Hanlon 3 year deal at Raith.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Football Scotland saying Paul Hanlon has 3 year deal agreed at Raith Rovers.

[The Modfather]

A good move for him and the length of deal will have played a part in his move. However it’s telling that both Stevenson and Hanlon have moved to the championship. Seemingly Gray wanted to keep Hanlon, which worries me as to how ruthless he will be going forward.

[Carheenlea]

A good move for him and the length of deal will have played a part in his move. However it’s telling that both Stevenson and Hanlon have moved to the championship. Seemingly Gray wanted to keep Hanlon, which worries me as to how ruthless he will be going forward.

I’d say it would have been not a bad call to retain some link to the ‘16 cup winning side as a senior squad figure, but admittedly that hadn’t exactly reaped much reward by way of inspiring players coming in to the club in the subsequent years that followed.

Just doesn’t feel right to me to see Hanlon and Stevenson signing for Raith Rovers.

[Bobby's Cinema]

A good move for him and the length of deal will have played a part in his move. However it’s telling that both Stevenson and Hanlon have moved to the championship. Seemingly Gray wanted to keep Hanlon, which worries me as to how ruthless he will be going forward.
I'm not sure it is that telling. Teaming up with Ian Murray and Kevin D carrying on the momentum and the chance to fight once again for a league title, good chance to play for something meaningful and plenty game time at that stage in their career that is just up the road. Makes alot of sense vs other bottom 6 options, hope it works out for them.

[Northernhibee]

An absolutely outstanding bit of business for Raith. 100% still decent Premiership quality

[Wilson]

I'm not sure it is that telling. Teaming up with Ian Murray and Kevin D carrying on the momentum and the chance to fight once again for a league title, good chance to play for something meaningful and plenty game time at that stage in their career that is just up the road. Makes alot of sense vs other bottom 6 options, hope it works out for them.

Agree. Stevenson has gone for obvious reasons. It's a good level for his age and his hometown club. Hanlon gets a good length of contract and links up with a playing partner he has good history with. It is a good move.

[supermcginn]

I read on here that Hanlon would end up playing for a team that finished ahead of us last season? Oh well good luck to him anyway

[HendoDelivered]

An absolutely outstanding bit of business for Raith. 100% still decent Premiership quality

This

[Since90+2]

I read on here that Hanlon would end up playing for a team that finished ahead of us last season? Oh well good luck to him anyway

Yeah that was mentioned a few times. Seems unlikely it was ever actually on the table otherwise he'd not be dropping down a level.

[mcohibs]

A good move for him and the length of deal will have played a part in his move. However it’s telling that both Stevenson and Hanlon have moved to the championship. Seemingly Gray wanted to keep Hanlon, which worries me as to how ruthless he will be going forward.

Hanlon’s the best centre half we have at the club. I wouldn’t be worried that Gray wanted to keep him, it’s common sense.

[Wilson]

Yeah that was mentioned a few times. Seems unlikely it was ever actually on the table otherwise he'd not be dropping down a level.

Not too sure what would be attractive about that. Move to a club similar to hibs, but not hibs. Go through the same rigmarole in the same division... but not hibs. You'd have to really desperate to cling to your premier league status to put yourself through it.

Being sought after. Asked to bring his experience to a potential promotion push. Maybe that was a little more attractive.

[Stokesy's on fire]

We should have been keeping hold of Hanlon while the defence gets a rebuild. Madness letting him go as he has plenty to offer.

[The Modfather]

Hanlon’s the best centre half we have at the club. I wouldn’t be worried that Gray wanted to keep him, it’s common sense.

Marshall was also the best keeper we had at the club, should we have renewed him as well?

[Waxy]

Delighted for Two Hibs legends at Raith.
A promotion would be the icing on the cake.
All the best.

[Since90+2]

Not too sure what would be attractive about that. Move to a club similar to hibs, but not hibs. Go through the same rigmarole in the same division... but not hibs. You'd have to really desperate to cling to your premier league status to put yourself through it.

Being sought after. Asked to bring his experience to a potential promotion push. Maybe that was a little more attractive.

Well off the top of my head likely a higher salary given he was link with Killie for instance (who will pay more than Raith you'd imagine), the chance to play the highest level in Scotland, and continue playing at grounds like Celtic Park and Ibrox multiple times a season. Plus a European qualifier or two.

There's literally nothing more appealing about playing for Raith Rovers in the 2nd tier than someone like Killie. The only thing is it will be easier for him to play as the standard is far lower, but wouldn't say that's exactly positive.

[B.H.F.C]

Hanlon’s the best centre half we have at the club. I wouldn’t be worried that Gray wanted to keep him, it’s common sense.

Not for me. We needed to free up space to allow us to improve the squad. If all three centre halves were out of contract I’d have kept Hanlon ahead of the other two. But with the space made, I hope we bring in a first choice pair, not just one.

[Wilson]

Well off the top of my head likely a higher salary given he was link with Killie for instance (who will pay more than Raith you'd imagine), the chance to play the highest level in Scotland, and continue playing at grounds like Celtic Park and Ibrox multiple times a season. Plus a European qualifier or two.

There's literally nothing more appealing about playing for Raith Rovers in the 2nd tier than someone like Killie. The only thing is it will be easier for him to play as the standard is far lower, but wouldn't say that's exactly positive.

He's played at those venues. He's played European ties at a club with little prospect of going deep. It's old hat. I genuinely think he'd be going through the motions at a fellow SPL club and would rather be at hibs. The link up with Lewis and the challenge at Raith clearly means more than you think.

Killie might not have been in for him but he'd have had other admirers...

[Since90+2]

He's played at those venues. He's played European ties at a club with little prospect of going deep. It's old hat. I genuinely think he'd be going through the motions at a fellow SPL club and would rather be at hibs. The link up with Lewis and the challenge at Raith clearly means more than you think.

Killie might not have been in for him but he'd have had other admirers...

Each to their own I suppose but I can't see the appeal of playing infront of 1500 or so compared to 50,000/60,000 even if you've done it previously.

[Brightside]

Yeah that was mentioned a few times. Seems unlikely it was ever actually on the table otherwise he'd not be dropping down a level.

2 were "on the table"

[Paul1642]

Hanlon’s the best centre half we have at the club. I wouldn’t be worried that Gray wanted to keep him, it’s common sense.

Better than Rocky and Harbottle isn’t setting the bar high enough. If they were both out of contact they would be away too.

[JimBHibees]

Good luck to Paul legend. Clear attraction of a three year deal

[badabing67]

Marshall was also the best keeper we had at the club, should we have renewed him as well?


I think we should add him to the coaching staff if he wants that.

[J-C]

I can see Raith making a big push next season.

[Pretty Boy]

Good move for him. Good move for Raith. And I'm in a minority of one but a good move for Hibs as well.

It's time to move on and clear the decks and that will mean favourites leaving. The issue isn't moving on soon to be 37 year old Lewis Stevenson or Paul Hanlon who has missed big chunks of 2 of the last 3 seasons through injury; the issue is the apparent lack of succession planning that means at least one of them leaves a huge hole in the squad. It's something I have moaned about repeatedly for at least a couple of years. Giving Hanlon another year would have been a classic case of kicking the can down the road albeit I can see why some feel it may have been a necessity because our CB options are currently Rocky and errrrr..........

[Bridge hibs]

Good move for him. Good move for Raith. And I'm in a minority of one but a good move for Hibs as well.

It's time to move on and clear the decks and that will mean favourites leaving. The issue isn't moving on soon to be 37 year old Lewis Stevenson or Paul Hanlon who has missed big chunks of 2 of the last 3 seasons through injury; the issue is the apparent lack of succession planning that means at least one of them leaves a huge hole in the squad. It's something I have moaned about repeatedly for at least a couple of years. Giving Hanlon another year would have been a classic case of kicking the can down the road albeit I can see why some feel it may have been a necessity because our CB options are currently Rocky and errrrr..........Minority of two, I agree with you aswell

[McD]

Each to their own I suppose but I can't see the appeal of playing infront of 1500 or so compared to 50,000/60,000 even if you've done it previously.



Perhaps the relatively short commute, meaning more time with family rather than traipsing to Kilmarnock was appealing? By all accounts he’s looked after his money, lower wages but better work-life balance may have been the winner for him :dunno:

[wookie70]

I think letting Hanlon go will prove to be a mistake. I suspect he was not on a huge salary, was a model pro and still looked better than most of the rubbish we have had play in the centre of defense. I will be over the moon and surprised if we end up with a better left sided centre half on our budget and will be amazed if we get a better squad LCH for the money. I suspect we will be paying a good deal more for 2 LCHs that are no better than Paul and more than likely at least one will not be as good. If SDG is to be boss I'm very surprised we have not kept Hanlon but perhaps the security of a 3 year contract and the challenge of getting Raith promoted meant he wasn't going to hang on for ifs and ands

[Brightside]

Perhaps the relatively short commute, meaning more time with family rather than traipsing to Kilmarnock was appealing? By all accounts he’s looked after his money, lower wages but better work-life balance may have been the winner for him :dunno:

Spot on. A few people on here always looking to have a dig no matter what. Petty nonsense.

[cabbageandribs1875]

3 years, great job security for PH, hope he does very well there


and Lewis of course :agree:

[HibbyAndy]

All the best Paul , We need much better though

[jeffers]

2 were "on the table"

Exactly, but there were other factors in him choosing Raith.

[InvertedFullBak]

Minority of two, I agree with you aswell


Make that three. We cannot keep handing out contracts to guys who aren’t good enough at this level anymore. Decks to be cleared and totally cleared.

[The Modfather]

I think letting Hanlon go will prove to be a mistake. I suspect he was not on a huge salary, was a model pro and still looked better than most of the rubbish we have had play in the centre of defense. I will be over the moon and surprised if we end up with a better left sided centre half on our budget and will be amazed if we get a better squad LCH for the money. I suspect we will be paying a good deal more for 2 LCHs that are no better than Paul and more than likely at least one will not be as good. If SDG is to be boss I'm very surprised we have not kept Hanlon but perhaps the security of a 3 year contract and the challenge of getting Raith promoted meant he wasn't going to hang on for ifs and ands

I don’t mean to go out my way to be negative with Hanlon, or anyone, but your post also goes too far in the opposite direction and airbrushes the previous season IMO. I’ve never made a positive case for any of Hanlon/Fish/Rocky, and always maintained that “our best centreback” is bald men fighting over a comb and based more on sentiment and credit in the bank than actual performances last season.

For as very good as Hanlon was in his farewell match, he was very lucky not to cost a goal in Dingwall when Murray robbed him and his shot hit the post and rolled along the line, or being weak at Livingstons goal. You could point to similar games that Fish & Rocky looked the real deal and then point to games they cost us goals. 3 peas in a pod IMO.

Better the devil you know is fine, but talk of not being able to get better than a 34 year old Hanlon, either as a starter or a backup, on our budget is hyperbole.

I’ll leave my opinion on Hanlon there. A good servant and wish him well.

[He's here!]

Each to their own I suppose but I can't see the appeal of playing infront of 1500 or so compared to 50,000/60,000 even if you've done it previously.

Is the chance to keep playing in front of those crowds likely to be a deal clincher when you've been doing it for 15-20 years and getting gubbed the vast majority of time? I wouldn't be surprised if he can see it far enough.

He's a sensible fella. Three year deal at a club likely to be vying again for promotion, a short commute compared to a grim trek along the M8 en route to Ayrshire, a good atmosphere at a tight ground and a BA in sports business in the bag from Napier Uni. He'll have a solid future mapped out.

[ian cruise]

Good move for him. 3 year deal, he's not going to get that with a decent Premier club and if he's ambitions to be a manager it's probably in the time frame that Murray will move on (whether it's because he continues his success with Raith or things start to decline) so he's in a good place for that if he wants to give management a go. Possibly something he and Stevenson are thinking of together?

I'm a big fan of Paul but as good as he's been, we shouldn't have been offering him anymore than one more season and our goal should have been to find a first team centre back with Paul as back up had we retained him, so it makes sense for both Hibs and Paul Hanlon that he moves on.

[eastmainsmsh]

Heard a wee while back both Paul and Lewis were heading There great service we will miss them good Luck

[He's here!]

I read on here that Hanlon would end up playing for a team that finished ahead of us last season? Oh well good luck to him anyway

If our recruitment doesn't go well we might be swapping places with Raith next season ;-)

Yes, all the best to him.

[Keepthefaith]

I don’t mean to go out my way to be negative with Hanlon, or anyone, but your post also goes too far in the opposite direction and airbrushes the previous season IMO. I’ve never made a positive case for any of Hanlon/Fish/Rocky, and always maintained that “our best centreback” is bald men fighting over a comb and based more on sentiment and credit in the bank than actual performances last season.

For as very good as Hanlon was in his farewell match, he was very lucky not to cost a goal in Dingwall when Murray robbed him and his shot hit the post and rolled along the line, or being weak at Livingstons goal. You could point to similar games that Fish & Rocky looked the real deal and then point to games they cost us goals. 3 peas in a pod IMO.

Better the devil you know is fine, but talk of not being able to get better than a 34 year old Hanlon, either as a starter or a backup, on our budget is hyperbole.

I’ll leave my opinion on Hanlon there. A good servant and wish him well.

Well said. The club have stated their intent to bring in better quality players, you don't do that by hanging onto ok enough who are at the end of their contracts. Like you I wish him well but it's time to move on.

[MWHIBBIES]

Glad they are still together.

[wookie70]

I don’t mean to go out my way to be negative with Hanlon, or anyone, but your post also goes too far in the opposite direction and airbrushes the previous season IMO. I’ve never made a positive case for any of Hanlon/Fish/Rocky, and always maintained that “our best centreback” is bald men fighting over a comb and based more on sentiment and credit in the bank than actual performances last season.

For as very good as Hanlon was in his farewell match, he was very lucky not to cost a goal in Dingwall when Murray robbed him and his shot hit the post and rolled along the line, or being weak at Livingstons goal. You could point to similar games that Fish & Rocky looked the real deal and then point to games they cost us goals. 3 peas in a pod IMO.

Better the devil you know is fine, but talk of not being able to get better than a 34 year old Hanlon, either as a starter or a backup, on our budget is hyperbole.

I’ll leave my opinion on Hanlon there. A good servant and wish him well. It may be hyperbole to you but I would call it speaking from past experience of our dealings. We haven't really found a left sided centre half for god knows how many windows never mind one approaching Hanlon's quality. I'm not convinced there is more chance this time even with a wee bit of BK money. Money which may come with expectation of improving their group rather than just Hibs albeit we may get some short term gain

[lugz]

"It's a corner to Raith, their last chance before this playoff final goes to extra time.....its Paul Hanlon, he's done it...Raith are up and it's championship football next season for hibs, you couldn't write it" :rolleyes:

[Forza Fred]

Marshall was also the best keeper we had at the club, should we have renewed him as well?

I respectfully submit that the answer to this question is best given after we have seen who his replacement is.

[jakedance]

I wish I had any confidence that we’ll sign better defenders than Hanlon for next season.

[neil7908]

I read on here that Hanlon would end up playing for a team that finished ahead of us last season? Oh well good luck to him anyway

And he may well have had offers from a club or clubs above us. There fact he's getting a 3 year deal at his age is huge imo. That means he has a bit of security for what's likely his final contract. All speculation but he and his family may have felt 3 years closer to home in Kirkcaldy is more appealing than say a year at Killie and having to move or have a huge commute.

Fwiw I think Lewis moving on was the right move but Hanlon would have been worth another year. We are desperately short of experience at centre back. Club needs 2 quality players in their who can fit straight in. Time will tell but our record isn't great for recruitment.

[O'Rourke3]

Well off the top of my head likely a higher salary given he was link with Killie for instance (who will pay more than Raith you'd imagine), the chance to play the highest level in Scotland, and continue playing at grounds like Celtic Park and Ibrox multiple times a season. Plus a European qualifier or two.

There's literally nothing more appealing about playing for Raith Rovers in the 2nd tier than someone like Killie. The only thing is it will be easier for him to play as the standard is far lower, but wouldn't say that's exactly positive.That's assuming there were talks and a solid offer. Perhaps a coaching role or simply a shorter drive to work every day made the difference. Be pretty sure the travel to East Mains over the bypass was a daily pain in the erse.

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[scoopyboy]

I read on here that Hanlon would end up playing for a team that finished ahead of us last season? Oh well good luck to him anyway

He would have been if he had accepted an offer but a 3 year deal gives him security for him and his family in the near future

[HendoDelivered]

About to get announced by Raith.

[Coach Jon]

About to get announced by Raith.

Great News.

[Billy Whizz]

About to get announced by Raith.

He’s on his hols

[HendoDelivered]

He’s on his hols

Ah, seen them posting a teaser and all the replies I seen said Hanlon so jusy assumed.

[CropleyWasGod]

He’s on his hols

At the caravan park in Kinghorn..... :wink:

[Berwickhibby]

At the caravan park in Kinghorn..... :wink:

Pettycur Bay lol 😂

[jeffers]

Great News.

Why ? Are you a Raith fan ?

[Billy Whizz]

At the caravan park in Kinghorn..... :wink:

Don’t knock Kinghorn😀 I love that coast from Aberdour to Kinghorn, if you can speed past BurntIsland

[Northernhibee]

About to get announced by Raith.

Dick extends.

[04Sauzee]

Dick extends.

FFS this is a family forum.

[Northernhibee]

FFS this is a family forum.

Everyone will be happy to see it though.

He’s a decent player for them.

[CropleyWasGod]

Dick extends.

He's their regular left-back, which begs the question, where does Lewie play?

I thought it was strange that, when we played them in the Lewis Vaughan testimonial, our Lewie played in midfield. Maybe that was his trial?

[blackpoolhibs]

Good move for him. Good move for Raith. And I'm in a minority of one but a good move for Hibs as well.

It's time to move on and clear the decks and that will mean favourites leaving. The issue isn't moving on soon to be 37 year old Lewis Stevenson or Paul Hanlon who has missed big chunks of 2 of the last 3 seasons through injury; the issue is the apparent lack of succession planning that means at least one of them leaves a huge hole in the squad. It's something I have moaned about repeatedly for at least a couple of years. Giving Hanlon another year would have been a classic case of kicking the can down the road albeit I can see why some feel it may have been a necessity because our CB options are currently Rocky and errrrr..........

Spot on.:agree:

[Malthibby]

I read on here that Hanlon would end up playing for a team that finished ahead of us last season? Oh well good luck to him anyway


Meybes meant he would be playing for a team that finishes ahead of us next season?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Dick extends.

Reported

[Swedish hibee]

I'm shocked that noone in the PL wanted him.. or maybe he didn't want to go.. anyways, Good Luck Paul & Lewis. Hope their season goes very well.

[Brightside]

I'm shocked that noone in the PL wanted him.. or maybe he didn't want to go.. anyways, Good Luck Paul & Lewis. Hope their season goes very well.

As has been mentioned he had offers from the prem. decided it was bette for him and his family to stay closer to home and just enjoy his last few years of football. He’s not like the majority of footballers and has never chased the pound. Raith will be delighted.

[Itsnoteasy]

I'm shocked that noone in the PL wanted him.. or maybe he didn't want to go.. anyways, Good Luck Paul & Lewis. Hope their season goes very well.

Sad to say, but the championship is probably his level now.

[flash]

As has been mentioned he had offers from the prem. decided it was bette for him and his family to stay closer to home and just enjoy his last few years of football. He’s not like the majority of footballers and has never chased the pound. Raith will be delighted.

Perfect move for him in my opinion.

Raith now have unbelievable experience to tap into.

[Smartie]

Perfect move for him in my opinion.

Raith now have unbelievable experience to tap into.

They're a pair of absolutely superb signings tbh.

[ian cruise]

I'm shocked that noone in the PL wanted him.. or maybe he didn't want to go.. anyways, Good Luck Paul & Lewis. Hope their season goes very well.

Clubs will have wanted him, but unlikely anyone was offering him a 3 year deal. Money in Scottish football is at the point that there can't be a huge difference between what Raith on the verge of top league, and half the existing clubs in the top league would be offering Paul Hanlon wage wise. Great opportunity to keep starting games at Raith whereas at a Kilmarnock or even a St Johnstone he could find himself on the bench which isn't what he'd be looking for at this stage in his career.

[Not In The Know]

A good move for him and the length of deal will have played a part in his move. However it’s telling that both Stevenson and Hanlon have moved to the championship. Seemingly Gray wanted to keep Hanlon, which worries me as to how ruthless he will be going forward.

I think you answer your own question. No chance he would be offered more than one year here.

[greenlex]

Yeah that was mentioned a few times. Seems unlikely it was ever actually on the table otherwise he'd not be dropping down a level.

Length of deal will have been the biggest factor in him going to Raith. 3yead deal versus say a one year at Killie or St Mirren. I don’t think it’s anything to do with where the clubs are.

[Greensunshine]

Poor decision to allow him to leave.

Not quite sure who made that decision but it’s a poor one in my opinion.

He would be a great squad player but much much more than that he would set good examples to new players coming into this great club and let them know what it means to play for Hibernian football club.

[EdinMike]

Raith are surely gonna smash the championship next year ?!

Unless Scott Browns Ayr surprises everyone !

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Poor decision to allow him to leave.

Not quite sure who made that decision but it’s a poor one in my opinion.

He would be a great squad player but much much more than that he would set good examples to new players coming into this great club and let them know what it means to play for Hibernian football club.

Per the last paragraph, SDG will take care of that.

[ian cruise]

Poor decision to allow him to leave.

Not quite sure who made that decision but it’s a poor one in my opinion.

He would be a great squad player but much much more than that he would set good examples to new players coming into this great club and let them know what it means to play for Hibernian football club.

It's only a poor decision if Paul Hanlon was open to a shorter contact with the knowledge he'd be unlikely to start. A three year contract with a better chance of being a first pick at Raith is potentially preferable to a year on the bench or in the stands at Hibs, even if he's a fan.

[Greenworld]

Poor decision to allow him to leave.

Not quite sure who made that decision but it’s a poor one in my opinion.

He would be a great squad player but much much more than that he would set good examples to new players coming into this great club and let them know what it means to play for Hibernian football club.Not really ,fans having crying for Paul's head for the last 2 seasons . He has just got a fantastic deal for his age from Raith . Gets to play with his best mate what's not to like .Paul is happy with the move and the time was right .

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[Since452]

Poor decision to allow him to leave.

Not quite sure who made that decision but it’s a poor one in my opinion.

He would be a great squad player but much much more than that he would set good examples to new players coming into this great club and let them know what it means to play for Hibernian football club.

He's not been good enough for a long time. He should have been moved on a few years ago. Raith Rovers is about his level these days. That will upset people but it's the truth.

[Broken Gnome]

He's not been good enough for a long time. He should have been moved on a few years ago. Raith Rovers is about his level these days. That will upset people but it's the truth.

How can that be true. Plenty of others would see him play perfectly well in near enough the majority of games he's featured in. How can he categorically not be good enough for Premiership football?

Give him 25 games over the season, he'd have a few very good games and some where he looked like time had caught up and he was exposed by forwards that could hurt him. He'd easily average out to 6 or 6.5 out of 10 for the year.

[greenpaper55]

How can that be true. Plenty of others would see him play perfectly well in near enough the majority of games he's featured in. How can he categorically not be good enough for Premiership football?

Give him 25 games over the season, he'd have a few very good games and some where he looked like time had caught up and he was exposed by forwards that could hurt him. He'd easily average out to 6 or 6.5 out of 10 for the year.

For all the Hanlon and Stevenson lovers on here a wee question, how is it if they were so good not one club in all the years tried to buy them ? For me they were at best mediocre and we will be a better team for them leaving.

[Broken Gnome]

For all the Hanlon and Stevenson lovers on here a wee question, how is it if they were so good not one club in all the years tried to buy them ? For me they were at best mediocre and we will be a better team for them leaving.I'm not saying I was a lover ability wise, and while I had a lot of time for Hanlon as we've lacked decent ball player centre halves of late I know fine well both can be improved on - can hardly not be the case for Stevenson as he's a bit part 36-year-old full back.

The argument that Hanlon isn't good enough for maintaining a decent career somewhere in this league is totally OTT though.

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[B.H.F.C]

How can that be true. Plenty of others would see him play perfectly well in near enough the majority of games he's featured in. How can he categorically not be good enough for Premiership football?

Give him 25 games over the season, he'd have a few very good games and some where he looked like time had caught up and he was exposed by forwards that could hurt him. He'd easily average out to 6 or 6.5 out of 10 for the year.

Your second paragraph sums it up fairly well for me. Which to me is the problem. Nobody is going to be good all the time but we need better than someone who is just going to be good some of the time.

[easty]

For all the Hanlon and Stevenson lovers on here a wee question, how is it if they were so good not one club in all the years tried to buy them ? For me they were at best mediocre and we will be a better team for them leaving.

I can't speak for all the "Hanlon and Stevenson lovers on here", but for me it's never been about them being "so good". I never thought they were EPL standard, but they were always solid SPL players (hence the Scottish cup and Scotland caps I suppose). Hundreds of players come and go at SPL level, coming from lower leagues, the English leagues, and further afield, and hundreds of them fail to cut it here.

Hanlon and Stevenson, in my opinion, got a harder time because they were consistently decent, rather than occasionally brilliant.

To call them "mediocre" is a ****ing joke, and quite frankly you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[Donegal Hibby]

For all the Hanlon and Stevenson lovers on here a wee question, how is it if they were so good not one club in all the years tried to buy them ? For me they were at best mediocre and we will be a better team for them leaving.

They were that mediocre one won both cups and the other won a Scottish cup :rolleyes:

[Chipper1875]

For all the Hanlon and Stevenson lovers on here a wee question, how is it if they were so good not one club in all the years tried to buy them ? For me they were at best mediocre and we will be a better team for them leaving.

Aberdeen tried for Paul. Others for Lewy .

Let’s not let the truth get In the way …

[Since452]

They were that mediocre one won both cups and the other won a Scottish cup :rolleyes:

They were also part of teams relegated and embarrassed on multiple occasions. They had long careers at one club. Plenty ups and downs along the way.

[Brightside]

He's not been good enough for a long time. He should have been moved on a few years ago. Raith Rovers is about his level these days. That will upset people but it's the truth.

Stop talking bollocks.

[Brightside]

For all the Hanlon and Stevenson lovers on here a wee question, how is it if they were so good not one club in all the years tried to buy them ? For me they were at best mediocre and we will be a better team for them leaving.

And again - Aberdeen made him an offer. More money than at Hibs. He stayed with us.

[Since452]

And again - Aberdeen made him an offer. More money than at Hibs. He stayed with us.

The mighty Aberdeen?

[Brightside]

They were also part of teams relegated and embarrassed on multiple occasions. They had long careers at one club. Plenty ups and downs along the way.

He was out injured when we got relegated. Any hibs fan would know that.

[Since452]

He was out injured when we got relegated. Any hibs fan would know that.

He made 28 appearance that season

[ElginHibbie]

He made 28 appearance that season

And we didn't win a game he didn't appear in

[Billy Whizz]

He was out injured when we got relegated. Any hibs fan would know that.

And Butcher wouldn’t let any of the injured players travel with the team, to give their support

[jeffers]

And again - Aberdeen made him an offer. More money than at Hibs. He stayed with us.

As well as a club down south.

[Donegal Hibby]

They were also part of teams relegated and embarrassed on multiple occasions. They had long careers at one club. Plenty ups and downs along the way.

Most players in our league outside the old firm have had plenty of downs in their careers though not all of them win any medals.

Both are Hibs legends and will always be so ....

[Since452]

Most players in our league outside the old firm have had plenty of downs in their careers though not all of them win any medals.

Both are Hibs legends and will always be so ....

Don't disagree. Any player that wins a trophy is a legend in my eyes.

[Chipper1875]

The mighty Aberdeen?

Who were better than us and were constantly in the top three

[NC1875]

And again - Aberdeen made him an offer. More money than at Hibs. He stayed with us.

That old myth. The Aberdeen “offer”.


I know a few of Paul’s mates, none of them ever knew anything about this Aberdeen offer, it’s good you do 👍🏼

[Bridge hibs]

That old myth. The Aberdeen “offer”.


I know a few of Paul’s mates, none of them ever knew anything about this Aberdeen offer, it’s good you do 👍🏼Really ?

By STV News
24 May 2016
Posted in Sport
Hibernian defender Paul Hanlon has held talks with Aberdeen over a summer move.

The 26-year-old's deal at Easter Road expires in the close season and the central defender has already held discussions with the Dons over joining the Pittodrie outfit.

Hibernian are keen to keep the player with Hanlon yet to make a decision on his future after helping the capital club claim their first Scottish Cup crown since 1902 following a 3-2 triumph over Rangers

And again

STV report the cup winning centre half is in talks with the Dons over a summer move to Pittodrie.
The 26-year-old has spent his entire career to date with the Edinburgh side but his contract expires this summer and Derek McInnes has reportedly targeted the former Scotland Under-21 captain as the man to strengthen the heart of his defence.
Hanlon was a key man for Alan Stubbs this season, making 44 appearances and scoring two goals.
After helping Hibs to Scottish Cup glory on Saturday, the defender said he had a decision to make but he hoped to sort out his future "over the next couple of weeks".

[NC1875]

Like i say, I know a few people that know Paul and from what I gather that was agent talk trying to get his client a better deal.

We’ll never know. Safe to say neither Paul or Lewis have been highly sought after in all there years at Hibs.

Two legends but definitely the right time for both to move on.

[Greensunshine]

He's not been good enough for a long time. He should have been moved on a few years ago. Raith Rovers is about his level these days. That will upset people but it's the truth.

The only one upset, seems to be you! Talking absolute bollox!

[greenpaper55]

I can't speak for all the "Hanlon and Stevenson lovers on here", but for me it's never been about them being "so good". I never thought they were EPL standard, but they were always solid SPL players (hence the Scottish cup and Scotland caps I suppose). Hundreds of players come and go at SPL level, coming from lower leagues, the English leagues, and further afield, and hundreds of them fail to cut it here.

Hanlon and Stevenson, in my opinion, got a harder time because they were consistently decent, rather than occasionally brilliant.

To call them "mediocre" is a ****ing joke, and quite frankly you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Then you have never seen a good defender in your life if you think that, an utter joke that they got so long a playing career at Hibs. I said mediocre at best and I stand and by that. Did you ever see John Parke play for us or Bobby Duncan or Shades or Brownlie ? These were true legends and not someone who just happened to last a long time.

[matty_f]

Aberdeen tried for Paul. Others for Lewy .

Let’s not let the truth get In the way …

Yeah, offers for both at various times in their career at Hibs.

[easty]

Then you have never seen a good defender in your life if you think that, an utter joke that they got so long a playing career at Hibs. I said mediocre at best and I stand and by that. Did you ever see John Parke play for us or Bobby Duncan or Shades or Brownlie ? These were true legends and not someone who just happened to last a long time.

Nah I didn't see them, they were before my time. Not that it makes any difference to my point though. Whatever, nae interest in debating it with someone who hasn't got a scooby anyway. You're clearly clueless.

[superfurryhibby]

Then you have never seen a good defender in your life if you think that, an utter joke that they got so long a playing career at Hibs. I said mediocre at best and I stand and by that. Did you ever see John Parke play for us or Bobby Duncan or Shades or Brownlie ? These were true legends and not someone who just happened to last a long time.

John Parke played for Hibs for one season. Bobby Duncan played 83 league games. Neither come close to Hanlon or Stevenson. Stop being silly.

[PHeffernan]

Then you have never seen a good defender in your life if you think that, an utter joke that they got so long a playing career at Hibs. I said mediocre at best and I stand and by that. Did you ever see John Parke play for us or Bobby Duncan or Shades or Brownlie ? These were true legends and not someone who just happened to last a long time.


Are you Ron Manager?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QExk5T02AH0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QExk5T02AH0)

[andrew70]

Yeah, offers for both at various times in their career at Hibs.

Stuart McCall wanted Stevenson when he was at Motherwell.

[scoopyboy]

Like i say, I know a few people that know Paul and from what I gather that was agent talk trying to get his client a better deal.

We’ll never know. Safe to say neither Paul or Lewis have been highly sought after in all there years at Hibs.

Two legends but definitely the right time for both to move on.

Paul didn't use an agent by that time, did his own negotiating.

[McD]

Really ?

By STV News
24 May 2016
Posted in Sport
Hibernian defender Paul Hanlon has held talks with Aberdeen over a summer move.

The 26-year-old's deal at Easter Road expires in the close season and the central defender has already held discussions with the Dons over joining the Pittodrie outfit.

Hibernian are keen to keep the player with Hanlon yet to make a decision on his future after helping the capital club claim their first Scottish Cup crown since 1902 following a 3-2 triumph over Rangers

And again

STV report the cup winning centre half is in talks with the Dons over a summer move to Pittodrie.
The 26-year-old has spent his entire career to date with the Edinburgh side but his contract expires this summer and Derek McInnes has reportedly targeted the former Scotland Under-21 captain as the man to strengthen the heart of his defence.
Hanlon was a key man for Alan Stubbs this season, making 44 appearances and scoring two goals.
After helping Hibs to Scottish Cup glory on Saturday, the defender said he had a decision to make but he hoped to sort out his future "over the next couple of weeks".


Like i say, I know a few people that know Paul and from what I gather that was agent talk trying to get his client a better deal.

We’ll never know. Safe to say neither Paul or Lewis have been highly sought after in all there years at Hibs.

Two legends but definitely the right time for both to move on.


There’s literally quotes from Paul himself in the article, but aye, you know someone who knows someone, they must know better :rolleyes:

[Brightside]

Like i say, I know a few people that know Paul and from what I gather that was agent talk trying to get his client a better deal.

We’ll never know. Safe to say neither Paul or Lewis have been highly sought after in all there years at Hibs.

Two legends but definitely the right time for both to move on.

I’ll take it from the player himself. Just like it’s clear he has multiple offers from prem clubs right now.

[KeithTheHibby]

I’ll take it from the player himself. Just like it’s clear he has multiple offers from prem clubs right now.

You think he has a chance to return to Hibs?

[sleeping giant]

Then you have never seen a good defender in your life if you think that, an utter joke that they got so long a playing career at Hibs. I said mediocre at best and I stand and by that. Did you ever see John Parke play for us or Bobby Duncan or Shades or Brownlie ? These were true legends and not someone who just happened to last a long time.

Wtf is wrong with people ? Why so horrible ?

[NC1875]

There’s literally quotes from Paul himself in the article, but aye, you know someone who knows someone, they must know better :rolleyes:

A quote saying he’ll look to sort his future out in the coming weeks. Hardly confirmation Aberdeen were even interested.

I’ve no reason to not believe what I was told. If Brightside knows Paul himself then fair enough but I see no reason why his mate would lie about it. 🤷🏽*♂️

He’s moved on now anyway and it was the right time to do so.

[Heisenberg]

Then you have never seen a good defender in your life if you think that, an utter joke that they got so long a playing career at Hibs. I said mediocre at best and I stand and by that. Did you ever see John Parke play for us or Bobby Duncan or Shades or Brownlie ? These were true legends and not someone who just happened to last a long time.

One of the worst posts I’ve ever read on here. Both Hanlon and Stevenson are undoubtedly Hibernian legends whether you like it or not.

[J-C]

Wtf is wrong with people ? Why so horrible ?

You do wonder if they're fans and why they come on here to Diss everything and anyone Hibs related, the hatred of all things Hibs is baffling at times.

[JimBHibees]

You do wonder if they're fans and why they come on here to Diss everything and anyone Hibs related, the hatred of all things Hibs is baffling at times.

Think the impact of these times and social media feel like an extreme opinion is required.

[Just Alf]

Think the impact of these times and social media feel like an extreme opinion is required.Probably, previously when folks came across anti-Hibs you could assume they were undercover jambos.

[Since452]

The only one upset, seems to be you! Talking absolute bollox!

I'm not the one having a hissy fit about someone having an opinion on a football forum 👍

[danhibees1875]

There’s literally quotes from Paul himself in the article, but aye, you know someone who knows someone, they must know better :rolleyes:

I've no skin in this game, but I know someone who had an article written about them with entirely made up quotes (he didn't talk to the press at all).

[JimBHibees]

Probably, previously when folks came across anti-Hibs you could assume they were undercover jambos.

Yes not so easy now though think definitely a few.

[Zorro]

Wtf is wrong with people ? Why so horrible ?

I was just thinking exactly the same. Grim stuff.

[Lago]

You do wonder if they're fans and why they come on here to Diss everything and anyone Hibs related, the hatred of all things Hibs is baffling at times.
Yeah getting pretty tired of it to be honest.

[Newhaven]

For all the Hanlon and Stevenson lovers on here a wee question, how is it if they were so good not one club in all the years tried to buy them ? For me they were at best mediocre and we will be a better team for them leaving.

Nail on the head. All the but he won two cups and scored an equaliser at tynie needs to be laid to one side for both players.

The bottom line is both played there part in multiple woeful displays and rarely galvanised Hibs when the chips were down. A well known scout for a rival SPL team often told his players to get at Lewis as he always had a mistake in him.

Great servants but were far to loyal as a fanbase so the best for all parties they moved on.

[easty]

Nail on the head. All the but he won two cups and scored an equaliser at tynie needs to be laid to one side for both players.

The bottom line is both played there part in multiple woeful displays and rarely galvanised Hibs when the chips were down. A well known scout for a rival SPL team often told his players to get at Lewis as he always had a mistake in him.

Great servants but were far to loyal as a fanbase so the best for all parties they moved on.

If you genuinely believe someone saying they were mediocre at best is hitting the nail on the head, then you’re just as clueless as him.

The irony of claiming we’re far too loyal a fan base while agreeing with that post is funny I suppose.

[JohnM1875]

Nail on the head. All the but he won two cups and scored an equaliser at tynie needs to be laid to one side for both players.

The bottom line is both played there part in multiple woeful displays and rarely galvanised Hibs when the chips were down. A well known scout for a rival SPL team often told his players to get at Lewis as he always had a mistake in him.

Great servants but were far to loyal as a fanbase so the best for all parties they moved on.

😂 ****ing hell

[stoneyburn hibs]

Yeah getting pretty tired of it to be honest.

It's not even subtle now.

[Donegal Hibby]

Nail on the head. All the but he won two cups and scored an equaliser at tynie needs to be laid to one side for both players.

Why on earth would we want to put the cup success of these players laid to one side ? Or a fantastic comeback against our rivals that helped us on our way in winning the cup ? .

Makes absolutely no sense , it should be remembered .

[MWHIBBIES]

Nail on the head. All the but he won two cups and scored an equaliser at tynie needs to be laid to one side for both players.

The bottom line is both played there part in multiple woeful displays and rarely galvanised Hibs when the chips were down. A well known scout for a rival SPL team often told his players to get at Lewis as he always had a mistake in him.

Great servants but were far to loyal as a fanbase so the best for all parties they moved on.

Name me 1 Hibs player, who was at the club for say, 10 years, who wasn't a part of many woeful, embarrassing results.

Lewis rarely had a mistake him in him. That scout is an idiot tbh. Poor at his job. He was never, ever, the most mistake prone player in any Hibs side he was in.

[Northernhibee]

Name me 1 Hibs player, who was at the club for say, 10 years, who wasn't a part of many woeful, embarrassing results.

Lewis rarely had a mistake him in him. That scout is an idiot tbh. Poor at his job. He was never, ever, the most mistake prone player in any Hibs side he was in.

If anything, he was remarkably consistent.

[Hiber-nation]

Lewis had "a mistake in him", utter pish, he was as consistent as you get. Both players "mediocre at best", where do you even start with garbage like that.

Hating Hibs so much is a bit weird.

[Unseen work]

Lewis had "a mistake in him", utter pish, he was as consistent as you get. Both players "mediocre at best", where do you even start with garbage like that.

Hating Hibs so much is a bit weird.

Yeah if there’s a player I’d describe as that it wouldn’t be Stevenson.

As reliable and consistent as they come

[Donegal Hibby]

Some of the stuff posted about two great servants of our club is bonkers .:rolleyes:

[fat freddy]

Some of the stuff posted about two great servants of our club is bonkers .:rolleyes:

It's beyond belief, extremely disrespectful to two club legends. I often wonder if the players read the stuff that's written about them on this forum.

[greenpaper55]

Some of the stuff posted about two great servants of our club is bonkers .:rolleyes:

Nah, you just don’t know mediocrity when its staring you in your face, it’s what’s been holding back the club for years.

[Shrekko]

Nah, you just don’t know mediocrity when its staring you in your face, it’s what’s been holding back the club for years.

Gaun tell us all what you do to not hold the club back- and we’ll all try it 👍

[Baader]

Tedious, disrespectful and boring. Getting stuck into two great servants of our club and cup winners isn't going to go down too well here...

Some folk must be absolutely outstanding at their jobs if that's "mediocrity." 🙄

[Donegal Hibby]

Nah, you just don’t know mediocrity when its staring you in your face, it’s what’s been holding back the club for years.

Both players were far from mediocre and have never held the club back ever ! . There commitment and dedication was something special. The vast majority of Hibs fans would tell you the exact same , I doubt there's many HIBS fans would share your opinion on this one quite frankly.

[Smartie]

“Targeting Lewis” was definitely a thing.

I used to love it when teams would target him because they generally got f all out of him and we’d win.

In the Championship especially I remember seeing him have to win a few headers early on… and dealing very well with them.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Wtf is wrong with people ? Why so horrible ?

must be a pretty joyless existence. Life isn’t about perfection. If that’s folks starting point they’re in for a shock. Mediocre indeed. Do folks hold themselves to impossibly high standards or is it just Hibs players? If we turn all our heroes and legends into sheeet then what do we have to celebrate? Maybe stop singing Glory Glory and paying homage to the Famous five and Tornadoes.

when folks demean our own players perhaps they need to ask themselves what separates them from a Jambo?

Roll on the new season

[K-Zazu]

Hanlon and Stevenson are Hibs legends, there is no doubt about that. But for me they should have been moved on a couple of years ago and replaced with better. The last few years has been garbage and they have had a big part in that.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Lewis had "a mistake in him", utter pish, he was as consistent as you get. Both players "mediocre at best", where do you even start with garbage like that.

Hating Hibs so much is a bit weird.

where do you start - being launched perhaps? :)

[007]

Gaun tell us all what you do to not hold the club back- and we’ll all try it 👍

You need to not accept mediocrity and the way to not accept mediocrity is to complain on an internet forum that those accepting mediocrity are the problem.

[Gmack7]

Has the 3 year deal been confirmed,?apologies if I missed it

[JimBHibees]

must be a pretty joyless existence. Life isn’t about perfection. If that’s folks starting point they’re in for a shock. Mediocre indeed. Do folks hold themselves to impossibly high standards or is it just Hibs players? If we turn all our heroes and legends into sheeet then what do we have to celebrate? Maybe stop singing Glory Glory and paying homage to the Famous five and Tornadoes.

when folks demean our own players perhaps they need to ask themselves what separates them from a Jambo?

Roll on the new season

Exactly either undercover yams or peculiarly self loathing people who say they support Hibs. Not sure which is worse. Very odd attention seeking or trolling

[McD]

Nail on the head. All the but he won two cups and scored an equaliser at tynie needs to be laid to one side for both players.

The bottom line is both played there part in multiple woeful displays and rarely galvanised Hibs when the chips were down. A well known scout for a rival SPL team often told his players to get at Lewis as he always had a mistake in him.

Great servants but were far to loyal as a fanbase so the best for all parties they moved on.



Aye that Messi, set aside his goals and trophies, and since he didn’t win every game he must have been pish. He’s totally wee as well, just put a big centre half on him and he’ll not do anything.


Ffs I hope you reread this and realise how full of nonsense your post is

[Brightside]

Has the 3 year deal been confirmed,?apologies if I missed it

Not yet. He's on holiday. Murray is very confident - but no signature quite yet.

[Eyrie]

You need to not accept mediocrity and the way to not accept mediocrity is to complain on an internet forum that those accepting mediocrity are the problem.

In which case I'd like to complain about mediocre posts making baseless claims in a bid to denigrate two capable and reliable long serving players who will be remembered fondly long after .net is no more.

[eastmainsmsh]

Not yet. He's on holiday. Murray is very confident - but no signature quite yet.

We should match or better the offer with coaching incentive Paul still has a lot to offer

[easty]

Hanlon and Stevenson are Hibs legends, there is no doubt about that. But for me they should have been moved on a couple of years ago and replaced with better. The last few years has been garbage and they have had a big part in that.

I don’t completely agree with you, I don’t think they’ve been garbage the last few years, but I can at least accept your point of view as it’s not entirely outrageous.

Posters saying they were mediocre at best are clowns.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Maybe we should have an Alexander ONeal award… ;)

27969

[SHODAN]

Yeah getting pretty tired of it to be honest.

Jealous they didn't win the cup and Hanlon/Stevenson did is my guess.

[Since452]

Hanlon and Stevenson are Hibs legends, there is no doubt about that. But for me they should have been moved on a couple of years ago and replaced with better. The last few years has been garbage and they have had a big part in that.

Seems to be a pretty unpopular opinion on here and one certain posters take massive offence to but it's one I agree with. His defending for Livingstons goal in literally our last game was something we've seen for too long with Hanlon. Great servant and will always be a legend for winning the cup but nowhere near good enough anymore. Exactly the reason he has been let go.

[supermcginn]

We should match or better the offer with coaching incentive Paul still has a lot to offer

No danger, our defence has been a laughing stock for years it's time for a fresh start at the back.

[CL0762]

Seems to be a pretty unpopular opinion on here and one certain posters take massive offence to but it's one I agree with. His defending for Livingstons goal in literally our last game was something we've seen for too long with Hanlon. Great servant and will always be a legend for winning the cup but nowhere near good enough anymore. Exactly the reason he has been let go.

Except it’s not exactly the reason he has been let go.

It’s his age that has seen him be let go, nothing to do with his defending.

[Blaster]

Seems to be a pretty unpopular opinion on here and one certain posters take massive offence to but it's one I agree with. His defending for Livingstons goal in literally our last game was something we've seen for too long with Hanlon. Great servant and will always be a legend for winning the cup but nowhere near good enough anymore. Exactly the reason he has been let go.

Whether he should have been let go or kept for another year is down to opinion. There is no right or wrong.

What worries me is he was still the best centre half we had. I really hope we have a minimum of 2 better centre backs coming in because Rocky, Harbottle and McLelland are not the answer.

[Big_Franck]

I wish Hanlon and Lewie all the best at Raith. This has been Hanlon's level for a couple of years now though and anyone could see that, so often our weak point. I'll keep an eye out for Raith's results now and hope they get promoted.

[erin go bragh]

Exactly, but there were other factors in him choosing Raith.

According to Ian Murray Hanlon is still weighing up his options and has more lucrative options available.

[Tambo]

Good luck with the move, seems a sensible one for himself and his family.

Do you think we would be able to squeeze in a pre season friendly? I'm sure a good few would go.

[matty_f]

I’ll take it from the player himself. Just like it’s clear he has multiple offers from prem clubs right now.

Fulham were also interested in Hanlon around 2011ish.

[Dashing Bob S]

Love them both, but absolutely delighted they’ve gone. It’s time we started looking forward.

[Bridge hibs]

Fulham were also interested in Hanlon around 2011ish.Yep

Fulham are tracking the progress of Celtic full-back Mark Wilson and Hibernian defender Paul Hanlon.

The English top-flight club were represented at Celtic Park on Saturday as the players' sides drew 0-0 in the Scottish Premier League.
Scotland Under-21 cap Hanlon has come through the youth ranks to become a regular and is contracted until 2016.

[MWHIBBIES]

No danger, our defence has been a laughing stock for years it's time for a fresh start at the back.

How many "years" has it been a laughing stock?

In the Ross and Ross/Maloney seasons it certainly wasn't. And Hanlon didn't play much last season. So, 1 year, under Johnson, it's been a bit messy, with Hanlon getting real minutes.

[supermcginn]

How many "years" has it been a laughing stock?

In the Ross and Ross/Maloney seasons it certainly wasn't. And Hanlon didn't play much last season. So, 1 year, under Johnson, it's been a bit messy, with Hanlon getting real minutes.

Well for example he played in Hibs teams that lost 6 goals to Motherwell, 7 to Malmö and 5 to hearts over ten years ago so quite a while.

[Smartie]

How many "years" has it been a laughing stock?

In the Ross and Ross/Maloney seasons it certainly wasn't. And Hanlon didn't play much last season. So, 1 year, under Johnson, it's been a bit messy, with Hanlon getting real minutes.

The defence was often decent enough under Johnson, certainly good enough to finish 5th and win a tough European tie against Luzern. Fish and Hanlon were very good together for half a season.

The first time the defence has been anything near shambolic was the season just gone, the first season in ages that we’ve not played Stevenson or Hanlon much.

[Chipper1875]

Yep

Fulham are tracking the progress of Celtic full-back Mark Wilson and Hibernian defender Paul Hanlon.

The English top-flight club were represented at Celtic Park on Saturday as the players' sides drew 0-0 in the Scottish Premier League.
Scotland Under-21 cap Hanlon has come through the youth ranks to become a regular and is contracted until 2016.

Posting the truth isn’t helpful. Don’t you know Paul
Is rubbish. All the managers that played him , so they could get sacked . Social
Media hibs fans are actually better than him
At fitba and better at managing than the managers that
Picked him.

[babahibs]

Posting the truth isn’t helpful. Don’t you know Paul
Is rubbish. All the managers that played him , so they could get sacked . Social
Media hibs fans are actually better than him
At fitba and better at managing than the managers that
Picked him.

I reckon about 6 pints at least

[CapitalGreen]

The defence was often decent enough under Johnson, certainly good enough to finish 5th and win a tough European tie against Luzern. Fish and Hanlon were very good together for half a season.

The first time the defence has been anything near shambolic was the season just gone, the first season in ages that we’ve not played Stevenson or Hanlon much.

It certainly was shambolic at times under Johnson. From mid October to el Sackio we conceded 32 goals in just 13 games, that period was worse than anything we saw under Monty. It coincidently aligned with period between Rocky’s 2 injuries. The only period we were worse defensively in my lifetime was the 2nd half of the season under Yogi.

We conceded 8 more goals last season than when we were relegated in 2014.