ST sales

[AugustaHibs]

Does anybody have an up to date figure of how many have been sold so far,

[.Sean.]

No idea, but seen last night Hibs are now offering the new BTG offering as a £250 add-on for season ticket holders (after chucking out all existing season holders in the area who didn’t want to part with £800 for the sole benefit of access to a bar)

They’ve got a cheek saying it’s ‘selling fast’ aswell btw, as going by the ticketing site they’ve sold about 30/40 seats in what is now the executive block

[Alfred E Newman]

Does anybody have an up to date figure of how many have been sold so far,

My guess would be poor. Maybe when they actually get round to appointing a manager they might pick up.

[TheGog]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

[Allant1981]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

there was a post on here back in March saying keiran power said we were at about 9k

[Gatecrasher]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

Not surprising to be honest, the club have been riding on an upturn in STHs since 2016 and we've been subjected to years of absolute ***** since. It was only a matter of time there would be a drop off.

[marinello59]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

I doubt it’s that low.

[Mrimbetween]

New manager and players in should add a right few.. reckon well over 11k by the time season starts

[davhibby]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

A two second look at the seat map and it’s obviously much more than that. The issue for hibs is that we won’t sell any more than we have already without positive things happening over the next 2 months.

[DIXIHIBS]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

Heard from who...kickback? Probably 9k plus at the moment.

[04Sauzee]

Not surprising to be honest, the club have been riding on an upturn in STHs since 2016 and we've been subjected to years of absolute ***** since. It was only a matter of time there would be a drop off.

You wouldn't be surprised if it was only 4k??

[Bridge hibs]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

As **** as we have been absolutely no chance its 4k

3k maybe 😁

[Gatecrasher]

You wouldn't be surprised if it was only 4k??

I wouldn't be surprised if theres a massive drop off. 4k maybe exaggerated though.

[brianmc]

there was a post on here back in March saying keiran power said we were at about 9k

I think you're referring to a post of mine.

I'd asked KP the question on the Bounce and 9k was his answer back then.

I'd be amazed if we'd dropped 5k since then......

Or, if he was lying.

[brianmc]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

Where did you hear this?

[Brightside]

4K 😂😂😂. Just make sure you buy your own. That’s all you can do.

[Ringothedog]

Looking online I would guess at nearly 10k

[Paul1642]

How many did we sell last season?

[Alex Trager]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

😂

[Brooster]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

Some folk will believe anything.

[Gmack7]

Some folk will believe anything.

Wait, are you saying it's more than 4K, hallelujah

[eastterrace]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k Think you are a wee tad out as heard it’s about 1,500 😉

[One Day]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

Was reported on here to be around 9000 back in March / April

[GloryGlory]

Heard at the start of the month it wasn’t even 4k

Was that from a Jambo fan?

[SickBoy32]

Does anybody have an up to date figure of how many have been sold so far,

10-10.5k was what the ticket office said before the Motherwell game at ER

[Callum_62]

No idea, but seen last night Hibs are now offering the new BTG offering as a £250 add-on for season ticket holders (after chucking out all existing season holders in the area who didn’t want to part with £800 for the sole benefit of access to a bar)

They’ve got a cheek saying it’s ‘selling fast’ aswell btw, as going by the ticketing site they’ve sold about 30/40 seats in what is now the executive block

Standard marketing talk no?

The Albion bar is sold out for 24/25- id be very surprised if BTG isn't too

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[.Sean.]

Standard marketing talk no?

The Albion bar is sold out for 24/25- id be very surprised if BTG isn't too

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Well either way it’s clearly not selling as fast as they’d initially hoped considering the new BTG was originally solely for folk who would spend £800 on the season ticket/ BTG access package.

They are now ‘offering’ it as an add-on to all season ticket holders as they’ve sold about 10% of the available tickets in that block as clearly the initial brainfart of an idea they had wasn’t very appealing.

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[Callum_62]

Well either way it’s clearly not selling as fast as they’d initially hoped considering the new BTG was originally solely for folk who would spend £800 on the season ticket/ BTG access package.

They are now ‘offering’ it as an add-on to all season ticket holders as they’ve sold about 10% of the available tickets in that block as clearly the initial brainfart of an idea they had wasn’t very appealing.

27919Id imagine the plan was always to offer it as an add on

I don't think that block holds enough to sell it out?

I don't know but how do the exec seats work in the West?

Are they also linked to the Albion bar or some kind of hospitality or can you buy them just as a seat?

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[Not In The Know]

Well either way it’s clearly not selling as fast as they’d initially hoped considering the new BTG was originally solely for folk who would spend £800 on the season ticket/ BTG access package.

They are now ‘offering’ it as an add-on to all season ticket holders as they’ve sold about 10% of the available tickets in that block as clearly the initial brainfart of an idea they had wasn’t very appealing.

27919


The plan was to always offer top up and individual matches for Pay as you go.


OBVS they will push the £800 tickets first. It really annoys me folk having a dig at the club for having common sense business acumen.


Make a total mess of the football side - thats fair game!!

[Brightside]

Id imagine the plan was always to offer it as an add on

I don't think that block holds enough to sell it out?

I don't know but how do the exec seats work in the West?

Are they also linked to the Albion bar or some kind of hospitality or can you buy them just as a seat?

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Same as BTG. 250 if you stick with your current seat. Most do. 800 if you want an exec seat .

[Godsahibby]

The plan was to always offer top up and individual matches for Pay as you go.


OBVS they will push the £800 tickets first. It really annoys me folk having a dig at the club for having common sense business acumen.


Make a total mess of the football side - thats fair game!!

Do you not get some sort of warning / infraction for talking sense on here?

[marinello59]

Do you not get some sort of warning / infraction for talking sense on here?

It’s not really been a major problem. :greengrin

[Hibernian Verse]

Well either way it’s clearly not selling as fast as they’d initially hoped considering the new BTG was originally solely for folk who would spend £800 on the season ticket/ BTG access package.

They are now ‘offering’ it as an add-on to all season ticket holders as they’ve sold about 10% of the available tickets in that block as clearly the initial brainfart of an idea they had wasn’t very appealing.

27919

The uptake for the standing section is ***** as well.

[Col2]

I renewed right at the beginning. However if I hadn’t, right here right now would I be renewing? Not so sure. Securing my good seat for son and I is the only current motive.

[Brightside]

The uptake for the standing section is ***** as well.

A standing section that all the support wanted? Very odd.

[.Sean.]

A standing section that all the support wanted? Very odd.
I wonder why

[Allant1981]

I think you're referring to a post of mine.

I'd asked KP the question on the Bounce and 9k was his answer back then.

I'd be amazed if we'd dropped 5k since then......

Or, if he was lying.

Glad to see my memory isn't gone yet!!

[Brooster]

Like it or not, people who were considering buying season tickets more recently might be pretty underwhelmed by the situation at the club, the introduction of McKay and his record of racist tweets, and the likely inexperienced choice of manager in David Gray. Hope I'm wrong. And before anybody asks, I got my ST ages ago.

Racist tweets? I knew he sent inappropriate private messages to a mate who then dobbed him in it but didn't realise he was tweeting.

[Wilson]

Like it or not, people who were considering buying season tickets more recently might be pretty underwhelmed by the situation at the club, the introduction of McKay and his record of racist tweets, and the likely inexperienced choice of manager in David Gray. Hope I'm wrong. And before anybody asks, I got my ST ages ago.

I think we can expect a downturn after a prolonged period of being rubbish. If we were better STs would be selling faster. It really is simple.

[Since452]

If we stop losing more games than we win we'll sell more season tickets.

[.Sean.]

Like it or not, people who were considering buying season tickets more recently might be pretty underwhelmed by the situation at the club, the introduction of McKay and his record of racist tweets, and the likely inexperienced choice of manager in David Gray. Hope I'm wrong. And before anybody asks, I got my ST ages ago.
Numerous incidents involving players abusing/ stalking/ threatening/ terrorising women, battering Elvis impersonators/ generally being complete and utter fannies/ players on the ching/ players done for drink driving etc etc = we’ll that slide

Sending what should have been a private, poorly judged, bad taste message to your pal = nah no having that though that’s the worst out the lot of them, so bad it’s seen thousands no renew their season tickets

Aye ok then

[Victor]

Like it or not, people who were considering buying season tickets more recently might be pretty underwhelmed by the situation at the club, the introduction of McKay and his record of racist tweets, and the likely inexperienced choice of manager in David Gray. Hope I'm wrong. And before anybody asks, I got my ST ages ago.

Yes, you are wrong.


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[Groathillgrump]

Like it or not, people who were considering buying season tickets more recently might be pretty underwhelmed by the situation at the club, the introduction of McKay and his record of racist tweets, and the likely inexperienced choice of manager in David Gray. Hope I'm wrong. And before anybody asks, I got my ST ages ago.

I suspect you could count the number of people who won't buy a season ticket because of Malky McKay on one finger.

[RIP]

A standing section that all the support wanted? Very odd.

The Standing Section that some online supporters wanted other people to occupy. As far as I'm aware, the club didnt survey asking who would buy a season ticket in that area?

Will be interesting to see which standing section is more populated at the start of next season.

[Bridge hibs]

The Standing Section that some online supporters wanted other people to occupy. As far as I'm aware, the club didnt survey asking who would buy a season ticket in that area?

Will be interesting to see which standing section is more populated at the start of next season.I think it will depend on how the team are doing, if we are playing well it could be a great place to be, if we are playing **** then it will be empty

[EGL2000]

The Standing Section that some online supporters wanted other people to occupy. As far as I'm aware, the club didnt survey asking who would buy a season ticket in that area?

Will be interesting to see which standing section is more populated at the start of next season.

There was definitely a survey fairy recently that asked if fans wanted it and it was an overwhelming yes.

[Sioux]

There was definitely a survey fairy recently that asked if fans wanted it and it was an overwhelming yes.

As with most polls, responses are usually BS and made without any logical thought process.

[.Sean.]

A standing section that all the support wanted? Very odd.
Also on this point I think it’s clear that plenty folk myself and others I know included won’t be bothering with the standing section unfortunately because they can’t be arsed with Block Seven and we all know they’ll be commandeering it and claiming it as their own

[HFC93]

Like it or not, people who were considering buying season tickets more recently might be pretty underwhelmed by the situation at the club, the introduction of McKay and his record of racist tweets, and the likely inexperienced choice of manager in David Gray. Hope I'm wrong. And before anybody asks, I got my ST ages ago.Grateful if you could point me towards evidence of Malky Mackay's racist tweets? I'll be waiting a long times as you've just made that up.

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[stuart-farquhar]

There was definitely a survey fairy recently that asked if fans wanted it and it was an overwhelming yes.

Personally don't believe in fairies.

[Trinity Hibee]

Also on this point I think it’s clear that plenty folk myself and others I know included won’t be bothering with the standing section unfortunately because they can’t be arsed with Block Seven and we all know they’ll be commandeering it and claiming it as their own

Agreed. I’d have been keen on a standing area but not if it means being in amongst that lot

[Hibees1973]

I think it will depend on how the team are doing, if we are playing well it could be a great place to be, if we are playing **** then it will be empty

Going to be empty for some time then with the flumps currently running things at Hibs.

[ekhibee]

Grateful if you could point me towards evidence of Malky Mackay's racist tweets? I'll be waiting a long times as you've just made that up.

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I stand corrected, they were text messages.

If he hadn't made those remarks, in whatever media it was, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Maybe you won't have to wait so long now.

[Brooster]

I stand corrected, they were text messages.

If he hadn't made those remarks, in whatever media it was, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Maybe you won't have to wait so long now.

As suspected.....you made it up for dramatic effect.

[joe breezy]

Standard marketing talk no?

The Albion bar is sold out for 24/25- id be very surprised if BTG isn't too

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FF exec / BTG although it has nice seats is right above the twats with a drum so it’s not gonna be great

Also people were used to paying £400 there

If you look at the dots on the seating plan they’ve sold hardly any seats in that section


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[Callum_62]

FF exec / BTG although it has nice seats is right above the twats with a drum so it’s not gonna be great

Also people were used to paying £400 there

If you look at the dots on the seating plan they’ve sold hardly any seats in that section


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkId still be surprised if it doesn't go on to sell out like the Albion bar

I'm not sure if other exec seats are inclusive of hospitality or you can still buy them without?

They've obviously tried to tie it to BTG and pricing wise I think it's likely something like this

£450 for gold season ticket
£250 behind the goals access (with exec you get a few added extras like half time access and an allocated table)
£100 extra cost of having a fancy seat

I don't see it as extortion really? Ofcourse for folk who wanted a "posh seat" without the lounge access it's unfortunate but they could just move a few rows along and save themselves quite a bit of change

I might be wrong here but I don't imagine having the drum in the lower tier will make any odds to folk in the upper?

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[lucky]

ST sales will pick up as the season approaches. At this time most fans are on a downer with regards to Hibs. We've got a crap team, no manager and a CEO who is clueless with regards to football. As the season gets closer and a couple of signings get announced the excitement and anticipation builds. I still think we will sell over 12000 ST

[ekhibee]

As suspected.....you made it up for dramatic effect.

Sorry, but that's just not true, however I have deleted the original post in any case, as I incorrectly used the word tweets instead of texts. If I'd done it for dramatic effect then i certainly wouldn't have put that I hope I'm wrong at the end of it.

[joe breezy]

Id still be surprised if it doesn't go on to sell out like the Albion bar

I'm not sure if other exec seats are inclusive of hospitality or you can still buy them without?

They've obviously tried to tie it to BTG and pricing wise I think it's likely something like this

£450 for gold season ticket
£250 behind the goals access (with exec you get a few added extras like half time access and an allocated table)
£100 extra cost of having a fancy seat

I don't see it as extortion really? Ofcourse for folk who wanted a "posh seat" without the lounge access it's unfortunate but they could just move a few rows along and save themselves quite a bit of change

I might be wrong here but I don't imagine having the drum in the lower tier will make any odds to folk in the upper?

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I found it nippy when they were below us for the hun game but not as nippy as Hibs' performance - a few people have mentioned it putting them off

It's £800 for the FF Upper Exec ST - so it is a big increase albeit on a par with the west upper exec

[PHeffernan]

Suspect we have sold 10,000 season tickets too date to the usual suspects.
Another 1000 regulars will sign up before the season starts.
The real question is how many more newbies can we can pick up. I'm going for 300.
So 1300 folk still to sign up in the next 2 months including 500 in the last 10 days before league kick off.
11,300 total

[Callum_62]

Anyone with an updated figure?

FF upper looking much better and they've either stopped selling or have sold out of "behind the goals" STs?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240701/ccb1a273c83647629ecb9718b65ea7dd.jpg

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[linlithgowhibbie]

Anyone with an updated figure?

FF upper looking much better and they've either stopped selling or have sold out of "behind the goals" STs?

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I reckon they cannot shift anymore at £800 and will be relying on matchday walk ups paying for a one off experience.

[Callum_62]

I reckon they cannot shift anymore at £800 and will be relying on matchday walk ups paying for a one off experience.Seems odd to just take them off the market though - essentially giving up on selling the seat

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[Nicho87]

I reckon one or two signings will get a few more season tickets through the door

Numbers were always going to dip after the last season but even watching day one of pre season hibs just released it does begin to get you interested.

[Ship of Hope]

Have ST sales dipped? What was last years total and where are we at now?

[Mrimbetween]

Probably the best out of all the teams in the SP (obviously not counting the two cheeks) and hearts who have a 7k waiting list by all accounts !!!

[JimBHibees]

Going to be empty for some time then with the flumps currently running things at Hibs.

Go on say something nice about Hibs you know you want to 😊

[Stairway 2 7]

I reckon they cannot shift anymore at £800 and will be relying on matchday walk ups paying for a one off experience.

If even that amount turn up, the famous 5 lower will be busier than before. Think it will get a decent amount of walk ups with the young team

[hibee-boys]

I thought the middle standing section had all but sold out when I’d looked a few weeks ago🤔

[hibee-boys]

Does seem strange that they’ve taken down the sales for the new hospitality section.

[Since90+2]

Probably the best out of all the teams in the SP (obviously not counting the two cheeks) and hearts who have a 7k waiting list by all accounts !!!

7k waiting list is a load of *****.

[Since452]

Can walk ups go in the standing section or is it ST only? Imagine it'll be pretty busy if walks ups can go in.

[.Sean.]

Really poor uptake for both the standing section and the new hospitality. Up until when they took the hospitality down they’d only sold about sixty season tickets for that section

[GreenCastle]

Really poor uptake for both the standing section and the new hospitality. Up until when they took the hospitality down they’d only sold about sixty season tickets for that section

The lower tier would be close to selling out if we had a team who were doing well.

Unfortunately we have been crap for a while so fans aren’t buying ST.

Until the team start improving and the club show ambition the stadium will only sell out against Hearts at home.

[Ringothedog]

Looking at our sales excluding hospitality I would guess we have sold around 10400 ST’s so far

[MWHIBBIES]

The lower tier would be close to selling out if we had a team who were doing well.

Unfortunately we have been crap for a while so fans aren’t buying ST.

Until the team start improving and the club show ambition the stadium will only sell out against Hearts at home.

The club show plenty of ambition. It's just false to say otherwise.

We'll also start selling out when our fans stop turning away when things get a bit tough.

[andrew70]

The club show plenty of ambition. It's just false to say otherwise.

We'll also start selling out when our fans stop turning away when things get a bit tough.

Spot on here.

[SHODAN]

The fans have done well to stick with this **** squad for so long; history also shows that when Hibs fans stop turning up it takes a monumental change in fortunes to get us back. Over to you, Hibs. :aok:

[MWHIBBIES]

The fans have done well to stick with this **** squad for so long; history also shows that when Hibs fans stop turning up it takes a monumental change in fortunes to get us back. Over to you, Hibs. :aok:

Or just support your team?

[GordonHFC]

Or just support your team?

👏👏👏👏👏

[Pretty Boy]

If we have sold close to 10500 STs already then our average attendance next season will compare very favourably to the bulk of the 80s, 90s, 00s and early 2010s.

Hibs fans now are more loyal than they have ever been and next season won't be an exception.

[Ringothedog]

Or just support your team?

👍

[we are hibs]

Treat the fans like customers then don't be surprised if they act like customers.

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[Scouse Hibee]

The club show plenty of ambition. It's just false to say otherwise.

We'll also start selling out when our fans stop turning away when things get a bit tough.

Spot on, support your team regardless.

[Benny Brazil]

The fans have done well to stick with this **** squad for so long; history also shows that when Hibs fans stop turning up it takes a monumental change in fortunes to get us back. Over to you, Hibs. :aok:

So we should only turn up when things are good?
I've seen more crap Hibs teams than good over the last nearly 40 years but that won't change me going to support my team.

[Scouse Hibee]

The fans have done well to stick with this **** squad for so long; history also shows that when Hibs fans stop turning up it takes a monumental change in fortunes to get us back. Over to you, Hibs. :aok:

Over to you to support your team regardless 👍

[superfurryhibby]

Over to you to support your team regardless 👍

Over to Hibs to provide a team that makes people feel they are worth turning up for.

It's not hard to see the correlation between performance and attendances at Hibs. Supporting the club isn't a duty, it's an option, one which many will decline to take up if we continue to be rubbish.

[Since452]

Attendances go up when we have an entertaining, winning team on the park. They go down when we don't. It's that simple. The Aberdeen game last season was a warning to how bad it can get.

[Sioux]

Over to Hibs to provide a team that makes people feel they are worth turning up for.

It's not hard to see the correlation between performance and attendances at Hibs. Supporting the club isn't a duty, it's an option, one which many will decline to take up if we continue to be rubbish.

That is not a description of a Hibs supporter. That's a 'customer.'

[hibee-boys]

There are hardcore of fans that will attend irrespective of how the team are performing, out of habit more than anything I suggest, or at the very least, to connect with friends/family. However, to suggest that there isn’t a correlation between a well performing team and subsequent positive impact on walks ups is ridiculous……whether we like it or not. I don’t blame any fan for staying away, especially when families have less disposable income, when they are having to put up the regular dross dished out over the past couple of seasons.

[superfurryhibby]

That is not a description of a Hibs supporter. That's a 'customer.'

Whatever, that doesn't change the reality that more will turn up to watch a decent Hibs side than the dross we have been served up these past seasons.

[JimBHibees]

Over to you to support your team regardless 👍

Agree support your team

[Brooster]

Agree support your team

Agreed. Can't be bothered with the 'I'm not going back until we are brilliant ' patter.

[SHODAN]

So we should only turn up when things are good?
I've seen more crap Hibs teams than good over the last nearly 40 years but that won't change me going to support my team.

I'm the same. Had a season ticket since 2007 and that won't change any time soon. However, many of us are not and will prioritise something else in life if the product on offer is consistently bad.

We don't get to have one terrible season after another and then complain when people decide it's no longer worth it.

[lucky]

After a 4 year absence, I've got an ST again. It's easy to get out of the habit of going to games but somehow I've been dragged back in. But I know I'll miss at least 4 games due to other commitments. Football is expensive but an ST is still the best value for money. Last seasons walk-up prices were scandalous, £30 for Aberdeen.

[Since90+2]

More people will attend when the team does well. That's just a fact of football whether folk like it or not.

Yes some people will go week in week out regardless but some people have priorities they value more than Hibs. No point moaning about it.

[Scouse Hibee]

Over to Hibs to provide a team that makes people feel they are worth turning up for.

It's not hard to see the correlation between performance and attendances at Hibs. Supporting the club isn't a duty, it's an option, one which many will decline to take up if we continue to be rubbish.

Yeah glory hunting supporters every club has them. Just like every club has those that support their team regardless of results or performance.

[linlithgowhibbie]

Can walk ups go in the standing section or is it ST only? Imagine it'll be pretty busy if walks ups can go in.

Walk ups are available for any non season ticket seat/standing space:thumbsup:

[superfurryhibby]

Yeah glory hunting supporters every club has them. Just like every club has those that support their team regardless of results or performance.

Sometimes supporting a football team can be a bit more nuanced than this.

55 years of watching Hibs tells me that anyone motivated by glory hunting is watching the wrong side. Maybe you confuse us with your other teams supporters? :wink:

I'm comfortable with anyone's approach to supporting Hibs, all about preference and choice. However, I do understand that a good Hibs side will attract more interest than a poor one. Not sure how anyone could disagree with this observation really

[superfurryhibby]

Agreed. Can't be bothered with the 'I'm not going back until we are brilliant ' patter.

Yes, because this thread is rammed with folk actually saying this....

[DH1875]

With Glasgow only being an hour away from Edinburgh the notion that anyone who supports Hibs can be called a glory hunter is beyond me.

[GreenCastle]

Hibs fans and glory hunters ?!

Quite the opposite - quite remarkable Hibs get as many fans as they do.

There are fans who seem to pay the over priced fees regardless but there are also many who can’t justify it especially if the product is poor.

The fan base is there but awful manager appointments and some terrible player recruitment has led us to where we are. Until the manager and players start performing better the crowds will be lower than last few seasons.

When even was the last decent season we had in person watching the team ? Covid season was 3rd ?

[Brightside]

Or just support your team?

Spot on.

[Paul1642]

Hibs fans and glory hunters ?!

Quite the opposite - quite remarkable Hibs get as many fans as they do.

There are fans who seem to pay the over priced fees regardless but there are also many who can’t justify it especially if the product is poor.

The fan base is there but awful manager appointments and some terrible player recruitment has led us to where we are. Until the manager and players start performing better the crowds will be lower than last few seasons.

When even was the last decent season we had in person watching the team ? Covid season was 3rd ?

It’s far less simple than being a so called glory hunter, which as has been pointed out is pretty incompatible with being a Hibs fan.

It’s about wanting some value for your money and time. I love Hibs but if I’m going to spend £30 and the best part of my Saturday going to a game I at least want to be watching a team with some fight and style about them regardless of the result.

The Mowbray and Lennon days for example brought no silverware yet win or loose you knew you had a good change in seeing a good game.

I applaud all the fans who go through thick and thin and the club would be nothing without these guys, but I don’t think it’s fair to expect every Hibs fan to make every game, especially when the on pitch product is dull.

Young kids and / or shift work or various other life factors make it pretty tough for some.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The scottish cup win bounce in our attendances has probably reached the end of its road now but there is still plenty of appetite to watch Hibs. The league cup away games coming up will show that. I expect us to take impressive crowds.

The club has massive potential. We just need to get our act together

[Scouse Hibee]

Sometimes supporting a football team can be a bit more nuanced than this.

55 years of watching Hibs tells me that anyone motivated by glory hunting is watching the wrong side. Maybe you confuse us with your other teams supporters? :wink:

I'm comfortable with anyone's approach to supporting Hibs, all about preference and choice. However, I do understand that a good Hibs side will attract more interest than a poor one. Not sure how anyone could disagree with this observation really

Maybe glory hunters was the wrong term given the success Hibs have had in my 32 years of supporting them. 😀
However my point still stands about folk who stick with actively supporting their team, no matter what.

[hibsfan7]

we won the championship with lennon is does that not class as silverware?

[Pagan Hibernia]

we won the championship with lennon is does that not class as silverware?

Not really.

[MWHIBBIES]

we won the championship with lennon is does that not class as silverware?

Na, that isn't a major trophy.

[.Sean.]

we won the championship with lennon is does that not class as silverware?
After the embarrassment of finding ourselves in that league in the first place, no

[Chipper1875]

we won the championship with lennon is does that not class as silverware?

That’s embarrassing

[Since452]

we won the championship with lennon is does that not class as silverware?

No. On a par with winning the challenge cup.

[7Hero]

unfortunately it's the "fans" who stay away and return when the team is doing well, that are needed to have an increased revenue / budget and better squad.

Slag them all you like, they are crucial to the club.

As for the rest of us, it's quite remarkable how many go regularly considering how poor we have been for so long.

[Eyrie]

we won the championship with lennon is does that not class as silverware?

It wasn't silver but brass. Certainly not something for our honours board.

We wouldn't have been down there in the first place if Butcher had had even half a clue.

[tonyrougier123]

I think signing players that get fans excited is important for higher numbers of sales.
There’s a lot of changes for the coming season to gather a wee bit inspiration, but the fans were promised a player budget for the summer and I feel a few will be holding off to see how July pans out in the market before they dip back in.

[Ringothedog]

It wasn't silver but brass. Certainly not something for our honours board.

We wouldn't have been down there in the first place if Butcher had had even half a clue.

It’s on the clubs website as an “honour” along with the summer and drybrough cups.

[LeithMike]

We'll also start selling out when our fans stop turning away when things get a bit tough.

I think this is a daft comment. Hibs, more than ever, is a commercial entity and is not slow to try and extract money from “supporters” from £150 mascot packages for friendly games to £250 for entry to a stadium bar for the season. People are quite right then to think not only about value for money but also value for their time.

I think it’s pretty much unarguable to say that over recent years the club has been the subject of very chaotic management and it’s no surprise that the number of fans is declining as a result.

Hibs pay very high salaries to an executive team and we keep hearing that although they may not be good at recruitment they are brilliant on the commercial side. Surely then it’s down to them to grow the customer base? If it’s declining then perhaps rather than attribute blame solely to the fans then it might be worth thinking about accountability within the organisation? I think football fans, in general, and particularly at Hibs, have consistent goodwill for the club and are very slow to walk away.

Let’s hope we are now back on an upwards cycle but blaming the fans for not sticking with the club through hard times is way off the mark in my view. Let’s hope we have a good reason this season coming for turning up week after week.


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[JimBHibees]

I think this is a daft comment. Hibs, more than ever, is a commercial entity and is not slow to try and extract money from “supporters” from £150 mascot packages for friendly games to £250 for entry to a stadium bar for the season. People are quite right then to think not only about value for money but also value for their time.

I think it’s pretty much unarguable to say that over recent years the club has been the subject of very chaotic management and it’s no surprise that the number of fans is declining as a result.

Hibs pay very high salaries to an executive team and we keep hearing that although they may not be good at recruitment they are brilliant on the commercial side. Surely then it’s down to them to grow the customer base? If it’s declining then perhaps rather than attribute blame solely to the fans then it might be worth thinking about accountability within the organisation? I think football fans, in general, and particularly at Hibs, have consistent goodwill for the club and are very slow to walk away.

Let’s hope we are now back on an upwards cycle but blaming the fans for not sticking with the club through hard times is way off the mark in my view. Let’s hope we have a good reason this season coming for turning up week after week.


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Don’t think it is a daft comment. We will support you ever more and all that.

[we are hibs]

I think this is a daft comment. Hibs, more than ever, is a commercial entity and is not slow to try and extract money from “supporters” from £150 mascot packages for friendly games to £250 for entry to a stadium bar for the season. People are quite right then to think not only about value for money but also value for their time.

I think it’s pretty much unarguable to say that over recent years the club has been the subject of very chaotic management and it’s no surprise that the number of fans is declining as a result.

Hibs pay very high salaries to an executive team and we keep hearing that although they may not be good at recruitment they are brilliant on the commercial side. Surely then it’s down to them to grow the customer base? If it’s declining then perhaps rather than attribute blame solely to the fans then it might be worth thinking about accountability within the organisation? I think football fans, in general, and particularly at Hibs, have consistent goodwill for the club and are very slow to walk away.

Let’s hope we are now back on an upwards cycle but blaming the fans for not sticking with the club through hard times is way off the mark in my view. Let’s hope we have a good reason this season coming for turning up week after week.


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Great post.

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[superfurryhibby]

I think this is a daft comment. Hibs, more than ever, is a commercial entity and is not slow to try and extract money from “supporters” from £150 mascot packages for friendly games to £250 for entry to a stadium bar for the season. People are quite right then to think not only about value for money but also value for their time.

I think it’s pretty much unarguable to say that over recent years the club has been the subject of very chaotic management and it’s no surprise that the number of fans is declining as a result.

Hibs pay very high salaries to an executive team and we keep hearing that although they may not be good at recruitment they are brilliant on the commercial side. Surely then it’s down to them to grow the customer base? If it’s declining then perhaps rather than attribute blame solely to the fans then it might be worth thinking about accountability within the organisation? I think football fans, in general, and particularly at Hibs, have consistent goodwill for the club and are very slow to walk away.

Let’s hope we are now back on an upwards cycle but blaming the fans for not sticking with the club through hard times is way off the mark in my view. Let’s hope we have a good reason this season coming for turning up week after week.


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Given the points you make and taking into account the fact that we have a cost of living crisis on a scale that is fairly unprecedented, I totally agree. I don't think some on here are understanding how much that can influence people's willingness to go to matches.

My view is that Hibs fans have shown enormous goodwill and loyalty to the club. Look at the turnouts for some of the away games last season and you can't help being impressed that we appear in those numbers when the side was pretty brutal to watch.

The people running the club are intent on extracting the maximum from the support. That can stick in the craw a bit when you also read about our CEO's grossly inflated salary on one hand and then see the club posting huge losses due to the inept way they have managed the football business.

Fan blaming seems quite popular on here at times, there's a blandness about comments about loyalty etc that tells me some folk are very blinkered when it comes to understanding the basics of what entices people to part with their cash and give up their time to watch football. We've had it all on this thread, from glory hunting (got to laugh), to the inane we'll support you evermore blind loyalty chat (got to laugh some more).

I have lapsed game attending Hibee pals. They used to make an effort for bigger matches etc, even though we were often pish. Chances of getting them to games now are even lower with the very high ticket prices and the having to be on databases etc. Once you fall out of it, it can be hard to get back into it. Many are opting for the match on the telly instead (the firesticks and unauthorised streaming make matches even more accessible than ever).

The best way to get folk turning up is to entertain and put on a decent show. There's no debate needed around that, it's a plain fact of football life. Hibs are no different to many other clubs in that respect.

[Callum_62]

I'm guessing STs should be getting dispatched this week?

Early July was the communication

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[RIP]

What is the benchmark we are meant to be hitting? Is it a league place? Progress in a cup? Entertaining football? All of the above?

I seem to remember a Hibs statistician informing us that our average league position over the past forty years has been sixth. If that figure is correct then for every season we are fourth or fifth there will be a seventh or eighth.

How many times in that same period have we made third? That seems like a massive over-achievement based on our average. The balancing factor has been relegation.

I accept that in the 63 years I've been going to Easter Road there have been changes in supporter behaviour. The biggest changes are people self-identifying as 'customers' or 'fans' rather supporters. The other is those who seem to join social media pages to talk the club down more than support, or even worse, introduce comparisons with the smellies. Each to their own but I still can't understand their motivation.

I don't go to as many games as I'd like to these days so I'm not as good a supporter as I used to be. But I was born into a Hibs-supporting family who all love our wonderful club and after I'm gone, my 2 sons and hopefully their future children will be there in the stands cheering the team on.

My dream is that in the year 2064, the stands will still be made up of more supporters than 'customers'.

Glory Glory.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think this is a daft comment. Hibs, more than ever, is a commercial entity and is not slow to try and extract money from “supporters” from £150 mascot packages for friendly games to £250 for entry to a stadium bar for the season. People are quite right then to think not only about value for money but also value for their time.

I think it’s pretty much unarguable to say that over recent years the club has been the subject of very chaotic management and it’s no surprise that the number of fans is declining as a result.

Hibs pay very high salaries to an executive team and we keep hearing that although they may not be good at recruitment they are brilliant on the commercial side. Surely then it’s down to them to grow the customer base? If it’s declining then perhaps rather than attribute blame solely to the fans then it might be worth thinking about accountability within the organisation? I think football fans, in general, and particularly at Hibs, have consistent goodwill for the club and are very slow to walk away.

Let’s hope we are now back on an upwards cycle but blaming the fans for not sticking with the club through hard times is way off the mark in my view. Let’s hope we have a good reason this season coming for turning up week after week.


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:thumbsup::top marks

[oldbutdim]

I'm guessing STs should be getting dispatched this week?

Early July was the communication

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Currently being stuffed in envelopes!
Batch postings next week.

[AlbertK86]

Go on say something nice about Hibs you know you want to [emoji4]

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[AlbertK86]

Or just support your team?

Spot on that man


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[IberianHibernian]

What is the benchmark we are meant to be hitting? Is it a league place? Progress in a cup? Entertaining football? All of the above?

I seem to remember a Hibs statistician informing us that our average league position over the past forty years has been sixth. If that figure is correct then for every season we are fourth or fifth there will be a seventh or eighth.

How many times in that same period have we made third? That seems like a massive over-achievement based on our average. The balancing factor has been relegation.

I accept that in the 63 years I've been going to Easter Road there have been changes in supporter behaviour. The biggest changes are people self-identifying as 'customers' or 'fans' rather supporters. The other is those who seem to join social media pages to talk the club down more than support, or even worse, introduce comparisons with the smellies. Each to their own but I still can't understand their motivation.

I don't go to as many games as I'd like to these days so I'm not as good a supporter as I used to be. But I was born into a Hibs-supporting family who all love our wonderful club and after I'm gone, my 2 sons and hopefully their future children will be there in the stands cheering the team on.

My dream is that in the year 2064, the stands will still be made up of more supporters than 'customers'.

Glory Glory.Excellent post . As for benchmark , lots of comments in last 6 months about how terrible last season was . 8th in league ( seconds from top 6 and possible European place in 5th ) , LC semi , SC QF and getting through 2 rounds in Europe albeit new Intertoto was certainly not a terrible season resultswise historically . I didn`t enjoy last season but am aware that this season could be even worse results wise at least . Hopefully , results will be better , we`ll have some big results to celebrate and we`ll see some entertaining football . Someone mentioned post SC winning bounce but 2018 with Lennon was huge too . Second half of that season was great entertainment and made it easy to follow the team .