2024-25 season non-Hibs games thread

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Pickford is weird, he seems a bit billy whizz all action kinda goalkeeping style, always seems to be rushing everything

Tourette's is it not? 😮

[pollution]

Ha

[Pretty Boy]

Yes, yes, yes, yes

He must have a foot like a traction engine.

[hibsbollah]

Yes, yes, yes, yes

He must have a foot like a traction engine.

Eat my goal.

Some incredible goals in this tournament. Great games every day. Could this be the best euros ever?

[MWHIBBIES]

Cracker. Best thing to happen.

Do admire England choosing to start a man down (Foden), a brave strategy though.

[Iain G]

Yesssss!!! 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰

[flash]

England ain't winning this tournament.

[Iain G]

Tourette's is it not? 😮

He has taken the Joe Hart pumped up England role and multiplied it tenfold!

[marinello59]

England all over the place here.

[JohnM1875]

England ain't winning this tournament.

Might not even make it out the group

[hibsbollah]

Tourette's is it not? 😮

Youre thinking of Tim Howard.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

He has taken the Joe Hart pumped up England role and multiplied it tenfold!

He reminds me of myself, I’m also ****ing raging when I’m asked to do my job.

[ancient hibee]

Very, very unlikely a team goes out on 4 points. Never happened before. At least 1 team with 3 points has always got through. A win will be enough.
I think we’re reliant on groups B and F having no 4 point thirds.

[hibsbollah]

Might not even make it out the group

Steady, theyre still top!

[JohnM1875]

Steady, theyre still top!

Lose this and lose the next game. Papped oot

[Pretty Boy]

England ain't winning this tournament.

They'll have to be a lot better.

I know good teams can often start a big tournament slowly and gain momentum as they go, Argentina and France being recent examples, but this England team seem to have a very consistent problem. They get ahead then go into their shell. A poor Serbia team caused them problems because of it, today Denmark were all over the shop and England should have been looking to kill the game; instead they slow it right down and let their opponents come onto them. Better teams will really punish that.

[Iain G]

Come on Denmarkkkkkk!!! 😁

[The Modfather]

England looking like their usual flat track qualifying/group stage bullies until they meet a good side and go out.

[hibsbollah]

Foden keeps giving the ball away. Must have Danish rellies.

[ancient hibee]

Very, very unlikely a team goes out on 4 points. Never happened before. At least 1 team with 3 points has always got through. A win will be enough.
Hopefully groups B and F will produce no 4 points thirds.

[Iain G]

Foden keeps giving the ball away. Must have Danish rellies.

Phil Fødane? 😁

[NC1875]

Declan Rice moaning about anything, England all over the shop. Brilliant

[Iain G]

Declan Rice moaning about anything, England all over the shop. Brilliant

Is he playing? Did Ireland qualify? 😁

[hibsbollah]

Phil Fødane? 😁

:greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Micah Richards’ epaulettes are giving me the ick.

Idi Amin vibes.

[Onion]

Denmark have been excellent.

English commentators are all over the place - from being near world-beaters after they score through to same old rubbish England by half time. So arrogant and quick to turn on their own team.

[JohnM1875]

Denmark have been excellent.

English commentators are all over the place - from being near world-beaters after they score through to same old rubbish England by half time. So arrogant and quick to turn on their own team.

Just need to come out and be honest. Southgate is a ****ing honking manager.

[Glory Lurker]

Good lord, somebody tell Lineker and co that it's half time in a group stage game. It's like they've been knocked out. Calm doon.

[green day]

Good lord, somebody tell Lineker and co that it's half time in a group stage game. It's like they've been knocked out. Calm doon.

It's brilliant to watch😁

[Saint Hibee]

Just need to come out and be honest. Southgate is a ****ing honking manager.

With the quality of players they’ve got, they really should be doing a lot better. The way Southgate sets them up negates all of their strengths.

[hibee_girl]

Rio Ferdinand is raging :faf:

[hibsbollah]

Good lord, somebody tell Lineker and co that it's half time in a group stage game. It's like they've been knocked out. Calm doon.

‘England expects.’ Its just entitlement really.

[JohnM1875]

Rio Ferdinand is raging :faf:

Even gave it a ‘Mr Southgate’ haha! Embarrassing.

[MWHIBBIES]

Thomas Frank is excellent. If this was just him and a presenter, it would be 1000% better. Can't get a word in with these 2 fuds.

[The Modfather]

When do we hear from Steve Clarke at half time in the England game?

[Saint Hibee]

Thomas Frank is excellent. If this was just him and a presenter, it would be 1000% better. Can't get a word in with these 2 fuds.

He’s disqualified himself from any future punditry by virtue of actually knowing what he’s talking about.

[LunasBoots]

Good individual players but that doesn't make a team, alot of these players play in good teams with top players around them, totally different to English National football.

[Corstorphine Hibby]

No interview with Steve Clarke during the half time break ?🤔

[Iain G]

Rio Ferdinand is raging :faf:

He is a numpty

[Aldo]

For all his ability and quality Bellingham sat there demanding a foul like a petulant child.

[hibsbollah]

I dont think Southgate should be blamed for this performance at all. Its just players losing their individual battles again and again. They look depressed.

[Iain G]

For all his ability and quality Bellingham sat there demanding a foul like a petulant child.

Hey Jude
Sit there and cry
Take a dry pitch
And make it wetter

[Aldo]

Hey Jude
Sit there and cry
Take a dry pitch
And make it wetter

[emoji122]

[hibsbollah]

Gallagher on. I would have brought on Joe Newell.

[Jim44]

Mathematically, it would be better for us if England win. However, it is really entertaining to hear their previously bumptious pundits chewing their words and squirming now.:greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Bad tackle by Bellingham, no card no foul.

[pollution]

Shocker of a cross

[Dmas]

Bad tackle by Bellingham, no card no foul.

Waiting on him getting a yellow he’s not even competing for headers after that

[eastterrace]

Someone no tell shearer to shut the **** up.

[JohnM1875]

Hojbjerg having an excellent game. All over the pitch closing down, making tackles and making things happen.

[hibsbollah]

Denmark pressing them to death.

[stokesmessiah]

England look very ordinary here. If it is indeed “coming home” they are going to need to improve a lot. Denmark are reasonable but a better team will rag them

[J-C]

Listening to Shearer and the guys in the studio talk so much sense and almost like they're describing Hibs last 2 seasons. Kane coming too deep instead of on the shoulder of the defender(Vente for most of last season) and the team in general sitting far too deep, especially after scoring and all playing sideways and back passes. One other thing I noticed they said that nearly all the players except Kane play a high press game with their clubs but the team is very passive with almost zero high press, which is against their ethos at club level.

[hibsbollah]

Watkins ‘hammer of the hibs’ on and looking dangerous already

[J-C]

Watkins ‘hammer of the hibs’ on and looking dangerous already

Immediately injects some pace and energy to the front line.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

They'll sneak a winner and be world beaters again

[EdinMike]

Shearer for the whole game has sounded like he’s on the verge of greetin’ !

[hibsbollah]

Nope, even if they sneak a winner, it's clear to anyone with eyes that they are way behind Spain France and Germany, and quite a few others judging by what we've seen week one. They're not winning anything.

[we are hibs]

Had to cross the ball earlier there ffs

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[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Had to cross the ball earlier there ffs

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Terrible decision making

[stokesmessiah]

Come on Denmark 🇩🇰

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

That wasn't far away

Hint of booing there?

[Iain G]

Feel like Denmark are one of those teams that can only score one goal a game...

[SaulGoodman]

Can someone check on Alan Shearer?

[Jim44]

As somebody said earlier, the English commentators and pundits are quick to turn on their work beaters. It’s all very entertaining but a Denmark result doesn’t really suit us.

[hibsbollah]

Lucky lucky England. They deserved nothing from that game.

[Donegal Hibby]

FFS , is this referee English?

[hibsbollah]

Now for the main event, some proper teams.

[Hiber-nation]

Vast majority of the Premier League players in this tournament look out on their feet.

[Iain G]

This England team are very ordinary. Maybe Southgate should have stuck with his old favourites after all 😁

[Donegal Hibby]

Will be interesting to see what snidey remarks Lineker will make now ?

[Rumble de Thump]

So far, England's best players have been the ref and VAR who didn't award Serbia the penalty for Trippier's foul in the box in their first game. Otherwise, they'd be going into their final group game needing a win to ensure progressing to the knock out stage. Watching England players throw themselves to the ground for 90+ minutes doesn't make for an entertaining game.

[hibsbollah]

We're top of the group, let's keep going like that. Says Kyle Walker. Four times.

Media training from Rachel Reeves.

[Mikey_1875]

Kyle Walker talking some sense. The pundits have lost the plot.

[Donegal Hibby]

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Slovenia beat them 😂

[Onion]

Denmark pressing them to death.

:agree: Very impressive. Matched the energy of Scotland last night, but also calm in possession, good passing and movement. All the hand-wringing analysis will be about how poor England were and little praise for the way Denmark went about shaking them up. Has the sky fallen in yet ?

[hibsbollah]

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Slovenia beat them 😂

Slovenia were excellent today and were very unlucky not to get three points. They have a top, big tall skilful striker #11 who will cause England trouble.

[Onion]

This England team are very ordinary. Maybe Southgate should have stuck with his old favourites after all 😁

No they're not. Potentially, they're capable of beating any team in the world. They destroyed Scotland at a canter and will still go far in this tournament. Great players, questionable management.

[Iain G]

No they're not. Potentially, they're capable of beating any team in the world. They destroyed Scotland at a canter and will still go far in this tournament. Great players, questionable management.

Have you watched their two games? Were lucky to take full points in the first game and lucky to get one point today. They won't get far in this competition.

Couple of very good players and a bunch of standard ones hyped well beyond their ability by the English media.

[hibsbollah]

Why can't the three idiots listen to Thomas Frank? He actually knows modern football. Talked over him, so ignorant.

[Pretty Boy]

Can you buy Southgate's magic waistcoat and Warburton's magic hat as a job lot from the charity shop as they are not in full working order?

Terrible mentality from England in both games. Look the better side, get themselves ahead then get instructed to drop deep and basically scare themselves.

[Pretty Boy]

The punditry is hilarious btw.

Lineker, Ferdinand and Richards are like 3 drunk fans ranting in the boozer just lashing out at everyone and anyone. No rational analysis at all.

It's less emotive on a match day thread on here.

[Bobby's Cinema]

We're top of the group, let's keep going like that. Says Kyle Walker. Four times.

Media training from Rachel Reeves.
Thought he was right to be bullish, usual media pundit hysteria.

Shearer is meant to be a sensible guy he was ridiculous at the end there.

[essexhibee]

They are still going through. Pundits need to chill out. Very funny.

[Since90+2]

Thought he was right to be bullish, usual media pundit hysteria.

Shearer is meant to be a sensible guy he was ridiculous at the end there.

Shearer for all his Premiership goals, and he was amazing at that level admittedly, never really done it at international level when it mattered or the Champions League. That is of course partly down to his decision to sign with Newcastle.

He's also a fair bit behind Kane in terms of goals scored per game at international level.

Very good player but the way he goes on you'd think he was one the best to ever play the game.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Wait till they come up against a good team 😮😆🙄😆

[Aldo]

Bloody hell that boy Williams for Spain is rapid.

[Donegal Hibby]

Spain should be ahead , their much more direct then other Spanish teams I've seen .

[green day]

Bloody hell that boy Williams for Spain is rapid.

No sure he could hack it in the SPFL mind you.

[Aldo]

No sure he could hack it in the SPFL mind you.

[emoji1787][emoji1787]

[green day]

These teams are both on a different footballing planet to England.

[Paul1642]

“England held to 1-1 draw by Denmark” is the BBC take on it. I’d say that Denmark were the much better and it was Denmark who were held to a draw.

At the start of the tournament I was worried that England had a really good chance of winning it. I’m now pretty confident that they won’t,

There are 4 or 5 teams bette than England in Germany and they won’t all be caught out.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Cracking shot and save

[04Sauzee]

Fabian Ruiz has been outstanding, in saying that Spain have looked decent all over the park.

[pollution]

Waffling commentary. Drink taken perhaps..

[Saint Hibee]

Shearer is admittedly a terrible pundit, but one of the best, most aggressive old-fashioned number nine’s I’ve ever seen play.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Spain should be ahead at the break.

[EdinMike]

It’s been a cracking game but as you would expect with Spain and Italy they love rolling around on the grass, so stop start

[Since90+2]

Shearer is admittedly a terrible pundit, but one of the best, most aggressive old-fashioned number nine’s I’ve ever seen play.

He was but his goals per game is less than Kane at both domestic and international level.

Kane has also went abroad and scored 44 goals in his first season for Bayern.

Shearer was a good player without a doubt but I get the impression he thinks he was better than he actually was.

[babahibs]

Shearer for all his Premiership goals, and he was amazing at that level admittedly, never really done it at international level when it mattered or the Champions League. That is of course partly down to his decision to sign with Newcastle.

He's also a fair bit behind Kane in terms of goals scored per game at international level.

Very good player but the way he goes on you'd think he was one the best to ever play the game.

Shearer was definitely one of the best centre forwards.

[babahibs]

Spain should be 2 or 3 up here, they look very good.

[Donegal Hibby]

Spain should be 2 or 3 up here, they look very good.

Been the most impressive team so far imo . Btw your spot on about Shearer :aok:

[easty]

He was but his goals per game is less than Kane at both domestic and international level.

Kane has also went abroad and scored 44 goals in his first season for Bayern.

Shearer was a good player without a doubt but I get the impression he thinks he was better than he actually was.

He’s the top goalscorer of all time in the EPL.

Alan Shearer was world class.

[He's here!]

He’s the top goalscorer of all time in the EPL.

Alan Shearer was world class.

Not been watching the games but well below par as it sounds England were I heard on the radio report that Kane's now scored 64 goals in 92 England appearances. That's truly phenomenal.

Shearer was a great striker no question tho.

[hibsbollah]

Yeah Spain are tidy but a bit of shooting practice wouldnt go amiss.

[easty]

Terrible from the defender

Edit - Keeper got a touch actually so not much he could’ve done there

[marinello59]

I’m loving this game . Spain doing everything but score them going ahead curtesy of an Italian own goal.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

https://x.com/MyMarshal10/status/1800711244275683730?t=KpOljPheZQe0rh0AM5R26A&s=19

You have to wonder how much the pay off was....

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Yeah Spain are tidy but a bit of shooting practice wouldnt go amiss.

They're getting plenty of that at the moment. Well on top since the break

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Is spalleti wearing a jacket or a cardigan? There's no vents on it

[Since90+2]

He’s the top goalscorer of all time in the EPL.

Alan Shearer was world class.

He's all time top goalscorer due to his number of games he played. The English league was also not anywhere near the standard it is now when he played.

IMO he'd not even make the top 5 forward to have played in the EPL.

Saying that I agree he was probably close to world class at his peak.

He never done anything of note on the European or international stage though and that has to be taken into account.

[hibsbollah]

Incredible to me that this 16 year old has so much football intelligence to play in this obviously complex Spanish system. Hes basically a wide right midfielder but expected to cut inside to create a numerical advantage?

What a strike, this Williams is no Alan O Brien.

[babahibs]

Incredible to me that this 16 year old has so much football intelligence to play in this obviously complex Spanish system. Hes basically a wide right midfielder but expected to cut inside to create a numerical advantage?

What a strike, this Williams is no Alan O Brien.

Yamal?
The next superstar, unbelievable for a 16 year old.

[Saint Hibee]

Neco Williams is probably the best ever Welshman to play left wing for Spain.

[hibsbollah]

Yamal?
The next superstar, unbelievable for a 16 year old.

Yeah. Never watched him play before, so impressive.

[Saint Hibee]

Fat Sally’s right about the increase in the number of substitutions benefiting the bigger, richer teams.

[hibsbollah]

Carvajal is a great defender but a cheating cant.

[Hiber-nation]

Loved watching Spain tonight, I put a few bob on them before the tournament and I'm quite confident.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Loved watching Spain tonight, I put a few bob on them before the tournament and I'm quite confident.
They looked excellent tonight. If they were more clinical it could have got ugly for the Italians

[Smartie]

Spain have certainly been the most impressive so far, 2 excellent results so far.

Means nothing though - and there are some good sides who haven’t really got fully into their stride yet, England amongst them - they’ll be dangerous.

This has been a superb tournament, I’m thoroughly enjoying it. I watch little elite football these days so there are players I haven’t even heard of. It’s freshened the tournament up for me, instead of being a bit jaded with football it’s like the 80s when the only time I ever saw these players is at a big tournament.

So much football to like up to now, long may it continue.

[Exuberance1875]

Loved watching Spain tonight, I put a few bob on them before the tournament and I'm quite confident.

They look frightening with the ball and they win it back so quickly when they lose it. So good to watch

[supermcginn]

He's all time top goalscorer due to his number of games he played. The English league was also not anywhere near the standard it is now when he played.

IMO he'd not even make the top 5 forward to have played in the EPL.

Saying that I agree he was probably close to world class at his peak.

He never done anything of note on the European or international stage though and that has to be taken into account.

Not in the top 5 forwards to have played in the EPL
, that is the most laughable thing I've ever read.

Kane couldn't lace his boots.

[Donegal Hibby]

Spain have certainly been the most impressive so far, 2 excellent results so far.

Means nothing though - and there are some good sides who haven’t really got fully into their stride yet, England amongst them - they’ll be dangerous.

This has been a superb tournament, I’m thoroughly enjoying it. I watch little elite football these days so there are players I haven’t even heard of. It’s freshened the tournament up for me, instead of being a bit jaded with football it’s like the 80s when the only time I ever saw these players is at a big tournament.

So much football to like up to now, long may it continue.

Are Spain maybe lacking a clinical edge going by that tonight though ?

[DH1875]

Not in the top 5 forwards to have played in the EPL
, that is the most laughable thing I've ever read.

Kane couldn't lace his boots.

I agree that Kane couldn't lace his boots and also agree he was world class.
If you look at strikers across the board then I'd also say he's not in the top 5 to have played in the EPL.

[DH1875]

Are Spain maybe lacking a clinical edge going by that tonight though ?

Been missing one for years, that's why they've struggled (by their standards).

[JohnM1875]

Not in the top 5 forwards to have played in the EPL
, that is the most laughable thing I've ever read.

Kane couldn't lace his boots.


I agree that Kane couldn't lace his boots and also agree he was world class.
If you look at strikers across the board then I'd also say he's not in the top 5 to have played in the EPL.

Kane is better than Shearer was, both are/were world class. They've both scored an almost identical amount of goals and Kane is only 30.

If we're talking about ability as a footballer in general and not just as a striker then Kane is quite a bit better.

[hibsbollah]

Not in the top 5 forwards to have played in the EPL
, that is the most laughable thing I've ever read.

Kane couldn't lace his boots.

Klinsman Henri Bergkamp RVN Ageuro.

But of course football existed before 1992 as well :greengrin Lots of better strikers than Shearer, id imagine he’s floating about between 5th and 10th. Hes only just crept into the top 3 Newcastle strikers :greengrin

[HibeeBigFly]

No they're not. Potentially, they're capable of beating any team in the world. They destroyed Scotland at a canter and will still go far in this tournament. Great players, questionable management.

I think it’s somewhere in the middle, not as great as folk make out players and not quite as bad a manager. Spain, Germany and France simply have better also. If England get a path avoids them they could maybe get to the semi’s.

[Donegal Hibby]

Kane is better than Shearer was, both are/were world class. They've both scored an almost identical amount of goals and Kane is only 30.

If we're talking about ability as a footballer in general and not just as a striker then Kane is quite a bit better.

There's no denying Kane is a world class striker though imo Shearer was a better all round Striker . Then again I am biased on this matter too 😉

[Pagan Hibernia]

The fantastic summer of football continues tonight with the start of the Copa America.

Argentina are obvious favourites, Brazil should be there or thereabouts despite being a bit of mess by their standards, Uruguay have an outside chance, and my dark horses are Colombia - unbeaten in 23 games, a run which includes wins against Spain, Germany and Brazil.

[ekhibee]

I thought Spain were quite good today and thoroughly deserved to win, but that has to be one of the worst Italian teams I've seen. Williams wasn't nearly as effective in the previous game even though Spain won 3-0 in that one. But Italy were woeful, and not just because Spain were good either. What about that free kick they had well inside the Spanish half and they didn't seem to know what they were doing, it was as if they hadn't even played together, and ended up passing it back to the goalie, who was the only decent player out of the lot of them. Quite hard to say how good Spain are at the moment but they've certainly not done anything wrong so far, and have already qualified for the next round, so we'll see how they get on there. Remember they put 7 goals past somebody in the last WC (might have been Costa Rica) and still went out in the next round. And Rodri can get to **** after his comments about Scotland but apart from that he's a great player.

[easty]

Not in the top 5 forwards to have played in the EPL
, that is the most laughable thing I've ever read.

Kane couldn't lace his boots.

Yep.

Only Haaland has scored more league goals in a season

No other player has scored 30+ in 3 different seasons. Shearer did it 3 years on the bounce.

[cabbageandribs1875]

(1) Archie Rhind-Tutt on X: "Danes singing: “You’re just a **** part of Scotland.” Brutal. https://t.co/aKhZMrp1D5" / X (https://x.com/archiert1/status/1803796997628993688) lol

[DH1875]

Klinsman Henri Bergkamp RVN Ageuro.

But of course football existed before 1992 as well :greengrin Lots of better strikers than Shearer, id imagine he’s floating about between 5th and 10th. Hes only just crept into the top 3 Newcastle strikers :greengrin


Cantona?
Drogba?
Rooney at his peak?

[hibsbollah]

Cantona?
Drogba?
Rooney at his peak?

Yes, Drogba is of course a great, obvious shout. I also have a memory of a lot of Shearersgoals coming from penalties, no idea of stats and if this is borne out.

[heretoday]

Italy had their chances and the goal was a bounce off a knee. They're not finished. Not by a long chalk.

[K-Zazu]

Imagine taking Wharton, Mainoo, Gallagher and Palmer to the Euros then playing TAA in midfield who doesn’t even play there for his club, I just can’t get get my head around that one. Southgate just strikes me as a very average manager who should be doing more with that set of players.

[Donegal Hibby]

Yes, Drogba is of course a great, obvious shout. I also have a memory of a lot of Shearersgoals coming from penalties, no idea of stats and if this is borne out.

I think there was around about 50 penalties Shearer scored in the premier though the reason for that was probably because he had a powerful shot that had accuracy like some of these ....

https://youtu.be/RmN8oMJ8Y5A?si=wWx2V3-jnp4cOHDe

:not worth

[Since90+2]

Not in the top 5 forwards to have played in the EPL
, that is the most laughable thing I've ever read.

Kane couldn't lace his boots.

Kane has scored more goals per game than Shearer in a far more competitive era. He's also scored more goals both on a per game basis and total goals at international level.

Henry
Drogba
Aguero
Haaland
Kane
Suarez

All 6 better forwards than Shearer IMO.

He did score a lot of penalties but interestingly he's also missed more penalties than any player in EPL history. His overall conversion rate for penalties was 83%. Compare that to Henry for example who converted 92% of his penalties.

He was a fantastic player though no doubt, I just don't rate him as highly as some other do (including himself).

[MWHIBBIES]

"kane couldn't lace shearers boots" is without doubt one of the dumbest things I've ever read. No one who actually watches Kane could believe that.

Shearer was a great player. Kane is probably slightly better.

[MWHIBBIES]

Imagine taking Wharton, Mainoo, Gallagher and Palmer to the Euros then playing TAA in midfield who doesn’t even play there for his club, I just can’t get get my head around that one. Southgate just strikes me as a very average manager who should be doing more with that set of players.

Trent had a decent game. He's much better at opening the game up than Mainoo, Wharton and Gallagher. Palmer plays a totally different position.

His mistake is trying to force Foden into the side, totally out of position. He offers nothing on the left and has to drift in field. England then have no one on the left because Trippier isn't a left back and isn't overlapping. Gordon and Shaw in the team would have them looking significantly better.

[JimBHibees]

Trent had a decent game. He's much better at opening the game up than Mainoo, Wharton and Gallagher. Palmer plays a totally different position.

His mistake is trying to force Foden into the side, totally out of position. He offers nothing on the left and has to drift in field. England then have no one on the left because Trippier isn't a left back and isn't overlapping. Gordon and Shaw in the team would have them looking significantly better.

Think Trent looks out of position personally. Think he should play either Mainoo or Wharton. Different imo playing right back then moving to centre mid though of course he rotates into that position at his club. Agree about Foden and the left back position

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

England have a favourable path to the quarters at least.

Win their group they'll play a 3rd place from groups D, E or F. So likey Poland, Ukraine or Czechia

After that they'll play the winner of Swiss vs Italy(possibly Croatia)

A semi final showdown with France SHOULD take care of them, but we can only dream here of reaching that phase of a major tournament so hardly a failure

[Since90+2]

England have a favourable path to the quarters at least.

Win their group they'll play a 3rd place from groups D, E or F. So likey Poland, Ukraine or Czechia

After that they'll play the winner of Swiss vs Italy(possibly Croatia)

A semi final showdown with France SHOULD take care of them, but we can only dream here of reaching that phase of a major tournament so hardly a failure

If the draw turns out they play Italy in the quarters that's a very difficult game (for both teams). Having seen both teams I'd not say England should be overly confident of winning that game.

[Scouse Hibee]

England have a favourable path to the quarters at least.

Win their group they'll play a 3rd place from groups D, E or F. So likey Poland, Ukraine or Czechia

After that they'll play the winner of Swiss vs Italy(possibly Croatia)

A semi final showdown with France SHOULD take care of them, but we can only dream here of reaching that phase of a major tournament so hardly a failure

Ah the old favourable draw/path line is out already just in case………so so predictable on here 😂😂😂

[Since452]

I think England will only improve as the tournament goes on. They won't be far away.

[Hibees1973]

England have a favourable path to the quarters at least.

Win their group they'll play a 3rd place from groups D, E or F. So likey Poland, Ukraine or Czechia

After that they'll play the winner of Swiss vs Italy(possibly Croatia)

A semi final showdown with France SHOULD take care of them, but we can only dream here of reaching that phase of a major tournament so hardly a failure

They won their qualifying group, been to semis & finals recently.

They are a seeded side and have earned a more favourable draw.

[hibsbollah]

Ah the old favourable draw/path line is out already just in case………so so predictable on here 😂😂😂

Im not sure the favourable path thing works this year, theres been too many strong performances from supposedly small nations to feel confident about what an ‘easy’ game is. Spain France Germany look the strongest but behind those 3 i think most of the rest of the likely last 16 will be able to beat each other on their day.

[A Hi-Bee]

They get such easy draws when you think about it, amazing that the likes of Denmark and Greece have won this while they have not.
With the players they have they should skoosh this Euro tournament.
:wink:

[A Hi-Bee]

Cantona?
Drogba?
Rooney at his peak?

Joe Baker and Neil Martin,
over 100 goals both sides of the border.

The English had a couple of guys named Greaves and Clough.
Shearer couldnie lace their boots.

:thumbsup:

[MWHIBBIES]

They get such easy draws when you think about it, amazing that the likes of Denmark and Greece have won this while they have not.
With the players they have they should skoosh this Euro tournament.
:wink:
They do not have better players than France, so I'm not sure they should skoosh anything. Should be doing better, though.

[BILLYHIBS]

Slovakia 1 v 0 Ukraine

Slovakia 4 shots on target already

[Donegal Hibby]

Ukraine's defence went sleeping there .

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Slovakia 1 v 0 Ukraine

Slovakia 4 shots on target already

Well deserved lead. Think we'll see plenty goals here

[BILLYHIBS]

Slovakia 1 v 1 Ukraine

[BILLYHIBS]

Slovakia 1 v 2 Ukraine

[hibsbollah]

Quite the turnaround here. Slovakia had played three halfs of faultless football this tournament, Ukraine finaly turn up and score two goals. I think this group could throw up a dark horse, Romania looked very impressive too.

[EdinMike]

Belgium could be out if impressive Romania turn up again tomorrow ! Who would have predicted that !

[hibsbollah]

Gugenpress Austria vs Poland, great noise.

[Scorrie]

1-0 Austria. Good header

[hibsbollah]

Austria=fast, Poland=slow.

[marinello59]

Yessssss get in there. Poland equalise. :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

In 4 games so far the winning team has had to come from behind to win, the same number as in the entirety of the last tournament.

[hibsbollah]

That was a beautiful Austrian goal. Baumgartner is absolute class.

[Scorrie]

That was a beautiful Austrian goal. Baumgartner is absolute class.

Agree. A wonderful footballer. Penalty now Austria

[sleeping giant]

Keeper brought down the player with his face 😁

[MWHIBBIES]

Great 2nd half this.

[hibsbollah]

Great 2nd half this.

:agree: ive enjoyed every game ive seen, i only missed Turkey Georgia and that had some wonderful goals. A ridiculously fun tournament

Edit-whoops forgot about Scotland germany :greengrin

[we are hibs]

That's a great save

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[hibsbollah]

Sceszney save there is one of the best ive seen, amazing

[marinello59]

This Austria side has been as good as anyone so far. Dark horses of the tournament?

[MWHIBBIES]

This Austria side has been as good as anyone so far. Dark horses of the tournament?

I thought they looked good against France but were never going to score. Much more attacking threat here, very good.

Poland never ever seen to turn up in tournaments.

[Glory Lurker]

France victory tonight and a winner in Ned Aus means this is a 3 point third place group. There's another permutation of Ned win tonight and on Tuesday plus France win on Tuesday, but I want France to win the whole thing so let's discount that one!

Obviously Scotland win is baked in!

[Donegal Hibby]

This Austria side has been as good as anyone so far. Dark horses of the tournament?

If France beat the Netherlands , it's going to set up a cracker between the Netherlands and Austria . I wouldn't bet against Austria in that one either.

[babahibs]

Mbappe on the bench

[crash]

If France beat the Netherlands , it's going to set up a cracker between the Netherlands and Austria . I wouldn't bet against Austria in that one either.

Or it could be a farce as both teams settle on a draw which would see them both qualified with 4 points.

[hibsbollah]

Mbappe on the bench

Kolo Muani instead?

[MWHIBBIES]

Kolo Muani instead?

Tchoumeni

He's gone for the grafter midfield 3/4 with Dembele and Lillian's lad up top.

[hibsbollah]

Tchoumeni

He's gone for the grafter midfield 3/4 with Dembele and Lillian's lad up top.

Not surprising hes gone conservative. I would have liked to see Barcola, wee genius this season.

[Glory Lurker]

Or it could be a farce as both teams settle on a draw which would see them both qualified with 4 points.

That's a splash of cold water in the face.

[Scorrie]

State of Wayne Rooney. No stranger to a pie I’d wager

[silverhibee]

State of Wayne Rooney. No stranger to a pie I’d wager

I’m sure he eats better than pies, he has always been a podgy player and with him training all the time it has kept his weight down, now he ain’t training all the time he has put on a few pounds, I doubt he worries about being a tad overweight nowadays.

[EdinMike]

No goals in the first 5 minutes makes this a dud game compared to most of the other games in this tournament !!

Que the goal any minute now…

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

That Memphis is murder 👎

[hibsbollah]

Wow, Dembeles pace is incredible, Ake’s strength is supposed to be his pace and he just blew past him, shame about the touch

[MWHIBBIES]

That Memphis is murder 👎

Always difficult against Saliba. Guy made Haaland look like a lost child 3 times last season.

[JohnM1875]

VAR been seamless all tournament then English refs get involved.

[we are hibs]

That's got to be interfering with the goalie if he's standing right next to him and it stops him diving. Jenas really is thick as ****

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[MWHIBBIES]

The minute English refs involved, we have chaos. Shocker

[GreenCastle]

Think that was an offside goal sadly as Dutch player close to the GK and obstructing him. Don’t think the keeper was getting it though.

Think the English refs have been really crap in this game - most other games been really pretty good.

[JohnM1875]

That’s a shambles of a decision to rule that out 😂😂

[hibsbollah]

That's got to be interfering with the goalie if he's standing right next to him and it stops him diving.

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:agree:
Jenas spouts.

[Hiber-nation]

The minute English refs involved, we have chaos. Shocker

Yep just said it. Desperate to find something amiss. You'd think they'd learn from all the other refs in the tournament who've done a good job.

[flash]

That's got to be interfering with the goalie if he's standing right next to him and it stops him diving. Jenas really is thick as ****

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Keeper wouldn't have saved that with Kenny Everett sized gloves.

Goal for me.

[blackpoolhibs]

Can you imagine the mess if a Scottish ref had been in charge.:faf:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Can you imagine the mess if a Scottish ref had been in charge.:faf:

Penalty for the team in orange surely.

[EdinMike]

Shame cause this game needed something to spark it into life, feels like it’s gone flat now…

[Brummie_Hibs]

Can you imagine the mess if a Scottish ref had been in charge.:faf:
They would have given it. Orange and aw that!

[blackpoolhibs]

Penalty for the team in orange surely.

Of course, silly me. :greengrin

[Callum_62]

Why didn't the goalie dive?

Think that's a harsh call tbh

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[Real Emerald]

That's got to be interfering with the goalie if he's standing right next to him and it stops him diving. Jenas really is thick as ****

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It’s one of those that if it’s your team that scores he wasn’t interfering but if you’re the defending team he definitely is. I honestly think you could argue it both ways but as they said in commentary, they’re more interested in finding ways to disallow goals.

[hibsbollah]

Two managers who didnt want to lose and set up accordingly.

[Dmas]

Why didn't the goalie dive?

Think that's a harsh call tbh

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If your aware of a guy standing in the way your not going to throw yourself into him offside all day long the fact Jenas can’t see it should be enough for his P45

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Pretty poor game TBH 😴

[easty]

Pretty poor game TBH 😴

Aye. 2 teams no arsed about winning.

[Since452]

Why do they all cover their mouths when they're talking to each other at the end?

[Glory Lurker]

Why do they all cover their mouths when they're talking to each other at the end?

To avoid being lip read.

[Crazyhorse]

Pushkas? 🤭

👍 👍 👍

[EdinMike]

On paper all of these games today don’t look too interesting however I have a feeling all of them could be tasty.

Especially Türkiye v Portugal and Belgium needing to win !

[Since90+2]

On paper all of these games today don’t look too interesting however I have a feeling all of them could be tasty.

Especially Türkiye v Portugal and Belgium needing to win !

I think Turkey v Portugal sounds like a great tie.

[silverhibee]

Why didn't the goalie dive?

Think that's a harsh call tbh

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Reminds me of Deek’s goal against the yams at ER when Fletcher was standing in an offside position but not interfering with play, obviously Gordon said he was but goal was given.

[JohnM1875]

A few of these Georgian players love a mazy run, good game so far

[JohnM1875]

1-0 Georgia after a pen award for handball. Then the Georgia keeper makes an unreal save! He's some keeper.

[EdinMike]

Love an underdog ! Mon the Georgians !

[crash]

Love an underdog ! Mon the Georgians !

Finished 1-1, that means that a draw may be enough for Scotland to qualify, depending on the results in Group B and Group F, where the third place teams only have 1 point with tough last games.

[scoopyboy]

Finished 1-1, that means that a draw may be enough for Scotland to qualify, depending on the results in Group B and Group F, where the third place teams only have 1 point with tough last games.

There is no chance whatsoever that Scotland are going through with 2 points and a goal difference of -4

[Gordy M]

There is no chance whatsoever that Scotland are going through with 2 points and a goal difference of -4

Boy just posted on twitter that if spain italy portugal and turkey win their last games in the groups then Scotland would qualify with 2 points

[Donegal Hibby]

Looking forward to this game , should be goals in it 😀

[green day]

There is no chance whatsoever that Scotland are going through with 2 points and a goal difference of -4

It's unlikely but not impossible.

The Georgia and Czech draw helped us.

https://x.com/scotlandscoeff1/status/1804532080786756076?t=Ofp_x3kzy-pRPz2xvR8D5g&s=19

[scoopyboy]

Boy just posted on twitter that if spain italy portugal and turkey win their last games in the groups then Scotland would qualify with 2 points

And he's right on checking the table.

However I will stand by my statement that Scotland wont qualify with two points and -4.

I would look forward to coming on here and admitting I was so wrong.:greengrin

Thing is ours is the first section to finish so we really have to look to win the game

[crash]

And he's right on checking the table.

However I will stand by my statement that Scotland wont qualify with two points and -4.

I would look forward to coming on here and admitting I was so wrong.:greengrin

Thing is ours is the first section to finish so we really have to look to win the game
Obviously Scotland are looking to win the game, all I am saying is if we were to draw there is still a good chance we could still qualify.

[hibsbollah]

Obviously Scotland are looking to win the game, all I am saying is if we were to draw there is still a good chance we could still qualify.

I'm confused by this, ESPN still says 2 points won't be enough to qualify, because I assume the bottom two teams play each other in the final game and at least one of them will go over 2 points and overtake Scotland, who will have the worst goal difference at 2 points -4.
I assume major media outlets will have done their sums. Edit, the BBC also have Scotland as dead last in third place position, 6th of the 6 groups.

[Billy Whizz]

A few preseason friendlies today in Scotland. Only result I’ve seen is Brechin 0-2 Dundee Utd

[Irish_Steve]

Did Ronaldo try to win a penalty just as Portugal scored there lol

[Coach Jon]

I'm confused by this, ESPN still says 2 points won't be enough to qualify, because I assume the bottom two teams play each other in the final game and at least one of them will go over 2 points and overtake Scotland
I assume major media outlets will have done their sums. Edit, the BBC also have Scotland as dead last in third place position, 6th of the 6 groups.

Currently that is the position, however if Scotland were to draw tomorrow, they would move to 2 points which would put them to 4th position of the 6 groups.The teams below them who could displace them from 4th would still have to play their final game, but all are not fancied in these games.

[scm70nyd1973]

Did Ronaldo try to win a penalty just as Portugal scored there lol

Don’t think so -the deflection probs put him off

[marinello59]

That has to be own goal of the year. :greengrin

[Tambo]

What on earth happened there.

[scoopyboy]

I'm confused by this, ESPN still says 2 points won't be enough to qualify, because I assume the bottom two teams play each other in the final game and at least one of them will go over 2 points and overtake Scotland, who will have the worst goal difference at 2 points -4.
I assume major media outlets will have done their sums. Edit, the BBC also have Scotland as dead last in third place position, 6th of the 6 groups.

The bottom teams don't play each other though. I've checked and it can happen but a draw would leave us in a very sticky situation.

[Hulk1875]

What on earth happened there.

😂

[Tambo]

That has to be own goal of the year. :greengrin

Crazy own goal.

[Paul1642]

Won’t see a worse own goal at this tournament 😵

[SHODAN]

Lmao

[Donegal Hibby]

What on earth was the defender doing ? He didn't even look to see where the keeper was 😂

[Irish_Steve]

Lee Dixon scored a belting own goal, lobbed Seaman about 40 yards…..

[scm70nyd1973]

Won’t see a worse own goal at this tournament 😵

Don’t say that - I’d quite happily take one worse or better than that - depending on how you analyse it - from the Hungarians - or even 3

[Paul1642]

Don’t say that - I’d quite happily take one worse or better than that - depending on how you analyse it - from the Hungarians - or even 3

We must be about 1 more own goal away from some sort of Euros record :)

[hibsbollah]

The bottom teams don't play each other though. I've checked and it can happen but a draw would leave us in a very sticky situation.

You’re right, thats irrelevant info on my part, but i dont think it’s mathematically possible for us to qualify with 2 minus four. And if it is, it requires a ridiculously large number of results to go our way, plus some heavy amount of goals. Certainly not a ‘good chance’ if qualifying with a draw.

[scm70nyd1973]

We must be about 1 more own goal away from some sort of Euros record :)

I’d take it right now

[Paul1642]

Boy just posted on twitter that if spain italy portugal and turkey win their last games in the groups then Scotland would qualify with 2 points

I think this checks out. Also I think England hammering Slovenia by 5 goals would remove the need for Turkey and Portugal to win. Not likely though and we best not rely on this.

[green day]

You’re right, thats irrelevant info on my part, but i dont think it’s mathematically possible for us to qualify with 2 minus four. And if it is, it requires a ridiculously large number of results to go our way, plus some heavy amount of goals. Certainly not a ‘good chance’ if qualifying with a draw.

See my twitter link above.

[hibsbollah]

I think this checks out. Also I think England hammering Slovenia by 5 goals would remove the need for Turkey and Portugal to win. Not likely though and we best not rely on this.

Slovenia are super unlucky not to have qualified by now, i fancy them to get something against England. The group thats most likely to help Scotland is the Spain Italy group, but Albania and Croatia are both capable and you need one more group for all the pieces fall into place.

[Paul1642]

See my twitter link above.

I think the three groups where we can be a better 3rd placed team on 2 points are

Group C

Denmark win and England win by 5 goals leaving 3rd place on 2pts and worse GD than us.


Group B

Spain and Italy win leaving 3rd place on 1pt


Group F

Turkey and Portugal win leaving 3rd place on 1pt


We obviously only need two of these to play out, or preferably we just win :)

[hibsbollah]

See my twitter link above.

Thanks, brain slightly scrambled:greengrin

[crash]

And he's right on checking the table.

However I will stand by my statement that Scotland wont qualify with two points and -4.

I would look forward to coming on here and admitting I was so wrong.:greengrin

Thing is ours is the first section to finish so we really have to look to win the game
Obviously Scotland are looking to win the game, all I am saying is if we were to draw there is still a good chance we could still qualify.

[Paul1642]

Did Ronaldo just pass from a goalscoring position. I’ve seen it all now.

[hibsbollah]

Obviously Scotland are looking to win the game, all I am saying is if we were to draw there is still a good chance we could still qualify.

Define ‘good chance’ :greengrin im no statistician but its less than a 1/4 surely

[Paul1642]

Obviously Scotland are looking to win the game, all I am saying is if we were to draw there is still a good chance we could still qualify.

Admittedly it’s nice that our tournament isn’t necessarily over at FT tomorrow with a draw. Going through with a 4 goal defeat and 2 draws makes a joke of the whole group though.

[Donegal Hibby]

Big result for Portugal as the runners up of this group will probably be up against France .

[Paul1642]

Big result for Portugal as the runners up of this group will probably be up against France .

They will instead face a 3rd place team, maybe even us. Game changer for them despite the fact i would actually fancy them against France.