Kensell away?

[AugustaHibs]

Anyone else hearing this?

[One Day Soon]

Anyone else hearing this?

I'd be over the moon if that turns out to be true.

[Vault Boy]

Hopefully

[Northernhibee]

Please please please please please

[mcohibs]

The announcement of Monty’s sacking was addressed from the Gordon Family, with no mention of Kensell.

Lee Johnson’s sacking was announced by Kensell himself.

Read into that what you will but I think he’s offski.

[Broxburn Greens]

Hopefully this is true.

If a manager can lose the support as NM did, BK has done exactly the same as our CEO. Don't know a fellow Hibs fan who has a decent word to say about him.

Surely if the now departed manager failed to meet the targets set, so has Kensell and he should suffer the same fate.

[we are hibs]

Hopefully. Can't see it though. Seems to be good at shifting responsibilities onto others.

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[Scottie]

If Carlsberg did Tuesdays (if its true) :thumbsup:

[.Sean.]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[Real Emerald]

You’ve got to wonder how the review is doing if he’s away too. 😁

[TrinityHFC]

He’s done a lot of good overall at the club but we are a football team and he ultimately needs to carry the can for the football side not performing.

The NM appointment just didn’t fit the club or the players we had already bought.

[SickBoy32]

Would be the best thing the club has done in years - praying this is true 👍👍👍

[Hibees1973]

Should have been nowhere near the footballing side at the club. I've heard he is being put on gardening leave.

[mcohibs]

What about our invisible Director of Football?? If anyone can tell me what McDermott was brought in to do, or what he actually does btw I’d be most grateful

[Real Emerald]

Should have been nowhere near the footballing side at the club. I've heard he is being put on gardening leave.

That’ll help with the tan then.

[One Day Soon]

What about our invisible Director of Football?? If anyone can tell me what McDermott was brought in to do, or what he actually does btw I’d be most grateful

You mean the human shield? He, in my opinion, was Kensell's Kevlar body armour. No harm to him at all but I firmly believe that is why Kensell brought him in.

[NC1875]

Never a ceo in a million years. What was his job at Norwich ?

And with his reported salary I’m sure we can attract someone that actually knows what they’re doing.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Never a ceo in a million years. What was his job at Norwich ?

And with his reported salary I’m sure we can attract someone that actually knows what they’re doing.

Chief operation officer (COO). He headed up the non-footballing side of the club, which is exactly what he should be doing here.

[A Hi-Bee]

Anyone else hearing this?

FFS, means I need to ditch ma balaclava.
:greengrin

[Steve-O]

What about our invisible Director of Football?? If anyone can tell me what McDermott was brought in to do, or what he actually does btw I’d be most grateful

Supposed to be in charge of the whole football department, recruitment included.

[Donegal Hibby]

Hopefully , big part of the problem at Hibs 🤞

[TrinityHFC]

Chief operation officer (COO). He headed up the non-footballing side of the club, which is exactly what he should be doing here.

This isn’t right.

You need a CEO who oversees the whole business. What he should have had was good appointments beneath him to manage the football side more effectively but it just isn’t right to say that CEO of a football club shouldn’t oversee football.

The alternative is you have a CEO who is a football person. Not sure that has ever worked anywhere. Motherwell did it once and went bust.

It is a misunderstanding of what a CEO is I think.

[One Day Soon]

Chief operation officer (COO). He headed up the non-footballing side of the club, which is exactly what he should be doing here.

Exactly right.

On the plus side if Ian Gordon has been paying attention then Kensell has - contrary to what he was supposed to be doing - shown IG exactly how NOT to run a football club.

[SHODAN]

Based based based based based

[Vault Boy]

Never a ceo in a million years. What was his job at Norwich ?

And with his reported salary I’m sure we can attract someone that actually knows what they’re doing.

Commercial director then COO.

[Hibernian Verse]

Based based based based based

I'm 32 as well, but I have no idea what this means?

[Paulie Walnuts]

This isn’t right.

You need a CEO who oversees the whole business. What he should have had was good appointments beneath him to manage the football side more effectively but it just isn’t right to say that CEO of a football club shouldn’t oversee football.

The alternative is you have a CEO who is a football person. Not sure that has ever worked anywhere. Motherwell did it once and went bust.

It is a misunderstanding of what a CEO is I think.

I’m not saying the CEO shouldn’t oversee the football side. I’m saying that person shouldn’t be Ben Kensell. He should be in a commercial role.

Ben Kensell used to receive a lot of credit at Norwich for things like organising concerts at Carrow Road. Next thing you know he’s part of the transfer committee at Hibs, deciding what football players we should sign. It should never have happened.

[One Day Soon]

This isn’t right.

You need a CEO who oversees the whole business. What he should have had was good appointments beneath him to manage the football side more effectively but it just isn’t right to say that CEO of a football club shouldn’t oversee football.

The alternative is you have a CEO who is a football person. Not sure that Ja ever worked anywhere. Motherwell did it once and went bust.

It is a misunderstanding of what a CEO is I think.


Correct. Kensell isn't/wasn't that person though. I think the OPs point was that Kensell should never have been CEO, he should have led the commercial side only.

Edit: SNAP

[Hibernian Verse]

I’m not saying the CEO shouldn’t oversee the football side. I’m saying that person shouldn’t be Ben Kensell.

Yeah we're focussing on the wrong stuff here. We can worry about CEO and COO after he's away.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah we're focussing on the wrong stuff here. We can worry about CEO and COO after he's away.

The title is largely irrelevant. He could be called whatever he wants. His job shouldn’t be in football operations, regardless of what it’s titled.

I’d be happy enough to see him stay on in a non football capacity.

[dp00]

In any normal business he would prob have been sacked for the amount of leaks and information he shares with folk

Be good to see the back of him

[SHODAN]

I'm 32 as well, but I have no idea what this means?

Just means good or agreeable. It's internet slang that was a thing ten years ago and that I used to use ironically. Now it's just a habit.

[joe breezy]

I'm 32 as well, but I have no idea what this means?


One of the words I learned when i was buying NFTs and crypto.
It means impressive.
Someone being authentic and being ballsy. Courageous, edgy and cool.

But a lot of the memes would be of the lead in American Psycho saying the words so was never sure that it was really something to aspire to.

[Dashing Bob S]

Kensal has been a serial failure as a CEO in terms of the key of area of hiw the club operates - on the park

[SHODAN]

One of the words I learned when i was buying NFTs and crypto.
It means impressive.
Someone being authentic and being ballsy. Courageous, edgy and cool.

But a lot of the memes would be of the lead in American Psycho saying the words so was never sure that it was really something to aspire to.

It isn't something to aspire to, take it from me.

[Springbank]

In any normal business he would prob have been sacked for the amount of leaks and information he shares with folk

Be good to see the back of him

I tell you what I think on this point

You're in Ben Kensall's position, you're going to get criticised either way, for one of two things.

Either (1) you don't communicate anything to the fans, or
(2) you share too much information with folk

I prefer #2 all day every day

But that's just me

I don't get that criticism here at all

[Northernhibee]

I tell you what I think on this point

You're in Ben Kensall's position, you're going to get criticised either way, for one of two things.

Either (1) you don't communicate anything to the fans, or
(2) you share too much information with folk

I prefer #2 all day every day

But that's just me

I don't get that criticism here at all

The second is worse than the first. The first is frustrating, the second is downright unprofessional IMHO. The job of a CEO will always make you unpopular at times but that comes with the salary.

[7Hero]

Kensal has been a serial failure as a CEO in terms of the key of area of hiw the club operates - on the park

The financial performance of the club has been a failure too ..

Im wondering what else is there other than football performance and "not losing a fortune" which he could also be assessed on .

[Smartie]

One of the words I learned when i was buying NFTs and crypto.
It means impressive.
Someone being authentic and being ballsy. Courageous, edgy and cool.

But a lot of the memes would be of the lead in American Psycho saying the words so was never sure that it was really something to aspire to.

It probably says a lot about how edgy and cool I am that I was trying to figure out what any of this had to do with Gregg Wallace.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The financial performance of the club has been a failure too ..

Im wondering what else is there other than football performance and "not losing a fortune" which he could also be assessed on .

Depends how you look at it.

We’ve increased debt, but also increased revenue. Revenue that in theory, should continue rolling in and will be able to service the debt and then some. Not all debt is bad debt.

He’s also apparently played an instrumental part in getting BKFC involved. Obviously we’re very early doors into that, so who knows how that will go, but if it was to be positive then again, he’s done very well. These are the kind of things he should be focusing on. Not player/manager recruitment etc.

[GloryGlory]

Depends how you look at it.

We’ve increased debt, but also increased revenue. Revenue that in theory, should continue rolling in and will be able to service the debt and then some. Not all debt is bad debt.

He’s also apparently played an instrumental part in getting BKFC involved. Obviously we’re very early doors into that, so who knows how that will go, but if it was to be positive then again, he’s done very well. These are the kind of things he should be focusing on. Not player/manager recruitment etc.

As part of the BK share issue didn't the Gordons agree to convert debt to equity? And isn't some of the debt the Scottish Gov loan during Covid that is on very generous terms?

[CropleyWasGod]

Depends how you look at it.

We’ve increased debt, but also increased revenue. Revenue that in theory, should continue rolling in and will be able to service the debt and then some. Not all debt is bad debt.

He’s also apparently played an instrumental part in getting BKFC involved. Obviously we’re very early doors into that, so who knows how that will go, but if it was to be positive then again, he’s done very well. These are the kind of things he should be focusing on. Not player/manager recruitment etc.

The majority of the debt has been written off, in that it was converted to shares..

That debt was, in your definition, "good debt". It allowed us to increase revenue, as you say. Now that we don't have it, we have a revenue stream that didn't cost us anything to set up. And we don't need to budget for its repayment.

[Paulie Walnuts]

As part of the BK share issue didn't the Gordons agree to convert debt to equity? And isn't some of the debt the Scottish Gov loan during Covid that is on very generous terms?

I did think there was an even more positive spin I could have put on the debt position but if I’m honest, I don’t know the answer so I didn’t mention it :greengrin

I think what you’ve said sounds along the right lines.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The majority of the debt has been written off, in that it was converted to shares..

That debt was, in your definition, "good debt". It allowed us to increase revenue, as you say. Now that we don't have it, we have a revenue stream that didn't cost us anything to set up. And we don't need to budget for its repayment.

Well there you go. As I said in my post, I had a feeling there was an even more positive element to it but i didn’t know what that was so didn’t mention it!

Things like that are why im in no rush to see Kensell leave. I just want to see him removed from dealing with the football related stuff.

[Smartie]

Depends how you look at it.

We’ve increased debt, but also increased revenue. Revenue that in theory, should continue rolling in and will be able to service the debt and then some. Not all debt is bad debt.

He’s also apparently played an instrumental part in getting BKFC involved. Obviously we’re very early doors into that, so who knows how that will go, but if it was to be positive then again, he’s done very well. These are the kind of things he should be focusing on. Not player/manager recruitment etc.

With today's news we may have salvaged next season's season ticket revenue a bit - which may have taken a serious dent otherwise, a dent that would be difficult to make up for with big screens, hospitality etc.

[CropleyWasGod]

Well there you go. As I said in my post, I had a feeling there was an even more positive element to it but i didn’t know what that was so didn’t mention it!

:aok:

In all the negativity surrounding the hierarchy, that's definitely something to put in the plus column.

[7Hero]

Depends how you look at it.

We’ve increased debt, but also increased revenue. Revenue that in theory, should continue rolling in and will be able to service the debt and then some. Not all debt is bad debt.

He’s also apparently played an instrumental part in getting BKFC involved. Obviously we’re very early doors into that, so who knows how that will go, but if it was to be positive then again, he’s done very well. These are the kind of things he should be focusing on. Not player/manager recruitment etc.

Revenue increased only half a million in the year we added new Hospitality and advertising boards. The losses were huge in that year on the P+L. The accounts are a shambles. We are overspending everywhere and underperforming where it really matters.

[MelbourneHibees]

Given there's only a couple of people suggesting this is happening I'm going to assume it isn't. Usually with things this sudden and with Kensell having plenty drinking buddies it would be confirmed by a few by now!

[CropleyWasGod]

Revenue increased only half a million in the year we added new Hospitality and advertising boards. The losses were huge in that year on the P+L. The accounts are a shambles. We are overspending everywhere and underperforming where it really matters.

The full effect of the new facilities will be seen in the current season's figures. As has been said before, turnover will be similar to that of Hearts, and the wages ratio brought under control.

[Iain G]

Can he take his Block 7 mates with him then?

[neil7908]

It's the right move but will it be the Gordon's appointing BKs replacement? Do they have a track record of success that suggests we'll get anyone better...

[we are hibs]

I tell you what I think on this point

You're in Ben Kensall's position, you're going to get criticised either way, for one of two things.

Either (1) you don't communicate anything to the fans, or
(2) you share too much information with folk

I prefer #2 all day every day

But that's just me

I don't get that criticism here at allThere's a way to go about it. Spreading gossip to his mates in hospitality isn't it.


If you're going to be open and transparent then it should be done professionally.

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[Since452]

Wouldn't lose any sleep over this at all.

[One Day Soon]

It's the right move but will it be the Gordon's appointing BKs replacement? Do they have a track record of success that suggests we'll get anyone better...

Ron certainly did across his business history. Do the remaining Gordons, who knows? There's plenty of help available to them out there if they choose to ask for it.

[Steve-O]

It's the right move but will it be the Gordon's appointing BKs replacement? Do they have a track record of success that suggests we'll get anyone better...

Tbf it was Ron who appointed him and I think he was taken in by his smooth operator bants, unfortunately

[GordonHFC]

Be good to get shot of Kensell. Too many BKs at the club.

[SHODAN]

Can he take his Block 7 mates with him then?

One of the best outcomes from this would be that Block 7 lose their protection. :aok:

[Alex Trager]

This isn’t right.

You need a CEO who oversees the whole business. What he should have had was good appointments beneath him to manage the football side more effectively but it just isn’t right to say that CEO of a football club shouldn’t oversee football.

The alternative is you have a CEO who is a football person. Not sure that has ever worked anywhere. Motherwell did it once and went bust.

It is a misunderstanding of what a CEO is I think.

I think you’re arguing a different point.

BK should never have been appointed CEO, which is the op.

You’re right re a CEO’s role though.

[TrinityHFC]

I think you’re arguing a different point.

BK should never have been appointed CEO, which is the op.

You’re right re a CEO’s role though.

This is the same point though. Why shouldn’t he have been appointed? His background was fine for a CEO role.

If you are after a CEO with football experience then that’s a difficult one.

The issue was in those he appointed to directly run football.

[Alex Trager]

This is the same point though. Why shouldn’t he have been appointed? His background was fine for a CEO role.

If you are after a CEO with football experience then that’s a difficult one.

The issue was in those he appointed to directly run football.

Fair enough. His role was the issue then.

[BegbieHSC]

I wish no disrespect to the guy, but a series of bad appointments, poor recruitment and regular financial losses in the accounts makes his position untenable.

[leith lynx]

Heard Ben Kensall,'s wife not too happy with the abuse directed to him on the streets of Stockbridge, good enough reason alone to consider his future.

[DavieRoy]

This interview from February hasn’t aged well!

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/13066214/hibernians-losses-explained-did-performance-cost-the-club

[joe breezy]

Re: Kensell being abused whilst with his wife in Stockbridge

The abuse people get is not on, no matter who they are.
People are doing a job and football fans on the whole have no ****ing idea what the job really entails day to day.

[USA_Hibee]

Heard Ben Kensall,'s wife not too happy with the abuse directed to him on the streets of Stockbridge, good enough reason alone to consider his future.

Understandable and absolutely no excuses for that.

I am sure Sam Nicholson who used to play for Hearts left for similar reasons. Abuse in the street, at restaurants when out with family etc.

Too much of this behavior gets passed off as 'banter' but it's just brutal.

[Springbank]

Re: Kensell being abused whilst with his wife in Stockbridge

The abuse people get is not on, no matter who they are.
People are doing a job and football fans on the whole have no ****ing idea what the job really entails day to day.

Well said

[Trinity Hibee]

Whilst some abuse does go too far do people really expect others to put up with what we’ve seen? Kensell has repeatedly got decisions wrong and it impacts one of the most important things in all our lives. We could all just write politely worded letters I suppose.

If a politician is heckled in the street I don’t see the outrage.

[flash]

Whilst some abuse does go too far do people really expect others to put up with what we’ve seen? Kensell has repeatedly got decisions wrong and it impacts one of the most important things in all our lives. We could all just write politely worded letters I suppose.

If a politician is heckled in the street I don’t see the outrage.

You think it's OK for him to get dogs abuse in the street when he's out with his wife?

[I'm Spartacus]

That’ll help with the tan then.

Post of the day!


Never a ceo in a million years. What was his job at Norwich ?

And with his reported salary I’m sure we can attract someone that actually knows what they’re doing.

Ben K. Do you ever remember the boy that was at the BBC for a job interview and he ends up live on the TV as some mistaken identity talking about some political situation somewhere, but he just ran with it.

That's Ben K. When he saw CEO he assumed it was Chief Envelope Opener.

If Ben K is away then we will 100% be in a better place today than we were yesterday.

[Trinity Hibee]

You think it's OK for him to get dogs abuse in the street when he's out with his wife?

I can understand why folk would say something to him yes.

[Callum_62]

You think it's OK for him to get dogs abuse in the street when he's out with his wife?Lots of folk do it seems

I pay money so I can do what I want is an attitude prevalent across football and it's dark ages thinking imo

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[I'm Spartacus]

You think it's OK for him to get dogs abuse in the street when he's out with his wife?


I can understand why folk would say something to him yes.

Ben K has a wife? I've heard some rubbish on here but that's the most extreme.

Ben K sits down the front at South Queensferry in his fully blacked out and lowered Corsa with a seagul on the roof trying to eat chips.

[flash]

I can understand why folk would say something to him yes.

I can when he is on duty so to speak.

When he is spending time with his family absolutely not.

[flash]

Ben K has a wife? I've heard some rubbish on here but that's the most extreme.

Ben K sits down the front at South Queensferry in his fully blacked out and lowered Corsa with a seagul on the roof trying to eat chips.

Those last two posts.

Who knew Oscar Wilde posted on here?

[Saint Hibee]

Has he actually gone? Or is this still at the unfounded rumour stage?

[Trinity Hibee]

Has he actually gone? Or is this still at the unfounded rumour stage?

Rumour

[joe breezy]

Whilst some abuse does go too far do people really expect others to put up with what we’ve seen? Kensell has repeatedly got decisions wrong and it impacts one of the most important things in all our lives. We could all just write politely worded letters I suppose.

If a politician is heckled in the street I don’t see the outrage.

Rishi Sunak gets security and his job is more public and impactful on people’s livelihoods.

I don’t think it’s the same.

I personally prefer any human not to get abuse in the street when they’re with their family especially.

Kensell apparently got the Black Knights deal over the line. We don’t know what the outcome will be yet but abuse in the street for doing a job is ****ing ridiculous- people should grow up.


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[Centre Hawf]

Ben K has a wife? I've heard some rubbish on here but that's the most extreme.

Ben K sits down the front at South Queensferry in his fully blacked out and lowered Corsa with a seagul on the roof trying to eat chips.

Tell us how you really feel mate.

[leith lynx]

Re: Kensell being abused whilst with his wife in Stockbridge

The abuse people get is not on, no matter who they are.
People are doing a job and football fans on the whole have no ****ing idea what the job really entails day to day. Exactly, well said.

[One Day Soon]

If he leaves in slow motion - silence, gardening leave, slow motion review, eventual departure - this has the potential to become a top .net thread.

[One Day Soon]

Ben K has a wife? I've heard some rubbish on here but that's the most extreme.

Ben K sits down the front at South Queensferry in his fully blacked out and lowered Corsa with a seagul on the roof trying to eat chips.


This is mesmerising. I'm not exactly sure what it means, but its mesmerising.

[leith lynx]

Ben K has a wife? I've heard some rubbish on here but that's the most extreme.

Ben K sits down the front at South Queensferry in his fully blacked out and lowered Corsa with a seagul on the roof trying to eat chips.

Cantona-esque...

[dp00]

Is there a process to follow when sacking a CEO ? Do we need to tell people before it’s released ?

Just wondering as if not I’d have thought it would have been announced if happening


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[One Day Soon]

Cantona-esque...

So many levels.

The author's clever use of ambiguity leaves us pondering whether it's Kensell, the seagull or even the Corsa trying to eat the chips.

[Tambo]

Ben K has a wife? I've heard some rubbish on here but that's the most extreme.

Ben K sits down the front at South Queensferry in his fully blacked out and lowered Corsa with a seagul on the roof trying to eat chips.

That's my spot with a white pudding supper from graziano's

[Donegal Hibby]

Really hoping there's something in this , can't stick him . He's been totally unprofessional and deserves to go .🤞

[Hibees1973]

Ben K has a wife? I've heard some rubbish on here but that's the most extreme.

Ben K sits down the front at South Queensferry in his fully blacked out and lowered Corsa with a seagul on the roof trying to eat chips.

Top post.

[McD]

Is there a process to follow when sacking a CEO ? Do we need to tell people before it’s released ?

Just wondering as if not I’d have thought it would have been announced if happening


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I think this is the case for listed companies, any news that could affect share price needs to be announced to the relevant market ahead of public release. I think :greengrin

[I'm Spartacus]

Is there a process to follow when sacking a CEO ? Do we need to tell people before it’s released ?

Just wondering as if not I’d have thought it would have been announced if happening


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Yeah we do, it seems like we need to ensure Ben's wife is absolutley happy before announcing it.

This 'Poor Ben and his wife' patter, if we were flying then Ben and his wife would be walking the streets 24/7 lapping it all up, because someone has said something he's now some sort of pitied victim.

He's the problem, as many can see from the consistency of my posts, I'm not a fan. And you know what, I'm more 'Poor Jack Ross, Shaun Maloney, Lee Johnson and Nick Montgomery' long before I'm 'Poor Ben K and his wife'. These guys don't become utterly inept coaches and managers in an instant.

(I think we need to tell Companies House)

[mcohibs]

What constitutes abuse in the Stockbridge area? A refusal to doff one’s hat? A disapproving glance?

[I'm Spartacus]

So many levels.

The author's clever use of ambiguity leaves us pondering whether it's Kensell, the seagull or even the Corsa trying to eat the chips.

The seagull is eating the chip, 100% the seagul on the roof, while Ben sits with his seat as low and as far back as it can go. His wife hiding in the back so nobody says anything naughty to her.

[Scouse Hibee]

Only cowards abuse people in the street when they are with their families. Had it done to me many years ago due to the nature of my job whilst pushing my son in his pram with my wife on Princes Street, it’s not nice at all. Came face to face with the abuser a few weeks later, just the two of us and he wasn’t so brave. Whatever we think of BK it’s just not on in my opinion.

[Bridge hibs]

What constitutes abuse in the Stockbridge area? A refusal to doff one’s hat? A disapproving glance?

A tut tut, 10 year jail sentence for that

[jeffers]

What’s his role in player recruitment ? Seen it mentioned more than once so presumably some of those posters know ?

[I'm Spartacus]

What constitutes abuse in the Stockbridge area? A refusal to doff one’s hat? A disapproving glance?

"[Chortle] Yon Benjamin's mother purchased a bashed can from Waitrose [Chortle]"

[McD]

Only cowards abuse people in the street when they are with their families. Had it done to me many years ago due to the nature of my job whilst pushing my son in his pram with my wife on Princes Street, it’s not nice at all. Came face to face with the abuser a few weeks later, just the two of us and he wasn’t so brave. Whatever we think of BK it’s just not on in my opinion.



Whether he’s done his job well, badly, or indifferent, no one should be getting abused in the street with their family. Absolutely not on. He and his family are entitled to their private lives and the ability to go out and about without having someone giving them grief in the street.

[Victor]

What constitutes abuse in the Stockbridge area? A refusal to doff one’s hat? A disapproving glance?

Refusing to lay your cape over a puddle?

[leith lynx]

What constitutes abuse in the Stockbridge area? A refusal to doff one’s hat? A disapproving glance?

Maybe he should move to Morningside.

[Bostonhibby]

The seagull is eating the chip, 100% the seagul on the roof, while Ben sits with his seat as low and as far back as it can go. His wife hiding in the back so nobody says anything naughty to her.I think the wife has always been a bit of a front and he has been sitting on car roofs with seagulls the whole time.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was him that invited great flocks of the things to games at Easter Road then he sprints straight to the car park afterwards to sit on car roofs and eat left over pizza.

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[flash]

What constitutes abuse in the Stockbridge area? A refusal to doff one’s hat? A disapproving glance?

Eating meat I reckon.

[Joe6-2]

Chief operation officer (COO). He headed up the non-footballing side of the club, which is exactly what he should be doing here.

That tells you all you need to know

[Joe6-2]

"[Chortle] Yon Benjamin's mother purchased a bashed can from Waitrose [Chortle]"

A bashed can in Waitrose?

[I'm Spartacus]

I laugh how this 'Ben K being abused in the street with his family watching, wife screaming, guns being shown all by guys on those Sur-Ron bikes wearing balaclavas' story is being played as an amazing cover all of a sudden, now the worst employee at our club, maybe even in my lifetime, who has taken our football club back many many years, is now the victim, because some big bag boy in the playground told him the truth?

He's a complete huddy, out his depth, and should have been launched years ago.

[Baader]

What constitutes abuse in the Stockbridge area? A refusal to doff one’s hat? A disapproving glance?

:faf: Hands in pockets maybe?

[NC1875]

What constitutes abuse in the Stockbridge area? A refusal to doff one’s hat? A disapproving glance?

The barman in Hectors never put an umbrella in his pina colada. His wife’s been furious ever since.

[snedzuk]

Heard Ben Kensall,'s wife not too happy with the abuse directed to him on the streets of Stockbridge, good enough reason alone to consider his future.

Did they criticise his choice of bubble tea.

[TrinityHFC]

That tells you all you need to know

Yeah, tells you he was qualified to move into a CEO role at a football club. What football related abilities are you expecting a CEO to have?

Agree he needs to be responsible but due to picking people to run the football sure that didn’t work, not because he wasn’t qualified to do it himself.

[One Day Soon]

What constitutes abuse in the Stockbridge area? A refusal to doff one’s hat? A disapproving glance?

Attempting to charge anything more than tuppence ha'penny for the services of sending a scruffy scurvy-ridden orphan up your chimney with a brush and pan.

Look after the tuppence ha'pennies and the £300,000 pounds a year will look after themselves I say.

[jakeshibs]

I laugh how this 'Ben K being abused in the street with his family watching, wife screaming, guns being shown all by guys on those Sur-Ron bikes wearing balaclavas' story is being played as an amazing cover all of a sudden, now the worst employee at our club, maybe even in my lifetime, who has taken our football club back many many years, is now the victim, because some big bag boy in the playground told him the truth?

He's a complete huddy, out his depth, and should have been launched years ago.

imposters on the park are alot worse

[I'm Spartacus]

imposters on the park are alot worse

The imposters on the park and being allowed to imposter on the park because of the imposter at the top of the imposter tree (and his never menioned before sensitive to reality wife).

[Donegal Hibby]

Only cowards abuse people in the street when they are with their families. Had it done to me many years ago due to the nature of my job whilst pushing my son in his pram with my wife on Princes Street, it’s not nice at all. Came face to face with the abuser a few weeks later, just the two of us and he wasn’t so brave. Whatever we think of BK it’s just not on in my opinion.

I agree with this .

[flash]

The imposters on the park and being allowed to imposter on the park because of the imposter at the top of the imposter tree (and his never menioned before sensitive to reality wife).

You are starting to come over as someone with a specific, personal beef with Kensell.

[McD]

I laugh how this 'Ben K being abused in the street with his family watching, wife screaming, guns being shown all by guys on those Sur-Ron bikes wearing balaclavas' story is being played as an amazing cover all of a sudden, now the worst employee at our club, maybe even in my lifetime, who has taken our football club back many many years, is now the victim, because some big bag boy in the playground told him the truth?

He's a complete huddy, out his depth, and should have been launched years ago.



Worse than calderwood? Butcher?

[I'm Spartacus]

You are starting to come over as someone with a specific, personal beef with Kensell.

I absolutly do have beef wth Ben K. Look at the managers we have ploughed through, all under his watch, many fans have turned on the managers and players, while he has sat in the background hiding, then there was the Rocky Bushiri contract situation, what a shambles, then there's the review, and now the review of the review.

I'm so angry that he's the problem in all this and we are carrying on as if he's going to be the soloution. It's need the Scooby Doo Team to peel the mask off the real villan.

[leith lynx]

I laugh how this 'Ben K being abused in the street with his family watching, wife screaming, guns being shown all by guys on those Sur-Ron bikes wearing balaclavas' story is being played as an amazing cover all of a sudden, now the worst employee at our club, maybe even in my lifetime, who has taken our football club back many many years, is now the victim, because some big bag boy in the playground told him the truth?

He's a complete huddy, out his depth, and should have been launched years ago.

Would I be right in saying you don't like the guy?

[Pretty Boy]

I'm really no fan of Kensell.

Any limited dealings I had with him left me cold and more generally the mess he is overseeing of the football side of the business at Hibs isn't endearing him to me either.

There really is no justification for abusing the guy in the street when he is with his family. I make mistakes in my work and I daresay I rub people up the wrong way not infrequently. Neither justify anyone accosting me in the street and the same should apply to everyone, regardless of whether they work in football or not.

[flash]

I'm really no fan of Kensell.

Any limited dealings I had with him left me cold and more generally the mess he is overseeing of the football side of the business at Hibs isn't endearing him to me either.

There really is no justification for abusing the guy in the street when he is with his family. I make mistakes in my work and I daresay I rub people up the wrong way not infrequently. Neither justify anyone accosting me in the street and the same should apply to everyone, regardless of whether they work in football or not.

At least this thread had outed the culprit if nothing else......:wink:

[Phil MaGlass]

Hes f,n lucky he doesnae live in Holland he would probably have been visited by around 20 hardcore and his door kicked in.Just like what shood happen to the so called football players we have. The lot if them shood huv had a visit during training from an angry mob. Pity we dont get angry enough for this. Players need a kick up their erses and sacked for not trying against Aberdeen.

[flash]

Hes f,n lucky he doesnae live in Holland he would probably have been visited by around 20 hardcore and his door kicked in.Just like what shood happen to the so called football players we have. The lot if them shood huv had a visit during training from an angry mob. Pity we dont get angry enough for this. Players need a kick up their erses and sacked for not trying against Aberdeen.

Be a bit of a commute to East Mains every morning.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Hes f,n lucky he doesnae live in Holland he would probably have been visited by around 20 hardcore and his door kicked in.Just like what shood happen to the so called football players we have. The lot if them shood huv had a visit during training from an angry mob. Pity we dont get angry enough for this. Players need a kick up their erses and sacked for not trying against Aberdeen.

You Sir, quite frankly, are terrifying. I’m not answering the door for the rest of the day.

[Glory Lurker]

Some of the posts on this thread are really poor form. Nobody deserves hassle in the street, from politicians downwards.

[J-C]

I absolutly do have beef wth Ben K. Look at the managers we have ploughed through, all under his watch, many fans have turned on the managers and players, while he has sat in the background hiding, then there was the Rocky Bushiri contract situation, what a shambles, then there's the review, and now the review of the review.

I'm so angry that he's the problem in all this and we are carrying on as if he's going to be the soloution. It's need the Scooby Doo Team to peel the mask off the real villan.

Was it you in Stockbridge, a strange hatred for the guy. When did portions of our support become so toxic?

[Since452]

I think Ron Gordon may have already have sacked Kensell by now. We've been so poor on the park since he arrived barring some good moments under Lee Johnson. Would a highly successful businessman like Ron have accepted this level of underachievement? He was very ruthless with Ross and Maloney.

[Hibbyradge]

Some of the posts on this thread are really poor form. Nobody deserves hassle in the street, from politicians upwards.

Ftfy

[Hibbyradge]

I think Ron Gordon may have already have sacked Kensell by now. We've been so poor on the park since he arrived barring some good moments under Lee Johnson. Would a highly successful businessman like Ron have accepted this level of underachievement? He was very ruthless with Ross and Maloney.

Ron Gordon appointed Ross, Maloney and Johnson.

He also sacked 2 of them, admitting that he'd made a mistake parting ways with Ross.

[Billy Whizz]

Ron Gordon appointed Ross, Maloney and Johnson.

He also sacked 2 of them, admitting that he'd made a mistake parting ways with Ross.

I thought it was LD and GM, and Ron rubber stamped it

[Hibbyradge]

I thought it was LD and GM, and Ron rubber stamped it

Jack Ross? Possibly, he definitely sacked him though, and he was behind the Maloney and Johnson appointments.

[WeeRussell]

Ftfy

Nice once centurion, like it.

[Ronniekirk]

Was Hevnot instrumental in helping get the Black Knights deal through and finalised ? And by all accounts he has brought more income into the club through sponsorship deals etc than before
If he solely deal with that side of things why not keep him
Have never met the guy but read lots of stories about him saying too much to fans about stuff going on at the club
Which if true is t something you would expect from someone in that position
is the suggestion he has to much influence over Ian Gordon and therefore is a major part of the problem re direction club has taken which clearly hasn’t worked

[SON OF PADDY]

Only cowards abuse people in the street when they are with their families. Had it done to me many years ago due to the nature of my job whilst pushing my son in his pram with my wife on Princes Street, it’s not nice at all. Came face to face with the abuser a few weeks later, just the two of us and he wasn’t so brave. Whatever we think of BK it’s just not on in my opinion.


Your spot on mate !

[H18 SFR]

Some of the screenshots doing the rounds are deeply worrying if it turns out to be true.

[Hibs4185]

Some of the screenshots doing the rounds are deeply worrying if it turns out to be true.

Any gossip for us mere mortals?

[Allant1981]

Any gossip for us mere mortals?

I'd suggest searching his name on twitter, the post would get deleted on here as its only a rumour

[Lago]

Heard Ben Kensall,'s wife not too happy with the abuse directed to him on the streets of Stockbridge, good enough reason alone to consider his future.
If that's happening it's well and truly out of order, the people doing it were probably bullies at school.

[I'm Spartacus]

I'd suggest searching his name on twitter, the post would get deleted on here as its only a rumour

Ok, I done that. A few findings, one made me face-palm, another made me laugh, the third made me double face-palm. I'll let you decide!

Tam McManus "Ben Kensell is one more sacking away from the sack himself"

The Hibs are Here: "My wheelchair wheels got stuck in a pothole at the Gyle, Ben Kensell came over and asked me if I could manage. Fk that, I'm still hiding in the bogs"

Then there is the third thing which I think folk are referring to.

[H18 SFR]

Any gossip for us mere mortals?

Yes, see the next post. I’m not wanting a talking too from admin.

I really hope it isn’t true.

[Greencore]

Oh dear, take a deep breath and think before you hit that keyboard.

Not like he's wrong

[Hibiza]

An opportune time for Ben to leave.

[I'm Spartacus]

I tell you, me and a few others are taking a little grief about our thoughts on Ben K............ type his name into Twitter and the comments here are PG compared to that platform.

[JimBHibees]

Seems very odd the grief this guy gets. Just doing his job

[JimBHibees]

Whilst some abuse does go too far do people really expect others to put up with what we’ve seen? Kensell has repeatedly got decisions wrong and it impacts one of the most important things in all our lives. We could all just write politely worded letters I suppose.

If a politician is heckled in the street I don’t see the outrage.

Utterly bizarre post he is just doing a job

[JimBHibees]

Post of the day!



Ben K. Do you ever remember the boy that was at the BBC for a job interview and he ends up live on the TV as some mistaken identity talking about some political situation somewhere, but he just ran with it.

That's Ben K. When he saw CEO he assumed it was Chief Envelope Opener.

If Ben K is away then we will 100% be in a better place today than we were yesterday.

You any idea what he does?

[Hibbyradge]

Seems very odd the grief this guy gets. Just doing his job

I agree.

He's getting blamed for the last 3 managerial appointments, but 2 of them were Ron Gordon's and Montgomery was headhunted by Brian McDermott.

[CraigHibee]

Some of the posts on this thread are really poor form. Nobody deserves hassle in the street, from politicians downwards.

:agree: absolutely, no need for it

[dp00]

The stories on twitter are wild … if true would explain a lot [emoji85][emoji85][emoji85]

[Hibernian Verse]

The stories on twitter are wild … if true would explain a lot [emoji85][emoji85][emoji85]

If it’s true he won’t survive it anyway. Bad boy.

[Chorley Hibee]

The stories on twitter are wild … if true would explain a lot [emoji85][emoji85][emoji85]

Yep, if even an ounce of it is true then it shows what a ****ing unprofessional ****show it's been behind the scenes for quite a while.

[Donegal Hibby]

Seems very odd the grief this guy gets. Just doing his job

My gripe with him Jim was what was said on here about his tongue loosening over alcohol on telling fans before / after a game about the managers situation when he's probably under immense pressure anyhow in trying to save his job .

LJ was one though it was supposedly to have happened with Maloney too .

He seems to have done a decent job off the park though between that and the block 7 stuff I think the guys handled things quite badly if true and been unprofessional.

Don't think him and his family should be given any forms of abuse and I would never condone it though I would like to see him go all the same .

[CropleyWasGod]

This is getting away from the issue of whether or not he is the right man to be running our club.

Could t give a toss if his wife is pissed off cause someone maybe said something she didn’t like. That doesn’t equate to abuse.

She can bugger off back down south too.

His wife is not fair game for any of this.

[.Sean.]

Yep, if even an ounce of it is true then it shows what a ****ing unprofessional ****show it's been behind the scenes for quite a while.
Yep, outrageous and if it turns out to be true, I’ll be disappointed if he’s ‘left’ and not been sacked.

[JohnM1875]

All the abuse isn't for me. You can't treat someone (or their wife) like **** just because, in your eyes, they've done a poor job at the team you support.

You wouldn't like it if someone was abusive to your family, so don't do it back to other folk. Really simple stuff.

[H18 SFR]

Holy moly, more screenshots on twitter, wasn’t just one person but a couple of others as well.

[CraigHibee]

Holy moly, more screenshots on twitter, wasn’t just one person but a couple of others as well.

can't see any?

[CraigHibee]

All the abuse isn't for me. You can't treat someone (or their wife) like **** just because, in your eyes, they've done a poor job at the team you support.

You wouldn't like it if someone was abusive to your family, so don't do it back to other folk. Really simple stuff.

100% correct, if the shoe was on the other foot i'm quite sure folk wouldn't be happy

[H18 SFR]

can't see any?

Defo there, just seen a screen shot of one on what’s app group.

[marinello59]

Just a gentle reminder, please don't go posting any unsubstantiated rumours or speculation on here.
Thanks.

[ancient hibee]

Just a gentle reminder, please don't go posting any unsubstantiated rumours or speculation on here.
Thanks.


That’ll be a new first:greengrin.

[marinello59]

That’ll be a new first:greengrin.

:greengrin

OK....I have should have added about people's personal life.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Sometimes i hate football...I know things are bad but wow. Ben Kensell is father and a husband and also a human. Sad sad stuff.

[Gus]

I laugh how this 'Ben K being abused in the street with his family watching, wife screaming, guns being shown all by guys on those Sur-Ron bikes wearing balaclavas' story is being played as an amazing cover all of a sudden, now the worst employee at our club, maybe even in my lifetime, who has taken our football club back many many years, is now the victim, because some big bag boy in the playground told him the truth?

He's a complete huddy, out his depth, and should have been launched years ago.

Possibly the worst employee in your time supporting the club…..you not supported Hibs for long ;-)

[Pretty Boy]

Interesting that is 2 major announcements from the club today with no mention of the CEO in either. In all the time STF owned the club I struggle to think of a single football appointment or announcement referencing the 'Farmer Family'. It was always Rod Petrie or whoever was in an executive position at the time.

Either he is distancing himself from the decisions as some form of self preservation or as a demonstration he is removed from football operations or something is afoot regarding his future.

[GreenCastle]

Interesting that is 2 major announcements from the club today with no mention of the CEO in either. In all the time STF owned the club I struggle to think of a single football appointment or announcement referencing the 'Farmer Family'. It was always Rod Petrie or whoever was in an executive position at the time.

Either he is distancing himself from the decisions as some form of self preservation or as a demonstration he is removed from football operations or something is afoot regarding his future.

Thought the exact same - quite telling really.

Staying out firing line.

Be interesting to see who is at the next press conferences for new announcements.

[I'm Spartacus]

Thought the exact same - quite telling really.

Agreed. I would expect any big business decision announcement to be signed by the CEO, we do tend to hide behind group signed off statements. IMO the CEO shoul dbe the name at the bottom of these "I'm in charge and leading here".


No offence meant if his wife reads this, hope you are ok HUN.

[Hibernia&Alba]

So has he left or not?

[jeffers]

Interesting that is 2 major announcements from the club today with no mention of the CEO in either. In all the time STF owned the club I struggle to think of a single football appointment or announcement referencing the 'Farmer Family'. It was always Rod Petrie or whoever was in an executive position at the time.

Either he is distancing himself from the decisions as some form of self preservation or as a demonstration he is removed from football operations or something is afoot regarding his future.

He drafted the last two statements apparently so going nowhere.

[marinello59]

He drafted the last two statements apparently so going nowhere.

That’s a pity.

[Donegal Hibby]

Surely this isn't true ? .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/outraged-michael-stewart-claims-hibs-29174005

[staunchhibby]

If true we should e- mail Kensall and show our displeasure at the way he has treated two great hibs who have gave there all

[NYHibby]

He drafted the last two statements apparently so going nowhere.

While maybe unlikely, it is possible that he and the club come to an arrangement where he works part of the notice period his contract requires rather than us pay him in lieu of the full notice period. Other than being less publicly visible, we probably couldn’t tell if this was happening.

He is not completely useless. He can sell sponsorships for next season and do other day to day tasks that don’t affect the team on the pitch rather than pay him in lieu of notice and get nothing from him.

[HendoDelivered]

Surely this isn't true ? .
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/outraged-michael-stewart-claims-hibs-29174005

Looks like it’s made its way into the media/main forum from the pm board then.

[Donegal Hibby]

Looks like it’s made its way into the media/main forum from the pm board then.

It's just seems to be one thing after another sadly ☹️

[Hiber-nation]

Looks like it’s made its way into the media/main forum from the pm board then.

Mikey Stewart said it yesterday before I saw it on here.

[Jay]

He drafted the last two statements apparently so going nowhere.

How do you know that?

[staunchhibby]

Does any person have kensells e-mail

[Northernhibee]

Looks like it’s made its way into the media/main forum from the pm board then.

Think Michael Stewart put it out on his Instagram first.

[HendoDelivered]

Never knew that guys, cheers.

[Tambo]

Does any person have kensells e-mail

Only one is the one listed online [email protected]

I did email him the night before Monty was sacked and two more since then, doubt he's even reading them or bothered.

[Forza Fred]

Noticed on Hibs Tv last night that Malky Mackay was sitting next to Kit Gordon at the game.

Couldn’t see Kensell there.

Maybe he was, but I couldn’t see him in the 10 second tv grab.

[marinello59]

Noticed on Hibs Tv last night that Malky Mackay was sitting next to Kit Gordon at the game.

Couldn’t see Kensell there.

Maybe he was, but I couldn’t see him in the 10 second tv grab.

He was sat next to Mackay before kick off.

[Forza Fred]

He was sat next to Mackay before kick off.

He must have nipped off the dunny when the camera panned on the Directors’ box😂

[WellingtonHibby]

He must have nipped off the dunny when the camera panned on the Directors’ box😂

Bump

[flash]

Hopefully part of the restructuring is that he sticks to what he is good at.

[Trinity Hibee]

Hopefully part of the restructuring is that he sticks to what he is good at.

You have to assume it will be now MM is in post. If there isn’t the self awareness now to stay out of football matters then god help him.

[we are hibs]

You have to assume it will be now MM is in post. If there isn’t the self awareness now to stay out of football matters then god help him.I'd suggest keeping Ian Gordon out of football matters will be a bigger issue than Kensell

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[jeffers]

You have to assume it will be now MM is in post. If there isn’t the self awareness now to stay out of football matters then god help him.

What does staying out of footballing matters actually mean ?

[Trinity Hibee]

What does staying out of footballing matters actually mean ?

Not being involved in transfers or recruiting of managers the main ones

[jeffers]

Not being involved in transfers or recruiting of managers the main ones

What is his role in transfers though ? I thought it was the contract side of things which I’d expect a CEO to oversee. Didn’t McDermott lead the recruitment of Monty ? And MM has been tasked with finding the new manager…..

[CapitalGreen]

Not being involved in transfers or recruiting of managers the main ones

When was the last time he was involved in either?

[Hibees1973]

Gutted to see him there last night.

[Ronniekirk]

Mikey Stewart said on radio yesterday he didn’t think Mckays appointment was driven by Ben or Gordon but didn’t elaborate
On the other hand someone else told me Ben and Malky were very good friends Dors anyone know if anyone else was interviewed for this post ? Or was he a shoe in
Mikey Steward thought he would be a good appointment

[Bristolhibby]

I'd suggest keeping Ian Gordon out of football matters will be a bigger issue than Kensell

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Not scouting and buying players when you know nothing about football but have attended a course on “talent identification”.

That would be my first guess.

J

[jacomo]

What about our invisible Director of Football?? If anyone can tell me what McDermott was brought in to do, or what he actually does btw I’d be most grateful


Surely he will be away soon?

We’ve got Mackay as Sporting Director, responsible for ‘all football operations’, plus a Director of Football who is presumably doing a similar role but with more focus on recruitment?

Meanwhile it seems there are roles at the club carrying a bit workload and responsibility for very low salaries.

[Smartie]

Mikey Stewart said on radio yesterday he didn’t think Mckays appointment was driven by Ben or Gordon but didn’t elaborate
On the other hand someone else told me Ben and Malky were very good friends Dors anyone know if anyone else was interviewed for this post ? Or was he a shoe in
Mikey Steward thought he would be a good appointment

Mikey has made indirect and occasionally very direct comments over the course of the season that he rated MacKay and that he thought he’d be a good fit for us.

I can’t remember the exact context but I’m sure it could easily be dismissed as a journo bigging up one of his pals for a job… when there’s also probably a reasonable argument that can be made for an experienced but unexotic character getting a job over an exotic Hibs experiment.

[Lago]

Surely he will be away soon?

We’ve got Mackay as Sporting Director, responsible for ‘all football operations’, plus a Director of Football who is presumably doing a similar role but with more focus on recruitment?

Meanwhile it seems there are roles at the club carrying a bit workload and responsibility for very low salaries.
I think he will, listening to Mackay when he was being interviewed he dodged around the question about BM

[overdrive]

I think he will, listening to Mackay when he was being interviewed he dodged around the question about BM

Sounded to me as if they were negotiating severance with BMcD and the "move to a focus on recruitment" is the line until that is finalised and perhaps a back up if severance can't be agreed.

[Lago]

Sounded to me as if they were negotiating severance with BMcD and the "move to a focus on recruitment" is the line until that is finalised and perhaps a back up if severance can't be agreed.
Agree, no commitment to him being here coming season.

[Mike Berry]

I'd suggest keeping Ian Gordon out of football matters will be a bigger issue than Kensell

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[Hibees1973]

I'd suggest keeping Ian Gordon out of football matters will be a bigger issue than Kensell

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Do we trust MacKay not to send anymore racist, sexist, misogynist texts.

Do we trust Ian Gordon to keep his nose out of recruitment, given he appointed himself Head of Recruitment in the past.

Do we trust Kensell to remain confined to the highlighter pens and powerpoint presentations in a Marketing role.

All big questions. If the answer is yes to all of them, then we may make some progress. However, given the arrogance all have shown in the past I very much doubt it.

[tamig]

Do we trust MacKay not to send anymore racist, sexist, misogynist texts.

Do we trust Ian Gordon to keep his nose out of recruitment, given he appointed himself Head of Recruitment in the past.

Do we trust Kensell to remain confined to the highlighter pens and powerpoint presentations in a Marketing role.

All big questions. If the answer is yes to all of them, then we may make some progress. However, given the arrogance all have shown in the past I very much doubt it.
When did Ian Gordon appoint himself as Head of Recruitment? Don’t think that’s at all accurate.

[ElginHibee]

When did Ian Gordon appoint himself as Head of Recruitment? Don’t think that’s at all accurate.

Lets not allow that to get in the way of a point. :greengrin If I remember correctly his Dad appointed him to that role.

[tamig]

Lets not allow that to get in the way of a point. :greengrin If I remember correctly his Dad appointed him to that role.

Correct. But people shouldn’t be spouting nonsense to try and back their point.

[Edinburgh Green]

He was sat next to Mackay before kick off.

Yeah sat next to him the whole game.

[Mcbizz1998]

Mikey Stewart said on radio yesterday he didn’t think Mckays appointment was driven by Ben or Gordon but didn’t elaborate
On the other hand someone else told me Ben and Malky were very good friends Dors anyone know if anyone else was interviewed for this post ? Or was he a shoe in
Mikey Steward thought he would be a good appointment

I’ve heard it was driven by Malcolm McPherson. Apparently he wanted him in as manager before Monty as well.

[ElginHibee]

Correct. But people shouldn’t be spouting nonsense to try and back their point.

Oh I wasn't disagreeing, the nepotism of that appointment was bad enough. Besides, they've all made enough mistakes without inventing crap to beat them with.

[we are hibs]

Just watched the Hibs observer live broadcast from earlier. Sounds like the board are backing Kensell.




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[.Sean.]

Well he’ll not be going anywhere any time soon with the new article in the Hibs Observer

[Springbank]

Hopefully part of the restructuring is that he sticks to what he is good at.

This to me is a very fair comment

BK has overseen a lot of good stuff off the park

The improvements we need are on the park - which is,someone else's job (or should be)

Leaving Ben Kensall to oversee the non football side

[TrinityHFC]

This to me is a very fair comment

BK has overseen a lot of good stuff off the park

The improvements we need are on the park - which is,someone else's job (or should be)

Leaving Ben Kensall to oversee the non football side

He's CEO - he will oversee everything. He just has someone more competent inn the building to help run that area on a day to day basis.

[ChuckNor]

Article here, well worth a read https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/24325658.hibs-board-backs-kensell---mackay-can-bring/

Big questions emerge from this article. Some strange responses from Malcolm. He states that football is the main priority and effectively admits the club has failed on this front, but it’s okay because Ben puts in a lot of work and has (in his and the rest of the board’s view) succeeded in commercial areas. He also says that Ben is good at maths and that the board are frustrated at fans for not seeing the good work he has done.

Sorry Malcolm, we don’t see it because there’s nothing we can point to and say “that’s a success”. The financial results last year were appalling and a promise that the next ones will be better won’t cut it. The fact we now have two employees on high wages running the football operation instead of Ben brings into question his role as CEO of a FOOTBALL CLUB. If he can’t do the football bit then why do we continue to pay him a top CEO salary? Things need to change but our board don’t see it.

Fans reps. Is this something you plan on highlighting?

[we are hibs]

"Ben has done a phenomenal job with this football club and I sometimes wonder how people can't see that," McPherson says.


Aye, whatever.

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[Ozyhibby]

Is McDermott still at Hibs? Why do we need him and Mackay if he is?


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[Trinity Hibee]

Article here, well worth a read https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/interviews/24325658.hibs-board-backs-kensell---mackay-can-bring/

Big questions emerge from this article. Some strange responses from Malcolm. He states that football is the main priority and effectively admits the club has failed on this front, but it’s okay because Ben puts in a lot of work and has (in his and the rest of the board’s view) succeeded in commercial areas. He also says that Ben is good at maths and that the board are frustrated at fans for not seeing the good work he has done.

Sorry Malcolm, we don’t see it because there’s nothing we can point to and say “that’s a success”. The financial results last year were appalling and a promise that the next ones will be better won’t cut it. The fact we now have two employees on high wages running the football operation instead of Ben brings into question his role as CEO of a FOOTBALL CLUB. If he can’t do the football bit then why do we continue to pay him a top CEO salary? Things need to change but our board don’t see it.

Fans reps. Is this something you plan on highlighting?

Very strange comments from someone on the board particularly from someone who claims to be a fan. They know how to piss off a fan base anyway

[Hibees1973]

Very strange comments from someone on the board particularly from someone who claims to be a fan. They know how to piss off a fan base anyway

Indeed.

From what I've read from the statement and the Observer article, they are all protecting each other.

The fact that there has been little acknowledgement that the last three managers were all ridiculous appointments, who all failed and all were appointed by people who are still here is deeply worrying.

Fills me with very little hope for the future with these people all still in situ.

We need a fresh start from the top, this isn't it sadly.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Indeed.

From what I've read from the statement and the Observer article, they are all protecting each other.

The fact that there has been little acknowledgement that the last three managers were all ridiculous appointments, who all failed and all were appointed by people who are still here is deeply worrying.

Fills me with very little hope for the future with these people all still in situ.

We need a fresh start from the top, this isn't it sadly.

To be fair, he acknowledges in that article that Montgomery should never have been appointed. You’ve got to wonder what took them so long though when you’ve got the board now saying they should never have appointed him in the first place.

It’s not a great interview. MM doesn’t come out of particularly well imo.

[B.H.F.C]

"Ben has done a phenomenal job with this football club and I sometimes wonder how people can't see that," McPherson says.


Aye, whatever.

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I can’t see how the chairman can’t see that fans, maybe just, base their opinion on what they see on the park. We’re generally no that interested in hospitality lounges or sponsorship deals.

[AlbertK86]

"Ben has done a phenomenal job with this football club and I sometimes wonder how people can't see that," McPherson says.


Aye, whatever.

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My reading of that bit was that he was referring to the commercial side and the fact he was the one to get Bill Foley and the Black Knights on board - he has done a good job there.


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[Onion]

"Ben has done a phenomenal job with this football club and I sometimes wonder how people can't see that," McPherson says.


Aye, whatever.

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Problem with this statement. Making money, doing deals, renovating the stadium, pulling in investment are simply a means to an end - not an end in itself. Make all the money you like, but if cannot deploy it effectively on the park, it counts for nothing. No football fan brags about the commercial operation of their clubs. It's ALL about the football and in that respect it's a 2/10 for effort.

[ChuckNor]

It’s a good article and gives us fans an insight as to the board’s thinking. I think a fair assessment is they are protecting themselves here. Far too many incompetent decisions made for Kendall to survive. Two people running the most important part of the business, football, because he can’t do it. Insane that he’s still going to walk away with a full salary.

[Springbank]

Problem with this statement. Making money, doing deals, renovating the stadium, pulling in investment are simply a means to an end - not an end in itself. Make all the money you like, but if cannot deploy it effectively on the park, it counts for nothing. No football fan brags about the commercial operation of their clubs. It's ALL about the football and in that respect it's a 2/10 for effort.

Is it facilitating & funding the product on the park?

[Jones28]

Problem with this statement. Making money, doing deals, renovating the stadium, pulling in investment are simply a means to an end - not an end in itself. Make all the money you like, but if cannot deploy it effectively on the park, it counts for nothing. No football fan brags about the commercial operation of their clubs. It's ALL about the football and in that respect it's a 2/10 for effort.

It’s not a 2/10 for effort, it’s maybe a 4/10 for execution surely?

All the things you mention are a means to an end, you’re right, but without them we don’t compete on the pitch.

[Chorley Hibee]

McPherson seems quite an arrogant individual, and equally removed from reality to boot.

Some of his previous responses to fan complaints have also stunk of 'pay your money and shut up' as well.

They're putting an awful lot of weight on these next financial accounts too. I wonder what excuses they have up their sleeve when they don't reflect reality either.

Very worried about where we are going.

[GreenCastle]

Think the next 12 months will be really telling.

4th manager
2nd sporting director / DOF
Finances

This time next year we will be either saying well done Hibs you fixed the mess or it will be time for some even bigger changes.

This summer is one of the most important for a long time on and off the pitch to get everyone moving back in same direction and making sure we finish much higher up league table.

[tamig]

Is it facilitating & funding the product on the park?

Of course it is. The money has been spent - more than we’ve spent before. Its just been spent poorly. Squandered you could say.

[Springbank]

There is a reading of the situation where the building blocks are largely in place off the pitch,
and the Board took action last week to make changes in the on-field football.

NM was a real disappointment
He's gone
Director of football is in
And these are probably the 2 of the 3 things that needed to happen last week ie before the transfer window

We need a McInnes type in the dugout to set proper Standards as the key piece of the jigsaw now

[Onion]

Is it facilitating & funding the product on the park?

Of course it is. The extra revenue should improve decision-making, performance and opportunities for the club. We see none of that on the park.

[Onion]

Think the next 12 months will be really telling.

4th manager
2nd sporting director / DOF
Finances

This time next year we will be either saying well done Hibs you fixed the mess or it will be time for some even bigger changes.

This summer is one of the most important for a long time on and off the pitch to get everyone moving back in same direction and making sure we finish much higher up league table.

Broken clock is right twice a day, so if Hibs appoint enough managers eventually they should get one right. Hopefully the next one.