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ruthven_raiders
21-07-2024, 06:13 PM
After the disgraceful scenes at Roseburn Park on Saturday, local councillor said that if it means bringing an end to these games then so be it.....

Pretty Boy
21-07-2024, 06:14 PM
https://x.com/MDAFS/status/1814725008771719400?t=uUEhDuBTLON9UKhoEqYQiQ&s=19

Pesky west of Scotland FC and Chelsea fans at it again. Can't take them anywhere.

ancient hibee
21-07-2024, 07:00 PM
After the disgraceful scenes at Roseburn Park on Saturday, local councillor said that if it means bringing anejd to these games then so be it.....anejd???

04Sauzee
21-07-2024, 07:13 PM
anejd???

I'm guessing an end

LunasBoots
21-07-2024, 08:21 PM
Can't say I'm surprised, it's what they do wherever they go, they shouldn't be allowed these glamour ties in Edinburgh or anywhere else around Scotland, they are quite simply filth built on hatred.

GreenCastle
21-07-2024, 08:29 PM
Would be nice if Hibs showed some back bone and stopped the nonsense every time they visit Easter Road. Flags / flares / overcrowding etc.

Jamesie
21-07-2024, 08:52 PM
Money talks. Rangers will play future friendlies and competitive matches at Murrayfield, but the cricket club may, I suspect, reschedule its matches to avoid any repeat.

Jones28
21-07-2024, 09:02 PM
Would be nice if Hibs showed some back bone and stopped the nonsense every time they visit Easter Road. Flags / flares / overcrowding etc.

Aren’t we cutting their allocation?

ancient hibee
21-07-2024, 09:13 PM
I'm guessing an endOf course.Thank you.

chrisski33
21-07-2024, 10:36 PM
And what a surprise to hear the police did f all to stop it!

cabbageandribs1875
21-07-2024, 11:47 PM
Aren’t we cutting their allocation?we're skint, so i'll guess NO :greengrin

JimBHibees
22-07-2024, 12:43 AM
And what a surprise to hear the police did f all to stop it!

Shameful unaccountable

He's here!
22-07-2024, 09:13 AM
And what a surprise to hear the police did f all to stop it!

In an ideal world they'd have stepped in to ensure the cricket match continued and had the Rangers match abandoned instead.

Oscar T Grouch
22-07-2024, 09:20 AM
And no surprise to hear the hun infested police did f all to stop it!

FTFY :aok:

He's here!
22-07-2024, 09:37 AM
Without wishing to extend Rangers fans an inch of leeway I do wonder how respectful fans of other clubs would have been after a few beers in a similar situation. I remember being on a Hibs supporters bus to Perth once and we got dropped off near a women's hockey match. A lot of the sexist bile directed at them went way beyond amiable banter.

That was a good number of years ago though. I'd like to think things have moved on since then and that this sort of stuff is mostly the preserve of unreconstructed Rangers fans. I hope charges are brought if required over the alleged assaults. Must surely be plenty cameras around Murrayfied?

DaveF
22-07-2024, 09:42 AM
Without wishing to extend Rangers fans an inch of leeway I do wonder how respectful fans of other clubs would have been after a few beers in a similar situation. I remember being on a Hibs supporters bus to Perth once and we got dropped off near a women's hockey match. A lot of the sexist bile directed at them went way beyond amiable banter.

That was a good number of years ago though. I'd like to think things have moved on since then and that this sort of stuff is mostly the preserve of unreconstructed Rangers fans. I hope charges are brought if required over the alleged assaults. Must surely be plenty cameras around Murrayfied?

Lol, you absolutely cannot help yourself can you?

It wasn't other clubs, there isn't any need for whataboutery here, it was the Huns. End of.

Fwiw, when .net runs buses to.hampden.we stop at Clydesdale cricket and hockey club. No hurtful remarks, no disrespect, just football fans grateful for a place to have a few beers.

ancient hibee
22-07-2024, 09:45 AM
Lol, you absolutely cannot help yourself can you? It wasn't other clubs, there isn't any need for whataboutery here, it was the Huns. End of.Fwiw, when .net runs buses to.hampden.we stop at Clydesdale cricket and hockey club. No hurtful remarks, no disrespect, just football fans grateful for a place to have a few beers.I understand that some of the problems were caused by ManU fans.

DaveF
22-07-2024, 09:46 AM
I understand that some of the problems were caused by ManU fans.

Fair enough, whoever it was needs an injection of decency. No doubt rubbing shoulders with Huns didn't help.

He's here!
22-07-2024, 11:06 AM
Lol, you absolutely cannot help yourself can you? It wasn't other clubs, there isn't any need for whataboutery here, it was the Huns. End of.Fwiw, when .net runs buses to.hampden.we stop at Clydesdale cricket and hockey club. No hurtful remarks, no disrespect, just football fans grateful for a place to have a few beers.I don't doubt that, although it's a different scenario being glad of a sports club's hospitality and wanting to leave a good impression compared to walking past an event unrelated to your own and deciding to dish out needless abuse. There's no whataboutery intended. As another poster has mentioned, the incident may not have been solely down to Rangers fans, which kind of addresses my question as to how big a moron element football clubs retain among their fans from the days when, for example, 'get your t*** out for the boys' was deemed a perfectly acceptable chant to be belted out if a female happened to find herself on the pitch. All things considered, though, I'm in full agreement that Rangers fans top the eejit scale by a distance.

heretoday
22-07-2024, 11:14 AM
I understand that some of the problems were caused by ManU fans.

Not much fun being in a crowd of them, I can tell you.

Scouse Hibee
22-07-2024, 12:32 PM
Without wishing to extend Rangers fans an inch of leeway I do wonder how respectful fans of other clubs would have been after a few beers in a similar situation. I remember being on a Hibs supporters bus to Perth once and we got dropped off near a women's hockey match. A lot of the sexist bile directed at them went way beyond amiable banter.

That was a good number of years ago though. I'd like to think things have moved on since then and that this sort of stuff is mostly the preserve of unreconstructed Rangers fans. I hope charges are brought if required over the alleged assaults. Must surely be plenty cameras around Murrayfied?

You’re spot on, this type of behaviour is ingrained in the **** of our society, they follow all clubs including ours whether folk like to admit it or not!

He's here!
23-07-2024, 11:28 AM
You’re spot on, this type of behaviour is ingrained in the **** of our society, they follow all clubs including ours whether folk like to admit it or not!Agreed. I actually met a former work colleague of mine who's a big Man U fan yesterday and she said the situation was badly managed in the first place because the cricket club play in Roseburn public park which thousands of fans were basically walking across to get to the stadium. Doesn't excuse the moronic behaviour but the scheduling seems to have been ill conceived.

gbhibby
23-07-2024, 12:34 PM
Agreed. I actually met a former work colleague of mine who's a big Man U fan yesterday and she said the situation was badly managed in the first place because the cricket club play in Roseburn public park which thousands of fans were basically walking across to get to the stadium. Doesn't excuse the moronic behaviour but the scheduling seems to have been ill conceived.
Was it too much of an effort to walk around the cricket pitch.

Scouse Hibee
23-07-2024, 12:49 PM
Was it too much of an effort to walk around the cricket pitch.

It has nothing to do with effort, the folk who walked across the pitch lacked deceny morals, manners and are indicative of many of today’s society.

Springbank
23-07-2024, 12:58 PM
After the racist chanting during the Eulogy tribute to Ron Gordon, and the disgraceful chanting during Martin Boyle's serious injury, I would ban Rangers for a decade, minimum. This is a European capital city, not some British municipal backwater. They can keep their divisive British bile out of Edinburgh, thank you.

hibsbollah
23-07-2024, 01:19 PM
Agreed. I actually met a former work colleague of mine who's a big Man U fan yesterday and she said the situation was badly managed in the first place because the cricket club play in Roseburn public park which thousands of fans were basically walking across to get to the stadium. Doesn't excuse the moronic behaviour but the scheduling seems to have been ill conceived.

This ‘all fans have a few bad apples’ chat is of course linguistically true, but irrelevant to the main point, which is there are SOME teams that have a particularly nasty element and always have, we all know who they are and we all know why. You may as well say theres no higher likelihood of witnessing trouble with a Millwall crowd than say, QPR. Rangers are the worst fans, end of story.

gbhibby
23-07-2024, 01:20 PM
It has nothing to do with effort, the folk who walked across the pitch lacked deceny morals, manners and are indicative of many of today’s society.
Agree, my comment about effort having played on that pitch was that to walk around the pitch would only add a few seconds onto the journey to the stadium. Did these fans think they were at Harrison Park.

Mantis Toboggan
23-07-2024, 05:47 PM
Yeah let's blame the cricket team for having the cheek to play on their usual day in their usual place. Usual trolling from the usual people.

ancient hibee
23-07-2024, 05:52 PM
Agreed. I actually met a former work colleague of mine who's a big Man U fan yesterday and she said the situation was badly managed in the first place because the cricket club play in Roseburn public park which thousands of fans were basically walking across to get to the stadium. Doesn't excuse the moronic behaviour but the scheduling seems to have been ill conceived.That presumably shows the sense of entitlement of a typical ManU fan. The schedule was not ill conceived it just requires football fans to act like normal people.

He's here!
23-07-2024, 06:42 PM
That presumably shows the sense of entitlement of a typical ManU fan. The schedule was not ill conceived it just requires football fans to act like normal people.

In her view most fans WERE trying to walk round the boundary but with so many people streaming en masse to the stadium some were simply not giving a f*** which is where the issues stemmed from.

My sympathy lies 100% with the cricketers but it's not a situation like, say, the Meadows where cricket matches take place and the punters are all coming and going at different times, some even settling down to watch the match. I'm just surprised the police weren't more on it in terms of planning for a 50k crowd of football fans and the effect that might have on other events.

ancient hibee
23-07-2024, 06:59 PM
Seems Police only observe crowds instead of controlling them.In the days of Leith Franklin and Leith Albion playing on the Links a concrete path went through the Albion field inside the boundary. There were two benches beside the path often occupied by old dears and shopping and the odd fielder behind them. Don’t think anyone was ever hurt.

JimBHibees
23-07-2024, 07:33 PM
Yeah let's blame the cricket team for having the cheek to play on their usual day in their usual place. Usual trolling from the usual people.

Indeed

He's here!
23-07-2024, 07:53 PM
Seems Police only observe crowds instead of controlling them.In the days of Leith Franklin and Leith Albion playing on the Links a concrete path went through the Albion field inside the boundary. There were two benches beside the path often occupied by old dears and shopping and the odd fielder behind them. Don’t think anyone was ever hurt.

Brilliant. Taking in a cricket match can be a very pleasant way to while away an afternoon.

BILLYHIBS
24-07-2024, 05:47 AM
Played many a game at Harrison Park and we had to stop the game as a wifie made her way across the diagonal path across the pitch corner flag to corner flag with pram messages and bairns in tow usually against North Mercky IIRC

gbhibby
24-07-2024, 09:11 AM
Played many a game at Harrison Park and we had to stop the game as a wifie made her way across the diagonal path across the pitch corner flag to corner flag with pram messages and bairns in tow usually against North Mercky IIRC

Admit it Billy you were the player that would aim for the water with your clearances.

Bristolhibby
24-07-2024, 09:32 AM
Would be nice if Hibs showed some back bone and stopped the nonsense every time they visit Easter Road. Flags / flares / overcrowding etc.

I thought we were giving them 200 tickets? At least that was the statement last season.

J

linlithgowhibbie
24-07-2024, 10:00 AM
I thought we were giving them 200 tickets? At least that was the statement last season.JNever ever saw that. Maybe reduce their tickets by 200 but no chance we were ever giving them only 200!

erin go bragh
24-07-2024, 10:56 AM
Would be nice if Hibs showed some back bone and stopped the nonsense every time they visit Easter Road. Flags / flares / overcrowding etc.

They all have fake printed tickets to get past the stewards and then double up through the turnstiles. They do it in most grounds.Thats why you cant see any of the steps when they are inside ER.
I know this as i have seen pictures of the fake tickets from a Ranger fan i work with.

JimBHibees
24-07-2024, 12:46 PM
They all have fake printed tickets to get past the stewards and then double up through the turnstiles. They do it in most grounds.Thats why you cant see any of the steps when they are inside ER.
I know this as i have seen pictures of the fake tickets from a Ranger fan i work with.

Why aren’t the tickets properly checked? Why don’t stewards and police not allow them to double up? Surely can be sorted if the will is there. Thought Daily record would be all over this 😳 Very dangerous

Chorley Hibee
24-07-2024, 12:50 PM
Why aren’t the tickets properly checked? Why don’t stewards and police not allow them to double up? Surely can be sorted if the will is there. Thought Daily record would be all over this 😳 Very dangerous

Someone will be seriously hurt, or worse, because of this.

Both Celtic and Rangers are guilty of this at every ground they visit, and the clubs (our own included), media, football authorities, and the police, keep giving tacit approval to their behaviour.

They all know it's happening, but none of them have a backbone to say, or do, anything about it.

There'll be a lot of questions needing answered the moment something goes horribly wrong.

BILLYHIBS
24-07-2024, 12:54 PM
Admit it Billy you were the player that would aim for the water with your clearances.Needed an oxygen tank back then and I was only 14 playing for Hutchie

gbhibby
24-07-2024, 01:16 PM
Needed an oxygen tank back then and I was only 14 playing for Hutchie
Was it the Landels who ran your team.

BILLYHIBS
24-07-2024, 02:32 PM
Was it the Landels who ran your team.Landells Jimmy Reynolds his laddie was with Hibs Mr Rudd Dougie Allan

ruthven_raiders
24-07-2024, 03:10 PM
I'm guessing an end

Yup an end didn't see that auto correct didn't work

Keith_M
24-07-2024, 04:31 PM
Why aren’t the tickets properly checked? Why don’t stewards and police not allow them to double up? Surely can be sorted if the will is there. Thought Daily record would be all over this 😳 Very dangerous

Hibs put a massive barrier check in place last season for exactly this reason... and The Rangers made an official complaint.

They also backed their fans that broke down a gate at Kilmarnock and charged in en-masse, claiming that it was the fault of the turnstiles being too slow and that their fans were in danger of being crushed in the queues.

When their club actively supports their behaviour, and condemns other clubs for putting safety measure in place, it doesn't make it easy for those other clubs to do something about it.

McD
24-07-2024, 05:30 PM
Hibs put a massive barrier check in place last season for exactly this reason... and The Rangers made an official complaint.

They also backed their fans that broke down a gate at Kilmarnock and charged in en-masse, claiming that it was the fault of the turnstiles being too slow and that their fans were in danger of being crushed in the queues.

When their club actively supports their behaviour, and condemns other clubs for putting safety measure in place, it doesn't make it easy for those other clubs to do something about it.


Same Kilmarnock match that rangers fans climbed onto the roof of the disabled section and the roof caved in - I think rangers/rangers fans group declared that Kilmarnock should have made sure rangers fans weren’t able to climb on the roof and indeed the poor rangers fans could have been injured when the roof collapsed

Keith_M
24-07-2024, 05:54 PM
Same Kilmarnock match that rangers fans climbed onto the roof of the disabled section and the roof caved in - I think rangers/rangers fans group declared that Kilmarnock should have made sure rangers fans weren’t able to climb on the roof and indeed the poor rangers fans could have been injured when the roof collapsed I'd forgot about that

:faf:

Bostonhibby
24-07-2024, 06:01 PM
Same Kilmarnock match that rangers fans climbed onto the roof of the disabled section and the roof caved in - I think rangers/rangers fans group declared that Kilmarnock should have made sure rangers fans weren’t able to climb on the roof and indeed the poor rangers fans could have been injured when the roof collapsedAll very true and quickly ignored, can you imagine if Hibs or Hearts fans did all of the above?

It's almost as if the huns are immune from police or football authorities action and can do what they like.

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SerenityGreen
24-07-2024, 06:26 PM
Played many a game at Harrison Park and we had to stop the game as a wifie made her way across the diagonal path across the pitch corner flag to corner flag with pram messages and bairns in tow usually against North Mercky IIRC I played for North Merci and can confirm this was definitely a regular occurrence. That and having to fish the ball oot the canal as well. I think I even went in for it once at training.

Stonewall
24-07-2024, 06:43 PM
Money talks. Rangers will play future friendlies and competitive matches at Murrayfield, but the cricket club may, I suspect, reschedule its matches to avoid any repeat.Why should the cricket club have to reschedule their matches. They already had to do this for Taylor Swift? It’s a short season and there are very few opportunities to reschedule matches.Congratulations you have managed to ignore the SRU’s greed and are acting like a Hun apologist. Disgraceful comment.

Stonewall
24-07-2024, 06:51 PM
Yeah let's blame the cricket team for having the cheek to play on their usual day in their usual place. Usual trolling from the usual people.Absolutely. There were kids, at least one girl and Asians playing in that game. There were police 50 yards away, they did nothing. Absolutely useless.

JimBHibees
24-07-2024, 07:31 PM
Hibs put a massive barrier check in place last season for exactly this reason... and The Rangers made an official complaint.

They also backed their fans that broke down a gate at Kilmarnock and charged in en-masse, claiming that it was the fault of the turnstiles being too slow and that their fans were in danger of being crushed in the queues.

When their club actively supports their behaviour, and condemns other clubs for putting safety measure in place, it doesn't make it easy for those other clubs to do something about it.

Agree **** is what **** does

JimBHibees
24-07-2024, 07:33 PM
All very true and quickly ignored, can you imagine if Hibs or Hearts fans did all of the above?

It's almost as if the huns are immune from police or football authorities action and can do what they like.

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Your last line it isn’t almost as if it is what they can do

Bostonhibby
24-07-2024, 07:37 PM
Your last line it isn’t almost as if it is what they can do[emoji106]

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