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Greenio
01-08-2024, 11:33 PM
Comments about him are bang out of order.

Obviously its frustrating having a player that cant play, but the suggestions ive seen about how his injuries are something hes orchestrated or that hes work shy or not interested in playing???

Just total made up *****. Kicking a guy when hes down. Hed play every minute of every game if he could.

You can say what you like, just know ots uncalled for

Big_Franck
01-08-2024, 11:39 PM
I have a feeling with him now being in the last year of his contract, he'll suddenly be available for a lot more games this season. A common theme with some injury-prone footballers.

Greenio
01-08-2024, 11:41 PM
I have a feeling with him now being in the last year of his contract, he'll suddenly be available for a lot more games this season. A common theme with some injury-prone footballers.

?

Youre saying hes at it?

Albert Kidd 86’
02-08-2024, 05:00 AM
Comments about him are bang out of order.

Obviously its frustrating having a player that cant play, but the suggestions ive seen about how his injuries are something hes orchestrated or that hes work shy or not interested in playing???

Just total made up *****. Kicking a guy when hes down. Hed play every minute of every game if he could.

You can say what you like, just know ots uncalled for


agree totally with this, JDH is an asset we ignore at our peril.

Unseen work
02-08-2024, 05:12 AM
agree totally with this, JDH is an asset we ignore at our peril.

In fairness he’s not an asset we’re ignoring, he’s an asset we’ve not seen kick a ball in a year with little explanation as to why.

He’s been out, came back to training and then disappeared again without much updates being provided at all

Then he started pre season, played a half and missed the trip due to a sickness bug and hasn’t featured at all since.

It’s all a bit strange.

Hope the lad is alright though and that it’s nothing more than niggles or an injury of some kind.

Dont think he seems the type of lad that just sits out for no reason or can’t be bothered

Albert Kidd 86’
02-08-2024, 05:22 AM
Am I correct in thinking it was that t*** LJ that kicked off this turn of injury for JDH, when he fouled him during training?

WellingtonHibby
02-08-2024, 05:25 AM
In fairness he’s not an asset we’re ignoring, he’s an asset we’ve not seen kick a ball in a year with little explanation as to why.

He’s been out, came back to training and then disappeared again without much updates being provided at all

Then he started pre season, played a half and missed the trip due to a sickness bug and hasn’t featured at all since.

It’s all a bit strange.

Hope the lad is alright though and that it’s nothing more than niggles or an injury of some kind.

Dont think he seems the type of lad that just sits out for no reason or can’t be bothered


If I had to describe him and his hibs career I'd say the term " minor setback"is apt

CapitalGreen
02-08-2024, 05:26 AM
If you think JDH is never available wait until big Myk returns.

JDH has played more than 2.5 times as many minutes as him since the start of 2023.

Unseen work
02-08-2024, 05:31 AM
If you think JDH is never available wait until big Myk returns.

JDH has played more than 2.5 times as many minutes as him since the start of 2023.

Myk just wasn’t selected for half the games though, big difference

MWHIBBIES
02-08-2024, 05:37 AM
Comments about him are bang out of order.

Obviously its frustrating having a player that cant play, but the suggestions ive seen about how his injuries are something hes orchestrated or that hes work shy or not interested in playing???

Just total made up *****. Kicking a guy when hes down. Hed play every minute of every game if he could.

You can say what you like, just know ots uncalled for

Totally agree with you. It's pathetic.

We lost Mcgeouch because that genius Lennon said the same things about him.

Personally hope JDH is okay and coping with missing so much of the thing he loves.

CapitalGreen
02-08-2024, 05:50 AM
Myk just wasn’t selected for half the games though, big difference

He was rarely selected because he was rarely fully fit. It was the case before he joined us, it was the case while he was here and it was the case after he left. Anyone thinking he’d return and suddenly be available every week needs their head examined.

Brooster
02-08-2024, 05:51 AM
He doesn't want to play for Hibs.....unless it's against Aston Villa of course.

McGruber
02-08-2024, 05:52 AM
The lack of communication doesn't help - though it's understandable. It's a tough one because medical details are and should be a private matter. What happens though when there is no communication on it is people start filling in the blanks and speculation/rumours start.

No idea what the issue is, whether it is physical or mental. Hope he is okay and on a slightly selfish note, whilst I wish him the best of health, hopefully we can move him on as soon as possible.

Heisenberg
02-08-2024, 06:05 AM
We’ve not heard a word about him since his mystery illness before the pre season trip. Seems quite clear to me that we are wanting to punt him.

Unseen work
02-08-2024, 06:05 AM
He was rarely selected because he was rarely fully fit. It was the case before he joined us, it was the case while he was here and it was the case after he left. Anyone thinking he’d return and suddenly be available every week needs their head examined.

Don’t think anyone is saying he will be available every week but last season he was available for alot of games for Swansea.

Swansea fans have said multiple times on social media about how he was fit and not selected.


According to Transfermkt he missed 6 games with a knee injury between November and December.

He then missed another 4 games in March with an unknown injury. After the injury in March he played for the Ukraine under 23 team at the end of March.

Fit and available and just not selected.

He was on the bench on 14 occasions but never got on. His total appearances for them was 10. If we got 24 appearances out of him in a season I’d be happy.

He was then not in the squad on 12 occasions but not listed as an injury.

MWHIBBIES
02-08-2024, 06:11 AM
He doesn't want to play for Hibs.....unless it's against Aston Villa of course.

How do you know this?

CapitalGreen
02-08-2024, 06:23 AM
Don’t think anyone is saying he will be available every week but last season he was available for alot of games for Swansea.

Swansea fans have said multiple times on social media about how he was fit and not selected.


According to Transfermkt he missed 6 games with a knee injury between November and December.

He then missed another 4 games in March with an unknown injury. After the injury in March he played for the Ukraine under 23 team at the end of March.

Fit and available and just not selected.

He was on the bench on 14 occasions but never got on. His total appearances for them was 10. If we got 24 appearances out of him in a season I’d be happy.

He was then not in the squad on 12 occasions but not listed as an injury.

I didn’t say he was always injured, I said he was rarely fully fit. He’s constantly on the brink of another serious injury. The idea of Myko is a lot more appealing than the reality.

Blaster
02-08-2024, 06:33 AM
We’ve not heard a word about him since his mystery illness before the pre season trip. Seems quite clear to me that we are wanting to punt him.

Or he doesn’t want to stay

Unseen work
02-08-2024, 06:41 AM
I didn’t say he was always injured, I said he was rarely fully fit. He’s constantly on the brink of another serious injury. The idea of Myko is a lot more appealing than the reality.

Has he ever had a serious injury? Or is it more knocks, twists and muscle strains

I’ve no doubt he will miss some games with injury etc, but that’s why you recruit more options. If we have Vente, Myko and another that’s gives us a lot of options, then there is Youan who can play up there and if he’s fit and still here McKirdy.

NC1875
02-08-2024, 06:45 AM
He was rarely selected because he was rarely fully fit. It was the case before he joined us, it was the case while he was here and it was the case after he left. Anyone thinking he’d return and suddenly be available every week needs their head examined.

Agree, and it seems people are now justifying us not signing anyone for over a month as we’re waiting on the “right” players.

Junior Hoillet and Myko worth the wait ? Game changing signings ?

I’m not so sure, scrambling around signing what’s now avaialable more like.

More of the same from Hibs.

At least JDH will have a pal in the treatment room.

GreenPJ
02-08-2024, 06:47 AM
He doesn't want to play for Hibs.....unless it's against Aston Villa of course.

If this was true surely his agent would have helped find a solution as it's to no one's interest to still have him here not playing if he doesn't want to be.

Blaster
02-08-2024, 06:54 AM
If this was true surely his agent would have helped find a solution as it's to no one's interest to still have him here not playing if he doesn't want to be.

Someone has to want to sign him though otherwise he’ll sit tight and get paid.

Nicho87
02-08-2024, 06:54 AM
Slotted in to the Magennis role and more

Hope he gets fit but hibs should be looking to move on as soon as they can

BILLYHIBS
02-08-2024, 07:01 AM
I like JDH gets stuck in needs to cut out the yellows always plays a high press still young so should fit in well to our new style of play

Hope he is ok his situation to be reviewed as contract expiry approaches

GreenPJ
02-08-2024, 07:01 AM
Someone has to want to sign him though otherwise he’ll sit tight and get paid.

There are multiple clubs here and abroad who would look to sign him (if he was fit).

Blaster
02-08-2024, 07:08 AM
There are multiple clubs here and abroad who would look to sign him (if he was fit).

Hopefully you are right. I guess any delay is possibly down to getting close to what we are paying him

B.H.F.C
02-08-2024, 07:19 AM
We’ve not heard a word about him since his mystery illness before the pre season trip. Seems quite clear to me that we are wanting to punt him.

Aye, there is something going on there. They don’t even bother mentioning him anymore when they ask Gray about the team news.

Brightside
02-08-2024, 07:22 AM
He doesn't want to play for Hibs.....unless it's against Aston Villa of course.

This is bull****. I must have watched another JDH v edin city a few weeks back. Pathetic comment

Paulie Walnuts
02-08-2024, 07:24 AM
He was on the bench on 14 occasions but never got on. His total appearances for them was 10. If we got 24 appearances out of him in a season I’d be happy.

He was then not in the squad on 12 occasions but not listed as an injury.

24 appearances would likely mean missing about 17-18, possibly more if we go deeper in the Scottish Cup. In a full season, it would be pretty much half.

That would be extremely problematic if he was coming in to be our main striker.

I’d also suggest it’s easier to not get injured when you’re not getting on the pitch. With that in mind, I’m not sure him being able to sit on the bench a lot of last season tells us all that much.

blackpoolhibs
02-08-2024, 07:24 AM
He doesn't want to play for Hibs.....unless it's against Aston Villa of course.

I remember at the time thinking, how the **** is he fit enough for a game of that magnitude, but not fit for any games before or after?

Paulie Walnuts
02-08-2024, 07:26 AM
Ignoring JDH injuries, he’s just one we should be looking at moving on anyway. Not good enough imo.

easty
02-08-2024, 07:51 AM
Ignoring JDH injuries, he’s just one we should be looking at moving on anyway. Not good enough imo.

Yep.

I don’t think he’s deliberately making himself unavailable, but I don’t think he’d make even the slightest bit of impact if he available anyway. A player who’s very comfortable on the ball, but doesn’t really offer anything on top of that. Defensively weak, inept in attack.

BILLYHIBS
02-08-2024, 08:08 AM
Needs his mates from Dublin to be at all his games was totally outstanding against Ross County at Easter Road scoring a double in a 2-0 win and yes he even managed to get himself booked

Coco Bryce
02-08-2024, 08:09 AM
Ignoring JDH injuries, he’s just one we should be looking at moving on anyway. Not good enough imo.

Nobody else wants him either.

He's on a good wage at Hibs so will just see his contract out until it finishes next year.

superfurryhibby
02-08-2024, 08:14 AM
Don’t think anyone is saying he will be available every week but last season he was available for alot of games for Swansea.

Swansea fans have said multiple times on social media about how he was fit and not selected.


According to Transfermkt he missed 6 games with a knee injury between November and December.

He then missed another 4 games in March with an unknown injury. After the injury in March he played for the Ukraine under 23 team at the end of March.

Fit and available and just not selected.

He was on the bench on 14 occasions but never got on. His total appearances for them was 10. If we got 24 appearances out of him in a season I’d be happy.

He was then not in the squad on 12 occasions but not listed as an injury.

You’re happy with a player who would play approximately half our seasons games? That’s an expensive luxury of a player you’re describing.

Brooster
02-08-2024, 08:24 AM
This is bull****. I must have watched another JDH v edin city a few weeks back. Pathetic comment

No it's not.

Unseen work
02-08-2024, 08:27 AM
You’re happy with a player who would play approximately half our seasons games? That’s an expensive luxury of a player you’re describing.

If he was to play 24 games for as injury prone as people make out he is then yeah I probably would.

I think he’s got real quality and would really add to the team. If we had him and could bring in Vente, Youan or another striker when he’s missing then I’d be content with that.

Thats without knowing who else we could potentially get!

Greenio
02-08-2024, 08:34 AM
He doesn't want to play for Hibs.....unless it's against Aston Villa of course.

Exactly what im talking about. Just folk making stuff up to serve their own agenda

ekhibee
02-08-2024, 09:00 AM
I don't have anything against JDH but we have had a lot of players in the last few years with long term injuries or consistently injury prone. Although it's unfair to blame the individual, it does mean that a/ they're not playing much and b/ a bit of a waste of money because we're not getting the benefit of any contribution they could potentially make on the pitch. I would be totally against sacking a player for something that clearly isn't his fault, but at the same time a football club isn't a charity. I don't know anyway round it tbh

Smartie
02-08-2024, 09:03 AM
I don't have anything against JDH but we have had a lot of players in the last few years with long term injuries or consistently injury prone. Although it's unfair to blame the individual, it does mean that a/ they're not playing much and b/ a bit of a waste of money because we're not getting the benefit of any contribution they could potentially make on the pitch. I would be totally against sacking a player for something that clearly isn't his fault, but at the same time a football club isn't a charity. I don't know anyway round it tbh

Given the 2 players we are currently being most heavily linked with are the currently injured Hoilett and the injury prone Myko, I can think of one thing that might help get round it a bit.

I reckon we may be prone to signing injury prone players who are going to be potentially very good if we get them fit and keep them fit, but whose fitness issues may scare off bigger clubs than us.

H18 SFR
02-08-2024, 09:05 AM
Needs his mates from Dublin to be at all his games was totally outstanding against Ross County at Easter Road scoring a double in a 2-0 win and yes he even managed to get himself booked

He’s from Cavan. His mates will be raging when they read this!!!!

MWHIBBIES
02-08-2024, 09:27 AM
No it's not.

Back it up with something then. Or it will rightly be called out for being malicious rubbish.

CapitalGreen
02-08-2024, 09:42 AM
If he was to play 24 games for as injury prone as people make out he is then yeah I probably would.

I think he’s got real quality and would really add to the team. If we had him and could bring in Vente, Youan or another striker when he’s missing then I’d be content with that.

Thats without knowing who else we could potentially get!

Is that 24 starts or a handful starts plus 15-30 minutes here and there off the bench because he’s rarely fit enough to start?

Considering he has only ever started 27 club games in his career I’d imagine it would be the latter.

Blaster
02-08-2024, 09:58 AM
Back it up with something then. Or it will rightly be called out for being malicious rubbish.

I’d heard he told Hibs before the trip to the Netherlands he’d rather move on. Hence why he didn’t travel.

Exuberance1875
02-08-2024, 10:20 AM
Last decent game he played was probably at Parkhead when Youan got sent off, so ideally get him in the starting XI for Sunday

JohnM1875
02-08-2024, 10:21 AM
Last decent game he played was probably at Parkhead when Youan got sent off, so ideally get him in the starting XI for Sunday

He was different class in the 4-2 win against Celtic tail end of the 23/24 season

Pretty Boy
02-08-2024, 10:27 AM
I feel sorry for him.

I don't believe he is faking injuries or illness to avoid playing because I don't believe Hibs would allow that to happen. It's a serious allegation to level at anyone and I'm surprised at a few doing so who usually have plenty to say when other players are being abused and they don't like it. I didn't much like when Neil Lennon threw McGeough under a bus and claimed his injuries were all in his head and I don't much like it when fans do the same to JDH.

The guy could well be struggling, he's a football player who can't play and that must be hard. Add to that it's his livelihood and as it stands there is no guarantee that will still be the case next season. I think his time at Hibs is done, there is no way we can offer him another contract but he deserves better than allegations of falsifying illness to avoid work.

Largshibby
02-08-2024, 10:29 AM
I’d heard he told Hibs before the trip to the Netherlands he’d rather move on. Hence why he didn’t travel.

I find that very hard to believe. How is telling his employer he would rather move than go on a pre season training camp going to enhance his chances of finding another club?

Exuberance1875
02-08-2024, 10:30 AM
He was different class in the 4-2 win against Celtic tail end of the 23/24 season

Wasn’t that 22/23? We didn’t beat Celtic 4-2 last season, perhaps I’m wrong?

JohnM1875
02-08-2024, 10:33 AM
Wasn’t that 22/23? We didn’t beat Celtic 4-2 last season, perhaps I’m wrong?

Nah you're spot on, was 22/23 season

Blaster
02-08-2024, 10:35 AM
I find that very hard to believe. How is telling his employer he would rather move than go on a pre season training camp going to enhance his chances of finding another club?

He didn’t decide not to go. It wasn’t his choice.

I got told this from a good source. I believe it to be true, you don’t which is fair enough. But hasn’t been involved since.

Brooster
02-08-2024, 10:41 AM
Back it up with something then. Or it will rightly be called out for being malicious rubbish.

Haha I don't need to back up anything to you. Folk who've been around a bit know my track record.

HFC93
02-08-2024, 10:50 AM
I do wonder if there is more going on with JDH than just a physical injury. He's never mentioned in the club injury updates etc. It’s all a bit strange.

Heisenberg
02-08-2024, 11:09 AM
I do wonder if there is more going on with JDH than just a physical injury. He's never mentioned in the club injury updates etc. It’s all a bit strange.

Kenneh has gone the same way, seems a clear indication there isn’t a future here for them.

MWHIBBIES
02-08-2024, 11:15 AM
Haha I don't need to back up anything to you. Folk who've been around a bit know my track record.

Your track record of what?

Exuberance1875
02-08-2024, 12:01 PM
Him and Kenneh will be on scary money combined and both will contribute zero

Centre Hawf
02-08-2024, 12:06 PM
Going into the final year of his contract I think, hopefully we can find someone to take him on loan down in League 1 or something to hopefully pay most of his wage and wave goodbye to him. After a promising start of all of about 3 months he's been a shadow of that player ever since. He will not 'come good' for us when given a run because he hasn't for 2 and a half years now. Joe Newell and Josh Campbell divide opinion already amongst the support and both of them contribute far more than JDH has, does, or likely will ever do to Hibs.

If we want to improve as a team how about we start by replacing guys like this first. Next.

easty
02-08-2024, 12:08 PM
Going into the final year of his contract I think, hopefully we can find someone to take him on loan down in League 1 or something to hopefully pay most of his wage and wave goodbye to him. After a promising start of all of about 3 months he's been a shadow of that player ever since. He will not 'come good' for us when given a run because he hasn't for 2 and a half years now. Joe Newell and Josh Campbell divide opinion already amongst the support and both of them contribute far more than JDH has, does, or likely will ever do to Hibs.

If we want to improve as a team how about we start by replacing guys like this first. Next.

If JDH gets a League 1 club next season then his agent has played an absolute blinder

Centre Hawf
02-08-2024, 12:15 PM
If JDH gets a League 1 club next season then his agent has played an absolute blinder

It wasn't long ago that he turned down Forest Green Rovers and some Serie B teams according to the Scotsman. I wonder how much he's wishing he just went then and there.

w pilton hibby
02-08-2024, 12:23 PM
Him and Kenneh will be on scary money combined and both will contribute zero

How much are you talking about then?

Coco Bryce
02-08-2024, 12:29 PM
How much are you talking about then?

I would guess Kenneh must be on around £4k a week at least?

Came from Leeds and is an Liberian Internationalist :greengrin

Exuberance1875
02-08-2024, 01:00 PM
How much are you talking about then?

Anything more than £1k a week each is too much given what they’ve contributed and for how long we have them both.

They will very likely be on significantly more than that.

WestStandWillie
02-08-2024, 01:13 PM
plays a handful of games, out for months. Get rid and use the wages elsewhere.

BoomtownHibees
02-08-2024, 01:22 PM
If JDH gets a League 1 club next season then his agent has played an absolute blinder

Maybe League 1 in Scotland

ChuckNor
02-08-2024, 01:23 PM
JDH is fully committed to the club and as the OP said he would play every minute if he could. He was chomping at the bit to get back toward the end of last season. It was a real shame it ever quite happened for him.

There is a good player in there but I do have fears what his injuries have done to him. He is among the players the club is trying to move on.

J-C
02-08-2024, 04:22 PM
Kenneh has gone the same way, seems a clear indication there isn’t a future here for them.

Maybe a case of been told they're not wanted and to find a new club but due to good wages they're staying put, so been told they won't feature this season.

Tambo
02-08-2024, 04:28 PM
Will be remembered for his two crackers at home to Ross county and the Charlie Adam incident.

Nice guy I'm sure, unfortunately has not worked out at us and I wouldn't be hopeful of much action again this season.

Eyrie
02-08-2024, 06:54 PM
Doyle-Hayes seems have have turned into a combination of Latapy and McGinn during his injury enforced absences.

In the real world I've seen him play for Hibs often enough that I can be certain he's committed to playing well for us. But I've also seen him play for Hibs often enough to know that his good games are too few and too far between.

superfurryhibby
02-08-2024, 09:23 PM
Doyle-Hayes seems have have turned into a combination of Latapy and McGinn during his injury enforced absences.

In the real world I've seen him play for Hibs often enough that I can be certain he's committed to playing well for us. But I've also seen him play for Hibs often enough to know that his good games are too few and too far between.

Except you made that up.

Let”# face it, no one is has really over-egged his ability.

Very limited player, most of us would be delighted if he found a new club