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Glesgahibby
14-05-2024, 09:30 AM
Has to be number one target

Nicho87
14-05-2024, 09:32 AM
The only target

Blank cheque book

Onceinawhile
14-05-2024, 09:38 AM
Not sure if he'd take the job.

But certainly of the "knows Scottish football" candidates he is #1.

Crab apple
14-05-2024, 09:40 AM
He should be our number one target as he should have been last time too.

HendoDelivered
14-05-2024, 09:41 AM
Would tell us to bolt, we are a shambles 🤣

Kentao1985
14-05-2024, 09:42 AM
Pay Killie what they want for him and Armstrong. The difference in prize money from top 6 to 9th should make up a good chunk of his compensation package.

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HIBERNIAN-0762
14-05-2024, 09:42 AM
Forget it! FFS 😄

chrisski33
14-05-2024, 09:43 AM
Hes not coming, great season with Killie and in Europe. Aint coming to us.

B.H.F.C
14-05-2024, 09:44 AM
I really don’t see any point in us targeting him, or anyone else, until such time as we’ve sorted out things above the manager. I think all that will happen before a manager is appointed.

we are hibs
14-05-2024, 09:45 AM
No.

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superfurryhibby
14-05-2024, 09:48 AM
The wise choice.

|Those saying he wouldn't come etc, he took on a Killie side that were in the Championship. He's taken them as far as he probably can. Hibs would offer much more money (he doesn't need it, lol) and a bigger opportunity. Of course he would take the job.

Since452
14-05-2024, 09:50 AM
Throw the kitchen sink at getting him in. Failing that, Robinson.

lucky
14-05-2024, 09:56 AM
Macinnes has to be the number one choice, Robinson second and Lennin third.

SHODAN
14-05-2024, 09:56 AM
McInnes, what do you want? We'll give you anything. ANYTHING

Hermit Crab
14-05-2024, 09:57 AM
No


Liam Rosenior please.

JeMeSouviens
14-05-2024, 09:58 AM
Macinnes has to be the number one choice, Robinson second and Lennin third.

Stalin would get more steel up our spine, no? :greengrin

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 10:00 AM
Absolutely not. Plastic pitch has def skewed his results. Won something like 7 matches in 2 years on grass in the SPL. Also really dont want another manager who is used as an old firm commentator when we are not playing.

Vini1875
14-05-2024, 10:03 AM
No thanks.

Paul1642
14-05-2024, 10:06 AM
I don’t think McInnes is the best man for the job, but I do think he would be the safest option and I think that’s what we need right now.

Go for an exiting option that doesn’t work out and the club will be in turmoil. McInnes to steady the ship for a couple of years then the next appointment back to being younger and more exciting. This club isn’t in a good position for someone like that to take over right now.

Lots of people said this before we appointed Monty and I disagreed however it now feels necessary. None of this guarantees that he would want to come but a pay rise and a much larger transfer budget which he can use to build almost entirely his own team strikes me as more attractive than a couple of European games.

Pretty Boy
14-05-2024, 10:06 AM
He's the stand out candidate. He improves teams quickly and gets the job done.

He got St Johnstone promoted after 7 years out of the top flight. The only failure on his CV is Bristol City and even there he took a team who were rooted to the bottom of the league on an 8 match unbeaten run and kept them up after being appointed. He took an Aberdeen side who had finished 9th, 9th, 9th and 8th in the seasons before he was appointed (he managed the last 5 games of the 8th season) to 3rd, a Scottish Cup semi final and a League Cup win in his first full season. He followed that up by finishing 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th and 4th in his other full seasons in charge. In that time they only ever lost one cup tie to a lower league team (Hibs). And the 'oh but Hibs, Hearts and Rangers weren't in the league doesn't cut it'. Firstly there is an arrogance that a Hibs team that got relegated and subsequently spent 3 seasons in the Championship were any threat to them, and the same could be said about a Rangers team who needed 2 attempts to get out that league. Secondly the season they finished 3rd Hearts and Hibs were both in the league, the first season they finished 2nd all 3 were absent, 2nd season they finished 2nd Hearts were back, 3rd season Hearts and Rangers were back and 4th season Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were back. The season they finished 4th they were joint on points with a great Killie side and the following season was called early. He then took a Killie team who were 3rd in the Championship to the title, kept them up comfortably and this season will finish 4th with a European spot and victories over both Celtic and Rangers; a mere pipe dream for us.

He is by far and away the best manager in the league outside Glasgow. I can understand people suggesting he may not be realistic right now because he would turn us down but people not wanting him based on his record baffle me. He's incomparable to someone like Ross or, as he was ludicrously compared to recently, Butcher. Proven at the level for over a decade and still doing the business. We should be throwing everything at him and telling him he can set up the football side his way.

Crazyhorse
14-05-2024, 10:08 AM
Macinnes has to be the number one choice, Robinson second and Lennin third.

I don’t think Lennon would work out well. Lenin even less so lol
Michael O’Neill would be a good option but maybe he is happy where he is gradually building an NI team who are hard to beat and where success will be moving them up the rankings again.
I agree though DM would be worth doing our best to get.
If he can’t get results then maybe an exorcism at ER or something is called for…

Iain G
14-05-2024, 10:09 AM
Throw the kitchen sink at getting him in. Failing that, Robinson.

Will it be easier to throw Robinson at McInnes thank a kicthen sink though? 😁

MWHIBBIES
14-05-2024, 10:12 AM
The only target

Blank cheque book

Na, I'd certainly take Alex Neil too. He'd be ideal.

7Hero
14-05-2024, 10:13 AM
He would insist that the footballing department would have to overhauled and he would want control. Is that what Ian Gordon and the Board would be willing to do ?

There is no doubt he would do a job, but would they let him do what would be needed ?

Crazyhorse
14-05-2024, 10:13 AM
Stalin would get more steel up our spine, no? :greengrin

Whatever happened to dear old Lenny - did come into my head too.
A well no more heroes…

Mcbizz1998
14-05-2024, 10:14 AM
I would be astonished if he was daft enough to be interested. We had our chance and blew it, he would be mad to come here.

Iain G
14-05-2024, 10:14 AM
Na, I'd certainly take Alex Neil too. He'd be ideal.

He has done very little of note at his last few clubs and been relieved of his duties.

Alex Trager
14-05-2024, 10:17 AM
He's the stand out candidate. He improves teams quickly and gets the job done.

He got St Johnstone promoted after 7 years out of the top flight. The only failure on his CV is Bristol City and even there he took a team who were rooted to the bottom of the league on an 8 match unbeaten run and kept them up after being appointed. He took an Aberdeen side who had finished 9th, 9th, 9th and 8th in the seasons before he was appointed (he managed the last 5 games of the 8th season) to 3rd, a Scottish Cup semi final and a League Cup win in his first full season. He followed that up by finishing 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th and 4th in his other full seasons in charge. In that time they only ever lost one cup tie to a lower league team (Hibs). And the 'oh but Hibs, Hearts and Rangers weren't in the league doesn't cut it'. Firstly there is an arrogance that a Hibs team that got relegated and subsequently spent 3 seasons in the Championship were any threat to them, and the same could be said about a Rangers team who needed 2 attempts to get out that league. Secondly the season they finished 3rd Hearts and Hibs were both in the league, the first season they finished 2nd all 3 were absent, 2nd season they finished 2nd Hearts were back, 3rd season Hearts and Rangers were back and 4th season Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were back. The season they finished 4th they were joint on points with a great Killie side and the following season was called early. He then took a Killie team who were 3rd in the Championship to the title, kept them up comfortably and this season will finish 4th with a European spot and victories over both Celtic and Rangers; a mere pipe dream for us.

He is by far and away the best manager in the league outside Glasgow. I can understand people suggesting he may not be realistic right now because he would turn us down but people not wanting him based on his record baffle me. He's incomparable to someone like Ross or, as he was ludicrously compared to recently, Butcher. Proven at the level for over a decade and still doing the business. We should be throwing everything at him and telling him he can set up the football side his way.

This is it.

He simply has to be the number one, and perhaps, only target.

He also has the advantage of knowing how our players perform in this league. So can come in with less of a ‘clean slate’ that other managers would apply to
This team.

GreenCastle
14-05-2024, 10:21 AM
He’s exactly what we need right now but feel we have completely missed the boat.

The guy was out of work and we ignored him.

Would cost an absolute fortune now - plus all his staff.

Another missed opportunity by Hibs as folk running the club have no idea what they are doing.

Smartie
14-05-2024, 10:24 AM
He's the stand out candidate. He improves teams quickly and gets the job done.

He got St Johnstone promoted after 7 years out of the top flight. The only failure on his CV is Bristol City and even there he took a team who were rooted to the bottom of the league on an 8 match unbeaten run and kept them up after being appointed. He took an Aberdeen side who had finished 9th, 9th, 9th and 8th in the seasons before he was appointed (he managed the last 5 games of the 8th season) to 3rd, a Scottish Cup semi final and a League Cup win in his first full season. He followed that up by finishing 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th and 4th in his other full seasons in charge. In that time they only ever lost one cup tie to a lower league team (Hibs). And the 'oh but Hibs, Hearts and Rangers weren't in the league doesn't cut it'. Firstly there is an arrogance that a Hibs team that got relegated and subsequently spent 3 seasons in the Championship were any threat to them, and the same could be said about a Rangers team who needed 2 attempts to get out that league. Secondly the season they finished 3rd Hearts and Hibs were both in the league, the first season they finished 2nd all 3 were absent, 2nd season they finished 2nd Hearts were back, 3rd season Hearts and Rangers were back and 4th season Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were back. The season they finished 4th they were joint on points with a great Killie side and the following season was called early. He then took a Killie team who were 3rd in the Championship to the title, kept them up comfortably and this season will finish 4th with a European spot and victories over both Celtic and Rangers; a mere pipe dream for us.

He is by far and away the best manager in the league outside Glasgow. I can understand people suggesting he may not be realistic right now because he would turn us down but people not wanting him based on his record baffle me. He's incomparable to someone like Ross or, as he was ludicrously compared to recently, Butcher. Proven at the level for over a decade and still doing the business. We should be throwing everything at him and telling him he can set up the football side his way.

His track record is excellent.

Unfortunately for us, his track record also includes telling basket cases to bolt if he feels it's not he right time to leave somewhere that he's doing well so I reckon the best we could hope for from McInnes would be an early "no" rather than a saga.

hibee-boys
14-05-2024, 10:31 AM
His track record is excellent.

Unfortunately for us, his track record also includes telling basket cases to bolt if he feels it's not he right time to leave somewhere that he's doing well so I reckon the best we could hope for from McInnes would be an early "no" rather than a saga.

I’m not so sure. He’ll do very well to back up this seasons performance next year so perhaps will decide to secure a bigger job whilst his stock is high. He may view Hibs as a better long term project i.e. things can’t get much worse in the short term, no European football to try and plan for next season so focus on league form, new money being invested with a likely new CEO to build a new footballing department with. My only concern would be BK influence and how much control they’d be willing to give to him around signings etc.

Paulie Walnuts
14-05-2024, 10:34 AM
He's the stand out candidate. He improves teams quickly and gets the job done.

He got St Johnstone promoted after 7 years out of the top flight. The only failure on his CV is Bristol City and even there he took a team who were rooted to the bottom of the league on an 8 match unbeaten run and kept them up after being appointed. He took an Aberdeen side who had finished 9th, 9th, 9th and 8th in the seasons before he was appointed (he managed the last 5 games of the 8th season) to 3rd, a Scottish Cup semi final and a League Cup win in his first full season. He followed that up by finishing 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th and 4th in his other full seasons in charge. In that time they only ever lost one cup tie to a lower league team (Hibs). And the 'oh but Hibs, Hearts and Rangers weren't in the league doesn't cut it'. Firstly there is an arrogance that a Hibs team that got relegated and subsequently spent 3 seasons in the Championship were any threat to them, and the same could be said about a Rangers team who needed 2 attempts to get out that league. Secondly the season they finished 3rd Hearts and Hibs were both in the league, the first season they finished 2nd all 3 were absent, 2nd season they finished 2nd Hearts were back, 3rd season Hearts and Rangers were back and 4th season Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were back. The season they finished 4th they were joint on points with a great Killie side and the following season was called early. He then took a Killie team who were 3rd in the Championship to the title, kept them up comfortably and this season will finish 4th with a European spot and victories over both Celtic and Rangers; a mere pipe dream for us.

He is by far and away the best manager in the league outside Glasgow. I can understand people suggesting he may not be realistic right now because he would turn us down but people not wanting him based on his record baffle me. He's incomparable to someone like Ross or, as he was ludicrously compared to recently, Butcher. Proven at the level for over a decade and still doing the business. We should be throwing everything at him and telling him he can set up the football side his way.

Aye, but apart from all that :greengrin

Jim44
14-05-2024, 10:39 AM
His track record is excellent.

Unfortunately for us, his track record also includes telling basket cases to bolt if he feels it's not he right time to leave somewhere that he's doing well so I reckon the best we could hope for from McInnes would be an early "no" rather than a saga.


I’m not so sure. He’ll do very well to back up this seasons performance next year so perhaps will decide to secure a bigger job whilst his stock is high. He may view Hibs as a better long term project i.e. things can’t get much worse in the short term, no European football to try and plan for next season so focus on league form, new money being invested with a likely new CEO to build a new footballing department with. My only concern would be BK influence and how much control they’d be willing to give to him around signings etc.

I think DM will be well aware of the speculation and will possibly distance himself from the job sooner rather than later.

JohnM1875
14-05-2024, 10:41 AM
Still don’t want it to be McInnes. I can’t even really explain why given all the evidence shows he’s a fantastic manager at this level.

But think he’d definitely come if asked and paid well. His stock isn’t really going to get any higher. We all know all it takes is a bad season and your stock drops so he’d leave Killie a hero and come to a bigger club where he can (hopefully) build consistent success.

blackpoolhibs
14-05-2024, 10:42 AM
He's the stand out candidate. He improves teams quickly and gets the job done.

He got St Johnstone promoted after 7 years out of the top flight. The only failure on his CV is Bristol City and even there he took a team who were rooted to the bottom of the league on an 8 match unbeaten run and kept them up after being appointed. He took an Aberdeen side who had finished 9th, 9th, 9th and 8th in the seasons before he was appointed (he managed the last 5 games of the 8th season) to 3rd, a Scottish Cup semi final and a League Cup win in his first full season. He followed that up by finishing 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th and 4th in his other full seasons in charge. In that time they only ever lost one cup tie to a lower league team (Hibs). And the 'oh but Hibs, Hearts and Rangers weren't in the league doesn't cut it'. Firstly there is an arrogance that a Hibs team that got relegated and subsequently spent 3 seasons in the Championship were any threat to them, and the same could be said about a Rangers team who needed 2 attempts to get out that league. Secondly the season they finished 3rd Hearts and Hibs were both in the league, the first season they finished 2nd all 3 were absent, 2nd season they finished 2nd Hearts were back, 3rd season Hearts and Rangers were back and 4th season Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were back. The season they finished 4th they were joint on points with a great Killie side and the following season was called early. He then took a Killie team who were 3rd in the Championship to the title, kept them up comfortably and this season will finish 4th with a European spot and victories over both Celtic and Rangers; a mere pipe dream for us.

He is by far and away the best manager in the league outside Glasgow. I can understand people suggesting he may not be realistic right now because he would turn us down but people not wanting him based on his record baffle me. He's incomparable to someone like Ross or, as he was ludicrously compared to recently, Butcher. Proven at the level for over a decade and still doing the business. We should be throwing everything at him and telling him he can set up the football side his way.

Exactly.:top marks

Although some of his football is not 70s Brazillian, who's is?

easty
14-05-2024, 10:43 AM
Would tell us to bolt, we are a shambles 🤣

I’m not totally sure he’d take it either, but he took the Killie job when they were in a worse place than we are right now

HibeeSince85
14-05-2024, 10:45 AM
Foley just needs to call Killie, sort compo and then convince McInnes that it is changed times at Hibs and he is the man who is going to lead the resurgence.

The closest thing to a sure thing we could ever ask for.

Springbank
14-05-2024, 10:48 AM
Anyone in Derek McInnes's situation, with their personal stock riding high, would ask for assurances from the board, on recruitment and funds available

From what anyone gathers, we might have a higher budget than Rangers this summer (unless Rangers sell big, to Saudi or whoever)

So, DM would be mad to not have a conversation, before deciding to go ahead or not (all IMO)

Last Minute
14-05-2024, 10:51 AM
He's the stand out candidate. He improves teams quickly and gets the job done.

He got St Johnstone promoted after 7 years out of the top flight. The only failure on his CV is Bristol City and even there he took a team who were rooted to the bottom of the league on an 8 match unbeaten run and kept them up after being appointed. He took an Aberdeen side who had finished 9th, 9th, 9th and 8th in the seasons before he was appointed (he managed the last 5 games of the 8th season) to 3rd, a Scottish Cup semi final and a League Cup win in his first full season. He followed that up by finishing 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th and 4th in his other full seasons in charge. In that time they only ever lost one cup tie to a lower league team (Hibs). And the 'oh but Hibs, Hearts and Rangers weren't in the league doesn't cut it'. Firstly there is an arrogance that a Hibs team that got relegated and subsequently spent 3 seasons in the Championship were any threat to them, and the same could be said about a Rangers team who needed 2 attempts to get out that league. Secondly the season they finished 3rd Hearts and Hibs were both in the league, the first season they finished 2nd all 3 were absent, 2nd season they finished 2nd Hearts were back, 3rd season Hearts and Rangers were back and 4th season Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were back. The season they finished 4th they were joint on points with a great Killie side and the following season was called early. He then took a Killie team who were 3rd in the Championship to the title, kept them up comfortably and this season will finish 4th with a European spot and victories over both Celtic and Rangers; a mere pipe dream for us.

He is by far and away the best manager in the league outside Glasgow. I can understand people suggesting he may not be realistic right now because he would turn us down but people not wanting him based on his record baffle me. He's incomparable to someone like Ross or, as he was ludicrously compared to recently, Butcher. Proven at the level for over a decade and still doing the business. We should be throwing everything at him and telling him he can set up the football side his way.

100% spot on with all above. :agree:

Donegal Hibby
14-05-2024, 10:55 AM
No thanks.

I'm in the same boat . Don't think it would take long before calls for him to go were heard on here .

jakedance
14-05-2024, 10:59 AM
Would love to get McInnes. A total stand out candidate. I think McInnes can create a Hibs team that is organised, tough to beat and greater than the sum of its parts. How often has that happened?

Pretty Boy
14-05-2024, 11:07 AM
Exactly.:top marks

Although some of his football is not 70s Brazillian, who's is?

I know it's not always indicative of good or attacking football but McIness manages teams that regularly score a lot of goals. 45 goals for Killie this season places them as 7th highest scorers so not fantastic but couple with only 38 conceded it's fine. At Aberdeen his team were regularly between the 2nd and 4th highest scorers in the league so broadly in line with their league position. There is also a myth that people don't want to watch his team; with only one exception the average attendance at Aberdeen increased year on year in his time there.

I think a lot of people have clouded vision over his style at Aberdeen because they only really saw them against Hibs regularly. Quite often they would score 1 or 2 early and close up shop. How many people would have been delirious if we had managed that a few more times this season?

Finally I always felt with McInnes that when he spoke it felt like he had watched the same game I had. There was a game under Lennon at ER when we battered Aberdeen. It was 2 going on 10. After the game he broke it down, praised Hibs, said he got it wrong in how he set up and by the time he reacted it was too late. Probably small comfort for Aberdeen fans that day but after listening to the waffle of Johnson and Montgomery it would be pleasant to hear a manager talk about a game with some sense of realism.

Glesgahibby
14-05-2024, 11:13 AM
If’s,buts and maybe’s
We won’t know unless we ask.
Make him no1 target,tell him he’s no1 target.
We cannot afford to mess about anymore.
Absolute no brainier !!

Paulie Walnuts
14-05-2024, 11:23 AM
Absolute rubbish.
McInnes would have to do in six months what he managed over two years.
No one will be afforded the time required to rebuild the team.
Just forward plan for two managers a season and constant turmoil.

Ehh, no, he wouldn’t.

He wouldn’t have to get us promoted, he wouldn’t have to consolidate our place in the league and he wouldn’t have to do it on a Kilmarnock budget. The job he’d be doing here would be nothing like the one he has had at Kilmarnock.

Real Emerald
14-05-2024, 11:23 AM
He would be the ideal person for the job at this time. No projects, no rookies, no far flung managers that want to experiment with bizarre footballing philosophies. Just get a manager in that will make us solid and get results. The experiments are over.

One Day Soon
14-05-2024, 11:24 AM
I know it's not always indicative of good or attacking football but McIness manages teams that regularly score a lot of goals. 45 goals for Killie this season places them as 7th highest scorers so not fantastic but couple with only 38 conceded it's fine. At Aberdeen his team were regularly between the 2nd and 4th highest scorers in the league so broadly in line with their league position. There is also a myth that people don't want to watch his team; with only one exception the average attendance at Aberdeen increased year on year in his time there.

I think a lot of people have clouded vision over his style at Aberdeen because they only really saw them against Hibs regularly. Quite often they would score 1 or 2 early and close up shop. How many people would have been delirious if we had managed that a few more times this season?

Finally I always felt with McInnes that when he spoke it felt like he had watched the same game I had. There was a game under Lennon at ER when we battered Aberdeen. It was 2 going on 10. After the game he broke it down, praised Hibs, said he got it wrong in how he set up and by the time he reacted it was too late. Probably small comfort for Aberdeen fans that day but after listening to the waffle of Johnson and Montgomery it would be pleasant to hear a manager talk about a game with some sense of realism.

Yup. He literally knows what he is talking about and is also capable of talking about what he knows in ways that make sense. I think he's pretty honest and I suspect he's an outstanding man manager which we desperately need. And his record is good, very good.

Trinity Hibee
14-05-2024, 11:25 AM
Absolute rubbish.
McInnes would have to do in six months what he managed over two years.
No one will be afforded the time required to rebuild the team.
Just forward plan for two managers a season and constant turmoil.

I do genuinely believe mcinnes would be trusted with more time to sort this mess out. His achievements should afford him time

Real Emerald
14-05-2024, 11:28 AM
I do genuinely believe mcinnes would be trusted with more time to sort this mess out. His achievements should afford him time

Of course he would, he’s got the best track record in this league than anyone. Give him a budget, decent squad with a few gems from the BK stable and he would do a very good job. You really can’t question his qualifications for this job.

Glesgahibby
14-05-2024, 11:30 AM
He would be the ideal person for the job at this time. No projects, no rookies, no far flung managers that want to experiment with bizarre footballing philosophies. Just get a manager in that will make us solid and get results. The experiments are over.

Exactly
I’m sure at board level there must be some suggesting the same thing.

Donegal Hibby
14-05-2024, 11:32 AM
I do genuinely believe mcinnes would be trusted with more time to sort this mess out. His achievements should afford him time

His achievements elsewhere won't matter , if he started out badly like he did at Killie in is first season back were he lost 6 out of his opening 8 games then he'd deserve to be sacked like all the rest have at us .

Tyler Durden
14-05-2024, 11:32 AM
Anyone in Derek McInnes's situation, with their personal stock riding high, would ask for assurances from the board, on recruitment and funds available

From what anyone gathers, we might have a higher budget than Rangers this summer (unless Rangers sell big, to Saudi or whoever)

So, DM would be mad to not have a conversation, before deciding to go ahead or not (all IMO)

What?! No. Nowhere near.

Rangers wage bill is £25m+. We won't be spending more on fees either, if that's your confusion.

We might not even have a bigger budget than Hearts or Aberdeen.

Real Emerald
14-05-2024, 11:36 AM
His achievements elsewhere won't matter , if he started out badly like he did at Killie in is first season back were he lost 6 out of his opening 8 games then he'd deserve to be sacked like all the rest have at us .

That’s not true, Montgomery had proved absolutely nothing and there was no benchmark to show he could do it in this league at all. Hibs fans at least know McInnes knows what he’s doing and would give him the leeway to get it right based on his credentials.

DIXIHIBS
14-05-2024, 11:36 AM
Anyone in Derek McInnes's situation, with their personal stock riding high, would ask for assurances from the board, on recruitment and funds available

From what anyone gathers, we might have a higher budget than Rangers this summer (unless Rangers sell big, to Saudi or whoever)

So, DM would be mad to not have a conversation, before deciding to go ahead or not (all IMO)

Higher budget than Rangers??

He's here!
14-05-2024, 11:36 AM
He should quite clearly be our No 1 target but I imagine he'll regard us as too much of a basket case club. We're a mess. Pathetic on the field and hapless off it.

More realistically I'd have Jack Ross back. Failing that, give David Gray the opportunity.

Hibees1973
14-05-2024, 11:41 AM
Due to Kensell and Ian Gordon's deal with the Black Knights this makes a sensible option such as McInnes less likely.

Get the feeling if Kensell has been punted Ian Gordon will handover most of the football operations to the Black Knights.

Next manager will be a Black Knights appointment.

The structure of the club is clouded due to the BK deal.

Since452
14-05-2024, 11:42 AM
I don't think it would be a foregone conclusion that he'd say no. He's been very complementary about Hibs as a club in the past. Taking my green tinted specs off, with the Foley investment etc, i'd be very interested to hear what Hibs had to say.

Smartie
14-05-2024, 11:47 AM
What?! No. Nowhere near.

Rangers wage bill is £25m+. We won't be spending more on fees either, if that's your confusion.

We might not even have a bigger budget than Hearts or Aberdeen.

I heard that Rangers' wage bill for this season is bigger than Celtic's.

I've also heard that a huge chunk of their budget for next season is tied up in an obligation to sign Diomande.

Either way - our budget is going to be absolutely nowhere near theirs.

I reckon our BK boost will still leave us in 5th but a bit closer to Hearts and the sheep in 3rd and 4th.

joe breezy
14-05-2024, 11:51 AM
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A number of sources suggest that Derek Mcinnes would be open to a conversation with Hibs over the now vacant managers job.

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Fraser (Fletcher) Gillan
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A number of sources suggest that Derek Mcinnes would be open to a conversation with Hibs over the now vacant managers job.

:hyper

Springbank
14-05-2024, 11:57 AM
What?! No. Nowhere near.

Rangers wage bill is £25m+. We won't be spending more on fees either, if that's your confusion.

We might not even have a bigger budget than Hearts or Aberdeen.

We have £6m to spend

Rangers, right now, have zero (before sales)

Paulie Walnuts
14-05-2024, 11:57 AM
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Fraser (Fletcher) Gillan
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A number of sources suggest that Derek Mcinnes would be open to a conversation with Hibs over the now vacant managers job.

Please be true.

Lago
14-05-2024, 12:09 PM
Please be true.
Remind me why Aberdeen sacked him?

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 12:09 PM
If we go after McInnes we had better stump up for a plastic pitch as well:greengrin

Paulie Walnuts
14-05-2024, 12:10 PM
Remind me why Aberdeen sacked him?

Because after 8 years he went on a really poor run.

If we get 8 years of great league finishes and a cup win before that happens, then we’ll be doing very well indeed.

jeffers
14-05-2024, 12:11 PM
Remind me why Aberdeen sacked him?

How long was he there before they sacked him ?

.Sean.
14-05-2024, 12:11 PM
It’s common knowledge McInnes has always rated Hanlon, I wonder if we’d re sign him if he was appointed 😂

Exuberance1875
14-05-2024, 12:12 PM
Panic stations appointment if you ask me, football was judged eye bleeding very very recently. Now it’s let’s get him in?

Mcbizz1998
14-05-2024, 12:14 PM
Panic stations appointment if you ask me, football was judged eye bleeding very very recently. Now it’s let’s get him in?

I don't give a monkeys. This bizarre fixation with style of play over winning games has held us back in recent years. I will happily watch us ****house our way to 1-0 wins every week!

.Sean.
14-05-2024, 12:16 PM
I don't give a monkeys. This bizarre fixation with style of play over winning games has held us back in recent years. I will happily watch us ****house our way to 1-0 wins every week!
Agreed

This mythical ‘Hibs way’ of playing is as sad and as in accurate as ‘Hibs class’ is 😂

I want to be happy in the house on a Saturday evening after yet another three points. Couldn’t care less if we need to kick teams black and blue to get them

Springbank
14-05-2024, 12:17 PM
Panic stations appointment if you ask me, football was judged eye bleeding very very recently. Now it’s let’s get him in?

Bottom 6 finishes are over-rated IMO. Just look around.

Winning football games and qualifying for Europe, in this league? That's a better benchmark.

He gets a tick in the box from me

Pedantic_Hibee
14-05-2024, 12:17 PM
Agreed

This mythical ‘Hibs way’ of playing is as sad and as in accurate as ‘Hibs class’ is 😂

I want to be happy in the house on a Saturday evening after yet another three points. Couldn’t care less if we need to kick teams black and blue to get them

Spot on, good Sir.

Exuberance1875
14-05-2024, 12:19 PM
Mcinnes would draw a game we’d be wanting to win playing brutal football and this forum would be in absolute uproar at style of play.

Stuart93
14-05-2024, 12:19 PM
Panic stations appointment if you ask me, football was judged eye bleeding very very recently. Now it’s let’s get him in?

Panic stations appointment? Appointing a manager that’s got his team promoted from the championship, survived a difficult first season back then has them 4th and in Europe this season

What would be panic stations about that??

Tyler Durden
14-05-2024, 12:20 PM
We have £6m to spend

Rangers, right now, have zero (before sales)

We don't have £6m to spend.

Unseen work
14-05-2024, 12:21 PM
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Fraser (Fletcher) Gillan
@FrazFletcher

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A number of sources suggest that Derek Mcinnes would be open to a conversation with Hibs over the now vacant managers job.

His sources must be rapid - I struggle to believe Mcinnes has been spoken to by anyone about the job yet where he’s indicated he’d be keen.

I think Malky Mackay will be the next appointment as Technical Director. That will then give the manager coming in a huge amount of comfort knowing he’s there helping and sorting the club out

Pretty Boy
14-05-2024, 12:25 PM
Remind me why Aberdeen sacked him?

Because they were taken over by an egomaniac who ****ed up their entire football operation and felt they needed to take the mythical 'next step' with his own man.

Since sacking him they have gone through 6 managers and missed the top 6 in 2 out of 3 seasons. That's after never missing top 4 under McIness.

snedzuk
14-05-2024, 12:26 PM
Mcinnes would draw a game we’d be wanting to win playing brutal football and this forum would be in absolute uproar at style of play.

I remember listening to an interview he gave after Aberdeen drew 1-1 away at Killie in a midweek game. The gist of it was 'There's too many players in there that think a 1.1 draw away to Kilmarnock is a good result for Aberdeen - it isn't. They need to get that out of them. We coach them in an old firm style to believe that every time they cross that white line, they will win' etc etc etc.

Ill have some of that.

He's here!
14-05-2024, 12:29 PM
Because they were taken over by an egomaniac who ****ed up their entire football operation and felt they needed to take the mythical 'next step' with his own man.

Since sacking him they have gone through 6 managers and missed the top 6 in 2 out of 3 seasons. That's after never missing top 4 under McIness.

They've been our twin basket case club since sacking McInnes and since we sacked Ross.

Anyone claiming they wouldn't want the best Scottish manager in the league to take the Hibs job is havering.

NAE NOOKIE
14-05-2024, 12:29 PM
At this point McInnes is a no brainer. We have done the experiment thing and it hasn't worked.

The only blot on the McInnes copy book for me is that in his time with Aberdeen he only managed a single trophy, that being in his first season. Given how well they did in the league in his time it's a bit of a surprise they didn't do better in the cups.

That's the only negative I can see, in every other department he's the absolute standout candidate and no matter what folk think of his alleged 'style' it simply can't be worse than what we have had to suffer in the last few years. The other thing is that the one thing you could never accuse a McInnes team of was being soft. Every one of his teams that visited ER were nasty to the point of being bloody unpleasant to play against and that's something we have missed for too long.

He's only 52 so hardly at the stage of looking for a retirement job. Hibs could well be his last big chance to create a lasting legacy, we have the stadium, we have the potential fanbase and we have more money to spend on the squad than we have ever had. And if regular European football really is the goal you can hardly say he lacks experience in that area.

Offer him what he wants and bloody get on with it.

raeburnhibs
14-05-2024, 12:29 PM
Na, I'd certainly take Alex Neil too. He'd be ideal.

Something a bit OFF about Alex Neil.

erin go bragh
14-05-2024, 12:34 PM
Well whoever it is. The people who picked the last six managers better have nothing to do with this appointment.
I would take DM but Ronnie Deila would be my preferred choice.

Exuberance1875
14-05-2024, 12:34 PM
I remember listening to an interview he gave after Aberdeen drew 1-1 away at Killie in a midweek game. The gist of it was 'There's too many players in there that think a 1.1 draw away to Kilmarnock is a good result for Aberdeen - it isn't. They need to get that out of them. We coach them in an old firm style to believe that every time they cross that white line, they will win' etc etc etc.

Ill have some of that.

That is a fair comment. Would take stuff like this absolutely, perhaps labelling him with unfair comments earlier.

Just not sure he’d be my first choice, was my main point.

Pretty Boy
14-05-2024, 12:36 PM
Incidentally Ben Kensell's most recent activity on LinkedIn was liking a shared post by Gregg McEwan, formerly of this parish, by Kilmarnock praising the season they have had.

Almost certainly nothing in it but he has hardly been one for subtlety on his time here.

blackpoolhibs
14-05-2024, 12:38 PM
I'm in the same boat . Don't think it would take long before calls for him to go were heard on here .

Why, would he break the habit of a lifetime and fail at Hibs?

snedzuk
14-05-2024, 12:39 PM
That is a fair comment. Would take stuff like this absolutely, perhaps labelling him with unfair comments earlier.

Just not sure he’d be my first choice, was my main point.

I dont think it will be him anyway Ex1875 - much as I'd like it to be. Him reporting a supporter to the Police last time Killie came to visit probably wont help either (nor Robinson getting challenged to a 'square go' by one of our 'fans' for that matter).

Greensunshine
14-05-2024, 12:39 PM
Remind me why Aberdeen sacked him?

Eh maybe because they sold off all their best players?

One Day Soon
14-05-2024, 12:39 PM
I remember listening to an interview he gave after Aberdeen drew 1-1 away at Killie in a midweek game. The gist of it was 'There's too many players in there that think a 1.1 draw away to Kilmarnock is a good result for Aberdeen - it isn't. They need to get that out of them. We coach them in an old firm style to believe that every time they cross that white line, they will win' etc etc etc.

Ill have some of that.

Music to my ears.

Spin us McInnes

Greensunshine
14-05-2024, 12:41 PM
I dont think it will be him anyway Ex1875 - much as I'd like it to be. Him reporting a supporter to the Police last time Killie came to visit probably wont help either (nor Robinson getting challenged to a 'square go' by one of our 'fans' for that matter).


What a croc! Who gives a fly duck? None of that matters in the slightest. If he’s the best man for the job then we’d be crazy to allow such things to stop us bringing him to the club.

Lago
14-05-2024, 12:42 PM
Because they were taken over by an egomaniac who ****ed up their entire football operation and felt they needed to take the mythical 'next step' with his own man.

Since sacking him they have gone through 6 managers and missed the top 6 in 2 out of 3 seasons. That's after never missing top 4 under McIness.
Based on that synopsis he'd fit in nicely at a stable club like hibs:cb

Lago
14-05-2024, 12:43 PM
How long was he there before they sacked him ?
Why answer a question with a question?

Onion
14-05-2024, 12:45 PM
He'd be my pick but I don't see him wanting to come to Hibs. McInnes would want assurances around player budget and picking players. He just wouldn't put up with the player recruitment nonsense at Hibs. Nobody should !

Greensunshine
14-05-2024, 12:45 PM
At this point McInnes is a no brainer. We have done the experiment thing and it hasn't worked.

The only blot on the McInnes copy book for me is that in his time with Aberdeen he only managed a single trophy, that being in his first season. Given how well they did in the league in his time it's a bit of a surprise they didn't do better in the cups.

That's the only negative I can see, in every other department he's the absolute standout candidate and no matter what folk think of his alleged 'style' it simply can't be worse than what we have had to suffer in the last few years. The other thing is that the one thing you could never accuse a McInnes team of was being soft. Every one of his teams that visited ER were nasty to the point of being bloody unpleasant to play against and that's something we have missed for too long.

He's only 52 so hardly at the stage of looking for a retirement job. Hibs could well be his last big chance to create a lasting legacy, we have the stadium, we have the potential fanbase and we have more money to spend on the squad than we have ever had. And if regular European football really is the goal you can hardly say he lacks experience in that area.

Offer him what he wants and bloody get on with it.

Very good post. I agree 100% give him what he wants and let’s get this club back were it belongs!

KeithTheHibby
14-05-2024, 12:46 PM
He's the stand out candidate. He improves teams quickly and gets the job done.

He got St Johnstone promoted after 7 years out of the top flight. The only failure on his CV is Bristol City and even there he took a team who were rooted to the bottom of the league on an 8 match unbeaten run and kept them up after being appointed. He took an Aberdeen side who had finished 9th, 9th, 9th and 8th in the seasons before he was appointed (he managed the last 5 games of the 8th season) to 3rd, a Scottish Cup semi final and a League Cup win in his first full season. He followed that up by finishing 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th and 4th in his other full seasons in charge. In that time they only ever lost one cup tie to a lower league team (Hibs). And the 'oh but Hibs, Hearts and Rangers weren't in the league doesn't cut it'. Firstly there is an arrogance that a Hibs team that got relegated and subsequently spent 3 seasons in the Championship were any threat to them, and the same could be said about a Rangers team who needed 2 attempts to get out that league. Secondly the season they finished 3rd Hearts and Hibs were both in the league, the first season they finished 2nd all 3 were absent, 2nd season they finished 2nd Hearts were back, 3rd season Hearts and Rangers were back and 4th season Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were back. The season they finished 4th they were joint on points with a great Killie side and the following season was called early. He then took a Killie team who were 3rd in the Championship to the title, kept them up comfortably and this season will finish 4th with a European spot and victories over both Celtic and Rangers; a mere pipe dream for us.

He is by far and away the best manager in the league outside Glasgow. I can understand people suggesting he may not be realistic right now because he would turn us down but people not wanting him based on his record baffle me. He's incomparable to someone like Ross or, as he was ludicrously compared to recently, Butcher. Proven at the level for over a decade and still doing the business. We should be throwing everything at him and telling him he can set up the football side his way.



Bang on PB. I would love to hear why any Hibs fan would not want him based on the above.

blackpoolhibs
14-05-2024, 12:52 PM
I've wanted him since Ross was unfairly sacked, but i do wonder if he would be up for managing us the way the club is run?

Would he put up with turning up on a Monday morning training and seeing players who he had no input in signing or even wanting?

He will want the final say on much of what goes on at the club, i just have my doubts he will get it.

I very much hope i am completely wrong. :pray:

Smartie
14-05-2024, 12:55 PM
I remember discussing with someone on here (might even have been PB) what we understood by the word "pragmatic" in a football management context - and we pretty much agreed that it was someone who does what is necessary to get a result rather than someone who is negative and that it is a positive rather than a negative term.

McInnes is pragmatic - if he needs to kill the game, he will do so. Who here wouldn't enjoy an absolutely grim, ugly, hard-fought victory over Hearts with every single dark art used along the way? I sure would.

When he needs to seize the initiative and play on the front foot against weaker teams he has no qualms about doing so and his teams sign attacking players who have the freedom to play good stuff when the occasion permits.

When coming up against Rangers and Celtic he knows you need a gameplan and has hatched a few to quite devastating effect this season.



In my opinion the only negative relative to McInnes would be whether or not he'd accept the job and if you don't ask you definitely don't get. I still wouldn't expect him to take it though, unless we have some fairly major changes on the way and he had a voice in shaping those changes, which is possible tbf.

superfurryhibby
14-05-2024, 12:56 PM
McInnes had an excellent track record for identifying young talent and bringing them to Aberdeen, then eventually selling them on at considerable profit, Ryan Fraser, McKenna, Cosgrove, Ferguson, McLean spring

to mind. No one can match that record over the past decade in Scottish football.

People saying things like he doesn't need the money etc, as if they know the details of his financial circumstances but having managed St Johnstone, Bristol City, Aberdeen and Kilmarnock, I weuld doubt he'll have been raking in vast fortunes.

The eye bleeding football nonsense....aye , his teams were cynical, but they were well able to play football. WE had some fantastic tussles with them and they could play, despite the gamesmanship etc and my memory is that they often got a result against us, even when we were a pretty decent outfit ourselves.

McInnes is the man with the credentials and if the board give him the money and leeway to buy his players, he will transform the club.

Get him in now Hibs.

jeffers
14-05-2024, 12:57 PM
Why answer a question with a question?

I think it was fairly obvious why I asked it.

NAE NOOKIE
14-05-2024, 12:59 PM
I dont think it will be him anyway Ex1875 - much as I'd like it to be. Him reporting a supporter to the Police last time Killie came to visit probably wont help either (nor Robinson getting challenged to a 'square go' by one of our 'fans' for that matter).

I think in the case of McInnes or Robinson those incidents will be a factor in accepting an offer from Hibs somewhere between how close their parking space will be to the front door of HCT and what ply the bog paper will be in the lavvy they use.

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 01:11 PM
Bang on PB. I would love to hear why any Hibs fan would not want him based on the above.

Because he was terrible first year in the SPL. Killie fans wanted him gone. Cannot win a meaningful away game.....thats a huge red flag for me. The plastic park has done for him what it did for Martindalefor several years. If he was so good why could his team not beat us this season in 3 attempts? He has had a great season this year.....but not for me.

Ardenttwo
14-05-2024, 01:13 PM
Has to be number one target

Easy to be clever now but I said at the time it should have been McInnes but a lot on here did not want him because of his style of boring football.

Iain G
14-05-2024, 01:16 PM
Easy to be clever now but I said at the time it should have been McInnes but a lot on here did not want him because of his style of boring football.

Still don't want him!

Stokesy's on fire
14-05-2024, 01:21 PM
He is the standout candidate for me...hope we get him.

we are hibs
14-05-2024, 01:22 PM
Mcinnes would draw a game we’d be wanting to win playing brutal football and this forum would be in absolute uproar at style of play.His Killie side have dropped 19 points from winning positions this season.



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He's here!
14-05-2024, 01:23 PM
Well whoever it is. The people who picked the last six managers better have nothing to do with this appointment.
I would take DM but Ronnie Deila would be my preferred choice.

You think Ross and Lennon were failed appointments? They both did great for the majority of their time at ER. Hard to imagine what your expectations must be for a club like Hibs, which has had one top 3 finish in two decades.

He's here!
14-05-2024, 01:29 PM
Because he was terrible first year in the SPL. Killie fans wanted him gone. Cannot win a meaningful away game.....thats a huge red flag for me. The plastic park has done for him what it did for Martindalefor several years. If he was so good why could his team not beat us this season in 3 attempts? He has had a great season this year.....but not for me.

He has a proven track record of excellence at Aberdeen and St Johnstone and has been given the time to turn Killie around, being willing to drop a division to do so. Now he's heading for Europe with them while we rattle around in 9th spot. I hardly imagine failing to beat Hibs this season is affecting his sleep. He enjoyed plenty of wins against us at Aberdeen.

Curried
14-05-2024, 01:40 PM
Just dinnae no get this Hun that ken's noth'n other than hoof-ball.....otherwise I'm no getting ma checkbook out.

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 01:41 PM
He has a proven track record of excellence at Aberdeen and St Johnstone and has been given the time to turn Killie around, being willing to drop a division to do so. Now he's heading for Europe with them while we rattle around in 9th spot. I hardly imagine failing to beat Hibs this season is affecting his sleep. He enjoyed plenty of wins against us at Aberdeen.

So you have no concerns at all that he was won, i think, 6 away games in the spl in 2 seasons? I said he had a great season, where was he last season? Its the cyclical nature of the SPL, someone has a good season and they are the next hot thing. Never lasts though. Look at Jim Goodwin? If he comes up next season and gets 4th, would you want him? I mean he got Dundee Utd promoted? Was a success at St Mirren?

Stevie Reid
14-05-2024, 01:46 PM
I know it's not always indicative of good or attacking football but McIness manages teams that regularly score a lot of goals. 45 goals for Killie this season places them as 7th highest scorers so not fantastic but couple with only 38 conceded it's fine. At Aberdeen his team were regularly between the 2nd and 4th highest scorers in the league so broadly in line with their league position. There is also a myth that people don't want to watch his team; with only one exception the average attendance at Aberdeen increased year on year in his time there.

I think a lot of people have clouded vision over his style at Aberdeen because they only really saw them against Hibs regularly. Quite often they would score 1 or 2 early and close up shop. How many people would have been delirious if we had managed that a few more times this season?

Finally I always felt with McInnes that when he spoke it felt like he had watched the same game I had. There was a game under Lennon at ER when we battered Aberdeen. It was 2 going on 10. After the game he broke it down, praised Hibs, said he got it wrong in how he set up and by the time he reacted it was too late. Probably small comfort for Aberdeen fans that day but after listening to the waffle of Johnson and Montgomery it would be pleasant to hear a manager talk about a game with some sense of realism.

100% PB. I’ve written the vast majority of what what you have across two excellent posts in this thread, more times than I care to remember on this board.

It is utterly baffling that a manager who has a record as good as his with non-OF teams in Scotland constantly attracts so much derision on here.

When you add in that he always comes across really well, has always been respectful when speaking of Hibs and assessing matches he’s managed teams against us in, pays no lip service to Rangers despite being a former player, and twice showed seriously loyalty to Aberdeen when bigger jobs came calling, I find the negativity from many towards him to be really bizarre.

greenlex
14-05-2024, 01:46 PM
So you have no concerns at all that he was won, i think, 6 away games in the spl in 2 seasons? I said he had a great season, where was he last season? It’s the cyclical nature of the SPL, someone has a good season and they are the next hot thing. Never lasts though. Look at Jim Goodwin? If he comes up next season and gets 4th, would you want him? I mean he got Dundee Utd promoted? Was a success at St Mirren?
You are ignoring his Aberdeen and St Johnstone stints. For where we are he is the outstanding candidate of that there is no doubt. I don’t think he will be interested though.

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 01:50 PM
You are ignoring his Aberdeen and St Johnstone stints. For where we are he is the outstanding candidate of that there is no doubt. I don’t think he will be interested though.

Im not, i could say you are ignoring his Bristol City stint? Im saying he is the 'next best thing' because he has had a good season. No one wanted him when he left Aberdeen? Why? What has he won in his stellar career? He had a run in the SPL with no hibs for three seasons, no rangers for 3 seasons? And hearts for was it one or 2 seasons? Cant remember. He won one cup in 2013.

I understand folk wanting stability etc but i just dont McInnes is the guy for me.

He's here!
14-05-2024, 01:53 PM
So you have no concerns at all that he was won, i think, 6 away games in the spl in 2 seasons? I said he had a great season, where was he last season? Its the cyclical nature of the SPL, someone has a good season and they are the next hot thing. Never lasts though. Look at Jim Goodwin? If he comes up next season and gets 4th, would you want him? I mean he got Dundee Utd promoted? Was a success at St Mirren?

His CV speaks for itself. He put together around seven straight seasons of top 2 or 3 finishes at Aberdeen and has had Killie on a consistently upward trajectory, same as he did St Johnstone, so he's certainly not of the 'occasional good season' variety. His admirable consistency is something we've lacked for half a century.

Dashing Bob S
14-05-2024, 01:53 PM
He's the stand out candidate. He improves teams quickly and gets the job done.

He got St Johnstone promoted after 7 years out of the top flight. The only failure on his CV is Bristol City and even there he took a team who were rooted to the bottom of the league on an 8 match unbeaten run and kept them up after being appointed. He took an Aberdeen side who had finished 9th, 9th, 9th and 8th in the seasons before he was appointed (he managed the last 5 games of the 8th season) to 3rd, a Scottish Cup semi final and a League Cup win in his first full season. He followed that up by finishing 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th and 4th in his other full seasons in charge. In that time they only ever lost one cup tie to a lower league team (Hibs). And the 'oh but Hibs, Hearts and Rangers weren't in the league doesn't cut it'. Firstly there is an arrogance that a Hibs team that got relegated and subsequently spent 3 seasons in the Championship were any threat to them, and the same could be said about a Rangers team who needed 2 attempts to get out that league. Secondly the season they finished 3rd Hearts and Hibs were both in the league, the first season they finished 2nd all 3 were absent, 2nd season they finished 2nd Hearts were back, 3rd season Hearts and Rangers were back and 4th season Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were back. The season they finished 4th they were joint on points with a great Killie side and the following season was called early. He then took a Killie team who were 3rd in the Championship to the title, kept them up comfortably and this season will finish 4th with a European spot and victories over both Celtic and Rangers; a mere pipe dream for us.

He is by far and away the best manager in the league outside Glasgow. I can understand people suggesting he may not be realistic right now because he would turn us down but people not wanting him based on his record baffle me. He's incomparable to someone like Ross or, as he was ludicrously compared to recently, Butcher. Proven at the level for over a decade and still doing the business. We should be throwing everything at him and telling him he can set up the football side his way.

It’s a convincing and compelling argument for him. I’ve never been smitten but we need to defend strongly, compete in the middle and take our chances. He has a proven record of getting teams to do that. On a Foley budget we’d be cemented in the top four if he got to set things up his way.

We should go to him and make a serious offer. Foley should come clean and say ‘yes the club has been a basket case but this is decidedly a new broom.’

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 02:01 PM
His CV speaks for itself. He put together around seven straight seasons of top 2 or 3 finishes at Aberdeen and has had Killie on a consistently upward trajectory, same as he did St Johnstone, so he's certainly not of the 'occasional good season' variety. His admirable consistency is something we've lacked for half a century.
What has he won? One League Cup. You havent addressed his away record? Thats not a concern for you? Thats recent and relevant, his record away from the plastic pitch is relegation form?
Anyway, ive said my piece. If he is appointed he will get my full support:thumbsup:

AugustaHibs
14-05-2024, 02:03 PM
Patrick mpartlin has tweeted that it will certainly be a ‘head coach’ rather than a manager, so that rules Mcinnes out.

Sigh..

easty
14-05-2024, 02:12 PM
What has he won? One League Cup. You havent addressed his away record? Thats not a concern for you? Thats recent and relevant, his record away from the plastic pitch is relegation form?
Anyway, ive said my piece. If he is appointed he will get my full support:thumbsup:

A cups a cup. To win one in Scotland you have to be lucky enough to have both the old firm have off days in that campaign. Budget wise Celtc and Rangers should win everything.

K-Zazu
14-05-2024, 02:16 PM
Patrick mpartlin has tweeted that it will certainly be a ‘head coach’ rather than a manager, so that rules Mcinnes out.

Sigh..

Hibs head coach Derek McIness. Sounds fine to me.

AugustaHibs
14-05-2024, 02:17 PM
Hibs head coach Derek McIness. Sounds fine to me.

He’s no daft, he’s no gonna sign up for a job where a boy who ran a vineyard in California is telling him who he can and cannot sign.

Mcbizz1998
14-05-2024, 02:18 PM
Patrick mpartlin has tweeted that it will certainly be a ‘head coach’ rather than a manager, so that rules Mcinnes out.

Sigh..

Why would we be making a decision like that before even speaking to candidates? Not saying it isn't true btw, just that it would seem like a stupid decision to make before we know who is interested.

Lets say, for arguments sake, David Moyes fancies the job but says he wants to be Manager and not Head Coach. Are we telling Moyes to bolt because we are adamant it has to be a head coach?

AugustaHibs
14-05-2024, 02:19 PM
Why would we be making a decision like that before even speaking to candidates? Not saying it isn't true btw, just that it would seem like a stupid decision to make before we know who is interested.

Lets say, for arguments sake, David Moyes fancies the job but says he wants to be Manager and not Head Coach. Are we telling Moyes to bolt because we are adamant it has to be a head coach?


With the people in charge, I genuinely think they’d tell ancelotti to do one if he wanted to come but have full control.

richard_pitts
14-05-2024, 02:19 PM
I've wanted him since Ross was unfairly sacked, but i do wonder if he would be up for managing us the way the club is run?

Would he put up with turning up on a Monday morning training and seeing players who he had no input in signing or even wanting?

He will want the final say on much of what goes on at the club, i just have my doubts he will get it.

I very much hope i am completely wrong. :pray:

Bang on. Too much of our club's footballing side appears run by enthusiastic amateurs and that has to change.

Hibees1973
14-05-2024, 02:22 PM
Cannot see McInnes coming anywhere near us just now, unfortunately.

Basket case of a football club.

MWHIBBIES
14-05-2024, 02:37 PM
We have £6m to spend

Rangers, right now, have zero (before sales)

Are those sales their season tickets that bring in millions?

We will not be spending anything like 6 million either.

wookie70
14-05-2024, 02:37 PM
What has he won? One League Cup. You havent addressed his away record? Thats not a concern for you? Thats recent and relevant, his record away from the plastic pitch is relegation form?
Anyway, ive said my piece. If he is appointed he will get my full support:thumbsup:

More away points this year than Robinson has and the same as we got on a fraction of the budget. McInnes is and has been a no-brainer for some time. His record means he is almost a certainty to achieve the minimum expected. No other candidate fits that bill

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 02:44 PM
More away points this year than Robinson has and the same as we got at a fraction of the budget. McInnes is and has been a no-brainer for some time. His record means he is almost a certainty to achieve the minimum expected. No other candidate fits that bill
So we have had an abysmal season and he got the same away points as us? He has won the least amount of away games this season(joint) in the SPL and im sure 2 in the last couple of weeks when the games were basically done. Aye thats def a candidate like no other. Huge red flag

jeffers
14-05-2024, 02:47 PM
So we have had an abysmal season and he got the same away points as us? He has won the least amount of away games this season(joint) in the SPL and im sure 2 in the last couple of weeks when the games were basically done. Aye thats def a candidate like no other. Huge red flag

So it’s not about how many points his team gained over the season that’s important it’s whether enough of them were in away games ?

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 02:49 PM
So it’s not about how many points his team gained over the season that’s important it’s whether enough of them were in away games ?

Yes it is, but anyone who says that the pitch hasnt had a huge effect on their results is kidding themselves. Listen, he has done a great job for Killie this year....but ive seen them a couple of times, away from home, and aint good viewing.

Springbank
14-05-2024, 02:49 PM
Are those sales their season tickets that bring in millions?

We will not be spending anything like 6 million either.

Q1 - the sales are Player sales. Their season ticket money is already spoken for. They have no transfer money without player sales. That's been made 100% clear to their manager.

Q2 - I'll take Bill Foley's word over yours for the time being (he has said we are spending £6m this summer) and I hope he's right, but I will be happy to acknowledge in Sept if it doesn't happen

The point here, of course, is we have a transfer war chest, that exists and has been identified

Rangers, on the other hand, are hand-to-mouth and need to sell before they can pay a fee for anyone

Pretty Boy
14-05-2024, 02:52 PM
So we have had an abysmal season and he got the same away points as us? He has won the least amount of away games this season(joint) in the SPL and im sure 2 in the last couple of weeks when the games were basically done. Aye thats def a candidate like no other. Huge red flag

Our games might have been 'basically done' for the last few weeks but Kilmarnock's certainly weren't.

Becuase of the season McInnes has guided them to they needed a couple wins to guarantee European football whilst we were downing tools and getting beat in dead rubbers.

God forbid we have a bit of that top 6, meaningful action next season.

MWHIBBIES
14-05-2024, 02:53 PM
Q1 - the sales are Player sales. Their season ticket money is already spoken for. They have no transfer money without player sales. That's been made 100% clear to their manager.

Q2 - I'll take Bill Foley's word over yours for the time being (he has said we are spending £6m this summer) and I hope he's right, but I will be happy to acknowledge in Sept if it doesn't happen

The point here, of course, is we have a transfer war chest, that exists and has been identified

Rangers, on the other hand, are hand-to-mouth and need to sell before they can pay a fee for anyone

Rangers will spend comfortably more than us without selling.

We aren't spending 6 million on players.

Lago
14-05-2024, 02:54 PM
I think it was fairly obvious why I asked it.
Duck and dive :greengrin

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 02:58 PM
Our games might have been 'basically done' for the last few weeks but Kilmarnock's certainly weren't.

Becuase of the season McInnes has guided them to they needed a couple wins to guarantee European football whilst we were downing tools and getting beat in dead rubbers.

God forbid we have a bit of that top 6, meaningful action next season.

He has won 6 away games in 2 seasons in the SPL....god forbid i want a manager better than that.

Smartie
14-05-2024, 02:59 PM
So it’s not about how many points his team gained over the season that’s important it’s whether enough of them were in away games ?

I'd have thought that getting Killie to the position he's got them would override a few of the smaller details?

Smartie
14-05-2024, 03:01 PM
He has won 6 away games in 2 seasons in the SPL....god forbid i want a manager better than that.

If he wants to come in and do the Hibs equivalent of getting Killie clear in fourth he can win as few away games as he likes.

jeffers
14-05-2024, 03:03 PM
Duck and dive :greengrin

:greengrin

jeffers
14-05-2024, 03:07 PM
Yes it is, but anyone who says that the pitch hasnt had a huge effect on their results is kidding themselves. Listen, he has done a great job for Killie this year....but ive seen them a couple of times, away from home, and aint good viewing.

Of course it has, but consider the budget we have in comparison to Killie. I’d love nothing better than to see us play like we did under Mowbray, but it’s time we were a bit more pragmatic. McInnes is certainly that. Another factor although intangible is that he’s a media darling.

jeffers
14-05-2024, 03:10 PM
I'd have thought that getting Killie to the position he's got them would override a few of the smaller details?

:agree: It would for me.

Gordy M
14-05-2024, 03:12 PM
Of course it has, but consider the budget we have in comparison to Killie. I’d love nothing better than to see us play like we did under Mowbray, but it’s time we were a bit more pragmatic. McInnes is certainly that. Another factor although intangible is that he’s a media darling.
Yeh i understand why folk want him, but i dont enjoy the way he sets his team up. As i said ive seen them a few times, on grass, including when we had them at home. I saw nothing that made me think....he is the outstanding candiate for us. Just my opinion.

EdinMike
14-05-2024, 03:14 PM
The way I look at it, if I took my green-tinted glasses off and I was Derek McInnes. Would I join Hibs at the moment ?

Probably not, keep doing well at Killie something bigger will come.

raeburnhibs
14-05-2024, 03:15 PM
Yeh i understand why folk want him, but i dont enjoy the way he sets his team up. As i said ive seen them a few times, on grass, including when we had them at home. I saw nothing that made me think....he is the outstanding candiate for us. Just my opinion.

I’d like a winning team who get stuck in about the jumbos, couldn’t give a flying one how the team is set up

jeffers
14-05-2024, 03:18 PM
Yeh i understand why folk want him, but i dont enjoy the way he sets his team up. As i said ive seen them a few times, on grass, including when we had them at home. I saw nothing that made me think....he is the outstanding candiate for us. Just my opinion.

I get that. Whoever we appoint is a gamble. If it’s not him Alex Neil would be someone I think we should look closely at.

Personally I don’t see us even approaching McInnes anyway. I don’t think we have the money to pay off Monty, pay comp for McInnes as well as fund a major squad rebuild.

SHODAN
14-05-2024, 03:19 PM
He has won 6 away games in 2 seasons in the SPL....god forbid i want a manager better than that.

How's his home record?

Smartie
14-05-2024, 03:21 PM
Yeh i understand why folk want him, but i dont enjoy the way he sets his team up. As i said ive seen them a few times, on grass, including when we had them at home. I saw nothing that made me think....he is the outstanding candiate for us. Just my opinion.

What I saw was a team that regularly managed to find a way to get the better of us... a much better version of "us" than the present incarnation too.

Yes, it was often ugly but it was effective. We could do with a bit of effective.

Grinding out hideous wins at Pittodrie and Tynecastle that has their supporters up in arms... lovely stuff.

Donegal Hibby
14-05-2024, 03:21 PM
Yeh i understand why folk want him, but i dont enjoy the way he sets his team up. As i said ive seen them a few times, on grass, including when we had them at home. I saw nothing that made me think....he is the outstanding candiate for us. Just my opinion.

Your not the only one with that opinion btw 👍

huggie1875
14-05-2024, 03:25 PM
No


Liam Rosenior please.


no thanks no more experiments someone who knows our league is the only choice this time

wookie70
14-05-2024, 03:28 PM
I get that. Whoever we appoint is a gamble. If it’s not him Alex Neil would be someone I think we should look closely at.

Personally I don’t see us even approaching McInnes anyway. I don’t think we have the money to pay off Monty, pay comp for McInnes as well as fund a major squad rebuild.

I think anyone outside of McInnes is a gamble. He is about as close to a sure thing to do the job at the required level as you can get. Has did well in the league with small clubs and comparable clubs to us. We have had quite a few managers who talk exiting football but it never plays out that way. McInnes plays effective football, his teams score at a good rate and I doubt many have ever watched a McInnes team and wondered what he was thinking. He is exactly what we need, a few years of stability and playing at a decent level and finishing where we should. Get him to build a squad and then see where that takes us. My fear is we will get a manger that wants to play one way and that is possession football. If that is said at an interview we should tell the candidate that they are not welcome unless they are bringing a massive budget with them to rival the Uglies. We need someone that plays a style that suits the squad and makes us competitive against our rivals. He will get us winning and scoring and the football for the most part will be better than the majority we have witnessed for the last couple of decades or more. He would be crazy to take the job though as a sizeable number in our support have bizarrely made their minds up that he is a hun who plays boring football despite evidence to the contrary on both counts. Perhaps the biggest reason to go after McInnes is that if we do see some success he may actually stay rather than scarper like Mowbray and McLeish etc

Is It On....
14-05-2024, 03:28 PM
No


Liam Rosenior please.

Greg Docherty please 🙂

bod
14-05-2024, 03:32 PM
McInnes, what do you want? We'll give you anything. ANYTHING

What if he askes for all our transfer budget ? Gets crap results because of the quality of players he’s left to use starts the season terrible & the fans want him out after not qualifying out the league cup groups .
I agree he should be approached but we can’t just pay what killie or he himself wants

GordonHFC
14-05-2024, 03:34 PM
If we are looking for a Head Coach it aint gonna be McInnes.

babahibs
14-05-2024, 03:50 PM
I'm pretty certain the refs wouldn't allow Hibs to get away with kicking other teams off the park the way his Aberdeen side got away with on multiple occasions.

blackpoolhibs
14-05-2024, 04:07 PM
Im not, i could say you are ignoring his Bristol City stint? Im saying he is the 'next best thing' because he has had a good season. No one wanted him when he left Aberdeen? Why? What has he won in his stellar career? He had a run in the SPL with no hibs for three seasons, no rangers for 3 seasons? And hearts for was it one or 2 seasons? Cant remember. He won one cup in 2013.

I understand folk wanting stability etc but i just dont McInnes is the guy for me.

I wanted him after the Ross debacle.

NC1875
14-05-2024, 04:08 PM
How’s his relationship with malky mckay ?

JeMeSouviens
14-05-2024, 04:36 PM
How’s his relationship with malky mckay ?


Good -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c51ez427j41o

Since452
14-05-2024, 04:36 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c51ez427j41o

Very promising

Hibernia&Alba
14-05-2024, 05:04 PM
He must be high on any shortlist, I would think. Whether he would want to get involved in this madhoose, if offered, is anybody’s guess. I think he would be a good appointment who could steady the club and then improve us.

Billy Whizz
14-05-2024, 05:10 PM
Derek liking Malky or not, but he usually takes his own DOF with him

Springbank
14-05-2024, 08:42 PM
Derek liking Malky or not, but he usually takes his own DOF with him

The fact his long term assistant is no longer with him suggests Derek McInnes isn't narrow minded about the staffing side, and maybe more pragmatic than you think

DH1875
15-05-2024, 06:33 AM
Would take him but don't think there is any chance of him taking the job.

CapitalGreen
15-05-2024, 06:40 AM
Get Derek McInnes and sign the spine of this Killie team too in Will Dennis, Stuart Findlay and David Watson.

jakeshibs
15-05-2024, 06:46 AM
Cant honestly see Derek Mcinnes coming to Hibs, knowing our history of sacking managers and the damage it would do to his reputation after guiding Kilmarnock to europe.

Alex Trager
15-05-2024, 06:46 AM
I dont think it will be him anyway Ex1875 - much as I'd like it to be. Him reporting a supporter to the Police last time Killie came to visit probably wont help either (nor Robinson getting challenged to a 'square go' by one of our 'fans' for that matter).

Did Robinson not get offered ootside by a SM fan?

I don’t think these things would sway folk.

BH Hibs
15-05-2024, 12:30 PM
I don’t really get the posts saying he would turn us down due to his reputation taking a hit or he could go to bigger or better things. I can’t see him being offered the job at either of the Glasgow clubs which only leaves us, Hearts and Aberdeen if he wants to go to a bigger club in Scotland. He has tried England before and things didn’t turn out that well for him then and also I can’t see a Premiership or even top Championship club going for him due to their snobbery about Scottish football which leaves bottom championship or league one or two. Hibs are bigger than that. Of course he may well be content at staying at Killie as he’s settled there or maybe he has been told the Scotland job could be coming up fairly soon and he’s in for a shout of that.

Hibby Kay-Yay
15-05-2024, 12:40 PM
Cant honestly see Derek Mcinnes coming to Hibs, knowing our history of sacking managers and the damage it would do to his reputation after guiding Kilmarnock to europe.

His reputation would be fine. It’s our reputation of sacking managers that would be an easy out for McInnes if it didn’t work out at Hibs. I have no doubt DM would find other roles after us.

What I could see is DM doing well for us and then taking over the reigns from Steve Clark.

worcesterhibby
15-05-2024, 01:12 PM
His reputation would be fine. It’s our reputation of sacking managers that would be an easy out for McInnes if it didn’t work out at Hibs. I have no doubt DM would find other roles after us.

What I could see is DM doing well for us and then taking over the reigns from Steve Clark.

That would be fine if we got Steve Clarke in exchange.

tonyrougier123
15-05-2024, 01:17 PM
My first pick would definitely be mcinness. Malky also speaks highly on his recent podcast appearance about his friendship with Ipswich no.2

Few irons in the fire and food for thought.🙌🏻

Springbank
15-05-2024, 04:44 PM
Assuming Killie's finances see them forced to accept offers for Armstrong & Watson

Next season McInnes would be starting with a depleted squad, and be tasked with Europe & league business, with that depleted squad.

You only need to look at Dundee United & Jack Ross 2022 to see how that movie works

A move, while his stock is sky high, to a club with £millions coming in the door?

He might - as Hibs manager - be the guy to buy Armstrong....

Trinity Hibee
15-05-2024, 04:47 PM
Assuming Killie's finances see them forced to accept offers for Armstrong & Watson

Next season McInnes would be starting with a depleted squad, and be tasked with Europe & league business, with that depleted squad.

You only need to look at Dundee United & Jack Ross 2022 to see how that movie works

A move, while his stock is sky high, to a club with £millions coming in the door?

He might - as Hibs manager - be the guy to buy Armstrong....

It is a good point. Definitely taken Killie as far as he can and likely to lose his best players in summer. He’ll know he’s only a few bad results from being on a shoogly peg there

GreenCastle
15-05-2024, 08:16 PM
Hmm currently 5-0 down at home to Celtic..

Trinity Hibee
15-05-2024, 08:16 PM
Hmm currently 5-0 down at home to Celtic..

Mind is on the Hibs job

blackpoolhibs
15-05-2024, 08:16 PM
Hmm currently 5-0 down at home to Celtic..

I'd sack him tonight.

Since452
16-05-2024, 08:29 AM
Hmm currently 5-0 down at home to Celtic..

He should resign immediately

SteveHFC
16-05-2024, 08:46 AM
To be fair don't think any team were stopping celtic last night

GreenCastle
16-05-2024, 08:53 AM
To be fair don't think any team were stopping celtic last night

Peaked at the right time - Rodgers also basically saying after game it was a brilliant performance.

Killie changed their keeper too as he’s leaving.

Gordy M
16-05-2024, 12:00 PM
In regards to McInnes not wanting to come to Hibs....ive seen that a few times on here. Where do you think Killie finish next year. Assuming Hibs and Aberdeen get their act together, Dundee Utd back in the top league.....there is a good chance that he is back in the bottom 4/5? I dont want him but if Hibs offered it to him, i think he would def need to consider it.

MWHIBBIES
16-05-2024, 12:49 PM
In regards to McInnes not wanting to come to Hibs....ive seen that a few times on here. Where do you think Killie finish next year. Assuming Hibs and Aberdeen get their act together, Dundee Utd back in the top league.....there is a good chance that he is back in the bottom 4/5? I dont want him but if Hibs offered it to him, i think he would def need to consider it.

Kilmarnock will be comfortably above Dundee United.

Springbank
16-05-2024, 01:17 PM
It's maybe back to the football & finances point though

No doubt, this years killie, would finish above this years Utd

But who knows what next years killie will look like when offers come in for Armstrong & Watson?

And Utd (along with Hibs & Aberdeen) will be in a better position than killie to strengthen

MWHIBBIES
16-05-2024, 01:19 PM
It's maybe back to the football & finances point though

No doubt, this years killie, would finish above this years Utd

But who knows what next years killie will look like when offers come in for Armstrong & Watson?

And Utd (along with Hibs & Aberdeen) will be in a better position than killie to strengthen

Kilmarnock have a manager who they can back and trust to deliver. They should make a few beans selling players, and have some cash from Europe. Id expect them to sign some decent players.

Donegal Hibby
16-05-2024, 01:22 PM
Kilmarnock will be comfortably above Dundee United.

I think your probably right though things can change awful quickly at times in football , it will be interesting to see how they cope with losing Armstrong etc . Do they not have to replace their pitch this year or is it the next again ? .

Aldo
16-05-2024, 02:07 PM
McInnes won’t get a managing/coaching job at Celtic or Sevco. I’d be surprised if he went back north and hearts don’t need a manager. So the only other BIG job out there if he didn’t come to Hibs would be the National job.

Go get him Malky!

Crazyhorse
16-05-2024, 06:09 PM
McInnes won’t get a managing/coaching job at Celtic or Sevco. I’d be surprised if he went back north and hearts don’t need a manager. So the only other BIG job out there if he didn’t come to Hibs would be the National job.

Go get him Malky!

I think McInnes would see himself as a manager not
a coach. Who knows but that probably means he wouldn’t be interested.
If this model fails maybe we will go after him in a couple of years.

California-Hibs
16-05-2024, 08:00 PM
I think McInnes would see himself as a manager not
a coach. Who knows but that probably means he wouldn’t be interested.
If this model fails maybe we will go after him in a couple of years.

I wouldn't get all caught up with titles. Whoever comes in will be the manager in every sense of the word.

Pytheas
16-05-2024, 10:13 PM
I wouldn't get all caught up with titles. Whoever comes in will be the manager in every sense of the word.


Thats how i see it, he may have slightly reduced influence on the players we bring in, but will still have 1st refusal on signings, pick the team, train the team.

Heedersnvolleys
17-05-2024, 06:56 AM
I wouldn't get all caught up with titles. Whoever comes in will be the manager in every sense of the word.

It’s not just titles several pundits and commentators have said recently McInnes would not take the job because of our structure as he would want control of all football matters.

Allant1981
17-05-2024, 07:32 AM
I'd like DM to be the next manager but can't see it, when was the last time we went for a manager who was doing well and employed at another club, just not the way we work

K-Zazu
17-05-2024, 07:41 AM
I'd like DM to be the next manager but can't see it, when was the last time we went for a manager who was doing well and employed at another club, just not the way we work

Mcleish, Yogi maybe 🤷🏼*♂️. Can’t think of many.

USA_Hibee
17-05-2024, 07:44 AM
I'd like DM to be the next manager but can't see it, when was the last time we went for a manager who was doing well and employed at another club, just not the way we work

Monty? 👀

Ozyhibby
17-05-2024, 08:09 AM
I'd like DM to be the next manager but can't see it, when was the last time we went for a manager who was doing well and employed at another club, just not the way we work

Butcher?


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Mcbizz1998
17-05-2024, 08:23 AM
Monty? 👀

Beat me to it. Just goes to show that approach isn't guaranteed to work.

Butcher another one!

easty
17-05-2024, 08:46 AM
It’s not just titles several pundits and commentators have said recently McInnes would not take the job because of our structure as he would want control of all football matters.

Who, and where have they said that? I cannae find anything online about people saying he won't take it except from Tam McManus, and he's not got a clue. About anything.

Jim44
17-05-2024, 08:50 AM
MM said they would be looking for someone who is flexible and open to new ideas (paraphrased) and I don’t think DM fits that roll.

Allant1981
17-05-2024, 09:00 AM
Monty? 👀

As daft as it will sound I actually forgot about him!!

Ozyhibby
17-05-2024, 09:01 AM
MM said they would be looking for someone who is flexible and open to new ideas (paraphrased) and I don’t think DM fits that roll.

A new idea at Hibs would be to hire a good manager.


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NC1875
19-05-2024, 10:06 AM
Scottish football writers association Manager of the Year.

Says it all really, make it happen Hibs.

erin go bragh
19-05-2024, 10:10 AM
I'd like DM to be the next manager but can't see it, when was the last time we went for a manager who was doing well and employed at another club, just not the way we work

Terry Butcher 😵*💫had Inverness 2nd when we signed him.

GreenNWhiteArmy
19-05-2024, 10:21 AM
I'd like DM to be the next manager but can't see it, when was the last time we went for a manager who was doing well and employed at another club, just not the way we work

In my lifetime:

McLeish
Williamson
Yogi
Fenlon
Butcher
Monty

Were all arguably performing at their level when appointed.

I think this time round, it's hard to see beyond at least reaching out to DM.

Onion
19-05-2024, 10:28 AM
MM said they would be looking for someone who is flexible and open to new ideas (paraphrased) and I don’t think DM fits that roll.

50 shades of David Gray, then.

O'Rourke3
20-05-2024, 10:55 AM
Oh good another DM thread

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MWHIBBIES
20-05-2024, 02:36 PM
I'd like DM to be the next manager but can't see it, when was the last time we went for a manager who was doing well and employed at another club, just not the way we work

Literally the last guy we hired

NORTHERNHIBBY
20-05-2024, 03:03 PM
It’s not just titles several pundits and commentators have said recently McInnes would not take the job because of our structure as he would want control of all football matters.

Equally , Willie Miller said that DM would leap at the chance to manage Hibs so it looks like everyone has an opinion, but naebody really kens.

Iain G
20-05-2024, 04:06 PM
Literally the last guy we hired

Aye, but pub league!?! 😁🤣

Allant1981
20-05-2024, 08:29 PM
Literally the last guy we hired

I had actually forgot about him when I typed that post!

Nicho87
20-05-2024, 08:31 PM
I still find it mad how there are Hibs fans that appear snobbish towards McInnes

Podcast I listened to DTS, Liam went on about how bad the football was or words to that effect

We have just finished bottom half and seen another project manager epically fail

What more do you want?
Established proven manager at this level who has always succeeded at Scottish clubs managed

We should be giving him a blank cheque book

Trinity Hibee
20-05-2024, 08:34 PM
I still find it mad how there are Hibs fans that appear snobbish towards McInnes

Podcast I listened to DTS, Liam went on about how bad the football was or words to that effect

We have just finished bottom half and seen another project manager epically fail

What more do you want?
Established proven manager at this level who has always succeeded at Scottish clubs managed

We should be giving him a blank cheque book

There have been multiple posts debunking this poor style of football myth. His Aberdeen stats show good number of goals scored never mind the number of consistent top 2,3,4 finishes in the league.

CapitalGreen
20-05-2024, 08:59 PM
I still find it mad how there are Hibs fans that appear snobbish towards McInnes

Podcast I listened to DTS, Liam went on about how bad the football was or words to that effect

We have just finished bottom half and seen another project manager epically fail

What more do you want?
Established proven manager at this level who has always succeeded at Scottish clubs managed

We should be giving him a blank cheque book

During the years 2013-2020 when DM’s Aberdeen more often than not had the better of us, claiming Aberdeen played awful football was used by many as a comfort blanket.

AlbertK86
20-05-2024, 09:46 PM
We need a couple of years stability and steady progress.

IF we get him he will deliver but he may need a couple of years to sort it.

Our fanbase are notoriously impatient but hopefully they can give him a couple of seasons to put the foundations in place whilst showing some gradual improvement


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JJP
20-05-2024, 10:16 PM
In my opinion he should be our number one target. I just can't see it happening though.

Since452
21-05-2024, 05:49 AM
During the years 2013-2020 when DM’s Aberdeen more often than not had the better of us, claiming Aberdeen played awful football was used by many as a comfort blanket.

Yup. Or claiming Shinnie was a thug when he used to single handedly dominate our midfield time after time.

BILLYHIBS
21-05-2024, 06:01 AM
Yup. Or claiming Shinnie was a thug when he used to single handedly dominate our midfield time after time.

We need a greetin torn faced wee bassa in our midfield like Shinnie circa 2018 was also no a bad Referee IIRC his fellow Ref’s refused to book or send him off

Brizo
21-05-2024, 06:22 AM
We need a couple of years stability and steady progress.

IF we get him he will deliver but he may need a couple of years to sort it.

Our fanbase are notoriously impatient but hopefully they can give him a couple of seasons to put the foundations in place whilst showing some gradual improvement


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What you would get with a McInnes or Robinson is a track record and previous evidence of building teams and achieving relative success in our league.

Our last 3 incumbents didn't have that track record so there was nothing tangible to show they could turn things around. I'd hope, particularly given our recent managerial revolving door, that a proven SPFL manager would get more time to make changes and build a team ,than an unproven one.

Viva_Palmeiras
21-05-2024, 06:24 AM
It’s not just titles several pundits and commentators have said recently McInnes would not take the job because of our structure as he would want control of all football matters.

and Willie Miller questioned/disputed that on Sportsound.

already stated I’m noot as keen on Del reckon the patience would run thin with him as it did Jack. His Aberdeen teams seemed to be “effective” then bottle crashed in clutch games and in the cups.

Viva_Palmeiras
21-05-2024, 06:34 AM
During the years 2013-2020 when DM’s Aberdeen more often than not had the better of us, claiming Aberdeen played awful football was used by many as a comfort blanket.

looks even-Steven to me ? and cups we had the better of them in that period no? It’s more recently they started to get a cup result against us. Sucker punching us.

http://stats.football.co.uk/head_to_head/aberdeen/vs/hibernian/index.shtml

CapitalGreen
21-05-2024, 07:02 AM
looks even-Steven to me ? and cups we had the better of them in that period no? It’s more recently they started to get a cup result against us. Sucker punching us.

http://stats.football.co.uk/head_to_head/aberdeen/vs/hibernian/index.shtml

Were you in a coma during those years? DM’s Aberdeen dominated us. His record against Hibs while Aberdeen manager:

Won - 13
Drew - 4
Lost - 4

We faced them in the cup 3 times, only winning once. Aberdeen finished above us every season and they finished in the top 4 for 7 seasons in a row.

h185forever
21-05-2024, 07:11 AM
Does anyone on here ….actually know if we have asked about McInnes this time ?

Andymac85
21-05-2024, 07:18 AM
I still find it mad how there are Hibs fans that appear snobbish towards McInnes

Podcast I listened to DTS, Liam went on about how bad the football was or words to that effect

We have just finished bottom half and seen another project manager epically fail

What more do you want?
Established proven manager at this level who has always succeeded at Scottish clubs managed

We should be giving him a blank cheque book

I agree with this. People who don’t want DM are crazy. His floor appears to be our ceiling right now. He doesn’t fail in the SPL. we won’t go for him though, we always seem to think we are the smartest guys in the room when picking managers, that we will unearth a gem (they hardly ever are), instead of picking someone who is tried and tested at this level.

Alex Trager
21-05-2024, 07:33 AM
Were you in a coma during those years? DM’s Aberdeen dominated us. His record against Hibs while Aberdeen manager:

Won - 13
Drew - 4
Lost - 4

We faced them in the cup 3 times, only winning once. Aberdeen finished above us every season and they finished in the top 4 for 7 seasons in a row.

That’s a sensational record.

We would NOT be displeased to go up to Pittodrie and come away with scrappy 0-1/1-2 wins whilst also turning them over at ER.

It really is a no brainer. If he doesn’t want to come then fair enough. But hibs have to throw everything they possibly can at getting him.

Unseen work
21-05-2024, 07:39 AM
I still find it mad how there are Hibs fans that appear snobbish towards McInnes

Podcast I listened to DTS, Liam went on about how bad the football was or words to that effect

We have just finished bottom half and seen another project manager epically fail

What more do you want?
Established proven manager at this level who has always succeeded at Scottish clubs managed

We should be giving him a blank cheque book

The poor football argument does my head in and is only used when teams are doing well as a reason to moan.

In the last 20 years how many of that have we played ‘good football’? 5? At the most?

The others have been brutal results and football.

McInness gets this labelled against him just because his teams are hard to beat first and foremost. Look at the players he’s had over the years

Maddison
Christie
Ferguson
McLean
Jack
McGinn
GMS
Hayes
Hedges

They’re all very good ball players and the attackers would score or assist most weeks.

The midfielders and defenders were organised, aggressive and actually liked defending whilst the majority being good or a threat in some way going forward.

He developed players such as Ferguson, Ramsey, Wright etc and is now doing the same again at Killie with Watson.

Give me his record of results, league positions, player recruitment and player development over ours any day of the week.

Pedantic_Hibee
21-05-2024, 07:58 AM
The poor football argument does my head in and is only used when teams are doing well as a reason to moan.

In the last 20 years how many of that have we played ‘good football’? 5? At the most?

The others have been brutal results and football.

McInness gets this labelled against him just because his teams are hard to beat first and foremost. Look at the players he’s had over the years

Maddison
Christie
Ferguson
McLean
Jack
McGinn
GMS
Hayes
Hedges

They’re all very good ball players and the attackers would score or assist most weeks.

The midfielders and defenders were organised, aggressive and actually liked defending whilst the majority being good or a threat in some way going forward.

He developed players such as Ferguson, Ramsey, Wright etc and is now doing the same again at Killie with Watson.

Give me his record of results, league positions, player recruitment and player development over ours any day of the week.

Game. Set. Match.

This time, above all other times, with the state we are in, is the time for Derek McInnes.

superfurryhibby
21-05-2024, 08:05 AM
McInnes had an excellent track record for identifying young talent and bringing them to Aberdeen, then eventually selling them on at considerable profit, Ryan Fraser, McKenna, Cosgrove, Ferguson, McLean spring

to mind. No one can match that record over the past decade in Scottish football.

People saying things like he doesn't need the money etc, as if they know the details of his financial circumstances but having managed St Johnstone, Bristol City, Aberdeen and Kilmarnock, I weuld doubt he'll have been raking in vast fortunes.

The eye bleeding football nonsense....aye , his teams were cynical, but they were well able to play football. WE had some fantastic tussles with them and they could play, despite the gamesmanship etc and my memory is that they often got a result against us, even when we were a pretty decent outfit ourselves.

McInnes is the man with the credentials and if the board give him the money and leeway to buy his players, he will transform the club.

Get him in now Hibs.


Were you in a coma during those years? DM’s Aberdeen dominated us. His record against Hibs while Aberdeen manager:

Won - 13
Drew - 4
Lost - 4

We faced them in the cup 3 times, only winning once. Aberdeen finished above us every season and they finished in the top 4 for 7 seasons in a row.


It's a no brainer really. If McInnes is interested then Hibs should be doing all that they can to get him.

This appointment is a huge marker of the credibility of our owners. The fifth mangerial appointment in five years of ownership. If they don't get this right then the goodwill towards them will end.

BILLYHIBS
21-05-2024, 08:06 AM
Does anyone on here ….actually know if we have asked about McInnes this time ?

Read somewhere we have spoken to his advisers

Might have been on the Private Board :greengrin

blackpoolhibs
21-05-2024, 09:53 AM
The poor football argument does my head in and is only used when teams are doing well as a reason to moan.

In the last 20 years how many of that have we played ‘good football’? 5? At the most?

The others have been brutal results and football.

McInness gets this labelled against him just because his teams are hard to beat first and foremost. Look at the players he’s had over the years

Maddison
Christie
Ferguson
McLean
Jack
McGinn
GMS
Hayes
Hedges

They’re all very good ball players and the attackers would score or assist most weeks.

The midfielders and defenders were organised, aggressive and actually liked defending whilst the majority being good or a threat in some way going forward.

He developed players such as Ferguson, Ramsey, Wright etc and is now doing the same again at Killie with Watson.

Give me his record of results, league positions, player recruitment and player development over ours any day of the week.

Spot on, can someone name me a team who have consistantly finished in the European places who play this mythical Brazillian 70s style, as i cant think of any bar the 2 obvious, but i am willing to be proved wrong. :faf: