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HUTCHYHIBBY
25-07-2024, 01:13 PM
For stealing £120k from her mother's bank account as the mother suffered from dementia. 🤬

Looking forward to her next column in The Evening News.

Trinity Hibee
25-07-2024, 02:03 PM
Disgusting

NORTHERNHIBBY
26-07-2024, 10:02 AM
Dementia is a horrible condition and so is greed. Major difference being you can't choose not to have dementia. What a complete ****bag.

JimBHibees
29-07-2024, 05:17 PM
For stealing £120k from her mother's bank account as the mother suffered from dementia. 🤬

Looking forward to her next column in The Evening News.

Who is that?

Edina Street
29-07-2024, 06:05 PM
For stealing £120k from her mother's bank account as the mother suffered from dementia. 🤬

Looking forward to her next column in The Evening News.

Dementia is a terrible thing.

If it were not for the dementia it is possible that her mother would be the first to come to her defence.

Want kind of parent wants their daughter locked up for two years over receiving their inheritance a few months early?

Very hard to judge cases like this when dementia is involved.

She could have had an agreement with her mother that she would remove the money for a number of reasons. Get around inheritance tax. Avoid the money being eaten up by care home expenses.

Perhaps her mother just forgot those agreements. Perhaps her mother when she was composmentis was even the orchistrator, but failed to take one thing into consideration. A hellish family affair, and possibly not everything as it seems.

Ultimately, nobody elses business.

LewysGot2
29-07-2024, 06:58 PM
Dementia is a terrible thing.If it were not for the dementia it is possible that her mother would be the first to come to her defence.Want kind of parent wants their daughter locked up for two years over receiving their inheritance a few months early?Very hard to judge cases like this when dementia is involved.She could have had an agreement with her mother that she would remove the money for a number of reasons. Get around inheritance tax. Avoid the money being eaten up by care home expenses. Perhaps her mother just forgot those agreements. Perhaps her mother when she was composmentis was even the orchistrator, but failed to take one thing into consideration. A hellish family affair, and possibly not everything as it seems.Ultimately, nobody elses business.She wasn’t an only child. Her sibling asked where a six figure sum had gone after her mother went into hospital. She had told her sister the remaining money was the estate to be divided between them. Her dad asked what had happened as he wasn’t comfortable with the story and she confessed to him. The money was spent on luxuries - no mention of agreement with her mum. She wasn’t entitled to do it. Her mother might as readily be asking why she thought it ok to spend her sibling’s share of the inheritance on holidays, luxury handbags etc Very sad.

Edina Street
29-07-2024, 07:23 PM
She wasn’t an only child. Her sibling asked where a six figure sum had gone after her mother went into hospital. She had told her sister the remaining money was the estate to be divided between them. Her dad asked what had happened as he wasn’t comfortable with the story and she confessed to him. The money was spent on luxuries - no mention of agreement with her mum. She wasn’t entitled to do it. Her mother might as readily be asking why she thought it ok to spend her sibling’s share of the inheritance on holidays, luxury handbags etc Very sad.

Still.

It is a domestic affair.

Does not mean that she did not love her mother.

Was her mother still married to her father? Was the sister a real sister or half sister? Why was she able to do this in the first place and go unnoticed for such a long time? Was nobody else in the family helping to care for her mother? Did they all appear out of the woodwork all of a sudden showing an interest after the death?

Was the sister that the newspaper speaks of, her mother's daughter? Or just her father's? What was her mother's opinion of those people?

Family affairs can be very complex. So much to unravel that we do not know.

NORTHERNHIBBY
29-07-2024, 07:35 PM
Dementia is a terrible thing.

If it were not for the dementia it is possible that her mother would be the first to come to her defence.

Want kind of parent wants their daughter locked up for two years over receiving their inheritance a few months early?

Very hard to judge cases like this when dementia is involved.

She could have had an agreement with her mother that she would remove the money for a number of reasons. Get around inheritance tax. Avoid the money being eaten up by care home expenses.

Perhaps her mother just forgot those agreements. Perhaps her mother when she was composmentis was even the orchistrator, but failed to take one thing into consideration. A hellish family affair, and possibly not everything as it seems.

Ultimately, nobody elses business.


Kinda strange then that she pleaded guilty if there's so much that's opinion rather than fact??

Edina Street
29-07-2024, 07:44 PM
Kinda strange then that she pleaded guilty if there's so much that's opinion rather than fact??

Well she did commit a crime.

But how come her father was not jointly in control of the estate and it was solely her "mother's estate?". What does that suggest?

Also not easy to give evidence against your daughter over what really is just money. A lot of fathers would not.

LewysGot2
29-07-2024, 07:48 PM
Still.It is a domestic affair.Does not mean that she did not love her mother.Was her mother still married to her father? Was the sister a real sister or half sister? Why was she able to do this in the first place and go unnoticed for such a long time? Was nobody else in the family helping to care for her mother? Did they all appear out of the woodwork all of a sudden showing an interest after the death?Was the sister that the newspaper speaks of, her mother's daughter? Or just her father's? What was her mother's opinion of those people?Family affairs can be very complex. So much to unravel that we do not know.She confessed. The laws are very straightforward whether families are complicated or not. Whether we think things are “just domestic situations” or not. They’re there to protect the vulnerable. Even if it was “an arrangement”/(and there’s no suggestion that there was) that would be trying to circumvent care laws, whether we think that fair or otherwise. Though it’s not what is being reported here. The sister is the mum’s biological daughter.

LewysGot2
29-07-2024, 07:49 PM
Well she did commit a crime.But how come her father was not jointly in control of the estate and it was solely her "mother's estate?". What does that suggest?Also not easy to give evidence against your daughter over what really is just money. A lot of fathers would not.It suggests divorce. Not uncommon.

Pretty Boy
29-07-2024, 07:56 PM
She confessed. The laws are very straightforward whether families are complicated or not. Whether we think things are “just domestic situations” or not. They’re there to protect the vulnerable. Even if it was “an arrangement”/(and there’s no suggestion that there was) that would be trying to circumvent care laws, whether we think that fair or otherwise. Though it’s not what is being reported here. The sister is the mum’s biological daughter.

If there was an 'arrangement' then you would have thought her lawyer would have made it a key aspect of his plea in mitigation. The fact that didn't happen suggests this was a simple breach of trust rather than some verbal agreement.

I'm not going to crucify her. No one knows what was going on in her head. Caring for someone with dementia is horrendously difficult and it could be it flipped something in her head. She's been caught, convicted, punished and hopefully rehabilitated. Equally though inventing a whole back story with zero evidence to back it up downplays what was still a wicked act regardless of why it was committed.

LewysGot2
29-07-2024, 08:09 PM
If there was an 'arrangement' then you would have thought her lawyer would have made it a key aspect of his plea in mitigation. The fact that didn't happen suggests this was a simple breach of trust rather than someone verbal agreement.I'm not going to crucify her. No one knows what was going on in her head. Caring for someone with dementia is horrendously difficult and it could be it flipped something in her head. She's been caught, convicted, punished and hopefully rehabilitated. Equally though inventing a whole back story with zero evidence to back it up downplays what was still a wicked act regardless of why it was committed.Absolutely.

Edina Street
29-07-2024, 08:13 PM
She confessed. The laws are very straightforward whether families are complicated or not. Whether we think things are “just domestic situations” or not. They’re there to protect the vulnerable. Even if it was “an arrangement”/(and there’s no suggestion that there was) that would be trying to circumvent care laws, whether we think that fair or otherwise. Though it’s not what is being reported here. The sister is the mum’s biological daughter.

I agree.

Leave it to the law, not social media.

If however we are going to cast opinions over domestic affairs, then we need the opinion of Mrs Moore herself. Or in this case, Janice Matthews. But Janice Matthews, whom gave power of attorney to her daughter whilst still with it, is no longer able to speak about what happened after she did so.

Trinity Hibee
30-07-2024, 08:16 PM
If there was an 'arrangement' then you would have thought her lawyer would have made it a key aspect of his plea in mitigation. The fact that didn't happen suggests this was a simple breach of trust rather than some verbal agreement.

I'm not going to crucify her. No one knows what was going on in her head. Caring for someone with dementia is horrendously difficult and it could be it flipped something in her head. She's been caught, convicted, punished and hopefully rehabilitated. Equally though inventing a whole back story with zero evidence to back it up downplays what was still a wicked act regardless of why it was committed.

Fully agree. Understand it’s an emotive subject but there’s no defending the actions no matter how unfortunate the situation is. Many of us on here will have experienced dementia and most will not have gone to these depths. The fact it was spent on designer handbags etc doesn’t fit with it being in relation to her mothers care.

superfurryhibby
31-07-2024, 08:16 AM
I agree.

Leave it to the law, not social media.

If however we are going to cast opinions over domestic affairs, then we need the opinion of Mrs Moore herself. Or in this case, Janice Matthews. But Janice Matthews, whom gave power of attorney to her daughter whilst still with it, is no longer able to speak about what happened after she did so.

Domestic affairs?: Nobody else's business.......

I'm not sure you see the irony of your posts. The leave it to the law , not social media. Then you go onto speculate wildly about the family yourself? The Ma's relationship with the husband, whether the robbing daughter loved her ma, the familial relationship with other siblings.

The whole point of appointing a power of attorney is that they act in your interest when you are no longer able to do so yourself. I very much doubt that meant robbing her bank account.

Just for the record, if everyone tried to avoid care home expenses, there would be a huge funding void to fill. That effects all of society, not just one person and their early collection of "inheritance". It might also have jeopardised her mother's possibility of a care home placement.

Theft is theft, whether the victim has Dementia is irrelevant.