2024 General Election

[Scorrie]

A rebuild for the SNP needed. That’s a shocking result

[marinello59]

What channel is everyone watching?

I'm going with Balls, Osborne and Sturgeon on ITV for now. Osborne being very gracious this far.

Switching between them all. I’m already over excited. :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

It was needed. Might sound crazy now but in the long run I think it will benefit the independence movement.

Wake up call for culture warriors who took over the party for a few years. Massive job now for Swinney an Forbes. Not even sure Flynn survives.


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[Bristolhibby]

That's my thinking, I think returning low 20's or even high teens would be worse than a complete tanking.

Could be the kick up the arse for the Scottish Parlimentary elections.

J

[Andy Bee]

With that SNP number I very much doubt that Flynn has made it.

[Colr]

That Reform number is troubling.

Plenty of Fascists in this country.

[Northernhibee]

Nadine Dorries is just the worst human being. And she’s in a studio with Ann Widdecombe FFS.

[marinello59]

Wake up call for culture warriors who took over the party for a few years. Massive job now for Swinney an Forbes. Not even sure Flynn survives.


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Flynn is in a straight fight with a Tory , I think he will be ok.

[Northernhibee]

Ed Balls said as much.

Macron siezed the centre in France and it emboldened rather than obliterated the far right.

It would be folly to say it was a bad night for Starmer but he has to deliver now.

I never thought I would ever say it, but the saving grace is that the Tory numbers aren’t as bad as some polls expected. If they had under 100 seats I would have a real fear of Reform becoming the voice of the right in England over the Tories if the Tories couldn’t form an effective opposition.

[marinello59]

The more I see of the exit poll the more convinced I am that the SNP will still have seats in the mid twenties at least.

[jamie_1875]

Wake up call for culture warriors who took over the party for a few years. Massive job now for Swinney an Forbes. Not even sure Flynn survives.


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Lots of SNP supporters had their heads in the sand for years, lots of warnings about pursuing gender reform and other policies like hate crime and deposit return schemes. I think the gender reform was dismissed as a niche issue that would disappear and nobody was interested but it blew up.

Nicola Sturgeon takes the blame here if the 10 seats are accurate.

[Andy Bee]

Looking at the STV election map they have 11 Tory seats so far, never happening.

[DaveF]

If those numbers are right then I hope all those Indy supporters who voted labour are ready for constant 'scotland rejects independence' volleys from Sarwar and co.

It's going to be a long 2 years 🙂

[Bristolhibby]

The more I see of the exit poll the more convinced I am that the SNP will still have seats in the mid twenties at least.

ITV admit that their Scotland numbers are all taken with a massive pinch of salt.

J

[JimBHibees]

No chance of that being correct.

Not so sure

[Hibrandenburg]

That's my thinking, I think returning low 20's or even high teens would be worse than a complete tanking.

:agree:

The onus is now on Labour to prove that they can govern with an even hand. Voters in Scotland will soon realise that Labour MPs in Scottish constituencies having to tow the UK party line will not necessarily benefit Scotland.

[marinello59]

Just wondering if anyone here was approached by the exit pollsters?

[allmodcons]

The more I see of the exit poll the more convinced I am that the SNP will still have seats in the mid twenties at least.

What makes you say that ?

[Stairway 2 7]

Why did they mention a defacto referendum if they weren't confident of winning, will be used repeatedly.

Such a bizarre feeling gutted about Scotland, Starmer will be mince but overjoyed at the end of this tory party.

Watching Steve Baker find out live on BBC that he is projected to lose was great

[Hiber-nation]

The more I see of the exit poll the more convinced I am that the SNP will still have seats in the mid twenties at least.

These things are usually pretty accurate. I can't see any more than 16.

[Northernhibee]

Nadine Dorries is so dense that l might need to switch from Channel 4 to BBC.

[Pretty Boy]

It's now a huge 2 years for the SNP if they don't want to become Québec revisited. Probably proof, if any were needed, that nothing is inevitable (apart from Hearts not winning the League Cup).

I suppose stagnation in support for independence was always going to lead to erosion in support for the SNP over a relatively extended period of time. The growth in support during the referendum campaign never really went anywhere meaningful in the decade since and there arguably isn't scope for it to do so in the short to medium term. There just aren't that many people likely to change their minds, a majority are entrenched one way or another.

[jamie_1875]

Why did they mention a defacto referendum if they weren't confident of winning, will be used repeatedly.

Such a bizarre feeling gutted about Scotland, Starmer will be mince but overjoyed at the end of this tory party.

Watching Steve Baker find out live on BBC that he is projected to lose was great

The de facto referendum was a silly idea, everyone knew that but what else could they do? Vote for us again so we can do nothing to advance Independence for another 5 years please?

[GlesgaeHibby]

Exit poll has Wishart losing his seat. Superb.

[Andy Bee]

So if the poll is correct, who's the 10?

[Andy Bee]

Exit poll has Wishart losing his seat. Superb.

Wishart, Nicholson, Smyth, the whole party will be weeded out

[marinello59]

Exit poll has Wishart losing his seat. Superb.

Good.

[Pretty Boy]

How is 30p Lee looking?

Of all the people I would like to see lose their seat that crass, ignorant, arrogant, duplicitous, uncompassionate class traitor would be near the top of the list.

[jamie_1875]

Scottish Tories saying even they don't believe the exit poll as it has them winning seats they don't expect to win.

[Jim44]

Assuming the exit polls are fairly accurate, they are saying that Reform will get 13 seats. The pundits are saying that means Farage will be in a very powerful position. Declaring my ignorance of political subtleties, what does this really mean?

[Northernhibee]

How is 30p Lee looking?

Of all the people I would like to see lose their seat that crass, ignorant, arrogant, duplicitous, uncompassionate class traitor would be near the top of the list.

If Reform have got 13 seats I’d be amazed if he wasn’t one of them.

[Colr]

Assuming the exit polls are fairly accurate, they are saying that Reform will get 13 seats. The pundits are saying that means Farage will be in a very powerful position. Declaring my ignorance of political subtleties, what does this really mean?

It means our Grandfathers or Great Grandfathers will be turning in their graves!

[Bristolhibby]

Scottish Tories saying even they don't believe the exit poll as it has them winning seats they don't expect to win.

The polls are largely governed by Englands numbers. The dynamic in Scotland is simply too different to be able to extrapolate into Scotland.

I would take that 10 with a pinch of salt.

J

[jamie_1875]

Another big issue for the SNP is the loss of Westminster short money, they got over £1.3M last year. To lose a big chunk of that is going to hit their head office staff.

[CL0762]

Assuming the exit polls are fairly accurate, they are saying that Reform will get 13 seats. The pundits are saying that means Farage will be in a very powerful position. Declaring my ignorance of political subtleties, what does this really mean?

He’ll be shouting like a madman in the commons every day now whenever he decides to show up.

[Bristolhibby]

He’ll be shouting like a madman in the commons every day now whenever he decides to show up.

Oh he’ll show up. Garage has been trying for years to become a MP.

Beeb just saying the Reform and SNP numbers may be a bit duff.

They are more confident on the reform number. Less sampling points in Scotland means less accuracy.

J

[Pretty Boy]

Right bed for me for a few hours. Back up about 2 when things actually start to happen.

The downtime between exit poll and results really rolling in is a bit like that bit at a wedding when the families are getting pictures taken and everyone else is just standing about with not a lot happening (albeit both can be massaged with booze but I have a long drive tomorrow).

[Colr]

He’ll be shouting like a madman in the commons every day now whenever he decides to show up.

I reckon he will as good an MP as Galloway. Regrettably, he’ll have his band of Union Jack-arsed baboons behind him as he did in the EU parliament to back him up.

[lapsedhibee]

Assuming the exit polls are fairly accurate, they are saying that Reform will get 13 seats. The pundits are saying that means Farage will be in a very powerful position. Declaring my ignorance of political subtleties, what does this really mean?

Now that he's an elected MP, he'll be invited on to Question Time quite a bit to spout his bile.

[Bristolhibby]

Kussberg loving the fact that the “push for Independence” has become significantly harder.

J

[marinello59]

Assuming the exit polls are fairly accurate, they are saying that Reform will get 13 seats. The pundits are saying that means Farage will be in a very powerful position. Declaring my ignorance of political subtleties, what does this really mean?

Subtleties and Farage mentioned in the same breath. :greengrin
He will do what he did in the European Parliament, get up everyone else’s nose and max out on the expenses.

[wookie70]

I find it inconceivable the Tories can win as many as 113. I am also really worried that Reform may have got double figures. I thought our neighbours were pretty deranged in terms of their politics but this takes it a stage further.

I ended up voting SNP but it was close between them and none of the above. They absolutely deserve to get pumped as they have simply not remembered how they ended up being so successful in the first place. Independence first and foremost. I still think Corbyn will end up as having got more votes in a massive loss than Starmer will get in a massive win. That is how ridiculous British Politics is.

[jamie_1875]

The more I see the detail the more I think is BS. It has the Scottish Tories winning more seats than the SNP in Scotland, that's not happening.

[Andy Bee]

BBC just mentioned 12 seats now for the Tories in Scotland, whata loada bollox

[Bristolhibby]

BBC just mentioned 12 seats now for the Tories in Scotland, whata loada bollox

I know right?!?

J

[danhibees1875]

Right bed for me for a few hours. Back up about 2 when things actually start to happen.

The downtime between exit poll and results really rolling in is a bit like that bit at a wedding when the families are getting pictures taken and everyone else is just standing about with not a lot happening (albeit both can be massaged with booze but I have a long drive tomorrow).

Election night canapés is a policy I could get behind actually.

[Colr]

Kussberg loving the fact that the “push for Independence” has become significantly harder.

J

It’s like listening to Lord Haw-haw!

[Silversand]

Will be interesting to see what "Labour Change" is going to look like.

If it's just Tory-lite under a red rosette, then he'll be a 1 term wonder.

Holyrood elections 2 years away [emoji848]

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[Andy Bee]

Wow, 51% turnout, that's local Government election numbers in Sunderland.

[Dmas]

Wow, 51% turnout, that's local Government election numbers in Sunderland.

11k votes for reform just as worrying

[Scorrie]

That Reform vote in Sunderland south is pretty significant. They could be on for a major share of the vote

[Silversand]

Wow, 51% turnout, that's local Government election numbers in Sunderland.3.4% swing to Reform is horrific [emoji22]

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[Andy Bee]

11k votes for reform just as worrying

Yup, not that much Labour landslide more Reform killing the Tories.

[easty]

Right bed for me for a few hours. Back up about 2 when things actually start to happen.

The downtime between exit poll and results really rolling in is a bit like that bit at a wedding when the families are getting pictures taken and everyone else is just standing about with not a lot happening (albeit both can be massaged with booze but I have a long drive tomorrow).

Argentina v Ecuador, copa America quarter final, starts at 2 as well.

If I’m still up it’ll be one on the telly, with the other on the laptop

[Colr]

3.4% swing to Reform is horrific [emoji22]

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I’d like to see Yvette Cooper be given the job of dissecting Farage and his brown shirt mates. She’s brilliant at making pompous right-wingers look stupid and they hate nothing more than being made to look like fools.

[marinello59]

The Blyth returning officer’s outfit is magnificent. I initially though we were looking at a Raving Loony candidate. :greengrin

[Dmas]

Another crazy number for reform in blyth

[wookie70]

3.4% swing to Reform is horrific [emoji22]

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The swing to right wing parties since 2017 is the biggest story for me. Labour vote with Corbyn as leader in 2017 in Houghton and Sunderland was 59.5% with UKIP and Tories 35.4%. This time round 42.9% much further right wing vote. We are an election or two away from a situation like we are seeing in France imo. So Corbyn's Labour got 12.4% more than Starmers in that constituency. Similar story in Blyth. Less Labour votes than 2017 and more right wing votes.

[Northernhibee]

Another crazy number for reform in blyth

I have a feeling we may see a fair few more seats for them than predicted. It’s like the Brexit vote all over again.

[Andy Bee]

What was the numbers in Blyth, I was too busy shouting at the TV and Kirsty ****** Wark.?

[wookie70]

I'm going to predict that Labour under Starmer will get less overall votes than Labour got under Corbyn in either 2017 or 2019.

[BroxburnHibee]

As much as I like the TRIP guys I can't watch C4 with Dorries and Widdecombe.

I can't believe the Tories win more seats than SNP in Scotland I suspect that poll is flawed.

Reform are clearly obliterating the Tory vote

[Dmas]

I have a feeling we may see a fair few more seats for them than predicted. It’s like the Brexit vote all over again.

It’s a slippery slope, the Tory party will push further right to take these votes which will push reform further again, the next election could be rough going, a strong Labour term will be needed or as the poster above said we could be looking at same as what france is facing now

[marinello59]

Burnham and Davidson are having a few tasty exchanges now on Sky. Very entertaining.

[Colr]

I'm going to predict that Labour under Starmer will get less overall votes than Labour got under Corbyn in either 2017 or 2019.

If only you could win a football match by getting the most corners.

[Colr]

As much as I like the TRIP guys I can't watch C4 with Dorries and Widdecombe.

I can't believe the Tories win more seats than SNP in Scotland I suspect that poll is flawed.

Reform are clearly obliterating the Tory vote


And next to no Reform in Scotland, I’m guessing

[Stairway 2 7]

I'm going to predict that Labour under Starmer will get less overall votes than Labour got under Corbyn in either 2017 or 2019.

That's been obvious for a month. Probably is Corbyn had them concentrated in certain seats Starmer’s will be more spread. The bigger problem is the torys vote against him was absolutely massive. It's been clear Labour were going to have a landslide and that usually means small turnout. Think the turnout will be tiny.

The longer reform are a party the better for Labour FPTP means two parties on the same side is a hindrance. We'd be in more trouble if we had PR, in saying that left parties with Labour would still easily beat Tory reform if we did have PR this year

[Colr]

It’s a slippery slope, the Tory party will push further right to take these votes which will push reform further again, the next election could be rough going, a strong Labour term will be needed or as the poster above said we could be looking at same as what france is facing now

Labour stood up to its extremists. The Tories have been dancing to their extremists tune for decades now. Centrist Tories will be repelled if they lurch further right. They are in a terminal position.

[Colr]

Be interesting to see the result for Corbyn in Islington.

[Stairway 2 7]

Reform doing much better in leave seats it seems. We're out of the EU what are they wanting us to stop all trade and movement, radges

[Ozyhibby]

Reform doing much better in leave seats it seems. We're out of the EU what are they wanting us to stop all trade and movement, radges

It’s immigration. It was always immigration.
Personally I’m in favour of immigration but the price of it being high appears to be the rise of the fascists. That’s a price too high for me.
If the centrist parties don’t start to sort it then people are going to turn more to the right.
They have trusted Labour this time but the warning is there.


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[overdrive]

Reform doing much better in leave seats it seems. We're out of the EU what are they wanting us to stop all trade and movement, radges

Foreigners.

[wookie70]

Be interesting to see the result for Corbyn in Islington. He will win easily imo.

[Ozyhibby]

Labour vote hasn’t really risen.


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[Andy Bee]

Reform knocking on the door again in Sunderland with another low 50's% turnout.

[jamie_1875]

He will win easily imo.

He was behind Labour in a poll in his constituency a few weeks ago.

[Stairway 2 7]

Labour vote hasn’t really risen.


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We've seen 3 seats so far where brexit, ukip and leave done well, more interested in more neutral seats

[Stairway 2 7]

Can't see it at all, but lots of close seats it seems

Luke Bailey
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The exit poll has these numbers for parties that are favoured (rather than the probabilistic model). Still a fair bit of possible movement.
Lab - 411
Con - 141
Lib Dem - 59
Ref - 6
Plaid - 4
SNP- 7
Gre - 2

[Colr]

Mandelson is right that one of the big tasks for Labour is to rebuild trust. It’s important for them.

Are Reform going to destroy the Tory party?

[Colr]

He was behind Labour in a poll in his constituency a few weeks ago.

Could split the vote. I’ve heard he is less popular amongst the constituents than he is with his acolytes. We’ll see.

[Callum_62]

Douglass Ross seat on a shoogly peg it appears

Hopefully the exit poll in Scotland proves to be way off

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[Ozyhibby]

Douglass Ross seat on a shoogly peg it appears

Hopefully the exit poll in Scotland proves to be way off

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Until we get our first Scottish result it’s hard to tell.


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[BroxburnHibee]

Turnout is terrible. I'm in favour of compulsory voting

[marinello59]

The exit poll is predicting that Reform will come second to the Lib Dems in Orkney and Shetland. Not having that.

[Ozyhibby]

The exit poll is predicting that Reform will come second to the Lib Dems in Orkney and Shetland. Not having that.

The SNP have done our bit in stopping the boats for them.[emoji6][emoji23]


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[jamie_1875]

Peter Smith on ITN making a good point (almost taking a bit of glee in it) about how SNP had Independence page 1 line 1 in their manifesto for Independence and what does that mean now. Sturgeon squirming back in the studio admitting she may have failed with that policy, but then bizarrely blames the SNP for not pushing Independence hard enough.

[Stairway 2 7]

Bbc missed Swindon, Robert Buckland defeated

@PolitlcsUK
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🔴 BREAKING: Labour GAINS Swinford South from the Tories (Robert Buckland's Seat)

LAB: 21,676
CON: 12,070
REF: 6,194
GRN: 2,539
OTH: 2,315

[jamie_1875]

Mhari Black blaming the rain for the poor SNP vote.

[wookie70]

Peter Smith on ITN making a good point (almost taking a bit of glee in it) about how SNP had Independence page 1 line 1 in their manifesto for Independence and what does that mean now. Sturgeon squirming back in the studio admitting she may have failed with that policy, but then bizarrely blames the SNP for not pushing Independence hard enough. I thought she was spot on. The SNP have talked more about England than Scotland in this election and have barely mentioned Independence. How many voters do you think read manifestos. They have stopped doing what made them successful, Independence and competence.

[jamie_1875]

I thought she was spot on. The SNP have talked more about England than Scotland in this election and have barely mentioned Independence. How many voters do you think read manifestos. They have stopped doing what made them successful, Independence and competence.

Independence page 1 line 1, Independence is on the ballot paper, this election is about Independence is all words from Swinney and Flynn. Maybe the SNP just tried to be all things to all SNP supporters and had mixed messages.

And don't forget it was supposed to be a de facto referendum.

[Stairway 2 7]

I thought she was spot on. The SNP have talked more about England than Scotland in this election and have barely mentioned Independence. How many voters do you think read manifestos. They have stopped doing what made them successful, Independence and competence.

She's spot in what she said but it doesn't make it utterly bizarre because she led them down this path and their poll collapse was mostly in her time. She never put independence front and centre for the last two years she was in charge. This conservative government and brexit gave us the best chance to get independence. Due to the defacto referendum she championed whilst having poor numbers, independence is the furthest away in decades

[marinello59]

She's spot in what she said but it doesn't make it utterly bizarre because she led them down this path and their poll collapse was mostly in her time. She never put independence front and centre for the last two years she was in charge. This conservative government and brexit gave us the best chance to get independence. Due to the defacto referendum she championed whilst having poor numbers, independence is the furthest away in decades

:agree:
Tonight is her legacy.

[jamie_1875]

:agree:
Tonight is her legacy.

Indeed, and why wasn't she arrested at 6am this morning just before the polls opened if there was some shady goings on with the police investigation into the SNP finances. Maybe after all the police and crown office are just getting on with the job on their own timelines and there is no political motive after all.

[Andy Bee]

Another low turnout at low 50's again down 9% in Newcastle, people are seriously pissed off.

[Stairway 2 7]

Interesting from Jeremy Vine says it looks like Labour have targeted only the seats the need. Polls show no gain in safe seats but massive swings in target seats, shows in Swindon where they had a 16% swing from the Tories. Will have to see if that pans out

Looks like Corbyn might nab it but close, looks like Galloway will lose

[marinello59]

I’m loving the rotating cast on Sky. Mick Lynch and Margaret Hodge going head to head was fun.

[Scorrie]

I’m loving the rotating cast on Sky. Mick Lynch and Margaret Hodge going head to head was fun.

Got to say Mick Lynch is pretty much spot on if Labour is to head off Reform over the next 5 years.

[marinello59]

Got to say Mick Lynch is pretty much spot on if Labour is to head off Reform over the next 5 years.

:agree:

[Stairway 2 7]

Times saying Rishi will resign in the morning. Will be remembered for killing people with eat out help out and standing in the rain

[Bristolhibby]

Got to say Mick Lynch is pretty much spot on if Labour is to head off Reform over the next 5 years.

What did he say?

I’m on ITV.

J

[BroxburnHibee]

Yvette Coopers seat under threat apparently.

Mordaunts is too close to call...

[Andy Bee]

Just switched over to Sky, a contentious point and probably a wee bit childish but does anyone think Rachel Reeves could quite easily be a member of Thunderbirds?

[Scorrie]

What did he say?

I’m on ITV.

J

Main point was decent council housing and good quality homes for working class communities. And that Labour had to be bolder about thier program. A bit vanilla he called it. Got to give people something to believe in and deliver real improvements

[overdrive]

Just switched over to Sky, a contentious point and probably a wee bit childish but does anyone think Rachel Reeves could quite easily be a member of Thunderbirds?

More Jackie from Friday Night Dinner.

[Andy Bee]

More Jackie from Friday Night Dinner.

:hilarious

[1875godsgift]

Another low turnout at low 50's again down 9% in Newcastle, people are seriously pissed off.

Low turnout could be because of having to have photo ID? Not everyone has a driving licence, passport, especially younger people.

[Andy Bee]

Low turnout could be because of having to have photo ID? Not everyone has a driving licence, passport, especially younger people.

Could be C but I chatted with a couple of admins I know at my polling station and they both said it hadn't been an issue, 1 voter turned away all day who then returned with ID then voted.

[marinello59]

Reform outperforming the Tories in Glasgow. It won’t make any difference to results, it’s SNP v Labour there, but more bad news for the Tories.

[Andy Bee]

Reform outperforming the Tories in Glasgow. It won’t make any difference to results, it’s SNP v Labour there, but more bad news for the Tories.

It beggars belief why anyone would vote Reform in Glasgow

[marinello59]

It beggars belief why anyone would vote Reform in Glasgow

For the same reasons they vote for them across the UK.

[BroxburnHibee]

Lab hold Barnsley North.

The exit poll gave it to Reform.

[Stairway 2 7]

Lab hold Barnsley North.

The exit poll gave it to Reform.

Almost 8k majority aswell

[BroxburnHibee]

I'm deeply suspicious of this exit poll. Why has there been no Scottish results yet. Seems slow

[marinello59]

I'm deeply suspicious of this exit poll. Why has there been no Scottish results yet. Seems slow

It’s normal. Results are later in Scotland, Aberdeen South may be the first one in.

[BroxburnHibee]

Lee Anderson wins. Booooooo

[Andy Bee]

Wow 30p Lee absolutely kills it

[Andy Bee]

I'm deeply suspicious of this exit poll. Why has there been no Scottish results yet. Seems slow

They're on the ferry FFS

[Andy Bee]

Douglas Alexander back in?

[jamie_1875]

https://x.com/STVNews/status/1809031348750856442?t=JzDzdxexOj-RBhUVL-uRuA&s=19

Police remove Glasgow ballots in suspected voter fraud.

[Stairway 2 7]

Labour win both Barnsleys, they were both reform in the exit poll, majorities of 8k and 5k

[marinello59]

Galloway loses and doesn’t have the guts to take to the stage. Good riddance.

[Stairway 2 7]

Galloway loses and doesn’t have the guts to take to the stage. Good riddance.

Pathetic he'll appear on Sputnik news but to embarrassed to stand with dignity in defeat

[Paul1642]

First SNP loss.

[Stairway 2 7]

Labour win in hartlepool it was projected to be reform they won by 8k, one Conservative hold means reform definitely not getting 4 of the 13

[Andy Bee]

Galloway loses and doesn’t have the guts to take to the stage. Good riddance.

You could feel the tension in that clip of the results, there's no place for that twat in politics and people need to realise that and vote accordingly if there's a next time.

[Stairway 2 7]

First SNP loss.

Labour win by 4k this was one of SNPs 10

[marinello59]

That’s a massive Labour win in West Dunbartonshire.

[Andy Bee]

I'm never eating a Killie pie ever again.

[jamie_1875]

10 seats is looking ambitious now.

[Andy Bee]

Flynn holds his seat

[Andy Bee]

As has Kirsty Blackman. erm wtf

[jamie_1875]

Flynn holds his seat

It's not declared yet has it?

[marinello59]

10 seats is looking ambitious now.

A long way to go yet.

[Andy Bee]

It's not declared yet has it?

If Nicola Sturgeon says its true then surely it is, erm naw?

[marinello59]

It's not declared yet has it?

Gossip from the count is that he is safe.

[jamie_1875]

That Geoff Aberdein seems sensible and makes sense, why isn't he in a role back in the SNP as he sounds very much like someone they could do with now.

[marinello59]

As has Kirsty Blackman. erm wtf

Her seat was never in doubt. Pity, a dreadful constituency MP.

[Andy Bee]

That Geoff Aberdein seems sensible and makes sense, why isn't he in a role back in the SNP as he sounds very much like someone they could do with now.

Because he's Alex Salmonds ex advisor

[Stairway 2 7]

18% and 22% swing from snp to Labour in the 2 Scottish seats

[Andy Bee]

Her seat was never in doubt. Pity, a dreadful constituency MP.

Agreed, I took it for granted she would be one of the first out, I give up :greengrin

[jamie_1875]

One for the geeks but one of the very first things Kier Starmer will do tomorrow is write the letters of last resort. He will write 4 identical letters that will go to the commanding officers of the Trident Submarines and will include instructions on what to do in the event or a nuclear war and the loss of communication with central government.

[Andy Bee]

10k down on Starmars vote. He's got a battle coming pretty soon.

[Andy Bee]

One for the geeks but one of the very first things Kier Starmer will do tomorrow is write the letters of last resort. He will write 4 identical letters that will go to the commanding officers of the Trident Submarines and will include instructions on what to do in the event or a nuclear war and the loss of communication with central government.


Stick one on my address coz I've had enough.

[marinello59]

Stick one on my address coz I've had enough.

:greengrin

[Paul1642]

The images from Basildon are just plain weird.

[marinello59]

Paisley and Renfrewshire South going Labour as well, another big win. Remarkable swings.

[Stairway 2 7]

20% swing from SNP to Labour in paisley south for Labour to gain

[marinello59]

Bye bye Shapps :greengrin

[Stairway 2 7]

Ooft Grant Shapps beat by Labour by 3.8k, glad to see the back of the chancer, defence secretary gone

[Andy Bee]

Bye bye Shapps :greengrin

These are the moments when life is worth living :greengrin

[Stairway 2 7]

Justice Secretary Alex Chalk losses his Cheltenham seat to the Lib Dems 2 cabinet ministers

[Andy Bee]

Duncan Smith retains his seat

[jamie_1875]

Douglas Alexanders majority in East Lothian! Wow.

[marinello59]

East Lothian gone from the SNP now as well, huge swing again.

[SteveHFC]

Where do we all think what will happen to the SNP if the exit poll
Is right?

[Stairway 2 7]

Another chancer Douglas Alexander wins, 16% swing

[Andy Bee]

Where do we all think what will happen to the SNP if the exit poll
Is right?

Hopefully they'll circle the wagons around the Scottish elections and go full tonto Indy in 2026

[Andy Bee]

Another chancer Douglas Alexander wins, 16% swing

He's an absolute rogue, I'm really gutted about this one.

[jamie_1875]

Blair McDougal wins with a massive majority.

[jamie_1875]

Hopefully they'll circle the wagons around the Scottish elections and go full tonto Indy in 2026

What does they mean though? Put it on line 1 page 1 on the manifesto? Make it a de facto referendum? Say the vote is about Independence, say Independence is on the ballot paper?

Tried that, it failed.

[marinello59]

Blackman holds on , never in doubt but Labour came closer than expected.
I was really confident that the exit polls were wrong. The size of the swings has me a wee bit less confident now.

[Stairway 2 7]

Blair McDougal wins with a massive majority.

Wow Labour were third last time

[marinello59]

He's an absolute rogue, I'm really gutted about this one.

I hope you have beer there. Killie pies gone but on the plus side Aberdeen butteries are still on the menu for you.

[Andy Bee]

Wow Corbyn smashes it, pleased with that.

[MartinfaePorty]

The serial loser finally wins an election. God help us all.

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[weecounty hibby]

Where do we all think what will happen to the SNP if the exit poll
Is right?

The exit polls are wrong. We won't win 10. Single figures I'm afraid by the looks of things and what we're hearing from across scotland

[Andy Bee]

I hope you have beer there. Killie pies gone but on the plus side Aberdeen butteries are still on the menu for you.

I'm still holding out hope for the Forfar Bridies :greengrin

[Callum_62]

Maurdaunt losing her seat it seems



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[marinello59]

I'm still holding out hope for the Forfar Bridies :greengrin

:greengrin

[Stairway 2 7]

Labour win East Killbridge & Strathhaven from the SNP, massive swing again

[Andy Bee]

The exit polls are wrong. We won't win 10. Single figures I'm afraid by the looks of things and what we're hearing from across scotland

I actually think the lower the better now.

[Stairway 2 7]

Labour gain Midlothian from SNP

[Andy Bee]

Ashworth lost his seat, LLLLLooooollllll

[grunt]

Farage gets in. We really need independence from a country which can elect a fascist like him. Bad time for the snp to collapse.

[marinello59]

Flynn safe as expected, a good old fashioned three way fight there. A good result for the SNP.

[Moulin Yarns]

I'm still holding out hope for the Forfar Bridies :greengrin

Oh god, please. That's my constituency.

[weecounty hibby]

Farage gets in. We really need independence from a country which can elect a fascist like him. Bad time for the snp to collapse.

Wait till you see how they have polled in Scotland. It is very worrying

[Callum_62]

Senior Labour sources in Scotland now think the party will surpass their highest expectations - and win more than 30 seats

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[jamie_1875]

Flynn holds on which ironically could make it harder for him to become leader, as he would now need to resign his seat to run for Holyrood.

Giving a speech about how the SNP must listen to what the people of Scotland are saying tonight.

[Stairway 2 7]

Wait till you see how they have polled in Scotland. It is very worrying

Not just polled they are getting thousands in each seat, miles ahead of the greens, brutal

[Callum_62]

Wait till you see how they have polled in Scotland. It is very worryingAnd that's without actual visable/ totally fictitious candidates!

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[Stairway 2 7]

Flynn holds on which ironically could make it harder for him to become leader, as he would now need to resign his seat to run for Holyrood.

Giving a speech about how the SNP must listen to what the people of Scotland are saying tonight.

Clearly the best SNP politician

Was like a leadership speech. We were well be but we have to change and rebuild

[weecounty hibby]

Not just polled they are getting thousands in each seat, miles ahead of the greens, brutal
Yip, I'm a count agent tonight and it was so so disappointing to see how many Reform votes were coming through

[Callum_62]

BBC prediction is now snp 6 (down 4) and reform 4 (down 9)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240705/15954224f69c95cad7750296c87c600c.jpg

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[Moulin Yarns]

Snp predicted to only have 6 seats.

[jamie_1875]

Clearly the best SNP politician

Was like a leadership speech. We were well be but we have to change and rebuild

I don't know what that means, what does a rebuild for the SNP look like? Focus more on Indy? Focus less on Indy and more on competent government?

[marinello59]

Flynn spoke well, sounded like a leadership pitch to me.

[Stairway 2 7]

BBC prediction is now snp 6 (down 4) and reform 4 (down 9)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240705/15954224f69c95cad7750296c87c600c.jpg

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Wow unbelievable 12 hours ago, I thought 20 was unbelievable

Labour gain Falkirk from SNP as I type

[grunt]

Snp predicted to only have 6 seats.

I despair for this country.

[Andy Bee]

This could be an interesting night for Plaid

[grunt]

Gullis and Fabricant gone so not all bad news.

[Stairway 2 7]

I don't know what that means, what does a rebuild for the SNP look like? Focus more on Indy? Focus less on Indy and more on competent government?

In my opinion focus on the middle it's the only way you win. They spent all there efforts keeping one group happy focusing on unpopular policies and culture wars. Win the middle to get independence then we will be able to shape Scotland however we like

[grunt]

In my opinion focus on the middle it's the only way you win. They spent all there efforts keeping one group happy focusing on unpopular policies and culture wars. Win the middle to get independence then we will be able to shape Scotland however we like

What's the middle?

[Andy Bee]

Alloa and Grangemouth should be interesting with Eva Comrie, Nicholson and Kenny MaCaskill.

[MartinfaePorty]

That's a decent majority for Wishart, especially after all the predictions he'd be toast.

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[marinello59]

Looks like the SNP will retain Dundee Central by a few hundred votes. That would have been a devastating loss.

[jamie_1875]

Pete Wishart holds on to Perth.

[Andy Bee]

That's a decent majority for Wishart, especially after all the predictions he'd be toast.

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No way, you on the wind up?

[marinello59]

That's a decent majority for Wishart, especially after all the predictions he'd be toast.

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Gutted. What’s the local delicacy so I can boycott it? :greengrin

[Moulin Yarns]

Pete Wishart wins Perth and Perthshire South

[Stairway 2 7]

What's the middle?

Swing voters 35% are always going to vote for yes or no and the matching parties, the focus should be on the swing voters

[Stairway 2 7]

Labour gains Rutherglen from SNP

[Stairway 2 7]

Lewis Goodall
@lewis_goodall
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8m
NEW: Astounding result. Labour GAIN Bury St Edmunds in Suffolk.

Has been Conseravtive since 1820.

[Moulin Yarns]

Gutted. What’s the local delicacy so I can boycott it? :greengrin

Scotch pie in a roll. Or Greggs.

[marinello59]

Scotch pie in a roll. Or Greggs.

Stuff that then, I’d starve. :greengrin

[Stairway 2 7]

Labour take Hamilton from SNP

[marinello59]

SNP on 4 seats now.

[Andy Bee]

Tories win Basildon by 20 votes.

[grunt]

Swing voters 35% are always going to vote for yes or no and the matching parties, the focus should be on the swing voters

Right. Got that.

[Andy Bee]

SNP on 4 seats now.

I'm crackin out the red wine

[Andy Bee]

Tice and Farage both in FFS

[Callum_62]

England eh - voting in 30p Lee, Farage and Tice



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[Andy Bee]

Is that Ben Habib bloke been declared yet?

[weecounty hibby]

Alloa and Grangemouth should be interesting with Eva Comrie, Nicholson and Kenny MaCaskill.

Only going one way I'm afraid

[marinello59]

England eh - voting in 30p Lee, Farage and Tice



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There are a fair few Scots voting Reform as well.

[grunt]

Braverman reelected. A bad night for those who dislike fascism.

[Callum_62]

There are a fair few Scots voting Reform as well.We haven't returned a Reform MP have we?

Edit

So far in Scotland reform have a 6.9 percent share

In England they have a 16.3 percent share



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[Andy Bee]

Only going one way I'm afraid

Yup I think so, that's what happens when people with like minded beliefs fight with each other.

[Stairway 2 7]

We haven't returned a Reform MP have we?

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To be fair they will probably only get a handful of seats uk wide. More worrying is they have got thousands of votes in almost every seat in the UK if we had PR they would have MPs in Scotland. We have PR in the Scottish elections so if they do the same their they will have many MSPs

[Stairway 2 7]

Glasgow north east snp to Labour

[marinello59]

Flynn spoke confidently and concisely.
Swinney is all over the place.

[Stairway 2 7]

Labour gain Stirling

[Andy Bee]

Captain Penny goes down with her ship.

[marinello59]

We haven't returned a Reform MP have we?

Edit

So far in Scotland reform have a 7 percent share

In England they have a 16 percent share



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Only 7% ? Thankfully it’s not a Scottish election. They would be winning seats.

[jamie_1875]

Alyn Smith loses. Good, smarmy arrogant man.

[marinello59]

Captain Penny goes down with her ship.

Good riddance.

[Stairway 2 7]

Therese Coffey loses her seat to the greens

[grunt]

Alyn Smith loses. Good, smarmy arrogant man.

I liked him. Oh well. Strong supporter of EU membership.

[Stairway 2 7]

Well done Wales

PaulBrandITV
·
Former Welsh Secretary Alun Cairns just lost his seat to Labour in the Vale of Glamorgan. Conservatives on course for total wipeout in Wales - zero seats

[bringbackbenny]

Mordaunt out

[Stairway 2 7]

Mordaunt about greeting, Johnny Mercer out too

[Moulin Yarns]

Tory holding Berwickshire

[grunt]

Andrea Jenkyns gets the middle finger from electorate.

[Andy Bee]

Flynn spoke confidently and concisely.
Swinney is all over the place.

It'll be interesting to see if Swinney continues, they better think long and hard about that.

[Stairway 2 7]

Andrea Jenkyns gets the middle finger from electorate.

7 cabinet ministers gone a joint record with 97, half of seats declared

[Paul1642]

It'll be interesting to see if Swinney continues, they better think long and hard about that.

I don’t think tonight’s results can be blamed on Swinney. Sturgeon and Yousaf to blame for that.

[Stairway 2 7]

Lib Dems win Dunbartonshire from the SNP

[Stairway 2 7]

Brian Leishman wins Alloa & Grangemouth from SNP 7k majority

[Stairway 2 7]

Jambo Murray wins

[MartinfaePorty]

Brutal night for SNP, but Alba have gained so few votes as to be completely inconsequential. Where do they go from here?

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[Andy Bee]

I don’t think tonight’s results can be blamed on Swinney. Sturgeon and Yousaf to blame for that.

I dunno Paul, correct me if I'm wrong but Farage took over Reform after Swinney took control of the SNP, Farage looks like dominating the election and Swinney not so much.

[Andy Bee]

Jambo Murray wins

****

[grunt]

Are the SNP the political equivalent of Hibs? Losing when they should be winning?

[Andy Bee]

Brian Leishman wins Alloa & Grangemouth from SNP 7k majority

As expected, own goal there

[Callum_62]

Are the SNP the political equivalent of Hibs? Losing when they should be winning?Can we have some of the losing they've had for the last 2 decades?

[emoji38][emoji38]

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[Stairway 2 7]

Labour GAIN Bathgate & Linlithgow and Glasgow south from SNP

SNP have lost 16% of their last election voters, probably mostly to Labour

[marinello59]

I don’t think tonight’s results can be blamed on Swinney. Sturgeon and Yousaf to blame for that.

Probably unfair to blame him but going with another continuity candidate and a former leader when we knew an election where change would be the buzzword was possibly a mistake.

[Stairway 2 7]

As expected, own goal there

MacAskill only got 1k. The reason for the loss is the same as the other seats

[Callum_62]

Probably unfair to blame him but going with another continuity candidate and a former leader when we knew an election where change would be the buzzword was possibly a mistake.Wasn't this election so soon a big surprise though?

Swiney was literally just in the door when rishi stood in the rain

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[Andy Bee]

Are the SNP the political equivalent of Hibs? Losing when they should be winning?

I was thinking something similar earlier on tonight, I compare it to Mcleish sticking Sauzee, Latapy, Luna, Zittelle and Mixu on the bench and sticking John Swinney on. :greengrin