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K-Zazu
24-07-2024, 07:46 PM
Anyone know what’s going on with Youan? Seen on the match thread someone saying he has a leg brace on?

LewysGot2
24-07-2024, 08:26 PM
He was on the side of the pitch at the end in a leg brace on his right.

ancient hibee
24-07-2024, 08:33 PM
Obviously this can’t be true as there’s been so many in the know posters on here telling us there’s nothing wrong with him and he’s in the huff because he wants a transfer.

Northernhibee
24-07-2024, 08:33 PM
It was an idiotic 50/50 for him to go for. 5-0 up with seconds to go and clatters into it. It’s Youan in a nutshell in terms of decision making.

IberianHibernian
24-07-2024, 08:37 PM
Watching tonight I kept thinking how much we were missing him . Not sure why he missed so many matches last season but if he stayed ( provided motivated and fit obviously ) he could make a huge difference and I don`t see us signing anyone better .

Mrimbetween
24-07-2024, 08:42 PM
Wwas hoping if Youan went it would be or a right good fee allowing quality players to come in with the widfall

Well by the looks of if it, that will be that for now

Tricla
24-07-2024, 09:05 PM
It was an idiotic 50/50 for him to go for. 5-0 up with seconds to go and clatters into it. It’s Youan in a nutshell in terms of decision making.

Harsh to criticise him for trying to win the ball. 5 nil up or not.

04Sauzee
24-07-2024, 09:14 PM
Gray says probably a couple of weeks

B.H.F.C
24-07-2024, 09:18 PM
Gray says probably a couple of weeks

I’m sceptical. When they start saying a couple of weeks, it never ends up being a couple of weeks.

Doyle-Hayes has been a couple of weeks away for the last 12 years.

Ozyhibby
24-07-2024, 09:20 PM
It was an idiotic 50/50 for him to go for. 5-0 up with seconds to go and clatters into it. It’s Youan in a nutshell in terms of decision making.

Wasn’t even a 50/50. It was keepers ball all day long.


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truehibernian
24-07-2024, 09:31 PM
I’m sceptical. When they start saying a couple of weeks, it never ends up being a couple of weeks.

Doyle-Hayes has been a couple of weeks away for the last 12 years.

I don’t think you’re far off the mark to be honest (with Youan). He’ll be sold before the window.

As for Doyle Hayes, that lad just doesn’t want to play football - I’m ultra cynical regards him and just don’t think he’s got the inner minerals or desire. When you consider Darren, Lewis and Paul all played (well) through numerous niggles, injuries, waited for surgeries yet still played, and all had to have various forms of pain relief to play through the pain barrier for this club and I see a lad like him getting cuddled through a long contract and it riles me. Add to that he offers very little when he plays anyway, he’s got to be one of our worst signings in a long long time.

MWHIBBIES
24-07-2024, 09:54 PM
I don’t think you’re far off the mark to be honest (with Youan). He’ll be sold before the window.

As for Doyle Hayes, that lad just doesn’t want to play football - I’m ultra cynical regards him and just don’t think he’s got the inner minerals or desire. When you consider Darren, Lewis and Paul all played (well) through numerous niggles, injuries, waited for surgeries yet still played, and all had to have various forms of pain relief to play through the pain barrier for this club and I see a lad like him getting cuddled through a long contract and it riles me. Add to that he offers very little when he plays anyway, he’s got to be one of our worst signings in a long long time.

He doesn't want to play football? Based on what?

Paul Hanlon missed many games for Hibs with injury, including us being relegated? Was that a minerals issue?

Darren misses years of his career with knee problems. Did he lack desire then?

TrinityHFC
24-07-2024, 10:32 PM
I don’t think you’re far off the mark to be honest (with Youan). He’ll be sold before the window. As for Doyle Hayes, that lad just doesn’t want to play football - I’m ultra cynical regards him and just don’t think he’s got the inner minerals or desire. When you consider Darren, Lewis and Paul all played (well) through numerous niggles, injuries, waited for surgeries yet still played, and all had to have various forms of pain relief to play through the pain barrier for this club and I see a lad like him getting cuddled through a long contract and it riles me. Add to that he offers very little when he plays anyway, he’s got to be one of our worst signings in a long long time.Pathetic nonsense.

Brooster
25-07-2024, 05:44 AM
I don't think we will be seeing Ellie this side of September.

SteveHFC
25-07-2024, 05:51 AM
I don't think we will be seeing Ellie this side of September.

Not what I want to read first thing in morning

GreenCastle
25-07-2024, 06:15 AM
I don't think we will be seeing Ellie this side of September.

MCL injury ?

hibsbollah
25-07-2024, 06:54 AM
Right, so thats Youan crocked now.

Its at this point that if the parallelogram of power kicked into gear, we’d be able to call on the signing targets we’ve obviously identified already (?) and we could utilise some of the 6million on a proven striker. There are at least 4 quality african strikers at Lorient, some in the Myziane price bracket, some less. One of their strikers Grbic, is banging around at Luzerne just finished a loan period, good pedigree, wont want to be playing ligue 2. Or that striker recalled by bournemouth who the french liked but ended up playing a bit part for bournemouth anyway. It doesnt have to be THESE guys, but someone of that ilk, and NOW. What is the point of the bournemouth connection otherwise? Are we serious about getting quality?

Why is this so much to ask?

KeithTheHibby
25-07-2024, 07:05 AM
It was an idiotic 50/50 for him to go for. 5-0 up with seconds to go and clatters into it. It’s Youan in a nutshell in terms of decision making.

Helpful comment.

Northernhibee
25-07-2024, 07:27 AM
Helpful comment.

It’s true though, isn’t it? It was an avoidable injury.

Game management is something as a squad we struggled with last year. That’s an element of it - wrap up the win, take the sting out of the game, avoid any injuries if you can.

Hiber-nation
25-07-2024, 07:30 AM
It’s true though, isn’t it? It was an avoidable injury.

Game management is something as a squad we struggled with last year. That’s an element of it - wrap up the win, take the sting out of the game, avoid any injuries if you can.

But it was nothing to do with his standard poor decision making on the ball. It was just an unfortunate accident.

Northernhibee
25-07-2024, 07:36 AM
But it was nothing to do with his standard poor decision making on the ball. It was just an unfortunate accident.

It was avoidable though. If it was at the end of the Kelty game where we were chasing a goal then that’s a completely different thing, the best thing to do at 5-0 up is not to commit to it as nobody is going to blame anyone for that at 5-0 up.

Genuinely don’t know why that’s somehow controversial or needs snarky replies like “helpful comment”.

Carheenlea
25-07-2024, 08:54 AM
The fact he’s a couple of weeks away at least is encouraging some ways as it sounds more like he’s going to be here for the season.

If he’s injured, in a leg brace yet still getting along to the game suggests he’s engaged and commited. (Kensell, take note)

Looking forward to seeing him back.

Smartie
25-07-2024, 08:58 AM
It was avoidable though. If it was at the end of the Kelty game where we were chasing a goal then that’s a completely different thing, the best thing to do at 5-0 up is not to commit to it as nobody is going to blame anyone for that at 5-0 up.

Genuinely don’t know why that’s somehow controversial or needs snarky replies like “helpful comment”.

Not sure I accept that the injury was unavoidable… other than maybe not having him on the pitch to get injured? And if he doesn’t get any game time then how is he going to get fit and either contribute for us or get the move he wants?

During a competitive game situations are going to arise where players might get injured. Youan is Youan and we know by now the sort of stuff he’s going to do if he’s on the pitch.

I honestly think this is more unfortunate than anything - and I say that as someone who has been quite critical in the recent past of both the player and our club.

GreenPJ
25-07-2024, 09:11 AM
It was avoidable though. If it was at the end of the Kelty game where we were chasing a goal then that’s a completely different thing, the best thing to do at 5-0 up is not to commit to it as nobody is going to blame anyone for that at 5-0 up.

Genuinely don’t know why that’s somehow controversial or needs snarky replies like “helpful comment”.

Ellie obviously has some beef with the club/some fans and may not necessarily want to be here. He has been heavily criticised by certain sections of our support in terms of his attitude/ability. That was the first game (?) this pre-season where he had any game time and it was apparent from his first involvement that he was up for it/wanting to prove a point. Yes in an ideal world he would not have gone in for the challenge but I think he was desperate to score regardless of what the scoreline was. Its a learning curve for him but think you need to give some consideration to where his mindset might have been.

We are great a criticising players when they don't show enough commitment and we then criticise when too much commitment is shown.

Greenio
25-07-2024, 09:15 AM
I don’t think you’re far off the mark to be honest (with Youan). He’ll be sold before the window. As for Doyle Hayes, that lad just doesn’t want to play football - I’m ultra cynical regards him and just don’t think he’s got the inner minerals or desire. When you consider Darren, Lewis and Paul all played (well) through numerous niggles, injuries, waited for surgeries yet still played, and all had to have various forms of pain relief to play through the pain barrier for this club and I see a lad like him getting cuddled through a long contract and it riles me. Add to that he offers very little when he plays anyway, he’s got to be one of our worst signings in a long long time.Ultra cynical is right

KWJ
25-07-2024, 09:56 AM
If he hadn't made an effort to get that ball he'd have got pelters for it.

hibsbollah
25-07-2024, 10:05 AM
If he hadn't made an effort to get that ball he'd have got pelters for it.

As usual, Elie cant win with some fans.

Pytheas
25-07-2024, 01:12 PM
Is he out of contract next summer? If so this injury could end up being a complete disaster. Instead of selling for 2m plus we could have a player who doesn't want to be here, playing not to get hurt and leaving on a free next year.

Ronniekirk
25-07-2024, 01:21 PM
The fact he’s a couple of weeks away at least is encouraging some ways as it sounds more like he’s going to be here for the season. If he’s injured, in a leg brace yet still getting along to the game suggests he’s engaged and commited. (Kensell, take note)Looking forward to seeing him back.He has hardly played though so will need more time to get fit then has to get match fit to get the best out of him So I expect we will ramp up our efforts to get a striker in before Season starts

TrinityHFC
25-07-2024, 01:31 PM
Is he out of contract next summer? If so this injury could end up being a complete disaster. Instead of selling for 2m plus we could have a player who doesn't want to be here, playing not to get hurt and leaving on a free next year.

He just got hurt trying…

K-Zazu
25-07-2024, 01:42 PM
Is he out of contract next summer? If so this injury could end up being a complete disaster. Instead of selling for 2m plus we could have a player who doesn't want to be here, playing not to get hurt and leaving on a free next year.

2026

Silky
25-07-2024, 01:46 PM
Harsh to criticise him for trying to win the ball. 5 nil up or not.

Fair point. Gets his fair share of criticism for not tackling and being a ****bag, then goes for one and is wrong to do so. Sure as night follows day, if he'd pulled out of it, there would be a thread on here berating him for doing exactly that!

Pytheas
25-07-2024, 01:47 PM
He just got hurt trying…A mistake he won't make again i'd guess. I'm not blaming him either, if I was at a club i wasn't going to sign another contract for and knew other clubs were interested theres no way i'd be steaming into challenges. Saw it with Emiliano last year, happy to take part in attacking play but never committed to a tackle or recovery sprint. I'd love to see Elie stay and play but if he ends up leaving on a free that would be a huge blow for Hibs financially, he's one of our only big assets. Edit: Just checked and he's signed on until summer 2026. So could still move in January for a big fee, less so next summer.

Dashing Bob S
25-07-2024, 04:35 PM
I’m sceptical. When they start saying a couple of weeks, it never ends up being a couple of weeks.

Doyle-Hayes has been a couple of weeks away for the last 12 years.

Genuinely forgot he was still here. Makes Kevin Thompson look like Ramos.

HendoDelivered
25-07-2024, 04:39 PM
Can’t see how he will be ready in 1-2 weeks if he’s in a knee brace personally. I’ll wager he will be out for a bit longer than that.