Kyle McClelland

[Torto7062]

Out on loan Again.....

Wtf was the point signing him if we're not gonna give him a chance.

If he's not good enough why we not selling him

[MWHIBBIES]

The answer to both questions is because he's not very good.

[DaveF]

Someone has to buy him before we can sell.

[Heisenberg]

This is the last year of his contract so he’ll be away at the end of the loan, hopefully Coleraine are paying most of his wage.

[BILLYHIBS]

Looked a steal from The Rangers initially calm and composed on the ball but had a nightmare at Falkirk getting caught underneath the ball for a goal IIRC

Ever since it’s been downhill for the boy

Probably found his level

[H18 SFR]

Apparently he was essentially given a ‘first team’ deal in terms of salary rather than ‘development’. It’s been a costly **** up.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Ian Gordon currently staring down at his shoes nervously, refusing to make eye contact with anyone.

“B-b-but he had a 3.5 star potential rating on Football Manager, I don’t understand”.

[Northernhibee]

A player who previously to us had appeared for Falkirk on loan six times.

Someone at the club thought “thats what we need”.

Scary.

[Heisenberg]

A player who previously to us had appeared for Falkirk on loan six times.

Someone at the club thought “thats what we need”.

Scary.

Ewan Henderson pretty much the same

[Northernhibee]

Ewan Henderson pretty much the same

Nohan Kenneh pretty much the same.

[Bridge hibs]

A player who previously to us had appeared for Falkirk on loan six times.

Someone at the club thought “thats what we need”.

Scary.A player who was also very highly rated at the rangers and was offered a new contract but wanted to join hibs as felt he would get more first team opportunities, a player courted by West Ham, Southampton, Sheffield United amongst a host of other English clubs

Some things work out, some things dont, good luck to the lad

[Northernhibee]

A player who was also very highly rated at the rangers and was offered a new contract but wanted to join hibs as felt he would get more first team opportunities, a player courted by West Ham, Southampton, Sheffield United amongst a host of other English clubs

Some things work out, some things dont, good luck to the lad
As of late though, almost nothing has worked out. We have an expensive, bloated, and very poor squad.

[Bridge hibs]

As of late though, almost nothing has worked out. We have an expensive, bloated, and very poor squad.Correct but signing a highly rated young centre half could have been one of the better things to happen in amongst the dross that were signed

[Forza Fred]

Out on loan Again.....

Wtf was the point signing him if we're not gonna give him a chance.

If he's not good enough why we not selling him

Erm, maybe cause nobody wants to buy him?

[Northernhibee]

Correct but signing a highly rated young centre half could have been one of the better things to happen in amongst the dross that were signed

In other words, we got caught up in the hype. Something IG has done all too often.

[Bridge hibs]

In other words, we got caught up in the hype. Something IG has done all too often.

I cant remember there being much hype around McLelland, hibs took an opportunity to sign a young centre half who had been watched by a few clubs, there was no fanfare if I recall correctly

[flash]

In other words, we got caught up in the hype. Something IG has done all too often.

Strange way of looking at it.

[Northernhibee]

Strange way of looking at it.

I mean it’s not, we signed all sorts of supposedly highly rated hyped up youngsters and almost every single one has been terrible. Fish being the exception I can think of.

Proper scouting of a decent quality will tell us if a player is worth it, and if it’s true that McLelland went onto a first team wage when he’d previously played six games for Falkirk then that’s scandalous. See also: Jair, Delferriere, and so many others

[Iain G]

I mean it’s not, we signed all sorts of supposedly highly rated hyped up youngsters and almost every single one has been terrible. Fish being the exception I can think of.

Proper scouting of a decent quality will tell us if a player is worth it, and if it’s true that McLelland went onto a first team wage when he’d previously played six games for Falkirk then that’s scandalous. See also: Jair, Delferriere, and so many others

We have always done this though, sometimes it works with a Josh Doig but most of the time it doesn't work out. Can't really go singling out the Gordon's for something we have always done

[Bridge hibs]

I mean it’s not, we signed all sorts of supposedly highly rated hyped up youngsters and almost every single one has been terrible. Fish being the exception I can think of.

Proper scouting of a decent quality will tell us if a player is worth it, and if it’s true that McLelland went onto a first team wage when he’d previously played six games for Falkirk then that’s scandalous. See also: Jair, Delferriere, and so many othersThe rangers wanted to keep him, its not about hype, its about identifying quality young players who have the potential to become first team players, he only played 6 games for Falkirk, so what ? He must have been doing something right to have hibs and a host of other clubs interested in signing him

[Iain G]

The rangers wanted to keep him, its not about hype, its about identifying quality young players who have the potential to become first team players, he only played 6 games for Falkirk, so what ? He must have been doing something right to have hibs and a host of other clubs interested in signing him

But but but...Ian Gordon!?! 😁

[Lago]

This going to end up being another beat up Ian Gordon thread isn't it

[superfurryhibby]

We have always done this though, sometimes it works with a Josh Doig but most of the time it doesn't work out. Can't really go singling out the Gordon's for something we have always done

Josh Doig was released by Hearts and signed for Hibs at 16-17. That's fine.

Ian Gordon signed a whole team of young players when the first team was desperately in need of more quality. We haven't always done that. It was predictable in it's outcome.

Boruc
Tait
McKay
Tavares
McClelland
Delferriere
Henderson
Melkersen
Kennah
Miller


Pretty poor return from that lot really.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

This going to end up being another beat up Ian Gordon thread isn't it

And truthfully, so it should. Far too little is made of the sheer arrogance and naivety he has shown (and been allowed to show) by thinking he knows best and overloading our payroll with sub-par footballers that he’s identified because he attended a couple of Cruyff seminars on talent identification. This is Hibs, not Dukla ****ing Pumpherston.

And he has the gall to just sit there at press conferences staring ahead blankly. He’s a major part of this current **** show.

[Smartie]

Correct but signing a highly rated young centre half could have been one of the better things to happen in amongst the dross that were signed

I love a punt on a youngster.

A punt on a youngster to complement numerous other punts on youngsters, none of whom have anything resembling a track record I'm less keen on.

In isolation this isn't a transfer to get all that worked up about but in the context of so many that were so similar - it is very much something to be concerned about, at least until we look like we've learned some lessons.

[J-C]

A player who was also very highly rated at the rangers and was offered a new contract but wanted to join hibs as felt he would get more first team opportunities, a player courted by West Ham, Southampton, Sheffield United amongst a host of other English clubs

Some things work out, some things dont, good luck to the lad

You have to wonder why after all you've said there, he's off to Coleraine to play out his final year of his contract. I have no insight into what he's like off field, or how good he is on it, he signed and played 3-4 early season games and then punted on loan.

[Bridge hibs]

You have to wonder why after all you've said there, he's off to Coleraine to play out his final year of his contract. I have no insight into what he's like off field, or how good he is on it, he signed and played 3-4 early season games and then punted on loan.Not sure mate but Im sure Stevie Keans words were aligned with the thoughts of other teams scouts/coaches who were keen to sign McLelland

Academy Director Steve Kean is hopeful that McClelland can eventually challenge for a place in the Easter Road first team.

He said: “We’re delighted we’ve managed to bring a player of Kyle’s quality to the club and into the development team.

“Supporters will see a cultured centre-back that’s excellent at breaking lines and making passes. He’s a real modern-day centre-half who is very comfortable stepping out with the ball and building attacks from the back.

[J-C]

Not sure mate but Im sure Stevie Keans words were aligned with the thoughts of other teams scouts/coaches who were keen to sign McLelland

Academy Director Steve Kean is hopeful that McClelland can eventually challenge for a place in the Easter Road first team.

He said: “We’re delighted we’ve managed to bring a player of Kyle’s quality to the club and into the development team.

“Supporters will see a cultured centre-back that’s excellent at breaking lines and making passes. He’s a real modern-day centre-half who is very comfortable stepping out with the ball and building attacks from the back.

What went wrong then?

[Hibeesforever]

I thought Mclleland was a player the first time I saw him but something certainly happened as his levels were way off last season...maybe come good later but being on loan and out the picture if not going to help his Hibs career...

[Bridge hibs]

What went wrong then?

You would have to ask hibs coaching team that question

[1875Sean]

Should have just released him, league 1 player at best

[blackpoolhibs]

What went wrong then?

Steve Kean talks sheite, Kyle McClelland is just another poor signing that we make lots of over the years.

[Since452]

Should have just released him, league 1 player at best

Yeah. We need players like that off the books.

[Pretty Boy]

How highly rated he was is largely irrelevant. If Hibs was the best offer he had then it suggests there weren't many top teams that serious about signing him. If he's dropped from Hibs to Coleraine then it tells you all you need to know. Barcelona might well have watched him but it's Hibs who have paid him a wage for 3 years so it's our judgement that is in question.

In isolation it's a punt that hasn't worked out. It's one of whole load of punts over the last 2-3 years that we massively over hyped, crowed about how many teams we beat to their signing and then they departed having costs us a lot for little to no return though.

Hibs recruitment is going to be habitually criticised until all these mistakes are moved on and there is clear evidence that it has improved. It's not as easy as just move on and give everyone a clean slate because as long as we have money tied up in these players it hampers our efforts to resolve a myriad of problems.

[Smartie]

Yeah. We need players like that off the books.

He’s going to want his Hibs wage for as long as possible - hence the loan.

I agree with your point in principle though.

[MWHIBBIES]

Steve Kean talks sheite, Kyle McClelland is just another poor signing that we make lots of over the years.

Agreed.

Bringing young players into a shambles also makes it much harder. Bring them into a settled, strong, coordinated side.

[Forza Fred]

You would have to ask hibs coaching team that question

I think Marvin Bartley could probably give an insight into that.

[RIP]

Kyle has been a victim (one of many) of losing our experienced Head of Recruitment and replacing him with a completely novice son of an owner.

We then supposedly recruited a Director of Football who didnt seem to achieve much even in a recruitment role and is leaving our squad in a worse place.

[Unseen work]

How highly rated he was is largely irrelevant. If Hibs was the best offer he had then it suggests there weren't many top teams that serious about signing him. If he's dropped from Hibs to Coleraine then it tells you all you need to know. Barcelona might well have watched him but it's Hibs who have paid him a wage for 3 years so it's our judgement that is in question.

In isolation it's a punt that hasn't worked out. It's one of whole load of punts over the last 2-3 years that we massively over hyped, crowed about how many teams we beat to their signing and then they departed having costs us a lot for little to no return though.

Hibs recruitment is going to be habitually criticised until all these mistakes are moved on and there is clear evidence that it has improved. It's not as easy as just move on and give everyone a clean slate because as long as we have money tied up in these players it hampers our efforts to resolve a myriad of problems.

Whilst we’ve had some poor signings, I think ours have been flagged up far more in the media than anyone else. Look at Celtic for example

Narwocki - 5 million - Hardly played
Lagerbielke - 3.4 million - hardly played
Holm - 3 million - hardly played
Yang - 2.5 million - Rotation player at best
Tilio - 1.75 million - Hardly played and then loaned out in January
Kwon- 1 million- Hardly played and then loaned to St Mirren in January
Iwata - 960k - Rotation player
Phillip’s - Rotation player

Even Kuhn ( 3.5 million) hasn’t been great at all and the best out of all them Palma (4.75 million) isn’t anywhere near Jota.

That is a huge sum of money in absolute garbage, you’d be lucky if one of them improved the team. Just this season too

All values in euros and from Transfermkt

[Bridge hibs]

I think Marvin Bartley could probably give an insight into that.He would probably say the lad done well and won player of the season award

[Chipper1875]

Should have just released him, league 1 player at best

How is that possible? He’s under contract. Hibs contact Kyles agent. We don’t want him. Ok , his contract is worth £50k, send us a cheque and he’ll leave.

We aren’t even getting all his wages covered.

[Rumble de Thump]

Kyle, like quite a few players written off as terrible signings, was just a young, inexperienced player with potential signed for our development team. It hasn't worked out for him here. It doesn't for most young players at any club. Good luck to him.

[Scotty Leither]

Kyle, like quite a few players written off as terrible signings, was just a young, inexperienced player with potential signed for our development team. It hasn't worked out for him here. It doesn't for most young players at any club. Good luck to him.

How many of that development team have broken through to the first team? It seems to have been a stop-off point for a whole host of unproven players signed by someone who has no idea of the demands and rigours of the SPL.

This review we’re all waiting on should recommend that it’s scrapped and those that instigated the idea should be nowhere near recruiting any more players.

[Northernhibee]

We have always done this though, sometimes it works with a Josh Doig but most of the time it doesn't work out. Can't really go singling out the Gordon's for something we have always done

I can absolutely single out the former head of recruitment for a period of time where we signed an absolute load of players who were miles short of the quality expected of this club and league. 100%.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I can absolutely single out the former head of recruitment for a period of time where we signed an absolute load of players who were miles short of the quality expected of this club and league. 100%.

Is he the former? Wouldn’t surprise me if he was still involved.

[Northernhibee]

Is he the former? Wouldn’t surprise me if he was still involved.

That is something I’d love to know.

[Scotty Leither]

That is something I’d love to know.

…and that’s one of the questions you will not get an answer to from the Board.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

…and that’s one of the questions you will not get an answer to from the Board.

Which absolutely disgusts me in all honesty. Their secrecy and evasiveness around the subject only serves to illustrate how embarrassed they are about it. I’m sure he’s a lovely guy but he’s ****ing around with Daddy’s toy when he is in no way qualified to do so, especially when it’s something so critical to our success.

[ChuckNor]

Is he the former? Wouldn’t surprise me if he was still involved.

He is still involved. I know this for a fact.

[ChuckNor]

McLelland was one of many players whose agents absolutely done a number on the club. They spotted the naivety and completely exploited it. Runar Hauge, Alan Delferriere, Jair Tavares and Momo Bojang were all examples of agents playing absolute blinders and taking advantage of the club. It was an open secret among agents that our recruitment team were not doing basic checks - indeed when we signed Harry McKirdy the club was contacted by some agents asking if they’d heard about his behaviour elsewhere. Of course, we found out only a matter of weeks later about his attitude.

[Stairway 2 7]

McLelland was one of many players whose agents absolutely done a number on the club. They spotted the naivety and completely exploited it. Runar Hauge, Alan Delferriere, Jair Tavares and Momo Bojang were all examples of agents playing absolute blinders and taking advantage of the club. It was an open secret among agents that our recruitment team were not doing basic checks - indeed when we signed Harry McKirdy the club was contacted by some agents asking if they’d heard about his behaviour elsewhere. Of course, we found out only a matter of weeks later about his attitude.

The money we will probably get for Youan and the money we got for Melkersen will cover the wages and outlay on all of the above. You take a chance sometimes it works. The same recruitment team got youan who gave us 10 goals and 10 assists last year and will make us millions. Ffw I've heard from a coach Mckirdys attitude has been tremendous he just hasn't worked on the pitch. The players love his ridiculous clothes ect and don't doubt his effort

[ChuckNor]

The money we will probably get for Youan and the money we got for Melkersen will cover the wages and outlay on all of the above. You take a chance sometimes it works. The same recruitment team got youan who gave us 10 goals and 10 assists last year and will make us millions. Ffw I've heard from a coach Mckirdys attitude has been tremendous he just hasn't worked on the pitch. The players love his ridiculous clothes ect and don't doubt his effort

Melkersen and others were and are substandard signings. We missed out on prize money as a result. We are also about to miss out on season ticket sales because of years of poor players being signed.

McKirdy’s attitude has not been appreciated by coaches. He has been disciplined multiple times by the club, more than what has been reported in public. He’s someone who I wanted to do well but came with an attitude that partially led to the move failing (plus Lee Johnson).

Ian Gordon has a lot to answer for. I think it was that Jambo journo at the guardian who highlighted how off it was that he was listed on the website as head of recruitment. He was right.

[Mrimbetween]

Always thought Mckirdy would be a class act, big let down

[Forza Fred]

Should have just released him, league 1 player at best

Would have cost us more to release him.

He still had a year on his contract.

This way it reduces what we have to pay him

[Forza Fred]

How many of that development team have broken through to the first team? It seems to have been a stop-off point for a whole host of unproven players signed by someone who has no idea of the demands and rigours of the SPL.

This review we’re all waiting on should recommend that it’s scrapped and those that instigated the idea should be nowhere near recruiting any more players.

The Development squad has l ready been scrapped.

[Chipper1875]

He is still involved. I know this for a fact.

Still trying to pass names to malky mckay , is what I’m hearing .

Players who aren’t good enough

[Northernhibee]

Still trying to pass names to malky mckay , is what I’m hearing .

Players who aren’t good enough

What an absolute state we’re in.

[Since452]

I can absolutely single out the former head of recruitment for a period of time where we signed an absolute load of players who were miles short of the quality expected of this club and league. 100%.

And we're lumbered with the likes of McClelland, McKirdy, Henderson, Kenneh for the foreseeable.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Still trying to pass names to malky mckay , is what I’m hearing .

Players who aren’t good enough

Hearing from whom?

[superfurryhibby]

Hearing from whom?

A Jambo who posted it on Hibs' Facebook page?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

A Jambo who posted it on Hibs' Facebook page?

Good enough for me. BURN THE LOT OF THEM!!!

[TrinityHFC]

Kyle has been a victim (one of many) of losing our experienced Head of Recruitment and replacing him with a completely novice son of an owner.

We then supposedly recruited a Director of Football who didnt seem to achieve much even in a recruitment role and is leaving our squad in a worse place.

All signings worked out before then right enough.

[ChuckNor]

Still trying to pass names to malky mckay , is what I’m hearing .

Players who aren’t good enough

It’s a bit more than just passing names on, but he certainly is doing that.

[Gmack7]

It’s a bit more than just passing names on, but he certainly is doing that.

Apologies are you talking about Ian Gordon?

[Northernhibee]

All signings worked out before then right enough.

Did anyone say that?

[.Sean.]

McLelland was one of many players whose agents absolutely done a number on the club. They spotted the naivety and completely exploited it. Runar Hauge, Alan Delferriere, Jair Tavares and Momo Bojang were all examples of agents playing absolute blinders and taking advantage of the club. It was an open secret among agents that our recruitment team were not doing basic checks - indeed when we signed Harry McKirdy the club was contacted by some agents asking if they’d heard about his behaviour elsewhere. Of course, we found out only a matter of weeks later about his attitude.
What kind of behaviour?

[degenerated]

Hearing from whom?

More tales of the barely credible if you ask me.

[we are hibs]

More tales of the barely credible if you ask me.[emoji23]

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[Aldo]

Melkersen and others were and are substandard signings. We missed out on prize money as a result. We are also about to miss out on season ticket sales because of years of poor players being signed.

McKirdy’s attitude has not been appreciated by coaches. He has been disciplined multiple times by the club, more than what has been reported in public. He’s someone who I wanted to do well but came with an attitude that partially led to the move failing (plus Lee Johnson).

Ian Gordon has a lot to answer for. I think it was that Jambo journo at the guardian who highlighted how off it was that he was listed on the website as head of recruitment. He was right.


Did we not double our money on Melkersen?

What’s this about McKirdy having an attitude problem and being disciplined multiple times by the club. I would suggest that if this was the case someone would have heard something?

When was McKirdy reported in public and what for?? I must have missed that in the media?

What is your source of this information??

[Chipper1875]

Did we not double our money on Melkersen?

What’s this about McKirdy having an attitude problem and being disciplined multiple times by the club. I would suggest that if this was the case someone would have heard something?

When was McKirdy reported in public and what for?? I must have missed that in the media?

What is your source of this information??

Chuck is well informed. Nobody is going to
Put on social media their sources.

We will never get the seven figures hibs published it’s all on the never never .

Mckirdy getting steaming a club golf day and poured into a car to stop further embarrassing himself and tge club. Failure to adhere to club standards on dress . Theses are all alleged incidents, which is poor

[Brightside]

Chuck is well informed. Nobody is going to
Put on social media their sources.

We will never get the seven figures hibs published it’s all on the never never .

Mckirdy getting steaming a club golf day and poured into a car to stop further embarrassing himself and tge club. Failure to adhere to club standards on dress . Theses are all alleged incidents, which is poor

Well informed? Mckirdy being pished at a golf day last year is hardly well informed - its was seen by dozens of people and was all over socials at the time. Not sure how thats Ian Gordons problem. Malky is now the man with final say on signings. Lets see how he gets on.

[KWJ]

I cant remember there being much hype around McLelland, hibs took an opportunity to sign a young centre half who had been watched by a few clubs, there was no fanfare if I recall correctly

Exactly. I don't mind taking punts on youth and giving them a chance over a few years to develop. If it doesn't work out, so be it. Slightly concerning if we're paying first team wages but I'd be surprised if that's the case.

[Aldo]

Chuck is well informed. Nobody is going to
Put on social media their sources.

We will never get the seven figures hibs published it’s all on the never never .

Mckirdy getting steaming a club golf day and poured into a car to stop further embarrassing himself and tge club. Failure to adhere to club standards on dress . Theses are all alleged incidents, which is poor

Is he. So everything he says is spot on and should not be challenged because you say he’s well informed. Ok!

If he was that bad then why did the papers /media not pick up on it. I believe there were more than just him yet you don’t mention that.

What’s his dress sense go to do with it. The guy dresses differently so what. If that’s the only thing folk can pick on him about then god we are really sad. I thought he was turning up late and reeking of drink.

All alleged of course. (Your words)

So you know all about the Melkersen transfer and by what you are saying we won’t get anywhere near what was published. Ok.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Chuck is well informed. Nobody is going to
Put on social media their sources.

We will never get the seven figures hibs published it’s all on the never never .

Mckirdy getting steaming a club golf day and poured into a car to stop further embarrassing himself and tge club. Failure to adhere to club standards on dress . Theses are all alleged incidents, which is poor

There is very, very little that comes out of Hibs right now yet your man is so well informed that he knows the most intricate of details?

[Chipper1875]

Well informed? Mckirdy being pished at a golf day last year is hardly well informed - its was seen by dozens of people and was all over socials at the time. Not sure how thats Ian Gordons problem. Malky is now the man with final say on signings. Lets see how he gets on.

Malky doesn’t have the final say on signings. There’s a committee and final
Say is Ian Gordon . Malky
Wants to spend one million on A fee and ten
Grand a week . It doesn’t get approved

[Gordy M]

Malky doesn’t have the final say on signings. There’s a committee and final
Say is Ian Gordon . Malky
Wants to spend one million on A fee and ten
Grand a week . It doesn’t get approved

Of course Ian Gordon does. Any owner has a final say on the money being spent!! Otherwise all clubs would just go wild? Are you saying Ian Gordon has the final say on who is good enough though? Thats a completely different thing.

[Ozyhibby]

I love a punt on a youngster.

A punt on a youngster to complement numerous other punts on youngsters, none of whom have anything resembling a track record I'm less keen on.

In isolation this isn't a transfer to get all that worked up about but in the context of so many that were so similar - it is very much something to be concerned about, at least until we look like we've learned some lessons.

A punt on a youngster should be a 6 month contract to have a look and then take it from there. Multi year deals should not be given to any youngster who hasn’t shown he can play with and against adults yet.


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[Irish_Steve]

This is the last year of his contract so he’ll be away at the end of the loan, hopefully Coleraine are paying most of his wage.

Coleraine are my local team back home in NI, there is no way they are paying the bulk of the wages, they’ve probably thrown in a couple of bags of Tayto crisps to sweeten the deal

[McD]

Chuck is well informed. Nobody is going to
Put on social media their sources.

We will never get the seven figures hibs published it’s all on the never never .

Mckirdy getting steaming a club golf day and poured into a car to stop further embarrassing himself and tge club. Failure to adhere to club standards on dress . Theses are all alleged incidents, which is poor



If he’s that well informed, why do you use the word allegedly?


Saying Chuck is well informed means heehaw without some form of backup to it. Otherwise I could say I’m well informed and it carries just as much weight

[ChuckNor]

I’m obviously not going to reveal my sources. I know that McKirdy was disciplined more than once within a very short time frame after coming in. I don’t know what the incidents were for. He is fairly popular in the dressing room but his attitude and behaviour has been an issue for coaching staff, particularly LJ. As I’ve said before, I’d love it if he came good for us. I just don’t see it, unfortunately.

The money we got for Melkersen was obviously an incredible result. However, he utterly failed for us on the pitch. He had to play in a run of fixtures that ultimately led to us finishing bottom six under Maloney. This included him missing a tap in that (memory is hazy so could be wrong) would’ve secured top six against Dundee United. Personally, I’d rather we signed players who achieved for us on the park, rather than the likes of Melkersen.

Just because I’m telling certain people in this thread things that they don’t like to hear doesn’t mean I’m “trolling” or “making things up”. I’m merely sharing some of the bits and pieces I hear.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I’m obviously not going to reveal my sources. I know that McKirdy was disciplined more than once within a very short time frame after coming in. I don’t know what the incidents were for. He is fairly popular in the dressing room but his attitude and behaviour has been an issue for coaching staff, particularly LJ. As I’ve said before, I’d love it if he came good for us. I just don’t see it, unfortunately.

The money we got for Melkersen was obviously an incredible result. However, he utterly failed for us on the pitch. He had to play in a run of fixtures that ultimately led to us finishing bottom six under Maloney. This included him missing a tap in that (memory is hazy so could be wrong) would’ve secured top six against Dundee United. Personally, I’d rather we signed players who achieved for us on the park, rather than the likes of Melkersen.

Just because I’m telling certain people in this thread things that they don’t like to hear doesn’t mean I’m “trolling” or “making things up”. I’m merely sharing some of the bits and pieces I hear.

So you don’t know for a fact Ian Gordon is still heading up recruitment and identifying and signing players?

[Aldo]

I’m obviously not going to reveal my sources. I know that McKirdy was disciplined more than once within a very short time frame after coming in. I don’t know what the incidents were for. He is fairly popular in the dressing room but his attitude and behaviour has been an issue for coaching staff, particularly LJ. As I’ve said before, I’d love it if he came good for us. I just don’t see it, unfortunately.

The money we got for Melkersen was obviously an incredible result. However, he utterly failed for us on the pitch. He had to play in a run of fixtures that ultimately led to us finishing bottom six under Maloney. This included him missing a tap in that (memory is hazy so could be wrong) would’ve secured top six against Dundee United. Personally, I’d rather we signed players who achieved for us on the park, rather than the likes of Melkersen.

Just because I’m telling certain people in this thread things that they don’t like to hear doesn’t mean I’m “trolling” or “making things up”. I’m merely sharing some of the bits and pieces I hear.

Well your chum clipper has been telling us all you are very well informed and McKirdy has been disciplined for breach of dress code and we won’t get anything like the seven figures we got for the failure that was Melkersen. His words btw. It’s not like he’s turning up late and reeking of drink.

You know he’s been disciplined but you don’t know what for??
Tell me a club that doesn’t discipline its players. It’s part and parcel of football. Players will regularly break the so called rules.

So you hold Melkersen solely responsible for our failure to make top 6 that season. I think it was more of an accumulation of us being **** and the manager.

[Brightside]

I’m obviously not going to reveal my sources. I know that McKirdy was disciplined more than once within a very short time frame after coming in. I don’t know what the incidents were for. He is fairly popular in the dressing room but his attitude and behaviour has been an issue for coaching staff, particularly LJ. As I’ve said before, I’d love it if he came good for us. I just don’t see it, unfortunately.

The money we got for Melkersen was obviously an incredible result. However, he utterly failed for us on the pitch. He had to play in a run of fixtures that ultimately led to us finishing bottom six under Maloney. This included him missing a tap in that (memory is hazy so could be wrong) would’ve secured top six against Dundee United. Personally, I’d rather we signed players who achieved for us on the park, rather than the likes of Melkersen.

Just because I’m telling certain people in this thread things that they don’t like to hear doesn’t mean I’m “trolling” or “making things up”. I’m merely sharing some of the bits and pieces I hear.

It was less of an issue for LJ. LJ made no effort to enforce anything with him. So your source is telling you porkies.

[ChuckNor]

It was less of an issue for LJ. LJ made no effort to enforce anything with him. So your source is telling you porkies.

Not true. LJ did have an issue with his attitude. Whether he tried to enforce things I don’t know, I just know McKirdy was disciplined multiple times. LJ even spoke about McKirdy’s attitude in the media. It’s not a big secret.

[ChuckNor]

Well your chum clipper has been telling us all you are very well informed and McKirdy has been disciplined for breach of dress code and we won’t get anything like the seven figures we got for the failure that was Melkersen. His words btw. It’s not like he’s turning up late and reeking of drink.

You know he’s been disciplined but you don’t know what for??
Tell me a club that doesn’t discipline its players. It’s part and parcel of football. Players will regularly break the so called rules.

So you hold Melkersen solely responsible for our failure to make top 6 that season. I think it was more of an accumulation of us being **** and the manager.

Are you okay? I’ve never said a thing to you before and you’re absolutely furious haha. I’ve never met Clipper before. Like I said, I share what I hear from a ridiculously good source. I don’t make things up because I’m not some sad act.

I think there were multiple reasons we failed to make top six that season. Recruitment, including of Melkersen, was a big one.

[ChuckNor]

So you don’t know for a fact Ian Gordon is still heading up recruitment and identifying and signing players?

I do know that he’s involved in recruitment still. I just don’t know what incidents exactly McKirdy was disciplined for. Again, only sharing what I hear. Is there a reason people get so worked up on this site by others sharing a bit of info they pick up?

[Chipper1875]

It was less of an issue for LJ. LJ made no effort to enforce anything with him. So your source is telling you porkies.

Perhaps you are telling porkies …

[blackpoolhibs]

Are you okay? I’ve never said a thing to you before and you’re absolutely furious haha. I’ve never met Clipper before. Like I said, I share what I hear from a ridiculously good source. I don’t make things up because I’m not some sad act.

I think there were multiple reasons we failed to make top six that season. Recruitment, including of Melkersen, was a big one.

There was also that superstar Muller who was on a very good wage who was plucked from the depths of the US of A, to slink back over the pond without a glimmer of ability shown at Easter Rd.

[jeffers]

I do know that he’s involved in recruitment still. I just don’t know what incidents exactly McKirdy was disciplined for. Again, only sharing what I hear. Is there a reason people get so worked up on this site by others sharing a bit of info they pick up?

You are not wrong with what you are posting.

[Chipper1875]

There was also that superstar Muller who was on a very good wage who was plucked from the depths of the US of A, to slink back over the pond without a glimmer of ability shown at Easter Rd.

Cmon , Ian Gordon was just unlucky. His eye for a quality player , is impeccable. You don’t get recruitment certificates for nothing …

We beat clubs from all over the world to sign him

[Aldo]

Are you okay? I’ve never said a thing to you before and you’re absolutely furious haha. I’ve never met Clipper before. Like I said, I share what I hear from a ridiculously good source. I don’t make things up because I’m not some sad act.

I think there were multiple reasons we failed to make top six that season. Recruitment, including of Melkersen, was a big one.

I’m fine thank you. What makes you think I’m furious. Just commenting on your posts.

I’m not doubting anyone’s ridiculously good source either. Clipper seems to think you’re well informed as per his post.

[blackpoolhibs]

Cmon , Ian Gordon was just unlucky. His eye for a quality player , is impeccable. You don’t get recruitment certificates for nothing …

We beat clubs from all over the world to sign him

He's a major part in why we are a shambles now, he's been playing football manager with us.

Badly.

[Gordy M]

Cmon , Ian Gordon was just unlucky. His eye for a quality player , is impeccable. You don’t get recruitment certificates for nothing …

We beat clubs from all over the world to sign him

I asked before, so il ask again, is Ian Gordon signing off on new signings, as in yep there is money there, go for it or no we dont have the budget.....or is MM going to him saying i want us to sign x player and IG is saying no....he isnt good enough. Huge difference.

[ChuckNor]

I’m fine thank you. What makes you think I’m furious. Just commenting on your posts.

I’m not doubting anyone’s ridiculously good source either. Clipper seems to think you’re well informed as per his post.

Maybe have a read over your post before you press send then because it came across to me as you were pretty worked up by what I had been posting. Like I said, I am only passing on what I hear and the source I have is a good one. I'm certainly not doing it to get people worked up. :aok:

[Aldo]

Maybe have a read over your post before you press send then because it came across to me as you were pretty worked up by what I had been posting. Like I said, I am only passing on what I hear and the source I have is a good one. I'm certainly not doing it to get people worked up. :aok:

Perfectly happy with what I posted but thanks

All about perception I suppose.

[basehibby]

Josh Doig was released by Hearts and signed for Hibs at 16-17. That's fine.

Ian Gordon signed a whole team of young players when the first team was desperately in need of more quality. We haven't always done that. It was predictable in it's outcome.

Boruc
Tait
McKay
Tavares
McClelland
Delferriere
Henderson
Melkersen
Kennah
Miller


Pretty poor return from that lot really.

I think a lot of the problem was the Development squad that never was - we tried to get one going picking and choosing fixtures and it all just seemed to fizzle out. Meanwhile we passed up the chance to put a colts side in to the lower divs. Would that have worked out? I don't know but might have given an opportunity for game time for the plethora of promising talent listed above rather than loaning them all out here there and everywhere where we'd have little control over their development and, I think in many cases, heads went down as they were so far out of the picture.
At the same time we clearly took the eye off the ball re the main objective - signing talent to improve the first team NOW.
I hope that the new broom sweeping through ER will address both these challenges more directly - improving the 1st team and providing a pathway there for youngsters once we have developed them correctly.

[GreenPJ]

A punt on a youngster should be a 6 month contract to have a look and then take it from there. Multi year deals should not be given to any youngster who hasn’t shown he can play with and against adults yet.


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How many opportunities would a youngster really get in a 6 month contract. We sign them, the team goes on a winning run (unbeaten in 7, 8 games) there is no way that youngster will get significant game time if the team is winning/unbeaten.

[GreenCastle]

Don’t forget Reuben McAllister - we spent quite a lot of ££ on him.

Any idea how he did at Kelty ?

[Highwayman]

Before he was shown the door,Nick Montgomery stated he wanted to offload the majority of players out on loan that season.Kyle Mclelland being one of them.
One of the rare occasions I agreed with Monty.
I would place Mclelland in the category of “Unfullfilled Potential”(this could be a thread on its own”)
Unfortunately Hibs have too many players of that ilk in recent seasons.

[MWHIBBIES]

Don’t forget Reuben McAllister - we spent quite a lot of ££ on him.

Any idea how he did at Kelty ?

He's 18. Long way for him to go yet. Think he was playing for Kelly at least.

[ChuckNor]

Don’t forget Reuben McAllister - we spent quite a lot of ££ on him.

Any idea how he did at Kelty ?

Plenty time for him yet.

[IberianHibernian]

I’m obviously not going to reveal my sources. I know that McKirdy was disciplined more than once within a very short time frame after coming in. I don’t know what the incidents were for. He is fairly popular in the dressing room but his attitude and behaviour has been an issue for coaching staff, particularly LJ. As I’ve said before, I’d love it if he came good for us. I just don’t see it, unfortunately.

The money we got for Melkersen was obviously an incredible result. However, he utterly failed for us on the pitch. He had to play in a run of fixtures that ultimately led to us finishing bottom six under Maloney. This included him missing a tap in that (memory is hazy so could be wrong) would’ve secured top six against Dundee United. Personally, I’d rather we signed players who achieved for us on the park, rather than the likes of Melkersen.

Just because I’m telling certain people in this thread things that they don’t like to hear doesn’t mean I’m “trolling” or “making things up”. I’m merely sharing some of the bits and pieces I hear.Won`t mention anything about McKirdy as I don`t know anything about possible disciplinary problems and if I did I certainly wouldn`t mention it here or anywhere else . As for Melkersen , I think he was an excellent signing and club deserves credit for making an effort to look for such signings . We didn`t make the top 6 in 2022 because we sold Boyle just as transfer window finished and then had a horrendous run of injuries , nothing to do with Melkersen , who was in his teens and had been signed for devt team . A few months later , fans here were praising Melkersen for his play in LC group matches . This time last year I saw him in pre season match in Spain against Bournemouth . The main difference between the teams was that Bournemouth were physically much stronger but Melkersen was the one Hibs player who stuck out as being a good player , as good as many of his opponents .

[1875Sean]

He's 18. Long way for him to go yet. Think he was playing for Kelly at least.

Only had 3 starts, 7 as sub, another loan deal at a club where he can play more regularly will do him good

[K-Zazu]

Won`t mention anything about McKirdy as I don`t know anything about possible disciplinary problems and if I did I certainly wouldn`t mention it here or anywhere else . As for Melkersen , I think he was an excellent signing and club deserves credit for making an effort to look for such signings . We didn`t make the top 6 in 2022 because we sold Boyle just as transfer window finished and then had a horrendous run of injuries , nothing to do with Melkersen , who was in his teens and had been signed for devt team . A few months later , fans here were praising Melkersen for his play in LC group matches . This time last year I saw him in pre season match in Spain against Bournemouth . The main difference between the teams was that Bournemouth were physically much stronger but Melkersen was the one Hibs player who stuck out as being a good player , as good as many of his opponents .

Melkersen wasn’t an excellent signing, he looked miles off it when I seen him play for us.