Youan

[AugustaHibs]

His latest instagram story sounds very ‘toys out the pram’

[FastEddieFelson]

His latest instagram story sounds very ‘toys out the pram’

Can you share for those not on Instagram?

[Lendo]

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This Story? Don’t see anything wrong with it personally.

[SlickShoes]

A photo of him an Myziane, with a caption that says “they won’t see a duo like this again (fire emoji), all the best bro you deserve it”

Which seems like he’s just saying goodbye to Myziane who won’t be coming back.

[USA_Hibee]

Seems like it's just saying bye to him. Like an I loved working with you, good luck on the next move!

[04Sauzee]

More bizarre that's he's removed all his Hibs pictures from Instagram

[MWHIBBIES]

Hibs have had some incredible duos in our time. Ellie Youan is totally away with it if he thinks he's above Hibs. Decent player, but nothing special.

[JohnM1875]

Hibs have had some incredible duos in our time. Ellie Youan is totally away with it if he thinks he's above Hibs. Decent player, but nothing special.

The guys contributed to 20 goals this season. We've nowhere near the squad depth to be nonchalant about letting that go.

Add that to Myziane and you're talking 30+ goals taken out the team. Who's going to step in and get those numbers?

Never understand the dislike Youan gets. Not saying you dislike him by the way, just in general.

[MWHIBBIES]

The guys contributed to 20 goals this season. We've nowhere near the squad depth to be nonchalant about letting that go.

Add that to Myziane and you're talking 30+ goals taken out the team. Who's going to step in and get those numbers?

Never understand the dislike Youan gets.

I don't dislike him. Someone will step up, or we'll get someone new, we always do. We've lost much better than him.

[JohnM1875]

I don't dislike him. Someone will step up, or we'll get someone new, we always do. We've lost much better than him.

We don't always though, do we? Before Youan we had Jasper and Chris Mueller

[Heisenberg]

We don't always though, do we? Before Youan we had Jasper and Chris Mueller

That was at the height of the “let Ian Gordon sign who he wants” phase though. Looks like we’ve learned our lesson now. Theo Bair and Simon Murray have rattled in goals and provided some assists this season, it’s not difficult to be half decent at this level if you recruit the right type of player.

I’d be punting Vente before Youan right enough.

[MWHIBBIES]

We don't always though, do we? Before Youan we had Jasper and Chris Mueller

Did we? Thought we had Boyle, Doidge and Nisbet who helped us to 3rd.

Then before them, we had Kamberi, Allan and Maclaren who got us 4th.

Then previous to them, Stokes and Cummings who won a cup.

Youan is fine. A decent player. Fine if he stays, fine if he goes. Id trade him for 2 decent centre backs right now.

[SHODAN]

Would be a great player in a better team. As it stands he does nothing most of the time or carries the entire team on his own.

[JohnM1875]

Did we? Thought we had Boyle, Doidge and Nisbet who helped us to 3rd.

Then before them, we had Kamberi, Allan and Maclaren who got us 4th.

Then previous to them, Stokes and Cummings who won a cup.

Youan is fine. A decent player. Fine if he stays, fine if he goes. Id trade him for 2 decent centre backs right now.

Youan plays wide in a three for us majority of the time. Doidge, Nisbet and Maclaren are strikers. Even then I bet Youans goal involvement will stack up favourably against those players.

[B.H.F.C]

Would be a great player in a better team. As it stands he does nothing most of the time or carries the entire team on his own.

How many of our players have that said about them. The real good ones are just good and that’s that.

FWIW I would rather keep hold of Youan. On the flip side, he’s probably the one player we’ve got who we could get decent money for to help build a better team rather than a team of apparently good individuals.

[badabing67]

Wonder how much we will get for him

[JohnM1875]

Wonder how much we will get for him

£2m seems to be that chat, which is a good profit I'll admit.

[Joe6-2]

£2m seems to be that chat, which is a good profit I'll admit.

Who’s paying that for him?

[JammyDoidger]

Would be a great player in a better team. As it stands he does nothing most of the time or carries the entire team on his own.

I think it's the other way about. He's a passenger, stats are pretty decent but so they should be when he's zero interest in helping the team defensively. Youan is all about himself, has been since he arrived and started posting clips of flicks and tricks when we were getting skudded.

[BILLYHIBS]

£2m seems to be that chat, which is a good profit I'll admit.

Bite their hand oaf !

[Pretty Boy]

I think there is a bit more nuance than simply 'good player - keep, bad player - let go'.

There is rumour that both Youan and Boyle could go. Both have contributed this season but as a team we have underperformed massively. If a 7 figure fee for Youan was forthcoming and we shed the wages of a 31 year old with several serious injuries on his record and that allowed us to bring in two top targets and a squad player that suited the plans of a new manager who's to say we would be worse off? I get the argument about goal contributions but we don't have to play with ten men if we sell Youan, we are allowed to replace him.

Purely as an example if Youan and Boyle left tomorrow and we used the money generated and saved to finance a permanent deal for Maolida, brought in Jason Kerr and brought in Simon Murray as a back up striker is that a terrible bit of business? We'd probably be about 10 goals better off defensively right away and we'd have two proven goalscorers at this level.

It's one of those arguments that happens a lot. There is near universal agreement that the squad isn't good enough, is bloated and needs a huge overhaul but then people go mental every time it is rumoured someone will leave. It's not always the same people of course but so far almost every time a first team player has been confirmed as leaving or is rumoured to be leaving there is at least a handful vocally wanting them to stay.

I'm not suggesting the two players aren't good players but this squad has consistently proven to be incapable of getting the job done. Maybe a focus on building an entity that is greater than the sum of it's parts means a few favourites have to go to make a squad that is more coherent and functional.

[Is It On....]

The guys contributed to 20 goals this season. We've nowhere near the squad depth to be nonchalant about letting that go.

Add that to Myziane and you're talking 30+ goals taken out the team. Who's going to step in and get those numbers?

Never understand the dislike Youan gets. Not saying you dislike him by the way, just in general.

Stats don't tell you everything..👀

*I happen to agree with you

[eastmainsmsh]

Shame they never played upfront together

[MWHIBBIES]

Youan plays wide in a three for us majority of the time. Doidge, Nisbet and Maclaren are strikers. Even then I bet Youans goal involvement will stack up favourably against those players.

Yeah, absolutely. Decent players, like him. We managed after them.

[Iain G]

I think there is a bit more nuance than simply 'good player - keep, bad player - let go'.

There is rumour that both Youan and Boyle could go. Both have contributed this season but as a team we have underperformed massively. If a 7 figure fee for Youan was forthcoming and we shed the wages of a 31 year old with several serious injuries on his record and that allowed us to bring in two top targets and a squad player that suited the plans of a new manager who's to say we would be worse off? I get the argument about goal contributions but we don't have to play with ten men if we sell Youan, we are allowed to replace him.

Purely as an example if Youan and Boyle left tomorrow and we used the money generated and saved to finance a permanent deal for Maolida, brought in Jason Kerr and brought in Simon Murray as a back up striker is that a terrible bit of business? We'd probably be about 10 goals better off defensively right away and we'd have two proven goalscorers at this level.

It's one of those arguments that happens a lot. There is near universal agreement that the squad isn't good enough, is bloated and needs a huge overhaul but then people go mental every time it is rumoured someone will leave. It's not always the same people of course but so far almost every time a first team player has been confirmed as leaving or is rumoured to be leaving there is at least a handful vocally wanting them to stay.

I'm not suggesting the two players aren't good players but this squad has consistently proven to be incapable of getting the job done. Maybe a focus on building an entity that is greater than the sum of it's parts means a few favourites have to go to make a squad that is more coherent and functional.

If we allow Boyle and Youan to leave that's a big hole to fill and a lot more change to a squad that's always going to have a major overhaul. I could see is selling one if the right offer came in, and the player wanted to leave, but would rather we keep both if we can't entice Maolida back 😊

[B.H.F.C]

I think there is a bit more nuance than simply 'good player - keep, bad player - let go'.

There is rumour that both Youan and Boyle could go. Both have contributed this season but as a team we have underperformed massively. If a 7 figure fee for Youan was forthcoming and we shed the wages of a 31 year old with several serious injuries on his record and that allowed us to bring in two top targets and a squad player that suited the plans of a new manager who's to say we would be worse off? I get the argument about goal contributions but we don't have to play with ten men if we sell Youan, we are allowed to replace him.

Purely as an example if Youan and Boyle left tomorrow and we used the money generated and saved to finance a permanent deal for Maolida, brought in Jason Kerr and brought in Simon Murray as a back up striker is that a terrible bit of business? We'd probably be about 10 goals better off defensively right away and we'd have two proven goalscorers at this level.

It's one of those arguments that happens a lot. There is near universal agreement that the squad isn't good enough, is bloated and needs a huge overhaul but then people go mental every time it is rumoured someone will leave. It's not always the same people of course but so far almost every time a first team player has been confirmed as leaving or is rumoured to be leaving there is at least a handful vocally wanting them to stay.

I'm not suggesting the two players aren't good players but this squad has consistently proven to be incapable of getting the job done. Maybe a focus on building an entity that is greater than the sum of it's parts means a few favourites have to go to make a squad that is more coherent and functional.

I reckon for us to improve this summer there’ll need to be some unpopular decisions made. Post I responded to above about players being better in a better team, we have too many of them IMO.

We need to free space up in the squad to get the players in that are needed to make us a better team and that might mean getting rid of some players who, at times, prevent us from functioning as a team, even if they are seen as being good individually.

[Smartie]

Would be a great player in a better team. As it stands he does nothing most of the time or carries the entire team on his own.

He’ll be an inconsistent player with an interesting social media presence wherever he goes and the amount he will be appreciated will vary from place to place.

[Smartie]

Re the social media post - the way you interpret it can boil down to what can be read into the word “they”.

If it’s a generic they, ie a pairing like this will never be seen again then it’s quite a nice tribute to pay to a team mate and friend.

If it’s directed as a dig at Hibs fans, who I needn’t need to point out have seen many superior pairings in the past and will so in future over a duo who were never even a recognisable duo - then he can gtf.

He deserves the benefit of the doubt.

[He's here!]

I think there is a bit more nuance than simply 'good player - keep, bad player - let go'.

There is rumour that both Youan and Boyle could go. Both have contributed this season but as a team we have underperformed massively. If a 7 figure fee for Youan was forthcoming and we shed the wages of a 31 year old with several serious injuries on his record and that allowed us to bring in two top targets and a squad player that suited the plans of a new manager who's to say we would be worse off? I get the argument about goal contributions but we don't have to play with ten men if we sell Youan, we are allowed to replace him.

Purely as an example if Youan and Boyle left tomorrow and we used the money generated and saved to finance a permanent deal for Maolida, brought in Jason Kerr and brought in Simon Murray as a back up striker is that a terrible bit of business? We'd probably be about 10 goals better off defensively right away and we'd have two proven goalscorers at this level.

It's one of those arguments that happens a lot. There is near universal agreement that the squad isn't good enough, is bloated and needs a huge overhaul but then people go mental every time it is rumoured someone will leave. It's not always the same people of course but so far almost every time a first team player has been confirmed as leaving or is rumoured to be leaving there is at least a handful vocally wanting them to stay.

I'm not suggesting the two players aren't good players but this squad has consistently proven to be incapable of getting the job done. Maybe a focus on building an entity that is greater than the sum of it's parts means a few favourites have to go to make a squad that is more coherent and functional.

Do we think Boyle is finished at this level? Overall he's been a terrific player for us. On paper his signing wasn't one to get the pulses racing and it wasn't unreasonable to think Dundee were getting the better player with Alex Harris, but he put in a power of work and became arguably the most improved player in Scottish football over the years, while Harris drifted down the leagues. While injury sadly denied him a playing role, you'd never have imagined he'd have ended up in a World Cup squad. I was thrilled when we re-signed him.

At 31 he should have a few years left in him, but is the consensus that the injuries are now starting to impact on his prowess? Or has he just been stifled by the general malaise that has engulfed Hibs?

[Smartie]

Do we think Boyle is finished at this level? Overall he's been a terrific player for us. On paper his signing wasn't one to get the pulses racing and it wasn't unreasonable to think Dundee were getting the better player with Alex Harris, but he put in a power of work and became arguably the most improved player in Scottish football over the years, while Harris drifted down the leagues. While injury sadly denied him a playing role, you'd never have imagined he'd have ended up in a World Cup squad. I was thrilled when we re-signed him.

At 31 he should have a few years left in him, but is the consensus that the injuries are now starting to impact on his prowess? Or has he just been stifled by the general malaise that has engulfed Hibs?

He’s not had a great season but mitigating factors +++.

Against Motherwell I thought we managed to get him more involved. Day 1 of the league season Robinson said after the game they’d had a plan to choke off the supply to Youan and Boyle and it worked a treat. All season long tbh we’ve struggled to get him adequately involved. Against Motherwell he looked more involved again and his use of the ball was good when he got it.

He’s maybe not good enough to drag us single handed through our hardest games but he’s definitely still good enough to positively impact games for us - as long as we do a better job of getting the ball to him than we have this season.

[Not In The Know]

Do we think Boyle is finished at this level? Overall he's been a terrific player for us. On paper his signing wasn't one to get the pulses racing and it wasn't unreasonable to think Dundee were getting the better player with Alex Harris, but he put in a power of work and became arguably the most improved player in Scottish football over the years, while Harris drifted down the leagues. While injury sadly denied him a playing role, you'd never have imagined he'd have ended up in a World Cup squad. I was thrilled when we re-signed him.

At 31 he should have a few years left in him, but is the consensus that the injuries are now starting to impact on his prowess? Or has he just been stifled by the general malaise that has engulfed Hibs?


Defffo not finished at this level. 100% not worth his wages at this level tho.

[eastmainsmsh]

Not been same unfortunately maybe get back to his best next season if he is still here

[AugustaHibs]

Looks to be arguing with fans on instagram again, all over twitter.

[04Sauzee]

Looks to be arguing with fans on instagram again, all over twitter.

Imagine being the one who messages him and then posting it all over Twitter

[GreenCastle]

Looks to be arguing with fans on instagram again, all over twitter.

We have some total clowns in our support.

Youan is a good player - who has scored goals for us and helped win games.

Yes he’s had his moments and still has lots to work on but give me him over some of the dross we have seen over the years.

[EGL2000]

Not been same unfortunately maybe get back to his best next season if he is still here

He actually had a better season this season that last 10 goals 10 assists this season. Compared with 9 goals and 7 assists the season before.

[EGL2000]

We have some total clowns in our support.

Youan is a good player - who has scored goals for us and helped win games.

Yes he’s had his moments and still has lots to work on but give me him over some of the dross we have seen over the years.

I feel sorry for him. For the amount he's contributed he gets some level of stick off some of the fans. He's up there with one of my favourite players to watch in recent years.

[marinello59]

Looks to be arguing with fans on instagram again, all over twitter.

Good on him, some of our fans deserve to get it back.

[AugustaHibs]

Imagine being the one who messages him and then posting it all over Twitter

Agree. Pathetic.

[Trinity Hibee]

Imagine being the one who messages him and then posting it all over Twitter

Social media is a cesspit

[GreenCastle]

I feel sorry for him. For the amount he's contributed he gets some level of stick off some of the fans. He's up there with one of my favourite players to watch in recent years.

Exactly - far worse performers this season and said it severeal times..

Without the goals of Ellie and Myziane we would be relegated.

Be careful what we wish for as few years back we got rid of strikers and couldn’t score.

[Brightside]

Good on him, some of our fans deserve to get it back.

Its always daft wee boys. Honestly no idea why footballers interact with them.

[DaveF]

Its always daft wee boys. Honestly no idea why footballers interact with them.

Agree, it's a bit brainless of Youan to be bickering with idiots on social media.

[Smartie]

Social media is a cesspit

It is.

Which is why footballers who choose to engage incessantly with it need their heads examined, including (especially?) Youan.

I can’t really be doing with him. Hot and cold and unreliable on the pitch, drama Queen off it.

Why always him? Pretty obvious to me.

He’ll be replaced, we’ll be better off, and the imbeciles on social media will move on to a new target who won’t react, then they’ll move on to someone else.

[Smartie]

Exactly - far worse performers this season and said it severeal times..

Without the goals of Ellie and Myziane we would be relegated.

Be careful what we wish for as few years back we got rid of strikers and couldn’t score.

As was pointed out on another thread, we’ve also had forward lines who have shot us to 3rd and 4th.

Both excellent players on their day, Myziane much closer to being irreplaceable than Youan but both can and will be replaced and the Sun will continue to rise in the East and set in the West.

A couple of decent centre halves and a good gk and the pressure for the forwards to be so good will be reduced.

[marinello59]

Agree, it's a bit brainless of Youan to be bickering with idiots on social media.

I’d agree that footballers would be better avoiding twitter etc but I’ll not grudge Youan giving a bit back given the amount of mindless abuse he has taken over the course of the season.

[Smartie]

I’d agree that footballers would be better avoiding twitter etc but I’ll not grudge Youan giving a bit back given the amount of mindless abuse he has taken over the course of the season.

Every time he bites back, he’ll multiply the crap he receives though. Not saying it’s right (it really isn’t) but that’s the way it is.

Is he more deserving of grief online for his footballing efforts than Dylan Levitt, Dylan Vente or Will Fish, going on this season? Why is it him and pretty much nobody else who ends up in this position?

Because their egos allow them to walk away, that’s why, and his doesn’t.

[jacomo]

We have some total clowns in our support.

Youan is a good player - who has scored goals for us and helped win games.

Yes he’s had his moments and still has lots to work on but give me him over some of the dross we have seen over the years.


:agree:

[CapitalGreen]

Every time he bites back, he’ll multiply the crap he receives though. Not saying it’s right (it really isn’t) but that’s the way it is.

Is he more deserving of grief online for his footballing efforts than Dylan Levitt, Dylan Vente or Will Fish, going on this season? Why is it him and pretty much nobody else who ends up in this position?

Because their egos allow them to walk away, that’s why, and his doesn’t.

Can’t beat a bit of victim blaming.

[jacomo]

Every time he bites back, he’ll multiply the crap he receives though. Not saying it’s right (it really isn’t) but that’s the way it is.

Is he more deserving of grief online for his footballing efforts than Dylan Levitt, Dylan Vente or Will Fish, going on this season? Why is it him and pretty much nobody else who ends up in this position?

Because their egos allow them to walk away, that’s why, and his doesn’t.


Sure, but how old is he? 23? 24?

Young men are prone to making bad decisions - I know because I used to be one! :wink:

Someone within the club should be supporting Youan with this, and I hope this is the case.

[Tyler Durden]

Exactly - far worse performers this season and said it severeal times..

Without the goals of Ellie and Myziane we would be relegated.

Be careful what we wish for as few years back we got rid of strikers and couldn’t score.

Would we have played with 9 men instead?

I'm not going to lose any sleep about losing Youan, thanks very much.

[eastmainsmsh]

He actually had a better season this season that last 10 goals 10 assists this season. Compared with 9 goals and 7 assists the season before.

Sorry I meant Boyle meant to reply to another post

[Carheenlea]

The hounding and desperation to be shot of a player like Elie Youan and his contribution to the team over the season by sections and our support is greatly one that baffles me. Throw Martin Boyle into that pot as well.
We need more of that quality and pedigree, not less of it.

[The Modfather]

The hounding and desperation to be shot of a player like Elie Youan and his contribution to the team over the season by sections and our support is greatly one that baffles me. Throw Martin Boyle into that pot as well.
We need more of that quality and pedigree, not less of it.

We need less players that are described as “on their day”. How much did we spend on fees for Youan, Vente & Boyle (wrote of a fee due), never mind wages to go with those fees? For 15 league goals between them (5 each I believe) and 13 assists (7 for Youan and 3 each for Boyle & Vente). That’s 1 more goal and only 9 more assists than Simon Murray got for 11th placed Ross County.

I don’t buy it’s all down to big bad Montgomery. For the money they cost is it not more baffling to not entertain cashing in on them as part of the rebuild. Based on this season none of the 3 would be particularly difficult to replace IMO.

[Lago]

We need less players that are described as “on their day”. How much did we spend on fees for Youan, Vente & Boyle (wrote of a fee due), never mind wages to go with those fees? For 15 league goals between them (5 each I believe) and 13 assists (7 for Youan and 3 each for Boyle & Vente). That’s 1 more goal and only 9 more assists than Simon Murray got for 11th placed Ross County.

I don’t buy it’s all down to big bad Montgomery. For the money they cost is it not more baffling to not entertain cashing in on them as part of the rebuild. Based on this season none of the 3 would be particularly difficult to replace IMO.
Much to sensible a post 👌

[blackpoolhibs]

Forwars like Boyle and Youan are players we describe as on their day players, they can produce wonderful bits of play and score goals.

I think if we had a solid back 4 with a decent keeper, and a midfield that was a lot better than we currently have, Boyle and Youan would score more goals and create more chances for others.

They are both fine players, but we are pish at defending, and our non existant midfield dont help the defenders or the attackers much either.

Keep the ball out of our net more, and they would score as many, probably more than most in our league.

[davhibby]

Every time he bites back, he’ll multiply the crap he receives though. Not saying it’s right (it really isn’t) but that’s the way it is.

Is he more deserving of grief online for his footballing efforts than Dylan Levitt, Dylan Vente or Will Fish, going on this season? Why is it him and pretty much nobody else who ends up in this position?

Because their egos allow them to walk away, that’s why, and his doesn’t.

Probably because he’s performed well and gets a lot more direct abuse than pretty much any other of our players (maybe bar Rocky). It’s always the same lazy tropes that people fire out and if as the rumours suggest he’s away now anyway then fair play to him for giving a bit back.

Losing him and Maolida leaves us needing two real top quality replacements on the wings which will be very difficult to get right and it wouldn’t surprise me if the same people are crying out for someone of Youan’s ability next season.

[GreenCastle]

We need less players that are described as “on their day”. How much did we spend on fees for Youan, Vente & Boyle (wrote of a fee due), never mind wages to go with those fees? For 15 league goals between them (5 each I believe) and 13 assists (7 for Youan and 3 each for Boyle & Vente). That’s 1 more goal and only 9 more assists than Simon Murray got for 11th placed Ross County.

I don’t buy it’s all down to big bad Montgomery. For the money they cost is it not more baffling to not entertain cashing in on them as part of the rebuild. Based on this season none of the 3 would be particularly difficult to replace IMO.

There is a reason some of these players end up at Hibs.

Consistency!!

Hibs have a certain level of player that can be unplayable or hardly involved.

That’s the frustrating part - we need to have more consistent performers and ones that are steady over a season.

We do need the X factor type players though as we have had plenty awful forwards over the years.

We need new players at the back but we can’t suddenly forgot goals win games and unless the midfield start scoring more we need a Nisbet / Shankland / Myziane level player to regularly score for us. Right now Vente isn’t doing that.

Would rather have a Youan compared to Drey Wright or Jamie Murphy.

[cameronw-hfc]

Back to back seasons we have had players saying we 'hate' them. Rocky last year, Youan this year.

Some fans need to take a long hard look at themselves.

[EGL2000]

There is a reason some of these players end up at Hibs.

Consistency!!

Hibs have a certain level of player that can be unplayable or hardly involved.

That’s the frustrating part - we need to have more consistent performers and ones that are steady over a season.

We do need the X factor type players though as we have had plenty awful forwards over the years.

We need new players at the back but we can’t suddenly forgot goals win games and unless the midfield start scoring more we need a Nisbet / Shankland / Myziane level player to regularly score for us. Right now Vente isn’t doing that.

Would rather have a Youan compared to Drey Wright or Jamie Murphy.

The thing is the only real way you are going to get that level of quality "when he's on it" coming to Hibs is because he's inconsistent. A player with that ability who produced week in week out would be well out of our reach. Or you develop them yourselves a lot harder and likely to be way more failures than successes.

[Unseen work]

Gutted when he leaves.

Top player at this level.

All the best Elie

[easty]

Back to back seasons we have had players saying we 'hate' them. Rocky last year, Youan this year.

Some fans need to take a long hard look at themselves.

Has Youan said that?

[cameronw-hfc]

Has Youan said that?


https://twitter.com/Chrisfinn2703/status/1792871763434520679?t=f1P-bk9rQf7YK9jyIS_0Og&s=19

I don't know how to link on mobile

[Bishop Hibee]

We’ve got mugs like McKirdy, Vente and Jair yet folk want rid of Boyle and Youan. I despair.

[Green-Hibee-7]

You can debate the sensibility of whether or not a public figure should have social media. Not sure I would be thick skinned enough to be on it. Irrespective however, if a player chooses to do so, they should not have to endure constant abuse. I’d like to think the club invest in educating the players about social media and have some sort of support in place. I’d also like to think that players understand that trolls on social media generally do not speak for the wider support.

What has became apparent on social media (I use X), is we have a significant number of attention seeking supporters on that platform that would no sooner throw the club, players and fellow fans under the bus just to get a bit of engagement on their profile. There is also a certain element who post as if they speak for all fans and think their opinion is gospel.

Social media is a cesspit to be honest. It’s a society issue though. The need for attention and engagement and the lengths people will go to try and get it is pretty sad. (Both in and out of football).

On Youan, he is an exciting player, blows hot and cold. Can be a bit greedy and makes the wrong decisions quite often. But there is an element online and in the stands that have not taken to him. He does get pelters where I sit at ER. I prefer to take him as he is. Hot and cold , but at least entertaining. His goal contributions have been pivotal in making sure this year wasn’t a complete catastrophe. At this point, with the way he is clearly feeling, better to get the money and move on. I’m not confident we will replace his numbers.

[MrRobot]

We’ve got mugs like McKirdy, Vente and Jair yet folk want rid of Boyle and Youan. I despair.

In what way exactly are those players mugs? Because they haven’t performed as well as we had hoped? :confused:

[Mcbizz1998]

In what way exactly are those players mugs? Because they haven’t performed as well as we had hoped? :confused:

I presume he means in a footballing sense as opposed to personally.

He is correct though, they need to go loooooong before Boyle and Youan.

[Bishop Hibee]

In what way exactly are those players mugs? Because they haven’t performed as well as we had hoped? :confused:

Yes. Vente in particular has performed well below expectations.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Social media is a cesspit
Anti-social media

[Brightside]

https://twitter.com/Chrisfinn2703/status/1792871763434520679?t=f1P-bk9rQf7YK9jyIS_0Og&s=19

I don't know how to link on mobile

Im also not sure there is any benefit in Hibs fans stirring the pot either. Some daft wee boy makes a dick of himself why publicise it and try to make it look like HIBS have a problem with racism.

[TheHibernator]

Very capable when he's in the mood, unfortunately has had a good number of detractors, most of the criticism I've seen didn't seem over the top however I have no idea about what he could have received in his direct messages. But when he's responding to fans publicly telling them to shut their mouths, it's probably the beginning of the end.

In an ideal world players would always perform at 100% and all fans would be supportive all the time, but the world doesn't work like that and you have to be able to deal with it.

Best for all parties if he goes I think, all the best Elie.

[Brightside]

We’ve got mugs like McKirdy, Vente and Jair yet folk want rid of Boyle and Youan. I despair.

Im not sure Vente should be put in with them tbh.

[shamo9]

I'll remember him fondly if he does leave. Inconsistent yes, but the type of player you pay money to see when they're in full flow. A level above all our remaining attacking players except for Boyle at his best.

It's gonna be difficult to rebuild the defence and attack in one transfer window. The new manager has their work cut out for them. :cb

[tamig]

£2m seems to be that chat, which is a good profit I'll admit.

Who says he’s going anywhere - other than folk on here?

[Smartie]

I'll remember him fondly if he does leave. Inconsistent yes, but the type of player you pay money to see when they're in full flow. A level above all our remaining attacking players except for Boyle at his best.

It's gonna be difficult to rebuild the defence and attack in one transfer window. The new manager has their work cut out for them. :cb

I'll definitely miss the "in full flow Youan" and there's something endearing about the bonkersness of him. He has a bit of character, which is often lacking in slightly dull modern footballers. And even when he's not playing well, you know he has the ability to spark into life at any moment, which is quite an attribute. How often have we looked at our bench, or looked at the players on the park and wondered - wtf is he going to do to get us a goal? Youan is a potential threat at all times, even if he's as likely to fall over his feet trying to beat people leading to a decent chance to counter on us than he is to actually produce something constructive.

Over sequences of a dozen games or over a season, I do think we'll probably be a better team without him though, by the time the rough and smooth have cancelled one another out.

He's not irreplaceable.

[random sub]

Would be sad to see him go, especially if he feels some elements of the fan base our chasing him out. It will need a decent fee for someone to get him I hope

[Donegal Hibby]

Who says he’s going anywhere - other than folk on here?

Hope he's not , his goals and assists will be hard to replace plus he's one of the few players we have that gets you out of your seat .

[GreenCastle]

The thing is the only real way you are going to get that level of quality "when he's on it" coming to Hibs is because he's inconsistent. A player with that ability who produced week in week out would be well out of our reach. Or you develop them yourselves a lot harder and likely to be way more failures than successes.

Think we are saying same thing…consistency / inconsistency.

Add in wingers / wide players can be very hot and cold. Even at the top level with Man City etc they can be very effective or like playing with a player down.

Still would keep Ellie unless we have replacements who will improve us.

[cameronw-hfc]

Im also not sure there is any benefit in Hibs fans stirring the pot either. Some daft wee boy makes a dick of himself why publicise it and try to make it look like HIBS have a problem with racism.


i agree, my point was more the general abuse on social media in particular has been a lot worse over the last few seasons rather than a racism issue.