster for the club, and I’m really no sure how anyone can even argue the point anymore ?!

We need serious fan pressure applied to Kensell as a priority, then we can hopefully get a change of ownership further down the line.

[7Hero]

The Gordon's and Kensell not the only ones who merit criticism, as does McPherson and the rest of the poor board we have..

[7Hero]

Kensell's linked in Post - Trust the Process


https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ben-kensell-38529419_mykola-kuharevich-returns-on-loan-activity-7225486589940961281-DgSi?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

[Paulie Walnuts]

They've spend a load of money, appointed the manager the fans want, apparently have the club structure sorted out and don't interfere on the playing side.

What else do you think they should be doing?

Wow.

[Since452]

The decline since binning Ross and Dempster leaving has been alarming. Feels like a different club. Soulless. That result yesterday will have scunnered folk who were already on the edge. Easter Road will be like a morgue on Sunday.

[chrisski33]

Kensell needs to go too. Hes still saying that fans need to trust the process. Need a banner saying ***** the process Kensell out!

[Hibs90]

Kensell's linked in Post - Trust the Process


https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ben-kensell-38529419_mykola-kuharevich-returns-on-loan-activity-7225486589940961281-DgSi?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

The comments :greengrin

[SaulGoodman]

Kensell's linked in Post - Trust the Process


https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ben-kensell-38529419_mykola-kuharevich-returns-on-loan-activity-7225486589940961281-DgSi?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Check out all the sponsors and other execs in the comments telling him what a good job he’s doing. That’s another part of the problem. He’s in a wee cosy bubble with all his other elite pals. We’re just plebs.

[MikeyS]

Check out all the sponsors and other execs in the comments telling him what a good job he’s doing. That’s another part of the problem. He’s in a wee cosy bubble with all his other elite pals. We’re just plebs.

Absolutely correct, this donut couldn't care less about the fans as long as his ego is being inflated by other execs

[Ozyhibby]

Check out all the sponsors and other execs in the comments telling him what a good job he’s doing. That’s another part of the problem. He’s in a wee cosy bubble with all his other elite pals. We’re just plebs.

And I’m sure he gets plenty compliments on the quality of the wallpaper in the suites from the corporate fans. No wonder he thinks he’s doing a good job.


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[Tully]

No interested in paint wallpaper new bars , I just want what a football team is meant to be , a team on the park showing fight and passion not rolling over after every setback, fans and not stupid the crowds will drop even further if no improvement is forthcoming, we were told once stands and ground was completed we would see things improving in the most important place for a football team the pitch, we are sadly a poor team who every premier team loves playing against

[Paulie Walnuts]

And I’m sure he gets plenty compliments on the quality of the wallpaper in the suites from the corporate fans. No wonder he thinks he’s doing a good job.


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:agree:

He keeps the sponsors happy and he keeps the fans in hospitality/private bars happy by letting them have a chat with him every so often.

The rest of the fans that make up the vast majority don’t matter a **** to him as long as they keep giving over their money.

[Just_Jimmy]

I can’t believe what I’m reading on here, one league defeat and the place is in meltdown. Who would you rather own the club ,Farmer with Rod at the helm that gave us three seasons in a lower division ? Be careful what you wish for.Sir Tom everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

At least we were a football club. Instead of an American commercial franchise.

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[Just_Jimmy]

Kensell's linked in Post - Trust the Process


https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ben-kensell-38529419_mykola-kuharevich-returns-on-loan-activity-7225486589940961281-DgSi?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktopThe replies are excellent.

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[MWHIBBIES]

I can’t believe what I’m reading on here, one league defeat and the place is in meltdown. Who would you rather own the club ,Farmer with Rod at the helm that gave us three seasons in a lower division ? Be careful what you wish for.

''be careful what you wish for'' holds really zero weight when discussing Farmer. He is a 100% safe owner. I'd have him back tomorrow.

[andrew_dundee]

If Kensall etc stick to the financial side that's fine, but do we actually know they are responsible for signing bad players or blocking good ones? I could also believe that was down to questionable managers.

It's not that we're spending too little, we spend more than enough to be able to comfortably finish ahead of Dundee and St Mirren and be confident about beating them.

The problem with Jair and Vente etc isn't that they are cheap options, it's that they aren't good enough.

[Rob]

I canny believe BK gave it the “trust the process” ***** after bringing in a player on loan for us to then get pumped like that today.

Does he really believe they’re cooking something up at the club other than inevitable relegation?

Almost everyone above SDG is so detached from the fan base it’s unreal.

Ripped the soul right out of the club
I might be prepared to trust the process if the clown would actually come out and explain exactly what the effing process is

[TrinityHFC]

I might be prepared to trust the process if the clown would actually come out and explain exactly what the effing process is

Mackay has had a couple of interviews talking about how he sees the football side, recruitment etc. BK has also said publicly that we will have a substantial budget this season.

I wouldn’t expect much more detail but I would want to see actual evidence this window. It isn’t closed yet.

[Rob]

Fans will be protesting if we lose to Dundee at home.

That could easily be 4 losses in a row.
They could be protesting at the weekend if we suffer a humiliation at the hands of Celtic.

[Rob]

Fan ownership.
We had the opportunity for that years ago, but too much in-fighting prevented HSL from getting a majority shareholding.

The only way I can realistically see this happen is if a wealthy Hibs fan puts up the money to buy the Gordon's shares and agrees to allow the fans to buy these share over a period of time.

[TrinityHFC]

We had the opportunity for that years ago, but too much in-fighting prevented HSL from getting a majority shareholding.

The only way I can realistically see this happen is if a wealthy Hibs fan puts up the money to buy the Gordon's shares and agrees to allow the fans to buy these share over a period of time.

To what end?

Do you have anyone in mind to run the club day to day that makes better football decisions? Is that worth £20m of someone’s money to risk getting right?

[IberianHibernian]

We had the opportunity for that years ago, but too much in-fighting prevented HSL from getting a majority shareholding.

The only way I can realistically see this happen is if a wealthy Hibs fan puts up the money to buy the Gordon's shares and agrees to allow the fans to buy these share over a period of time.First part about HSL it`s all been said many times - not in desperate situation at time , in - fighting , terrible admin reducing donations etc etc . Second part I agree with though it wouldn`t have to mean wealthy fan selling majority of shares as so far there`s no proof that fan ownership would be best solution ( for success on pitch and respecting history of club etc ) . As there are unlikely to be any wealthy Hibs fans about who are desperate to invest heavily in the club , I suppose best solution is hoping that diluted shareholding of non Gordon / BK can keep enough influence to be able to help / lead for possible future developments . Or completely new HSL ( I know it`s not called that now ) starts to stockpile preferably without antagonising present ownership .

[Rob]

To what end?

Do you have anyone in mind to run the club day to day that makes better football decisions? Is that worth £20m of someone’s money to risk getting right?
It would not exactly be hard to find a CEO with experience of running a football club who would make better footballing decisions than our present incumbent. We took Leeanne from Motherwell to replace Petrie as CEO and she was clearly much better in the job than he was.

As to it being worth someone risking £20m, that would be for them to decide, £20m might not be a particularly large sum of money for them. There may be nobody out there willing or able to do that, my point was the only way I can envisage the club becoming fan owned is if someone was willing to put the money up and was also willing to sell their shareholding down to say HSL.

[TrinityHFC]

It would not exactly be hard to find a CEO with experience of running a football club who would make better footballing decisions than our present incumbent. We took Leeanne from Motherwell to replace Petrie as CEO and she was clearly much better in the job than he was.As to it being worth someone risking £20m, that would be for them to decide, £20m might not be a particularly large sum of money for them. There may be nobody out there willing or able to do that, my point was the only way I can envisage the club becoming fan owned is if someone was willing to put the money up and was also willing to sell their shareholding down to say HSL.She wasn't clearly much better at all. A lot of the club was shambolic. 3 years in the Championship and failing to push on from the cup win. Bits of the stadium crumbling, no shirt sponsors. The cup win was amazing but on the park things can go a variety of ways and it went for us that day. Coming out of Falkirk the week before felt very different. I don't think it is that easy to find a CEO (who shouldn't hugely be making football decisions) that would justify having to spend £20m plus yo buy out the current owners. Would be better just to chuck a fraction of that money at whoever that CEO might be...

[Paulie Walnuts]

She wasn't clearly much better at all. A lot of the club was shambolic. 3 years in the Championship and failing to push on from the cup win. Bits of the stadium crumbling, no shirt sponsors. The cup win was amazing but on the park things can go a variety of ways and it went for us that day. Coming out of Falkirk the week before felt very different. I don't think it is that easy to find a CEO (who shouldn't hugely be making football decisions) that would justify having to spend £20m plus yo buy out the current owners. Would be better just to chuck a fraction of that money at whoever that CEO might be...

We didn’t really fail to push on. We improved our league performance the next season, then came up and built one of the best Hibs sides anyone under 50 will have ever seen who went on to record a record points total and were a bawhair away from 2nd place that season.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Kensell's linked in Post - Trust the Process


https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ben-kensell-38529419_mykola-kuharevich-returns-on-loan-activity-7225486589940961281-DgSi?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

“trust the process” sounds like Montybaws

[Pretty Boy]

We didn’t really fail to push on. We improved our league performance the next season, then came up and built one of the best Hibs sides anyone under 50 will have ever seen who went on to record a record points total and were a bawhair away from 2nd place that season.

You have to consider the starting points of the respective CEOs as well.

LD came in to a club who had just been relegated and had fans gathering outside the stadium protesting. Her first task was to sack a manager and redraw a whole budget that had been based on us retaining Premiership status. We had about 7 signed players at that point and no football structure to speak of.

In the years that followed we won the Scottish Cup, reached another semi final and reached a LC final. Post 2016 we won the league comfortably losing only 3 games and were very unlucky not to reach another SC final. Followed that up with our record Premiership points total and were in the mix for 2nd place until the penultimate game.

The seasons that followed were a mixed bag but we went 4th, 5th, 7th then 3rd in the league. One is as good as it gets for us, one is a very good season, one is acceptable and one is poor. That last season also saw us reach a cup final and a semi final. Ben Kensell entered the building at that point and since then we have gone 8th, 5th and 8th again. That's 2 that fall into the poor camp if we are being generous. He inherited an infinitely better situation by almost any measure and whist it would be harsh to solely blame him, we have got progressively worse where it matters under his stewardship. The opposite was true of his predecessor.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I might be prepared to trust the process if the clown would actually come out and explain exactly what the effing process isThe process means the process - it’s like Brexit innit? Means lots of different things to different people. Folks supposedly love a man with a tan - I mean plan - we’re doing it with a process. Buys more time we’ll see how things pan out.I just don’t really know any more. Hibs need to be careful there’s a limit to the emotional well that’s fair been drained over the years.we need results and fast. But time is not our friend.

[Rob]

She wasn't clearly much better at all. A lot of the club was shambolic. 3 years in the Championship and failing to push on from the cup win. Bits of the stadium crumbling, no shirt sponsors. The cup win was amazing but on the park things can go a variety of ways and it went for us that day. Coming out of Falkirk the week before felt very different. I don't think it is that easy to find a CEO (who shouldn't hugely be making football decisions) that would justify having to spend £20m plus yo buy out the current owners. Would be better just to chuck a fraction of that money at whoever that CEO might be...I think we're getting away from my original point, which was simply an observation on my part that the only way I could see us realistically achieve fan ownership in the short term would be if someone bought out the Gordons and was willing to agree to a scheme that over time would see their shares transition to a fan ownership group. I also said that there may not be anyone willing to do so.If there was someone, then how they went about structuring the club and making key appointments would be down to them. You're the one who started getting into the detail of what appointments they would make.The latter part of your comment makes no sense at all, to paraphrase..."It's not easy to find a CEO that would justify spending £20m to buy out the current owners, would be better to chuck a fraction of that money at whoever that CEO might be"You are all over the place. I'm contemplating buying out the current owners for £20m, but I can't find a CEO that would justify that spend. Instead it would be better for me to just chuck part of that money at whoever that CEO might be. Why would I chuck money at any CEO if I don't own the club, because I couldn't find a CEO to justify buying it. But all of a sudden there is a CEO worth me chucking money at out of the goodness of my heart, so why wouldn't I buy the club and appoint them as CEO?

[MWHIBBIES]

She wasn't clearly much better at all. A lot of the club was shambolic. 3 years in the Championship and failing to push on from the cup win. Bits of the stadium crumbling, no shirt sponsors. The cup win was amazing but on the park things can go a variety of ways and it went for us that day. Coming out of Falkirk the week before felt very different. I don't think it is that easy to find a CEO (who shouldn't hugely be making football decisions) that would justify having to spend £20m plus yo buy out the current owners. Would be better just to chuck a fraction of that money at whoever that CEO might be... eh, fail to push on? Did you miss us finishing 4th, 5th and 3rd in the 3 top flight full seasons following the cup win? She was MILES ahead of the current guys. Put it this way. If the current guys arrived with us in the championship, we'd be in league 1. They cant even take us forward from a good top flight position. Imagine what they'd have done with the shambles she inherited.

[Paulie Walnuts]

You have to consider the starting points of the respective CEOs as well.

LD came in to a club who had just been relegated and had fans gathering outside the stadium protesting. Her first task was to sack a manager and redraw a whole budget that had been based on us retaining Premiership status. We had about 7 signed players at that point and no football structure to speak of.

In the years that followed we won the Scottish Cup, reached another semi final and reached a LC final. Post 2016 we won the league comfortably losing only 3 games and were very unlucky not to reach another SC final. Followed that up with our record Premiership points total and were in the mix for 2nd place until the penultimate game.

The seasons that followed were a mixed bag but we went 4th, 5th, 7th then 3rd in the league. One is as good as it gets for us, one is a very good season, one is acceptable and one is poor. That last season also saw us reach a cup final and a semi final. Ben Kensell entered the building at that point and since then we have gone 8th, 5th and 8th again. That's 2 that fall into the poor camp if we are being generous. He inherited an infinitely better situation by almost any measure and whist it would be harsh to solely blame him, we have got progressively worse where it matters under his stewardship. The opposite was true of his predecessor.

I actually didn’t realise our record continued to be fairly good even after the record points total season.

Makes the idea that Leeann clearly wasn’t better all the more laughable.

[blackpoolhibs]

This lot need hounded out, roasters who dont have a clue how to run a successful football club.

Get out the club you absolute clowns.

[J-C]

Ron's biggest problem was not bringing in a football person to help run the club with him, he treated it like a business hence why Kensall was added to ramp up the corporate side of Hibs. They tried McDermott which didn't work and now they're trying Mackay who's never done this job before even though he talks a great game, it's all just talk at the moment. There's zero point in making Hibs a wealthier club corporate wise if you cannot get the footballing side correct and that's been their problem, we need owners who will add money but also bring in footballing knowledge.

[Onion]

Ron's biggest problem was not bringing in a football person to help run the club with him, he treated it like a business hence why Kensall was added to ramp up the corporate side of Hibs. They tried McDermott which didn't work and now they're trying Mackay who's never done this job before even though he talks a great game, it's all just talk at the moment. There's zero point in making Hibs a wealthier club corporate wise if you cannot get the footballing side correct and that's been their problem, we need owners who will add money but also bring in footballing knowledge.

Was really hoping Black Knight was going to be our white knight, but Hibs quickly shut that down. :rolleyes:

[B.H.F.C]

Was really hoping Black Knight was going to be our white knight, but Hibs quickly shut that down. :rolleyes:

I was walking down the road last night and it occurred to me that I’ve almost totally forgotten about the Black Knight involvement.

There is nothing coming from it at this moment in time. I don’t think that’ll change any time soon either. It seems pretty clear we wanted their money but to still do our own thing. In hindsight I’m surprised the money has been handed over on the basis it has.

I don’t care about how well meaning the current ownership are, they’re sucking the life out of the FOOTBALL club. It’s been said a million times but **** all your nice lounges etc, I just want to see something resembling a football team on the park.

[Unseen work]

Hopefully the black knights do us a favour in January - https://x.com/twfootball1867/status/1796817892849152325?s=46&t=jmxs-mZWT_cnYbURW-GKJw

[Northernhibee]

I was walking down the road last night and it occurred to me that I’ve almost totally forgotten about the Black Knight involvement.

There is nothing coming from it at this moment in time. I don’t think that’ll change any time soon either. It seems pretty clear we wanted their money but to still do our own thing. In hindsight I’m surprised the money has been handed over on the basis it has.

I don’t care about how well meaning the current ownership are, they’re sucking the life out of the FOOTBALL club. It’s been said a million times but **** all your nice lounges etc, I just want to see something resembling a football team on the park.
For some reason, it really, really irks me after a loss to see a Facebook post hours reading along the lines of “Want to own the shirts worn on the pitch today?” with a link to the auction site. It makes it feel like the football is entirely secondary in priorities and win, lose, or draw it’s down to getting as much money out of people as possible.

It’s all incredibly tone deaf.

[Bostonhibby]

For some reason, it really, really irks me after a loss to see a Facebook post hours reading along the lines of “Want to own the shirts worn on the pitch today?” with a link to the auction site. It makes it feel like the football is entirely secondary in priorities and win, lose, or draw it’s down to getting as much money out of people as possible.

It’s all incredibly tone deaf.Aye but they know how to run bars and trying to sell us lots of stuff, no awareness or sense of timing involved in the latter.

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[we are hibs]

The longer they are in charge, the harder it becomes for the next folk that take over to turn us around.

It is a mess. It has been for about 3/4 years and will continue to be whilst they are running the club.

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[Since452]

I really wish they'd never taken over

[Chorley Hibee]

It's not going to improve until all the jokers involved (Gordon family, Kensell, McPherson etc) are forcibly removed.

The protests need to start pronto.

The next set of accounts will be very interesting too.

I suspect we're going to find out just how much of a liar Kensell was, yet again.

We verging on big, big trouble under these ****wits.

[Coco Bryce]

The only way they will take notice is if people stop attending the bars and hospitality areas. That's all they care about.

[jakeshibs]

Honestly never seen a worse post, absolutely bollocks.

Factually, they have put more money into the club than anyone previously, and we, as fans, could barely fund the attempt at fan ownership.

Unless you have a solid business plan that supersedes the Gordons and more money to fund our ambitions, or you are willing to buy the club with your own money. The Gordons have increased the budget, improved the ground and facilities and have spent a fortune trying to get it right on the park.

Please explain your plan to remove the Gordons and replace them with who? Fan ownership. We couldn't even afford to pay the bills, never mind buy million-pound players, if we went that route. Or are we hoping for a good fairy to come along and spend all their money funding our dreams?

[Trinity Hibee]

Honestly never seen a worse post, absolutely bollocks.

Factually, they have put more money into the club than anyone previously, and we, as fans, could barely fund the attempt at fan ownership.

Unless you have a solid business plan that supersedes the Gordons and more money to fund our ambitions, or you are willing to buy the club with your own money. The Gordons have increased the budget, improved the ground and facilities and have spent a fortune trying to get it right on the park.

Please explain your plan to remove the Gordons and replace them with who? Fan ownership. We couldn't even afford to pay the bills, never mind buy million-pound players, if we went that route. Or are we hoping for a good fairy to come along and spend all their money funding our dreams?

An ownership of proclaimers, Andy Murray and Dougray scott for me

[Northernhibee]

I really wish they'd never taken over

Me too.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Honestly never seen a worse post, absolutely bollocks.

Factually, they have put more money into the club than anyone previously, and we, as fans, could barely fund the attempt at fan ownership.

Unless you have a solid business plan that supersedes the Gordons and more money to fund our ambitions, or you are willing to buy the club with your own money. The Gordons have increased the budget, improved the ground and facilities and have spent a fortune trying to get it right on the park.

Please explain your plan to remove the Gordons and replace them with who? Fan ownership. We couldn't even afford to pay the bills, never mind buy million-pound players, if we went that route. Or are we hoping for a good fairy to come along and spend all their money funding our dreams?

I’ve honestly never seen a worse post. Absolute bollocks.

[percy veer]

For some reason, it really, really irks me after a loss to see a Facebook post hours reading along the lines of “Want to own the shirts worn on the pitch today?” with a link to the auction site. It makes it feel like the football is entirely secondary in priorities and win, lose, or draw it’s down to getting as much money out of people as possible.



It’s all incredibly tone deaf.

Is it though? When i was walking out plenty folk clapping and kids asking for shirts, I was thinking to myself seriously

[green day]

Honestly never seen a worse post, absolutely bollocks.

Factually, they have put more money into the club than anyone previously, and we, as fans, could barely fund the attempt at fan ownership.

Unless you have a solid business plan that supersedes the Gordons and more money to fund our ambitions, or you are willing to buy the club with your own money. The Gordons have increased the budget, improved the ground and facilities and have spent a fortune trying to get it right on the park.

Please explain your plan to remove the Gordons and replace them with who? Fan ownership. We couldn't even afford to pay the bills, never mind buy million-pound players, if we went that route. Or are we hoping for a good fairy to come along and spend all their money funding our dreams?

Of course, you are right that they have put more money into the club than ever before.

But the problem is that we have an owner and CEO who dont have a clue how to leverage that financial advantage.

We lose to / draw to clubs like St Mirren, Motherwell, Dundee who are relative paupers.

So, yes - change is needed.

And what is needed is for the owner to acknowledge that they dont have the tools to deal with it, use the BKs / Foley to our advantage, and actually start moving forward on the field.

Frankly, I dont GAF how full the hospitality lounges are if we continue to get worse on the park - as we have done now pretty much every season since the Gordons arrived.

[Chorley Hibee]

Honestly never seen a worse post, absolutely bollocks.

Factually, they have put more money into the club than anyone previously, and we, as fans, could barely fund the attempt at fan ownership.

Unless you have a solid business plan that supersedes the Gordons and more money to fund our ambitions, or you are willing to buy the club with your own money. The Gordons have increased the budget, improved the ground and facilities and have spent a fortune trying to get it right on the park.

Please explain your plan to remove the Gordons and replace them with who? Fan ownership. We couldn't even afford to pay the bills, never mind buy million-pound players, if we went that route. Or are we hoping for a good fairy to come along and spend all their money funding our dreams?

You keep hanging around for relegation then, because it's coming.

As for their financial acumen, let's see the latest set of accounts before waxing lyrical about that.

I predict yet more heavy losses.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Honestly never seen a worse post, absolutely bollocks.

Factually, they have put more money into the club than anyone previously, and we, as fans, could barely fund the attempt at fan ownership.

Unless you have a solid business plan that supersedes the Gordons and more money to fund our ambitions, or you are willing to buy the club with your own money. The Gordons have increased the budget, improved the ground and facilities and have spent a fortune trying to get it right on the park.

Please explain your plan to remove the Gordons and replace them with who? Fan ownership. We couldn't even afford to pay the bills, never mind buy million-pound players, if we went that route. Or are we hoping for a good fairy to come along and spend all their money funding our dreams?

10/10 👏, unfortunately good business sense post's like this,is rarely appreciated.

[Paulie Walnuts]

10/10 👏, unfortunately good business sense post's like this,is rarely appreciated.

Probably because we all support the football club for the football rather than the balance sheet.

[blackpoolhibs]

If i could afford it and buy Man City, i'm pretty sure i'd really piss off Pep and the support if i put my lad in charge of running the show, and head of recruitment.

Eventually the hospitality rooms would empty too.

[B.H.F.C]

10/10 👏, unfortunately good business sense post's like this,is rarely appreciated.

Folk don’t give a **** about the business side. We’re FOOTBALL supporters and are being continually let down by these business people making bad football decisions.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Probably because we all support the football club for the football rather than the balance sheet.

Club needs long term financial security.

We need to grow revenue streams off and on the field to support the team.

PS. I write this following a 315 mile round trip yesterday.

[One Day Soon]

10/10 👏, unfortunately good business sense post's like this,is rarely appreciated.

'good business sense'.

More money into the club than ever before turned into terrible performances, serial poor appointments, a signing 'strategy' which has left us with an anaemic squad and a support increasingly dislocated from the club. Blinding. It's like Liz Truss decided to do football.

Any ****wit can spend money if they have it or have access to it, it takes a special kind of idiot to piss it away for such little return.

And BTW, we took in over £10 million in capital very recently. How much of that has been turned into player investment? Not much. Why? Because they know how much of a complete James Hunt they've made of it all and that the next set of accounts are going to need some black hole filling. There's your great business acumen, more money in than ever before only to see it arsed away on paying for the costly mistakes of two completely inexperienced amateurs playing Football Manager with our club year after year.

[DarlingtonHibee]

'good business sense'.

More money into the club than ever before turned into terrible performances, serial poor appointments, a signing 'strategy' which has left us with an anaemic squad and a support increasingly dislocated from the club. Blinding. It's like Liz Truss decided to do football.

Any ****wit can spend money if they have it or have access to it, it takes a special kind of idiot to piss it away for such little return.

And BTW, we took in over £10 million in capital very recently. How much of that has been turned into player investment? Not much. Why? Because they know how much of a complete James Hunt they've made of it all and that the next set of accounts are going to need some black hole filling. There's your great business acumen, more money in than ever before only to see it arsed away on paying for the costly mistakes of two completely inexperienced amateurs playing Football Manager with our club year after year.

Different options,that's what the forum is for.

Tell me, who do you see buying the club, and offering long-term security 🤔

[blackpoolhibs]

Different options,that's what the forum is for.

Tell me, who do you see buying the club, and offering long-term security 🤔

I'd never heard of the Gordons before they bought us, and Ron said before he died he'd had offers, in fact did Ian not say something similar when he gave that interview recently?

None of us probably know anyone as rich as the person who would want to buy us, doesnt mean there are none, when clearly there have been offers.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Club needs long term financial security.

We need to grow revenue streams off and on the field to support the team.

PS. I write this following a 315 mile round trip yesterday.

It does. It also needs footballing success.

The growth of our revenue streams has simultaneously watched us get worse and worse, sacking manager after manager and signing player after player who aren’t good enough, wasting huge amounts of money along the way. We’ve also had massive losses that have been covered up by financial dealings that aren’t part of our day to day trading.

I’m not sure the idea we’ve got good financial people at the helm is all that true. They’ve managed to find money from here there and everywhere to plug gaps. I’m not convinced that can go on forever though.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I'd never heard of the Gordons before they bought us, and Ron said before he died he'd had offers, in fact did Ian not say something similar when he gave that interview recently?

None of us probably know anyone as rich as the person who would want to buy us, doesnt mean there are none, when clearly there have been offers.

:agree:

There’s been lots of people wanting to buy the club if you believe the Gordon’s, so the idea there’s nobody out there simply isn’t true.

[DarlingtonHibee]

I'd never heard of the Gordons before they bought us, and Ron said before he died he'd had offers, in fact did Ian not say something similar when he gave that interview recently?

None of us probably know anyone as rich as the person who would want to buy us, doesnt mean there are none, when clearly there have been offers.

STF and RP did a great deal of due diligence on the current owners, to ensure stability going forward.

Yes,there will be many interested in securing our club, but be very careful what you wish for...

[One Day Soon]

Different options,that's what the forum is for.

Tell me, who do you see buying the club, and offering long-term security 🤔


Did you mean different opinions? If so, these aren't opinions they are hard facts.

There has been a lot of foreign investment interest in both Scottish and English football for quite some time now. That essentially is why we ended up with the Gordons as owners. There will be others out there, particularly for an Edinburgh club with the potential that we have.

The Gordons would be great owners for us - if they kept the **** away from interfering in the footballing side which they know literally nothing about, appointed experienced professionals to the key footballing roles, got rid of Kensall or clipped him back to the commercial side only and stopped making all their decisions and appointments on the basis of what protects the two people who keeping ****ing up at the top of the club from criticism and transparency.

[Coco Bryce]

An ownership of proclaimers, Andy Murray and Dougray scott for me

And Irvine Welsh.

[One Day Soon]

And Irvine Welsh.

No thanks.

[blackpoolhibs]

STF and RP did a great deal of due diligence on the current owners, to ensure stability going forward.

Yes,there will be many interested in securing our club, but be very careful what you wish for...


We have the Gordons and you say that?:confused:

[DarlingtonHibee]

We have the Gordons and you say that?:confused:

Yes,remember the stadium would be part of any sale.

Plenty of David Rowlands out there..

[Baldy Foghorn]

STF and RP did a great deal of due diligence on the current owners, to ensure stability going forward.

Yes,there will be many interested in securing our club, but be very careful what you wish for...

The due diligence was simply not done.

[DarlingtonHibee]

The due diligence was simply not done.

You're telling us that Rod Petrie, said don't bother with any due diligence ??

Had to check the calendar there 😊

[Hibees1973]

They had the chance to make wholesale changes in the summer after sacking Montgomery. Kensell made a big deal about the review, but nothing has got better.

Instead McPherson appoints his dubious pal MacKay, then the Golden Quadrant go for the cheap and easy option in Gray.

They have diverted some of the Black Knights cash to fill the holes in losses created by poor recruitment and paying off players/managerial staff. Then ignored any input from the Black Knights.

The Golden Quadrant are untouchable. I predict that if Gray doesn't get better at his job, Mackay will be our next manager.

[blackpoolhibs]

You're telling us that Rod Petrie, said don't bother with any due diligence ??

Had to check the calendar there 😊

Christ i'm glad he did all that due dilligence, imagine the mess we could be in had he not?

[Hibees1973]

Christ i'm glad he did all that due dilligence, imagine the mess we could be in had he not?

Ron was clearly genuine and came across as a decent bloke.

The main problem was that Ron delegated responsibility to running the football side of things to his son and Kensell. They were just like a couple of wee laddies playing with Ron's cash.

Mackay was then given the reigns by his pal McPherson to right the wrongs created by Ian Gordon & Kensell.

[BoomtownHibees]

be very careful what you wish for...

Is winning 6 games out the last 28 beyond reach? That’s all I wish for

[blackpoolhibs]

Ron was clearly genuine and came across as a decent bloke.

The main problem was that Ron delegated responsibility to running the football side of things to his son and Kensell. They were just like a couple of wee laddies playing with Ron's cash.

Mackay was then given the reigns by his pal McPherson to right the wrongs created by Ian Gordon & Kensell.

I thought that to begin with, but he treated folk behind the scenes who'd been at the club for years doing menial jobs very poorly.

Thought he knew best, and run roughshod over a club who'd actually got it's act together and finished 3rd for the first time in years.

Dont get me onto his son, but since that family got their grubby paws into our club it's been downhill ever since.

Due dilligence my erse.

[Baldy Foghorn]

You're telling us that Rod Petrie, said don't bother with any due diligence ??

Had to check the calendar there 😊

How do you know how much DD was done? I know someone who was involved with the deal, and said they regretted letting IG have control, go figure?

[Jack]

Honestly never seen a worse post, absolutely bollocks.

Factually, they have put more money into the club than anyone previously, and we, as fans, could barely fund the attempt at fan ownership.

Unless you have a solid business plan that supersedes the Gordons and more money to fund our ambitions, or you are willing to buy the club with your own money. The Gordons have increased the budget, improved the ground and facilities and have spent a fortune trying to get it right on the park.

Please explain your plan to remove the Gordons and replace them with who? Fan ownership. We couldn't even afford to pay the bills, never mind buy million-pound players, if we went that route. Or are we hoping for a good fairy to come along and spend all their money funding our dreams?

It doesn't matter how much money they've put into our football club if it's been and being wasted on the pitch.

When Ron set out his vision of our club there were very few cared about how he explained the financials, other than us ponying up which upset a few!

The supporters bottom line was the ambition of 3rd in the league, Europe and cups.

Instead what we've seen in the last few years is hearts and the sheep dominating 3rd while we've sunk to scrambling about mid table and eye bleeding football.

When was the last time you went home from a Hibs match having really enjoyed it?

The Gordons sold us a vision and the Gordons have failed to deliver.

Declining season ticket sales tell there own story.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I thought that to begin with, but he treated folk behind the scenes who'd been at the club for years doing menial jobs very poorly.

Thought he knew best, and run roughshod over a club who'd actually got it's act together and finished 3rd for the first time in years.

Dont get me onto his son, but since that family got their grubby paws into our club it's been downhill ever since.

Due dilligence my erse.

This :aok: Although slightly different, in that he concerned me from the very off

[Fergos]

Of course, you are right that they have put more money into the club than ever before.

But the problem is that we have an owner and CEO who dont have a clue how to leverage that financial advantage.

We lose to / draw to clubs like St Mirren, Motherwell, Dundee who are relative paupers.

So, yes - change is needed.

And what is needed is for the owner to acknowledge that they dont have the tools to deal with it, use the BKs / Foley to our advantage, and actually start moving forward on the field.

Frankly, I dont GAF how full the hospitality lounges are if we continue to get worse on the park - as we have done now pretty much every season since the Gordons arrived.

Totally agree. Honest intentions poorly, very poorly implemented on the football side. 3 bottom 6 finished in their 5 years here…..and a raft of rubbish signings, great examples of how to waste all the £ they are generating - apparently.

[blackpoolhibs]

This :aok: Although slightly different, in that he concerned me from the very off

I had no idea who he was, and had to take him at face value. He certainly hoodwinked me with his bull****.:rolleyes:

[Baldy Foghorn]

I had no idea who he was, and had to take him at face value. He certainly hoodwinked me with his bull****.:rolleyes:

Fair, that's all you could do. I had prior knowledge and our 1st meeting didn't inspire me.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I really wish they'd never taken over


this

[cabbageandribs1875]

An ownership of proclaimers, Andy Murray and Dougray scott for me


a Golden Quadrant we can all get on board with :)