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Albert Kidd 86’
23-05-2024, 05:50 AM
All three early “favs” are now defo out of the picture for the Hibs manager.
Sir David Gray is only one left standing from the pick of the bunch.
This is most likely the most important appointment in our recent history.
we have burned through managers like s*** through a goose over the last few years.
Now I am reading that HFC are possibly basing their selection on not paying any compensation to a club to get a new manager.
Surely this is not the case? I would not like to think they choose SDG purely on that basis….
JimBHibees
23-05-2024, 05:59 AM
All three early “favs” are now defo out of the picture for the Hibs manager.
Sir David Gray is only one left standing from the pick of the bunch.
This is most likely the most important appointment in our recent history.
we have burned through managers like s*** through a goose over the last few years.
Now I am reading that HFC are possibly basing their selection on not paying any compensation to a club to get a new manager.
Surely this is not the case? I would not like to think they choose SDG purely on that basis….
I am sure the selection will be on much more than that. His capability over the years, the games he has taken. Likely seen him develop as a coach and individual in terms of communication and leadership. Sometimes easier to promote from within due to the persons knowledge of how everything works and the people there including existing strong relationships.
MWHIBBIES
23-05-2024, 06:10 AM
Define recent history? Stubbs and Lennon appointments in the championship were far more important.
Typically managers who come in pre season for us have a decent first year.
We'll probably be fine with Gray in charge if it is him. Appointing him doesn't worry me as much with some experience around him.
Albert Kidd 86’
23-05-2024, 06:11 AM
I am sure the selection will be on much more than that. His capability over the years, the games he has taken. Likely seen him develop as a coach and individual in terms of communication and leadership. Sometimes easier to promote from within due to the persons knowledge of how everything works and the people there including existing strong relationships.
I appreciate what you are saying and I am not against SDG as next manager per se , I do however have a worry that it may be all a bit too comfortable if he takes over, when what we really need, IMHO, is a total rethink and change of direction on and off the pitch. I have a feeling that the set up of HFC is all a bit too comfortable and self serving behind the scenes.
I would like someone to come in and attempt to sharpen things up and turn our match day team into a no nonsense, no excuses fighting unit, not more if the same old same old.
JimBHibees
23-05-2024, 06:17 AM
I appreciate what you are saying and I am not against SDG as next manager per se , I do however have a worry that it may be all a bit too comfortable if he takes over, when what we really need, IMHO, is a total rethink and change of direction on and off the pitch. I have a feeling that the set up of HFC is all a bit too comfortable and self serving behind the scenes.
I would like someone to come in and attempt to sharpen things up and turn our match day team into a no nonsense, no excuses fighting unit, not more if the same old same old.
I think Gray may be able to do that seems lie he sort of guy people respond well to
Albert Kidd 86’
23-05-2024, 06:18 AM
Define recent history? Stubbs and Lennon appointments in the championship were far more important.
Typically managers who come in pre season for us have a decent first year.
We'll probably be fine with Gray in charge if it is him. Appointing him doesn't worry me as much with some experience around him.
What I mean is that this does feel like a watershed moment in that; if we get this wrong again, the likes of Hearts, Aberdeen and even Kilmarnock and St. Mirren will open a gap between us that will be difficult to close. What all those teams have over us already is a fighting spirit that sees them over the line, Aberdeen will undoubtedly not be as poor next season BTW.
what concerns me is the report that we are amongst other things; basing our selection on not paying any compensation, thereby eliminating a lot of names.
ALF TUPPER
23-05-2024, 06:48 AM
Id like Hibs to appoint an absolute crazy ******** of a coach who can turn whatever boy band tribute we sign next into a successful squad and not .... ( as Inspector Grimm would say ) a tippy_tappy arty_farty, hoity-toity namby_pamby,, wishy-washy, diddums half_cock sundried tomatoey, decaffeinated semi-skimmed,social worky, fold
_di_roll, blame it on society, psycho sicko socio_claptrap crap ...type.
😀 im available !!
Albert Kidd 86’
23-05-2024, 06:52 AM
id like hibs to appoint an absolute crazy ******** of a coach who can turn whatever boy band tribute we sign next into a successful squad and not .... ( as inspector grimm would say ) a tippy_tappy arty_farty, hoity-toity namby_pamby,, wishy-washy, diddums half_cock sundried tomatoey, decaffeinated semi-skimmed,social worky, fold
_di_roll, blame it on society, psycho sicko socio_claptrap crap ...type.
😀 im available !!
your hired!
ALF TUPPER
23-05-2024, 07:04 AM
your hired!
Haaaaaa ! Excellent 😁
Since452
23-05-2024, 07:30 AM
Be as well just appointing Malky now.
marinello59
23-05-2024, 08:36 AM
Be as well just appointing Malky now.
Would be worth it for the reaction on here alone. greengrin
Carheenlea
23-05-2024, 08:46 AM
I know McInnes has signed a new deal, but why is Robinson out of the running? Has he signed an extension as well?
Albert Kidd 86’
23-05-2024, 08:49 AM
I know McInnes has signed a new deal, but why is Robinson out of the running? Has he signed an extension as well?
as mentioned Hibs do not want to pay anyone compensation, which is my worry and reason for the post.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stephen-robinson-out-hibs-manager-32869785
Brightside
23-05-2024, 08:54 AM
All three early “favs” are now defo out of the picture for the Hibs manager.
Sir David Gray is only one left standing from the pick of the bunch.
This is most likely the most important appointment in our recent history.
we have burned through managers like s*** through a goose over the last few years.
Now I am reading that HFC are possibly basing their selection on not paying any compensation to a club to get a new manager.
Surely this is not the case? I would not like to think they choose SDG purely on that basis….
I wouldn't believe anything you read.
Hibby Kay-Yay
23-05-2024, 08:56 AM
as mentioned Hibs do not want to pay anyone compensation, which is my worry and reason for the post.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stephen-robinson-out-hibs-manager-32869785
So we have recently had an injection of cash. Perhaps Hibs are just trying to not get ripped off on over inflated compensation demands.
Hibernian Verse
23-05-2024, 08:59 AM
I wouldn't believe anything you read.
Unless it's on X, that's the place for all good information.
Donegal Hibby
23-05-2024, 09:15 AM
All three early “favs” are now defo out of the picture for the Hibs manager.
Sir David Gray is only one left standing from the pick of the bunch.
This is most likely the most important appointment in our recent history.
we have burned through managers like s*** through a goose over the last few years.
Now I am reading that HFC are possibly basing their selection on not paying any compensation to a club to get a new manager.
Surely this is not the case? I would not like to think they choose SDG purely on that basis….
I'll be glad if we have avoided the 3 of them for different reasons tbh .
I don't believe Gray is the only one left from the pick of the bunch , there will be a couple of others who will be in the running yet . That doesn't mean to say Gray won't get it though i doubt anything is decided one way or the other yet .
You could also say around the time of Stubbs or Lennon was too .
If Gray gets it , it will be because we think he's the best candidate to take us forward as will anyone else be that gets the job too .
Musselbound
23-05-2024, 09:17 AM
I know McInnes has signed a new deal, but why is Robinson out of the running? Has he signed an extension as well?
Not recently but he is contracted to St Mirren for another two seasons.
timewilltell
23-05-2024, 09:25 AM
I think Gray may be able to do that seems lie he sort of guy people respond well to
Sorry, but he’s been there throughout this debacle, and despite being likeable, would be a terrible appointment.
Donegal Hibby
23-05-2024, 09:34 AM
Sorry, but he’s been there throughout this debacle, and despite being likeable, would be a terrible appointment.
He wasn't the one that was calling the shots though in recent times when he's generally stepped in he's made a difference . As to him being a terrible appointment , nobody knows that , he could turn out to be the exact opposite of what you say and be a very good appointment too .
flash
23-05-2024, 09:40 AM
Sorry, but he’s been there throughout this debacle, and despite being likeable, would be a terrible appointment.
Bit ironic you writing him off before he even gets a chance with that username.......
WeeRussell
23-05-2024, 10:48 AM
Sorry, but he’s been there throughout this debacle, and despite being likeable, would be a terrible appointment.
Serious question though - what is it he’s done (or hasn’t done) in his roles with us so far that makes you so sure he’d be a terrible appointment?
Do you think our previous managers would have been a roaring success with someone other than David Gray filling the position he did?
We can’t just empty everyone associated with Hibs over the last few years.
RoxburghHibs
23-05-2024, 11:21 AM
as mentioned Hibs do not want to pay anyone compensation, which is my worry and reason for the post.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stephen-robinson-out-hibs-manager-32869785
And you believe the Daily Record?
allezsauzee
23-05-2024, 12:19 PM
I think it will be someone we don't need to pay compensation for but not SDG. I'm getting myself ready for Gegenpressing next season
erin go bragh
23-05-2024, 12:21 PM
Ronny Deila ticks all the boxes, get him signed Hibs.
portohibee
23-05-2024, 12:28 PM
as mentioned Hibs do not want to pay anyone compensation, which is my worry and reason for the post.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stephen-robinson-out-hibs-manager-32869785
I'm not reading to much into that statement about compensation, of course Hibs don't want to pay anything, who would? it doesn't mean to say the wont, the statement means nothing
sleeping giant
23-05-2024, 12:37 PM
I would be very surprised and also quite worried if we are not in a financial position to pay compo for the right manager.
I'm hoping it's bollox.
JimBHibees
23-05-2024, 12:59 PM
Sorry, but he’s been there throughout this debacle, and despite being likeable, would be a terrible appointment.
Why? He hasn’t been the head coach apart from a small number of games
JimBHibees
23-05-2024, 01:00 PM
I would be very surprised and also quite worried if we are not in a financial position to pay compo for the right manager.
I'm hoping it's bollox.
I think it might be
marinello59
23-05-2024, 01:00 PM
I would be very surprised and also quite worried if we are not in a financial position to pay compo for the right manager.
I'm hoping it's bollox.
We've spent a lot paying off previous managers, that's bound to have hit our budget hard.
chrisski33
23-05-2024, 01:07 PM
Wonder who the weirdos are ALF talks about 🤔
ekhibee
23-05-2024, 05:48 PM
Dunno about Gray as manager tbh. He might be fine of course, and I hope he is. What I hope he isn't is just a Yes man or puppet who jumps when Malky McKay says jump, and an apologist for the board. If that was the case we'd be as well having McKay as manager. I want a manager who's single-minded and makes his own decisions, obviously with a little help from support staff, and who will act decisively if the team or certain players aren't performing well regularly. Gray is quite close to the current team, there might be an element of them performing better for him because of it. Bringing new players in is going to be interesting, new relationships will need to be established. I'm not against David Gray getting the gig, and I was quite heartened that he is putting his name in the hat, whereas before he didn't feel the time was right. So I certainly wouldn't be against it with the proviso's above.
Iain G
23-05-2024, 06:46 PM
Wonder who the weirdos are ALF talks about 🤔
He reads Hibs.net apparently 😁
PHeffernan
24-05-2024, 01:08 AM
as mentioned Hibs do not want to pay anyone compensation, which is my worry and reason for the post.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stephen-robinson-out-hibs-manager-32869785
The Daily Record is your source and states
''would require a compensation package to be thrashed out - something Hibs are understood to prefer to avoid''
So what you have there is a comment with no source and no specifics AKA tabloid journalist made up click bait.
A twist added to spice up an otherwise dull article.
You've been had.
PHeffernan
24-05-2024, 01:11 AM
Wonder who the weirdos are ALF talks about 🤔
Bound to be Boyle for starters
PHeffernan
24-05-2024, 01:21 AM
Sorry, but he’s been there throughout this debacle, and despite being likeable, would be a terrible appointment.
What are this weekends lottery numbers?
Winston Ingram
24-05-2024, 05:46 AM
Ronny Deila ticks all the boxes, get him signed Hibs.
Does he?
Winston Ingram
24-05-2024, 05:53 AM
Why? He hasn’t been the head coach apart from a small number of games
The optics for a board with our track record, it would be an awful appointment. They can’t be seen to be taking another one.
2 out of our last 3 managers had little experience of managing at a decent level, and when we’ve sacked them it’s very easy to ridicule them for taking such a gamble.
They need to appoint someone with a solid track record at a decent level. If we go for another rookie, and he fails, their position will be untenable.
Since452
24-05-2024, 05:59 AM
Last time we appointed an experienced manager who had had prior success with a club in Scotland we finished 3rd and got to two cup finals and another two semi finals. Prior to him the last experienced manager with a club in Scotland finished 4th after gaining promotion at the first attempt and almost defended our cup. Maybe there's something in that?
JimBHibees
24-05-2024, 06:08 AM
The optics for a board with our track record, it would be an awful appointment. They can’t be seen to be taking another one.
2 out of our last 3 managers had little experience of managing at a decent level, and when we’ve sacked them it’s very easy to ridicule them for taking such a gamble.
They need to appoint someone with a solid track record at a decent level. If we go for another rookie, and he fails, their position will be untenable.
Tend to think whoever we choose and they fail some of higher up will be untenable. Of course there has been a fair bit of shuffling of roles recently
Last time we appointed an experienced manager who had had prior success with a club in Scotland we finished 3rd and got to two cup finals and another two semi finals. Prior to him the last experienced manager with a club in Scotland finished 4th after gaining promotion at the first attempt and almost defended our cup. Maybe there's something in that?
Williamson and butcher didn’t do so well
Nicho87
24-05-2024, 07:06 AM
Maybe we do go for Jack Ross
Would it be such a bad thing
Paul1642
24-05-2024, 10:14 AM
Williamson and butcher didn’t do so well
I think there’s a bit of hindsight with Williamson that he done better than it seemed at the time. Kept the ship steady during a period of large budget cuts, and left his successor (Mowbray) in a good position.
Dunno about Gray as manager tbh. He might be fine of course, and I hope he is. What I hope he isn't is just a Yes man or puppet who jumps when Malky McKay says jump, and an apologist for the board. If that was the case we'd be as well having McKay as manager. I want a manager who's single-minded and makes his own decisions, obviously with a little help from support staff, and who will act decisively if the team or certain players aren't performing well regularly. Gray is quite close to the current team, there might be an element of them performing better for him because of it. Bringing new players in is going to be interesting, new relationships will need to be established. I'm not against David Gray getting the gig, and I was quite heartened that he is putting his name in the hat, whereas before he didn't feel the time was right. So I certainly wouldn't be against it with the proviso's above.
Think Gray has applied before
Joe6-2
25-05-2024, 07:02 PM
Unless it's on X, that's the place for all good information.
Certainly not the Daily Hun
jacomo
26-05-2024, 08:26 AM
Define recent history? Stubbs and Lennon appointments in the championship were far more important.
Typically managers who come in pre season for us have a decent first year.
We'll probably be fine with Gray in charge if it is him. Appointing him doesn't worry me as much with some experience around him.
:agree:
SDG’s credentials are as good as anyone, unless Steve Clarke fancies a new challenge after the Euros.
lucky
26-05-2024, 08:48 AM
:agree:
SDG’s credentials are as good as anyone, unless Steve Clarke fancies a new challenge after the Euros.
SDG has no experience leading a club as a head coach. Hibs need an experienced head coach with an understanding of Scottish football. We also need stability as we can't keep taking risks with rookie coaches.
Eyrie
26-05-2024, 09:17 AM
SDG has no experience leading a club as a head coach. Hibs need an experienced head coach with an understanding of Scottish football. We also need stability as we can't keep taking risks with rookie coaches.
The only qualification required is that the new manager is a success. Experience and/or a knowledge of Scottish football would help but neither is essential. Gray does have the latter in his favour.
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