Monty to Spurs

[Up-the-slope]

As it says and Sergio

"Both Nick and Sergio have a wealth of coaching experience over a number of years," said Postecoglou.
"They have already demonstrated a strong desire to both develop young talent and implement a football style that I believe will further strengthen the environment we have established. I'm looking forward to working with them."

[Glory Lurker]

I wish them both well.

[HendoDelivered]

All the best Monty and Serge

[He's here!]

I didn't think he had a hope of another job in the UK after such a brief and unsuccessful spell at Hibs but I'll be interested to see how he progresses.

[Lago]

I wish them both well.
I 2nd that

[eastmainsmsh]

Brilliant good for them

[Donegal Hibby]

Agree , wish both of them all the best as well

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Good luck to both of them.

[Northernhibee]

I do rate them. Even still. It was quite clear that we didn’t have the quality in the team to press or pass the ball around and to hire a manager whose style of play requires that was madness.

Wish them all the best and am certain they’ll be a success at a much better run club.

[dp00]

Our sacked managers do not bad at getting a job down south after being sacked eh


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[CentreLine]

Hope they do well and off our wage bill. Win win.

[007]

Postecoglou's successor when he gets the England job. 🤔

[Wheat Hound]

Monty back to Tynecastle next month to keep his unbeaten record there going....

[Forza Fred]

Monty always was a good coach, but came to Hibs at a bad time. He was more focussed on the future than the immediate NOW, and I guess he learned to his cost that in Scotland the ‘long term’ is about six weeks!

Hopefully turns out well for Hibs, Monte and Serge, and despite everything still says nice things about us.

[Jim44]

They’ve certainly landed on their feet after being shown the door at ER. Good luck to them.

[Winston Ingram]

Monty back to Tynecastle next month to keep his unbeaten record there going....

I’m sure the Hearts fans will give him great welcome

[Since452]

Good luck Tottenham

[easty]

Our sacked managers do not bad at getting a job down south after being sacked eh


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Heckingbottom did well. That’s it about it, no?

Maloney to League 1 Wigan. Johnson to League 1 Fleetwood. Calderwood to a non manager role. Monty to a non manager role.

[DarlingtonHibee]

Wish them both well.

[Donegal Hibby]

Monty always was a good coach, but came to Hibs at a bad time. He was more focussed on the future than the immediate NOW, and I guess he learned to his cost that in Scotland the ‘long term’ is about six weeks!

Hopefully turns out well for Hibs, Monte and Serge, and despite everything still says nice things about us.

When Ange Postecoglou is taking them it shows how highly regarded they are . As you they came to Hibs at a bad time.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Good luck to them. At least leaving Australia has worked out in the end, always felt sorry for Monty's family going half way around the world only to see him lose his job so quickly leaving them up in the air.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Absolutely abysmal manager and it’s no surprise he’s not went back into management.

[Since452]

The guy was an unmitigated disaster and his arrogance and tactical naivety cost the club hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of pounds. Don't wish him good luck whatsoever. Left us a shambles. Up there with Butcher.

[Chipper1875]

When Ange Postecoglou is taking them it shows how highly regarded they are . As you they came to Hibs at a bad time.

They are third tier in his coaching set up. They will be carrying the bibs and balls. Great move for them both .

[Jones28]

The guy was an unmitigated disaster and his arrogance and tactical naivety cost the club hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of pounds. Don't wish him good luck whatsoever. Left us a shambles. Up there with Butcher.

No one's up there with Butcher. There's *****, there's worse, then there's Butcher.

[Donegal Hibby]

They are third tier in his coaching set up. They will be carrying the bibs and balls. Great move for them both .

I'd doubt that very much . Being involved in a set-up at a massive like spurs is a great move for both and a great experience where they will no doubt learn alot .

Good luck to them both .

[Donegal Hibby]

Absolutely abysmal manager and it’s no surprise he’s not went back into management.

He actually had the choice to return to management but turned it down . Don't get the animosity towards the guy at all.

[Keith_M]

I wish them both well.


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[Chipper1875]

I'd doubt that very much . Being involved in a set-up at a massive like spurs is a great move for both and a great experience where they will no doubt learn alot .

Good luck to them both .

Did you go to the hibs games at watch Monty ball ?

It’s confirmed on spurs website. He’s third tier coach

[easty]

Couldnae care less if he does well or not in the future. Just glad he's not the Hibs boss anymore.

[Iain G]

The guy was an unmitigated disaster and his arrogance and tactical naivety cost the club hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of pounds. Don't wish him good luck whatsoever. Left us a shambles. Up there with Butcher.

Whatevers!

[K-Zazu]

He actually had the choice to return to management but turned it down . Don't get the animosity towards the guy at all.

You don’t get the animosity towards him? Did you watch Hibs last season?

[Is It On....]

As it says and Sergio

"Both Nick and Sergio have a wealth of coaching experience over a number of years," said Postecoglou.
"They have already demonstrated a strong desire to both develop young talent and implement a football style that I believe will further strengthen the environment we have established. I'm looking forward to working with them."



Should be positive for Hibs as we will no longer have to pay them until their contracts expire.

[Chipper1875]

Should be positive for Hibs as we will no longer have to pay them until their contracts expire.

We weren’t having to do that .

[K-Zazu]

Should be positive for Hibs as we will no longer have to pay them until their contracts expire.

Sacked its 3 months wages I think 🤔 could be wrong

[Donegal Hibby]

You don’t get the animosity towards him? Did you watch Hibs last season?

Yeah I did as I did under previous the 3 managers that lost there jobs too , none of them intentionally came in to fail or sabotage our club .

Probably all of them worked extremely hard . In Monty's case he moved his family halfway round the world to come to Hibs and I haven't heard him say a bad word about the club since he's left either..

So I'm glad he's got another job and wish him and Sergio well .

The animosity towards him , no I don't get it at all ! .

[blackpoolhibs]

Yeah I did as I did under previous the 3 managers that lost there jobs too , none of them intentionally came in to fail or sabotage our club .

Probably all of them worked extremely hard . In Monty's case he moved his family halfway round the world to come to Hibs and I haven't heard him say a bad word about the club since he's left either..

So I'm glad he's got another job and wish him and Sergio well .

The animosity towards him , no I don't get it at all ! .

If he'd moved a couple of players around in that midfield early season, he might still be in a job.

[Lago]

Absolutely abysmal manager and it’s no surprise he’s not went back into management.
Yawn 🥱

[Greenio]

Good luck to them. At least leaving Australia has worked out in the end, always felt sorry for Monty's family going half way around the world only to see him lose his job so quickly leaving them up in the air.

Same. Massive uproot for his family.

Good role for them. Wish em the best

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Couldnae care less if he does well or not in the future. Just glad he's not the Hibs boss anymore.

I concur.

[Winston Ingram]

They are third tier in his coaching set up. They will be carrying the bibs and balls. Great move for them both .

Not only that, he’s sharing that 3rd tier with 3 other coaches.

Head Coach: Postecoglu
Senior Asst Coach: Matt Wells
Asst Coaches: Ryan Mason, Mile Jedinak, Sergio, Montgomery.

Be interesting to see them all keep a straight face when he starts talking about his possession based fluid 442.

[Wilson]

If he'd moved a couple of players around in that midfield early season, he might still be in a job.

If he'd moved some of the players half way round the world we might have got top six 😆

[DarlingtonHibee]

Absolutely abysmal manager and it’s no surprise he’s not went back into management.

I'm sure probably quadrupling his earnings will help.

[Paul1642]

Sacked its 3 months wages I think 🤔 could be wrong

Is it really that little? There’s a lot of chat on here along the lines of reduced transfer budget due to constantly paying off managers but 3 months wages for a Hibs manager and a couple of his staff must be a very maximum of £250k?

Not a great amount of money to be chucking away once a year but it’s not remotely bank breaking.

I would also be surprised if it was actually that high an amount.

[Victor]

They are third tier in his coaching set up. They will be carrying the bibs and balls. Great move for them both .

Does it give you a buzz to denigrate the guys? I take it you have some high flying job that is the envy of your peers?

[tamig]

Yeah I did as I did under previous the 3 managers that lost there jobs too , none of them intentionally came in to fail or sabotage our club .

Probably all of them worked extremely hard . In Monty's case he moved his family halfway round the world to come to Hibs and I haven't heard him say a bad word about the club since he's left either..

So I'm glad he's got another job and wish him and Sergio well .

The animosity towards him , no I don't get it at all ! .

Agreed. Wish the guy all the very best and glad he seems to have landed on his feet. Some folk on here were never fans before he even joined so I expect nothing less from them. No class or decency.

[blackpoolhibs]

If he'd moved some of the players half way round the world we might have got top six 😆
:greengrin

[DarlingtonHibee]

They are third tier in his coaching set up. They will be carrying the bibs and balls. Great move for them both .

So,you don't think Dave Gray hasn't carried the bibs and balls..

Monty is qualified to work at one of the top clubs in England

[Exuberance1875]

Good luck to him, seemed a good guy, Hibs were not the right fit for him. Tremendous move for him

[Chipper1875]

Does it give you a buzz to denigrate the guys? I take it you have some high flying job that is the envy of your peers?

I empty wheelie bins . I think it’s a good job.

[Chipper1875]

Not only that, he’s sharing that 3rd tier with 3 other coaches.

Head Coach: Postecoglu
Senior Asst Coach: Matt Wells
Asst Coaches: Ryan Mason, Mile Jedinak, Sergio, Montgomery.

Be interesting to see them all keep a straight face when he starts talking about his possession based fluid 442.

Incredible the waste of money in the English prem . More coaches than Charlie l irons

[Winston Ingram]

Incredible the waste of money in the English prem . More coaches than Charlie l irons

**** knows why they need 4.

[MWHIBBIES]

**** knows why they need 4.

Most teams have that or more at that level. You can't think 1 coach is enough for 25 players? They don't just train as 1 big group all the time.

[Winston Ingram]

Most teams have that or more at that level. You can't think 1 coach is enough for 25 players? They don't just train as 1 big group all the time.

Most teams do not. It’s usually 3.

Manager, Asst Manager and First Team Coach is the usual structure. You can add goalkeeping coaches, fitness coaches to that as well.

It’s the most coaches in the big 6 down there.

[MWHIBBIES]

**** knows why they need 4.


Most teams do not. It’s usually 3.

Manager, Asst Manager and First Team Coach is the usual structure. You can add goalkeeping coaches, fitness coaches to that as well.

It’s the most coaches in the big 6 down there.

That's not true, though. Here's Arsenals coaching staff.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-arsenal/mitarbeiter/verein/11

[Paulie Walnuts]

He actually had the choice to return to management but turned it down . Don't get the animosity towards the guy at all.

Not sure there’s any animosity. As my post said, he was absolutely guff. Nobody is suggesting he was guff deliberately, but he was one of the worst managers I’ve seen at Hibs.

[jakeshibs]

Good luck to Monty; who knows what he might have achieved at Hibs if given the time? he was instrumental in getting Marcondes and Maolida, and they were our best players. Even Sir Alex Ferguson did not turn United around in 7 months; took him a lot longer than Monty was given.

Glad monty has gone onto bigger things and higher league, hopefully, this will also manage our supporters' expectations about what can be achieved immediately with the current player availability

[Brightside]

Not sure there’s any animosity. As my post said, he was absolutely guff. Nobody is suggesting he was guff deliberately, but he was one of the worst managers I’ve seen at Hibs.

He wasn’t guff. People not understanding the change he was trying to make was the issue. Change that he was actually hired to do. It was yet another poor managerial decision. Don’t hire projects if you don’t want to see the project through.

[JimBHibees]

Not only that, he’s sharing that 3rd tier with 3 other coaches.

Head Coach: Postecoglu
Senior Asst Coach: Matt Wells
Asst Coaches: Ryan Mason, Mile Jedinak, Sergio, Montgomery.

Be interesting to see them all keep a straight face when he starts talking about his possession based fluid 442.

Obviously his ability has been recognised by professionals much more knowledgeable than the know all’s on here.

[JimBHibees]

He wasn’t guff. People not understanding the change he was trying to make was the issue. Change that he was actually hired to do. It was yet another poor managerial decision. Don’t hire projects if you don’t want to see the project through.

Agree still not forgiven the players for that

[Since452]

He wasn’t guff. People not understanding the change he was trying to make was the issue. Change that he was actually hired to do. It was yet another poor managerial decision. Don’t hire projects if you don’t want to see the project through.

That's some take. One look at his record tells you he was guff. And that's without mentioning the chronic football and shocking results.

[Paul1642]

That's not true, though. Here's Arsenals coaching staff.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-arsenal/mitarbeiter/verein/11

That’s wild

[Brightside]

That's some take. One look at his record tells you he was guff. And that's without mentioning the chronic football and shocking results.

Football wasn’t chronic but I don’t expect you to understand. Your take on everything Hibs is generally horrible.

[Chipper1875]

Football wasn’t chronic but I don’t expect you to understand. Your take on everything Hibs is generally horrible.

Football was brutal . Mind numbing boring

[Chipper1875]

He wasn’t guff. People not understanding the change he was trying to make was the issue. Change that he was actually hired to do. It was yet another poor managerial decision. Don’t hire projects if you don’t want to see the project through.

Ah the people didn’t understand. We are very fortunate to have Brightside to help us understand

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Football wasn’t chronic but I don’t expect you to understand. Your take on everything Hibs is generally horrible.

At a time when the standard of the league outside the OF must've been at just about an all time low we finished 6th out of the 10 teams, chronic pretty much covers it.

[Northernhibee]

Football wasn’t chronic but I don’t expect you to understand. Your take on everything Hibs is generally horrible.

When it worked it was very enjoyable. Dundee away was a great game to watch.

I would like to know how many players signed in the January window were his and how many were of our recruitment committee as only some of them seemed to actually make sense, to be kind.

[BILLYHIBS]

What is there to understand ?

Chronic dire football

Dated 4-4-2 set up or whatever it was supposed to be ?

Refusal to budge from this system of playing despite results to the contrary

Reliance on Jair and Triantis as a centre half ? ?

Strange line ups and even weirder substitutions that made no sense

No plan B

Did not win one game of any significance apart the Sheep at home 2-0

Was like watching the Pep documentary with no happy ending

Had us the laughing stock of the league but wait a minute we were only 20 seconds from jubilation

Did a Butcher on Paul Hanlon decided he didn’t need him then ended up having to rely on him

Don’t wish him any ill but the further away from my club the better

Pretty sure Brightside was the last man standing that wanted Monty to stay on here

Another season of dross football would decimate our fan base

So fingers crossed for the new season

Let’s do this Hibs

No more passive timid boring performances let’s at least lay a glove on them all of them

[Chipper1875]

When it worked it was very enjoyable. Dundee away was a great game to watch.

I would like to know how many players signed in the January window were his and how many were of our recruitment committee as only some of them seemed to actually make sense, to be kind.

Yes , we scored a lovely goal. Dundee cut thro us and missed sitters

[Brightside]

What is there to understand ?

Chronic dire football

Dated 4-4-2 set up or whatever it was supposed to be ?

Refusal to budge from this system of playing despite results to the contrary

Reliance on Jair and Triantis as a centre half ? ?

Strange line ups and even weirder substitutions that made no sense

No plan B

Did not win one game of any significance apart the Sheep at home 2-0

Was like watching the Pep documentary with no happy ending

Had us the laughing stock of the league but wait a minute we were only 20 seconds from jubilation

Did a Butcher on Paul Hanlon decided he didn’t need him then ended up having to rely on him

Don’t wish him any ill but the further away from my club the better

Pretty sure Brightside was the last man standing that wanted Monty to stay on here

Another season of dross football would decimate our fan base

So fingers crossed for the new season

Let’s do this Hibs

No more passive timid boring performances let’s at least lay a glove on them all of them


None of that is true tho. 442 isn't dated and we didn't play it the majority of games, we changed formations constantly during games as per all the evidence on Hibs Observer etc. We played blocks of 5 and 5 in the majority of games. Despite having a hugely expensive forward line they struggled to work as a unit.

Hanlon and Stevenson being moved on by Hibs was a club decision NOT a Monty decsison. He was told to reduce the age of the squad. It was one of the main asks around building the future squad. The fact remains that Hibs headhunted a coach to carry out a long term project to rebuild the squad. Then we shat it after one season and one jan window. The same people slating Monty on here are the same ones that will be first to get stuck into SDG too. . ANY coach needs to build up a new squad. Im sure SDG will do fine IF he is given time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Football wasn’t chronic but I don’t expect you to understand. Your take on everything Hibs is generally horrible.

Thank god we’ve got you to help us understand that our ***** manager who lead us to a 8th place finish was actually good and we all, including the players he was managing and the board at the club, just don’t understand, but you of course, completely understand. This is up their with your Kenneh is way too good for Hibs shout.

He was an absolutely horrific manager by every possible measure. Having read many of your previous shouts though, I’m not surprised you ‘don’t understand’ that.

[Chipper1875]

None of that is true tho. 442 isn't dated and we didn't play it the majority of games, we changed formations constantly during games as per all the evidence on Hibs Observer etc. We played blocks of 5 and 5 in the majority of games. Despite having a hugely expensive forward line they struggled to work as a unit.

Hanlon and Stevenson being moved on by Hibs was a club decision NOT a Monty decsison. He was told to reduce the age of the squad. It was one of the main asks around building the future squad. The fact remains that Hibs headhunted a coach to carry out a long term project to rebuild the squad. Then we shat it after one season and one jan window. The same people slating Monty on here are the same ones that will be first to get stuck into SDG too. . ANY coach needs to build up a new squad. Im sure SDG will do fine IF he is given time.

If Monty had got is top six , he would’ve kept his job. He was getting sacked before he did . He failed miserably with what he had at his disposal . He needed be more pragmatic but was hell bent on playing a way that didn’t work for the players , we had .

Anyone that used rocky as. a ball playing centre half , shouldn’t be allowed to coach any team at any level

[ChilliEater]

I'm with Brightside on this. None of us can say for sure if he'd have succeeded, but he was (still is) a promising young coach who was trying to implement an overhaul of a bloated squad and implement a new style of play. I would have kept him. The problems since our 3rd place finish have been around recruitment rather than management. The whole development squad project was a good idea in theory, but poorly implemented and has ended up being detrimental to the first team. Maloney, LJ and Monty all ended up with a more difficult job than they should have.

[overdrive]

Most teams have that or more at that level. You can't think 1 coach is enough for 25 players? They don't just train as 1 big group all the time.

Yep and we've had not far off that under some of the managers.

Caldwell, Zuddas, Doogan, Gray under Maloney.

McAllister, Owen, Gray under Johnson.

Edit: someone linked to the Arsenal coaching staff. If anyone has seen the Arsenal show on Prime, a lot of the guys would spend one-on-one time with players, not necessarily on the training pitch but in the analysis room, so you can easily see why you need a large backroom staff.

[BILLYHIBS]

Response to Brightside

Monty could easily have been sacked before the cut off following the 1-3 loss to The Rangers if not before but was allowed to carry on to save his job but only succeeded in 1W 1 D and 3 L from the split fixtures The alarm bells already ringing from a comprehensive 0-3 home reverse to St Mirren on 3rd February

Difficult to point the fickle finger of blame at our forwards when we scored only two less goals than Hearts but conceded 17 more so the problem was our defence and what was Monty’s remedy ? Nectar Triantis a defensive calamity but in fairness might have potential as a DM

I do not remember two banks of five definitely a back four a five and Maolida up front with the ineffective Vente and the losing interest Marcondes playing in the hole with varying degrees of failure

Who knows maybe if he had won all his games in the split and won us some dosh the experiment might still be ongoing but the whole idea and it’s suitability to the SPFL was wearing a bit thin to this ST holder

With regards LS and PH Lewis’ time was sadly up PH was always a slow starter and as we got in to the business end PH was looking the fresher option as Rocky and Fish were starting to creak and PH was a welcome pair of fresh legs despite his age but has now been moved on

Not bringing on PH versus St Johnstone 1-2 and moving NT back to centre back was a fatal error imo

In fairness to your pov The BK’s following their much anticipated review recommended we keep NM (cannot remember where I read it) probably pointing the finger of blame at the players

[Donegal Hibby]

Ange Postecoglou's a top manager and given Monty a job at spurs .

So he obviously rates the guys coaching abilities.

Good enough recommendation in my book .

[Smartie]

I actually put many of Monty's problems down to the manner and timing of his predecessor's departure and the time he was brought in.

I mean - 3 league games into a season, with the transfer window still open and much needed work on the squad to be done - WTF? New guy comes in from the other side of the world, has to go half a season with what he inherited, learning about that squad (a squad that isn't good enough) as he goes? Is this a situation where ANYONE is going to ever succeed?

The problem with Monty is that in spite of all of that he just didn't give us enough (anything?) to show or suggest he knew what he was doing and should be kept longer. Even after some decent arrivals in January (and a resultant mini-bounce) we reverted to type and some of Monty's performances towards the end were abject.

It's honourable for Brightside to be so onside with him and maybe he's party to stuff most of the rest of us don't know - but if you were going on Hibs' performances on the park and looking for any sort of crumb of comfort there was just nothing there.

Re David Gray - at the very least he's coming in at a better time, a much better time, than Monty did. A full pre-season, a full transfer window, a blanker canvas re players and recruitment - before you take the ability of the coach into consideration, that's giving someone a better chance to succeed.

Whether it's David Gray or any of his inevitable successors - I think we, the fans, need to have a think about the timing of when we really get on their backs and demand managerial change, as it can knock us back a long, long way if the board are jumpy enough to react.

[easty]

Football wasn’t chronic but I don’t expect you to understand. Your take on everything Hibs is generally horrible.

It was brutal.

[easty]

None of that is true tho. 442 isn't dated and we didn't play it the majority of games, we changed formations constantly during games as per all the evidence on Hibs Observer etc. We played blocks of 5 and 5 in the majority of games. Despite having a hugely expensive forward line they struggled to work as a unit.

Hanlon and Stevenson being moved on by Hibs was a club decision NOT a Monty decsison. He was told to reduce the age of the squad. It was one of the main asks around building the future squad. The fact remains that Hibs headhunted a coach to carry out a long term project to rebuild the squad. Then we shat it after one season and one jan window. The same people slating Monty on here are the same ones that will be first to get stuck into SDG too. . ANY coach needs to build up a new squad. Im sure SDG will do fine IF he is given time.

We headhunted a coach to improve Hibs. He made us worse. We didn't **** the bed until too late. He should've been gone much sooner.

[Iain G]

We headhunted a coach to improve Hibs. He made us worse. We didn't **** the bed until too late. He should've been gone much sooner.

Should we maybe just sack Gray now then, will save a lot of stress and teeth grinding 😁🤣

[easty]

Should we maybe just sack Gray now then, will save a lot of stress and teeth grinding 😁🤣

Aye, and we should sack Ian Murray now, before we've even appointed him next.

[Brightside]

If Monty had got is top six , he would’ve kept his job. He was getting sacked before he did . He failed miserably with what he had at his disposal . He needed be more pragmatic but was hell bent on playing a way that didn’t work for the players , we had .

Anyone that tries to use a ball playing centre half , shouldn’t be allowed to coach any team at any level

Is that a typo? You don't want a CB that can play football? Then we will have a thread about why Scotland is cack at football.

[Chipper1875]

Is that a typo? You don't want a CB that can play football? Then we will have a thread about why Scotland is cack at football.

No it’s not a typo . You know lm referring to rocky

[Since452]

It wasn't just the chronic football that was alarming. It was the regression shown by almost every player. The more time he got to work with them the worse we seemed to become. There were no positive signs and he was correctly sacked. 5-0 at home to Aberdeen ffs.

I read somewhere that Ange acts as a sort of mentor to Montgomery and encouraged him to stick to his guns while every manager was figuring out his tactics. That's OK if you are manager of Celtic and have vastly superior players to 10 of the other teams. At Hibs you'll be caught out. There are a lot of savvy managers in our league. Montgomery wasn't one of them and was very quicky found out. Just glad he's gone.

[flash]

No it’s not a typo . You know lm referring to rocky

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[Chipper1875]

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Rocky is brutal
With the ball . Monty used him as a ball playing centre half .

[Lago]

Should we maybe just sack Gray now then, will save a lot of stress and teeth grinding 😁🤣
I know you've got your tongue in your cheek but let's not kid ourselves a poor run from the off and the usual culprits will turn on him.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I know you've got your tongue in your cheek but let's not kid ourselves a poor run from the off and the usual culprits will turn on him.

Yawn.

Football fans will lose faith in failing manager. In other news, water is wet.

The fans want to watch a good team. They’re not going to give up on that so that they can back a failing David Gray at the expense of having a good team.

I’m fairly certain you were of the opinion Montgomery needed sacked. Are you a usual culprit?

[BILLYHIBS]

Rocky is brutal
With the ball . Monty used him as a ball playing centre half .

I like Rocky

He is a quick learner mobile and has improved his left foot but unfortunately he has not managed to eradicate the errors and you just know the next one awaits in the new season

Probably no more improvement and has lapses in concentration

Sell if any interest

[Paulie Walnuts]

I like Rocky

He is a quick learner mobile and has improved his left foot but unfortunately he has not managed to eradicate the errors and you just know the next one awaits in the new season

Probably no more improvement and has lapses in concentration

Sell if any interest

Surely if he was a quick learner he would have managed to eradicate the same errors he keeps on making?

[Lago]

Yawn.

Football fans will lose faith in failing manager. In other news, water is wet.

I’m fairly certain you were of the opinion Montgomery needed sacked. Are you a usual culprit?
Nope, but you are.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Nope, but you are.

So you’re not a usual culprit despite the fact you also wanted numerous failing managers sacked over the last few years. Gotcha.

[Donegal Hibby]

Rocky is brutal
With the ball . Monty used him as a ball playing centre half .

Weaknesses : heading , concentration .

Strengths: physicality , agility and ability on the ball .

CH that likes to drive forward with the ball much like Porto , Ambrose.

Don't no where your coming from on that one :rolleyes:

[BILLYHIBS]

Surely if he was a quick learner he would have managed to eradicate the same errors he keeps on making?

That was what I was hoping for but still making the same errors

Sell

Does not learn

Similar to Porto :greengrin

[Just_Jimmy]

The guy was an unmitigated disaster and his arrogance and tactical naivety cost the club hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of pounds. Don't wish him good luck whatsoever. Left us a shambles. Up there with Butcher.What a slaver.

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[Just_Jimmy]

Not only that, he’s sharing that 3rd tier with 3 other coaches.

Head Coach: Postecoglu
Senior Asst Coach: Matt Wells
Asst Coaches: Ryan Mason, Mile Jedinak, Sergio, Montgomery.

Be interesting to see them all keep a straight face when he starts talking about his possession based fluid 442.Probably find that Spurs have players that can implement it.

Same players at Hibs have managed to get 3 managers sacked.

It's definitely the managers that are the issue.

I say that as no fan of any of the 3 managers.

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[Lago]

So you’re not a usual culprit despite the fact you also wanted numerous failing managers sacked over the last few years. Gotcha.
Me thinks thou doth protest too much :agree:

[Paulie Walnuts]

Probably find that Spurs have players that can implement it.

Same players at Hibs have managed to get 3 managers sacked.

It's definitely the managers that are the issue.

I say that as no fan of any of the 3 managers.

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Shaun Maloneys last Hibs side saw Cadden, Hanlon, Stevenson, Campbell, JDH, and Newell on the pitch. All the others are gone.

It would be a huge stretch to argue that Cadden, Hanlon, Stevenson, Campbell or JDH ‘got Montgomery sacked’ seeing as they barely played under him.

It’s a bit of a myth that the same squad of players have got numerous managers sacked imo. They’ve all had fairly significantly different groups of players and all failed.

[Chipper1875]

Weaknesses : heading , concentration .

Strengths: physicality , agility and ability on the ball .

CH that likes to drive forward with the ball much like Porto , Ambrose.

Don't no where your coming from on that one :rolleyes:

Do you actually attend hibs games at Easter road ?

Rocky is brutal in possession. I’m assuming you were at the two games at Dingwall recently, soon as rocky had it , Simon murray was all over him like a rash . Rocky lashes it out the park.

Other teams let him have it and close the space to play it .

[allezsauzee]

Maybe big Ange is wanting to get his own back on the Spurs fans that were cheering a Man City win? :greengrin

It's a world of difference coaching a style of play on the training ground and having the responsibility for results and demonstrating the pragmatism that this requires at times (At levels above A league at least) . Maybe this will play to his strengths more than being head coach/manager. I bear him no ill will. He just wasn't capable enough to be our head coach, so good luck to him.

[Brightside]

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

It makes no sense at all. I want CBs that can play football. I want to play out from the back. I want to create chances. I want to win games. By having better footballer players there is more chance of that happening.

We weren't close to getting what we needed. But the idea that we shouldn't look to play footballing CBs is just daft.

[Chipper1875]

It makes no sense at all. I want CBs that can play football. I want to play out from the back. I want to create chances. I want to win games. By having better footballer players there is more chance of that happening.

We weren't close to getting what we needed. But the idea that we shouldn't look to play footballing CBs is just daft.

What makes no sense , Monty using rocky as a ball playing centre half . If you’re defenders are good enough to play out from the back , them
Do it

[Donegal Hibby]

Do you actually attend hibs games at Easter road ?

Rocky is brutal in possession. I’m assuming you were at the two games at Dingwall recently, soon as rocky had it , Simon murray was all over him like a rash . Rocky lashes it out the park.

Other teams let him have it and close the space to play it .

The fact when we signed him he had only played about 50 games and was put into a position that was new to him while also having to cover for a fullback that was regularly caught out of position when we had to defend hasn't helped him .

He has improved since signing , in fact when he came back from international duty he was looking good .

I've watched enough games to see he has driven forward quite often with the ball , the lashing it out and teams allowing him to have it is a load of nonsense.

Guys not nearly has bad as some of you make out though some of you just need a scapegoat or someone to boo at games .

Anyhow can't really be bothered with this nonsense or your negativity .

So I leave it there .

Cmon the Hibees and Rocky :flag:

[Chipper1875]

The fact when we signed him he had only played about 50 games and was put into a position that was new to him while also having to cover for a fullback that was regularly caught out of position when we had to defend hasn't helped him .

He has improved since signing , in fact when he came back from international duty he was looking good .

I've watched enough games to see he has driven forward quite often with the ball , the lashing it out and teams allowing him to have it is a load of nonsense.

Guys not nearly has bad as some of you make out though some of you just need a scapegoat or someone to boo at games .

Anyhow can't really be bothered with this nonsense or your negativity .

So I leave it there .

Cmon the Hibees and Rocky :flag:

So you don’t go to
The games. I was at these two
Dingwall games . I watched it happen. Not forgotten the horrible goa
He gifted them

[Crunchie]

The guy was an unmitigated disaster and his arrogance and tactical naivety cost the club hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of pounds. Don't wish him good luck whatsoever. Left us a shambles. Up there with Butcher.
Jesus wept, I thought the post above yours was classless but yours takes the biscuit.

Good luck Monty I wish you nothing but success :aok:

[easty]

It makes no sense at all. I want CBs that can play football. I want to play out from the back. I want to create chances. I want to win games. By having better footballer players there is more chance of that happening.

We weren't close to getting what we needed. But the idea that we shouldn't look to play footballing CBs is just daft.

If we had defenders who were good at it, then of course you play that way. We don’t have an Ambrose or a Porteous.

I’d love a centre mid who can smash them in from distance, but we dinnae have one. Just because I’d like one of them to start Josh Albertz-ing it in on the regular, doesn’t mean we should be asking the players we have to try it.

Buying into a managers footballing philosophy is one thing, watching him try to implement it with players who can’t do it is another.

Failing to realise that you have to get the best out of what you have is a big reason he got the bullet.

[Paulie Walnuts]

If we had defenders who were good at it, then of course you play that way. We don’t have an Ambrose or a Porteous.

I’d love a centre mid who can smash them in from distance, but we dinnae have one. Just because I’d like one of them to start Josh Albertz-ing it in on the regular, doesn’t mean we should be asking the players we have to try it.

Buying into a managers footballing philosophy is one thing, watching him try to implement it with players who can’t do it is another.

Failing to realise that you have to get the best out of what you have is a big reason he got the bullet.

:agree:

I’m not sure chippers post is as hard to understand as ‘the usual suspects’ (I love how this is how we put down those we don’t agree with on this site) would have you believe.

I also don’t want to see our centre half’s trying to play football if one of them is rocky as he’s god awful with the ball.

[Donegal Hibby]

Is this the Monty to spurs thread ?

[MWHIBBIES]

Is this the Monty to spurs thread ?

Discussions evolve over pages. Plenty admins to police the forum if required.

[Donegal Hibby]

Discussions evolve over pages. Plenty admins to police the forum if required.

Yeah though it's a pity instead of showing abit of decorum to an ex manager who done his best we have now turned our attentions making a scapegoat out of one of our players.

Poor stuff really imo 😞

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah though it's a pity instead of showing abit of decorum to an ex manager who done his best we have now turned our attentions making a scapegoat out of one of our players.

Poor stuff really imo 😞

A bit of decorum. Jesus.

The guy was hopeless, failed miserably, delivered absolutely nothing, had the personality of an potato and turned loads of people off watching Hibs. We don’t all need to sit here and kiss his arse.

[easty]

Yeah though it's a pity instead of showing abit of decorum to an ex manager who done his best we have now turned our attentions making a scapegoat out of one of our players.

Poor stuff really imo 😞

:faf:

[Chipper1875]

Yeah though it's a pity instead of showing abit of decorum to an ex manager who done his best we have now turned our attentions making a scapegoat out of one of our players.

Poor stuff really imo 😞

Vast majority have wished Monty all the best. But fact remains he was a dud. I do find it fascinating that the people that don’t have a seaosn ticket and are not regular attendees to ER . Like yo tell hibs fans , as l see how we should support the team .

Rocky is brutal, signed in error . He’s a good lad but shouldn’t be playing for us

[MWHIBBIES]

Yeah though it's a pity instead of showing abit of decorum to an ex manager who done his best we have now turned our attentions making a scapegoat out of one of our players.

Poor stuff really imo 😞

All our ex managers done their best. That doesn't comfort me sadly.

[Since452]

A bit of decorum. Jesus.

The guy was hopeless, failed miserably, delivered absolutely nothing, had the personality of an potato and turned loads of people off watching Hibs. We don’t all need to sit here and kiss his arse.

:top marks

[Brightside]

A bit of decorum. Jesus.

The guy was hopeless, failed miserably, delivered absolutely nothing, had the personality of an potato and turned loads of people off watching Hibs. We don’t all need to sit here and kiss his arse.

The personality of a potato? Jeez I bet you are the life and soul of any get together mind you. :greengrin

[Donegal Hibby]

All our ex managers done their best. That doesn't comfort me sadly.

No but the guy paid the price and lost his job and has now moved on to a new one so hopefully he does well . Comments wishing him no well and referring to him being like butcher are poor and imo classless .

As to Rocky he HAS had good games for Hibs as well as some shockers though blaming him for everything when we had a midfield that regularly disappeared and a left back that thought his only job in the team was to attack while leaving us exposed that contributing next to nothing in assists and goals .

I'd wager Cochrane of hertz has even contributed more !

[JimBHibees]

If Monty had got is top six , he would’ve kept his job. He was getting sacked before he did . He failed miserably with what he had at his disposal . He needed be more pragmatic but was hell bent on playing a way that didn’t work for the players , we had .

Anyone that used rocky as. a ball playing centre half , shouldn’t be allowed to coach any team at any level

There is no way that sort of decision should be based on whether we lose a goal 10 seconds before the end of a game.

[Donegal Hibby]

A bit of decorum. Jesus.

The guy was hopeless, failed miserably, delivered absolutely nothing, had the personality of an potato and turned loads of people off watching Hibs. We don’t all need to sit here and kiss his arse.

No I'm sure you don't , much more fun being critical . Personality of a potato ? Wow . Your on form today 😂

[Paulie Walnuts]

No I'm sure you don't , much more fun being critical . Personality of a potato ? Wow . Your on form today 😂

Hang on.

You’re in your previous post claiming some of our players who are still at the club regularly go missing and that our POTY and PPOTY doesn’t know he has to defend and contributed next to nothing, then go on to make negative comparisons with him with our rivals left back and you’re moaning about people being critical.

Yet people criticise a manager who was an unarguable dud, who drove fans away, had us finish in the bottom 6 with no meaningful results over a near full season of football and has now left the club.. and that’s the part you’re calling poor and classless? :confused:

[Since452]

Hang on.

You’re in your previous post claiming some of our players who are still at the club regularly go missing and that our POTY and PPOTY doesn’t know he has to defend and contributed next to nothing, then go on to make negative comparisons with him with our rivals left back and you’re moaning about people being critical.

Yet people criticise a manager who was an unarguable dud, who drove fans away, had us finish in the bottom 6 with no meaningful results over a near full season of football and has now left the club.. and that’s the part you’re calling poor and classless? :confused:

Wholeheartedly agree. Montgomery believes he left Hibs in a better place than when he took over. Blamed the fans for making Easter Road a difficult place to play and thought scraping into the top six would cause jubilation. He was the epitome of someone that didn't get us. A wee token thank you in a statement like all sacked managers give doesn't change anything. The guy cost us massively by not charging his system for months and left us in 8th place. Will never understand the fawing over him by some. Lee Johnson got/gets a harder time. Montgomerys era was one of the worst I've seen watching Hibs. Horrible.

[we are hibs]

Wholeheartedly agree. Montgomery believes he left Hibs in a better place than when he took over. Blamed the fans for making Easter Road a difficult place to play and thought scraping into the top six would cause jubilation. He was the epitome of someone that didn't get us. A wee token thank you in a statement like all sacked managers give doesn't change anything. The guy cost us massively by not charging his system for months and left us in 8th place. Will never understand the fawing over him by some. Lee Johnson got/gets a harder time.Because lee Johnson was a fud.

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[Since452]

Because lee Johnson was a fud.

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He was but he's a better manager then Montgomery. Not even close.

[The Modfather]

He was but he's a better manager then Montgomery. Not even close.

We’re still trying to unpick the mess Johnson left. A mess that also played a big part in why Montgomery was never likely to succeed, alongside all Montgomery’s own failings.

Gray only inherited Amos & NMW from Montgomery, both of which have reasonable hope of being part of the solution. How much money did Johnson spend? Not just the million pound in fees alone on Levitt & Vente, but did we not also pay fees for Mckirdy, Wollacot & Harbottle?

Gray has one hand tied behind his back trying to move on the likes of Levitt, Vente, Wollacot, McKirdy, Kenneh, Harbottle, Tavares & Miller from Johnson’s signings.

[Iain G]

He was but he's a better manager then Montgomery. Not even close.

You still having an LJ love in? He was a complete failure and left an unbalanced squad behind him.

[Chipper1875]

You still having an LJ love in? He was a complete failure and left an unbalanced squad behind him.

He finished above Monty. Both were duds .

[Donegal Hibby]

Hang on.

You’re in your previous post claiming some of our players who are still at the club regularly go missing and that our POTY and PPOTY doesn’t know he has to defend and contributed next to nothing, then go on to make negative comparisons with him with our rivals left back and you’re moaning about people being critical.

Yet people criticise a manager who was an unarguable dud, who drove fans away, had us finish in the bottom 6 with no meaningful results over a near full season of football and has now left the club.. and that’s the part you’re calling poor and classless? :confused:

Rock 1st ... In the Killie game until we scored the 2nd goal we were good in though after that they dominated us , the midfield fell out of the game and we were under relentless pressure . Which happened in many games last season.

Not all the defence's fault btw.

As to Obita , good player though like Cadden their main strength is attacking . Defensively both are weak which didn't exactly help either CH though in particular Rocky as he was playing in a position that was new to him and he regularly had to cover the LB position as there was no-one else there .

Most of the season it was like this which Obita contributed with 2 goals and 0 assists ( Cochrane 0 goals , 4 assists) i think.

Heavy price to pay for in 2 goals considering the amount of crosses into our box ,chances other teams created and goals we lost from the left side all season

Though let's not blame the team or tactics when it's much easier to blame Rocky for it !!

Monty now ... There was an element of bad luck he had in decisions , being so close in the Motherwell game to top 6 too .

Coming back from 2-0 down at tiny not meaningful ? Fair enough , each to their own views .

Maybe that's the way some of you are towards ex managers that failed like Monty , Hecky etc though normally I'm sorry to see someone lose their jobs and in Monty's case after the move him and his family had I probably had abit more sympathy for him .

I was delighted for him and his family that he got another job and even though he didn't succeed at us I'm sure it wasn't for the lack of effort on his part .

Wish the guy well in the future ...

After he left the club he only spoke in a good way about it and to not wish him well , to make remarks comparing him to butcher when he was nothing like him is poor , classless in my book .

Enough now. I'm away to find another thread that hasn't any animosity or negativity towards ex managers or our current players.
:bye:

[BILLYHIBS]

Rock 1st ... In the Killie game until we scored the 2nd goal we were good in though after that they dominated us , the midfield fell out of the game and we were under relentless pressure . Which happened in many games last season.

Not all the defence's fault btw.

As to Obita , good player though like Cadden their main strength is attacking . Defensively both are weak which didn't exactly help either CH though in particular Rocky as he was playing in a position that was new to him and he regularly had to cover the LB position as there was no-one else there .

Most of the season it was like this which Obita contributed with 2 goals and 0 assists ( Cochrane 0 goals , 4 assists) i think.

Heavy price to pay for in 2 goals considering the amount of crosses into our box ,chances other teams created and goals we lost from the left side all season

Though let's not blame the team or tactics when it's much easier to blame Rocky for it !!

Monty now ... There was an element of bad luck he had in decisions , being so close in the Motherwell game to top 6 too .

Coming back from 2-0 down at tiny not meaningful ? Fair enough , each to their own views .

Maybe that's the way some of you are towards ex managers that failed like Monty , Hecky etc though normally I'm sorry to see someone lose their jobs and in Monty's case after the move him and his family had I probably had abit more sympathy for him .

I was delighted for him and his family that he got another job and even though he didn't succeed at us I'm sure it wasn't for the lack of effort on his part .

Wish the guy well in the future ...

After he left the club he only spoke in a good way about it and to not wish him well , to make remarks comparing him to butcher when he was nothing like him is poor , classless in my book .

Enough now. I'm away to find another thread that hasn't any animosity or negativity towards ex managers or our current players.
:bye:

Dinnae get me started on Obita that 0-4 versus Aberdeen he was involved in every Sheep goal and not in a good way

Monty shudda walked after that as his lives were running oot

If that was Rocky he would have been crucified

But wait a minute Obita won our POTY ?

Shudda been Maolida but I guess the votes were already in ��

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Should we maybe just sack Gray now then, will save a lot of stress and teeth grinding 😁🤣

What does this even mean 🤔

[Iain G]

What does this even mean 🤔

Am considering the wellbeing of our fans, sacking the manager straight away will take away the stress of sacking the manager...

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Am considering the wellbeing of our fans, sacking the manager straight away will take away the stress of sacking the manager...

Very considerate of you 🤭

[Winston Ingram]

He wasn’t guff. People not understanding the change he was trying to make was the issue. Change that he was actually hired to do. It was yet another poor managerial decision. Don’t hire projects if you don’t want to see the project through.

I don’t think he understood the change he was trying to make.

He didn’t have a single positive to hang his coat on.

The poor managerial change we made here were hiring him and taking too long to sack him.

[Winston Ingram]

He was but he's a better manager then Montgomery. Not even close.

So much better.

[Iain G]

So much better.

My favourite **** manager that we sacked was less **** than your favourite **** manager we sacked 😁

[Winston Ingram]

My favourite **** manager that we sacked was less **** than your favourite **** manager we sacked 😁

It's a hard job picking my favourite manager in recent years as it's been slim pickings. He was just significantly better than Montgomery, which isn't much of a boast.

[tamig]

He was but he's a better manager then Montgomery. Not even close.

On what basis? LJ has several years managerial time on NM. Whats your definition of “better manager” in context? I’ll not ask about your final sentence. Your anti-NM comments before he even joined were poor. The latest stuff is off the scale. Pish patter.

[overdrive]

On what basis? LJ has several years managerial time on NM. Whats your definition of “better manager” in context? I’ll not ask about your final sentence. Your anti-NM comments before he even joined were poor. The latest stuff is off the scale. Pish patter.

He finished a lot further up the league for a start. The guys a knob but he’s a way better manager than NM

[ChilliEater]

He finished a lot further up the league for a start. The guys a knob but he’s a way better manager than NM

LJ 52 games; 20 wins; 8 draws; 24 defeats; 1.31 ppg

NM 37 games; 12 wins; 12 draws; 13 defeats; 1.30 ppg

Stats say there's nothing much in it.

I'd think LJ did better in the league, while NM did better in the cups, but haven't looked up the stats on that. Neither had a great record. Both could argue that they had shown glimpses of why they should have got longer but must also have realised that the sack was also justifiable based on results.

[Winston Ingram]

You still having an LJ love in? He was a complete failure and left an unbalanced squad behind him.

Complete failure? Qualified us for Europe and got us one of our greatest European wins in decades.

He maybe a fud, but he was a better manager than Monty will ever be.

[Since452]

On what basis? LJ has several years managerial time on NM. Whats your definition of “better manager” in context? I’ll not ask about your final sentence. Your anti-NM comments before he even joined were poor. The latest stuff is off the scale. Pish patter.

League position? Points? results? big game wins? Style of football? Europe? The list goes on.

My anti-NM comments before he joined were that he would be a monumental risk and a very poor appointment when there were better options available and I was proved right (and I've refrained from saying that until now). I got absolutely slaughtered for having an opinion then and not fawning over him like others and still am now. Didn't like the guy, thought he was a honking, arrogant manager and he did way more harm than good to my football club. That being said, I still wished him the best of luck when he was appointed. He's gone now and thank ****.

[LeithMike]

The guy was an unmitigated disaster and his arrogance and tactical naivety cost the club hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of pounds. Don't wish him good luck whatsoever. Left us a shambles. Up there with Butcher.

Bit harsh, no? He took over a disjointed and unbalanced team with no real style of play that was bottom of the league after losing relatively easy fixtures in the first 3 games and looked like prime relegation candidates.

He clearly improved us before things went a bit pear-shaped after the semi-final defeat to Aberdeen at Hampden and never really seemed to get us going again.

Consider the mess he took over there is no way that it can be described as an unmitigated disaster and there was a case for giving him the summer and getting his own players in. The nature of the defeat to Aberdeen at ER did for him but you would have to be fairly blinkered not to see some redeeming features to his time here.


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[Chipper1875]

Bit harsh, no? He took over a disjointed and unbalanced team with no real style of play that was bottom of the league after losing relatively easy fixtures in the first 3 games and looked like prime relegation candidates.

He clearly improved us before things went a bit pear-shaped after the semi-final defeat to Aberdeen at Hampden and never really seemed to get us going again.

Consider the mess he took over there is no way that it can be described as an unmitigated disaster and there was a case for giving him the summer and getting his own players in. The nature of the defeat to Aberdeen at ER did for him but you would have to be fairly blinkered not to see some redeeming features to his time here.


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We weren’t bottom of the league

[MWHIBBIES]

Bit harsh, no? He took over a disjointed and unbalanced team with no real style of play that was bottom of the league after losing relatively easy fixtures in the first 3 games and looked like prime relegation candidates.

He clearly improved us before things went a bit pear-shaped after the semi-final defeat to Aberdeen at Hampden and never really seemed to get us going again.

Consider the mess he took over there is no way that it can be described as an unmitigated disaster and there was a case for giving him the summer and getting his own players in. The nature of the defeat to Aberdeen at ER did for him but you would have to be fairly blinkered not to see some redeeming features to his time here.


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At no point did we look like prime relegation candidates.

He was crap.

[Iain G]

League position? Points? results? big game wins? Style of football? Europe? The list goes on.

My anti-NM comments before he joined were that he would be a monumental risk and a very poor appointment when there were better options available and I was proved right (and I've refrained from saying that until now). I got absolutely slaughtered for having an opinion then and not fawning over him like others and still am now. Didn't like the guy, thought he was a honking, arrogant manager and he did way more harm than good to my football club. That being said, I still wished him the best of luck when he was appointed. He's gone now and thank ****.

But you like LJ, an even more arrogant honking manager and bull****ter galore 🤣

[Paulie Walnuts]

Bit harsh, no? He took over a disjointed and unbalanced team with no real style of play that was bottom of the league after losing relatively easy fixtures in the first 3 games and looked like prime relegation candidates.

He clearly improved us before things went a bit pear-shaped after the semi-final defeat to Aberdeen at Hampden and never really seemed to get us going again.

Consider the mess he took over there is no way that it can be described as an unmitigated disaster and there was a case for giving him the summer and getting his own players in. The nature of the defeat to Aberdeen at ER did for him but you would have to be fairly blinkered not to see some redeeming features to his time here.


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He won one of his first seven (maybe even eight?) league games. He was absolutely guff from the minute he came in the door. There was absolutely nothing positive about his reign. And there is absolutely nothing about seeing no redeeming features of his time that is blinkered. He was horrific and can point to absolutely nothing that he can claim to have done successfully.

[Iain G]

He won one of his first seven (maybe even eight?) league games. He was absolutely guff from the minute he came in the door. There was absolutely nothing positive about his reign. And there is absolutely nothing about seeing no redeeming features of his time that is blinkered. He was horrific and can point to absolutely nothing that he can claim to have done successfully.

Signed Maolida and got a tune out of him, improved marshalls performance, improved Jair, identified the midfield issues that plagued us got years and brought ok two players who will likely be the backbone of our midfield this season.

It didn't work but to say there are no positives is just rubbish.

[Smartie]

Complete failure? Qualified us for Europe and got us one of our greatest European wins in decades.

He maybe a fud, but he was a better manager than Monty will ever be.

Defending Monty isn’t really a natural position for me as I thought he showed nothing to deserve more time… but he was dealt a far weaker hand than Johnson.

I didn’t mind Johnson and wouldn’t have sacked him when we did (that decision being the reason for last season being a fiasco imo) but he had a whole summer before he started, a January window and a big chunk of last summer to make it look like they were making progress. Monty picked up the pieces of that incomplete window and had to work with what was there - and I’m not going to defend the the indefensible way he worked with that.

Johnson has turned round ropey runs throughout his career and the decision to sack him 3 games into the season was a nonsense imo.

What I would say is that Gray looks to be being given a better chance than either of the previous 2, which is a massive relief.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Signed Maolida and got a tune out of him, improved marshalls performance, improved Jair, identified the midfield issues that plagued us got years and brought ok two players who will likely be the backbone of our midfield this season.

It didn't work but to say there are no positives is just rubbish.

Ah yes. The guy who started about half the games he was here for last season and the guy who didn’t even manage a start are going to be the backbone of our midfield this season.

Jair and Marshall were both not good enough last season. It’s telling that the positives you’ve found were 2 poor performers and 2 players who combined, spent more time on the bench than starting. Maolida was excellent, but on the flip side, he managed to make Marcondes look like an absolute dud.

There was absolutely zero positives to having Nick Montgomery as our manager. Without doubt the worst manager we’ve had since Terry Butcher. Horrific stuff.

[Iain G]

Ah yes. The guy who started about half the games he was here for last season and the guy who didn’t even manage a start are going to be the backbone of our midfield this season.

Jair and Marshall were both not good enough last season. It’s telling that the positives you’ve found were 2 poor performers and 2 players who combined, spent more time on the bench than starting. Maolida was excellent, but on the flip side, he managed to make Marcondes look like an absolute dud.

There was absolutely zero positives to having Nick Montgomery as our manager. Without doubt the worst manager we’ve had since Terry Butcher. Horrific stuff.

You aren't a nuanced Hibs supporter are you!

Regardless of your view of his time here, am happy for him that he has picked up a new position in the UK after upending his family and moving them halfway round the planet.