PDA

View Full Version : Shots from distance



theonlywayisup
16-06-2024, 09:42 AM
One thing that impressed me about the Germans was their ability to shoot from a distance. I don't know the stats but they had a few shots from outside or on the edge of the box. Watching Hibs and Scotland, I can't recall many shots by Scottish players, let alone goals from outside the box - Campbell being the exception at Hibs. Now, of course, we do shoot and score from outside the box, but I do think there seems to be less shots and goals than in previous generations.

Who from today's crop of Scottish players do you think has a good shot in them and is reliable in hitting or getting close to the target. McGinn being the obvious choice. What about in the Scottish Premiership, again which Scottish player hits the target a lot from distance.

Going back in time, who did you have most trust in. Obviously, Leigh Griffiths and Derek Riordan are the obvious choices for Hibs, but who else?

Unseen work
16-06-2024, 10:19 AM
Always thought David Turnbull was unbelievable when it came to shooting from distance

Crab apple
16-06-2024, 10:55 AM
One thing that impressed me about the Germans was their ability to shoot from a distance. I don't know the stats but they had a few shots from outside or on the edge of the box. Watching Hibs and Scotland, I can't recall many shots by Scottish players, let alone goals from outside the box - Campbell being the exception at Hibs. Now, of course, we do shoot and score from outside the box, but I do think there seems to be less shots and goals than in previous generations.

Who from today's crop of Scottish players do you think has a good shot in them and is reliable in hitting or getting close to the target. McGinn being the obvious choice. What about in the Scottish Premiership, again which Scottish player hits the target a lot from distance.

Going back in time, who did you have most trust in. Obviously, Leigh Griffiths and Derek Riordan are the obvious choices for Hibs, but who else?

Pat McGinlay was always good for a shot on goal. Mikey Stewart's wonder goal against the sheep but I don't recall that was a regular thing from him.

Carheenlea
16-06-2024, 11:23 AM
I’m sure I read somewhere, possibly on here, that our players had been discouraged from taking shots from distance as statistically the chances of scoring were so low and that working the ball into closer range had a higher chance of a goal.

It was quite obvious watching Hibs in recent seasons that opportunities to take a pop from distance were being dismissed in order to work the ball out wide for a cross in a rather predictable fashion.

In a stats-heavy modern game it’s probably correct to say that long range strikes have a low conversion rate, but I always felt that even if you didn’t score, there was always the chance of the keeper having to tip it over the bar or you saw a deflection for a corner or the shot was blocked and if you’re lucky the ball might just fall to a Hibs player.

Hopefully under Gray we will see players encouraged to shoot more on sight more regularly than the regimented passing patterns that have become a bit of a feature of our play that all clubs appear to have sussed when we we play them.

Unseen work
16-06-2024, 12:02 PM
I’m sure I read somewhere, possibly on here, that our players had been discouraged from taking shots from distance as statistically the chances of scoring were so low and that working the ball into closer range had a higher chance of a goal.

It was quite obvious watching Hibs in recent seasons that opportunities to take a pop from distance were being dismissed in order to work the ball out wide for a cross in a rather predictable fashion.

In a stats-heavy modern game it’s probably correct to say that long range strikes have a low conversion rate, but I always felt that even if you didn’t score, there was always the chance of the keeper having to tip it over the bar or you saw a deflection for a corner or the shot was blocked and if you’re lucky the ball might just fall to a Hibs player.

Hopefully under Gray we will see players encouraged to shoot more on sight more regularly than the regimented passing patterns that have become a bit of a feature of our play that all clubs appear to have sussed when we we play them.

Thought it was very obvious this season. I thought with Marcondes we’d see him working half a yard and having a shot from anywhere within 30 yards but it just never happened.

Even though the chances of scoring at slim I don’t think it can be underestimated the importance of having a pop at times. Whether it wins a corner, takes a deflection into your strikers path, gets the crowd going or just generates a bit of belief.

It also creates the bit of unpredictability for goalkeepers and the defenders as they’ll be more hesitant to give you space around the box

Glory Lurker
16-06-2024, 12:12 PM
Based on nothing but gut feeling, I'd think that playing into the box is no more likely to result in a shot on target than lamping it from 20 yards out, by the time you've dealt with close attention from the other side's defence.

Stephen Dobbie loved a blast. Some cracking hoofs by him, although more something he mastered post-Hibs.

Greensunshine
16-06-2024, 02:01 PM
Just watched Gakpo score from distance for the Dutch, ok it took a huge deflection but if you don’t shoot you don’t score!!

I remember Alan Orman scoring a screamer from outside the box back in the day! An equaliser at Ipox if memory serves me right.

Stevie Mallan could hit a baw!

Donegal Hibby
16-06-2024, 02:08 PM
Have we many players that have a decent shot from distance in our current squad ? .

KWJ
16-06-2024, 02:18 PM
The Germans were so composed in and around the box against us. In Scottish football we're far more likely to see someone just swing a leg at it.

Greensunshine
16-06-2024, 02:54 PM
The Germans were so composed in and around the box against us. In Scottish football we're far more likely to see someone just swing a leg at it.

Watched the Italians last night, they can ping balls around for fun.

xyz23jc
16-06-2024, 07:04 PM
One thing that impressed me about the Germans was their ability to shoot from a distance. I don't know the stats but they had a few shots from outside or on the edge of the box. Watching Hibs and Scotland, I can't recall many shots by Scottish players, let alone goals from outside the box - Campbell being the exception at Hibs. Now, of course, we do shoot and score from outside the box, but I do think there seems to be less shots and goals than in previous generations.

Who from today's crop of Scottish players do you think has a good shot in them and is reliable in hitting or getting close to the target. McGinn being the obvious choice. What about in the Scottish Premiership, again which Scottish player hits the target a lot from distance.

Going back in time, who did you have most trust in. Obviously, Leigh Griffiths and Derek Riordan are the obvious choices for Hibs, but who else?


The much maligned Stevie Mallan and of course Le God! :wink::duck:

danhibees1875
16-06-2024, 07:18 PM
I’m sure I read somewhere, possibly on here, that our players had been discouraged from taking shots from distance as statistically the chances of scoring were so low and that working the ball into closer range had a higher chance of a goal.

It was quite obvious watching Hibs in recent seasons that opportunities to take a pop from distance were being dismissed in order to work the ball out wide for a cross in a rather predictable fashion.

In a stats-heavy modern game it’s probably correct to say that long range strikes have a low conversion rate, but I always felt that even if you didn’t score, there was always the chance of the keeper having to tip it over the bar or you saw a deflection for a corner or the shot was blocked and if you’re lucky the ball might just fall to a Hibs player.

Hopefully under Gray we will see players encouraged to shoot more on sight more regularly than the regimented passing patterns that have become a bit of a feature of our play that all clubs appear to have sussed when we we play them.

The stats would likely hide what happens when an individual team gets predictable for doing the same thing. :agree:

Not knowing for sure how the stats are worked out then there's always the chance that a shot from range that gets saved/deflected and results in a second phase of play that leads to a goal gets lost too.