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Brightside
24-05-2024, 10:22 AM
As expected the new Dir of Football at Bournemouth will be working across all teams in the group. Makes a lot of sense.

matty_f
24-05-2024, 10:23 AM
Do you have a link for that, please?

Brightside
24-05-2024, 10:25 AM
Do you have a link for that, please?

https://x.com/SkySportsNews/status/1793946426042417242

matty_f
24-05-2024, 10:34 AM
https://x.com/SkySportsNews/status/1793946426042417242

Thank you! :aok:

04Sauzee
24-05-2024, 10:41 AM
As expected the new Dir of Football at Bournemouth will be working across all teams in the group. Makes a lot of sense.

João Pinto's laddie

Joe6-2
24-05-2024, 10:43 AM
As expected the new Dir of Football at Bournemouth will be working across all teams in the group. Makes a lot of sense.

Sort of makes sense but across Scotland, England, France and New Zealand?

worcesterhibby
24-05-2024, 11:04 AM
their scouting network has proved to be far, far more succesful than ours over the last 10 years. However it's easy to understand that not all the players they succesfully scout will be at a point in their career where they can go straight into playing in an English Premiership team. That's where Lorient, Hibs and Aukland come in. We will get the "next best" down players who they want to get ready for Premiership football, or at least sell at a profit. Hibs are far more likely to attain European Football than Lorient, so I would hope we will get as many of the "next best" players they scout as anyone else in the group.

We have staff at ER who have been very succesful on the commercial side, but less succesful on the football side. Brighton have had great success when it comes to buying players and recruiting managers...so getting their staff to oversee what we do on the football side of things has to be a good thing.

matty_f
24-05-2024, 11:05 AM
I think this role is essential to get the most out of the group - Malky Mackay needs to be working closely with Pinto to make sure that Hibs’ interests are pushed forward as much as possible.

we are hibs
24-05-2024, 11:27 AM
Can someone explain how this benefits us? How exactly does this affect us?

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allezsauzee
24-05-2024, 11:27 AM
I'm not sure it's the best look if we are meant to be operating at arms length to Bournemouth. Maybe not as big an issue while none of Hibs, Bournemouth or Lorient are playing in European competition but I would think this structure would need some revision should two or more of the clubs qualified for Europe.

Smartie
24-05-2024, 11:30 AM
Can someone explain how this benefits us? How exactly does this affect us?

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Joao Pinto’s laddie > Ian Gordon.

marinello59
24-05-2024, 11:31 AM
I’m uncomfortable with this and I don’t really know why. I may just need time to process it.

Bostonhibby
24-05-2024, 11:39 AM
Struggling to see the benefit for Hibs here, but then I've been struggling with how we are run for a while now.

Think I'll wait until we announce a Supreme Leader........

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Brightside
24-05-2024, 11:45 AM
I'm not sure it's the best look if we are meant to be operating at arms length to Bournemouth. Maybe not as big an issue while none of Hibs, Bournemouth or Lorient are playing in European competition but I would think this structure would need some revision should two or more of the clubs qualified for Europe.

It’s pretty much exactly what the CEO said we’d get from the link up. Making use of the skills and practices across the group.

GloryGlory
24-05-2024, 11:46 AM
Can someone explain how this benefits us? How exactly does this affect us?

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A bigger and hopefully better recruitment structure, better technical support, better player identification.

GloryGlory
24-05-2024, 11:48 AM
Sort of makes sense but across Scotland, England, France and New Zealand?

I imagine he will be in a high level strategic role, working closely with Sporting Directors and recruitment teams at each individual club.

Jim Scotts hat trick
24-05-2024, 11:59 AM
As expected the new Dir of Football at Bournemouth will be working across all teams in the group. Makes a lot of sense.

Have to say I am not keen in this link up with Bournemouth we could just become a loan club for another clubs young players , however time will tell if it is a good thing or not.

Itsnoteasy
24-05-2024, 12:07 PM
their scouting network has proved to be far, far more succesful than ours over the last 10 years. However it's easy to understand that not all the players they succesfully scout will be at a point in their career where they can go straight into playing in an English Premiership team. That's where Lorient, Hibs and Aukland come in. We will get the "next best" down players who they want to get ready for Premiership football, or at least sell at a profit. Hibs are far more likely to attain European Football than Lorient, so I would hope we will get as many of the "next best" players they scout as anyone else in the group.

We have staff at ER who have been very succesful on the commercial side, but less succesful on the football side. Brighton have had great success when it comes to buying players and recruiting managers...so getting their staff to oversee what we do on the football side of things has to be a good thing.

How often have we been in Europe since the 80s. Mare than Lorient but no very many.

allezsauzee
24-05-2024, 12:08 PM
Have to say I am not keen in this link up with Bournemouth we could just become a loan club for another clubs young players , however time will tell if it is a good thing or not.

I have no objection to us taking some Bournemouth players on loan as long as we have a solid spine of our own players and this was mutually advantageous to both clubs. However , I think we have to wary that we become a bit of an experiment lab for Bournemouth. We should be in no doubt that Bournemouth's interests will take priority.

CapitalGreen
24-05-2024, 12:10 PM
Have to say I am not keen in this link up with Bournemouth we could just become a loan club for another clubs young players , however time will tell if it is a good thing or not.

It’s our permanent players that have been the issue in recent years.

worcesterhibby
24-05-2024, 12:15 PM
How often have we been in Europe since the 80s. Mare than Lorient but no very many.

Yes but with abit of extra transfer budget and a half decent manager, coming 4th or 5th should (in theory) be much easier for Hibs than Lorient since they have just been relegated !

worcesterhibby
24-05-2024, 12:21 PM
Can someone explain how this benefits us? How exactly does this affect us?

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I thought I already had ?

their scouting network has proved to be far, far more succesful than ours over the last 10 years. However it's easy to understand that not all the players they succesfully scout will be at a point in their career where they can go straight into playing in an English Premiership team. That's where Lorient, Hibs and Aukland come in. We will get the "next best" down players who they want to get ready for Premiership football, or at least sell at a profit. Hibs are far more likely to attain European Football than Lorient, so I would hope we will get as many of the "next best" players they scout as anyone else in the group.

We have staff at ER who have been very succesful on the commercial side, but less succesful on the football side. Brighton have had great success when it comes to buying players and recruiting managers...so getting their staff to oversee what we do on the football side of things has to be a good thing.

Pedantic_Hibee
24-05-2024, 12:24 PM
I have no objection to us taking some Bournemouth players on loan as long as we have a solid spine of our own players and this was mutually advantageous to both clubs. However , I think we have to wary that we become a bit of an experiment lab for Bournemouth. We should be in no doubt that Bournemouth's interests will take priority.

Players that don’t make the grade for them probably get sold on for +£5m. We could do with a few players like that.

JohnM1875
24-05-2024, 12:25 PM
If he’s good at the job then surely we have nothing to worry about?

matty_f
24-05-2024, 12:34 PM
I think this role is essential for a multi-club model to work to the benefit of all of the clubs.

It makes sense to have Malky Mackay as the local Sporting Director and my guess is that he will work closely with Pinto to establish what good looks like, where Hibs' gaps are with how we're set up now and how we should set up, and Pinto should be well placed to know how to leverage the resources (financial, technical, knowledge etc) of the group to best serve each team.

IMHO, Foley's selling point was that he knows how to set teams up to be successful (Vegas Knights, Bournemouth, plus a background of non-sporting businesses being very successful) and so having Black Knight's blueprint if you like, means that we can use that to our advantage.

It means we have Foley, Casswell, and now Pinto having a close look at what we're doing. It's very evident that Ben Kensell and Kit and Ian Gordon don't have the necessary skills and experience to deliver a successful football operation so having Malky locally and Pinto across the group would, on the face of it, be a very sensible way to address that.

Forza Fred
24-05-2024, 12:39 PM
Could it be that the individual recruitment teams are disbanded and a ‘centralised’ recruitment system/team is formed which will identify players suitable for each of the teams depending on their level and requirements?

Would reduce overheads across the group.

Hibs4185
24-05-2024, 12:43 PM
Access to extra scouting resources can’t be a bad thing? If they scout 1000 players, some will be out of our budget, some will be below our budget some might fit our profile perfectly.

Big signings go to 1 club, middle road signings come to us?

Better to have too many scouts than not enough

JimBHibees
24-05-2024, 12:56 PM
Can someone explain how this benefits us? How exactly does this affect us?

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Suppose access to scouting networks and information on best practice approaches. Opportunity to get possible loan moves or sign players who can help us.

Betty Boop
24-05-2024, 01:02 PM
I thought I already had ?

their scouting network has proved to be far, far more succesful than ours over the last 10 years. However it's easy to understand that not all the players they succesfully scout will be at a point in their career where they can go straight into playing in an English Premiership team. That's where Lorient, Hibs and Aukland come in. We will get the "next best" down players who they want to get ready for Premiership football, or at least sell at a profit. Hibs are far more likely to attain European Football than Lorient, so I would hope we will get as many of the "next best" players they scout as anyone else in the group.

We have staff at ER who have been very succesful on the commercial side, but less succesful on the football side. Brighton have had great success when it comes to buying players and recruiting managers...so getting their staff to oversee what we do on the football side of things has to be a good thing.

What's Brighton got to do with it?

Bobby's Cinema
24-05-2024, 01:04 PM
Could it be that the individual recruitment teams are disbanded and a ‘centralised’ recruitment system/team is formed which will identify players suitable for each of the teams depending on their level and requirements?

Would reduce overheads across the group.
Not sure I like the sound of that. What has happened to the beautiful game.

worcesterhibby
24-05-2024, 01:06 PM
What's Brighton got to do with it?

Good Point :greengrin errrr Bournemouth (Doh) :doh:

Paul1642
24-05-2024, 01:23 PM
I thought I already had ?

their scouting network has proved to be far, far more succesful than ours over the last 10 years. However it's easy to understand that not all the players they succesfully scout will be at a point in their career where they can go straight into playing in an English Premiership team. That's where Lorient, Hibs and Aukland come in. We will get the "next best" down players who they want to get ready for Premiership football, or at least sell at a profit. Hibs are far more likely to attain European Football than Lorient, so I would hope we will get as many of the "next best" players they scout as anyone else in the group.

We have staff at ER who have been very succesful on the commercial side, but less succesful on the football side. Brighton have had great success when it comes to buying players and recruiting managers...so getting their staff to oversee what we do on the football side of things has to be a good thing.

This is what I’m hoping to get from this. Also not just players who are getting ready for Bournemouth. There is the level of player talent that would probably never be good enough for the English prem but is still more than good enough for Hibs. That’s the sort of player Bournemouth should be recommending to us.

TrinityHFC
24-05-2024, 01:35 PM
I'm not sure it's the best look if we are meant to be operating at arms length to Bournemouth. Maybe not as big an issue while none of Hibs, Bournemouth or Lorient are playing in European competition but I would think this structure would need some revision should two or more of the clubs qualified for Europe.

Nobody has ever said we are supposed to be operating at arms length.

DH1875
24-05-2024, 01:37 PM
So would all our signings come via Bournemouth in the future then?
If not then works both ways then no? If Bournemouth want to look at Youan for example does he then go for free, a years loan or would we get a fee for him?

Brightside
24-05-2024, 01:41 PM
So would all our signings come via Bournemouth in the future then?
If not then works both ways then no? If Bournemouth want to look at Youan for example does he then go for free, a years loan or would we get a fee for him?

No. There is nothing to suggest our signings will come from bournemouth. We will just make use of the group expertise.

JohnM1875
24-05-2024, 01:43 PM
No. There is nothing to suggest our signings will come from bournemouth. We will just make use of the group expertise.

Aye, nothing. Except Moriah-Welsh, Bevan and Marcondes :wink:. And potentially their keeper on loan next season.

matty_f
24-05-2024, 01:47 PM
No. There is nothing to suggest our signings will come from bournemouth. We will just make use of the group expertise.

Ben Kensell emphasised this ('there is no Bournemouth B Team here') at the AGM.
He said rules don't allow us to just borrow a ton of players from Bournemouth but I seem to remember him mentioning that there are loopholes that could be exploited to our benefit with transfers as well.

Brightside
24-05-2024, 01:50 PM
Aye, nothing. Except Moriah-Welsh, Bevan and Marcondes :wink:. And potentially their keeper on loan next season.

That's very different from "ALL" Id be gutted if we didn't get players from Bournemouth. And I expect at least 2 for next season.

Pytheas
24-05-2024, 02:06 PM
He's very close with Mourinho apparently. :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

NYHibby
24-05-2024, 02:11 PM
Nobody has ever said we are supposed to be operating at arms length.

We are not a wholly owned subsidiary of Bournemouth. Foley’s duties to Hibs as a director of the company are separate to his duties to Bournemouth. We should be operating at an arm’s length from them.

It is fine if we are getting on season long loans players who are a season away from seeing regular playing time in the premier league. We wouldn’t be signing those half a step below the premier league players. But what if Bournemouth signs a dud, wants to off load him to us and Mackay/the new manager don’t want him?

To borrow a baseball analogy, we don’t want to be Bournemouth‘s AA or AAA team. The parent club does not run their minor league teams to win games.

matty_f
24-05-2024, 02:14 PM
We are not a wholly owned subsidiary of Bournemouth. Foley’s duties to Hibs as a director of the company are separate to his duties to Bournemouth. We should be operating at an arm’s length from them.

It is fine if we are getting on season long loans players who are a season away from seeing regular playing time in the premier league. We wouldn’t be signing those half a step below the premier league players. But what if Bournemouth signs a dud, wants to off load him to us and Mackay/the new manager don’t want him?

To borrow a baseball analogy, we don’t want to be Bournemouth‘s AA or AAA team. The parent club does not run their minor league teams to win games.
It's already on record that we won't take any players we don't want and that Hibs won't operate as Bournemouth's B team.

Carheenlea
24-05-2024, 02:17 PM
My worry is that we are going to see loan deals become prevalent, and while there may be some very good players in amongst that, the short term nature of it makes it almost impossible to build a solid side that the fans can identify with, and even harder for the new manager/head coach to make a longer term success of it.

Short termism.

overdrive
24-05-2024, 02:29 PM
My worry is that we are going to see loan deals become prevalent, and while there may be some very good players in amongst that, the short term nature of it makes it almost impossible to build a solid side that the fans can identify with, and even harder for the new manager/head coach to make a longer term success of it.

Short termism.

The loan rules are getting stricter. From this coming season you can only have 6 loans in and 6 loans out (excluding development loans). I think they might be even stricter in England. I think that they can only have two players on loan at any one time and a max of 4 per season. I think there might be a lot of "permanent" transfers between Bournemouth/Hibs/Lorient/Auckland to get round that.

NYHibby
24-05-2024, 02:31 PM
It's already on record that we won't take any players we don't want and that Hibs won't operate as Bournemouth's B team.

It is being reported that he will have an element of control over who we sign. It would be pretty naive to think that would have zero effect on who is in our squad.

TrinityHFC
24-05-2024, 02:38 PM
We are not a wholly owned subsidiary of Bournemouth. Foley’s duties to Hibs as a director of the company are separate to his duties to Bournemouth. We should be operating at an arm’s length from them.

It is fine if we are getting on season long loans players who are a season away from seeing regular playing time in the premier league. We wouldn’t be signing those half a step below the premier league players. But what if Bournemouth signs a dud, wants to off load him to us and Mackay/the new manager don’t want him?

To borrow a baseball analogy, we don’t want to be Bournemouth‘s AA or AAA team. The parent club does not run their minor league teams to win games.

That's not correct. There are no reasons to operate formally at an arms length from Bournemouth or the wider group.

How signings might work and how ambitions to the extent that they ever are conflicted are managed are totally different things. The whole point of the set up is to gain advantages from operating as part of a wider group - absolutely no need to be operating at arms length.

Greenio
24-05-2024, 02:39 PM
I'm for this on paper.

To me its just another step to what the long term plan is and that's sole ownership by BK. As much as they might say and maybe feel they want to honour the ambitions of their husband, dad, no one thought he'd pass so suddenly, and it was his dream to do this, not theirs, maybe this is how RG saw it playing out too, but yeah, thats how I see it

NYHibby
24-05-2024, 02:46 PM
That's not correct. There are no reasons to operate formally at an arms length from Bournemouth or the wider group.



Not wanting me or other shareholders to bring derivative action against the directors for breach of their duties to the company would be one reason…

matty_f
24-05-2024, 03:44 PM
It is being reported that he will have an element of control over who we sign. It would be pretty naive to think that would have zero effect on who is in our squad.

There's an inbetween from the spectrum of no effect to a B team though.

Hibees1973
24-05-2024, 03:59 PM
It is being reported that he will have an element of control over who we sign. It would be pretty naive to think that would have zero effect on who is in our squad.

Exactly. Is this not the whole point in Foley investing in the club, our obvious links with Bournemouth and the players they have provided us with already.

Time will tell if it creates a short termism environment at the club (revolving door of players), tbh it's been like that anyway for the last few years.

matty_f
24-05-2024, 04:06 PM
Exactly. Is this not the whole point in Foley investing in the club, our obvious links with Bournemouth and the players they have provided us with already.

Time will tell if it creates a short termism environment at the club (revolving door of players), tbh it's been like that anyway for the last few years.

He's on record as saying he will use the set up to develop players towards the EPL, so I would think we'll definitely see it happening.

Hibees1973
24-05-2024, 04:20 PM
He's on record as saying he will use the set up to develop players towards the EPL, so I would think we'll definitely see it happening.

That's the price we have paid with Foley now owning 25% of the club.

Autonomy has been lost. Some people regard the deal with the Black Knights as a good thing. I have my doubts.

Time will tell.

TrinityHFC
24-05-2024, 04:32 PM
Not wanting me or other shareholders to bring derivative action against the directors for breach of their duties to the company would be one reason…

That’s nonsense. I don’t think you understand what you’re talking about.

matty_f
24-05-2024, 04:37 PM
That's the price we have paid with Foley now owning 25% of the club.

Autonomy has been lost. Some people regard the deal with the Black Knights as a good thing. I have my doubts.

Time will tell.

It is a good thing.- they'll be better players than we can afford to get otherwise.

A Hi-Bee
24-05-2024, 04:43 PM
What are all the moaners, and undercover one's going to do when we are winning games with good players and getting into Europe.
:thumbsup:

degenerated
24-05-2024, 05:00 PM
What are all the moaners, and undercover one's going to do when we are winning games with good players and getting into Europe.
[emoji106]I wouldnt worry they'll still find stuff to whinge about.

matty_f
24-05-2024, 05:28 PM
Cherries owner Foley said: “We’re excited to bring Tiago to the club.

“Neill and Simon have worked closely with him on a number of deals in recent seasons and have always been very impressed by him.

“Tiago arrives with great experience at some high-profile clubs already in his young career.

"Hiring somebody with his background reinforces the ambition that we have to succeed in the Premier League and in our multi-club project.”


https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/24343903.bill-foley-afc-bournemouth-hired-tiago-pinto/

babahibs
24-05-2024, 05:35 PM
What are all the moaners, and undercover one's going to do when we are winning games with good players and getting into Europe.
:thumbsup:

Same as always,

Whinge, moan, stir ****, lie, whinge, moan, stir ****, lie, whinge, moan, stir ****, lie, repeat ad nauseum

NYHibby
24-05-2024, 06:30 PM
That’s nonsense. I don’t think you understand what you’re talking about.

I am quite happy that readers of this thread can judge which of us knows more about the duties the directors owe to the company. Given the great insight you have shown so far, I look forward to you explaining why my concerns on how those duties will be discharged when entering into transactions with companies fully owned by one of the directors when the board will now be advised by someone employed by that same director.

Brightside
24-05-2024, 07:21 PM
I am quite happy that readers of this thread can judge which of us knows more about the duties the directors owe to the company. Given the great insight you have shown so far, I look forward to you explaining why my concerns on how those duties will be discharged when entering into transactions with companies fully owned by one of the directors when the board will now be advised by someone employed by that same director.

I would prepare yourself as eventually the BK group will own the whole lot.

Forza Fred
25-05-2024, 01:40 AM
Not sure I like the sound of that. What has happened to the beautiful game.

I’m not concerned about it.

Fitba is like any industry…it changes, it evolves etc.

We can either embrace the changes and progress, or stick to the ways we have always done things, and fade further into obscurity.

I don’t see anything but benefit in pooling resources for recruitment purposes….it opens up all sorts of possibilities…..and it’s not as if our Recruitment Department can be held up to be an example of Best Practice.

We decide who comes….that won’t change, but maybe we’ll see better options.

It makes no difference to us if the player who we agree to take is first identified on a computer screen in East Mains or computer screen in London or in Wagga Wagga.

It’s the start of the process.

What it will hopefully enable us to do though is cut out a few jobs from the payroll.

How much of our budget is currently spent on the recruitment department?

We are all going to have to get used to changes…AI will surely be at the forefront of most recruitment practices in the future to an even bigger degree than it is now!

Things change!

Embrace the changes and make them work FOR us, or we go the way of the dinosaur!

AlbertK86
25-05-2024, 07:28 AM
It’s pretty much exactly what the CEO said we’d get from the link up. Making use of the skills and practices across the group.

Correct


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AlbertK86
25-05-2024, 07:29 AM
A bigger and hopefully better recruitment structure, better technical support, better player identification.

Correct as well


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AlbertK86
25-05-2024, 07:30 AM
I think this role is essential for a multi-club model to work to the benefit of all of the clubs.

It makes sense to have Malky Mackay as the local Sporting Director and my guess is that he will work closely with Pinto to establish what good looks like, where Hibs' gaps are with how we're set up now and how we should set up, and Pinto should be well placed to know how to leverage the resources (financial, technical, knowledge etc) of the group to best serve each team.

IMHO, Foley's selling point was that he knows how to set teams up to be successful (Vegas Knights, Bournemouth, plus a background of non-sporting businesses being very successful) and so having Black Knight's blueprint if you like, means that we can use that to our advantage.

It means we have Foley, Casswell, and now Pinto having a close look at what we're doing. It's very evident that Ben Kensell and Kit and Ian Gordon don't have the necessary skills and experience to deliver a successful football operation so having Malky locally and Pinto across the group would, on the face of it, be a very sensible way to address that.

Great post


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TrinityHFC
26-05-2024, 09:06 AM
I am quite happy that readers of this thread can judge which of us knows more about the duties the directors owe to the company. Given the great insight you have shown so far, I look forward to you explaining why my concerns on how those duties will be discharged when entering into transactions with companies fully owned by one of the directors when the board will now be advised by someone employed by that same director.

Aye. It is my job to know about these things.

Suggest you look a bit more into the definition of Directors Duties and understand a bit about how any company can delegate and outsource activities and decisions and also appropriately manage conflicts of interest.

You’ll have no luck trying to take action against our board for taking advantage of the benefits that working with our investors bring to the business. A model described to and approved by the shareholders.

B.H.F.C
26-05-2024, 03:03 PM
I’d be willing to bet that the majority of players that come in to Hibs will have nothing to do with the Black Knights and will never be near one of the the Black Knights clubs. If the Black Knights were going to be running the show, they’d have their own man in at Hibs and not Malky McKay.

It’s obvious there’s going to be some kind of influence given they have board representation and handed over 6 million quid.

matty_f
26-05-2024, 03:19 PM
I’d be willing to bet that the majority of players that come in to Hibs will have nothing to do with the Black Knights and will never be near one of the the Black Knights clubs. If the Black Knights were going to be running the show, they’d have their own man in at Hibs and not Malky McKay.

It’s obvious there’s going to be some kind of influence given they have board representation and handed over 6 million quid.

We already had Bevan, Marcondes and Moriah-Welsh from just Bournemouth, from just one transfer window.

I suspect we'll see more.

B.H.F.C
26-05-2024, 03:26 PM
We already had Bevan, Marcondes and Moriah-Welsh from just Bournemouth, from just one transfer window.

I suspect we'll see more.

We definitely will. But some people seem to think we’re going to turn in to Bournemouth’s B team for players they are either wanting rid of or wanting to develop. There will likely be a bit of both, I just think it’ll be a minority in terms of our transfer business.

matty_f
26-05-2024, 03:51 PM
We definitely will. But some people seem to think we’re going to turn in to Bournemouth’s B team for players they are either wanting rid of or wanting to develop. There will likely be a bit of both, I just think it’ll be a minority in terms of our transfer business.

Agreed - sorry, I misinterpreted your post a bit.

I'm with you in that I don't think all of our transfer activity will be with Bournemouth in mind, though (hopefully, I guess) some will be as those will be the ones that are theoretically at a level above us.

I'm Spartacus
26-05-2024, 07:49 PM
Does anyone know if we are going to be suffocated to their loan structure and process? Like, could we sign a players from Norwich, Dundee United and PSG and take 3 on loan from St Mirren, Napoli and Union Berlin? Or are all incoming players all through their process and say so?

B.H.F.C
26-05-2024, 08:02 PM
Does anyone know if we are going to be suffocated to their loan structure and process? Like, could we sign a players from Norwich, Dundee United and PSG and take 3 on loan from St Mirren, Napoli and Union Berlin? Or are all incoming players all through their process and say so?

Hibs are still Hibs and they can sign players from wherever they want.

The BK have handed over £6m and it’s not for nothing, but they are still a minority shareholder. It was made very clear that the BK are not in control.

superfurryhibby
26-05-2024, 08:04 PM
Does anyone know if we are going to be suffocated to their loan structure and process? Like, could we sign a players from Norwich, Dundee United and PSG and take 3 on loan from St Mirren, Napoli and Union Berlin? Or are all incoming players all through their process and say so?

Your guess is as good as anyone else's. I would guess that we will carry on signing from all types of club but with Bournemouth there will be a friend with benefits type relationship. We may well get a good shafting, but they'll not stay the night :wink:

I'm Spartacus
26-05-2024, 08:27 PM
Hibs are still Hibs and they can sign players from wherever they want.

The BK have handed over £6m and it’s not for nothing, but they are still a minority shareholder. It was made very clear that the BK are not in control.

I hear you, but I feel like they are in more control than I like for so little investement.


Your guess is as good as anyone else's. I would guess that we will carry on signing from all types of club but with Bournemouth there will be a friend with benefits type relationship. We may well get a good shafting, but they'll not stay the night :wink:

The best outcome :) (maybe not in this situation though!)

B.H.F.C
26-05-2024, 08:31 PM
I hear you, but I feel like they are in more control than I like for so little investment.

If the BK were in real control of the club, I don’t think they’d have appointed Malky McKay as Sporting Director.

Pretty Boy
26-05-2024, 08:31 PM
I think some of the predictions about our summer recruitment are way off the mark.

I don't think we'll suddenly be shopping in a totally different market and blowing other teams out the water with our offers. I also don't think we'll be overloaded with loans from Bournemouth, either players way outside our usual budget or dross they want punted.

I reckon we'll be shopping in broadly the same market with maybe one flagship signing and a couple of loans from Bournemouth, probably Bevan and A N Other.

The new group Football Overlord to the Stars position or whatever is it called doesn't massively concern me in itself. I still have misgivings about the multi club structure as a whole, both at Hibs and more generally, but if we are in one then such a position is an inevitable part of it really.

Forza Fred
26-05-2024, 10:46 PM
I think some of the predictions about our summer recruitment are way off the mark.

I don't think we'll suddenly be shopping in a totally different market and blowing other teams out the water with our offers. I also don't think we'll be overloaded with loans from Bournemouth, either players way outside our usual budget or dross they want punted.

I reckon we'll be shopping in broadly the same market with maybe one flagship signing and a couple of loans from Bournemouth, probably Bevan and A N Other.

The new group Football Overlord to the Stars position or whatever is it called doesn't massively concern me in itself. I still have misgivings about the multi club structure as a whole, both at Hibs and more generally, but if we are in one then such a position is an inevitable part of it really.

I’m with you Comrade.

The sun will still shine in the morning.

Greenio
26-05-2024, 11:31 PM
Hibs are still Hibs and they can sign players from wherever they want.

The BK have handed over £6m and it’s not for nothing, but they are still a minority shareholder. It was made very clear that the BK are not in control.


Maybe for now.

It's a stepping stone to full ownership. The Gordon family will want to return to their own lives, it was Ron's dream, not theirs. Plus Foley et al won't want part ownership...so they have part ownership in any of their other clubs.

Timeline is fluid, but imo it'll happen within 2/3 years

ancient hibee
27-05-2024, 11:06 AM
Very unlikely that the SFA will ever allow a takeover from BK.

joe breezy
27-05-2024, 11:17 AM
What's Brighton got to do with it?

Their name begins with B and they play on the south coast of England - it's the kind of mistake I would make :greengrin

Hello Bob 'my name's Bill' - oh well they both begin with B

matty_f
27-05-2024, 11:34 AM
Very unlikely that the SFA will ever allow a takeover from BK.

I'm not so sure, football is heading in that direction and I think we'll get started along with it. Huge pressure from the super wealthy clubs to relax rules and threats of breakaways etc will, in time, force associations' hands with it.

McD
27-05-2024, 12:17 PM
Maybe for now.

It's a stepping stone to full ownership. The Gordon family will want to return to their own lives, it was Ron's dream, not theirs. Plus Foley et al won't want part ownership...so they have part ownership in any of their other clubs.

Timeline is fluid, but imo it'll happen within 2/3 years



Part ownership of Lorient I think

matty_f
27-05-2024, 12:19 PM
Part ownership of Lorient I think

And they're about to go part in with a Belgian club as well (Standard Liege). It's very much the model he's driving at the moment.

Hibiza
27-05-2024, 04:06 PM
Struggling to see the benefit for Hibs here, but then I've been struggling with how we are run for a while now.

Think I'll wait until we announce a Supreme Leader........

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