View Full Version : Edinburgh's Roughest Pub
Brummie_Hibs
10-07-2024, 12:53 PM
Agree?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6A5SypYYxM&t=270s
HUTCHYHIBBY
10-07-2024, 01:14 PM
I saw that a few days ago, he never even went into Junction Street's roughest pubs!
Passed The Tam twice, never reached The Vine and could've paid The Spey a visit instead of The Central.
I watched his Blackpool one and that was crap too, probably what happens when you visit pubs on a Sunday evening though.
Edina Street
10-07-2024, 01:26 PM
Agree?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6A5SypYYxM&t=270s
Tokyo Joe's was kind of rough, for the short time it was open back in the 90's.
Bronco was the head doorman.
On the few occasions I was in there, the place got raided by Police. A brawl between Gladstones and TJ's kicked off. The Hibs Casuals came down tooled up looking for a certain character. A Gogo dancer got assaulted. A lad managed to make his way past Bronco clutching a metal bar intent on smashing someone over a Heroin dispute, but got taken from behind and punched in the back of the head about 50 times. And in the night club upstairs someone could not be bothered to wait their turn in the cubical queue and decided to take a dump right in the middle of the toilet. Not to mention the fact that the beer cellar doubled as a Thai imported/smuggled/bootlegged cheap, probably fake, Calvin Klein warehouse.
I actually was not in there much either. But certainly the roughest pub I have ever been in.
Pretty sure during one of the raids a TV crew was also there, and it got shown on one of those Police documentaries. The pub next door certainly got aired. Can't remember the name of it though.
Pretty Boy
10-07-2024, 01:33 PM
I served my drinking apprenticeship in the Goodies in Oxgangs from about 16. It was at the tamer end of the rough pubs but wasn't uncommon for it to kick off between the squaddies from the barracks at Redford and Dreghorn and the locals.
I have the odd post work pint in the Artful Dodger now and that has a bit of a rep, or did anyway. Always seems ok to me, maybe a bit too Hearts for my tastes.
I always find most pubs are fine if you keep yourself to yourself and don't go looking for bother or try to act the big man.
I've always found the pubs on Junction Street ok. Not salubrious by any stretch but I've been in far worse.
HUTCHYHIBBY
10-07-2024, 01:35 PM
I always find most pubs are fine if you keep yourself to yourself and don't go looking for bother or try to act the big man.
I concur, you've got to be pretty unlucky to get caught up in something through no fault of your own, no matter where you are.
Mon Dieu4
10-07-2024, 02:51 PM
I saw that a few days ago, he never even went into Junction Street's roughest pubs!
Passed The Tam twice, never reached The Vine and could've paid The Spey a visit instead of The Central.
I watched his Blackpool one and that was crap too, probably what happens when you visit pubs on a Sunday evening though.
Correct, not even the roughest pub in a 100 yard radius, the Spey is a million times worse than the Marksman will ever be
Hiber-nation
10-07-2024, 03:18 PM
Correct, not even the roughest pub in a 100 yard radius, the Spey is a million times worse than the Marksman will ever be
The Spey used to be alright as well, decent pint and nice bowl of stovies for lunch. Think it changed hands and got the fallout from another pub that closed then went right down the pan.
Edina Street
10-07-2024, 04:16 PM
I saw that a few days ago, he never even went into Junction Street's roughest pubs!
Passed The Tam twice, never reached The Vine and could've paid The Spey a visit instead of The Central.
I watched his Blackpool one and that was crap too, probably what happens when you visit pubs on a Sunday evening though.
I never ever thought of the The Tam 'o' Shanter as being rough in any way shape or form.
Was not the Ritz either. But it was my local back in the days before Singh's got burned down.
In two years of drinking in there daily I can't say that there was ever any real trouble to speak of.
A certain reformed Glaswegian Fine Artist used to be among the regulars as well. It is unlikely that a Fine Artist would frequent somewhere that is considerably rough, for to long.
Scouse Hibee
10-07-2024, 04:32 PM
Found some very decent people in so called roughest pubs, never had any bother anywhere.
Edina Street
10-07-2024, 04:58 PM
Remember when I lived in Greendykes before the flat I shared got demolished and left me requiring to spend a couple of weeks in Bethany House on Cooper Street, the White Hoose and some pub on Duddingston Park South became our local.
They took a lot of pleasure in the White Hoose of alerting us to the fact that this was the location of Coco Bryce's Acid Trip.
I must admit, the graffiti round the back did look familiar.
Also there was a couple of girls in there that thought my mate was good looking. That is the first time he ever got called good looking.
Then in that pub on Duddingston Park South, was not in there 10 minutes before some regular that found out we had just moved into an empty flat came over. He stopped short of handing us a price list of the items we could get delivered in the back of their removal lorry.
Brand new Three Piece Suites, Cinematic screens, and anything you want. Anything? Anything!.
Still, when it came to unpredictability, I would still say that TJ's out did them.
I never ever went back in the White Hoose. Not because it was overly rough, simply because I was not up to the standards of the girls that frequented there.
In fact, every time I listen to this song here, it reminds me of thone pub on D P S, and that guys squeal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYQzIw0zat0
Keith_M
10-07-2024, 06:26 PM
https://youtu.be/Caip9K52dsQ
(or if you're on Mobile https://youtu.be/Caip9K52dsQ)
Bostonhibby
10-07-2024, 07:01 PM
Back in the day Pickwicks next door to Porters in piershill used to be the place for spontaneous violence, one episode where nails fired from a nail gun were randomly pinging about, but for me, late 70's early 80's White Hoose at Craigmillar with the big alsatian running about on the roof was my scariest place to go, or not.
My uncle used to drink in the Gunner when he lived in Muirhouse, that seemed pretty scary to me then.
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Bridge hibs
10-07-2024, 07:16 PM
Back in the day Pickwicks next door to Porters in piershill used to be the place for spontaneous violence, one episode where nails fired from a nail gun were randomly pinging about, but for me, late 70's early 80's White Hoose at Craigmillar with the big alsatian running about on the roof was my scariest place to go, or not.
My uncle used to drink in the Gunner when he lived in Muirhouse, that seemed pretty scary to me then.
Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkThe Alsatian was on the Castle Tavern roof mate
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Bostonhibby
10-07-2024, 07:24 PM
The Alsatian was on the Castle Tavern roof mate
28038Yep, your right, trick of the memory, never been in either[emoji23]
Right next to the cop shop?
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Bridge hibs
10-07-2024, 07:35 PM
Yep, your right, trick of the memory, never been in either[emoji23]
Right next to the cop shop?
Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkNah that was further along mate
Bostonhibby
10-07-2024, 07:37 PM
Nah that was further along mateMagdalene boy, scared to venture out in Niddrie/Craigmillar. Used to get the bus to my uncle in greendykes though.
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Hiber-nation
10-07-2024, 07:55 PM
Back in the day Pickwicks next door to Porters in piershill used to be the place for spontaneous violence, one episode where nails fired from a nail gun were randomly pinging about, but for me, late 70's early 80's White Hoose at Craigmillar with the big alsatian running about on the roof was my scariest place to go, or not.
My uncle used to drink in the Gunner when he lived in Muirhouse, that seemed pretty scary to me then.
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Some scary boozers round that time, Dundee Arms aka the 'Nam. The Clock in Dalry was another. The Rock up the Pleasance was brutal as well.
Bridge hibs
10-07-2024, 07:55 PM
Magdalene boy, scared to venture out in Niddrie/Craigmillar. Used to get the bus to my uncle in greendykes though.
Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkI mucked about in Niddrie for a few years, actually thought the place wasnt bad, although going through the tunnel to Bingham was another matter, had to rev the plimsoles up 🤣
Bostonhibby
10-07-2024, 07:58 PM
I mucked about in Niddrie for a few years, actually thought the place wasnt bad, although going through the tunnel to Bingham was another matter, had to rev the plimsoles up [emoji1787][emoji106][emoji23]
Remember the tunnel well enough. A demarcation line between Bingham and niddrie and into Hay Drive and beyond. We used to keep pigeons and got some from a couple of guys up that end.
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Edina Street
10-07-2024, 08:02 PM
I mucked about in Niddrie for a few years, actually thought the place wasnt bad, although going through the tunnel to Bingham was another matter, had to rev the plimsoles up ��
But you wouldn't park your car there.
Watch till the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOzf1aut7tk
And I. More than a couple of people had to exit the Innocent railway prematurely, up a tree and over the wall on to Prestonfield Golf Course, quickly.
Pretty Boy
10-07-2024, 08:04 PM
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Remember the tunnel well enough. A demarcation line between Bingham and niddrie and into Hay Drive and beyond. We used to keep pigeons and got some from a couple of guys up that end.
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Someone thought it was a good idea to paint a mural in that tunnel a few years back. It was two hands from each end shaking with Bingham written on one arm and Niddrie on the other.
It took a weekend for someone to paint a fiver letter word beginning with C over Niddrie and someone else to burn the Bingham so it was just a black scorch mark. Community relations eh?
Bridge hibs
10-07-2024, 08:05 PM
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Remember the tunnel well enough. A demarcation line between Bingham and niddrie and into Hay Drive and beyond. We used to keep pigeons and got some from a couple of guys up that end.
Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkIt was all about stealth and good timing, hung about the demarcation line nervously awaiting the number 4 bus to freedom then as soon as it was within Alan Wells sprint territory it was a mad dash to avoid the bammy Bingham Banshees !
Bostonhibby
10-07-2024, 08:11 PM
It was all about stealth and good timing, hung about the demarcation line nervously awaiting the number 4 bus to freedom then as soon as it was within Alan Wells sprint territory it was a mad dash to avoid the bammy Bingham Banshees ![emoji23]
Cycled it a couple of times, just a kid but always felt okay going through Bingham as I knew quite a few folk there. What lurked beyond and in the tunnel was another matter entirely.
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Bostonhibby
10-07-2024, 08:13 PM
Someone thought it was a good idea to paint a mural in that tunnel a few years back. It was two hands from each end shaking with Bingham written on one arm and Niddrie on the other.
It took a weekend for someone to paint a fiver letter word beginning with C over Niddrie and someone else to burn the Bingham so it was just a black scorch mark. Community relations eh?Cumbie v YNT. Nae handshakes involved.[emoji16]
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Bridge hibs
10-07-2024, 08:14 PM
But you wouldn't park your car there.
Watch till the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOzf1aut7tk
And I. More than a couple of people had to exit the Innocent railway prematurely, up a tree and over the wall on to Prestonfield Golf Course, quickly.Poor guy thought it was a park and ride and got a shock when he returned from work 😬
Edina Street
10-07-2024, 09:30 PM
Anyone here from the 60's remember this guy?
For all I was not even born during the era he was flooding the pubs & clubs of Edinburgh with that Timothy Leary stuff, his name still crops up among the Golden generation even today.
In fact there is a facebook page dedicated to the guy, where they are asking people to send photos of Frank, if anyone has any.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC4grAasbT8&rco=1
Whilst I believe that his illicit substances caused a lot of deaths in Edinburgh, a lot of people must have had some good experiences on his products.
He is denounced and revered in equal measure.
I believe the guy was a bit of a Chungo, Dealer & Pimp rolled into one?
Scouse Hibee
10-07-2024, 10:51 PM
It’s okay we can all relax……Shandwicks has closed for good!👊
silverhibee
11-07-2024, 02:21 PM
Sure I heard the Doocot was going to open up again.
But you wouldn't park your car there.
Watch till the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOzf1aut7tk
And I. More than a couple of people had to exit the Innocent railway prematurely, up a tree and over the wall on to Prestonfield Golf Course, quickly.That channel also hosts this classic. From just before Niddrie Mains was taken down.
I was brought up 100 yards from the Marischal Arms, in which I witnessed many marshal arts.
https://youtu.be/IOUjsYPoa0w?feature=shared
A picture of the Marischal Arms darts team 1974. Looks like Alvin Stardust was in 'em.
http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_g_e/0_groups_and_outings_niddrie_marischal_arms_darts_ team_1974.jpg
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Bridge hibs
11-07-2024, 06:01 PM
That channel also hosts this classic. From just before Niddrie Mains was taken down.
I was brought up 100 yards from the Marischal Arms, in which I witnessed many marshal arts.
https://youtu.be/IOUjsYPoa0w?feature=shared
A picture of the Marischal Arms darts team 1974. Looks like Alvin Stardust was in 'em.
http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_g_e/0_groups_and_outings_niddrie_marischal_arms_darts_ team_1974.jpg
Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkThe late Rab McGovern at the right with his hand on the trophy
Lancs Harp
11-07-2024, 06:36 PM
Found some very decent people in so called roughest pubs, never had any bother anywhere.
I brought a friend up for a Hibs game a couple of years ago for the weekend, he wanted to sample a few Leith Hibs hosteleries on the Friday night. Took him in Tamsons and the Iona, he almost lost his nerve (being English and all that) but had a fab night and he couldmt believe how friendly folk were..... i did try to tell him.
StirlingHibee
11-07-2024, 07:29 PM
During the 80s I worked as DJ in Edinburgh and frequented some pretty wild pubs. The Penny Farthing (Muirhouse) and the Silver Wing (Sighthill) seem to come to mind but perhaps the roughest was the "Parrot Cage" in Wester Hailes. If my memory is accurate this was a function room within the Hotel at the time. Now this may seem odd, but I'm sure I remember doing gigs on Sunday afternoons there (everybody out of their heads at 3pm on a Sunday afternoon was not unusual in those days). There was one occasion where a punter was stabbed which obviously resulted in the police attending. The police instructed me to shut down the disco, however, this was quickly followed by a punter threatening that if I didn't start up the tunes again I would be the next one getting the good news. Crazy, mad days but if I had my time again.....
easty
11-07-2024, 08:57 PM
During the 80s I worked as DJ in Edinburgh and frequented some pretty wild pubs. The Penny Farthing (Muirhouse) and the Silver Wing (Sighthill) seem to come to mind but perhaps the roughest was the "Parrot Cage" in Wester Hailes. If my memory is accurate this was a function room within the Hotel at the time. Now this may seem odd, but I'm sure I remember doing gigs on Sunday afternoons there (everybody out of their heads at 3pm on a Sunday afternoon was not unusual in those days). There was one occasion where a punter was stabbed which obviously resulted in the police attending. The police instructed me to shut down the disco, however, this was quickly followed by a punter threatening that if I didn't start up the tunes again I would be the next one getting the good news. Crazy, mad days but if I had my time again.....
The Silver Wing is in Parkhead.
Just Alf
11-07-2024, 09:05 PM
During the 80s I worked as DJ in Edinburgh and frequented some pretty wild pubs. The Penny Farthing (Muirhouse) and the Silver Wing (Sighthill) seem to come to mind but perhaps the roughest was the "Parrot Cage" in Wester Hailes. If my memory is accurate this was a function room within the Hotel at the time. Now this may seem odd, but I'm sure I remember doing gigs on Sunday afternoons there (everybody out of their heads at 3pm on a Sunday afternoon was not unusual in those days). There was one occasion where a punter was stabbed which obviously resulted in the police attending. The police instructed me to shut down the disco, however, this was quickly followed by a punter threatening that if I didn't start up the tunes again I would be the next one getting the good news. Crazy, mad days but if I had my time again.....
Re the parrots cage, you remember correctly!
The "club" (parrots cage) was in the bowels of the building behind the Hailes pub on the ground floor (Hotel lounge was upstairs, think it was Whispers for a bit, now the Westsider). Used to often be like 1am in town at 3 in the afternoon, saw some sights :rofl:
As an aside, a guy went into the Hailes with a shot gun to do someone in, instead the punters disarmed him, dragged him outside and up the stairs and were about to throw him off the walkway into the centre onto the road below but was saved by the police!
PatHead
26-08-2024, 10:22 AM
Remember when I lived in Greendykes before the flat I shared got demolished and left me requiring to spend a couple of weeks in Bethany House on Cooper Street, the White Hoose and some pub on Duddingston Park South became our local.
They took a lot of pleasure in the White Hoose of alerting us to the fact that this was the location of Coco Bryce's Acid Trip.
I must admit, the graffiti round the back did look familiar.
Also there was a couple of girls in there that thought my mate was good looking. That is the first time he ever got called good looking.
Then in that pub on Duddingston Park South, was not in there 10 minutes before some regular that found out we had just moved into an empty flat came over. He stopped short of handing us a price list of the items we could get delivered in the back of their removal lorry.
Brand new Three Piece Suites, Cinematic screens, and anything you want. Anything? Anything!.
Still, when it came to unpredictability, I would still say that TJ's out did them.
I never ever went back in the White Hoose. Not because it was overly rough, simply because I was not up to the standards of the girls that frequented there.
In fact, every time I listen to this song here, it reminds me of thone pub on D P S, and that guys squeal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYQzIw0zat0
The pub on Duddingston Park South is Oman's. Was the first department pub I ever came across. It had a furniture, electrical, perfume, clothes departments.
LustForLeith
26-08-2024, 02:29 PM
Tokyo Joe's was kind of rough, for the short time it was open back in the 90's.
Bronco was the head doorman.
On the few occasions I was in there, the place got raided by Police. A brawl between Gladstones and TJ's kicked off. The Hibs Casuals came down tooled up looking for a certain character. A Gogo dancer got assaulted. A lad managed to make his way past Bronco clutching a metal bar intent on smashing someone over a Heroin dispute, but got taken from behind and punched in the back of the head about 50 times. And in the night club upstairs someone could not be bothered to wait their turn in the cubical queue and decided to take a dump right in the middle of the toilet. Not to mention the fact that the beer cellar doubled as a Thai imported/smuggled/bootlegged cheap, probably fake, Calvin Klein warehouse.
I actually was not in there much either. But certainly the roughest pub I have ever been in.
Pretty sure during one of the raids a TV crew was also there, and it got shown on one of those Police documentaries. The pub next door certainly got aired. Can't remember the name of it though.
Remember TJ well
I’m sure they got caught serving underagers one time. All the more obvious as the folk drinking were wearing Leith Academy school uniforms at the time
I saw that a few days ago, he never even went into Junction Street's roughest pubs!
Passed The Tam twice, never reached The Vine and could've paid The Spey a visit instead of The Central.
I watched his Blackpool one and that was crap too, probably what happens when you visit pubs on a Sunday evening though.
His one on Glasgow was mostly rubbish, too. Dow’s is just an old boozer. Not rough at all.
Central Bar’s OK. Not rough at all.
BILLYHIBS
30-08-2024, 03:34 PM
I served my drinking apprenticeship in the Goodies in Oxgangs from about 16. It was at the tamer end of the rough pubs but wasn't uncommon for it to kick off between the squaddies from the barracks at Redford and Dreghorn and the locals.
I have the odd post work pint in the Artful Dodger now and that has a bit of a rep, or did anyway. Always seems ok to me, maybe a bit too Hearts for my tastes.
I always find most pubs are fine if you keep yourself to yourself and don't go looking for bother or try to act the big man.
I've always found the pubs on Junction Street ok. Not salubrious by any stretch but I've been in far worse.
The Dodger did have a sort of jamboid vibe to it but pretty sure it was run by two Hibs daft brothers ( McKinlay’s )
I remember they had a porcelain monkey nut behind the bar that bore the legend ‘ Hibs Nut ‘
Was feeling a bit rough one day and asked for a lager shandy only to be told ‘ This is a pub no a sweetie shoap’
Eh ! OK make that lager
Just Alf
30-08-2024, 04:20 PM
The Dodger did have a sort of jamboid vibe to it but pretty sure it was run by two Hibs daft brothers ( McKinlay’s )
I remember they had a porcelain monkey nut behind the bar that bore the legend ‘ Hibs Nut ‘
Was feeling a bit rough one day and asked for a lager shandy only to be told ‘ This is a pub no a sweetie shoap’
Eh ! OK make that lagerHearts stuff on the walls at one side of bar and Hibs stuff on the other, some good banter over a beer during games on TV :greengrin
Trinity Hibee
30-08-2024, 04:48 PM
The Dodger did have a sort of jamboid vibe to it but pretty sure it was run by two Hibs daft brothers ( McKinlay’s )
I remember they had a porcelain monkey nut behind the bar that bore the legend ‘ Hibs Nut ‘
Was feeling a bit rough one day and asked for a lager shandy only to be told ‘ This is a pub no a sweetie shoap’
Eh ! OK make that lager
😂
WoreTheGreen
02-09-2024, 03:21 PM
Yeah Davy is a hibby
WoreTheGreen
02-09-2024, 03:23 PM
The Mcinlays originally had the Arthur’s View
Hotel on Minto street
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