(NHC) Ian Murray sacked by Raith

[GloryGlory]

According to DR & BBC

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/transfer-news-live-celtic-rangers-33345960

[Libby Hibby]

The Hanlon/Stevenson effect

[JohnM1875]

Something has to have happened behind the scenes there. Play off final last season and one of the favourites to go up this year surely.

Aye they narrowly lost 1-0 away to Airdrie yesterday, but that happens.

[supermcginn]

The Hanlon/Stevenson effect

Didn't take them long to see off yet another manager.

[Lago]

The Hanlon/Stevenson effect
Joint player/manager:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Terrible decision imo

[Forza Fred]

Must be non football related reason, surely?

[HH81]

Seems an awful decision.

Is Hanlon injured didn't see him on team sheet yesterday?

[leith lynx]

Wouldn't be surprised if Kevin Thomson is lined up for that one.

[Bridge hibs]

Should get him back in a coaching role

[Carheenlea]

Wild.

Has to some non footballing matter or dressing room revolt.

[Since452]

Bizarre

[ManlyOz]

Terrible decision, must have someone already in place. Who would be a manager eh!!

[eastmainsmsh]

Madness

[Paul1642]

Certainly never seen that one coming. Really odd.

[Dibben]

Very strange decision. Definitely not a football decision after just one game.

[CropleyWasGod]

Raith statement

https://www.raithrovers.net/club-statement-ian-murray/

Board obviously setting a high bar.

[Alex Trager]

Crazy decision, honestly feel like the folk in charge of clubs these days are complete tools.

[Ricky Bobby]

The club statement says that results have not met expectations since the turn of the year.
Utter madness, when you actually look at their results.
I was at the Raith game yesterday and they were awful, but not bad enough to sack the manager.
By the way Stevenson was their best player

[Smartie]

Clubs who know what they’re doing don’t sack managers after 1-5 games of a league season.

If they’re needing sacked at that point they’ve either done something that meant they shouldn’t have been appointed in the first place or have been let go at the end of the previous season.

Shambles.

[eastmainsmsh]

Tam courts ?

[judas]

Crazy. Cmon, someone on here must have heard something. Spill the beans please.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Strange turn of events. Could have been made clear to him that the Premier League was the needed outcome of the the play offs and if not achieved they could have done a mutual. He'll not be out of the game long term.

[Unseen work]

Sounds like they’re getting ideas above their station

Probably regret that decision

[GloryGlory]

Strange turn of events. Could have been made clear to him that the Premier League was the needed outcome of the the play offs and if not achieved they could have done a mutual. He'll not be out of the game long term.

But they would have done that at the time, surely, not waited until after the first game of the new season. And allowed him to bring in new signings.

[CropleyWasGod]

Think the fact that it was Airdrie yesterday is a big factor.

They couldn't beat Airdrie at all last season. Had they won even a couple of games against them, they would have been promoted. Yesterday probably showed that things won't be any better this season.

[BoomtownHibees]

Think the fact that it was Airdrie yesterday is a big factor.

They couldn't beat Airdrie at all last season. Had they won even a couple of games against them, they would have been promoted. Yesterday probably showed that things won't be any better this season.

Surely no sacked because of an away game at Airdrie

[CropleyWasGod]

Surely no sacked because of an away game at Airdrie

Not what I said :greengrin

Sacked because there seems to be no progress from last season. The owners are clearly ambitious, and just another gallant failure isn't enough for them.

[MelbourneHibees]

If there was any sort if gross mis-conduct I assume Raith would have to disclose this as opposed to pretending
it was to do with results?

[Billy Whizz]

Not what I said :greengrin

Sacked because there seems to be no progress from last season. The owners are clearly ambitious, and just another gallant failure isn't enough for them.

You’ll know better than me, have they significantly strengthened from last season, other than the 2 Hibs boys, although Hanlon hasn’t played yet

There are some good teams in the championship this season like
Falkirk/ Ayr etc

[Callum_62]

Their results since the turn of the year haven't been that bad at all

Seems like a crazy call

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[tamig]

Sounds like they’re getting ideas above their station

Probably regret that decision

That was my first thought. Did they really expect to be challenging for the title before the start of last season? Very poor decision on the face of it.

[neil7908]

Totally bizarre decision after 1 game.

If Murray was that close to going why wait all summer and let him bring in players?

Always like Raith and don't wish ill on Hanlon and Lewis but a big part of me wants to see them struggle big time this season.

[blackpoolhibs]

I couldnt stand Murray, now i can want them to do well with Hanlon and Stevenson. :thumbsup:

[He's here!]

Raith statement

https://www.raithrovers.net/club-statement-ian-murray/

Board obviously setting a high bar.

They're daft if this is a purely football-based decision. What hope have young managers got if this is the climate they're working in?

[MWHIBBIES]

That league is absolutely there for the taking this year. Makes sense to me if they didn't think he was the guy.

[Brightside]

That league is absolutely there for the taking this year. Makes sense to me if they didn't think he was the guy.

:greengrin They just gave hime a new deal. It's utter madness.

[MWHIBBIES]

:greengrin They just gave hime a new deal. It's utter madness.

That part is very strange.

[Wilson]

I couldnt stand Murray, now i can want them to do well with Hanlon and Stevenson. :thumbsup:

They won't because of the clowns in the boardroom. They'll be doing the hibs style 'transition' now.

Falkirk for me.

[SHODAN]

This is exactly the route Falkirk went down and we can see the aftermath.

[DH1875]

That league is absolutely there for the taking this year. Makes sense to me if they didn't think he was the guy.

How is there for the taking? Some big teams in there who will all fancy their chances.

Sacking Murray at this stage just doesn't make sense.

[Hibrandenburg]

That's mental.

[BoomtownHibees]

That league is absolutely there for the taking this year. Makes sense to me if they didn't think he was the guy.

Surely that happens in the summer, no after one league defeat?

[Since452]

We sacked a manager after 3 games last season. It happens.

[Just_Jimmy]

We sacked a manager after 3 games last season. It happens.Who should have gone at the end of the previous season.



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[LewysGot2]

:greengrin They just gave hime a new deal. It's utter madness.

And sanctioned lots of new players...

Have to say my first thought was actually for Lewis and Paul.

They'll be wondering how they've been there 5 mins and on their 2nd manager.

[MWHIBBIES]

How is there for the taking? Some big teams in there who will all fancy their chances.

Sacking Murray at this stage just doesn't make sense.

No obvious winner, no real bigger team than Raith. Cant understand why they see this as a big chance.

[TrinityHFC]

Who should have gone at the end of the previous season.



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Not really. We shouldn’t be sacking managers that get us into Europe just because some fans don’t like the way he speaks.

[LNHibs]

Hes not well liked by the players there at all either. Obviously somethings went on behind the scenes. Heard he's an absolute weapon of a guy

[zitelli62]

And sanctioned lots of new players...

Have to say my first thought was actually for Lewis and Paul.

They'll be wondering how they've been there 5 mins and on their 2nd manager.

There used to that.

[He's here!]

Hes not well liked by the players there at all either. Obviously somethings went on behind the scenes. Heard he's an absolute weapon of a guy

That's not my experience of him. Always a gent with my kids when he was at ER.

[Coco Bryce]

Hes not well liked by the players there at all either. Obviously somethings went on behind the scenes. Heard he's an absolute weapon of a guy

Nah. He's a sound lad.

[JohnM1875]

Nah. He's a sound lad.

Never met him, but any interviews or that I've seen of him he seems like a class guy.

[Northernhibee]

Have a feeling he will end up at Arbroath.

[Lago]

Hes not well liked by the players there at all either. Obviously somethings went on behind the scenes. Heard he's an absolute weapon of a guy
Mmmmm gossip

[Billy Whizz]

Have a feeling he will end up at Arbroath.

Have they sacked their manager

[hibeerealist]

Hes not well liked by the players there at all either. Obviously somethings went on behind the scenes. Heard he's an absolute weapon of a guy


Your post smells of Tiny! The Ian Murray I know is not the person you are describing, maybe you have something against him? Remember he had 1972 tat on his head for a tiny derby before he moved to der hun.

[Northernhibee]

Have they sacked their manager

No but he’s won three in thirty. Won’t be long.

[brianmc]

Your post smells of Tiny! The Ian Murray I know is not the person you are describing, maybe you have something against him? Remember he had 1972 tat on his head for a tiny derby before he moved to der hun.

Did he 🤔

[matty_f]

Clubs who know what they’re doing don’t sack managers after 1-5 games of a league season.

If they’re needing sacked at that point they’ve either done something that meant they shouldn’t have been appointed in the first place or have been let go at the end of the previous season.

Shambles.

Agreed. Can you imagine the push on here for a sacking if Monty had been given the summer and lost to Kelty then St Mirren? We'd have another manager coming in bemoaning the lack of time to work with the squad from having no pre-season with them.

[Bridge hibs]

Your post smells of Tiny! The Ian Murray I know is not the person you are describing, maybe you have something against him? Remember he had 1972 tat on his head for a tiny derby before he moved to der hun.

Not sure the relevance to 1972 but he did have 1973 dyed green into the back of his head 28077

[DH1875]

Met him a few times. Even got a selfie about 10 years ago. Always seemed a sound guy to me.

[hibee_girl]

Met him a few times. Even got a selfie about 10 years ago. Always seemed a sound guy to me.

:agree:

Spent an afternoon at hospitality with him and his dad a few years ago now and both of them were brilliant especially with my Grandad who chatted to them all afternoon.

We bumped into them at Tynecastle not long after and they both greeted my grandad like a long lost friend.

[McD]

:agree:

Spent an afternoon at hospitality with him and his dad a few years ago now and both of them were brilliant especially with my Grandad who chatted to them all afternoon.

We bumped into them at Tynecastle not long after and they both greeted my grandad like a long lost friend.



Classy, love hearing things like this

[basehibby]

Hes not well liked by the players there at all either. Obviously somethings went on behind the scenes. Heard he's an absolute weapon of a guyHe doesn't come across as a ray of sunshine in interviews, but that's not really the point of a football manager. They are supposed to deliver results and Murray certainly delivered on that front last season with RR being the only side to run Dundee Utd close for the title.Astonishing decision after just ONE league game!!!

[The Wireless]

Hes not well liked by the players there at all either. Obviously somethings went on behind the scenes. Heard he's an absolute weapon of a guy If Ian Murray was a weapon of a guy there would not have been a snowball’s chance he would have convinced no men’s fools Hanlon and Stevenson to continue their career in Kirkcaldy. You might contest his managerial ability but your hearsay on his character is well off target.

[Unseen work]

I do remember seeing something about a fall out between the players and Murray and it was used as an excuse for their form at the start of the year

What I’ll say though is a fallout doesn’t mean the manager is a bad guy. The manager could actually be in the right but it just always sounds his fault and that they’ve “lost the dressing room”

Raith apparently have put in a lot of money this last 12 months though so maybe they think they can get more from the squad - which is brave

One game into a season when you’ve let him recruit and have pre season is wild though

[truehibernian]

Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if their CE will get his mate McCabe in from Airdrie - just saying. As for folk questioning Ian’s character and comments like ‘weapon’ - behave 😂 he’s a gentleman, and the poster saying that wouldn’t say it to his face guaranteed!

[Whelahan 1875]

Had the misfortune to sit next to him at ER in hospitality. As a former player I was surprised to find him pretty distant, disengaged in Hibs chat and a bit arrogant tbh. Others at the table felt the same. Probably the years spent at Ibrox rubbed off on him.

[silverhibee]

Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if their CE will get his mate McCabe in from Airdrie - just saying. As for folk questioning Ian’s character and comments like ‘weapon’ - behave 😂 he’s a gentleman, and the poster saying that wouldn’t say it to his face guaranteed!

He seems a quiet guy, head down cap on and really doesn’t look to chat with folk which is fair enough, but my mum said it’s the quiet ones you have to watch out for. :wink:

[w pilton hibby]

From the EEN

Murray dismissal reasons revealed

Earlier this week, Raith Rovers announced the decision to part ways with manager Ian Murray. The 43-year-old, who represented both Hibs and Rangers during his playing days, was appointed in 2022. His contract has been terminated despite the Rovers finishing second in the Scottish Championship last season.

“I can see why it came as a shock to fans and the wider football community given last season's exploits. This isn't a knee-jerk reaction based on one performance, five performances or eight including the pre-season games,” Raith Rovers CEO Andrew Barrowman explained in an interview with the club.

“It was formed over a number of months. We live and breathe this club. We see things, we hear things, we feel things that inform these opinions. Despite what people think, there was no flashpoint and no falling out. I spoke to Ian a couple of times on Sunday and he was shocked. I don't think he agreed with my points, but I think he understood the rationale, which is a mark of the individual.

"People talk about why we didn't do it at the end of the season. Rightly or wrongly, we believed Ian deserved the opportunity for us to be better. Hindsight's a wonderful thing and could we have acted differently? Possibly. "Ultimately, we don't believe Ian was the man to take us forward and that's why we came to the decision. I don't think Ian comes out of the situation badly at all. He did a good job, even previous to our time at the club. I don't think his CV has been damaged and I'm sure he'll go on to become successful in his next job. "I want to express our gratitude to Ian and the job he did. We all experienced some pretty special moments last year and he led us to that."

[Cabbage-Patch]

Shame this wasn't a month ago he would have made a superior assistant to Gray than Liam Craig

[SHODAN]

Wait, Andy Barrowman is the Raith chief exec now?

[CropleyWasGod]

Wait, Andy Barrowman is the Raith chief exec now?

Has been for over a year now.

[Hiber-nation]

Shame this wasn't a month ago he would have made a superior assistant to Gray than Liam Craig

So you know all about LC's ability as an assistant then. OK.

[Iain G]

Had the misfortune to sit next to him at ER in hospitality. As a former player I was surprised to find him pretty distant, disengaged in Hibs chat and a bit arrogant tbh. Others at the table felt the same. Probably the years spent at Ibrox rubbed off on him.

Was he there with friends, family? Were a lot of people talking to him when maybe he didn't really want them to be? What made him come over as arrogant?

[Alfred E Newman]

From the EEN

Murray dismissal reasons revealed

Earlier this week, Raith Rovers announced the decision to part ways with manager Ian Murray. The 43-year-old, who represented both Hibs and Rangers during his playing days, was appointed in 2022. His contract has been terminated despite the Rovers finishing second in the Scottish Championship last season.

“I can see why it came as a shock to fans and the wider football community given last season's exploits. This isn't a knee-jerk reaction based on one performance, five performances or eight including the pre-season games,” Raith Rovers CEO Andrew Barrowman explained in an interview with the club.

“It was formed over a number of months. We live and breathe this club. We see things, we hear things, we feel things that inform these opinions. Despite what people think, there was no flashpoint and no falling out. I spoke to Ian a couple of times on Sunday and he was shocked. I don't think he agreed with my points, but I think he understood the rationale, which is a mark of the individual.

"People talk about why we didn't do it at the end of the season. Rightly or wrongly, we believed Ian deserved the opportunity for us to be better. Hindsight's a wonderful thing and could we have acted differently? Possibly. "Ultimately, we don't believe Ian was the man to take us forward and that's why we came to the decision. I don't think Ian comes out of the situation badly at all. He did a good job, even previous to our time at the club. I don't think his CV has been damaged and I'm sure he'll go on to become successful in his next job. "I want to express our gratitude to Ian and the job he did. We all experienced some pretty special moments last year and he led us to that."

He doesn’t believe Ian was the man to take them forward but he is sure he will be successful in his next job?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Will find another good job no bother. Would like to see him take on the Pars, stick it right to Raith 😄

[Moulin Yarns]

Bring in val mcdairmid

[Donegal Hibby]

Surely not ? …
https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-legend-paul-hanlon-one-of-bookies-favourites-to-take-over-from-ian-murray-as-raith-rovers-manager-4731389

[Hiber-nation]

Surely not ? …
https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/football/hibs-legend-paul-hanlon-one-of-bookies-favourites-to-take-over-from-ian-murray-as-raith-rovers-manager-4731389

Bookies being bookies.

[Gus]

Corrr coming to the Pars would be great. McPake is defo struggling (hope he turns it around)

It does seem a very strange reason for punting him after one game but that's football.

Who knows IM might have been touting himself for the Hibs job pre SDG being appointed? Let''s be honest he shafted Hibs as a player going along to Govan by letting his contract run down.

Hopefully he gets a new job and sticks it to Raith though

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Corrr coming to the Pars would be great. McPake is defo struggling (hope he turns it around)

It does seem a very strange reason for punting him after one game but that's football.

Who knows IM might have been touting himself for the Hibs job pre SDG being appointed? Let''s be honest he shafted Hibs as a player going along to Govan by letting his contract run down.

Hopefully he gets a new job and sticks it to Raith though

Yup. I harbour no grudge towards Murray, I got all my emotions out when Garry O’Connor rose above him at the back post at Ibrox.

[Donegal Hibby]

I see the Airdrie manager getting linked with it , what are the chances he gets it and Murray ends up back there 🤔

[BILLYHIBS]

Hanlon Stevenson dream team ??

[Smartie]

Hanlon Stevenson dream team ??

Imagine they managed to “see off” themselves…