Young players

[Keepthefaith]

One thing that never gets enough detail at this time of year for me is who we think will break through from our young players?

I'm not sure how many have gone on loan, but from last season we should see megwa and landers get more games. But who else?

[Unseen work]

I think this has got to be the year for Megwa to stay and try nail his spot in the team.

I’d be willing to move Miller on and have Megwa and Cadden competing for the spot.

Aiken only away on loan until January so chance for him.

Molotnikov , Whittaker and the McIntyre bothers? Probably loans for them I’d imagine

Johnson hopefully come through next season.

Think Landers, Mccalister etc will still be too young.

Cant see O’Connor getting much chance with how little he played at Airdrie.

[andrew70]

I think this has got to be the year for Megwa to stay and try nail his spot in the team.

I’d be willing to move Miller on and have Megwa and Cadden competing for the spot.

Aiken only away on loan until January so chance for him.

Molotnikov and the McIntyre bothers? Probably loans for them I’d imagine

Johnson hopefully come through next season.

Think Landers, Mccalister etc will still be too young.

Cant see O’Connor getting much chance with how little he played at Airdrie.

Jacob Mac will be involved imo. There's no need to send him out on loan.

[Unseen work]

Jacob Mac will be involved imo. There's no need to send him out on loan.

You think he’s got that good a chance and ready?

Have heard really good things about him and I was impressed with how sharp he looked in the game he played

[Unseen work]

Just checked the website, is there any reason Oscar Macintyre isn’t on it?

Know he was training with the first team the other day.

Imagine just a mistake when updating who was back from loans

[andrew70]

You think he’s got that good a chance and ready?

Have heard really good things about him and I was impressed with how sharp he looked in the game he played

Yes, he’s a player that can play anywhere but I’d get him in to the midfield.

Wonderful talent and surprising strength for someone so young.

Stands out a mile.

[Keepthefaith]

I think this has got to be the year for Megwa to stay and try nail his spot in the team.

I’d be willing to move Miller on and have Megwa and Cadden competing for the spot.

Aiken only away on loan until January so chance for him.

Molotnikov , Whittaker and the McIntyre bothers? Probably loans for them I’d imagine

Johnson hopefully come through next season.

Think Landers, Mccalister etc will still be too young.

Cant see O’Connor getting much chance with how little he played at Airdrie.

Thanks for this. Young Jacob MacIntyre looked ready IMO, and if landers is good enough, he's old enough!

For me, any not going on loan need to be given a chance to shine, we may not need as many signings as we think if the young lads are showing up well. This for me has got to be one of the changes we see this season.

Interesting to see if O'Connor gets a chance. Like you, I was surprised not to see him play much though think he scored a few good goals and played well when he came on?

[Unseen work]

Yes, he’s a player that can play anywhere but I’d get him in to the midfield.

Wonderful talent and surprising strength for someone so young.

Stands out a mile.

Would love to see him get a chance. Just think it’s a big ask with the amount of centre mids in there always never mind rumours of potentially bringing in another.

Newell
Levitt
Amos
NMW
JDH
Campbell

As much as some don’t think a couple of them they all are decent players with good qualities.

[andrew70]

Would love to see him get a chance. Just think it’s a big ask with the amount of centre mids in there always never mind rumours of potentially bringing in another.

Newell
Levitt
Amos
NMW
JDH
Campbell

As much as some don’t think a couple of them they all are decent players with good qualities.

He was going to play against Motherwell I think (post split) but got a bad injury.

Hopefully okay to do pre season and get involved.

I speak with his dad every so often. I hope Oscar and Jacob both make it but Jacob has the best chance.

[Smartie]

He was going to play against Motherwell I think (post split) but got a bad injury.

Hopefully okay to do pre season and get involved.

I speak with his dad every so often. I hope Oscar and Jacob both make it but Jacob has the best chance.

Will Jacob's injury not keep him out for a good bit yet?

Nightmare time for him to get that injury because - as you say - he looked poised to get a wee chance.

Re Oscar - whilst the midfield looks quite congested for bodies, it could be argued that there's an understudy left back spot very much up for grabs, which leaves you an injury or suspension away from being a first team starter. Definitely looks a shorter route to the first team there than in centre of midfield or at right back, which is unfortunate as that seems to be where our most promising youngsters play.

[andrew70]

Will Jacob's injury not keep him out for a good bit yet?

Nightmare time for him to get that injury because - as you say - he looked poised to get a wee chance.

Re Oscar - whilst the midfield looks quite congested for bodies, it could be argued that there's an understudy left back spot very much up for grabs, which leaves you an injury or suspension away from being a first team starter. Definitely looks a shorter route to the first team there than in centre of midfield or at right back, which is unfortunate as that seems to be where our most promising youngsters play.

I am not sure. I will ask.

[Brooster]

I am not sure. I will ask.

Oscar is a good left back, gets up and down the line, defends well, pacy and can get a cross in. I’d be inclined to agree with you and have him as cover for Obita.

Jacob is doing light training. Great prospect.

[04Sauzee]

Yes, he’s a player that can play anywhere but I’d get him in to the midfield.

Wonderful talent and surprising strength for someone so young.

Stands out a mile.

How do you think he compares to say a Lennon Millar ?

[Since452]

They should only break through if they are good enough and can impact the team. I've got no interest in us putting young players in for the sake of it or to hit a KPI. If they aren't good enough we should be moving them on. Sounds brutal but football is brutal.

[Paul1642]

I am not sure. I will ask.

Oscar is a good left back, gets up and down the line, defends well, pacy and can get a cross in. I’d be inclined to agree with you and have him as cover for Obita.

This is good to hear. We need a replacement for Stevenson and it always annoys me a bit bringing in players from outside the club who aren’t going to be part of the starting 11, which a new LB wouldn’t.

Sounds like we have a ready made replacement. How old is Oscar?

Josh Doig was pretty young a went from a young laddie getting a bit of a punt to a nailed on starter in no time at all.

[Brightside]

How do you think he compares to say a Lennon Millar ?

Lennon Miller is the best young player in Scotland. He would walk into our first team.

[Funkydunc]

Jacob is doing light training. Great prospect.

Yep he broke his ankle unfortunately

[04Sauzee]

Lennon Miller is the best young player in Scotland. He would walk into our first team.

I'm asking how he compares that's all, style etc.
In saying that, watched Lennon miller closely the last time they played us at Easter Road and didn't do much but that was just one game.

[Brightside]

I'm asking how he compares that's all, style etc.
In saying that, watched Lennon miller closely the last time they played us at Easter Road and didn't do much but that was just one game.

There was a bunch of us raving about him after that game. I honestly think he different gravy. He's got everything for me. Not seen enough from Jacob to comment. I'll leave that to Brooster etc.

[superfurryhibby]

I think this has got to be the year for Megwa to stay and try nail his spot in the team.

I’d be willing to move Miller on and have Megwa and Cadden competing for the spot.

Aiken only away on loan until January so chance for him.

Molotnikov , Whittaker and the McIntyre bothers? Probably loans for them I’d imagine

Johnson hopefully come through next season.

Think Landers, Mccalister etc will still be too young.

Cant see O’Connor getting much chance with how little he played at Airdrie.

From what we saw of Megwa, Miller is miles ahead of him at the moment.

[JimBHibees]

There was a bunch of us raving about him after that game. I honestly think he different gravy. He's got everything for me. Not seen enough from Jacob to comment. I'll leave that to Brooster etc.

Agree thought some of his touches were superb in that game wouldn't rule out Celtic or Rangers trying to get him.

[JimBHibees]

Will Jacob's injury not keep him out for a good bit yet?

Nightmare time for him to get that injury because - as you say - he looked poised to get a wee chance.

Re Oscar - whilst the midfield looks quite congested for bodies, it could be argued that there's an understudy left back spot very much up for grabs, which leaves you an injury or suspension away from being a first team starter. Definitely looks a shorter route to the first team there than in centre of midfield or at right back, which is unfortunate as that seems to be where our most promising youngsters play.

Didn't hear Jacob had a bad injury. Hope back fit soon. Thought he looked good in the admittedly very short time v Livi. Need to start bringing through more youth talent

[04Sauzee]

Agree thought some of his touches were superb in that game wouldn't rule out Celtic or Rangers trying to get him.

I'd imagine they will. Bournemouth were credited with an interest

[Brooster]

Didn't hear Jacob had a bad injury. Hope back fit soon. Thought he looked good in the admittedly very short time v Livi. Need to start bringing through more youth talent

Jacob was due to play at Ross County but Emiliano broke Jacob's ankle in training. It was a complete accident.

[andrew70]

How do you think he compares to say a Lennon Millar ?

Lennon Miller is going to go far but Jacob has all the attributes. Perhaps unfair to compare just now but he’s very highly thought of.

I’d say this will be a big breakthrough season for him.

[andrew70]

This is good to hear. We need a replacement for Stevenson and it always annoys me a bit bringing in players from outside the club who aren’t going to be part of the starting 11, which a new LB wouldn’t.

Sounds like we have a ready made replacement. How old is Oscar?

Josh Doig was pretty young a went from a young laddie getting a bit of a punt to a nailed on starter in no time at all.

Oscar is 19.

[04Sauzee]

Lennon Miller is going to go far but Jacob has all the attributes. Perhaps unfair to compare just now but he’s very highly thought of.

I’d say this will be a big breakthrough season for him.

Cheers sounds promising 👍

[JimBHibees]

Jacob was due to play at Ross County but Emiliano broke Jacob's ankle in training. It was a complete accident.

Nightmare

[Tambo]

Will be interesting to see what SDG does with the likes of Rudi and Jacob, loans would be sensible but you could also use them when needed, the fact no development games will not help.

[Edina Street]

One thing that never gets enough detail at this time of year for me is who we think will break through from our young players?

I'm not sure how many have gone on loan, but from last season we should see megwa and landers get more games. But who else?

Yes, we need more emphasis on grassroots than spreading the net far and wide.

The famous Five and the Super Seven were built on grassroots, as was the Busby babes and Fergies....fantastics?

Though family and business issues has taken prevalence over monitoring what exciting youngsters are coming through the Hibernian Youth System (means I don't have a clue), it is always exciting when we see promising youngsters breakthrough the ranks. Being a Hibernian supporter from Leith, like Kano, Hughes or Wright, makes it extra special.

I hope my ideology is not mistaken for racism or nationalism.

To prove that I am not a racist, it is my belief that Latapy was better than Sauzee!

[brianmc]

Yes, we need more emphasis on grassroots than spreading the net far and wide.

The famous Five and the Super Seven were built on grassroots, as was the Busby babes and Fergies....fantastics?

Though family and business issues has taken prevalence over monitoring what exciting youngsters are coming through the Hibernian Youth System (means I don't have a clue), it is always exciting when we see promising youngsters breakthrough the ranks. Being a Hibernian supporter from Leith, like Kano, Hughes or Wright, makes it extra special.

I hope my ideology is not mistaken for racism or nationalism.

To prove that I am not a racist, it is my belief that Latapy was better than Sauzee!

The super seven?

[DIXIHIBS]

The super seven?

Wondered about that one too??

[BILLYHIBS]

Whittaker will be a year older

Was doing ok for a wee while until opposition teams doubled up on him putting him under pressure trying to force errors

Reminded me of a young John Brownlie

Miller looked an immediate upgrade returning to the side before injury hit but far from convinced

[Edina Street]

The super seven?

There is no debate to be had about whether Hibernian had a team collectively known as the Super Seven.

The debate is, which of the 11 players were the 7?

I think it was Whittaker, Murphy, Murray, Thomson, Brown, Riordan, O'connor.

Whoever it was, those were great times with grassroots players that culminated in the Sunshine on Leith rendition, being sang for the first time? at Hampden in 2007.

[BILLYHIBS]

There is no debate to be had about whether Hibernian had a team collectively known as the Super Seven.

The debate is, which of the 11 players were the 7?

I think it was Whittaker, Murphy, Murray, Thomson, Brown, Riordan, O'connor.

Whoever it was, those were great times with grassroots players that culminated in the Sunshine on Leith rendition, being sang for the first time? at Hampden in 2007.
What no Steven Fletcher?

Will always be the Goalden Generation to me

[Edina Street]

What no Steven Fletcher?

Will always be the Goalden Generation to me

Well, the Golden Generation stemmed from what was originally known as the Super Seven.

Maybe Steven Fletcher instead of Murphy, given Murphy was a signing to replace Liam O'sullivan that tragically died.

[Ship of Hope]

What no Steven Fletcher?

Will always be the Goalden Generation to me

beat me to it! Unless I’m mistaken Murphy did not come through our youth system either although a great player.

[Paul1642]

There is no debate to be had about whether Hibernian had a team collectively known as the Super Seven.

The debate is, which of the 11 players were the 7?

I think it was Whittaker, Murphy, Murray, Thomson, Brown, Riordan, O'connor.

Whoever it was, those were great times with grassroots players that culminated in the Sunshine on Leith rendition, being sang for the first time? at Hampden in 2007.

Genuinely never heard of it. Was the golden generation, even at the time of I remember correct.

[Edina Street]

Genuinely never heard of it. Was the golden generation, even at the time of I remember correct.

Oh well, you all know better than me.

Golden generation it was.

[BILLYHIBS]

Well, the Golden Generation stemmed from what was originally known as the Super Seven.

Maybe Steven Fletcher instead of Murphy, given Murphy was a signing to replace Liam O'sullivan that tragically died.

Who is Murray ?

No one expects the dot net Inquisition

[Edina Street]

Who is Murray ?

No one expects the dot net Inquisition

Sorry, if you are a bigger Hibs supporter than me, that's fine.

I am a moderate Hibs supporter, not indocrinated, lead by no-one, and imperfect.

Thank you

[BILLYHIBS]

Sorry, if you are a bigger Hibs supporter than me, that's fine.

I am a moderate Hibs supporter, not indocrinated, lead by no-one, and imperfect.

Thank you

Nae bother

[Unseen work]

There is no debate to be had about whether Hibernian had a team collectively known as the Super Seven.

The debate is, which of the 11 players were the 7?

I think it was Whittaker, Murphy, Murray, Thomson, Brown, Riordan, O'connor.

Whoever it was, those were great times with grassroots players that culminated in the Sunshine on Leith rendition, being sang for the first time? at Hampden in 2007.

Was Sam Morrow or Tam McManus not included in it? Sure I recall them being mentioned at the time

[Edina Street]

Was Sam Morrow or Tam McManus not included in it? Sure I recall them being mentioned at the time

Was a long time ago and I am not going to check Wikipedia, so will just write from the top of my prosecco influenced brain. As I remember Morrow was a signing, and McManus left just before the dawn of Parks Super Generation.

[04Sauzee]

I mentioned Lennon Miller earlier on, scored tonight from a free kick against FC Twente

[Edina Street]

I mentioned Lennon Miller earlier on, scored tonight from a free kick against FC Twente

Any relation to Willie?

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Think we’re upto the fantastic fourteen now

[andrew70]

Any relation to Willie?

Lee Millers laddie

[andrew70]

I am not sure. I will ask.

Oscar is a good left back, gets up and down the line, defends well, pacy and can get a cross in. I’d be inclined to agree with you and have him as cover for Obita.



Jacob hoping to be back playing late August.

It’s expected that many of the players, like Oscar, will be going out on loan again.

Hibs looking for a first team left back.

It’s interesting that the loaned players were told to go get games which they’ve done. Theres no pathway just now and that’s something I hope Malky and Gray sort out.

I understand the need to get this right and press on but we’ve got to take a calculated chance at times with young players like Jacob, Rudi etc. If we don’t get them in then we stifle them, send them out on loan or waste a year.

A loan means they are out of the club and forgotten about although I believe Montgomery called each loan player to go over their performances regularly.

The mentality has changed and it seems that Hibs are going to sign a few to bolster the first team rather than take these chances.

[HIBS NUTS]

Mcallister was excellent today, in the second half, he’s still very young.
But he is improving.

[Keepthefaith]

Mcallister was excellent today, in the second half, he’s still very young.
But he is improving.

Scored an excellent goal. News today that Leeds are selling an 18 year old for 40 million. Astounded how a young championship player can be valued at that but does make me question at what point we trust our young players to show true potential?

[brydekirk]

Scored an excellent goal. News today that Leeds are selling an 18 year old for 40 million. Astounded how a young championship player can be valued at that but does make me question at what point we trust our young players to show true potential
?

Trusting the young players to show their potential is one thing, but Trusting good few of our fan base not to destroy them when they make a mistake.
I think Josh Campbell is still scarred from the abuse he got.
Whittaker was treated harshly aswell. IMO

[CapitalGreen]

Trusting the young players to show their potential is one thing, but Trusting good few of our fan base not to destroy them when they make a mistake.
I think Josh Campbell is still scarred from the abuse he got.
Whittaker was treated harshly aswell. IMO

Nobody has been destroyed.

[JimBHibees]

Scored an excellent goal. News today that Leeds are selling an 18 year old for 40 million. Astounded how a young championship player can be valued at that but does make me question at what point we trust our young players to show true potential?

He can be valued at that because Archie Gray was excellent all season in the English championship. Proven himself to be technically and physically able to play at that level. That’s what our good kids need to do.

[Musselbound]

Oscar is a good left back, gets up and down the line, defends well, pacy and can get a cross in. I’d be inclined to agree with you and have him as cover for Obita.



Jacob hoping to be back playing late August.

It’s expected that many of the players, like Oscar, will be going out on loan again.

Hibs looking for a first team left back.

It’s interesting that the loaned players were told to go get games which they’ve done. Theres no pathway just now and that’s something I hope Malky and Gray sort out.

I understand the need to get this right and press on but we’ve got to take a calculated chance at times with young players like Jacob, Rudi etc. If we don’t get them in then we stifle them, send them out on loan or waste a year.

A loan means they are out of the club and forgotten about although I believe Montgomery called each loan player to go over their performances regularly.

The mentality has changed and it seems that Hibs are going to sign a few to bolster the first team rather than take these chances.

I'd agree there seems to be little pathway for young Hibs players in our team. I believe it's now part of Marshall's new job to monitor the development of our players out on loan.

[Hibernian Verse]

I'd agree there seems to be little pathway for young Hibs players in our team. I believe it's now part of Marshall's new job to monitor the development of our players out on loan.

There is a pathway, but last season wasn't the time to blood youngsters as playing Whittaker at right back showed.

If things are going well it's easy to throw youngsters in, but when you need results the manager will always play the experienced pros.

[The Modfather]

There is a pathway, but last season wasn't the time to blood youngsters as playing Whittaker at right back showed.

If things are going well it's easy to throw youngsters in, but when you need results the manager will always play the experienced pros.

There’s never a good time to blood young players. It wasn’t the time in the championship as we needed to get promoted. It wasn’t the time we were going for the European places, it wasn’t the time when top 6 was in the balance and as we’ve seen the bottom 6 dead rubbers aren’t the time when managers are trying to survive short term. The club either has to have it as an important ethos of the club and it’s a key metric for managers, or cut spending to the minimum required rather than spend a lot of money on something we aren’t serious about.

[theonlywayisup]

Mcallister was excellent today, in the second half, he’s still very young.
But he is improving.

Good to read! I was wondering how things would develop with his dad away from Hibs. I'm hoping that he sees his future at Hibs and can make his way into the first team squad in the next year or so. In saying that, I've no idea if he's ready for the first team yet.

It would be good to hear the thoughts from anyone with a good understanding of his ability, having watched him play last season.

[theonlywayisup]

Any games coming up for the development squad? Nothing on the Hibs website that I could see.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/matches/academy

[CapitalGreen]

Any games coming up for the development squad? Nothing on the Hibs website that I could see.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/matches/academy

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?362976-Hibs-Under-18s-Development-Squad-23-24&p=7695207#post7695207

Maurice has provided some details in the above thread.

[theonlywayisup]

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?362976-Hibs-Under-18s-Development-Squad-23-24&p=7695207#post7695207

Maurice has provided some details in the above thread.

Cheers! Thanks for letting me know - I've copied the match details below. Would have been good to see this information on the Hibs website though.

Carlisle Utd on Wed 3rd HTC, not sure if it is open to the public
Dunbar Utd on the 9th
Preston Ath away on the 13th 14:00 ko
Middlesbrough on the 16th at HTC 14:00
20th away to Millwall at St Andrews Uni 13:00