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Tambo
17-07-2024, 10:48 PM
3 games in 7 days starting on Saturday, I wouldn't expect a lot of changes for Kelty, would like to see Megwa, Amos and Levitt start this one.

Bursik

Megwa
Ekpiteta
O'Hara
Obita

Amos
Newell
Levitt

Boyle
Vente
Rudi

Would like to see Levitt from the first whistle at 0-0 to see if any improvement from last season, could always start wednesday vs Watford though.

B.H.F.C
17-07-2024, 11:19 PM
I think it’ll be the same team. He’s been able to get folk off the park early because of the shorelines. I don’t think he’ll take any chances, will look to win the game then get people rested in the second half again. Then all the players who haven’t been starting will get most of the Watford game.

JohnM1875
17-07-2024, 11:25 PM
Hope Amos gets a start and a good run out

Unseen work
18-07-2024, 02:07 AM
Same team, keep momentum going - although all depends on whether SDG feels he will actually start rudi first game of the season or if he’d go for Elie.

Hopefully be able to give Elie and Amos 45 minutes.

MWHIBBIES
18-07-2024, 05:58 AM
We must make some changes. These matches are ultimately part of pre season and we should be trying out different combinations, getting the whole squad fit etc.

Id like to see Amos, Youan and Megwa start.

Donegal Hibby
18-07-2024, 10:19 AM
Hopefully we go with pretty much our strongest team again , winning the groups important. Any experimenting , rotating the squad can be done in the Watford game as it's only a friendly.

GreenCastle
18-07-2024, 10:30 AM
Hopefully we go with pretty much our strongest team again , winning the groups important. Any experimenting , rotating the squad can be done in the Watford game as it's only a friendly.

I think the sport science staff will have a say as Boyle / Obita have played 90 mins last couple games and 3 games in 7 days may be an injury risk? Saying that it’s not like the games have been crazy high intensity.

If Youan is going they will be worried he gets injured (did we get any update how he is after the Queen’s Park collision?)

The balance has looked good in the team and ideally same starting team but we do need other players to get sharpness too so.

Out of all the subs - don’t think any have done enough to break into starting 11 as such.

Pretty Boy
18-07-2024, 11:01 AM
We shouldn't be making wholesale changes.

Get the group won, put ourselves in pole position for a seeded spot then make the changes for the home game against Peterhead. We should be winning both our remaining games but Saturday feels like a bit more of a potential banana skin with it being away from home against a team a league higher. Any slip up puts unnecessary pressure on the final game.

Peterhead and Watford still gives us plenty scope to get minutes in legs and try out a few different things.

MrRobot
18-07-2024, 11:07 AM
Hopefully be a game that we can get McKirdy, Amos and Levitt involved

Donegal Hibby
18-07-2024, 12:01 PM
I think the sport science staff will have a say as Boyle / Obita have played 90 mins last couple games and 3 games in 7 days may be an injury risk? Saying that it’s not like the games have been crazy high intensity.

If Youan is going they will be worried he gets injured (did we get any update how he is after the Queen’s Park collision?)

The balance has looked good in the team and ideally same starting team but we do need other players to get sharpness too so.

Out of all the subs - don’t think any have done enough to break into starting 11 as such.

PBs post is spot on imo , put out our strongest team to win the game . The Watford game we can rotate players and experiment with formations in , Peterhead game we could make a couple of changes in as it's at home and is probably easier than this away one , be good to win both and keep the momentum going.

Been no mention on Youan , Gray did say after the game that they hoped it was just a dead leg he had . 🤞

Exuberance1875
18-07-2024, 02:24 PM
Hopefully go as strong as possible, while perhaps one or two changes but nothing major I’d say, get some minutes into those who haven’t had much but wouldn’t make changes for changes sake.

Good to keep winning and winning well, good habit to get into!

ancient hibee
18-07-2024, 07:41 PM
Hopefully be a game that we can get McKirdy, Amos and Levitt involvedLevitt is strange. After he scored against QP he didn’t even look pleased. Maybe he wants to be somewhere else of course.

Hibernian Verse
18-07-2024, 07:43 PM
I think it’ll be the same team. He’s been able to get folk off the park early because of the shorelines. I don’t think he’ll take any chances, will look to win the game then get people rested in the second half again. Then all the players who haven’t been starting will get most of the Watford game.

The subs tend to come and go in waves.

MWHIBBIES
18-07-2024, 07:43 PM
Levitt is strange. After he scored against QP he didn’t even look pleased. Maybe he wants to be somewhere else of course. I mean, its the 4th goal in the easiest home win we'll have all season. He loved his goal against Celtic.

ancient hibee
18-07-2024, 07:47 PM
I mean, its the 4th goal in the easiest home win we'll have all season. He loved his goal against Celtic.Shouldn’t stop him looking happy or interested even.

MWHIBBIES
18-07-2024, 08:06 PM
Shouldn’t stop him looking happy or interested even. Why? He can feel how he likes if he is scoring.

Bridge hibs
18-07-2024, 08:23 PM
Is the game being streamed on Premier Sports on Saturday ?

ancient hibee
18-07-2024, 09:35 PM
Why? He can feel how he likes if he is scoring.Of course he can just as I can criticise him for how he reacts to scoring.

gramskiwood
18-07-2024, 09:48 PM
Is the game being streamed on Premier Sports on Saturday ?

Aye

Bridge hibs
19-07-2024, 05:25 AM
Aye

Cheers

Donegal Hibby
19-07-2024, 09:24 AM
I think this will probably be the team Gray goes with , not sure about their score prediction as I have feeling we will keep a clean sheet against Kelty. Donegal prediction 4-0 Hibs ....

https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/kelty-hearts/scottish-league-cup/preview/preview-kelty-hearts-vs-hibernian-prediction-team-news-lineups_548480.html?cQx=NN&newsnow

Dashing Bob S
19-07-2024, 09:50 AM
Anyone know what the Yam connection with Kelty Yams is? Did they bump war charities while professing heroic patriotism too?

Pretty Boy
19-07-2024, 10:26 AM
Anyone know what the Yam connection with Kelty Yams is? Did they bump war charities while professing heroic patriotism too?

Previous to Kelty Hearts there was a Kelty Rangers who went defunct in the early 70s.

There isn't much online to confirm how they came by their name. A bit of speculation that Hearts were the 'miners team' in Edinburgh and the Lothians so it made sense to call a team in a pit village after them but that seems tenuous at best. Given they were formed as an amateur team I'm not convinced it was anything other than some fans naming their playing team after the team they support.

I'd assume it's broadly the same for the likes of Thornton Hibs, the now defunct Blantyre Celtic and Cambuslang Rangers as well (albeit the latter 2 are far older than the Fife Hibs and Hearts). Interestingly there was a Cambuslang Hibernian sprung up about the same time as Cambuslang FC who later became Rangers but they went defunct in the early 20th century.

ancient hibee
19-07-2024, 12:53 PM
I was visiting friends of my parents in Clydebank in the 50s and we went to see Duntocher Hibs against Kirkintilloch Rob Roy who were one of Rangers'junior nursey clubs. It was like being at an OF game with almost as much fighting on the pitch, Don't know if either of these clubs exist now.

Pretty Boy
19-07-2024, 02:43 PM
I was visiting friends of my parents in Clydebank in the 50s and we went to see Duntocher Hibs against Kirkintilloch Rob Roy who were one of Rangers'junior nursey clubs. It was like being at an OF game with almost as much fighting on the pitch, Don't know if either of these clubs exist now.

Duntocher Hibs went out of business in the early 80s. There was a revived Duntocher Hibernian amateur side but they seem to have been inactive on all social media since 2019. Incidentally Glenhead Park which used to be the home of the original incarnation of Duntocher Hibs and is now home to Drumchapel Amateurs is still known locally as 'the Hibby'. Drumchapel wear red and black now but used to play in green and white and their away colours are still green. No idea about how they are faring these days but in the early 00s they were one of the best amateur sides in Scotland.

Kirkintilloch Rob Roy are still around. Play in the West of Scotland seniors.

dunfyhibby
19-07-2024, 02:59 PM
Previous to Kelty Hearts there was a Kelty Rangers who went defunct in the early 70s.

There isn't much online to confirm how they came by their name. A bit of speculation that Hearts were the 'miners team' in Edinburgh and the Lothians so it made sense to call a team in a pit village after them but that seems tenuous at best. Given they were formed as an amateur team I'm not convinced it was anything other than some fans naming their playing team after the team they support.

I'd assume it's broadly the same for the likes of Thornton Hibs, the now defunct Blantyre Celtic and Cambuslang Rangers as well (albeit the latter 2 are far older than the Fife Hibs and Hearts). Interestingly there was a Cambuslang Hibernian sprung up about the same time as Cambuslang FC who later became Rangers but they went defunct in the early 20th century.

Played against Kelty Rangers when I was under 14 with Hill o Beath Swifts. We absolutely hammered them, double figures if I remember correctly! They bricked our mini bus when we were leaving! 🫣🤣 Watch out fellow hibbys if you are going tomorrow! 🤣

04Sauzee
19-07-2024, 03:04 PM
Mckirdy available, Cadden and Youan out

Donegal Hibby
19-07-2024, 03:21 PM
Mckirdy available, Cadden and Youan out

Cadden about a week or so , Youan similar . Gray not going to take any chances with both .

Mckirdy being available is good news , good game this weekend to give him some minutes coming on has a sub for Vente possibly.

https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1814314502386844082?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

LewysGot2
19-07-2024, 05:01 PM
JDH trained with the squad today 🧐

ancient hibee
19-07-2024, 05:24 PM
Duntocher Hibs went out of business in the early 80s. There was a revived Duntocher Hibernian amateur side but they seem to have been inactive on all social media since 2019. Incidentally Glenhead Park which used to be the home of the original incarnation of Duntocher Hibs and is now home to Drumchapel Amateurs is still known locally as 'the Hibby'. Drumchapel wear red and black now but used to play in green and white and their away colours are still green. No idea about how they are faring these days but in the early 00s they were one of the best amateur sides in Scotland.Kirkintilloch Rob Roy are still around. Play in the West of Scotland seniors.Thanks.That’s very interesting .Kirkintilloch was a dry area in those days. I remember my dad saying that their supporters had brought enough booze with them to float whatever was in the yard in Clydebank.

Hibby Kay-Yay
19-07-2024, 06:09 PM
JDH trained with the squad today 🧐

Will need to be introduced to a lot of them giving how long he has been out.

Stanton Spence
19-07-2024, 06:48 PM
Will need to be introduced to a lot of them giving how long he has been out.

That’s if he doesn’t get injured tonight somehow

JammyDoidger
19-07-2024, 07:06 PM
We must make some changes. These matches are ultimately part of pre season and we should be trying out different combinations, getting the whole squad fit etc.

Id like to see Amos, Youan and Megwa start.

They're professional athletes, they'll be fit, Watford on Wednesday for the guys that haven't been starting, keep momentum going the boys with the shirt atm it's theirs to lose.

GreenCastle
20-07-2024, 07:30 AM
Scott Allan likely to be playing in midfield for Kelty today.

cocteautwin
20-07-2024, 07:44 AM
Anyone know what the Yam connection with Kelty Yams is? Did they bump war charities while professing heroic patriotism too?

By all accounts the owners are pumping in what might be termed "financial doping" so it's a similar method to the Edinburgh hearts but not quite on the scale of the Jambos who have spent, would you believe it, some £50m+ (Anderson: £33m+, FoH: £17m+) of donated money to achieve their recent success (of zero trophies).

EdinMike
20-07-2024, 07:47 AM
By all accounts the owners are pumping in what might be termed "financial doping" so it's a similar method to the Edinburgh hearts but not quite on the scale of the Jambos who have spent, would you believe it, some £50m+ (Anderson: £33m+, FoH: £17m+) of donated money to achieve their recent success (of zero trophies).

If you could add factual numbers and stats to that to be evaluated I’d love to look over them.

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 08:16 AM
They're professional athletes, they'll be fit, Watford on Wednesday for the guys that haven't been starting, keep momentum going the boys with the shirt atm it's theirs to lose.

They won't be match fit unless they play matches. If players are in Grays plans, they should be featuring in these matches.

cocteautwin
20-07-2024, 08:50 AM
If you could add factual numbers and stats to that to be evaluated I’d love to look over them.

Here's the link that shows the £17.3m that FoH have pumped in: https://www.foundationofhearts.org/

JAnderson's total donations of £33m+ can be seen in their Annual Accounts if you count back. It consists of £30m direct donations and also £3m of charity sponsorship (but that deal ended at end of last season).



For some independent verification of the amounts put in, BAnderson wrote an article here which showed the figure at some £41m, but this was at 30 June 2023:
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-extra-income-hits-ps41m-how-money-is-spent-at-tynecastle-with-benefactor-agreements-and-foundation-cash-4410505

Since then JAnderson has put in another £4.5m for season 23/24, FoH has put in an extra £1.5m, and the BAnderson number wouldn’t have included the £3m JAnderson contribution for the Charity sponsorships.

Previously one could have included the cash Budge put in in some total but she’s made sure she’s getting back every penny she put in at the start (with interest) whilst also still retaining the 14% of the shares that she didn’t hand over to the Foundation, so she’s effectively picked up 14% ownership for free.

Keith_M
20-07-2024, 08:53 AM
Mckirdy available, Cadden and Youan out McKirdy to score a hat-trick today.

greenginger
20-07-2024, 08:58 AM
Here's the link that shows the £17.3m that FoH have pumped in: https://www.foundationofhearts.org/ JAnderson's total donations of £33m+ can be seen in their Annual Accounts if you count back. It consists of £30m direct donations and also £3m of charity sponsorship (but that deal ended at end of last season). For some independent verification of the amounts put in, BAnderson wrote an article here which showed the figure at some £41m, but this was at 30 June 2023:https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-extra-income-hits-ps41m-how-money-is-spent-at-tynecastle-with-benefactor-agreements-and-foundation-cash-4410505Since then JAnderson has put in another £4.5m for season 23/24, FoH has put in an extra £1.5m, and the BAnderson number wouldn’t have included the £3m JAnderson contribution for the Charity sponsorships. Previously one could have included the cash Budge put in in some total but she’s made sure she’s getting back every penny she put in at the start (with interest) whilst also still retaining the 14% of the shares that she didn’t hand over to the Foundation, so she’s effectively picked up 14% ownership for free.Not quite for free . I think the she owns were Vlad’s niece’s share and Budge paid her around £20 k for them.

cocteautwin
20-07-2024, 09:12 AM
Not quite for free . I think the she owns were Vlad’s niece’s share and Budge paid her around £20 k for them.

Yes, I think you're correct. There was the token amount she paid over to purchase those so not quite free (but almost!).

cocteautwin
20-07-2024, 09:33 AM
Well anyway, I hope Gray puts out his strongest team to start today.

Dashing Bob S
20-07-2024, 09:48 AM
I’m worried because I’m no longer bothered about us coming a cropper in ties like this. Never happened before

Springbank
20-07-2024, 10:37 AM
50m to gift Hibs a money spinning replay one year AND the joy of knocking Hearts out the next year, as Holders

I love these FoH gimps, I really do🏆💚

04Sauzee
20-07-2024, 12:46 PM
Wasn't expecting that line up.

JohnM1875
20-07-2024, 12:47 PM
Wasn't expecting that line up.

Same, should be more than enough to put Kelty away though. Bursik being rested completely by the looks of it.

BoomtownHibees
20-07-2024, 12:47 PM
Smith
Miller
O’Hora
Rocky
Megwa
Amos
Levitt
Molotnikov
Boyle
Vente
McKirdy

hibee1875
20-07-2024, 12:48 PM
Wish someone would just come in and buy Youan now. Can only assume he’s being protected against that pitch

GreenCastle
20-07-2024, 12:48 PM
Same, should be more than enough to put Kelty away though. Bursik being rested completely by the looks of it.

Rested ?

He’s had nothing to do in 2 games apart from pick ball out net in last minute of Queens game.

BoomtownHibees
20-07-2024, 12:49 PM
Wish someone would just come in and buy Youan now. Can only assume he’s being protected against that pitch

He got carried off in the last game

Callum_62
20-07-2024, 12:49 PM
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Hibby Kay-Yay
20-07-2024, 12:49 PM
Wish someone would just come in and buy Youan now. Can only assume he’s being protected against that pitch

He got injured in the last game. SDG confirmed this.

Stuart93
20-07-2024, 12:49 PM
Hopefully goalie is just being rested and not injured

Good chance for mckirdy

JohnM1875
20-07-2024, 12:49 PM
Rested ?

He’s had nothing to do in 2 games apart from pick ball out net in last minute of Queens game.

He's rested or injured. I hope its rested

GreenCastle
20-07-2024, 12:50 PM
Wish someone would just come in and buy Youan now. Can only assume he’s being protected against that pitch

Gray said..

“Elie is in a similar situation. We all saw the collision that he went into at the end of the Queen’s Park game. We need to assess that one further and not take any risks.”

Basically we don’t want him playing and going into stupid 50/50s in the last minute as if he becomes injured we can’t sell him.

GreenCastle
20-07-2024, 12:51 PM
He's rested or injured. I hope its rested

Yup - hopefully rested. Assume he wants to see other keeper in action and make him feel part of the team.

GreenCastle
20-07-2024, 12:52 PM
Any left footers in that 11 ?

cubehindthegoal
20-07-2024, 12:53 PM
Wasn't expecting that line up.

Expected something different … can always revert closer to his favoured strongest current line up if he needs to .. I’m glad SDGs taking the opportunity to flex it a bit after two emphatic wins … be pointless doing otherwise today … and he will change it I’m sure if things aren’t going smooth.

Unseen work
20-07-2024, 12:55 PM
That team gives me the fear

…………………Smith…………

Miller……..O’Hora….Rocky…..Megwa…..

………………Levitt….Amos….

Boyle…………Molotkinov……McKirdy…….

……..……………..Vente…….

I don’t know if it’s just because it’s Kelty hearts, or we’ve started so well under gray but I was nervous for this game and thought it was a potential banana skin.

Cant see that midfield having the same work rate and intensity to win it back

That line up doesn’t help me nerves 🤣

Callum_62
20-07-2024, 12:57 PM
3 games this week, we were always going to mix up the team

Didn't expect quite so many changes in defence but we should still cruise this game

Looking forward to seeing amos

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JohnM1875
20-07-2024, 12:59 PM
3 games this week, we were always going to mix up the team

Didn't expect quite so many changes in defence but we should still cruise this game

Looking forward to seeing amos

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Same. Actually looking forward to seeing McKirdy as well. Obviously hope he scores.

Niffy
20-07-2024, 12:59 PM
Would LOVE to see McKirdy kick on today and be the next big thing.

IanM
20-07-2024, 01:00 PM
That team gives me the fear

…………………Smith…………

Miller……..O’Hora….Rocky…..Megwa…..

………………Levitt….Amos….

Boyle…………Molotkinov……McKirdy…….

……..……………..Vente…….

I don’t know if it’s just because it’s Kelty hearts, or we’ve started so well under gray but I was nervous for this game and thought it was a potential banana skin.

Cant see that midfield having the same work rate and intensity to win it back

That line up doesn’t help me nerves 🤣

Think we’re at the stage where the players included today need to show that intensity, desire and ability as we’ve seen the last 2 games.. should be curtains for some if they don’t.. rocky starting is definitely better than rocky coming off the bench

GreenCastle
20-07-2024, 01:01 PM
Chance for a few others to get minutes and do well but once again the lack of depth and quality is clear.

We should have more than enough to dominate the game though so let’s see how we do.

JohnM1875
20-07-2024, 01:02 PM
Think we’re at the stage where the players included today need to show that intensity, desire and ability as we’ve seen the last 2 games.. should be curtains for some if they don’t.. rocky starting is definitely better than rocky coming off the bench

You just know if we concede a goal, even if its a worldie from 40 yards it'll be Rocky that gets the blame from some.

Not meaning on here by the way, on social media.

Broken Gnome
20-07-2024, 01:02 PM
That team gives me the fear

…………………Smith…………

Miller……..O’Hora….Rocky…..Megwa…..

………………Levitt….Amos….

Boyle…………Molotkinov……McKirdy…….

……..……………..Vente…….

I don’t know if it’s just because it’s Kelty hearts, or we’ve started so well under gray but I was nervous for this game and thought it was a potential banana skin.

Cant see that midfield having the same work rate and intensity to win it back

That line up doesn’t help me nerves 🤣

I'd be the same in recent years, as you'd be more than justified in expecting a slow and uninspiring slog.

Think the one thing Gray has shown up to now is probably it's as much about the attitude and how the team is set up as it is what individuals may or may not be there. I'd be worried about this under Johnson or Montgomery, but nothing to suggest so far this Hibs side won't go in with the correct mindset.

Smartie
20-07-2024, 01:02 PM
First eyebrow-raiser from Gray.

A few players in need of a start getting one though.

Tambo
20-07-2024, 01:05 PM
Wasn't expecting that many changes, still confident enough for the win and 3 points.

Heisenberg
20-07-2024, 01:06 PM
No Kenneh or Harbottle, hopefully both away soon.

Manxhibs
20-07-2024, 01:07 PM
Like the look of that team, full of players with a point to prove. Feel another 5 goals incoming.

04Sauzee
20-07-2024, 01:08 PM
No Kenneh or Harbottle, hopefully both away soon.

Harbottle travelled with the team going by the pics

Stuart93
20-07-2024, 01:11 PM
It’d be handy if hibs gave us a run through of the changes

Really hoping our no.1 is just rested

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 01:15 PM
Good management by great to rotate.

JohnM1875
20-07-2024, 01:15 PM
It’d be handy if hibs gave us a run through of the changesReally hoping our no.1 is just restedhttps://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/july/20/team-news--kelty-hearts--a-/

erin go bragh
20-07-2024, 01:16 PM
It’d be handy if hibs gave us a run through of the changes

Really hoping our no.1 is just rested

No even on the bench is strange.

JohnM1875
20-07-2024, 01:17 PM
No even on the bench is strange.

“Chris Cadden, Elie Youan and Joe Bursik all miss out this afternoon.”

Sounds like an injury

greenlex
20-07-2024, 01:18 PM
First eyebrow-raiser from Gray.A few players in need of a start getting one though.Should be starting with our strongest team then make changes if the jobs done early. Eyebrow raised here.Start the ones needing games in the next game when the groups won.

Stuart93
20-07-2024, 01:20 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/july/20/team-news--kelty-hearts--a-/

Not really telling us much about it, seems more like an injury

cubehindthegoal
20-07-2024, 01:21 PM
That team gives me the fear

…………………Smith…………

Miller……..O’Hora….Rocky…..Megwa…..

………………Levitt….Amos….

Boyle…………Molotkinov……McKirdy…….

……..……………..Vente…….

I don’t know if it’s just because it’s Kelty hearts, or we’ve started so well under gray but I was nervous for this game and thought it was a potential banana skin.

Cant see that midfield having the same work rate and intensity to win it back

That line up doesn’t help me nerves 🤣

I thought Queen’s park might be a potential banana skin … happy how that worked out. I’d tend to give SDG a bit of trust at the moment rather than have any fear, think he’s earned it to date, even just as the manager in pre-season I mean, not even looking at his history with us.

JohnM1875
20-07-2024, 01:21 PM
Not really telling us much about it, seems more like an injuryAye, agree. Definitely seems that way. Hopefully nothing serious

Stuart93
20-07-2024, 01:21 PM
Whilst it’s a weaker team it should be more than enough for kelty

Few players with a point to prove as well

B.H.F.C
20-07-2024, 01:22 PM
Be interesting to see if the players coming in to the team, particularly middle of the park, keep the same level of work rate without the ball.

cubehindthegoal
20-07-2024, 01:25 PM
Should be starting with our strongest team then make changes if the jobs done early. Eyebrow raised here.Start the ones needing games in the next game when the groups won.

Fair point, and time will tell today if you’re right or wrong, and also if it becomes clear you’re potentially right, then how SDG fixes it during the match.

I don’t think it’s eyebrow raising tbh, but I get the concern kicking around, it’ll take some success in league matches to reassure. Hoping that happens 😊

cubehindthegoal
20-07-2024, 01:27 PM
Be interesting to see if the players coming in to the team, particularly middle of the park, keep the same level of work rate without the ball.

Yes, and I believe SDG will pay attention and learn from it too if not. He isn’t throwing us under the bus here … we need to relax a bit and go with the flow … been good so far.

HH81
20-07-2024, 01:30 PM
It's pre season still, we have to give all players a chance.

Mon Hibs

IanM
20-07-2024, 01:34 PM
You just know if we concede a goal, even if its a worldie from 40 yards it'll be Rocky that gets the blame from some.

Not meaning on here by the way, on social media.

I’m waiting on Rocky scoring a worldie today…

He’s got his critics, he’s lost his place but he gets his chance today

Hibee Mac
20-07-2024, 01:36 PM
Just to say it out loud, don't panic if that first team doesn't continue in the same vein as the team has to now.

McKirdy, Rocky and Levitt are not to the standard required so we are carrying a bit of dead weight in that line up.

He needs to rotate in what is essentially still preseason so I can see why he's done it, but I'm expecting a performance typical of last season's Hibs now I've seen the lineup.

I trust that Gray knows this is a weaker team though.

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Hibby Kay-Yay
20-07-2024, 01:36 PM
Looks like a 3-5-2

Smith

Miller
Rocky
O’Hora

Boyle
Levitt
Amos
Megwa
Rudi

McKirdy
Vente

Up-the-slope
20-07-2024, 01:41 PM
Think we’re at the stage where the players included today need to show that intensity, desire and ability as we’ve seen the last 2 games.. should be curtains for some if they don’t.. rocky starting is definitely better than rocky coming off the benchDoes anybody want a Rocky start :)

snedzuk
20-07-2024, 01:44 PM
Harbottle travelled with the team going by the pics

Harbottle 26 is in the kick about in front of me. No sign of Kenneh.

Donegal Hibby
20-07-2024, 01:47 PM
I would have started our strongest 11 for this , big decisions by Gray to make so many changes.
Also a big chance for both Levitt and Mckirdy to show what they can do ... Hopefully they take it.

Billy Whizz
20-07-2024, 01:47 PM
Looks like a 3-5-2

Smith

Miller
Rocky
O’Hora

Boyle
Levitt
Amos
Megwa
Rudi

McKirdy
Vente
Warm up some suggests a back 4
Miller O’Hora Rocky Megwa

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 01:49 PM
Warm up some suggests a back 4
Miller O’Hora Rocky Megwa

Indeed. It's nothing like a 352 anyway.

Keepthefaith
20-07-2024, 01:50 PM
Just to say it out loud, don't panic if that first team doesn't continue in the same vein as the team has to now.

McKirdy, Rocky and Levitt are not to the standard required so we are carrying a bit of dead weight in that line up.

He needs to rotate in what is essentially still preseason so I can see why he's done it, but I'm expecting a performance typical of last season's Hibs now I've seen the lineup.

I trust that Gray knows this is a weaker team though.

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Why expect it? Pretty clear that gray has the team playing differently. Great to see us more attacking and pressing better, pushing for more goals after going 3-0 up.

I'm not a Levitt fan but he did well on Tues. Also expect mckirdy to have enough against inferior opposition.

I'm comfortable with this team, allows him to test out exactly what you're fearful of!

Greenio
20-07-2024, 01:56 PM
Jees

A lot of nerves and pessimism.

Banana skin? Expecting a weak performance?

We'll beat them easily and keep another clean sheet, watch n see....if you can come out from behind the sofa! 😊

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 01:57 PM
Jees

A lot of nerves and pessimism.

Banana skin? Expecting a weak performance?

We'll beat them easily and keep another clean sheet, watch n see....if you can come out from behind the sofa! 😊

Honestly embarrassing. They drew with 10 man Elgin FFS.

Same rubbish peddled out before every game Vs lower league sides. "they'll be up for it" is my favourite. We've won 25 of our last 27 Vs lower league sides. They are rarely up to anything.

Lago
20-07-2024, 01:58 PM
.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240720/962c0ccb1cf7b0c9391658b948bbc9e2.jpgSent from my Pixel 7 Pro using TapatalkFor me that shows the lack of depth and quality in the Hibs squad.

H18 SFR
20-07-2024, 02:25 PM
Whits the keeper dain Tom?

Donegal Hibby
20-07-2024, 03:54 PM
Good management by great to rotate.


Honestly embarrassing. They drew with 10 man Elgin FFS.

Same rubbish peddled out before every game Vs lower league sides. "they'll be up for it" is my favourite. We've won 25 of our last 27 Vs lower league sides. They are rarely up to anything.

Still think it was good management?🤔

Your right btw , it is embarrassing!

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 04:17 PM
Still think it was good management?🤔

Your right btw , it is embarrassing!

Absolutely. His can't finish for our striker. He can coach a team to create chances for him and he did that. Nothing wrong with Hibs performance until the finishing shot was required.

Donegal Hibby
20-07-2024, 04:22 PM
Absolutely. His can't finish for our striker. He can coach a team to create chances for him and he did that. Nothing wrong with Hibs performance until the finishing shot was required.

He should have went with his strongest team , he didn't . It's not a pre-season friendly , it's one of only two chances we have of silverware and we're now in a position where we could finish runners up in our group and be unseeded. Poor management from Gray today .

Exuberance1875
20-07-2024, 05:02 PM
He should have went with his strongest team , he didn't . It's not a pre-season friendly , it's one of only two chances we have of silverware and we're now in a position where we could finish runners up in our group and be unseeded. Poor management from Gray today .

Agree. There was also plenty wrong with that hibs performance today, wild to think people think otherwise.

B.H.F.C
20-07-2024, 05:11 PM
Gray got that wrong today.

But Gray now needs to be given the tools to do the job properly. The same players will let him down as let a couple of managers down last season.

The Modfather
20-07-2024, 05:13 PM
Gray got that wrong today.

But Gray now needs to be given the tools to do the job properly. The same players will let him down as let a couple of managers down last season.

Scary to think that our season, as it stands with the league starting in 2 weeks, hinges on Newell & Campbell.

Stuart93
20-07-2024, 05:14 PM
Scary to think that our season, as it stands with the league starting in 2 weeks, hinges on Newell & Campbell.

Yet people still continue to be drawn in by it every ****ing season as if it’s suddenly going to work out!

A Hi-Bee
20-07-2024, 05:17 PM
Yet people still continue to be drawn in by it every ****ing season as if it’s suddenly going to work out!****in madness.

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 05:18 PM
He should have went with his strongest team , he didn't . It's not a pre-season friendly , it's one of only two chances we have of silverware and we're now in a position where we could finish runners up in our group and be unseeded. Poor management from Gray today .

Oh no, we might have to play St Mirren or Kilmarnock.

Hibs battered Kelty today. Not Grays fault imo.

Since90+2
20-07-2024, 05:20 PM
Oh no, we might have to play St Mirren or Kilmarnock.

Hibs battered Kelty today. Not Grays fault imo.

Two teams who finished above us last season? Yes, I'd rather avoid them at the first knockout stage if possible.

Exuberance1875
20-07-2024, 05:21 PM
Oh no, we might have to play St Mirren or Kilmarnock.

Hibs battered Kelty today. Not Grays fault imo.

Hibs battered Kelty? You cannot have been at the game today?!

InvertedFullBak
20-07-2024, 05:51 PM
Honestly embarrassing. They drew with 10 man Elgin FFS. Same rubbish peddled out before every game Vs lower league sides. "they'll be up for it" is my favourite. We've won 25 of our last 27 Vs lower league sides. They are rarely up to anything.Hang on a minute , were you not saying that you’d be able to get us out this group and it’d be 4 easy wins ?.

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 05:53 PM
Hang on a minute , were you not saying that you’d be able to get us out this group and it’d be 4 easy wins ?.

Yes. It should have been. Dreadful opposition.

Bridge hibs
20-07-2024, 05:54 PM
He got carried off in the last game

He walked off

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 05:54 PM
Hibs battered Kelty? You cannot have been at the game today?!

I was at the match yes. I saw us hit the woodwork 3 times, have a header off the line, have 16 shots to 4. Have 2/3rds of the ball. You must have been behind a pillar.

Exuberance1875
20-07-2024, 06:01 PM
I was at the match yes. I saw us hit the woodwork 3 times, have a header off the line, have 16 shots to 4. Have 2/3rds of the ball. You must have been behind a pillar.

Absolute statman, we barely created any clear cut chances that caused the keeper any real bother apart from two long range shots. 2nd half was very comfortable for them.


Few too many shandies at The King’s pre match it sounds like. There’s a reason most at the game were fairly unhappy throughout the entirety of the game.

In my opinion, it wasn’t a good performance and the result matched that. I honestly think if we’d played quicker like we did the other two games we’d have scored a few and created real chances, of course one of the shots that hit the bar goes in, like Mckirdy’s one it makes a difference, but I think you get my point.

BoomtownHibees
20-07-2024, 06:07 PM
He walked off

Pedant

Donegal Hibby
20-07-2024, 07:34 PM
Oh no, we might have to play St Mirren or Kilmarnock.

Hibs battered Kelty today. Not Grays fault imo.

Don't know about you but generally in cup competitions I want to see Hibs get the easiest tie possible , today's result will probably mean instead of being seeded and avoiding the old firm there's now a chance we could get them too .

Treating a cup competition as a pre season friendly by rotating the team when you haven't got the squad to do it , is the managers fault imo though your opinion on it earlier was , it was good management.😳

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 07:55 PM
Absolute statman, we barely created any clear cut chances that caused the keeper any real bother apart from two long range shots. 2nd half was very comfortable for them.


Few too many shandies at The King’s pre match it sounds like. There’s a reason most at the game were fairly unhappy throughout the entirety of the game.

In my opinion, it wasn’t a good performance and the result matched that. I honestly think if we’d played quicker like we did the other two games we’d have scored a few and created real chances, of course one of the shots that hit the bar goes in, like Mckirdy’s one it makes a difference, but I think you get my point.

I couldn't really give a **** what most at the game thought. It's not what I base my opinion on.

We hit the woodwork 3 times. Just because the keeper got nowhere near those, and they don't count as shots on target doesn't make them irrelevant.

Vente and Rudi also blazed easy chances over.

truehibernian
20-07-2024, 07:56 PM
I was at the match yes. I saw us hit the woodwork 3 times, have a header off the line, have 16 shots to 4. Have 2/3rds of the ball. You must have been behind a pillar.

What matters in the end ? Shots off woodwork or goals ? Utterly miserable embarrassing result, no sugar coating.

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 07:56 PM
Don't know about you but generally in cup competitions I want to see Hibs get the easiest tie possible , today's result will probably mean instead of being seeded and avoiding the old firm there's now a chance we could get them too .

Treating a cup competition as a pre season friendly by rotating the team when you haven't got the squad to do it , is the managers fault imo though your opinion on it earlier was , it was good management.😳

He didn't treat it as a pre season friendly. He played a team easily strong enough to win and set them up well. They missed half a dozen good chances and lost.

Can't wait for Gray to be beaten with this stick all season.

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 07:58 PM
What matters in the end ? Shots off woodwork or goals ? Utterly miserable embarrassing result, no sugar coating.

It was a crap result yes. But creating chances always matters. The team with 16 shots and 63% of the ball would win the game a lot more often than not.

truehibernian
20-07-2024, 08:05 PM
It was a crap result yes. But creating chances always matters. The team with 16 shots and 63% of the ball would win the game a lot more often than not.

We didn’t win - that’s the most important stat in any game of football especially against lower league opponents - a seriously bad day for Gray and not even a steep learning curve because he’s seen it under Johnson very recently and he failed to learn, read the mood of the support, and go with his strongest team - it’s all on the manager today, big time and a serious worry he’s not learned a thing from the last two/three seasons. We could go out the league cup in one of the easiest groups ever.

Gloucester Hibs
20-07-2024, 08:05 PM
Honestly embarrassing. They drew with 10 man Elgin FFS.

Same rubbish peddled out before every game Vs lower league sides. "they'll be up for it" is my favourite. We've won 25 of our last 27 Vs lower league sides. They are rarely up to anything.

Comments that precede unfortunate events…

What a ridder! 🙈

Donegal Hibby
20-07-2024, 08:51 PM
He didn't treat it as a pre season friendly. He played a team easily strong enough to win and set them up well. They missed half a dozen good chances and lost.

Can't wait for Gray to be beaten with this stick all season.

He could have picked a stronger team that would have had even a better chance to win this game and seen us on 9 points tonight , he could then have made some changes in the Peterhead game which should be abit easier considering its on our own patch .

Why change the team today , are we saving players for the Watford game which there is absolutely nothing at stake ? .

LJ done the same thing and we got knocked out , todays result doesn't make things any easier for us at all now .

Going with a weakened team on that pitch against a team that this game was like a cup final to them was naive , it was the wrong game to start making changes as we have found out the hard way .

I'm firmly in the Gray camp though he got that wrong today like some in our support did by dismissing kelty's chances .

MWHIBBIES
20-07-2024, 08:56 PM
He could have picked a stronger team that would have had even a better chance to win this game and seen us on 9 points tonight , he could then have made some changes in the Peterhead game which should be abit easier considering its on our own patch .

Why change the team today , are we saving players for the Watford game which there is absolutely nothing at stake ? .

LJ done the same thing and we got knocked out , todays result doesn't make things any easier for us at all now .

Going with a weakened team on that pitch against a team that this game was like a cup final to them was naive , it was the wrong game to start making changes as we have found out the hard way .

I'm firmly in the Gray camp though he got that wrong today like some in our support did by dismissing kelty's chances .

He absolutely could have. But he chose this match and fielded a team with more than enough experience, quality and ability to win. He was let down by the players he trusted.

Id say maybe Megwa at left back was an error. But otherwise, a strong enough team.

GreenCastle
20-07-2024, 09:00 PM
He absolutely could have. But he chose this match and fielded a team with more than enough experience, quality and ability to win. He was let down by the players he trusted.

Id say maybe Megwa at left back was an error. But otherwise, a strong enough team.

Not signing another left back and striker is an error before we started playing competitive games.

The clubs own naivety thinking they could get through all these games has come back to bite them.

Possibly not seeded for next round and losing MORE money if we get knocked out early.

Donegal Hibby
20-07-2024, 09:41 PM
He absolutely could have. But he chose this match and fielded a team with more than enough experience, quality and ability to win. He was let down by the players he trusted.

Id say maybe Megwa at left back was an error. But otherwise, a strong enough team.

That's were I'm coming from , in this was a potential banana skin , if we had went as strong as we could have and won the game we would have had two games coming up to change the squad , one a friendly and another that we wouldn't be under any pressure in like we are now with it .

Probably the biggest thing we learnt today is we haven't got a squad that's good enough to be rotated even against teams like Kelty . Hopefully see some signings soon .