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04Sauzee
20-06-2024, 01:27 PM
Sorry I managed to post this on another thread but thought this deserved a thread of it's own

BREAKING: Rangers scrambling to find temporary stadium with Ibrox NOT available for all of August due to disastrous building delay

Someone has already been fired over the debacle.

thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/12973292

04Sauzee
20-06-2024, 01:30 PM
From their official site

RANGERS has recently been advised of a delay in a materials shipment from Asia which is likely to have an impact on the programme for the completion of the Copland Stand works.

It is therefore expected, unfortunately, that there will be an impact on matches at Ibrox at the beginning of the 2024/25 competitive season.

The club has engaged with the SPFL and UEFA in order to review planned contingency arrangements. Naturally, everyone at Rangers is deeply disappointed with this news.

The club is working intensively to ensure that all steps are taken to deliver the project at the earliest possible date and a further progress update will be issued to supporters in due course.

G15 Hibs
20-06-2024, 01:33 PM
This would be comical in any circumstances, but even more so given the fuss they kicked up about Dens.

Hampden not available to Queen's Park until September due to summer concerts so unlikely that'll be the solution.

Since452
20-06-2024, 01:36 PM
This would be comical in any circumstances, but even more so given the fuss they kicked up about Dens.

Hampden not available to Queen's Park until September due to summer concerts so unlikely that'll be the solution.

They're in talks with Scottish Rugby about Murrayfield :rolleyes:

He's here!
20-06-2024, 01:38 PM
This would be comical in any circumstances, but even more so given the fuss they kicked up about Dens.

Hampden not available to Queen's Park until September due to summer concerts so unlikely that'll be the solution.

They were right to kick up a fuss about Dens.

04Sauzee
20-06-2024, 01:38 PM
They're in talks with Scottish Rugby about Murrayfield :rolleyes:

Wonder if there will be a delay in fixtures? They won't have Hearts and Rangers at home the same day, they don't normally have Hibs and Hearts the same day. So they will have to be Saturday/ Sunday games.

G15 Hibs
20-06-2024, 01:40 PM
They were right to kick up a fuss about Dens.

Maybe. But their righteous indignation then makes this funnier.

greenlex
20-06-2024, 01:45 PM
4 away games to start followed by 4 at home. Surely can’t be that difficult to accommodate.

Lancs Harp
20-06-2024, 01:50 PM
They were right to kick up a fuss about Dens.

Ive heard Dundee have offered the use of Dens 😃

eastmainsmsh
20-06-2024, 01:50 PM
Fine and docked points for they are the people

Haymaker
20-06-2024, 01:51 PM
4 away games to start followed by 4 at home. Surely can’t be that difficult to accommodate.Yeah, that's the easy solution surely?!

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Hibbyradge
20-06-2024, 01:53 PM
4 away games to start followed by 4 at home. Surely can’t be that difficult to accommodate.

I doubt they'll be able to guarantee that it'll be ready in 4 weeks.

Also, not as easy for UEFA to schedule.

MWHIBBIES
20-06-2024, 01:57 PM
4 away games to start followed by 4 at home. Surely can’t be that difficult to accommodate.

They're in Europe which i think will be the issue.

Pagan Hibernia
20-06-2024, 02:07 PM
They're in talks with Scottish Rugby about Murrayfield :rolleyes:

They should just ask hearts if they can borrow Tynie for a game or two, im sure they'd get no objections. Hearts get a few quid and might sell a few hotel rooms too.

Having said that, Murrayfield is practically Hearts territory anyway

Victor
20-06-2024, 02:15 PM
They should move the games to Belfast, their spiritual home.

GloryGlory
20-06-2024, 02:26 PM
Wonder if there will be a delay in fixtures? They won't have Hearts and Rangers at home the same day, they don't normally have Hibs and Hearts the same day. So they will have to be Saturday/ Sunday games.

Since the OF are almost always on Sky TV each week, kick off times shouldn't be a problem. Hibs will KO on Saturday 3:00 p.m. for home games. Not sure about the Yams if they Euro fixtures on the Thursday.

Glory Lurker
20-06-2024, 02:29 PM
One thing you can be sure of is that the authorities will do everything they can to avoid treating them like they would anyone else, Celtc apart.

NC1875
20-06-2024, 02:30 PM
Did someone forget to order the seats ?

GreenCastle
20-06-2024, 02:32 PM
Celtic never play Rangers first game so it won’t matter.

Dodgy league fixtures.

When I saw the work they had planned I was surprised they could finish it in such a short space of time.

Will probably end up at Murrayfield with 50,000 of them coming to Edinburgh again after the Man Utd fixture.

SHODAN
20-06-2024, 03:12 PM
Edinburgh city council should be blocking any attempt to host Rangers in Edinburgh. Get that to ****.

Hampden or nothing.

gbhibby
20-06-2024, 03:38 PM
Edinburgh city council should be blocking any attempt to host Rangers in Edinburgh. Get that to ****.

Hampden or nothing.
Worst nightmare old firm match at Murrayfield.

snedzuk
20-06-2024, 03:44 PM
Edinburgh city council should be blocking any attempt to host Rangers in Edinburgh. Get that to ****.

Hampden or nothing.

Why - a good bit of their fan base is here.

Alfred E Newman
20-06-2024, 03:45 PM
Wonder if there will be a delay in fixtures? They won't have Hearts and Rangers at home the same day, they don't normally have Hibs and Hearts the same day. So they will have to be Saturday/ Sunday games.

Rangers will be on the telly as per usual so it would be all Sundays for them.

GloryGlory
20-06-2024, 03:45 PM
Edinburgh city council should be blocking any attempt to host Rangers in Edinburgh. Get that to ****.

Hampden or nothing.

I wonder what the local residents will think if The Rangers' hordes are rampaging around their neighbourhood for possibly 3/4 games in August.

G15 Hibs
20-06-2024, 03:47 PM
Hampden or nothing.

"Following the three concerts scheduled for the National Stadium this summer, the Hampden playing surface will be renovated and be available for use by Queen’s Park following Scotland Men’s UEFA Nations League match against Poland on September 5th."

Spiders to remain at Hampden for season 2024-25 | Queen's Park Football Club (queensparkfc.co.uk) (https://queensparkfc.co.uk/spiders-to-remain-at-hampden-for-season-2024-25/)

Renfrew_Hibby
20-06-2024, 03:47 PM
Just know we'll get punted to 12noon on a Sunday so they can have their usual Saturday 3pm 'home' fixture slot

Greenio
20-06-2024, 03:52 PM
I wonder what the local residents will think if The Rangers' hordes are rampaging around their neighbourhood for possibly 3/4 games in August.

This is why it won't happen. Never underestimate the power of locals.


What a f up they've made of this. Delays aye?it's called contingency planning!

Billy Whizz
20-06-2024, 03:53 PM
Edinburgh city council should be blocking any attempt to host Rangers in Edinburgh. Get that to ****.

Hampden or nothing.

I’d rather it was Rangers v Hibs at Murrayfield than at Ibrox

Renfrew_Hibby
20-06-2024, 04:08 PM
Murrayfields capacity should be restricted to that of Ibrox for these fixtures.
An extra 17,000 ×4 games × say £30 = a cool £2M.

They should be out of pocket for renting the place, not making extra.

Since90+2
20-06-2024, 04:09 PM
I’d rather it was Rangers v Hibs at Murrayfield than at Ibrox

I'd be amazed if they had Rangers v Hibs or to a lesser extend Hearts at Murrayfield. Too much potential for bother.

If they do play there it will be against someone like Ross County, St Johnstone ect.

Northernhibee
20-06-2024, 04:14 PM
No doubt the games will be declared unplayable and Sevco awarded a 3-0 victory in each.

Scorrie
20-06-2024, 04:15 PM
So they’re up to their knees in building rubble?

04Sauzee
20-06-2024, 04:19 PM
Murrayfields capacity should be restricted to that of Ibrox for these fixtures.
An extra 17,000 ×4 games × say £30 = a cool £2M.

They should be out of pocket for renting the place, not making extra.
Didn't stop hearts from selling extra tickets when they used Murrayfield. Wonder how much it would cost to rent though.

Billy Whizz
20-06-2024, 04:32 PM
Why can’t they play the games with just 3 stands open, unless the Copeland Rd one is a building site

Aldo
20-06-2024, 04:38 PM
Why can’t they play the games with just 3 stands open, unless the Copeland Rd one is a building site

They need a safety certificate issued for the ground and the area where the works are taking place may have an exit thats used in emergencies.

I would think they would have asked that question of the local authority and relevant emergency services.

Lendo
20-06-2024, 04:59 PM
They're in talks with Scottish Rugby about Murrayfield :rolleyes:

Ohhh **** off…. I’ve just bought a flat round the corner and get the keys in August. Don’t want that shower of **** turning up every second weekend.

Kojock
20-06-2024, 05:15 PM
Wonder if there will be a delay in fixtures? They won't have Hearts and Rangers at home the same day, they don't normally have Hibs and Hearts the same day. So they will have to be Saturday/ Sunday games.

Hibs at home and Hearts away Saturday leaves the Sunday free for Murrayfield

Bostonhibby
20-06-2024, 05:33 PM
Jeez, how did this happen? Project management means this shouldn't just sneak up on you.

Only solution is a penalty to sevco.

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MWHIBBIES
20-06-2024, 05:41 PM
Jeez, how did this happen? Project management means this shouldn't just sneak up on you.

Only solution is a penalty to sevco.

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It didn't. Been said on twitter that they've known for weeks, refused to put overtime on etc.

Apparently there is subsidence in that stand.

Bostonhibby
20-06-2024, 05:43 PM
It didn't. Been said on twitter that they've known for weeks, refused to put overtime on etc.

Apparently there is subsidence in that stand.Was being sarky[emoji6]

Should have got Mrs doctor Budge to oversee it for them.



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hibsbollah
20-06-2024, 05:43 PM
It didn't. Been said on twitter that they've known for weeks, refused to put overtime on etc.

Apparently there is subsidence in that stand.

7000 of us jumping on it in 2005-6 responsible .

Ozyhibby
20-06-2024, 05:45 PM
Murrayfields capacity should be restricted to that of Ibrox for these fixtures.
An extra 17,000 ×4 games × say £30 = a cool £2M.

They should be out of pocket for renting the place, not making extra.

Murrayfield will charge them heavily for the use of the stadium. They have all the power in the negotiation as they are the only option for Rangers.


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NORTHERNHIBBY
20-06-2024, 05:46 PM
The cry was no til September.

ruthven_raiders
20-06-2024, 06:06 PM
I wonder what the local residents will think if The Rangers' hordes are rampaging around their neighbourhood for possibly 3/4 games in August.

Also friendly against man u

Since90+2
20-06-2024, 06:29 PM
Murrayfield will charge them heavily for the use of the stadium. They have all the power in the negotiation as they are the only option for Rangers.


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I can't imagine the SRU will be that difficult to deal with, they have no reason to. This is additional unaccounted for revenue and given the financials of the SRU they'll be all for it.

If they operate their own in-house catering they'll also pocket all that money from a 67,000 attendance plus the venue hire cost.

Rangers will be able to sell an additional 17,000 tickets that they otherwise wouldn't have which will easily cover the venue hire cost.

They are both commercial entities and it will be a fairly easy deal if the local authorities have no issues.

Waxy
20-06-2024, 06:55 PM
What’s wrong with Hampden?
It’s a kind of home for them anyway

Eyrie
20-06-2024, 07:09 PM
Surely there must be another stadium in Glasgow with 60k capacity that they could use with Ibrox and Hampden being unavailable?


(Moved to keep Keith_M happy) :greengrin

gbhibby
20-06-2024, 07:09 PM
It didn't. Been said on twitter that they've known for weeks, refused to put overtime on etc.

Apparently there is subsidence in that stand.
Hullo Hullo we are the sinking boys. they're up
to their knees in underpinning.
The hard hat my father wore.

badabing67
20-06-2024, 07:30 PM
Murrayfield will charge them heavily for the use of the stadium. They have all the power in the negotiation as they are the only option for Rangers.


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They should go to Parkhead and play there. Keep them where they belong in Glasgow.

Up-the-slope
20-06-2024, 08:12 PM
The cry was no til September.

:thumbsup:

linlithgowhibbie
20-06-2024, 08:30 PM
Did we not have to play with only 3 stands when we knocked down the old west? Make them do the same. Don't sell their hospitality and put their ST holders in there.

SHODAN
20-06-2024, 08:33 PM
"Following the three concerts scheduled for the National Stadium this summer, the Hampden playing surface will be renovated and be available for use by Queen’s Park following Scotland Men’s UEFA Nations League match against Poland on September 5th."

Spiders to remain at Hampden for season 2024-25 | Queen's Park Football Club (queensparkfc.co.uk) (https://queensparkfc.co.uk/spiders-to-remain-at-hampden-for-season-2024-25/)

What a shame. Parkhead it is.

Moulin Yarns
20-06-2024, 08:51 PM
Play behind closed doors?

04Sauzee
20-06-2024, 08:59 PM
The SFA are reportedly willing to offer Rangers the use of Hampden to ease their scheduling headache - with one report claiming the pitch at the National Stadium WON'T be a problem.

The Ibrox side announced on Thursday they are looking at alternative options with their home ground now likely to be out of action for the first month of the 2024/25 season due to improvement works on the Copland Road stand being behind schedule. That's sparked an almighty headache and an SFA spokesperson said soon after that they'd be willing to get around the table to help them come to a solution.

GreenCastle
20-06-2024, 09:01 PM
Play behind closed doors?

Not the worst idea - assume they will be pushing for Murrayfield though. Wonder if the friendly game was planned in case this happened.

Will probably mean possibly 6 games being played there - plus the Man Utd game (20th July) could be 7 plus.

League
League Cup
Europe games

Wonder what the cost of Hampden would actually be - surely it would be made public and not just a freebie!

Not In The Know
20-06-2024, 09:17 PM
Hullo Hullo we are the sinking boys. they're up
to their knees in underpinning.
The hard hat my father wore.


Is it just me or does anyone else not appreciate any ref, in no shape or form, to these shan songs?

gbhibby
20-06-2024, 09:27 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else not appreciate any ref, in no shape or form, to these shan songs?

I was being Satirical. Don't like the songs either.

Not In The Know
20-06-2024, 09:35 PM
I was being Satirical. Don't like the songs either.

yeah, I get that. And respect it was a satirical post. 👍. I’d rather iit was just completely removed from the planet.

O'Rourke3
20-06-2024, 09:36 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else not appreciate any ref, in no shape or form, to these shan songs?I've being going to games for 50 years now and still have no Scoobie to any of the lyrics. This generally includes our songs too, since we seem to have stopped singing the old ones.

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tamig
20-06-2024, 09:39 PM
7000 of us jumping on it in 2005-6 responsible .

Other end bud.

Carheenlea
20-06-2024, 11:02 PM
Other end bud.


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A Hi-Bee
21-06-2024, 01:01 PM
Most of the huns will still be in Germany supporting the English.
Who care how the poxy ground is doing.

silverhibee
21-06-2024, 01:25 PM
So they’re up to their knees in building rubble?

And asbestos allegedly.

silverhibee
21-06-2024, 01:27 PM
Ohhh **** off…. I’ve just bought a flat round the corner and get the keys in August. Don’t want that shower of **** turning up every second weekend.

I’m a 5 minute walk from the stadium and it will be a nightmare, locals should kicking up a stink if this goes ahead as it might not just be a few games.

McD
21-06-2024, 03:11 PM
I know Celtic will likely kick up a stink (and therefore the likely reason it wouldn’t happen!), but why can’t they play away from home for the first few matches?


I know league cup ties could become an issue (well it’s rangers, so they’ll almost certainly be drawn at home :greengrin), surely they can be played at hampden

Bostonhibby
21-06-2024, 03:19 PM
Could they play in Belfast? Save a lot of their fans travelling and it's also a chance for those making the journey to do a bit of guarding on Derry's walls like they say in the song?

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Renfrew_Hibby
21-06-2024, 03:41 PM
I know Celtic will likely kick up a stink (and therefore the likely reason it wouldn’t happen!), but why can’t they play away from home for the first few matches?


I know league cup ties could become an issue (well it’s rangers, so they’ll almost certainly be drawn at home :greengrin), surely they can be played at hampden

I'm sure Coventry City had to play 5 or 6 games away at the start of the season a couple of years ago after their pitch was damaged after some rugby matches were played on it at the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham.

Hibs4185
21-06-2024, 03:57 PM
They should move the games to Belfast, their spiritual home.

And never return

gbhibby
21-06-2024, 09:32 PM
As I was walking down the Copeland Road
Chanced to meet a builder
And he said to me I've been paid off
By the F in Glasgow Rangers

Slateford Hibee
23-06-2024, 09:01 AM
Surely the council can't allow Murrayfield to be used when the festival is on. Would be mental to have 60k extra folk in town then.

MWHIBBIES
23-06-2024, 09:07 AM
Surely the council can't allow Murrayfield to be used when the festival is on. Would be mental to have 60k extra folk in town then.

Would be more mental to have a capital city that can't have a festival and a football/rugby match on same day.

Rugby has been on same day as Hibs and festival before I'm sure. It's awful on trains but manageable.

Billy McKirdy
23-06-2024, 09:22 AM
[QUOTE=MWHIBBIES;7687618]It didn't. Been said on twitter that they've known for weeks, refused to put overtime on etc.

Apparently there is subsidence in that stand.[/

This on Twitter regards subsidence

https://x.com/lordalhayes/status/1804252354105217306?s=46&t=cUOhdrfVAdnvxt1-nYsAKg

Keith_M
23-06-2024, 06:46 PM
This on Twitter regards subsidence

https://x.com/lordalhayes/status/1804252354105217306?s=46&t=cUOhdrfVAdnvxt1-nYsAKg


Having trouble viewing that. Any chance you could copy-paste on here?

Carheenlea
23-06-2024, 07:27 PM
Having trouble viewing that. Any chance you could copy-paste on here?

Try opening this one - https://x.com/lordalhayes/status/1804252354105217306?s=46

There’s 5 pages of a Twitter Post so I’d doubt anyone’s going to be copying and pasting for anyone!

Bridge hibs
23-06-2024, 07:42 PM
Having trouble viewing that. Any chance you could copy-paste on here?General gist of it

I have ran past #Ibrox Stadium almost every day for the last 5 years or so (I always like paying my respects to The John Greig statue).

One thing I and other locals have noticed is the MASSIVE change in elevation on the run past the stadium. 3/5


When I started, the elevation gain was around 0m.This has gradually dropped into negative readings year on year and is now showing MINUS 16 METRES. A clear indication that there is indeed a huge subsidence problem, which could take millions of pounds and over a DECADE to fix. 4/5

I have years of Strava data to back this up and only really looked back at it, after the news broke.

This is a HUGE problem and the most sensible economic play is to wind the club up and relocate to a new site (e.g Shawfield or Cathkin Braes both holding soccer licenses).

/END

Ive just a hunch that could possibly be a wind up merchant 😁

Glory Lurker
23-06-2024, 07:50 PM
Sounds like Rangers Tax Case stuff!

McD
24-06-2024, 09:46 AM
General gist of it

I have ran past #Ibrox Stadium almost every day for the last 5 years or so (I always like paying my respects to The John Greig statue).

One thing I and other locals have noticed is the MASSIVE change in elevation on the run past the stadium. 3/5


When I started, the elevation gain was around 0m.This has gradually dropped into negative readings year on year and is now showing MINUS 16 METRES. A clear indication that there is indeed a huge subsidence problem, which could take millions of pounds and over a DECADE to fix. 4/5

I have years of Strava data to back this up and only really looked back at it, after the news broke.

This is a HUGE problem and the most sensible economic play is to wind the club up and relocate to a new site (e.g Shawfield or Cathkin Braes both holding soccer licenses).

/END

Ive just a hunch that could possibly be a wind up merchant 😁



I think later in that thread it becomes clear it’s someone on the windup to noise up rangers fans

gbhibby
24-06-2024, 10:24 AM
https://images.app.goo.gl/G9DmDJyKAw6Rrvuh9


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Paul1642
24-06-2024, 06:26 PM
I think later in that thread it becomes clear it’s someone on the windup to noise up rangers fans

Sinking 16 metres would have the stadium in the dirt long ago 😂 Someone at the wind up.

gbhibby
24-06-2024, 07:00 PM
Sinking 16 metres would have the stadium in the dirt long ago 😂 Someone at the wind up.

It was more like 16.90 metres.😁

Keith_M
24-06-2024, 07:01 PM
General gist of it

I have ran past #Ibrox Stadium almost every day for the last 5 years or so (I always like paying my respects to The John Greig statue).

One thing I and other locals have noticed is the MASSIVE change in elevation on the run past the stadium. 3/5


When I started, the elevation gain was around 0m.This has gradually dropped into negative readings year on year and is now showing MINUS 16 METRES. A clear indication that there is indeed a huge subsidence problem, which could take millions of pounds and over a DECADE to fix. 4/5

I have years of Strava data to back this up and only really looked back at it, after the news broke.

This is a HUGE problem and the most sensible economic play is to wind the club up and relocate to a new site (e.g Shawfield or Cathkin Braes both holding soccer licenses).

/END

Ive just a hunch that could possibly be a wind up merchant 😁


Cheers.

Would be funny but suspect it's probably just a windup as well.

Keith_M
24-06-2024, 07:02 PM
https://images.app.goo.gl/G9DmDJyKAw6Rrvuh9


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One of the best films ever!


:greengrin

Bridge hibs
24-06-2024, 07:32 PM
Cheers.

Would be funny but suspect it's probably just a windup as well.

Yeah, the 16 metres done it for me 😁

CentreLine
24-06-2024, 09:18 PM
I seem to remember reading, a while back, that there was a rule that a team have to use the one venue for their home games in European competitions from start to finish. Is that a thing or am I misremembering?
If it was the case, it wouldn’t half piss off our bigoted neighbours in the west.

Pescarese
25-06-2024, 11:11 AM
I seem to remember reading, a while back, that there was a rule that a team have to use the one venue for their home games in European competitions from start to finish. Is that a thing or am I misremembering?
If it was the case, it wouldn’t half piss off our bigoted neighbours in the west.

Good remembering. The Champions League rule gives UEFA some leeway, and allows change after the two early rounds the stickies have to negotiate. They may be under some time pressure if they intend to stay in the competition. They can't just choose for themselves.

Here you go: -


¨As of the league phase, a club must in principle play all its matches in the competition at one and the same stadium. Additionally, any change of stadium between the play-offs and the league phase must be agreed in advance with UEFA.¨

I've not looked at the other competitions that are their usual reward for failure.

CentreLine
25-06-2024, 06:46 PM
Good remembering. The Champions League rule gives UEFA some leeway, and allows change after the two early rounds the stickies have to negotiate. They may be under some time pressure if they intend to stay in the competition. They can't just choose for themselves.

Here you go: -


¨As of the league phase, a club must in principle play all its matches in the competition at one and the same stadium. Additionally, any change of stadium between the play-offs and the league phase must be agreed in advance with UEFA.¨

I've not looked at the other competitions that are their usual reward for failure.

Well found! I like that. Not much pressure on The Rangers International FC then 🤭

Bostonhibby
25-06-2024, 06:55 PM
Well found! I like that. Not much pressure on The Rangers International FC then [emoji2960]Sounds like their culture is being oppressed by these EUFA rules that would never have been allowed in their sometimes adopted country when it suits them

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Viva_Palmeiras
25-06-2024, 11:21 PM
General gist of it

I have ran past #Ibrox Stadium almost every day for the last 5 years or so (I always like paying my respects to The John Greig statue).

One thing I and other locals have noticed is the MASSIVE change in elevation on the run past the stadium. 3/5


When I started, the elevation gain was around 0m.This has gradually dropped into negative readings year on year and is now showing MINUS 16 METRES. A clear indication that there is indeed a huge subsidence problem, which could take millions of pounds and over a DECADE to fix. 4/5

I have years of Strava data to back this up and only really looked back at it, after the news broke.

This is a HUGE problem and the most sensible economic play is to wind the club up and relocate to a new site (e.g Shawfield or Cathkin Braes both holding soccer licenses).

/END

Ive just a hunch that could possibly be a wind up merchant 😁

it’s the BIG LETTERS that make it believable. Subsudence of sinking 15 metres in 10 years is probably worthy of Norris MacWhirter popping round to get it made official.

JimBHibees
26-06-2024, 06:15 AM
What’s wrong with Hampden?
It’s a kind of home for them anyway

Would seem a more reasonable suggestion

wookie70
26-06-2024, 10:59 AM
Hearing that The Rangers have 6 games at Murrayfield negotiated. Not sure if that includes the friendly. Very good source

GloryGlory
26-06-2024, 11:05 AM
Hearing that The Rangers have 6 games at Murrayfield negotiated. Not sure if that includes the friendly. Very good source

So will Hibs/Hearts be expected to change dates and times for games to accommodate them? Hope not!

Renfrew_Hibby
26-06-2024, 11:11 AM
So will Hibs/Hearts be expected to change dates and times for games to accommodate them? Hope not!

Of course. Rangers get the vast majority of their home league games played at 3pm on a Saturday.
Be prepared for a couple of 12noon Sunday games for us unfortunately.

Keith_M
26-06-2024, 12:15 PM
Of course. Rangers get the vast majority of their home league games played at 3pm on a Saturday.
Be prepared for a couple of 12noon Sunday games for us unfortunately.


I realise this is purely hypothetical ATM, but Hibs and Hearts should kick up a big stink if this affects them in any way.

wookie70
26-06-2024, 12:18 PM
It will be interesting to see what they do with away tickets and segregation. Will we still get 900 tickets. I bet they look at the fixtures with their situation in mind and avoid them playing Celtc at home early on. The whole Scottish game is only there to facilitate their needs

Lendo
26-06-2024, 12:53 PM
Just for the banter they should schedule Hibs, Hearts and Rangers all at “home” for a Saturday 3pm kickoff, with the festival on in the city, during a heatwave, with a council bin strike happening. It would be like the Hunger Games in town. Glorious.

overdrive
26-06-2024, 01:34 PM
Of course. Rangers get the vast majority of their home league games played at 3pm on a Saturday.
Be prepared for a couple of 12noon Sunday games for us unfortunately.

Will Rangers not be playing in Europe most weeks during that spell (unless they get pumped out), so they would be playing Sundays anyway.

Hibs07p
26-06-2024, 01:42 PM
NITK,
but sevco being sevco and their ability to manipulate everyman and their dug, if there has been substantial damage found at Greyskull leaving them unable to play there even with only 3 stands, might leave more questions than answers. I think any temporary agreement to play at Murrayfield could last for the whole season, not just for the month of August. I'm pretty sure any league games would have to allow every team in the league to play sevco at that location, before they would be allowed to return to greyskull. And unless there is agreement with UEFA to play only some games in Edinburgh, they might insist all games are played in Edinburgh as long as they are in europe. Being the cynic that I am, sevco not being clear about the issues at greyskull that won't allow them to play at greyskull for a month under only 3 stands, makes me think that they know this is going to take a lot longer to resolve. No doubt it will probably be expensive to resolve their issues, but could be they benefit financially, playing a full season at Murrayfield.

GGTTH
Scottish Cup Winners 2016

SHODAN
26-06-2024, 03:21 PM
I realise this is purely hypothetical ATM, but Hibs and Hearts should kick up a big stink if this affects them in any way.

We should point blank refuse any requests to accommodate 3pm Saturday kickoffs for Rangers. Not a single one.

GreenCastle
26-06-2024, 03:24 PM
The idea of closed doors was mentioned before.

You wonder how much of the work is affecting the pitch.

The pictures I saw earlier shows quite a lot of the pitch being used for cranes etc. but once the work is complete will they just relay the grass ?

Whatever happens here you just now the authorities will find a way to accommodate them and mess up Hibs and Hearts fans one way or another.

Johnny_Leith
26-06-2024, 04:12 PM
Reminds me of when hearts played at Murrayfield and their PPG dropped considerably. If the rangers have to play at a different venue, each team in the league should get to play them at that venue as they will undoubtedly be stronger at Ibrox and playing some teams at Ibrox and some at a different venue creates a sporting imbalance.

MWHIBBIES
26-06-2024, 05:13 PM
Reminds me of when hearts played at Murrayfield and their PPG dropped considerably. If the rangers have to play at a different venue, each team in the league should get to play them at that venue as they will undoubtedly be stronger at Ibrox and playing some teams at Ibrox and some at a different venue creates a sporting imbalance.

A sporting imbalance? I'm Scottish football? You're kidding me on.

percy veer
26-06-2024, 09:00 PM
be at least october before ibrox ready

PatHead
27-06-2024, 09:26 AM
Reminds me of when hearts played at Murrayfield and their PPG dropped considerably. If the rangers have to play at a different venue, each team in the league should get to play them at that venue as they will undoubtedly be stronger at Ibrox and playing some teams at Ibrox and some at a different venue creates a sporting imbalance.

Surely down to the tiny pitch they have at Tynecastle

greenginger
27-06-2024, 09:33 AM
A sporting imbalance? I'm Scottish football? You're kidding me on.

Could they not just give the Rangers the points for their home games without the bother of hosting a fixture somewhere.

Seems a straightforward way of getting the desired outcome. :greengrin

Eyrie
27-06-2024, 09:59 AM
Could they not just give the Rangers the points for their home games without the bother of hosting a fixture somewhere.

Seems a straightforward way of getting the desired outcome. :greengrin

Other way round surely?

If the Huns are unable to host a fixture then award their opponent a 3-0 win.

hibsforeurope
27-06-2024, 10:44 AM
The SRU are skint/trying to make up a 10.5M loss last year so they will let the Sevs use the stadium (hopefully for an inflated fee). the issue will be for how many games the deal will need to be for.

If the steel's not arriving until next month some time there's still a lot of work to do after that point.

Joe6-2
27-06-2024, 11:01 AM
Edinburgh council should point blank say NO, Hibs/Herts fans should kick up a stink about this, the powers that be continually bend over for these b******

greenginger
27-06-2024, 11:11 AM
The SRU are skint/trying to make up a 10.5M loss last year so they will let the Sevs use the stadium (hopefully for an inflated fee). the issue will be for how many games the deal will need to be for.

If the steel's not arriving until next month some time there's still a lot of work to do after that point.

why can’t they play at Ibrox behind closed doors ?

Carheenlea
27-06-2024, 11:19 AM
The SRU are skint/trying to make up a 10.5M loss last year so they will let the Sevs use the stadium (hopefully for an inflated fee). the issue will be for how many games the deal will need to be for.

If the steel's not arriving until next month some time there's still a lot of work to do after that point.

I wonder if it will be Rangers or the SRU who has to pay for the deep clean once they’re ready to return to Ibrox?

Moulin Yarns
27-06-2024, 11:21 AM
why can’t they play at Ibrox behind closed doors ?

I said that earlier but apparently there's equipment on the pitch, which can't be good for the condition of the pitch.

Carheenlea
27-06-2024, 11:22 AM
We should point blank refuse any requests to accommodate 3pm Saturday kickoffs for Rangers. Not a single one.

They’ll need to fit Rangers in around both ourselves and Hearts.

They’re lucky to be given the use of Murrayfield while their own place is out of action, so they should be grateful that fixtures can be fulfilled, but Hibs and Hearts can’t be inconvenienced to accommodate preferred KO times for them - it has to be the other way about.

Paul1642
27-06-2024, 11:23 AM
Edinburgh council should point blank say NO, Hibs/Herts fans should kick up a stink about this, the powers that be continually bend over for these b******

Agree. Why should we accommodate this. The police might also have an objection to this.

Carheenlea
27-06-2024, 11:28 AM
We should point blank refuse any requests to accommodate 3pm Saturday kickoffs for Rangers. Not a single one.

They’ll need to fit Rangers in around both ourselves and Hearts.

They’re lucky to be given the use of Murrayfield while their own place is out of action, so they should be grateful that fixtures can be fulfilled, but Hibs and Hearts can’t be inconvenienced to accommodate preferred KO times for them - it has to be the other way about.

overdrive
27-06-2024, 11:33 AM
24th August is going to be carnage on the trains and trams if they do play at Murrayfield. Rangers and Hibs at home at the same time. Tram and tram are my two normal modes of transport to the games. I'll be giving that a miss. Only issue is the bus is a nightmare on Saturdays due to Palestine protests and it seems no matter how early I leave to get to games by bus I always end up missing part (or most) of the first half.

Chipper1875
27-06-2024, 11:41 AM
They’ll need to fit Rangers in around both ourselves and Hearts.

They’re lucky to be given the use of Murrayfield while their own place is out of action, so they should be grateful that fixtures can be fulfilled, but Hibs and Hearts can’t be inconvenienced to accommodate preferred KO times for them - it has to be the other way about.

Spot on. I’d make them
Play at castle grey skull with one stand closed

hibsforeurope
27-06-2024, 11:45 AM
I wonder if it will be Rangers or the SRU who has to pay for the deep clean once they’re ready to return to Ibrox?

I'll certainly be making sure i do my own deep clean on my seat when i'm back at Murrayfield in November.

Smartie
27-06-2024, 12:51 PM
I take it those who are saying they’ll need to fit Rangers around Hibs and Hearts are new to Scottish football?

greenginger
27-06-2024, 01:12 PM
They’ll need to fit Rangers in around both ourselves and Hearts.

They’re lucky to be given the use of Murrayfield while their own place is out of action, so they should be grateful that fixtures can be fulfilled, but Hibs and Hearts can’t be inconvenienced to accommodate preferred KO times for them - it has to be the other way about.


Why has Celtic park not suggested ?

MWHIBBIES
27-06-2024, 01:15 PM
I take it those who are saying they’ll need to fit Rangers around Hibs and Hearts are new to Scottish football?

They will, though. Hibs and Hearts home matches aren't moving without the clubs having a say. Why can't Rangers play at partick or Airdrie? Nothing that says the ground needs to have similar capacity and there are no clashes there.

Paul1642
27-06-2024, 01:27 PM
They will, though. Hibs and Hearts home matches aren't moving without the clubs having a say. Why can't Rangers play at partick or Airdrie? Nothing that says the ground needs to have similar capacity and there are no clashes there.

They will be in a different position (of their own making) that they will have sold x amount of season tickets, a number much higher than Partick or Airdrie’s grounds can facilitate.

I’d imagine that due to capacity they are limited to Ibrox, Hampden, Celtic Park and Murrayfield.

The first two are unavailable and the 3rd is never going to happen.

I can’t see an outcome that isn’t Murrayfield unless they end up being forced into returning a % of certain season tickets on a bases of games missed.

MWHIBBIES
27-06-2024, 01:32 PM
They will be in a different position (of their own making) that they will have sold x amount of season tickets, a number much higher than Partick or Airdrie’s grounds can facilitate.

I’d imagine that due to capacity they are limited to Ibrox, Hampden, Celtic Park and Murrayfield.

The first two are unavailable and the 3rd is never going to happen.

I can’t see an outcome that isn’t Murrayfield unless they end up being forced into returning a % of certain season tickets on a bases of games missed.

They're limited to nothing. Do a ballot for your ST holders and the unlucky few thousand can go. Refund the rest. Rangers losing money because of Rangers failed construction project is no ones problem but Rangers.

If they get Murrayfield, they can play Friday nights and Monday nights. Our matches will only move if we agree.

McD
27-06-2024, 01:36 PM
They're limited to nothing. Do a ballot for your ST holders and the unlucky few thousand can go. Refund the rest. Rangers losing money because of Rangers failed construction project is no ones problem but Rangers.

If they get Murrayfield, they can play Friday nights and Monday nights. Our matches will only move if we agree.



I was just going to suggest, if they get Murrayfield, can they then play midweek evenings, or Monday/friday evenings when they have European matches?

Not In The Know
27-06-2024, 03:35 PM
Have I missed a reason why they dont just go to Hampden?

Hibeesforever
27-06-2024, 03:43 PM
I was just going to suggest, if they get Murrayfield, can they then play midweek evenings, or Monday/friday evenings when they have European matches?

Edinburgh Rugby will have a say as well...not easy to coordinate....

andrew70
27-06-2024, 03:48 PM
Have I missed a reason why they dont just go to Hampden?

Hampden not available until September because of pitch renovations after gigs.

silverhibee
27-06-2024, 04:27 PM
why can’t they play at Ibrox behind closed doors ?

There is a big crane on the pitch for the time being.

Bostonhibby
27-06-2024, 04:39 PM
There is a big crane on the pitch for the time being.Is it an orange one?

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Onceinawhile
27-06-2024, 05:07 PM
There is a big crane on the pitch for the time being.

Well call the sspca and build it a nest somewhere.

Since90+2
27-06-2024, 05:52 PM
As someone who lives about 5 minutes walk from Murrayfield can't say I'm too happy about the thought of them playing here 7 times in such quick succession.

Since90+2
27-06-2024, 05:53 PM
Edinburgh Rugby will have a say as well...not easy to coordinate....

Edinburgh Rugby is the SRU so although it will be difficult for fixtures it's not seperate bodies. Edinburgh Rugby play a lot of there games on Friday nights though.

Eyrie
27-06-2024, 06:49 PM
Why has Celtic park not suggested ?

It was suggested.


Surely there must be another stadium in Glasgow with 60k capacity that they could use with Ibrox and Hampden being unavailable?

Paul1642
27-06-2024, 07:53 PM
Why has Celtic park not suggested ?

Because Celtic would need to agree to that and it would be a PR disaster with their fans. Wouldn’t do their pitch any favours either with both teams playing European football.

DH1875
27-06-2024, 09:02 PM
Will they have European games in August? If they're played at Murryfield does that not mean all their European games will have to be played there?

Also, why can't they play at Partick Thistle?

gbhibby
27-06-2024, 09:06 PM
If they got rid of the trees at Cathkin Park they could play there.

overdrive
28-06-2024, 08:10 AM
Will they have European games in August? If they're played at Murryfield does that not mean all their European games will have to be played there?

Also, why can't they play at Partick Thistle?

Not for the rounds that they are playing in August, I don't think - you just need permission from UEFA at that stage according to a previous poster on the thread.

Bristolhibby
28-06-2024, 08:25 AM
Edinburgh Rugby will have a say as well...not easy to coordinate....

Do they not play at lesser Murrayfield or what ever it’s called?

J

Springbank
28-06-2024, 09:53 AM
Do they not play at lesser Murrayfield or what ever it’s called?

J

Would be absolute Peak Sevco if they signed a contract to book The Hive Murrayfield (capacity 7,800) instead of Scottish Gas Murrayfield (capacity 67,000) for these 7 games and then lost money trying to get out of it:greengrin

flash
28-06-2024, 10:51 AM
https://x.com/Zeshankenzo/status/1806345860696961108?t=vAsnVIaYUZRroE7JVTCAyw&s=19

Keith Wyness, ex Aberdeen chief executive, pulling no punches.

Fuzzywuzzy
28-06-2024, 11:00 AM
https://x.com/Zeshankenzo/status/1806345860696961108?t=vAsnVIaYUZRroE7JVTCAyw&s=19

Keith Wyness, ex Aberdeen chief executive, pulling no punches.

"Aye but" "we arra peeeeepul" "no surrender!!!!"

"They cry we used ***** render"

silverhibee
28-06-2024, 11:22 AM
Is it an orange one?

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silverhibee
28-06-2024, 11:23 AM
As someone who lives about 5 minutes walk from Murrayfield can't say I'm too happy about the thought of them playing here 7 times in such quick succession.

I’m hoping the police put a stop to this.

Lendo
28-06-2024, 11:33 AM
https://x.com/Zeshankenzo/status/1806345860696961108?t=vAsnVIaYUZRroE7JVTCAyw&s=19

Keith Wyness, ex Aberdeen chief executive, pulling no punches.

That’s tremendous stuff. Would be hilarious to see ibrox condemned and then have to move out of the city centre.

WeAreHibs
28-06-2024, 11:49 AM
I'm hoping SRU have some balls and wait on the guaranteed fallout from the Man U game before they make any decision to let Murrayfield to the inbred zombies.

marinello59
28-06-2024, 12:06 PM
I'm hoping SRU have some balls and wait on the guaranteed fallout from the Man U game before they make any decision to let Murrayfield to the inbred zombies.

The SRU will only see £ signs I’m afraid.

Since452
28-06-2024, 12:11 PM
Can't they play at Broadwood? Sure Rangers women team play there.

silverhibee
28-06-2024, 12:16 PM
#DroneAuditsScotland has done a video about the work going on at hunsville, on YouTube.

Don’t know how to post link. ��

Fuzzywuzzy
28-06-2024, 12:25 PM
https://youtu.be/r3OvKQQHY1I?si=PPxDwNLd_7Ln6B1M

There you go

GreenCastle
28-06-2024, 12:39 PM
Can't they play at Broadwood? Sure Rangers women team play there.

There are places they can play but they seem to be very selective as they want to make ££.

Closed doors wouldn’t do that.

I’m pretty certain they could move the crane and stuff on the grass to get the games on behind closed doors.

It does feel like this saga is going to go on longer than it’s being admitted.

overdrive
28-06-2024, 12:50 PM
Does anyone know if they're still doing the stadium tours there with all of this going on? I got someone a voucher for the Ibrox tour for Christmas and they've not used it yet.

scotiaf
28-06-2024, 03:18 PM
Does anyone know if they're still doing the stadium tours there with all of this going on? I got someone a voucher for the Ibrox tour for Christmas and they've not used it yet.

Think you’re on the wrong site mate.

Tambo
28-06-2024, 03:35 PM
Close it for good.

TelaStella
28-06-2024, 04:34 PM
Rangers season ticket holder I work with says the latest chat is potentially sharing Fir Park with Motherwell…


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hibee
28-06-2024, 04:54 PM
Why can’t they just play with 3 stands full like we did when we were getting work done, some fans will miss out but that’s the clubs fault.

CapitalGreen
28-06-2024, 05:03 PM
Why can’t they just play with 3 stands full like we did when we were getting work done, some fans will miss out but that’s the clubs fault.

There is a big crane on the pitch.

Keith_M
28-06-2024, 05:33 PM
OK, so I laughed at the subsidence stories, which were clearly just a wind-up, but...


...according to a couple of my season-ticket-holding, true blue Rangers supporting colleagues (yeah, yeah, I know) there apparently has been some subsidence detected in two of the stands. Might just be that it's quite minor, I don't know, but they were adamant about it.

Bostonhibby
28-06-2024, 05:39 PM
OK, so I laughed at the subsidence stories, which were clearly just a wind-up, but...


...according to a couple of my season-ticket-holding, true blue Rangers supporting colleagues (yeah, yeah, I know) there apparently has been some subsidence detected in two of the stands. Might just be that it's quite minor, I don't know, but they were adamant about it.[emoji23] probably trying to squeeze it through as a subsidence claim on their insurance

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greenginger
28-06-2024, 05:54 PM
There is a big crane on the pitch.


https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=bird%20crane&tbm=&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#vhid=W6lhgPkfzV0PaM&vssid=l


well chase it off :greengrin

hibee
28-06-2024, 05:57 PM
There is a big crane on the pitch.

Unless it’s broken down I’m sure it could be removed for kick off.

Bostonhibby
28-06-2024, 05:57 PM
There is a big crane on the pitch.Crane you say?

Are you sure it's not one of these? Club colours as well.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240628/a055653c8385797ce6334a68aa066ff9.jpg

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CapitalGreen
28-06-2024, 06:33 PM
Unless it’s broken down I’m sure it could be removed for kick off.

And the grass underneath immediately grow back?

hibee
28-06-2024, 06:40 PM
And the grass underneath immediately grow back?

I didn’t know they’d removed it, looks like it’s just been covered over like they do when there’s a concert.

04Sauzee
28-06-2024, 06:48 PM
I didn’t know they’d removed it, looks like it’s just been covered over like they do when there’s a concert.

Not sure if the grass has been removed or not but it won't be usable as a pitch if a big dirty crane has been sitting on it for weeks.

Lendo
28-06-2024, 08:07 PM
Think how much money they might have to hand back to sponsors and businesses that have paid to advertise inside of Ibrox for the season. Surely there’s no way they can be happy that they’re not getting their money’s worth.

ian cruise
28-06-2024, 08:14 PM
Think how much money they might have to hand back to sponsors and businesses that have paid to advertise inside of Ibrox for the season. Surely there’s no way they can be happy that they’re not getting their money’s worth.

Most will be doing it as fans of the club and wouldn't think about asking for their cash back I'd guess. Heart over head stuff.

gbhibby
28-06-2024, 08:27 PM
https://youtu.be/AE1ct5yEuVY?si=yCa0SzHfgNVYCK83

New song for The Rangers to walk out to


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Moulin Yarns
28-06-2024, 08:50 PM
There is a big crane on the pitch.

At the moment, but their first game at home is 10 August. Surely they will be further on that it will be away.

Glory Lurker
28-06-2024, 09:07 PM
The crane had to be orange, didn't it?

Colr
28-06-2024, 09:16 PM
There is a big crane on the pitch.

Dress it as Peter McCloy

southern hibby
29-06-2024, 05:09 AM
Is there any reason they couldn’t just play the first round of games away from home? Then second round of fixtures all at home and third as normal, then the split.
Granted this doesn’t help for Europe but personally I hope they get pumped and put out asap.

Saves them infesting Edinburgh unless they play us or the other lot.

Hibs4185
29-06-2024, 05:38 AM
They’ll just keep the crane on the pitch. When a rangers player trips over it, it’ll be a penalty

Jamesie
29-06-2024, 06:52 AM
Edinburgh Rugby will have a say as well...not easy to coordinate....

Edinburgh due to be at home in the URC on Sat 12 and Sat 19 October, both with 17:15 kick offs. Given they use the changing facilities etc at Murrayfield irrespective of playing in the Hive, that could be tricky.

Jamesie
29-06-2024, 06:53 AM
Is there any reason they couldn’t just play the first round of games away from home? Then second round of fixtures all at home and third as normal, then the split.
Granted this doesn’t help for Europe but personally I hope they get pumped and put out asap.

Saves them infesting Edinburgh unless they play us or the other lot.

That would in turn mean Celtic playing all of the first round at home, or at least all of their home games on Sundays, as Police Scotland would not allow both of them to play in Glasgow on the same day.

HibbyDave
29-06-2024, 07:32 AM
Hopefully they just forfeit all the first round of matches as 0-3.

One Day
29-06-2024, 07:51 AM
Close it for good.

Now wouldn't that be fun

southern hibby
29-06-2024, 08:41 AM
That would in turn mean Celtic playing all of the first round at home, or at least all of their home games on Sundays, as Police Scotland would not allow both of them to play in Glasgow on the same day.

Well that’s that idea flawed then

GGTTH

Aldo
29-06-2024, 08:52 AM
If they get to play at Murrayfield then they are the ones that should be told to accommodate the Edinburgh clubs however we all know how that’ll work.

They will moan about us being awkward and the media will go along with it.

MWHIBBIES
29-06-2024, 08:57 AM
If they get to play at Murrayfield then they are the ones that should be told to accommodate the Edinburgh clubs however we all know how that’ll work.

They will moan about us being awkward and the media will go along with it.

They can moan all they like. Hibs and hearts fixtures are announced. Huns will have to fit around us. Hibs and Hearts home games can't be moved without Hibs and Hearts agreeing.

They should be playing in Glasgow still. Patrick will do just fine.

Aldo
29-06-2024, 09:01 AM
They can moan all they like. Hibs and hearts fixtures are announced. Huns will have to fit around us. Hibs and Hearts home games can't be moved without Hibs and Hearts agreeing.

They should be playing in Glasgow still. Patrick will do just fine.

Totally agree.

We do what they are like though. Always the victim.

gorgie greens
29-06-2024, 09:02 AM
With the stink they caused when Dens was unplayable I hope they get hammered

Aldo
29-06-2024, 09:07 AM
With the stink they caused when Dens was unplayable I hope they get hammered

Of course they won’t.

I would ask why they didn’t order the materials earlier if they knew the work was getting carried pre season.

Bridge hibs
29-06-2024, 09:10 AM
Dress it as Peter McCloy

He was the Girvan lighthouse wasnt he ?

Or was it the Girvan crane ? 😁

Eyrie
29-06-2024, 09:57 AM
He was the Girvan lighthouse wasnt he ?

Or was it the Girvan crane ? 😁

I'm still annoyed we weren't girvan a penalty for that blatant foul on Colin Campbell.

Bostonhibby
29-06-2024, 10:06 AM
They can moan all they like. Hibs and hearts fixtures are announced. Huns will have to fit around us. Hibs and Hearts home games can't be moved without Hibs and Hearts agreeing.

They should be playing in Glasgow still. Patrick will do just fine.[emoji106]Right on the money but I'd be surprised if a way to accommodate them (do what they want) isn't sorted by the authorities.

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MWHIBBIES
29-06-2024, 10:07 AM
Of course they won’t.

I would ask why they didn’t order the materials earlier if they knew the work was getting carried pre season.

Rangers themselves don't order materials. Their main and sub contractors will.

Ultimately if the main contractor has ****ed it, its not really Rangers fault. If they are using them as a scapegoat for a possible subsidence issue, then they should be in trouble. And financially, they will be in real trouble.

Bostonhibby
29-06-2024, 10:07 AM
With the stink they caused when Dens was unplayable I hope they get hammeredVery good point, will be interesting to compare and contrast the 2 approaches.

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Aldo
29-06-2024, 10:13 AM
Rangers themselves don't order materials. Their main and sub contractors will.

Ultimately if the main contractor has ****ed it, its not really Rangers fault. If they are using them as a scapegoat for a possible subsidence issue, then they should be in trouble. And financially, they will be in real trouble.

Yeah I get that and it looks like the project manager has been sacked/fired or so they say.

Let’s hope it’s the later though as you’ve mentioned.

I do however wonder if they have been communicating with Doncaster and co regarding this or have kept it under wraps until it was reported or maybe leaked last week or so!

Regardless they should be made to stay in Glasgow and play there.

Bridge hibs
29-06-2024, 12:03 PM
I'm still annoyed we weren't girvan a penalty for that blatant foul on Colin Campbell.

Yeah I was right behind it too 🤬

.Sean.
29-06-2024, 12:50 PM
I think if it was Murrayfield they were going to play at it would’ve been announced already, hardly takes a couple weeks planning to work out where they can play if its straightforward. There’s clearly an issue getting a venue.

Good enough for the ***** especially after how vocal they were about Dens Park

Hibbyradge
29-06-2024, 01:01 PM
Yeah I was right behind it too 🤬

Me too.

Garymcl
29-06-2024, 01:39 PM
Never forget that incident certain goal chipped Mccloy ball bouncing toward empty goal right in front of us he clearly takes Campbell out raging ,back to buses Huns try pick a fight ,they got battered big time ,although a few buses had there windows put in

ancient hibee
29-06-2024, 02:02 PM
They can moan all they like. Hibs and hearts fixtures are announced. Huns will have to fit around us. Hibs and Hearts home games can't be moved without Hibs and Hearts agreeing.

They should be playing in Glasgow still. Patrick will do just fine.

Don’t think there will ever be an agreement between Rangers and anybody called Patrick.

MWHIBBIES
29-06-2024, 02:26 PM
Don’t think there will ever be an agreement between Rangers and anybody called Patrick.

:greengrin

greenginger
29-06-2024, 03:29 PM
Never forget that incident certain goal chipped Mccloy ball bouncing toward empty goal right in front of us he clearly takes Campbell out raging ,back to buses Huns try pick a fight ,they got battered big time ,although a few buses had there windows put in

A good few years back I was at a golf outing at Turnberry and I was told the starter was a certain MrPeter McCloy.

I went over for a chat before my tee off and talked about football and then hit him with “ and you stole the cup from Hibs 1979 “

After a couple of denials he smiled and said, yeah I suppose I did.

bod
29-06-2024, 06:15 PM
who are the teams that are supposed to be at ibrox in August ?

Ozyhibby
29-06-2024, 06:58 PM
I think if it was Murrayfield they were going to play at it would’ve been announced already, hardly takes a couple weeks planning to work out where they can play if its straightforward. There’s clearly an issue getting a venue.

Good enough for the ***** especially after how vocal they were about Dens Park

They are obviously having difficulty doing a deal and they still don’t know how long they need it for.


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Malthibby
29-06-2024, 07:35 PM
One of the best films ever!


:greengrin

Wasn't a classic but I knew Rab Buchanan, never broke through the way some of his peers did but a really nice guy.
Not a Hibby though, so...

Joe6-2
29-06-2024, 08:10 PM
Rangers themselves don't order materials. Their main and sub contractors will.

Ultimately if the main contractor has ****ed it, its not really Rangers fault. If they are using them as a scapegoat for a possible subsidence issue, then they should be in trouble. And financially, they will be in real trouble.

We can only hope so

Up-the-slope
01-07-2024, 10:03 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cqe6l181q6qo

Blimey - Scottish Rugby skint. Perhaps this means they will be more open to the Blue Nose Pound

JimBHibees
02-07-2024, 11:25 AM
He was the Girvan lighthouse wasnt he ?

Or was it the Girvan crane ? 😁

Girvan s****House:greengrin

04Sauzee
02-07-2024, 09:31 PM
Looks like they will be playing at Hampden.

JohnM1875
02-07-2024, 09:32 PM
Looks like they will be playing at Hampden.

Good. Keep them through the west

Carheenlea
02-07-2024, 09:38 PM
Maybe they couldn’t guarantee they’d have been out of Murrayfield in time for the Six Nations.

Murrayfield perhaps for a couple of games then Hampden for rest of season..

gbhibby
02-07-2024, 09:41 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cqe6l181q6qo

Blimey - Scottish Rugby skint. Perhaps this means they will be more open to the Blue Nose Pound
Have they not been skint for years?

SteveHFC
02-07-2024, 09:51 PM
Looks like they will be playing at Hampden.

Wonder if our game against them at Ibrox in September will be at Hampden instead.

SHODAN
02-07-2024, 09:53 PM
Looks like they will be playing at Hampden.

Good.

Smartie
02-07-2024, 10:30 PM
Have they not been skint for years?

I thought they’d been skint for decades?

Wheat Hound
02-07-2024, 10:40 PM
Our record Vs Rangers at Hampden is pretty decent 😁

degenerated
03-07-2024, 06:31 AM
Rangers themselves don't order materials. Their main and sub contractors will.

Ultimately if the main contractor has ****ed it, its not really Rangers fault. If they are using them as a scapegoat for a possible subsidence issue, then they should be in trouble. And financially, they will be in real trouble.

Depends how they have decided to approach this they may have decided to project manage this themselves and made an erse of the package procurement.

Knowing the Huns then had the issue been with main contractor ( either directly or indirectly) they would have been pointing the finger at them already whereas they appear to have pointed the finger at one of their own on this.

The only contractor I could see from the video was BHC, who are primarily a structural steel frame sub-contractor. That said they do full builds on wriggly tin agricultural sheds and some housing.

.Sean.
03-07-2024, 07:51 AM
Wonder if our game against them at Ibrox in September will be at Hampden instead.
Hope so. They’ve not beat us there since the 1970’s

Billy Whizz
03-07-2024, 11:28 AM
What what tiny corner of Hampden they’ll give us in September

At least they are paying Scottish football and not the SRU

Bostonhibby
03-07-2024, 11:32 AM
What what tiny corner of Hampden they’ll give us in September

At least they are paying Scottish football and not the SRUPaying? [emoji23][emoji23]

Probably already set up Sevco 2, Son of Sevco for the purposes of not paying.

Always assuming the football authorities actually get round to raising an invoice.

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GreenCastle
03-07-2024, 12:50 PM
You would think they need to announce sooner rather than later where exactly they will play their home games!

Just over 1 month till the season starts and surely they need to sort out ticketing and hospitality etc.

Since452
03-07-2024, 02:58 PM
I see the bumbling Hun Keith Jackson is blaming it all on their former CEO and accusing him of "betrayal" by accepting a lucrative job in the middle east. Pathetic. If it was Hibs or anyone else he'd be calling us a basket case etc.

Paul1642
03-07-2024, 03:10 PM
Hope so. They’ve not beat us there since the 1970’s

Considering our Hampden record that’s a pretty crazy stat.

HH81
03-07-2024, 03:42 PM
Would we only get the usual 800 at Hampden like we did at Ibrox or more?

Greenio
03-07-2024, 04:35 PM
Is there any kind of punishment from the league for this? Must be causing them a.ton more work.

If not, there should be!

MWHIBBIES
03-07-2024, 04:52 PM
Will they actually give an away allocation? Can Hampden be segregated like that?

marinello59
03-07-2024, 04:58 PM
Will they actually give an away allocation? Can Hampden be segregated like that?


They'd do the same as they do at Ibrox, some tarpaulins will be spread across a few rows of seats and a sprinkling of stewards will watch the objects being thrown by both sets of fans.

Carheenlea
03-07-2024, 09:10 PM
A big worry for me would be Hibs fan safety at Hampden.

Ibrox itself isn’t actually that bad all things considered. Yes, there is always the chance of the of the odd missile being thrown into the away end, but the complimentary secure car park facilities and short walk back to car park afterwards with heavy police presence helps to avoid much trouble. Even the walk to underground station is usually under police escort, and fans are kept apart for as long as possible.

How they manage this at Hampden with an allocation of say 800 is a bit more problematic. Would we get some of the car park maybe for exclusive travelling fans use? A small number of fans in amongst 40 odd thousand makes you a vulnerable target outside, particularly with the recent history between the two clubs.

Thinking about it, I’d say they’d have to let us park cars and buses in the car park outside and have police segregation pre and post match, unless they were to decide to offer up a considerably larger allocation than they currently do.

It actually wouldn’t surprise me if were to not to receive an allocation on “safety grounds”.

Since90+2
04-07-2024, 04:49 AM
A big worry for me would be Hibs fan safety at Hampden.

Ibrox itself isn’t actually that bad all things considered. Yes, there is always the chance of the of the odd missile being thrown into the away end, but the complimentary secure car park facilities and short walk back to car park afterwards with heavy police presence helps to avoid much trouble. Even the walk to underground station is usually under police escort, and fans are kept apart for as long as possible.

How they manage this at Hampden with an allocation of say 800 is a bit more problematic. Would we get some of the car park maybe for exclusive travelling fans use? A small number of fans in amongst 40 odd thousand makes you a vulnerable target outside, particularly with the recent history between the two clubs.

Thinking about it, I’d say they’d have to let us park cars and buses in the car park outside and have police segregation pre and post match, unless they were to decide to offer up a considerably larger allocation than they currently do.

It actually wouldn’t surprise me if were to not to receive an allocation on “safety grounds”.

It will be absolutely fine.

After the final in 2016 we had chat of Hibs fans not getting tickets again for Ibrox due to safety reasons, when 4000 of them came to ER it would be like a battle royal ect. Nothing of note has happened in the 8 years since the cup final so I don't see that changing now.

McGruber
04-07-2024, 06:15 AM
Wonder if it will be Rangers or Queens Park that get the 3pm Saturday slot 🤔

Keith_M
08-07-2024, 09:23 AM
Looks like the 'whole of August' estimate is an optimistic assessment, if this is anything to go by...


https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/james-bisgrove-dumping-rangers-stadium-33189144

GloryGlory
08-07-2024, 09:29 AM
Looks like the 'whole of August' estimate is an optimistic assessment, if this is anything to go by...


https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/james-bisgrove-dumping-rangers-stadium-33189144

All very well for Jackshun to lay the blame solely at the door of the ex CEO, but what was the board of directors doing all this time? They're supposed to oversee the executive management and challenge the reports they're getting. Looks like they were just turning up for the free booze and succulent lamb rather than exercising appropriate corporate governance.

Keith_M
08-07-2024, 09:32 AM
All very well for Jackshun to lay the blame solely at the door of the ex CEO, but what was the board of directors doing all this time? They're supposed to oversee the executive management and challenge the reports they're getting. Looks like they were just turning up for the free booze and succulent lamb rather than exercising appropriate corporate governance.


Yeah, I agree with the earlier post about it looking like they're passing the blame, trying to make it look like it's not really 'Rangers' fault.


All the same, it does now look a lot worse than 'just a few games'

Bostonhibby
08-07-2024, 11:29 AM
All very well for Jackshun to lay the blame solely at the door of the ex CEO, but what was the board of directors doing all this time? They're supposed to oversee the executive management and challenge the reports they're getting. Looks like they were just turning up for the free booze and succulent lamb rather than exercising appropriate corporate governance.It's like when they had to liquidate their own club to avoid insurmountable debts. A big (non protestant) boy done it and ran away.

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GreenCastle
08-07-2024, 11:32 AM
It’s pretty convenient that they play Celtic in 2025.

Wonder if there was a quiet word saying can we play first Derby away from home due to stadium issues.

Springbank
08-07-2024, 12:00 PM
One assumes Mr Bisgrove has access to defamation lawyers...

B.H.F.C
08-07-2024, 12:01 PM
It’s pretty convenient that they play Celtic in 2025.

Wonder if there was a quiet word saying can we play first Derby away from home due to stadium issues.

They were due to be away to Celtic first this year so no issue in that.

Joe6-2
08-07-2024, 02:49 PM
One assumes Mr Bisgrove has access to defamation lawyers...

I assume so and let’s hope he uses them

Since452
08-07-2024, 03:58 PM
Maybe their fans could have used all that perfectly good timber to fix Ibrox instead of making colossal structures to set fire to. Brain-dead idiots.

Ozyhibby
08-07-2024, 04:20 PM
One assumes Mr Bisgrove has access to defamation lawyers...

Look at the wording of the article.


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Keith_M
08-07-2024, 05:12 PM
Apologies, I posted the wrong link earlier. This is the one that's purely about the delay


https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/every-rangers-home-could-played-33190747

Springbank
08-07-2024, 05:37 PM
Look at the wording of the article.


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That was my point

I'm not sure you can say this problem was dropped from a height by a single individual, or that the accused individual couldn't wait to get out quickly enough, before acknowledging there is currently no legal basis for pinning that blame.

And that's just paragraph two...

Ozyhibby
08-07-2024, 05:51 PM
That was my point

I'm not sure you can say this problem was dropped from a height by a single individual, or that the accused individual couldn't wait to get out quickly enough, before acknowledging there is currently no legal basis for pinning that blame.

And that's just paragraph two...

If anything, that article tells me that it’s not that guys fault but they need to deflect blame. If it was his fault they would have published proof by now. Jackson just doing PR work for the Ibrox board.


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CentreLine
08-07-2024, 07:59 PM
Looks like the 'whole of August' estimate is an optimistic assessment, if this is anything to go by...


https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/james-bisgrove-dumping-rangers-stadium-33189144

This all sounds a lot like a dog whistle. Whatever happened to newsmen. Reporting the news rather than trying to create it?

Hibs4185
08-07-2024, 09:06 PM
Just read the article, how can that man parade himself as a professional journalist

gbhibby
09-07-2024, 01:10 AM
https://youtube.com/shorts/o9asQTqEOT0?si=7CTMC0bWShnkpkjE
How dare they.

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Pedantic_Hibee
09-07-2024, 03:21 AM
Just read the article, how can that man parade himself as a professional journalist

He’s an absolute joker.

He speaks of embarrassment…embarrassing is talking about off the radar wealth. Embarrassing is penning an article stating every Sevco player was assaulted and/or spat on and refusing to apologise for it. Embarrassing is putting your own name to that article above. Embarrassing is throwing away any credibility you could have had as a sports journalist by pandering to Sevco and making yourself a figure of ridicule to everyone else.

.Sean.
09-07-2024, 12:22 PM
https://youtube.com/shorts/o9asQTqEOT0?si=7CTMC0bWShnkpkjE
How dare they.

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Tramps

GreenNWhiteArmy
11-07-2024, 04:36 PM
Agreed a deal to use Hampden. Wonder if our game with them will be there too

04Sauzee
11-07-2024, 04:49 PM
Statement

PREV ARTICLE
RANGERS can confirm that it is in the final stages of negotiations with the Scottish FA to secure Hampden Park as its temporary home until the Ibrox works are complete.

Chairman John Bennett has issued the following statement: “First I’d like to apologise on behalf of the club for the uncertainty that this delayed project has caused to our season ticket holders, hospitality clients, partners and the wider support of this football club.

"The number of variables in this situation has made it extremely difficult to bring the one thing we all crave – certainty.

“Nevertheless, we are closing in on the most immediate solution - a suitable venue at which to fulfil our fixtures and house our support.

"While the ongoing delay means that the club is unable to fix a date for our return to Ibrox, we anticipate that this will become clearer upon delivery of the necessary materials to Glasgow.

“Rangers thanks the Scottish FA and the SPFL for their strong support in working to this solution.

“The club wholeheartedly appreciates the continued patience of our supporters while we work through this most trying of situations.

“I intend to give a fuller, personal update by the end of July.”

Billy Whizz
11-07-2024, 05:16 PM
Agreed a deal to use Hampden. Wonder if our game with them will be there too

Good chance as it’s in September
Would be nicer going to Hampden rather than than Ibrox, obviously depending on where they put us

Bostonhibby
11-07-2024, 05:26 PM
Statement

PREV ARTICLE
RANGERS can confirm that it is in the final stages of negotiations with the Scottish FA to secure Hampden Park as its temporary home until the Ibrox works are complete.

Chairman John Bennett has issued the following statement: “First I’d like to apologise on behalf of the club for the uncertainty that this delayed project has caused to our season ticket holders, hospitality clients, partners and the wider support of this football club.

"The number of variables in this situation has made it extremely difficult to bring the one thing we all crave – certainty.

“Nevertheless, we are closing in on the most immediate solution - a suitable venue at which to fulfil our fixtures and house our support.

"While the ongoing delay means that the club is unable to fix a date for our return to Ibrox, we anticipate that this will become clearer upon delivery of the necessary materials to Glasgow.

“Rangers thanks the Scottish FA and the SPFL for their strong support in working to this solution.

“The club wholeheartedly appreciates the continued patience of our supporters while we work through this most trying of situations.

“I intend to give a fuller, personal update by the end of July.”Wholehearted apology to huns in every form / mutation, sod everyone else now the authorities have bent over again

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B.H.F.C
11-07-2024, 05:29 PM
Good chance as it’s in September
Would be nicer going to Hampden rather than than Ibrox, obviously depending on where they put us

Would imagine the corner of the west stand where away fans are at Scotland games as they can segregate it up the back.

Blaster
11-07-2024, 05:29 PM
Wholehearted apology to huns in every form / mutation, sod everyone else now the authorities have bent over again

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What is the problem with it? Celtic used Hampden previously and Hearts used Murrayfield.

Since452
11-07-2024, 05:30 PM
At least we know they won't be beating us there.

Bostonhibby
11-07-2024, 05:32 PM
What is the problem with it? Celtic used Hampden previously and Hearts used Murrayfield.Everything hunnish is a problem for me, however this apology doesn't seem to extend to anyone else they might put out as a result of their project.

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Keith_M
11-07-2024, 05:35 PM
Good chance as it’s in September
Would be nicer going to Hampden rather than than Ibrox, obviously depending on where they put us


The away end at Ibrox isn't great, but security is tight at the entrance and exit, we're separated from the home fans reasonably well and the car park is straight across from the exit.

I can't see this being quite so easy at Hampden and have a funny feeling they'll use that as an excuse to have 'home' fans only.

Billy Whizz
11-07-2024, 06:00 PM
Would imagine the corner of the west stand where away fans are at Scotland games as they can segregate it up the back.

Good shout

HH81
11-07-2024, 06:45 PM
I thought they would stick away fans in upper tier out the way.