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GloryGlory
14-05-2024, 12:11 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nick-montgomery-warned-hibs-mess-32805560

Seems we've still got cliques in the dressing room that undermine the manager by running to the hierarchy behind his back! If you believe this.

Also Myziane and Marcondes were Monty acquisitions, as the targets suggested by the "recruitment" department were a joke.

Tyler Durden
14-05-2024, 12:18 PM
It's a pretty terrible piece this, errors all over the place and opinion treated as fact.

Paulie Walnuts
14-05-2024, 12:19 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nick-montgomery-warned-hibs-mess-32805560

Seems we've still got cliques in the dressing room that undermine the manager by running to the hierarchy behind his back! If you believe this.

Also Myziane and Marcondes were Monty acquisitions, as the targets suggested by the "recruitment" department were a joke.

Absolute pile of *****.

Lee Johnson blew the budget on development players? No, he didn’t. That was done under Maloney, and it wasn’t Maloney that blew it.

Montgomery came in and quickly identified that the majority of the squad was nowhere near first team ready for Hibs. Yet they finished 5th just a couple months previous, qualified for Europe and defeated a very decent Luzern side.

There was no budget for him in January, yet we signed two guys who we’ll be paying an absolute fortune by our standards. He credits Montgomery with identifying Marcondes despite the fact Marcondes has said we were after him before Montgomery.

References to ‘the same players who continuously under achieve’ despite the fact there’s only 7 players who have been here since before LJ. Two of them are about to leave the club as absolute legends.

The Tubs
14-05-2024, 12:19 PM
Did Marcondes not say he was possibly going to join in August last year?

jeffers
14-05-2024, 12:20 PM
It's a pretty terrible piece this, errors all over the place and opinion treated as fact.

I thought the exact same. It read as if it had been written by one of the posters who had been defending him on here, all that was missing was reference to VAR decisions.

One Day Soon
14-05-2024, 12:21 PM
For all sorts of reasons this is more Montgomery Burns than it is Scott Burns.

Smartie
14-05-2024, 12:24 PM
The delivery of this piece is shambolic... but if he'd taken a bit longer to tidy up a few salient facts and polish the delivery, there are a few fair points in there.

Northernhibee
14-05-2024, 12:25 PM
The delivery of this piece is shambolic... but if he'd taken a bit longer to tidy up a few salient facts and polish the delivery, there are a few fair points in there.

Needed fact checking, but there’s enough of it that passes the sniff test.

Craigmount Hibs
14-05-2024, 12:25 PM
Did Marcondes not say he was possibly going to join in August last year?
Yes, he did.

Slim Shady
14-05-2024, 12:25 PM
Hopefully Scott can look into the transfer goings on with Lee Johnson - his dad Gary Johnson and the involvment of their best mate Brian McDermott.

Unseen work
14-05-2024, 12:25 PM
Awful article.

Accusations, guesswork and just overall really bitter.

Marcondes a Montgomery target and had nothing to do with Bournemouth? Doubt it

Who are the dressing room cliques that get rid of managers when we have that many new players coming in all the time

He misses a huge point - Montgomery didn’t win games, didn’t show any signs of improving us or any positivity.

The players would be right if they thought the past 3 managers aren’t good enough,

I imagine Cudjoe was the championship player. But he was a promising young player that you would imagine fit the criteria he detailed? They put him forward and he said no. That will happen at every club all over the world.

The fact it’s Scott burns, who gets 99% wrong in respect of Hibs, makes me take this article with a pinch of salt

Baader
14-05-2024, 12:26 PM
Is he Montgomery's agent?

CapitalGreen
14-05-2024, 12:30 PM
Hopefully Scott can look into the transfer goings on with Lee Johnson - his dad Gary Johnson and the involvment of their best mate Brian McDermott.

Not this absolute nonsense again 😂😂

SaulGoodman
14-05-2024, 12:30 PM
This nonsense about him needing his own players in needs put to bed as well.

He took a team that finished 5th under another hopeless manager and somehow conspired to make them worse.

Those players should not be finishing 9th. That is a complete failure.

He’s got no one to blame but himself.

Pedantic_Hibee
14-05-2024, 12:31 PM
If Scott Burns was on fire I would try and find some marshmallows. An absolute twatbasket of a man who is to journalism what I am to quantum physics…****ing pointless.

overdrive
14-05-2024, 12:34 PM
Well we know who Montgomery phoned immediately after being told he was sacked

ChuckNor
14-05-2024, 12:43 PM
Well we know who Montgomery phoned immediately after being told he was sacked

That’s exactly what happened. Either that or one of the assistants. As someone involved in media I am 99pc certain that’s what happened here.

As an aside, the piece is riddled with an incredible number of inaccuracies. The one thing I have on very good authority is the part about Ian Gordon still throwing his weight around about recruitment.

Aldo
14-05-2024, 12:47 PM
If Scott Burns reported that the grass was green and the sky was blue I’d still look to check to see if this was correct.

JimBHibees
14-05-2024, 12:47 PM
Given the performance on Sunday undoubtedly players packing it in to get him out the door. Shameful really. Time for a complete clear out. His line about Hibs supporters not wanting a west of Scotland manager what is that based on? 😄

Centre Hawf
14-05-2024, 12:48 PM
Article talks a lot of ***** using a lot of information that's already out there (inaccurately as well)

The only part that rings somewhat true is the Scottish Championship player judging by the fact they were at a Dundee United game recently.

LaMotta
14-05-2024, 12:48 PM
One of his journalist pals claiming its an excellent piece:hilarious

https://twitter.com/garykeown/status/1790349765336514633?t=h3N1w1M7MCMq2tBA7ViwzQ&s=19

That needs called out.

JimBHibees
14-05-2024, 12:50 PM
One of his journalist pals claiming its an excellent piece:hilarious

https://twitter.com/garykeown/status/1790349765336514633?t=h3N1w1M7MCMq2tBA7ViwzQ&s=19

That needs called out.

Especially using the word cocker 😳

B.H.F.C
14-05-2024, 12:50 PM
Awful article.

Accusations, guesswork and just overall really bitter.

Marcondes a Montgomery target and had nothing to do with Bournemouth? Doubt it

Who are the dressing room cliques that get rid of managers when we have that many new players coming in all the time

He misses a huge point - Montgomery didn’t win games, didn’t show any signs of improving us or any positivity.

The players would be right if they thought the past 3 managers aren’t good enough,

I imagine Cudjoe was the championship player. But he was a promising young player that you would imagine fit the criteria he detailed? They put him forward and he said no. That will happen at every club all over the world.

The fact it’s Scott burns, who gets 99% wrong in respect of Hibs, makes me take this article with a pinch of salt

We tried to sign Marcondes last summer, before Montgomery, so it’s no as if he’s just come along and decided he wanted him.

There are multiple mistakes in the article. If written properly, there are also some points that are pretty likely/valid.

LaMotta
14-05-2024, 12:52 PM
Especially using the word cocker 😳

:greengrin

SHODAN
14-05-2024, 12:54 PM
Love how the fans are somehow blamed for the appointment again.

We must have the most powerful fans in Scottish football going by the stuff these jokers write.

GordonHFC
14-05-2024, 12:55 PM
So what happened to being on the correct trajectory just last week. Smells of a man trying to save his own reputation and failing badly.

The Modfather
14-05-2024, 01:00 PM
This nonsense about him needing his own players in needs put to bed as well.

He took a team that finished 5th under another hopeless manager and somehow conspired to make them worse.

Those players should not be finishing 9th. That is a complete failure.

He’s got no one to blame but himself.

The team that finished 5th had, for half a season anyway, Porteous & Nisbet. The team he inherited replaced them with Harbottle & Vente.

Winston Ingram
14-05-2024, 01:01 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nick-montgomery-warned-hibs-mess-32805560

Seems we've still got cliques in the dressing room that undermine the manager by running to the hierarchy behind his back! If you believe this.

Also Myziane and Marcondes were Monty acquisitions, as the targets suggested by the "recruitment" department were a joke.

Sounds like a load of filet-o-fish that article

leith lynx
14-05-2024, 01:05 PM
Most of that Scott Burns article is complete balderdash!

jeffers
14-05-2024, 01:07 PM
Is Scott Burns the “journalist” who was always claiming we were missing out on players to Aberdeen ?

Joe6-2
14-05-2024, 01:08 PM
Let’s not waste any more time discussing this idiot, and his bloody rag of a paper

stuarty84
14-05-2024, 02:04 PM
Terrible article. I’ll hold off for the Lewis Stevenson reveal all autobiography 👍

Carheenlea
14-05-2024, 02:15 PM
Let’s not waste any more time discussing this idiot, and his bloody rag of a paper

Agree.

As soon as you see “Daily Record” in the link address you know it isn’t one worth clicking on.

:lolrangers:

SON OF PADDY
14-05-2024, 02:21 PM
It's time Hibs,banned these so called journalists from ER and HTC.

Since452
14-05-2024, 02:39 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nick-montgomery-warned-hibs-mess-32805560

Seems we've still got cliques in the dressing room that undermine the manager by running to the hierarchy behind his back! If you believe this.

Also Myziane and Marcondes were Monty acquisitions, as the targets suggested by the "recruitment" department were a joke.

What a terrible article full of inaccuracies! We tried to sign Marcondes when LJ was here for a start.

hibeerealist
14-05-2024, 02:55 PM
An absolute welt and certainly no journalist putting out this pile o sh ite/nonsense

greenlex
14-05-2024, 06:32 PM
Media are loving this. Leagues done and nothing to write about till cup final day/week. It’ll help keep pages filled.

GreenCastle
14-05-2024, 06:38 PM
Media are loving this. Leagues done and nothing to write about till cup final day/week. It’ll help keep pages filled.

STV led with Rangers game tonight before Hibs news.

BBC Scotland led with Hibs then Rangers game.