The Midfield

[TheGog]

It’s been the problem for years. That same midfield have seen 4 managers sacked. The next one in has never addressed it.

I really hope Gray doesn’t blindly neglect the obvious issue there. Newell for me I’ve fell in and out of love with him too many times. Consistency from him is what we need. 1 game looks a warrior the next a mouse.

If Gray can get tune out of what we have then I’ll hold my hands up. I want to be proved wrong.

Newel, Campbell & NMW just doesn’t really fill me with confidence. JDH made of glass. We can’t comment on Amos at the moment.

Maybe I’m wrong but how has no manager of recent rebuilt that midfield?

Sorting the defence was key and a keeper. That midfield though jeeez. It’s almost the same midfield Ross had.

I’m not saying get them all gone, I feel JDH yes. NMW there’s a bit about him but I feel he’s similar to Campbell. None of our midfielders compliment each other. Individually yes, the mix we have isn’t great.

I’m honestly hoping Gray shakes things up in midfield.

He can’t be the 5th manager to see through that problem.

[Unseen work]

I actually like/rate the majority of our midfielders as individuals.

The issue lies with the system/shape and finding the right balance. Several of the players also need to play with a lot more consistency. We’ll have a structure and be harder to play through and be alot tighter so we’re less exposed, I think this will help everyone

Newell, NMW, Levitt, Amos and Campbell can certainly all offer something in this league.

JDH and Kenneh are the two I’d be happy to move on.

Hoping Levitt is like a new signing as I think we’ll see alot more of runs in behind, his passing will be key to this at times and hopefully show him at his best. Under Monty he played really good passes but they were 20 yards out from our own goal.

NMW is a Duracell bunny and his energy is infectious, he’s also really good at winning it back.

We’re crying out for a real attacking midfielder imo, Luke McCowan is the perfect fit imo for how SDG appears to want to play.

[TheGog]

I actually like/rate the majority of our midfielders as individuals.

The issue lies with the system/shape and finding the right balance. Several of the players also need to play with a lot more consistency. We’ll have a structure and be harder to play through and be alot tighter so we’re less exposed, I think this will help everyone

Newell, NMW, Levitt, Amos and Campbell can certainly all offer something in this league.

JDH and Kenneh are the two I’d be happy to move on.

Hoping Levitt is like a new signing as I think we’ll see alot more of runs in behind, his passing will be key to this at times and hopefully show him at his best. Under Monty he played really good passes but they were 20 yards out from our own goal.

NMW is a Duracell bunny and his energy is infectious, he’s also really good at winning it back.

We’re crying out for a real attacking midfielder imo, Luke McCowan is the perfect fit imo for how SDG appears to want to play.

Your first sentence mate. Agree so much. As individuals you can see their qualities they just don’t work together. I actually forgot about levitt. Always like him was excited when we got him. Was weird he said he signed for us as he wanted to be used higher up the pitch…this never happened. I thought he was going to be Scott Allan Esque.

Levit coached right and again with right midfielders around him will work.

We need a proper box to box terrier. Someone to let the shackles of newell and let him do what he does best.

[Unseen work]

Your first sentence mate. Agree so much. As individuals you can see their qualities they just don’t work together. I actually forgot about levitt. Always like him was excited when we got him. Was weird he said he signed for us as he wanted to be used higher up the pitch…this never happened. I thought he was going to be Scott Allan Esque.

Levit coached right and again with right midfielders around him will work.

We need a proper box to box terrier. Someone to let
the shackles of newell and let him do what he does best.

I’m really hoping Amos solves a big gap in our midfield and stays fit.

I think he’s quality and has everything needed for a modern midfielder. He’s fit, presses and wins the ball back well, really comfortable on the ball and is a goal threat.

Liked him at QPR and he’s shown glimpses of his quality with us in limited games.

Should he be fit he’ll be a starter imo.

https://vimeo.com/870078111 - a sign of what’s hopefully to come

[04Sauzee]

If only the transfer window hadn't slammed shut!

[Alfred E Newman]

One ever present in our poor midfield over the past few seasons has just signed a new contract and has been made captain so that narrows the field down when you come to try and improve it.

[Eyrie]

Newell, Amos and Moriah-Welsh with Campbell on the bench is a good midfield in this league. It's one attacking midfielder away from being good enough to secure European qualification.

The problem lies behind them with Levitt, Doyle-Hayes, Kenneh, Delferriere and Henderson. I don't share the blind optimism that Gray can improve Levitt so would be very relaxed if they all left to get regular game time elsewhere.

[Smartie]

I actually like/rate the majority of our midfielders as individuals.

The issue lies with the system/shape and finding the right balance. Several of the players also need to play with a lot more consistency. We’ll have a structure and be harder to play through and be alot tighter so we’re less exposed, I think this will help everyone

Newell, NMW, Levitt, Amos and Campbell can certainly all offer something in this league.

JDH and Kenneh are the two I’d be happy to move on.

Hoping Levitt is like a new signing as I think we’ll see alot more of runs in behind, his passing will be key to this at times and hopefully show him at his best. Under Monty he played really good passes but they were 20 yards out from our own goal.

NMW is a Duracell bunny and his energy is infectious, he’s also really good at winning it back.

We’re crying out for a real attacking midfielder imo, Luke McCowan is the perfect fit imo for how SDG appears to want to play.

Agree with all of this.

NMW and Amos are like new signings really - they haven’t played enough for us for us to form a solid opinion on although there have been flashes and reasons to be optimistic.

It’s a bit concerning that quite a few managers now have struggled to get a tune or find a winning combination out of a group of midfielders who individually look like they should be good enough.

I think we need a really good “number 10” - the type of player that Marcondes was signed to be, threatened to be but ultimately wasn’t for us.

Levitt’s the one with most to prove for me - he was bitterly disappointing for me last season and looks fairly ill equipped to make a contribution in the physical Scottish league.

[worcesterhibby]

Agree with all of this.

NMW and Amos are like new signings really - they haven’t played enough for us for us to form a solid opinion on although there have been flashes and reasons to be optimistic.

It’s a bit concerning that quite a few managers now have struggled to get a tune or find a winning combination out of a group of midfielders who individually look like they should be good enough.

I think we need a really good “number 10” - the type of player that Marcondes was signed to be, threatened to be but ultimately wasn’t for us.

Levitt’s the one with most to prove for me - he was bitterly disappointing for me last season and looks fairly ill equipped to make a contribution in the physical Scottish league.

I agree, while I’d love to see us signing an exciting box to box midfielder, it’s NMW and Amos who are really the “new signings” for this season. Newel is easily good enough for this league and Campbell and Levitt both offer something different, in that Campbell gets in the box and Levitt can score and has the ability to create chances. If we could just coach Campbell into being able to pass and improve the engine and bravery of Levitt, we would be laughing! NMW and Amos both need a run of games and to stay clear of injury, but I have high hopes for both.

[hibee1875]

Was weird he said he signed for us as he wanted to be used higher up the pitch…this never happened. I thought he was going to be Scott Allan Esque..

Where has this ever been said? Levit is not an attacking midfielder, never has been. His squad number is 6. He’s more of a deep lying quarterback type player than a Scott Allan.

[B.H.F.C]

Newell, Amos and Moriah-Welsh with Campbell on the bench is a good midfield in this league. It's one attacking midfielder away from being good enough to secure European qualification.

The problem lies behind them with Levitt, Doyle-Hayes, Kenneh, Delferriere and Henderson. I don't share the blind optimism that Gray can improve Levitt so would be very relaxed if they all left to get regular game time elsewhere.

Amos seems to be developing in to a very good player for us without actually making any impact. I hope he can be, obviously, but we’re going to need to see him on the pitch regularly soon. I don’t think any of us really know how good, or not, he is.

I was no fan of Levitt last season but he does have obvious ability and can do things that others can’t, IMO. He doesn’t belong on your second list, he’s got more about him than those other players.

[southern hibby]

Where has this ever been said? Levit is not an attacking midfielder, never has been. His squad number is 6. He’s more of a deep lying quarterback type player than a Scott Allan.

Was on the plane with Baldy Foghorn coming back from preseason abroad with the Hibs team also on the plane. This was just after Levitt signed and he told us he thought he was going to be used further up the field but he had been given the number 6 jersey.


GGTTH

[TheGog]

Was on the plane with Baldy Foghorn coming back from preseason abroad with the Hibs team also on the plane. This was just after Levitt signed and he told us he thought he was going to be used further up the field but he had been given the number 6 jersey.


GGTTH

Im sure he also said it in one of his first interviews

[One Day Soon]

Newell, Amos and Moriah-Welsh with Campbell on the bench is a good midfield in this league. It's one attacking midfielder away from being good enough to secure European qualification.

The problem lies behind them with Levitt, Doyle-Hayes, Kenneh, Delferriere and Henderson. I don't share the blind optimism that Gray can improve Levitt so would be very relaxed if they all left to get regular game time elsewhere.

Only if none of them get injured or suspended and we actually get the attacking midfielder. In my view that Midfield is about three to four signings away from being seriously capable of getting into Europe - your attacking mid, another with real pace, an actual playmaker and at least one for the squad/bench capable of putting real pressure on the first 11 picks.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Only if none of them get injured or suspended and we actually get the attacking midfielder. In my view that Midfield is about three to four signings away from being seriously capable of getting into Europe - your attacking mid, another with real pace, an actual playmaker and at least one for the squad/bench capable of putting real pressure on the first 11 picks.

Pretty much where I am at the moment too unfortunately.

[number9dream]

Amos had a good first season on loan at QPR then a very good second season of the three he had there under contract.
It shows what he can do but it’s also very little football for a 27 year old.
Fingers crossed he can be a big player for us.
He and Newell could click as the 2 in a 4-2-3-1 if that’s the way we go.

[Ozyhibby]

I like the look of Moriah-Welsh but all the rest I have doubts about. Amos, I’d like to see get fit.
All the rest have disappointed previously.


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[RIP]

Only if none of them get injured or suspended and we actually get the attacking midfielder.

In my view that Midfield is about three to four signings away from being seriously capable of getting into Europe

1. Your attacking mid
2. another with real pace
3. an actual playmaker

and at least one for the squad/bench capable of putting real pressure on the first 11 picks.

Not trying to pour cold water on that very reasonable assertion, but when was the last time we signed a midfielder that by the end of his first season, satisfied option 1, 2 or 3?

We may have some cash for Malky to spend but in our current position, I'm not convinced we would be able to poach anyone of quality from another club.

Love to be proven wrong though

[Forza Fred]

Josh Nisbet would provide the creativity we sometimes miss.

As far as I know he is still available with no transfer fee involved

[neil7908]

Newell, Amos and Moriah-Welsh with Campbell on the bench is a good midfield in this league. It's one attacking midfielder away from being good enough to secure European qualification.

The problem lies behind them with Levitt, Doyle-Hayes, Kenneh, Delferriere and Henderson. I don't share the blind optimism that Gray can improve Levitt so would be very relaxed if they all left to get regular game time elsewhere.

That attacking midfielder you mentioned is essential though. Amos is an uncertainty given he's not been fit for large chunks of time. Newell is a polarising figure amongst support for a reason imo.

I like Moriah-Welsh but he, like the other 2, creates and scores very little. That 3 if fit and firing on all cylinders is solid enough but offers very little goal threat.

We desperately need someone to chip in with 10 goals and link up the attack and defence higher up the pitch. That might be Rudi but he's very young.

[MWHIBBIES]

That attacking midfielder you mentioned is essential though. Amos is an uncertainty given he's not been fit for large chunks of time. Newell is a polarising figure amongst support for a reason imo.

I like Moriah-Welsh but he, like the other 2, creates and scores very little. That 3 if fit and firing on all cylinders is solid enough but offers very little goal threat.

We desperately need someone to chip in with 10 goals and link up the attack and defence higher up the pitch. That might be Rudi but he's very young.

Newell was directly involved in 13 goals. That is a brilliant contribution from his position. Hopefully can repeat that.

Campbell will also pop up with a few.

I agree a real quality attacking midfielder could add to our side, but it will be a tough one to find.

[Basildon Hibs]

Our midfield is soft as *****.
Has been for years.
We need some hard *******s in there.

[MWHIBBIES]

Our midfield is soft as *****.
Has been for years.
We need some hard *******s in there.

Or just more ability.

Our 2016 midfield didn't have hard ****ers in it. Marv was about 6th choice.

[Ozyhibby]

Or just more ability.

Our 2016 midfield didn't have hard ****ers in it. Marv was about 6th choice.

That midfield was very aggressive in closing down and winning the ball back. Can’t compare with our current midfield in that respect.
Out of possession is the biggest problem our midfield have. They are just east to play through. And it’s been happening for years now.


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[MWHIBBIES]

That midfield was very aggressive in closing down and winning the ball back. Can’t compare with our current midfield in that respect.
Out of possession is the biggest problem our midfield have. They are just east to play through. And it’s been happening for years now.


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They were coached that way and mostly played against crap championship teams, allowing time to learn and room for mistakes. That is a major factor.

[Hiber-nation]

Our midfield is soft as *****.
Has been for years.
We need some hard *******s in there.

Are there any genuinely "hard" midfielders in the league these days? We need quality and desire.

[Fergus52]

Only if none of them get injured or suspended and we actually get the attacking midfielder. In my view that Midfield is about three to four signings away from being seriously capable of getting into Europe - your attacking mid, another with real pace, an actual playmaker and at least one for the squad/bench capable of putting real pressure on the first 11 picks.


We qualified for Europe two seasons ago with a worse midfield than the current squad


If we sign a good attacking midfielder I think we'll be okay. If Gray is going to normally play with a back 3 then we don't need an out and out ball winner imo.

[tamig]

Or just more ability.

Our 2016 midfield didn't have hard ****ers in it. Marv was about 6th choice.

McGinn and Fyvie could look after themselves. That midfield had skill and steel

[Victor]

Are there any genuinely "hard" midfielders in the league these days? We need quality and desire.

NMW is tough. Couple of incidents yesterday when he came in hard and got away with it. Showed against Rangers that he can mix it. Unfortunately some referees will see his enthusiasm as reckless, so will no doubt pick up a few bookings. Amos on the other hand is a much more refined midfielder. Watching him yesterday you can see that he is always trying to find space and is looking for the killer pass.

[GreenCastle]

Or just more ability.

Our 2016 midfield didn't have hard ****ers in it. Marv was about 6th choice.

McGinn was everything our current midfield isn’t.

I said on the match day thread yesterday it’s obvious the midfield still isn’t right - still far too many gaps.

Campbell / Newell positionally leave spaces for even part time
Players to find between the lines.

We got better once NMW came on.

We still need a playmaker and even a midfielder who can just win tackles and give the ball to others but energy is a must or we will be one paced and predictable.

[Pretty Boy]

I think we need a bit of real creativity in there. Someone who can be a difference maker in a tight game with a bit of magic.

On the whole though Moriah Welsh has been a good addition, Amos has shown glimpses and could be a real find if we can keep him fit and Molotnikov looks like a really naturally talented footballer. That's 3 weeks didn't have this time last year. You also have Newell who does what he does and Campbell who will bring energy from the bench.

I'd like 1, maybe 2, but it's not as pressing an issue as it felt in January.

[LEaston87]

We need a quality attacking midfielder to come in and start in front of Newell/Amos/NMW/Levitt. I would also like us to play Molotnikov more and sell Campbell. From what I have seen Molotnikov could develop into a great player if he gets the game time, but theres been a lot of PR about Campbell this preseason I can’t see him leaving

[worcesterhibby]

We need a quality attacking midfielder to come in and start in front of Newell/Amos/NMW/Levitt. I would also like us to play Molotnikov more and sell Campbell. From what I have seen Molotnikov could develop into a great player if he gets the game time, but theres been a lot of PR about Campbell this preseason I can’t see him leaving

Why would you want to sell a Hibs supporting goal scoring, high energy midfielder ?

[B.H.F.C]

Why would you want to sell a Hibs supporting goal scoring, high energy midfielder ?

Quite simply, many people don’t think he’s that good.

[MWHIBBIES]

McGinn was everything our current midfield isn’t.

I said on the match day thread yesterday it’s obvious the midfield still isn’t right - still far too many gaps.

Campbell / Newell positionally leave spaces for even part time
Players to find between the lines.

We got better once NMW came on.

We still need a playmaker and even a midfielder who can just win tackles and give the ball to others but energy is a must or we will be one paced and predictable.


McGinn and Fyvie could look after themselves. That midfield had skill and steel

We cannot compare every midfielder to McGinn. He is levels above anything in this league and we'll probably not get another at his level for years.

Newell wins the ball and gives it to others consistently. So does NMW.

[LEaston87]

Why would you want to sell a Hibs supporting goal scoring, high energy midfielder ?

Because hes not very good for the level we want to be at (in my opinion)

[Donegal Hibby]

I'd rather be trying to move Levitt on rather than Campbell who least offers something to the team . JDH another I'd consider before Campbell as well .

Had a good game yesterday did Campbell and for someone that can't pass the ball , his through ball to boyle was excellent too.

[GreenCastle]

Sort it out - no where near good enough.

[MWHIBBIES]

Was always going to be hard without our only midfield player today. He's probably one I wouldn't have rotated.

[Coco Bryce]

I'd rather be trying to move Levitt on rather than Campbell who least offers something to the team . JDH another I'd consider before Campbell as well .

Had a good game yesterday did Campbell and for someone that can't pass the ball , his through ball to boyle was excellent too.

Campbell contributed zero when he came on today. Not even any bad passes. Nothing.

[Exuberance1875]

Was always going to be hard without our only midfield player today. He's probably one I wouldn't have rotated.

That’s no you mentioning Joe Newell again is it?

[percy veer]

Campbell contributed zero when he came on today. Not even any bad passes. Nothing.

Levitt got the full game utter crap from mouse heart again

[Hiber-nation]

Campbell contributed zero when he came on today. Not even any bad passes. Nothing.

I saw 5 passes/layoffs straight to Kelty players. I honestly thought he'd win us the match as well after doing so well the other night. So disappointing.

[Coco Bryce]

Levitt got the full game utter crap from mouse heart again

I agree.

[MWHIBBIES]

Levitt got the full game utter crap from mouse heart again

What did he honestly do wrong? He is our deepest midfielder, his job is to keep us moving forward and get it to attacking players. He did that fine imo.

[Hiber-nation]

Levitt got the full game utter crap from mouse heart again

Everything he does is at snails pace. I'd even try him in a more advanced role as he just doesn't move the ball quickly enough. Tidy player but we need miles better.

[CapitalGreen]

Was always going to be hard without our only midfield player today. He's probably one I wouldn't have rotated.

Newell has been involved in equally ***** away performances against lower league teams - notably Stirling Albion, Falkirk and Forfar.

[Mikey_1875]

. He's probably one I wouldn't have rotated.

I agree and it‘s hard to fathom why he wasn’t brought on either. We have put in bad performances with Newall in the team before so it’s not a guarantee things would have been different but he is our best midfielder and now our captain.

[MWHIBBIES]

Newell has been involved in equally ***** away performances against lower league teams - notably Stirling Albion, Falkirk and Forfar.

Sure yeah. He's still our best midfielder by a long way.

[EGL2000]

What did he honestly do wrong? He is our deepest midfielder, his job is to keep us moving forward and get it to attacking players. He did that fine imo.

Slows the game down so much, he needs to inject some urgency as he's the one who gets most of the ball.

[Broken Gnome]

What did he honestly do wrong? He is our deepest midfielder, his job is to keep us moving forward and get it to attacking players. He did that fine imo.

The only balls out forwards were getting today were long diagonals. Levitt plays far too slowly and very rarely is it incisive.

It's a personal thing, but he looks so non plussed about everything. Seems so little desire about him. He's meant to be a good footballer, he should be helping us break down sides rather than just be one ferrying the ball to 'better' players.

[Shrekko]

Campbell contributed zero when he came on today. Not even any bad passes. Nothing.

I don’t see this “high energy”, “hard working” player a lot of people seem to. If that’s truly the case you’d always notice it.

When we are behind or struggling to break down a team he is nowhere to be seen - ever. Giving away stupid fouls and throwing your arms around when we’re chasing the game is not being hard working, it’s trying to make it look like you are.

If JC is seen as a key player by the management team we’re in for a long season.

[Broken Gnome]

I don’t see this “high energy”, “hard working” player a lot of people seem to. If that’s truly the case you’d always notice it.

When we are behind or struggling to break down a team he is nowhere to be seen - ever. Giving away stupid fouls and throwing your arms around when we’re chasing the game is not being hard working, it’s trying to make it look like you are.

If JC is seen as a key player by the management team we’re in for a long season.

Would be daft to suggest he doesn't have talent - his ball for Molotnikov's goal in the midweek - but thought his limitations were really exposed today. Chasing that game against a stacked defence, he really wasn't capable of any clever touches around the box and was responsible for an awful lot breaking down.

The best I can argue for him as a long-term member of a squad pushing for the top five is an impact player in an open game.

[LunasBoots]

The midfield is mediocre and has been for years. As soon as Newell is taken out it just looks awful.

[Mango Man]

Was definitely a bit concerned when I seen the midfield pairing of Amos and Levitt starting today, thats the least dynamic pairing I can think of in our squad. Still early days with Amos, but I don't think I'm convinced with either of them.

[Crab apple]

Was definitely a bit concerned when I seen the midfield pairing of Amos and Levitt starting today, thats the least dynamic pairing I can think of in our squad. Still early days with Amos, but I don't think I'm convinced with either of them.

I'm a big critic of Levitt but by goodness Amos actually looked worse than him today. Part fitness if I'm being kind but I'm not convinced. Newell, NMW and Campbell should all be starting before that pair.

[CapitalGreen]

I'm a big critic of Levitt but by goodness Amos actually looked worse than him today. Part fitness if I'm being kind but I'm not convinced. Newell, NMW and Campbell should all be starting before that pair.

Campbell managed to be worse than Amos after he came on.

[Nicho87]

Midfield hasn’t been rectified or even close to being sorted to a competitive standard since Lennons 4th placed season finish.

Losing Bartley and Milligan was also a factor - I’m sure hecky then tried to implement mallan as a holding ball playing number 6, never worked, shock

Our current midfielders

Levitt - squad player at best. Watched the highlights from Tuesday this morning again, yes we were 5-0 up. One player ducked out the way from their goal. Yes, Levitt, to many times we see this, the non sprint back in the semi final v the sheep. I’d move him on, or as I said, squad player at best. If he’s a starter every week, long long season.

Newell - was always a bit meh on Newell. But today sums up how important he is. Noticed gray has been playing him a bit deeper. Least he’s physical and gets involved.

NMW - One to build and mould, like his energy, fails to see 90 minutes out though?

JDH - sell, always injured

Amos - tidy player, not really sure what the role is. Tuesday he seemed to be playing further forward, presumed he was more of a box to box or holding. Potential to be the sick note of the squad

Campbell - seems to chip in with a goal and assist. Improved a lot. Can we do better, absolutely. Gray seems to have him pencilled in as a number 10 so will get game time in this position I think rather than moved about each week.

Molotnikov - too young, I’d love hibs to get a naturally left footed player in, can’t recall last time we had one on the left wing.

[Crab apple]

Levitt got the full game utter crap from mouse heart again

Careful you'll get criticised from one or two on here for saying that about Levitt even if it's true. Awful player who should be moved on.

[Crab apple]

Campbell managed to be worse than Amos after he came on.

Opinions eh. I thought Amos was easily our worst player today.

[GreenCastle]

Midfield hasn’t been rectified or even close to being sorted to a competitive standard since Lennons 4th placed season finish.

Losing Bartley and Milligan was also a factor - I’m sure hecky then tried to implement mallan as a holding ball playing number 6, never worked, shock

Our current midfielders

Levitt - squad player at best. Watched the highlights from Tuesday this morning again, yes we were 5-0 up. One player ducked out the way from their goal. Yes, Levitt, to many times we see this, the non sprint back in the semi final v the sheep. I’d move him on, or as I said, squad player at best. If he’s a starter every week, long long season.

Newell - was always a bit meh on Newell. But today sums up how important he is. Noticed gray has been playing him a bit deeper. Least he’s physical and gets involved.

NMW - One to build and mould, like his energy, fails to see 90 minutes out though?

JDH - sell, always injured

Amos - tidy player, not really sure what the role is. Tuesday he seemed to be playing further forward, presumed he was more of a box to box or holding. Potential to be the sick note of the squad

Campbell - seems to chip in with a goal and assist. Improved a lot. Can we do better, absolutely. Gray seems to have him pencilled in as a number 10 so will get game time in this position I think rather than moved about each week.

Molotnikov - too young, I’d love hibs to get a naturally left footed player in, can’t recall last time we had one on the left wing.

Agreed..

I’m actually in the Newell still isn’t what we need to move forward camp. Squad player fine but captain and match winner / midfield general, sorry no.

JDH / Amos / Levitt can all go - offer minimal.

Campbell started off ok but needs to do it against better teams.

[Heisenberg]

Agreed..

I’m actually in the Newell still isn’t what we need to move forward camp. Squad player fine but captain and match winner / midfield general, sorry no.

JDH / Amos / Levitt can all go - offer minimal.

Campbell started off ok but needs to do it against better teams.

We aren’t going to get all the change we need in midfield in this window, just not possible. Might sign one if we are lucky.

[Donegal Hibby]

Levitt for me is similar to Ewan Henderson in there's moments in games were he does things that are very good though most of the time he's not contributing enough .

I thought today he might grab his chance though I didn't think he done enough again . Really disappointed in him so far.

[JohnM1875]

Levitt for me is similar to Ewan Henderson in there's moments in games were he does things that are very good though most of the time he's not contributing enough .I thought today he might grab his chance though I didn't think he done enough again . Really disappointed in him so far.Levitt is a weaker Stevie Mallan for me. Got a good shot on him that's for sure, but doesn't offer enough in game to merit a start.

[GreenCastle]

Levitt is a weaker Stevie Mallan for me. Got a good shot on him that's for sure, but doesn't offer enough in game to merit a start.

Would rather have Mallan than Levitt or Amos or JDH.

Least Mallan could take a corner - good freekick or shoot from distance and score.

We let Mallan go as we didn’t think he was good enough.

Scott Allan another ex player sets up the winner today too..you couldn’t make it up.

[MWHIBBIES]

Would rather have Mallan than Levitt or Amos or JDH.

Least Mallan could take a corner - good freekick or shoot from distance and score.

We let Mallan go as we didn’t think he was good enough.

Scott Allan another ex player sets up the winner today too..you couldn’t make it up.

Id rather have Mallan too. He was great in games like today.

[truehibernian]

For me it goes back to Jack Ross, even Lennon - the recruitment in midfield has seen a plethora of uninspiring, unimaginative, uncreative, and essentially bland midfielders who interchange in their mediocrity and lack spark, energy, creativity and braun. Yes you can point fingers at recruitment, but we’ve had Ross, Maloney and Johnson who could and should have pulled the plug/stopped these incomings at source - what we have now is around 10 midfielders none of whom for me actually would be seriously missed.

[GreenCastle]

For me it goes back to Jack Ross, even Lennon - the recruitment in midfield has seen a plethora of uninspiring, unimaginative, uncreative, and essentially bland midfielders who interchange in their mediocrity and lack spark, energy, creativity and braun. Yes you can point fingers at recruitment, but we’ve had Ross, Maloney and Johnson who could and should have pulled the plug/stopped these incomings at source - what we have now is around 10 midfielders none of whom for me actually would be seriously missed.

That’s what happens when you sign players based on WyScout and stats / potential.

Balance comes up a lot…if you play 3 in middle..you need..

You need a ball winner ?
Energy ???
Flair ???

We don’t have any of these - let alone 3 playing together.

[JohnM1875]

That’s what happens when you sign players based on WyScout and stats / potential.

Balance comes up a lot…if you play 3 in middle..you need..

You need a ball winner ?
Energy ???
Flair ???

We don’t have any of these - let alone 3 playing together.

Come on, we definitely have energy. Campbell and Moriah-Welsh are all energy. Both probably lack a bit on the technical side. The other two traits I’ll give you.

[Ozyhibby]

So long as our midfield remains as bad as it is, we will see zero improvement in our fortunes. This squad is heading for bottoms 6 again.


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[Trinity Hibee]

So long as our midfield remains as bad as it is, we will see zero improvement in our fortunes. This squad is heading for bottoms 6 again.


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If we finish bottom 6 again then there has to be some departures at board level. There are far too many getting paid handsomely and producing nothing. Actually getting quite concerned now at the running of the club which I’ve never felt in the past. Farmer and Petrie got stick but I never questioned their motives. I can’t say that with this board

[Ozyhibby]

If we finish bottom 6 again then there has to be some departures at board level. There are far too many getting paid handsomely and producing nothing. Actually getting quite concerned now at the running of the club which I’ve never felt in the past. Farmer and Petrie got stick but I never questioned their motives. I can’t say that with this board

The number of people employed in middle management is a concern. What really is David Marshall’s job? Would that money not have been better spent on a better quality midfielder?


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[number9dream]

Opinions eh. I thought Amos was easily our worst player today.

Didn’t see the game, mercifully. This is a real worry though since there were high hopes Amos would make a difference after a full pre-season.

[SickBoy32]

Didn’t see the game, mercifully. This is a real worry though since there were high hopes Amos would make a difference after a full pre-season.

I’ll second that opinion, Amos was brutal.

He was actually laughing at one point after shelling (another) pass out the park.

[gegs70]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023%E2%80%9324_Hibernian_F.C._season

Just looking at where our goals came from not many from midfield, maolida scored 11 goals from half a season. Hopefully some new players are being lined up?

[superfurryhibby]

The number of people employed in middle management is a concern. What really is David Marshall’s job? Would that money not have been better spent on a better quality midfielder?


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The club infrastructure does seem to be as bloated as our playing staff. That said, I'm not sure how it compares to the likes of Hearts or Aberdeen?

[Tambo]

If only Lee Johnson had got an upgrade on Jeggo and Campbell at the time things could have ended different for him.

Yet again this season I believe we need a 6 and a 10, Campbell and NMW has started well, I think we need better tho if we want to be top 4/5.

Amos has not featured much overall, got some stick for his performance on Saturday, Levitt could just be used as a sub.

[Ronniekirk]

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[The Modfather]

Newell
Campbell
NMW
Levit
Amos
JDH
Kenneh
Delfierre

We have actively chose to build the midfield for the next few years around Newell, Campbell & one other. Frightening.

[hibIBZ]

Newell
Campbell
NMW
Levit
Amos
JDH
Kenneh
Delfierre

We have actively chose to build the midfield for the next few years around Newell, Campbell & one other. Frightening.

For me Newell is the only one I would keep and even then he isn’t great all the time.

[GreenCastle]

None of the good enough.

Honestly would try find 3 new players to play in middle.

Newell included - especially as a CDM he’s playing.

Our midfield is woeful and the heartbeat of our team.

[LunasBoots]

Same midfield, there in lies the problem, no new additions, no improvement

[TheGog]

It’s been the problem for years. That same midfield have seen 4 managers sacked. The next one in has never addressed it.

I really hope Gray doesn’t blindly neglect the obvious issue there. Newell for me I’ve fell in and out of love with him too many times. Consistency from him is what we need. 1 game looks a warrior the next a mouse.

If Gray can get tune out of what we have then I’ll hold my hands up. I want to be proved wrong.

Newel, Campbell & NMW just doesn’t really fill me with confidence. JDH made of glass. We can’t comment on Amos at the moment.

Maybe I’m wrong but how has no manager of recent rebuilt that midfield?

Sorting the defence was key and a keeper. That midfield though jeeez. It’s almost the same midfield Ross had.

I’m not saying get them all gone, I feel JDH yes. NMW there’s a bit about him but I feel he’s similar to Campbell. None of our midfielders compliment each other. Individually yes, the mix we have isn’t great.

I’m honestly hoping Gray shakes things up in midfield.

He can’t be the 5th manager to see through that problem.


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[DH1875]

Have most of the folk on here not been banging on about how good Campbell will come this season or have got that completely wrong.

[we are hibs]

Have most of the folk on here not been banging on about how good Campbell will come this season or have got that completely wrong.Aye but he's not playing against plumbers and brickies now.

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[Coco Bryce]

Have most of the folk on here not been banging on about how good Campbell will come this season or have got that completely wrong.

Most? Don't be silly.

[DH1875]

Most? Don't be silly.

Certainly been a lot recently.

[NC1875]

Genuinely have never watched Josh Campbell and thought, he’s a player.

A championship/league 1 midfielder.

[Coco Bryce]

Certainly been a lot recently.

Maybe. Certainly not the majority as you suggested though.

[Alfred E Newman]

Genuinely have never watched Josh Campbell and thought, he’s a player.

A championship/league 1 midfielder.

And what about the rest of the duds?