Lap of 'honour'

[Monts]

For those who left before the end or didn't make the game, following the final whistle and usual handshakes, Monty led the team round the stands, clapping the fans to a chorus of boos.

At the time I thought this was disrespectful, a bit like disregarding the fans opinions and going for it anyway.

But thinking about it now, does it also show a bit of character and balls that haven't really been evident in him before?

Or was it just avoiding going down the tunnel to even more focussed boos?

Thoughts?

[SeanWilson]

For those who left before the end or didn't make the game, following the final whistle and usual handshakes, Monty led the team round the stands, clapping the fans to a chorus of boos.

At the time I thought this was disrespectful, a bit like disregarding the fans opinions and going for it anyway.

But thinking about it now, does it also show a bit of character and balls that haven't really been evident in him before?

Or was it just avoiding going down the tunnel to even more focussed boos?

Thoughts?

I think there’s nothing more too it than he’s thick and can’t read the room.

[LaMotta]

I think there’s nothing more too it than he’s thick and can’t read the room.

You've said it blunter than I would have but you are spot on. It shows a terrible lack of judgement - which unfortunately is in keeping with his time as manager at Hibs.

[TrinityHFC]

For those who left before the end or didn't make the game, following the final whistle and usual handshakes, Monty led the team round the stands, clapping the fans to a chorus of boos.

At the time I thought this was disrespectful, a bit like disregarding the fans opinions and going for it anyway.

But thinking about it now, does it also show a bit of character and balls that haven't really been evident in him before?

Or was it just avoiding going down the tunnel to even more focussed boos?

Thoughts?

They do it every game to show appreciation to the fans. It is obviously more uncomfortable for them when they lose but they can’t suddenly not bother or that would be hiding.

[BILLYHIBS]

I remember him doing similar recently to much embarrassment

The guy is a total disconnect

Needs to leave the building permanently

[SaulGoodman]

I want him gone and much as the next guy, but let’s be honest, that’s a lose-lose situation for him. He’d get slated for disappearing straight down the tunnel too.

[LaMotta]

They do it every game to show appreciation to the fans. It is obviously more uncomfortable for them when they lose but they can’t suddenly not bother or that would be hiding.

That's why it is a mistake to do it every game. Sets yourself up for unneccessary uncomfortable cringeworthy laps of dishonour. The only thing missing is rotten fruit being thrown at the team.

[Edinburgh Green]

They do it every game to show appreciation to the fans. It is obviously more uncomfortable for them when they lose but they can’t suddenly not bother or that would be hiding.

I get that he's always done and can't really change it now, but does anyone really give a flying one if the manager/players give appreciation to us.

I appreciate good football, desire etc. Not fussed about someone clapping at me.

[B.H.F.C]

He does it every week win, lose or draw. He was about in the stand at Ross County last week. He stood there clapping, looking a bit blank and taking a lot of stick at Motherwell.

It’s funny, I remember Johnson getting stick for always just disappearing straight up the tunnel when we lost but being front and centre when we won.

Just shows that, as long as the team is putting in pitiful performances, you're snookered whatever you do.

[LaMotta]

I want him gone and much as the next guy, but let’s be honest, that’s a lose-lose situation for him. He’d get slated for disappearing straight down the tunnel too.

He's getting slated regardless. Get yourself and the team down the tunnel pronto to avoid the deeply unpleasant and inevitable vitriol that you know is coming.

[He's here!]

I don't have a problem with it as a ritual but you have to assume the players don't give a f*** what the fans think. If they did they'd put more of an effort into impressing them on the pitch in order to avoid their hostility post-match.

In saying that, there were so few fans left yesterday that it was hardly like the players were facing a cauldron of rage.

If we lose comfortably again on Wednesday the only reason anyone will be still hanging around will be to say bye to Hanlon and Stevenson.

[LaMotta]

He does it every week win, lose or draw. He was about in the stand at Ross County last week. He stood there clapping, looking a bit blank and taking a lot of stick at Motherwell.

It’s funny, I remember Johnson getting stick for always just disappearing straight up the tunnel when we lost but being front and centre when we won.

Just shows that, as long as the team is putting in pitiful performances, you're snookered whatever you do.

You are absolutely right - so the sensible option is to get down the tunnel.

[He's here!]

That's why it is a mistake to do it every game. Sets yourself up for unneccessary uncomfortable cringeworthy laps of dishonour. The only thing missing is rotten fruit being thrown at the team.

Maybe the threat of a rotton fruit pelting would give the players the kick up the arse they need.

[Groathillgrump]

For those who left before the end or didn't make the game, following the final whistle and usual handshakes, Monty led the team round the almost empty stands, clapping the fans to a chorus of boos.

At the time I thought this was disrespectful, a bit like disregarding the fans opinions and going for it anyway.

But thinking about it now, does it also show a bit of character and balls that haven't really been evident in him before?

Or was it just avoiding going down the tunnel to even more focussed boos?

Thoughts?

Fixed that for you. :wink:

I actually stayed to the bitter end yesterday and I'm ashamed to say a random group of us lost the plot when Monty came over to the West Stand. After a defeat I normally leave the ground thinking 'oh well, that was crap' but he got it with both barrels yesterday. That second half was probably one of the most spineless, inept perfomances I've seen from a Hibs side in my 54 years of watching them. It actually looked as if most of them weren't trying or didn't care about the result. Where's your professional pride guys?

I'll be back as usual on Wednesday night but things could turn really toxic if we get off to a bad start.

[maturehibby]

I stayed at the end and I did clap but not for the players but the Jersey as I can't boo Hibernian Football club .
And if I'm being Frank it took guts for him and the players to walk round the ground and take their "Punishment "
Might spur them on for the next 2 games

[hibee_girl]

I want him gone and much as the next guy, but let’s be honest, that’s a lose-lose situation for him. He’d get slated for disappearing straight down the tunnel too.

Exactly. I actually respect him for facing up to the fans.

[Edinburgh Green]

I stayed at the end and I did clap but not for the players but the Jersey as I can't boo Hibernian Football club .
And if I'm being Frank it took guts for him and the players to walk round the ground and take their "Punishment "
Might spur them on for the next 2 games

They also took their 'punishment' up at dingwall and it had zero effect on yesterdays car crash

[SeanWilson]

Exactly. I actually respect him for facing up to the fans.

Getting pumped 4-0 and doing a lap of honour could be seen as antagonistic. I’d respect him more if he handed in his jotters, rather than hanging around for a pay off. 👍

[Smartie]

To go against the grain - I quite like it.

It shows balls to face up to a potentially tricky situation come rain or shine and show gratitude to those who turn up to support and (to use a phrase I generally hate) pay your wages.

The only issue I have is that going by his comments after the game yesterday, somehow Hibs' professional footballers find it difficult to play football in a slightly tricky environment when they should be 100% focussed on what is going on on the pitch, yet walking around facing up to furious punters appears to be straightforward.

I don't really have any issue with the players and manager, at the end of the game, seeing the whites of the crowd's eyes. Quite the opposite.

And this is at a time when I'm criticising the manager, the players and the club for practically everything.

[hibee_girl]

Getting pumped 4-0 and doing a lap of honour could be seen as antagonistic. I’d respect him more if he handed in his jotters, rather than hanging around for a pay off. 👍

It’s not a lap of honour though is it?

Bigger things to get annoyed about.

[Broken Gnome]

It's tone deaf in these situations not to realise there's a middle ground - they can group in the centre circle, clap and hold their hands up, then trudge off.

15 seconds, done and dusted, none of this ceremony which becomes utterly cringeworthy for all involved.

[Forza Fred]

It’s not a lap of honour though is it?

Bigger things to get annoyed about.

Exactly.

It’s a show of appreciation to the supporters for coming out.

Some of the same people on here who are criticising it would be the first to accuse the players of running away and hiding if they just went straight down the tunnel.

Reading some of the posts it’s almost like a competition to see who can claim to be the most offended.

[GreenCastle]

Expect Hibs to beat Motherwell and players to walk round with family and kids ?

Expecting players to surely raise their game for Hanlon and Stevenson last home game.

Hanlon captain yesterday and Stevenson on Wednesday??

[Berwickhibby]

Expect Hibs to beat Motherwell and players to walk round with family and kids ?

Expecting players to surely raise their game for Hanlon and Stevenson last home game.

Hanlon captain yesterday and Stevenson on Wednesday??

I expect another thumping from an organised Motherwell ….the last two weeks have proved we have a bunch of gutless wage thieves masquerading as players

[Scotty Leither]

I think there’s nothing more too it than he’s thick and can’t read the room.

Agreed…poor guy looks totally bewildered and needs relieved of his post as soon as possible. What I find more cringeworthy though is him shaking hands and high-fiveing players as he’s dolefully walking round the pitch.

I somehow can’t image Ferguson, Turnbull, or Jim McLean shaking players’ hands after a 0-4 reversal to a crap team at home.

[GreenCastle]

I expect another thumping from an organised Motherwell ….the last two weeks have proved we have a bunch of gutless wage thieves masquerading as players

Motherwell haven’t lost to Hibs in last 4.

They have also only lost 1 in last 6 or 2 in last 8.

Beat Hibs and they will finish above us.

Have a feeling we need to win next 2 to finish 7th if anyone cares. But we never win 2 in a row and rarely keep a clean sheet so signs aren’t good.

Think more probably finish 9th which will be worst since 2013/2014 when we lost in playoff and got relegated - Finished 11th that season.

[Contador]

Was the only backbone they shown all day.

[JimBHibees]

They do it every game to show appreciation to the fans. It is obviously more uncomfortable for them when they lose but they can’t suddenly not bother or that would be hiding.

I think it says a lot for him in doing it especially when we lose.

[LaMotta]

Exactly.

It’s a show of appreciation to the supporters for coming out.

Some of the same people on here who are criticising it would be the first to accuse the players of running away and hiding if they just went straight down the tunnel.

Reading some of the posts it’s almost like a competition to see who can claim to be the most offended.


I dont think anyone is offended by the act, its more just people commenting on yet another sign of poor judgement from the manager.

[Real Emerald]

I think it says a lot for him in doing it especially when we lose.

I just think it shows him up for being gullible and not reading the room. It’s just plain stupid doing a lap clapping a baying crowd. He’s so out of touch he can’t even see it.

[JimBHibees]

I just think it shows him up for being gullible and not reading the room. It’s just plain stupid doing a lap clapping a baying crowd. He’s so out of touch he can’t even see it.

He would be accused of being a coward and slaughtered if he stopped doing it

[Wilson]

I dont think anyone is offended by the act, its more just people commenting on yet another sign of poor judgement from the manager.

If they didn't do a walk round they would get slated for running and hiding.

Pretty much damned if they do , damned if they don't.

For me it is good that they face the music.

[SeanWilson]

Exactly.

It’s a show of appreciation to the supporters for coming out.

Some of the same people on here who are criticising it would be the first to accuse the players of running away and hiding if they just went straight down the tunnel.

Reading some of the posts it’s almost like a competition to see who can claim to be the most offended.

There will always be an element of supporters that will never be happy.

You’ve just been horsed by one of the worst Aberdeen performances in recent years….. it’s probably not what the fans are wanting. Hence why most of them were already in the pub, moaning about them all.

Why is wandering around clapping at angry folks showing balls or garnering respect? It’s moronic.

[Wheat Hound]

Last week at Dingwall was just plain weird the way he was ushered right over to the fans by Marcondes and then just stood dead eyed robotically clapping. I just don't think he is very bright

[Real Emerald]

He would be accused of being a coward and slaughtered if he stopped doing it

He’s getting slaughtered for being a bad manager, clapping a crowd baying for your blood isn’t helping anything. Anyway it’s a pointless argument really, it won’t affect our performance whether he walks around clapping after a game or not. It just looks ridiculous in my opinion.

[percy veer]

Expect Hibs to beat Motherwell and players to walk round with family and kids ?

Expecting players to surely raise their game for Hanlon and Stevenson last home game.

Hanlon captain yesterday and Stevenson on Wednesday??


I expect we will get demolished and knowing us halliday and Spittal will stick the boot in.

[Salvo1875]

It’s not a lap of honour though is it?

Bigger things to get annoyed about.

I agree. It's a surely just a show of appreciation for the fans that still stuck around despite that utter disaster?

[flash]

I agree. It's a surely just a show of appreciation for the fans that still stuck around despite that utter disaster?

As somebody who was still there when they trudged round it must have been a deeply uncomfortable experience for all involved.

They were getting it tight from all directions.

[LaMotta]

If they didn't do a walk round they would get slated for running and hiding.

Pretty much damned if they do , damned if they don't.

For me it is good that they face the music.

Yes exactly, thats why its poor judgement.

Choice 1 - quick clap from the centre circle then straight up the tunnel resulting in some criticism from a few on social media for not clapping the fans properly.

Choice 2- a humiliating and debillitating parade round the ground to be roundly booed with people screaming at you to **** off out the club whilst waving white hankies. All just to appease a few fans who think that they should be clapped for having turned up.

Both options still result in 95% of fans wanting rid of you. Having a few people on social media saying you are brave for facing them doesn't change that. Option 1 is the better choice.

[WeeRussell]

I agree. It's a surely just a show of appreciation for the fans

I’m very sure that’s exactly what it was.

Whether it was wise or not is perhaps debatable but I don’t think the manager’s motives can be questioned around it.

It’s not arrogance or delusion.

[Donegal Hibby]

One of them situations were " your damned if you do , damned if you don't !. Certainly isn't a lap of honour either.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

One of them situations were " your damned if you do , damned if you don't !. Certainly isn't a lap of honour either.

You're right, lap of dishonour surely.

[Lendo]

For those who left before the end or didn't make the game, following the final whistle and usual handshakes, Monty led the team round the stands, clapping the fans to a chorus of boos.

At the time I thought this was disrespectful, a bit like disregarding the fans opinions and going for it anyway.

But thinking about it now, does it also show a bit of character and balls that haven't really been evident in him before?

Or was it just avoiding going down the tunnel to even more focussed boos?

Thoughts?

If the team hadn’t done it there would be another thread on here from someone else complaining about the lack of respect from the team and manager not doing a lap. I want him out as much as the next man, but in this scenario there is no winning.

[Dmas]

As somebody who was still there when they trudged round it must have been a deeply uncomfortable experience for all involved.

They were getting it tight from all directions.

Good and hopefully marcondes got it tight as well, he forced the manager into that situation last week its only right they are kept to those standards if that's how they want it

[Smartie]

If the team hadn’t done it there would be another thread on here from someone else complaining about the lack of respect from the team and manager not doing a lap. I want him out as much as the next man, but in this scenario there is no winning.

Agreed re the no win situation.

But in terms of what I'd prefer out of the 2 alternatives, I'd rather he ingrained the habit of standing up and facing the music over running away and hiding.

[Phil MaGlass]

Expect Hibs to beat Motherwell and players to walk round with family and kids ?

Expecting players to surely raise their game for Hanlon and Stevenson last home game.

Hanlon captain yesterday and Stevenson on Wednesday??

No way were beating Motherwell. Another thumping.

[john rossi]

As I have mentioned in earlier thread took some guts to face a disgruntled home support and clap them shows a bit of character to do that so I will cut Monty some slack for this. Also the players should did their bit really have headed up the tunnel.

[Carheenlea]

I’ve never had a problem with it.

It’s for us, not them.

An acknowledgment of the fans continued support. A round about way of an apology in defeat and not f we do win, then some reciprocal acknowledgment is returned by the fans.

[john rossi]

As I have mentioned in earlier thread took some guts to face a disgruntled home support and clap them shows a bit of character to do that so I will cut Monty some slack for this. Also the players should did their bit really have headed up the tunnel.

[Greenbeard]

You are absolutely right - so the sensible option is to get down the tunnel.
Or better still, down the road......

[Keith_M]

Was there anybody actually in the ground at the end of the game?

[paddy1875]

I’d love it if after our hammering off Motherwell he comes up and does one of those klopp fist pumps to the fans. Our one of those slow build up Celtic celebrations with the green brigade. Bouncing up and down waving his arms.

Would at least show he’s up for a laugh


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[LaMotta]

I’d love it if after our hammering off Motherwell he comes up and does one of those klopp fist pumps to the fans. Our one of those slow build up Celtic celebrations with the green brigade. Bouncing up and down waving his arms.

Would at least show he’s up for a laugh


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:rotflmao:Brilliant!

[jakedance]

It seems to be another thing that’s creeped over from Europe like the ultra culture, where players stay back to get a ticking off from the support after a bad result. They used to just do a wee clap from the centre circle and then everyone called it a day. Looks completely pointless to me, but going by this thread others seem to expect it so I guess it’s staying.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

It seems to be another thing that’s creeped over from Europe like the ultra culture, where players stay back to get a ticking off from the support after a bad result. They used to just do a wee clap from the centre circle and then everyone called it a day. Looks completely pointless to me, but going by this thread others seem to expect it so I guess it’s staying.

1) they deserve a ticking off
2) Monty was at CCM before us and Australia famously isn’t in Europe


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[Forza Fred]

1) they deserve a ticking off
2) Monty was at CCM before us and Australia famously isn’t in Europe


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In Oz it’s common place for the team to go round the ground and get photos /sign autographs/ exchange high Fives with their supporters after the game.

Even the international teams…particularly the Matildas, go out of their way to interact with their fans….to the point now where their supporters whinge like hell if they don’t.

I guess you could say it’s now all part of the match day experience.

I’m quietly surprised that such a humble exercise warrants a thread of several pages.

[JimBHibees]

I’d love it if after our hammering off Motherwell he comes up and does one of those klopp fist pumps to the fans. Our one of those slow build up Celtic celebrations with the green brigade. Bouncing up and down waving his arms.

Would at least show he’s up for a laugh


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That would be brilliant 🤩