David Gray

[04Sauzee]

Does that not contradict your post that he would re-sign Stevenson and Hanlon?

The point I think that was made would be he wouldn't keep players around just in case they came good. You know what you are getting with Hanlon and Stevenson.

[hibee_girl]

The point I think that was made would be he wouldn't keep players around just in case they came good. You know what you are getting with Hanlon and Stevenson.

:agree:

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

I don't see it being Davie Gray tbh. I think we'll go for a more experienced manager. I just don't see us going for someone who has less than a dozen games in charge as an interim manager.

Davie Gray obviously has ambitions to become a manager going by his latest interview. I can see him leaving Hibs soon to manage a lower league side.

[B.H.F.C]

This is my worry, that a full and frank rebuild won’t happen. Maybe a clean slate for McKirdy, give Jair a chance to see what he can do. Maybe tweak who plays further forward in terms of JDH and Newall. We’ve not seen that much of Wollacott, do we stick with him and give him the season to see if he’s got it to be number one. Rocky has some good moments at times, so we could try and play him and Hanlon together to tighten things up…

You get my point.

I think this is a valid point in here.

I definitely think he’d get Hanlon back in, less sure about Lewis. I’m pretty sure he’s known to be a big fan of a Josh Campbell as well. Not so sure about the likes of McKirdy, Jair etc. I’d like to think he’s seen enough of them and it might be a manager coming in totally fresh that would be dishing out more chances to the likes of them.

[Lago]

Surely if David Gray is a contender then Ian Murray ticks even more boxes.

[J-C]

It would certainly be consistent for Hibs to appoint someone clearly not the best candidate, to take a risk, to go leftfield

We have people on here constantly telling us we need someone with a knowledge of Scottish football and someone who gets what the club is all about, we have at our club a coach who ticks both those boxes and we have folk not wanting him in case it ruins his rep if he then gets sacked. I'm pretty sure Gray will know what he's letting himself in for if he gets offered and takes the gig, no matter what may happen, than day in 2016 will always make him a legend, no matter what.

[Hibees1973]

I don't see it being David Gray as manager.

With the Black Knights involved at Hibs and now we have MacKay what will be the method in the new appointment. Will it be purely down to the Black Knights, which will make no sense in MacKay being here or will it be it a MacKay appointment without using the expertise of the Black Knights, which was one of the main reasons for them being involved. Or will it be an appointment by committee involving both and unfortunately Ian Gordon & Kensell sticking their nose in again.

It is a real malaise now at the club.

[K-Zazu]

I agree with this. If not now for Gray then when?

Plus I think he’d bring Hanlon and Stevenson back :greengrin

Hope not, time for them to move on.

[Billy McKirdy]

I would be willing to let him have a go.

[Smartie]

Surely if David Gray is a contender then Ian Murray ticks even more boxes.

Both very strong candidates imo.

[Lago]

Both very strong candidates imo.
Agree

[AlbertK86]

John Doolan as his assistant.

Thought he’d just got managers job at Accrington Stanley


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[Mikey_1875]

“Can’t be any worse”, “may as well give him a shot” hopefully no one at the club has this mindset. Go out and get the very best we can afford, with MM and the Black Knights we probably have the best resources to get a standout candidate than we have ever had. We shouldn’t be leaving any stone unturned to give us the best chance of success next season.

If SDG comes out top of that process then fair enough. The fact he has served his time or we have groomed him for the job shouldn’t guarantee it at the end if he is not the best candidate out there.

[PPZPOL]

“Can’t be any worse”, “may as well give him a shot” hopefully no one at the club has this mindset. Go out and get the very best we can afford, with MM and the Black Knights we probably have the best resources to get a standout candidate than we have ever had. We shouldn’t be leaving any stone unturned to give us the best chance of success next season.

If SDG comes out top of that process then fair enough. The fact he has served his time or we have groomed him for the job shouldn’t guarantee it at the end if he is not the best candidate out there.

Should have caveated my messages by saying he deserves a shot but of course has to go through some sort of recruitment/interview process where he is asked about his vision/strategy etc (and whatever other questions they ask in the famous 6 hour interviews). Although that was LJ that said that and after listening to him I’d imagine he probably spoke for 5.5 hrs of that.

[Donegal Hibby]

Only seen this now . Short clip of Gray talking about MM .
https://youtu.be/IzPhcMo9mN4?si=CP587PZlBkcCDz6U

[greenpaper55]

I think the first thing he would do would be to sign Stevenson and Hanlon on a deal. I honestly believe that.
Yes, two for the future!

[blackpoolhibs]

I've wanted McInnes for years, but if he's not approached or does not want the job, then David Gray would be my next choise. He knows what the club needs, he's seen the fall from 3rd place under Ross, and he also knows if he does not deliver what happens next.

He also would know being too sentimental with some players will cost him his job, and he knows the squad, will not have to assess them before getting rid or keeping.

A gamble, but probably not the worst gamble we could make?

Unless the BK group have someone lined up of course.:greengrin

[Hibs3-2]

Is there anywhere you can watch his press conference in full?

Never bothered before but i enjoy listening to him speak as opposed to the other managers

[Donegal Hibby]

Thought this was a good article and I'm more in more in favour of SDG getting the job . Do wonder if Sunday's game will have a bearing on him getting it ? .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/david-grays-non-negotiables-hibs-interim-manager-nick-montgomery-replacement-4633347

[Cat Stanton]

I'm biased, and not in a good way, for two reasons. First, as others have no doubt said, I don't want the 2016 sainthood/knighthood to be tarnished - ever. And let's be honest, it wouldn't take five minutes on here before they were screaming for his head.

And second, because when he took over for the league cup final after Ross' sacking, the football was honking. Total hoof ball.

That said, I couldn't make the Motherwell game, so maybe his tactical nous has improved..?

[jacomo]

This is my worry, that a full and frank rebuild won’t happen. Maybe a clean slate for McKirdy, give Jair a chance to see what he can do. Maybe tweak who plays further forward in terms of JDH and Newall. We’ve not seen that much of Wollacott, do we stick with him and give him the season to see if he’s got it to be number one. Rocky has some good moments at times, so we could try and play him and Hanlon together to tighten things up…

You get my point.


I think SDG has shown a very clear understanding of how to set up the team to win during his care taking spells. Obvs as full time manager he’d also have an eye on the longer term, but not just giving fringe players experience for the sake of it.

[Donegal Hibby]

SDG here pre match Livingston.
https://youtu.be/pes50A-vsf4?si=6IKxIJg2XNUCL3Ou

[booshsutton]

Thought he’d just got managers job at Accrington Stanley


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Who are they?

[HibbyAndy]

Who are they?

Accrington AND !!! Stanley

[Bridge hibs]

Accrington AND !!! Stanley

Erm 😁

The club came to national prominence in 1989 due to the Milk Marketing Board's popular television advert that featured the slogan Accrington Stanley, Who Are They?

[Cropley10]

I'm biased, and not in a good way, for two reasons. First, as others have no doubt said, I don't want the 2016 sainthood/knighthood to be tarnished - ever. And let's be honest, it wouldn't take five minutes on here before they were screaming for his head.

And second, because when he took over for the league cup final after Ross' sacking, the football was honking. Total hoof ball.

That said, I couldn't make the Motherwell game, so maybe his tactical nous has improved..?

Well, yes - that’s a huge part of the problem people on here screaming for managers’ heads and the club being run by people who pay far too much attention to what is written on here and X…

[matty_f]

I made a case for SDG when Monty got the job (although ultimately I thought Monty was a better prospect, more fool me).

My only real reservation is that we need a decent rebuild this summer, and so recruitment needs to be spot on - I don't know how much exposure he's had to that side of things and whether that's a strength of his.

Obviously he's not solely responsible for recruitment, but he needs to a) know if a player is good enough or not, b) know if they can fit what he's trying to do, and c) be able to tell the club "no, get me someone else" if he's not happy with the options.

If we assume that the whole Recruitment set up gets an overhaul and is improved, this becomes less of a concern.

I'd love him to get it, to be honest. The guy knows how to set standards, he's a proper leader and he knows how to win games here.

[Since452]

Malky McKay will be wanting to make a solid start. That rules SDG out for me. Too risky for his first appointment. There's too much going on just now for it to be his time.

[Donegal Hibby]

During the Motherwell game I noticed McGregor seemed to be doing what Gray done before Monty was sacked in watching the screen in the dugout .

Might not mean anything though have a feeling if Gray did get the job there's probably a good enough chance McGregor would be his NO. 2 .

Might leave a opening for Lewy to get into coaching which I said he wanted to do .

[J-C]

I made a case for SDG when Monty got the job (although ultimately I thought Monty was a better prospect, more fool me).

My only real reservation is that we need a decent rebuild this summer, and so recruitment needs to be spot on - I don't know how much exposure he's had to that side of things and whether that's a strength of his.

Obviously he's not solely responsible for recruitment, but he needs to a) know if a player is good enough or not, b) know if they can fit what he's trying to do, and c) be able to tell the club "no, get me someone else" if he's not happy with the options.

If we assume that the whole Recruitment set up gets an overhaul and is improved, this becomes less of a concern.

I'd love him to get it, to be honest. The guy knows how to set standards, he's a proper leader and he knows how to win games here.

With the new set up with MM in charge of all things football related except coaching, Gray won't have a lot of say in recruitment, he'll have discussions about the style and type of players needed but MM will be in charge of getting those players signed up.

[matty_f]

With the new set up with MM in charge of all things football related except coaching, Gray won't have a lot of say in recruitment, he'll have discussions about the style and type of players needed but MM will be in charge of getting those players signed up.

I would be surprised if that's the case, whoever the head coach is will continue to have a big day in recruitment.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I would be surprised if that's the case, whoever the head coach is will continue to have a big day in recruitment.

Aye , meeting every wednesday

[bingo70]

Malky McKay will be wanting to make a solid start. That rules SDG out for me. Too risky for his first appointment. There's too much going on just now for it to be his time.

Thinking about Mackays interview, I think he was very specific as to the coach he was wanting, I just don’t think Gray meets that criteria.

Able to conduct training sessions in front of 100 people? I presume he means other coaches. To me that was a nod to wanting an experienced coach.

Able to change tactics mid game to adjust to what was happening on the pitch. I don’t think a handful of games as a caretaker is a big enough sample size to make that judgement.

I can’t remember the exact wording of the next one but it was along the lines of a coach that’s really pushed themselves to be a willing learner? Has Gray done anything to suggest he ticks that box? Not that I know of, from the outside looking in, he’s stayed in his comfort zone at Hibs. That’s not a criticism of him, I just don’t think he meets that criteria Mackay was looking for.

He also mentioned clubs leaking stories about managers and almost let clubs pick the popular person rather than the right person. I have a suspicion Mackay will go for someone who wouldn’t necessarily be a popular choice but meets the other criteria.

I could guess at someone who meets all that criteria but as they wouldn’t be a popular choice I’d get dogs abuse so don’t think I’ll bother 😂

[Donegal Hibby]

Boyle article here .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-livewire-vows-penny-will-drop-in-new-leadership-role-4633501

[Trinity Hibee]

Boyle article here .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-livewire-vows-penny-will-drop-in-new-leadership-role-4633501

I like Boyle but he’s been very poor this season. About time he stepped up

[chippy]

Boyle article here .
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-livewire-vows-penny-will-drop-in-new-leadership-role-4633501

Sounds like he’s had an Appraisal with Malky

[SHODAN]

Looks like Gray wants the job.

[jeffers]

Looks like Gray wants the job.

He does. I’ve gone from being 50/50 to now wanting him to get it. I believe he’ll be a good appointment.

[Unseen work]

Thinking about Mackays interview, I think he was very specific as to the coach he was wanting, I just don’t think Gray meets that criteria.

Able to conduct training sessions in front of 100 people? I presume he means other coaches. To me that was a nod to wanting an experienced coach.

Able to change tactics mid game to adjust to what was happening on the pitch. I don’t think a handful of games as a caretaker is a big enough sample size to make that judgement.

I can’t remember the exact wording of the next one but it was along the lines of a coach that’s really pushed themselves to be a willing learner? Has Gray done anything to suggest he ticks that box? Not that I know of, from the outside looking in, he’s stayed in his comfort zone at Hibs. That’s not a criticism of him, I just don’t think he meets that criteria Mackay was looking for.

He also mentioned clubs leaking stories about managers and almost let clubs pick the popular person rather than the right person. I have a suspicion Mackay will go for someone who wouldn’t necessarily be a popular choice but meets the other criteria.

I could guess at someone who meets all that criteria but as they wouldn’t be a popular choice I’d get dogs abuse so don’t think I’ll bother 😂

I’m the same as you and said the same on another thread, the three points were

- Putting on a good coaching session, even under pressure infront of 100 people and getting your message across simply

- Being a ‘student of the game’ and be willing to learn and change tactics based on what’s happening in the game

- Being a ‘people catcher’

I’m not sure Gray is the people catcher/leader he is after just yet. A leader as a captain 100%, but to galvanise a club and be able to talk to passionately to get everyone to buy into Hibs and talk players into signing that were a bit hesitant? I’m unsure.

I suppose the good thing with Gray is he’s seen who is rubbish and good for us over the years and who is good in the league. Could see him signing Mitov, Kerr, CJ Egan Riley, Docherty etc

[JimBHibees]

I’m the same as you and said the same on another thread, the three points were

- Putting on a good coaching session, even under pressure infront of 100 people and getting your message across simply

- Being a ‘student of the game’ and be willing to learn and change tactics based on what’s happening in the game

- Being a ‘people catcher’

I’m not sure Gray is the people catcher/leader he is after just yet. A leader as a captain 100%, but to galvanise a club and be able to talk to passionately to get everyone to buy into Hibs and talk players into signing that were a bit hesitant? I’m unsure.

I suppose the good thing with Gray is he’s seen who is rubbish and good for us over the years and who is good in the league. Could see him signing Mitov, Kerr, CJ Egan Riley, Docherty etc

Sounds like Malky was describing Lee Johnson 😀

[jeffers]

Sounds like Malky was describing Lee Johnson 😀

You’ve taken that too far.

[Springbank]

Sounds like Malky was describing Lee Johnson 😀

No, my first thought was it was exactly the 3 things that Mowbray & Stubbs brought to Leith & the Hibee nation

[JimBHibees]

You’ve taken that too far.

😃

[Is It On....]

Erm 😁

The club came to national prominence in 1989 due to the Milk Marketing Board's popular television advert that featured the slogan Accrington Stanley, Who Are They?

Exactly!!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Who are they?

The only English league side at the start of this season never to have played at Wembley IIRC.

[Trinity Hibee]

The only English league side at the start of this season never to have played at Wembley IIRC.

Good stat that

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Good stat that

I only read it yesterday, came in handy a lot quicker than expected. 😀

[Greenworld]

With the new set up with MM in charge of all things football related except coaching, Gray won't have a lot of say in recruitment, he'll have discussions about the style and type of players needed but MM will be in charge of getting those players signed up.I don't see that being the case , it will be a discussion MM was very clear he was there to support the manager .
The player signings will be a joint agreement I still don't think it will be Gray my hope is for DM then we have a strong football leadership and knowledge.

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