Manchester City

[Pagan Hibernia]

Man City launch legal action against Premier League over financial rules - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crggez4w209o)

I can't get my head around half the stuff that goes on with football south of the border these days.

[SHODAN]

Oh my god can City just **** off already

[DarlingtonHibee]

City taking the game to them. This will delay any potential punishment for years 🙄

[lugz]

Premier league eating itself from the inside.

[Bostonhibby]

City taking the game to them. This will delay any potential punishment for years [emoji849]In the soulless cash rich EPL those with richest influential owners have the brassiest necks.

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[Smartie]

I used to like City, a club bursting with character.

They've turned into the absolute epitome of everything I hate about football though and this move pretty much sums them up.

[I'm Spartacus]

I read this news today and I thought straight away "I hate Man City", the statement was absolutly shambolic.

It seems they will just tie everyone up in knots with money and legal debates throwing so much money at it.

Strip them of everything and punt them out the league, but they won't.

[Pretty Boy]

I feel sorry for the old school City fans.

It's just not their club anymore and whilst they must have enjoyed the success and rubbing their United mates noses in it over the last few years this surely can't be what they want from their club?

[hibsbollah]

I think everyone should just sue each other and the teams with the most expensive lawyers win in the end and then there would be no more leagues and other teams and City and PSG would then merge into one team and they could just play against themselves every week.

Monopoly capitalism is great.

[MWHIBBIES]

This is good news. They're screwed and they're lashing out. Will be easily handled. You can't do what city are doing in any form of business.

Still scares me people root for City. Utter simpletons. They are evil.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I feel sorry for the old school City fans.

It's just not their club anymore and whilst they must have enjoyed the success and rubbing their United mates noses in it over the last few years this surely can't be what they want from their club?

I wouldn't be sure of that. Not while they still see themselves as romantic rebels waging war against the 'establishment' clubs like United, Liverpool, and Arsenal.

[MWHIBBIES]

I read this news today and I thought straight away "I hate Man City", the statement was absolutly shambolic.

It seems they will just tie everyone up in knots with money and legal debates throwing so much money at it.

Strip them of everything and punt them out the league, but they won't.

Oh they absolutely will. If City could've made a deal, they wouldn't be doing this. If they couldve got away with a 20 point deduction or something they'd have taken it.

League 2 I'd imagine. The pressure from the actual big clubs is too much.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Whilst I have no real ill will towards City, it would be refreshing if they were found guilty of multiple charges to be jettisoned into League 2 or below and stripped off their titles.

All these rules in place seem to be easily avoided with a few loopholes.

It still angers me to this day how lightly the old Rangers were treated. Our own governing body were keen for them to remain as high up the pyramid as possible to ensure the blue pound remained strong. Cheating is cheating and cheats should be dealt with an iron fist.

[greenlex]

Man City. The Donald Trump of football.

[The Modfather]

This is good news. They're screwed and they're lashing out. Will be easily handled. You can't do what city are doing in any form of business.

Still scares me people root for City. Utter simpletons. They are evil.

Day to day I can’t say I ever think about the Man City owners when watching Man City or who they sign. I think of Man City as just another super rich club, like Man U, Barcelona, Real Madrid etc. Who spend obscene amounts putting squads together. With Man City and Real spending their money better than most.

There’s an interesting debate to be had about sports washing, however I’d suspect most people don’t give the Man City owners a second thought when it comes to Halland, Pep, trebles etc. Far less have a more positive opinion on the owners than they previously did because they’ve spent well and brought success. I suppose there is an element of normalising in simply equating their name with Man City’s success. Although most folk will an also be more aware of their crimes and behaviour directly as a result of being in the Man City spotlight than before they were owners, that’s certainly the case for myself.

[Hibs90]

Isn't what City have done, in terms of spending huge sums of money, essentially the same thing that Liverpool, Chelsea, United, Arsenal and Madrid, Barca etc have done in the past? It's just now there are different rules/regulations and everything is of course inflated compared to the 90's/00's etc. Not sure I've made my point.

Other clubs have spent ridiculous amounts of money to build squads too and found ways to circumvent rules at that time point by investing.

[MWHIBBIES]

Isn't what City have done, in terms of spending huge sums of money, essentially the same thing that Liverpool, Chelsea, United, Arsenal and Madrid, Barca etc have done in the past? It's just now there are different rules/regulations and everything is of course inflated compared to the 90's/00's etc. Not sure I've made my point.

Other clubs have spent ridiculous amounts of money to build squads too and found ways to circumvent rules at that time point by investing.
No. It's nothing to do with the amount of money. It's making up fake sponsors that lead back to their owners, that enable them to spend more. It's cheating.

[MWHIBBIES]

Day to day I can’t say I ever think about the Man City owners when watching Man City or who they sign. I think of Man City as just another super rich club, like Man U, Barcelona, Real Madrid etc. Who spend obscene amounts putting squads together. With Man City and Real spending their money better than most.

There’s an interesting debate to be had about sports washing, however I’d suspect most people don’t give the Man City owners a second thought when it comes to Halland, Pep, trebles etc. Far less have a more positive opinion on the owners than they previously did because they’ve spent well and brought success. I suppose there is an element of normalising in simply equating their name with Man City’s success. Although most folk will an also be more aware of their crimes and behaviour directly as a result of being in the Man City spotlight than before they were owners, that’s certainly the case for myself.


It's a lot easier to spend well when you do not publish accurate accounts. You genuinely think Haaland was 60 million and 300k a week? No chance. They literally bought Peps brother a club to keep him happy.

[Scottie]

No. It's nothing to do with the amount of money. It's making up fake sponsors that lead back to their owners, that enable them to spend more. It's cheating.
Bang on. City are corrupt to the core now. The halcyon misty eyed days of the stalwart supporters are far gone now. I hope they get everything that's coming to them & more.

[HibbyAndy]

Bang on. City are corrupt to the core now. The halcyon misty eyed days of the stalwart supporters are far gone now. I hope they get everything that's coming to them & more.

:agree:

Get the cheating ***** relegated !

[McD]

It's a lot easier to spend well when you do not publish accurate accounts. You genuinely think Haaland was 60 million and 300k a week? No chance. They literally bought Peps brother a club to keep him happy.


:agree:


Spending well “on paper” - they’ve been manipulating their figures for years. Pep has spent around a billion pounds since he went there, and that without looking under the surface like the Haaland deal you’ve highlighted. That’s not spending well, that’s just throwing money about - want a centre back? Let’s sign 3, all over 50m each. Over 100 on right backs. 300 million on wingers. 100 million on Grealish, 50m on kalvin Phillips.


Any given deal doesn’t really stand out much, but the sheer volume of them

[whiskyhibby]

Man City launch legal action against Premier League over financial rules - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crggez4w209o)

I can't get my head around half the stuff that goes on with football south of the border these days.


Cant blame them, they have had this charge hanging over them for a while now, which tarnishes their reputation ( irrespective of whether or not the charges are sound), so I guess it’s a fingers up to the EPL, piss in the pot, or move on……

[Since90+2]

Is this not completely seperate to the charges they are going through? Pretty sure I heard that on Talksport.

I think this is City claiming something along the lines of Gulf states being discriminated against and the charges are related to FFP.

Not that I'm defending City at all btw. As has been mentioned they seem a soulless corporate entity.

[The Modfather]

:agree:


Spending well “on paper” - they’ve been manipulating their figures for years. Pep has spent around a billion pounds since he went there, and that without looking under the surface like the Haaland deal you’ve highlighted. That’s not spending well, that’s just throwing money about - want a centre back? Let’s sign 3, all over 50m each. Over 100 on right backs. 300 million on wingers. 100 million on Grealish, 50m on kalvin Phillips.


Any given deal doesn’t really stand out much, but the sheer volume of them

I’m not sure you can argue they haven’t spent well. I can’t remember if it’s over the last 10 years or during Pep’s tenure but Man U have spent more than City. Man U, Chelsea and at the other end of the market, Hibs, all show that money alone doesn’t buy success. How you spend it is as important as how much you spend.

[Since90+2]

I’m not sure you can argue they haven’t spent well. I can’t remember if it’s over the last 10 years or during Pep’s tenure but Man U have spent more than City. Man U, Chelsea and at the other end of the market, Hibs, all show that money alone doesn’t buy success. How you spend it is as important as how much you spend.

Agreed.

On the whole they've spent well, they simply wouldn't have won 4 Premier League titles in a row plus the Champions League if they hadn't.

[Joe6-2]

I used to like City, a club bursting with character.

They've turned into the absolute epitome of everything I hate about football though and this move pretty much sums them up.

Exactly how I feel about them

[Fratelli]

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Whilst I have no real ill will towards City, it would be refreshing if they were found guilty of multiple charges to be jettisoned into League 2 or below and stripped off their titles.

All these rules in place seem to be easily avoided with a few loopholes.

It still angers me to this day how lightly the old Rangers were treated. Our own governing body were keen for them to remain as high up the pyramid as possible to ensure the blue pound remained strong. Cheating is cheating and cheats should be dealt with an iron fist.
This 💯 - compare the widespread uproar in England to the way it was kept relatively quiet by our spineless and compliant media here in Scotland and our footballing authorities. Biggest sporting scandal ever in Scotland and even now, the Huns and The Rangers play the ‘victim’ card.

[MWHIBBIES]

https://x.com/SamJDean/status/1798356965988634782

Perfectly legit.

[LancsHibs]

I used to like City, a club bursting with character.

They've turned into the absolute epitome of everything I hate about football though and this move pretty much sums them up.

This 100%

[Eyrie]

The Man City chairman was quoted today as being frustrated by the constant references to the charges.

If only they'd co-operated with the enquiry then half the charges wouldn't exist and it would all have long since blown over. Can't think why they preferred to obstruct instead ...

[InvertedFullBak]

Not a lot of love for City on here but the looks of it ??

I’ve supported city for going on 25 years now. Through the dark days and especially now through the glory days which I hope continue for many years to come.

This has trundled on for far too long now and I personally wish it’ll sort itself out sooner rather than later.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not a lot of love for City on here but the looks of it ??

I’ve supported city for going on 25 years now. Through the dark days and especially now through the glory days which I hope continue for many years to come.

This has trundled on for far too long now and I personally wish it’ll sort itself out sooner rather than later.

City are making it trundle on mate. They have a dream team of lawyers fighting every charge.

Utterly vile club.

[InvertedFullBak]

City are making it trundle on mate. They have a dream team of lawyers fighting every charge.

Utterly vile club.


Have they shat in your weetabix or something ? Calling them a vile club is hilarious.

Heres me though being an evil simpleton putting my point across. That’s the best bit.

[MWHIBBIES]

Have they shat in your weetabix or something ? Calling them a vile club is hilarious.

Don't give daft replies like that. Even Stevie wonder can see what an utterly vile club they are now.

Not happy enough with having ownership like they do, some of the most evil ****ers on this earth, they have been cheating for years.

Try and actually defend their owners and the 115 charges. Go on.

[InvertedFullBak]

Don't give daft replies like that. Even Stevie wonder can see what an utterly vile club they are now.

Not happy enough with having ownership like they do, some of the most evil ****ers on this earth, they have been cheating for years.


An utterly vile club. They definitely shat in your weetabix. :aok::aok::aok::aok:

If they get away with it and all charges are dropped , I’m sure you’ll be self combusting and frothing at the mouth when the news breaks.

[SHODAN]

Have they shat in your weetabix or something ? Calling them a vile club is hilarious.

Heres me though being an evil simpleton putting my point across. That’s the best bit.

Each to their own but I stopped supporting Newcastle when they were turned into a KSA sportswashing vehicle. It's a similar situation with City.

[MWHIBBIES]

Correct me if I’m wrong but you did reply.

An utterly vile club. They definitely shat in your weetabix. :aok::aok::aok::aok:

No. I just have a backbone, and I'm some sportswash clapping seal.

[hibsbollah]

I cant stand Ronay’s overblown metaphors sometimes. But this article is spot on.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/05/manchester-citys-trumpian-tactics-spotlight-autocratic-creep-in-football

[InvertedFullBak]

No. I just have a backbone, and I'm some sportswash clapping seal.


Well done for having a backbone. You get a blue Peter badge for that.

[MWHIBBIES]

Well done for having a backbone. You get a blue Peter badge for that.

Please. Defend them. I'm all ears. Let's go.

[InvertedFullBak]

Each to their own but I stopped supporting Newcastle when they were turned into a KSA sportswashing vehicle. It's a similar situation with City.


Unfortunately it’s part of life with football clubs I’m afraid. The days of guys like Tom farmer owing the local club are now gone. The big players over the world want in on the action. Not just football but tennis , boxing and golf also.

if Hibs were to go down the same road I don’t think we’d be having many complaints if we were winning every week and being handed out when the trophies were being handed out.

[MWHIBBIES]

Unfortunately it’s part of life with football clubs I’m afraid. The days of guys like Tom farmer owing the local club are now gone. The big players over the world want in on the action. Not just football but tennis , boxing and golf also.

if Hibs were to go down the same road I don’t think we’d be having many complaints if we were winning every week and being handed out when the trophies were being handed out.

No no. There's a difference between foreign ownership (like Hibs) and human rights violating monsters (Man City) or chopping up journalists(Newcastle)

[InvertedFullBak]

No no. There's a difference between foreign ownership (like Hibs) and human rights violating monsters (Man City) or chopping up journalists(Newcastle)


If a bunch of Arabs rocked up at Easter road with a bag of money to buy the club and a few years down the line we were winning trophies a lot of the time you wouldn’t be complaining. Do not even kid yourself that you’d take the moral high ground

[MWHIBBIES]

If a bunch of Arabs rocked up at Easter road with a bag of money to buy the club and a few years down the line we were winning trophies a lot of the time you wouldn’t be complaining. Do not even kid yourself that you’d take the moral high ground

I promise you, I would never attend another Hibs match until they had left. Nothing kidding about it. That's my morals, that's it.

I could not look my girlfriend, my gay, trans and bisexual friends, in the eye, while supporting a regime that oppresses them. Some things are more important than football.

Also, did you seriously just say "a bunch of Arabs"?

[Hibs4185]

Even Liam Gallagher said he can’t be arsed going to watch them nowadays.

Don’t have anything against them to be honest but I do hope they get what’s coming to them and this case gets chucked out

[InvertedFullBak]

I promise you, I would never attend another Hibs match until they had left. Nothing kidding about it. That's my morals, that's it.

I could not look my girlfriend, my gay, trans and bisexual friends, in the eye, while supporting a regime that oppresses them. Some things are more important than football.

Also, did you seriously just say "a bunch of Arabs"?


Away and play in the traffic. There’s no chance that you’d never attend a Hibs game ever again. Utter nonsense. You’d be dining in the glory like the rest of us and do not kid yourself that you wouldn’t.


Ok then let’s rephrase that , a group of rich Arabs with a big bag of money.

[MWHIBBIES]

Away and play in the traffic. There’s no chance that you’d never attend a Hibs game ever again. Utter nonsense. You’d be dining in the glory like the rest of us and do not kid yourself that you wouldn’t.


Ok then let’s rephrase that , a group of rich Arabs with a big bag of money.

That hard to believe I wouldn't fund oppression for a few cups? I ****ing promise you, I would never go to another match. No kidding myself at all. It's the truth.

[InvertedFullBak]

I promise you, I would never attend another Hibs match until they had left. Nothing kidding about it. That's my morals, that's it.

I could not look my girlfriend, my gay, trans and bisexual friends, in the eye, while supporting a regime that oppresses them. Some things are more important than football.

Also, did you seriously just say "a bunch of Arabs"?


Also on that note , we are owned by Americans and in America they are some states who have repealed the laws which give the women the control over their own reproductive rights and have worrying archaic views on towards LGBT+ communities with some of these states removing rights for the LGBT community.

Now if that’s your moral viewpoint then you’ll no doubt be handing back your season ticket in the very near future.

[MWHIBBIES]

Also on that note , we are owned by Americans and in America they are some states who have repealed the laws which give the women the control over their own reproductive rights and have worrying archaic views on towards LGBT+ communities with some of these states removing rights for the LGBT community.

Now if that’s your moral viewpoint then you’ll no doubt be handing back your season ticket in the very near future.

Is this a windup? You do understand the difference between state ownership and a person from America owning Hibs?

Man City are owned by a royal and politician. A royal family that has overseen centuries of oppression.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I’d have Colonel Gaddafi in charge at Hibs if it meant we could win the league to be honest.

[McD]

Is this a windup? You do understand the difference between state ownership and a person from America owning Hibs?

Man City are owned by a royal and politician. A royal family that has overseen centuries of oppression.


He’s trolling mate


I totally agree with your position on this

[InvertedFullBak]

Is this a windup? You do understand the difference between state ownership and a person from America owning Hibs?

Man City are owned by a royal and politician. A royal family that has overseen centuries of oppression.

Not every rich arab from the Middle East is a member of the royal family or connected to the state.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not every rich arab from the Middle East is a member of the royal family or connected to the state.

Yes, that's why I'm not lumping all "Arabs" as you continue to call them, into one bunch.

[Bostonhibby]

Is this a windup? You do understand the difference between state ownership and a person from America owning Hibs?

Man City are owned by a royal and politician. A royal family that has overseen centuries of oppression.[emoji106]You're not wrong there.

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[hibsbollah]

Not every rich arab from the Middle East is a member of the royal family or connected to the state.

Having a ‘mare here.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Not a lot of love for City on here but the looks of it ??

I’ve supported city for going on 25 years now. Through the dark days and especially now through the glory days which I hope continue for many years to come.

This has trundled on for far too long now and I personally wish it’ll sort itself out sooner rather than later.

Fair play but I hear this a lot.

A lot of city fans seem to think they're entitled to sympathy from the public because they watched their team in the third tier in the 90s. Or something.

They're hardly the only set of fans to have seen bad times. And why does that mean a blind eye should be turned to what's going on now?

[blackpoolhibs]

Unfortunately it’s part of life with football clubs I’m afraid. The days of guys like Tom farmer owing the local club are now gone. The big players over the world want in on the action. Not just football but tennis , boxing and golf also.

if Hibs were to go down the same road I don’t think we’d be having many complaints if we were winning every week and being handed out when the trophies were being handed out.

Exactly, those with their backbone would probably leave, but we'd replace them tenfold with glory hunters like me. :faf:

[Fratelli]

Just for info, The Sunday Times is free to read this weekend - just read 3 brilliant articles on the Man City/Pemier League ‘civil war!’

Just a pity this high quality, investigative journalism wasn’t around in Scotland when the original Rangers were cheating and avoiding taxes - they, our media and our useless and compliant administrators would have been outed as corrupt and complicit.

[One Day]

Premier league eating itself from the inside.

I'd love to see that happen and the whole lot come crashing down