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MWHIBBIES
12-05-2024, 03:17 PM
Ripped the absolute soul out of Easter Road.

Sell up and **** off please.

HibbyAndy
12-05-2024, 03:18 PM
Ripped the absolute soul out of Easter Road.

Sell up and **** off please.

Agreed

Trinity Hibee
12-05-2024, 03:19 PM
Ruined this club on the park

Jones28
12-05-2024, 03:19 PM
Not tonight eh? Plenty of good things have happened under their stewardship.

Vault Boy
12-05-2024, 03:20 PM
Tore apart a football structure that had been largely successful for us, wasted millions on failure after failure, now backtracking to a similar structure to the one they got rid of. Sound.

Famousfivehh
12-05-2024, 03:20 PM
They are clueless and don't appear to be learning from Their numerous mistakes.

SHODAN
12-05-2024, 03:20 PM
Their biggest mistake was putting Kensell in charge of anything football related. They need to rectify that.

MWHIBBIES
12-05-2024, 03:21 PM
Not tonight eh? Plenty of good things have happened under their stewardship.

It's ****ing long overdue.

No, lots of good things have not happened. Since Leeann left and Kensell arrived, we've been a disgrace on the pitch. They must go.

we are hibs
12-05-2024, 03:22 PM
Agreed 100%.

Theyve got off lightly compared to what Petrie got too tbh.


Couldn't believe there were folk praising them for "writing off" the debt that was generated in the last couple of years. The debt they created FFS.

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Jones28
12-05-2024, 03:23 PM
It's ****ing long overdue.

No, lots of good things have not happened. Since Leeann left and Kensell arrived, we've been a disgrace on the pitch. They must go.

Ok well good luck with the campaign.

Trinity Hibee
12-05-2024, 03:23 PM
Ok well good luck with the campaign.

You sir cannot be a Hibs fan

Pretty Boy
12-05-2024, 03:23 PM
Nice people, well intentioned.

****ing clueless when it comes to running a football club.

Jones28
12-05-2024, 03:24 PM
Agreed 100%.

Theyve got off lightly compared to what Petrie got too tbh.

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That’s a false equivalence, Petrie was Kensall’s equivalent.

Hibees1973
12-05-2024, 03:24 PM
At last.

Someone has finally started a thread other than me about our owners. Apparently I'm obsessed with them.

The ARE at the root of all our problems. Pleased some Hibs supporters are beginning to see the light.

It's too late now though. They have taken us down a road with The Black Knights which any prospective new owner will have difficulty negotiating with.

It's going to be a hell of a long way back.

we are hibs
12-05-2024, 03:25 PM
That’s a false equivalence, Petrie was Kensall’s equivalent.It's not at all


Petrie ran the club. Ian Gordon and Ben Kensell "run" the club now. Farmer made it clear he had no interest in being a hands on owner and left it to Petrie

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Jones28
12-05-2024, 03:25 PM
You sir cannot be a Hibs fan

No I’m actually a deep cover jambo. I’ve got Hibs tattoos and have been posting on Hibs net since I was about 15. Thats commitment.

TrinityHFC
12-05-2024, 03:26 PM
Their biggest mistake was putting Kensell in charge of anything football related. They need to rectify that.

CEOs are responsible for the whole thing. The people running the day to day football side have failed. He appointed them though so it is his responsibility.

truehibernian
12-05-2024, 03:26 PM
John Collins in as Director of Football - Ben K to get his marching orders, Monty won’t be here next season as I’ve always said, and an experienced manager who knows this league, Scottish football and unites the team and support. Easy !

MWHIBBIES
12-05-2024, 03:26 PM
At last.

Someone has finally started a thread other than me about our owners. Apparently I'm obsessed with them.

The ARE at the root of all our problems. Pleased some Hibs supporters are beginning to see the light.

It's too late now though. They have taken us down a road with The Black Knights which any prospective new owner will have difficulty negotiating with.

It's going to be a hell of a long way back.

I've been saying it for years tbf. I was very wary when Dempster left. She gave us our club back. These idiots have undone all her work.

Trinity Hibee
12-05-2024, 03:26 PM
No I’m actually a deep cover jambo. I’ve got Hibs tattoos and have been posting on Hibs net since I was about 15. Thats commitment.

At least you’ve come clean. Come on man, this is exactly the time for this thread. It’s a disgrace what is happening at our club

Chorley Hibee
12-05-2024, 03:27 PM
2016, the engaged and eager Hibs support, record ticket sales, huge crowds, and a successful team, all seem but a distant memory now.

The Gordon family, Kensell, the rest of the board, the numerous incompetents throughout the club, and the catalogue of hopeless managers, have set us back to pre-2016 levels.

I'm scared by what the Black Knights saga could look like, too.

Pretty Boy
12-05-2024, 03:27 PM
That’s a false equivalence, Petrie was Kensall’s equivalent.

They get off lightly compared to Tom Farmer then, that's also true.

Jones28
12-05-2024, 03:28 PM
At least you’ve come clean. Come on man, this is exactly the time for this thread. It’s a disgrace what is happening at our club

I’m not saying it’s not a disgrace. I don’t believe the Gordon’s have appointed the right people/person, that’s very much on them.

What’s happening on the park right now is down to a group of players who are a disgrace and a clueless manager.

GreenCastle
12-05-2024, 03:28 PM
Lack of leadership at all levels.

We are a serious joke of a club and wasting a load of money on dross staff.

Jones28
12-05-2024, 03:29 PM
They get off lightly compared to Tom Farmer then, that's also true.

I don’t remember STF getting criticism anything like the Gordon’s have had, Petrie copped a ****load of the flak.

Northernhibee
12-05-2024, 03:31 PM
Rich men playing real life football manager.

We’ve ended up with a DoF who should never be a DoF, a CEO who gets off lightly because he likes a beer and has overseen hospitality getting a lick of paint, a defence that can’t keep goals out, a midfield that doesn’t pass or battle, a £700k striker who couldn’t score in a brothel, the remaining players who get the club leaving, and I don’t see where it gets better.


But it’s OK, they’re reviewing it.

Keith_M
12-05-2024, 03:31 PM
What annoys me most is the stupid apostrophe in their name.

I mean. if they can't even get the hang of spelling, then they shouldn't own a football club.

Pretty Boy
12-05-2024, 03:33 PM
I don’t remember STF getting criticism anything like the Gordon’s have had, Petrie copped a ****load of the flak.

There were 2 coordinated campaigns against him.

One after relegation in 1998 and another far more recently. The latter was particularly vitriolic.

The man saved the club and left a brilliant platform to build on. Yet some speak about him as though he was some reckless moron who didn't have a clue.

Look at what Farmer inherited when he bought the club and what he left. What he left is what the Gordon's inherited and I know what looks better by every possible measure.

hibeerealist
12-05-2024, 03:38 PM
there were 2 coordinated campaigns against him.

One after relegation in 1998 and another far more recently. The latter was particularly vitriolic.

The man saved the club and left a brilliant platform to build on. Yet some speak about him as though he was some reckless moron who didn't have a clue.

Look at what farmer inherited when he bought the club and what he left. What he left is what the gordon's inherited and i know what looks better by every possible measure.


100% pb

Jones28
12-05-2024, 03:38 PM
There were 2 coordinated campaigns against him.

One after relegation in 1998 and another far more recently. The latter was particularly vitriolic.

The man saved the club and left a brilliant platform to build on. Yet some speak about him as though he was some reckless moron who didn't have a clue.

Look at what Farmer inherited when he bought the club and what he left. What he left is what the Gordon's inherited and I know what looks better by every possible measure.

I’m not disagreeing with anything you’re saying, the campaigns are not something I remember, especially the 1998 one as I was 5 years old at the time.

I remember one pretty pathetic banner being unveiled and about 15 folk backing it at the time circa 2011 or thereabouts.

It might be worth remembering that RG passed away a little over a year ago, leaving his family to run the club in his stead and it would have been a hell of a lot to take on for them.

I’m very much prepared to cut them some slack in the circumstances and would say that Kensall is the one I want to see **** off.

I’m not sure what we’re disagreeing about here? Unless you want the Gordon’s gone?

He's here!
12-05-2024, 03:40 PM
Not tonight eh? Plenty of good things have happened under their stewardship.

Better hospitality won't mean much when there's nobody using it. We're a joke where it matters and there's zero sign the Gordons are capable of putting the right people in place to change that. Their tenure has been, as another poster put it, a slow puncture.

The Tubs
12-05-2024, 03:43 PM
There were 2 coordinated campaigns against him.

One after relegation in 1998 and another far more recently. The latter was particularly vitriolic.

The man saved the club and left a brilliant platform to build on. Yet some speak about him as though he was some reckless moron who didn't have a clue.

Look at what Farmer inherited when he bought the club and what he left. What he left is what the Gordon's inherited and I know what looks better by every possible measure.

Well said. The one thing going for the board is that they haven’t taken us down, unlike Petrie let happen. If they haven’t realised by now that they don’t know what they’re doing, then hopefully today helps.

Hibees1973
12-05-2024, 03:44 PM
They get off lightly compared to Tom Farmer then, that's also true.

That's unfair on Sir Tom.

He wasn't hands on. He knew his limitations.

Trouble with The Gordons is they are hands on which is why the club is in a mess. Racking up huge losses, ridiculous appointments throughout the club, the list of failures goes on and on.

They have Kensell putting up so many smoke and mirrors saying it's alright and going to get better but it's clear more and more Hibs supporters no longer trust them.

The Captain....
12-05-2024, 03:45 PM
Was thinking today that the Gordons will surely be thinking this football lark isn't for them. It's going from bad to worse. Can't understand why they'd want the aggravation personally..I don't doubt their intentions were and are good but by christ it's been torture under their stewardship.

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joe breezy
12-05-2024, 03:46 PM
Hibs won the Scottish Cup which was great but we weren’t even in the premier league then.

I must have missed this glorious phase of champions league football and success that we had until the Gordons arrived


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MWHIBBIES
12-05-2024, 03:48 PM
Hibs won the Scottish Cup which was great but we weren’t even in the premier league then.

I must have missed this glorious phase of champions league football and success that we had until the Gordons arrived


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Then we got promoted, got 4th, 5th, and 3rd in the full seasons. Then Gordons hired their own people.

Hibs in the championship were a far better side than now. Far better.

we are hibs
12-05-2024, 03:49 PM
Hibs won the Scottish Cup which was great but we weren’t even in the premier league then.

I must have missed this glorious phase of champions league football and success that we had until the Gordons arrived


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The 3 years in the championship were miles ahead of the last 3 years of dross. Not even debatable either. Better players, better football, better atmosphere around the club and most importantly competent people in key positions.



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Rick Rude
12-05-2024, 03:50 PM
Hibs won the Scottish Cup which was great but we weren’t even in the premier league then.

I must have missed this glorious phase of champions league football and success that we had until the Gordons arrived


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It's not just our players who are remembered as world beaters as soon as they leave, it's also our owners and CEOs.

chrisski33
12-05-2024, 03:52 PM
It's not at all


Petrie ran the club. Ian Gordon and Ben Kensell "run" the club now. Farmer made it clear he had no interest in being a hands on owner and left it to Petrie

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So much for Farmer selling it someone who would do a good job!

Northernhibee
12-05-2024, 03:56 PM
So much for Farmer selling it someone who would do a good job!

What terrifies me is that this lot who couldn’t run a bath have made us a cog in a bigger machine and we need to trust that’s a good idea.

Itsnoteasy
12-05-2024, 04:03 PM
Not tonight eh? Plenty of good things have happened under their stewardship.

Why not tonight????

Jones28
12-05-2024, 04:04 PM
Why not tonight????

I dunno. I can’t really be bothered but hey ho.

Flanny boy
12-05-2024, 04:05 PM
Then we got promoted, got 4th, 5th, and 3rd in the full seasons. Then Gordons hired their own people.

Hibs in the championship were a far better side than now. Far better.
💯 they were better 👍

Northernhibee
12-05-2024, 04:08 PM
Hibernians of Malta are better than this squad ffs.

Itsnoteasy
12-05-2024, 04:08 PM
Every owner, player, ceo etc we've had since day dot its the same old story. We have 1-2 good seasons every 10 years.

SickBoy32
12-05-2024, 04:21 PM
That’s plenty cheers.

Time to sell up and move on 👍

SickBoy32
12-05-2024, 04:22 PM
Not tonight eh? Plenty of good things have happened under their stewardship.

Such as ?

Northernhibee
12-05-2024, 04:23 PM
Such as ?

A nice bit of chat in hospitality.

lucky
12-05-2024, 04:38 PM
It's time for them to sell their shares

Steve20
12-05-2024, 04:41 PM
Not tonight eh? Plenty of good things have happened under their stewardship.

Plenty? No sorry but that’s just not true. As supporters we want success on the pitch. So there hasn’t been good things, never mind claiming plenty.

I couldn’t give a **** if you’re getting better value for money and a better quality hospitality. It’s a team that wins games that matter and they can’t deliver.

LewysGot2
12-05-2024, 04:45 PM
The 3 years in the championship were miles ahead of the last 3 years of dross. Not even debatable either. Better players, better football, better atmosphere around the club and most importantly competent people in key positions.



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That squad would beat this squad - it's not even debatable.

GreenGray
12-05-2024, 04:46 PM
Not tonight eh? Plenty of good things have happened under their stewardship.

Why not tonight? They not allowed to be criticised?


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Jones28
12-05-2024, 05:04 PM
Why not tonight? They not allowed to be criticised?


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It’s been done to the death, nothing will change with regards to the Gordon’s as long as they choose to retain their stake in the club so as far as I’m concerned the debate is a pointless one.

Baldy Foghorn
12-05-2024, 05:10 PM
Not tonight eh? Plenty of good things have happened under their stewardship.

Aye, we have cracking big screens:rolleyes:

Hibees1973
12-05-2024, 05:12 PM
As a bare minimum Ian Gordon, our owner, has got to announce tonight that Montgomery and his senior coaching staff have been sacked immediately.

Gray appointed as caretaker until the end of the week.

Ian Gordon has got to allude to what the parameters of this review is so the Hibs support know what is going on. A responsible, competent owner and someone who cares about Hibs would do this within the next hour or two.

Think most of us have the feeling that there is a complete and lack of leadership at Hibs and it's a total shambles that Ian Gordon & Kensell do not have a clue what to do.

GreenGray
12-05-2024, 05:13 PM
It’s been done to the death, nothing will change with regards to the Gordon’s as long as they choose to retain their stake in the club so as far as I’m concerned the debate is a pointless one.

Surprised you think that. In my opinion the Gordon’s have had no where near the criticism they deserve.

Think our fan base have been fairly sympathetic towards them.

Jones28
12-05-2024, 05:22 PM
Nah I’m out. Cba going over what had been fairly well trodden ground imo.

RIP
12-05-2024, 05:29 PM
That’s a false equivalence, Petrie was Kensall’s equivalent.

Nope. Our previous CEO was Leeann Dempster. The best non-playing signing Hibs had made in my time

MWHIBBIES
12-05-2024, 05:44 PM
As a bare minimum Ian Gordon, our owner, has got to announce tonight that Montgomery and his senior coaching staff have been sacked immediately.

Gray appointed as caretaker until the end of the week.

Ian Gordon has got to allude to what the parameters of this review is so the Hibs support know what is going on. A responsible, competent owner and someone who cares about Hibs would do this within the next hour or two.

Think most of us have the feeling that there is a complete and lack of leadership at Hibs and it's a total shambles that Ian Gordon & Kensell do not have a clue what to do.
Gray is coaching staff. Can't bin the others and not him.

Hibee Mac
12-05-2024, 05:45 PM
Since around about midway through this season my opinion finally switched. I now see what is plain and simple in front of all our eyes. Our club is being run by a group who are completely clueless.

No more of this blaming the manager nonsense, the problems at this club start from the top and I will not be renewing my season ticket until they are gone.

I'll be back to the odd game here or there, but I'll not be giving any more season ticket money to a group who are taking our club further backwards at every opportunity they get, not intentionally but out of pure incompetence.

In my opinion more fans need to do the same otherwise we'll be years down the line and in who knows what kind of mess. Grim times for this football club ahead I fear.

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Hibbyradge
12-05-2024, 05:46 PM
What annoys me most is the stupid apostrophe in their name.

I mean. if they can't even get the hang of spelling, then they shouldn't own a football club.

:not worth

jakeshibs
12-05-2024, 05:49 PM
Ripped the absolute soul out of Easter Road.

Sell up and **** off please.



what a terrible post for someone who has put al lot more cash into the club, we are all hurting after that result but an awful post

Please, go ahead and be the difference you buy our club then fund our ambitions, cause we want the best players too.

Scotty Leither
12-05-2024, 05:51 PM
As a bare minimum Ian Gordon, our owner, has got to announce tonight that Montgomery and his senior coaching staff have been sacked immediately.

Gray appointed as caretaker until the end of the week.

Ian Gordon has got to allude to what the parameters of this review is so the Hibs support know what is going on. A responsible, competent owner and someone who cares about Hibs would do this within the next hour or two.

Think most of us have the feeling that there is a complete and lack of leadership at Hibs and it's a total shambles that Ian Gordon & Kensell do not have a clue what to do.

If IG says anything at all (which I doubt) it’ll be the same packaged corporate guff that our club specialises in when they send their weekly slew of emails asking us for money.

It will have no reference at all to the playing side of things, as it will be written for him by Kensell as part of their continuing mutual pact of self-preservation.

jakeshibs
12-05-2024, 05:51 PM
Hibs won the Scottish Cup which was great but we weren’t even in the premier league then.

I must have missed this glorious phase of champions league football and success that we had until the Gordons arrived


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well said, been supporting hibs for 52 years so it must of been before then too.

Trinity Hibee
12-05-2024, 05:55 PM
what a terrible post for someone who has put al lot more cash into the club, we are all hurting after that result but an awful post

Please, go ahead and be the difference you buy our club then fund our ambitions, cause we want the best players too.

You need to waken up to what is going on here. Very concerning there are a few fans like yourself defending the owners and manager. Thankfully you are in the minority.

GreenCastle
12-05-2024, 05:58 PM
They probably won’t make any decisions till after the review ?

Whenever that’s finished is anyone’s guess’s

Hibees1973
12-05-2024, 05:59 PM
Gray is coaching staff. Can't bin the others and not him.

Think you know what i mean.

Just to keep this cr*p ticking over the next two games. That's all.

Is It On....
12-05-2024, 06:03 PM
It's ****ing long overdue.

No, lots of good things have not happened. Since Leeann left and Kensell arrived, we've been a disgrace on the pitch. They must go.

It's actually since Mathie was fired, Ian Gordon was installed as Head of Football Operations (something a few of us on here were slated for objecting to at the time )and his first decision was to fire Jack Ross that things have gone badly wrong.

jakeshibs
12-05-2024, 06:04 PM
You need to waken up to what is going on here. Very concerning there are a few fans like yourself defending the owners and manager. Thankfully you are in the minority.

Been supporting hibs for 52 years

Put your money were your mouth is and buy the club then, stop bad mouthing others and be the difference.

Hibees1973
12-05-2024, 06:06 PM
Since around about midway through this season my opinion finally switched. I now see what is plain and simple in front of all our eyes. Our club is being run by a group who are completely clueless.

No more of this blaming the manager nonsense, the problems at this club start from the top and I will not be renewing my season ticket until they are gone.

I'll be back to the odd game here or there, but I'll not be giving any more season ticket money to a group who are taking our club further backwards at every opportunity they get, not intentionally but out of pure incompetence.

In my opinion more fans need to do the same otherwise we'll be years down the line and in who knows what kind of mess. Grim times for this football club ahead I fear.

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Good post and pleased your opinion has switched.

You look for a common theme for things getting worse at Hibs and Ian Gordon & Kensell are it.

If they continue to stay at Hibs, yes grim times are ahead.

This thing with the Black Knights will end up in confusion and ultimately could end up with Hibs in serious difficulty.

Paulie Walnuts
12-05-2024, 06:07 PM
Been supporting hibs for 52 years

Put your money were your mouth is and buy the club then, stop bad mouthing others and be the difference.

:faf:

Don’t have an opinion unless you’re worth around £50m+. That’s a cracker.

Iain G
12-05-2024, 06:09 PM
Ripped the absolute soul out of Easter Road.

Sell up and **** off please.

So much misplaced angst 🤣

MWHIBBIES
12-05-2024, 06:13 PM
So much misplaced angst 🤣

Na, it's exactly where it should be. Dreadful owners.

what a terrible post for someone who has put al lot more cash into the club, we are all hurting after that result but an awful post

Please, go ahead and be the difference you buy our club then fund our ambitions, cause we want the best players too.

Couldn't care less how much they've put in. It's taken us years backwards on the pitch. Clueless owners. Need to leave.

7Hero
12-05-2024, 06:17 PM
Their biggest mistake was putting Kensell in charge of anything football related. They need to rectify that.

That's not correct Ian Gordon was announced at the AGM as the head of the football dept.

The issue with the football dept. is firmly in his hands, as it has been since his dad appointed him.

Gordon needs to let someone capable run his club's football deptartment..

dp00
12-05-2024, 06:23 PM
The writing was on the wall when all the staff who had been at the club for years started to leave ……

I’ve noticed Tracy Smith who used to also work for the club questioning it on twitter today

TrinityHFC
12-05-2024, 06:26 PM
The writing was on the wall when all the staff who had been at the club for years started to leave ……

I’ve noticed Tracy Smith who used to also work for the club questioning it on twitter today

Dunno about that. We’ve been crap for years.

Lester B
12-05-2024, 06:27 PM
What annoys me most is the stupid apostrophe in their name.

I mean. if they can't even get the hang of spelling, then they shouldn't own a football club.

Thank you. I’m glad I’m not the only one.

Baldy Foghorn
12-05-2024, 06:27 PM
Sadly this is what happens, when some fancy an expensive toy to play with, not knowing much if anything about football

Keith_M
12-05-2024, 06:37 PM
Not saying that I disagree with the OP, but who do you suggest is going to be willing to buy them out?

:dunno:

Is It On....
12-05-2024, 06:39 PM
Na, it's exactly where it should be. Dreadful owners.


Couldn't care less how much they've put in. It's taken us years backwards on the pitch. Clueless owners. Need to leave.

We are now where our neighbours were a few short years when their player recruitment was awful. We just need a couple of good appointments - Head of Football Operations and Head of Analysis - and I am convinced that things can turnaround pretty quickly. That will then in turn help in the managerial and player recruitment in the summer.

Not In The Know
12-05-2024, 06:44 PM
Tore apart a football structure that had been largely successful for us, wasted millions on failure after failure, now backtracking to a similar structure to the one they got rid of. Sound.

you havin a laugh???? Largely successful. Loll.

Pretty Boy
12-05-2024, 06:47 PM
The writing was on the wall when all the staff who had been at the club for years started to leave ……

I’ve noticed Tracy Smith who used to also work for the club questioning it on twitter today

Tracey is Hibs through and through and a lovely person; she wouldn't say a word against the club or any individual within it unless it was merited.

I had a lengthy conversation with another ex employ some time ago and some of what they told me was like it was straight out the script of a comedy (and a black one at that if you are a Hibs fan).

Not In The Know
12-05-2024, 06:50 PM
At last.

Someone has finally started a thread other than me about our owners. Apparently I'm obsessed with them.

The ARE at the root of all our problems. Pleased some Hibs supporters are beginning to see the light.

It's too late now though. They have taken us down a road with The Black Knights which any prospective new owner will have difficulty negotiating with.

It's going to be a hell of a long way back.


It’s a tough one. Farmer and Petrie had half the ambition the Gordon’s do. They are doing ***** on the pitch. It’s mega frustrating. They are trying tho. How many long can we allow them to try is another question….

Not In The Know
12-05-2024, 06:53 PM
Ripped the absolute soul out of Easter Road.

Sell up and **** off please.

id love to know how they have done that??? Please explain.

Smartie
12-05-2024, 06:57 PM
Tracey is Hibs through and through and a lovely person; she wouldn't say a word against the club or any individual within it unless it was merited.

I had a lengthy conversation with another ex employ some time ago and some of what they told me was like it was straight out the script of a comedy (and a black one at that if you are a Hibs fan).

Your second paragraph - I’ve heard similar and it goes right back to when Ron took over.

There are some numbers that can be made look good on the commercial front since they came in but there’s been so much that has left so much to be desired - including softer stuff, like how employees (and often now ex-employees) feel about matters.

Folk with the best interests of the club at heart too, not just bitter ex-employees who have failed in their jobs.

SickBoy32
12-05-2024, 07:00 PM
Your second paragraph - I’ve heard similar and it goes right back to when Ron took over.

There are some numbers that can be made look good on the commercial front since they came in but there’s been so much that has left so much to be desired - including softer stuff, like how employees (and often now ex-employees) feel about matters.

Folk with the best interests of the club at heart too, not just bitter ex-employees who have failed in their jobs.

Would be very interested to hear an example or 2 from yourself or PB with regards to the bandits in charge at ER

MWHIBBIES
12-05-2024, 07:00 PM
id love to know how they have done that??? Please explain.

Seen it today, 60 minutes. No one left. A symbol of their regime.

Not In The Know
12-05-2024, 07:02 PM
Seen it today, 60 minutes. No one left. A symbol of their regime.


Nah. Explain?

tamig
12-05-2024, 07:14 PM
You need to waken up to what is going on here. Very concerning there are a few fans like yourself defending the owners and manager. Thankfully you are in the minority.

I could have sworn the owners have just brought another group on board so they can tap into their knowledge of how to run a football club successfully - specifically on the footballing front. I’ll defend the owners for seeking out this new partnership and look forward to seeing how it goes.

Stuart93
12-05-2024, 07:18 PM
The club is pretty soulless just now. I’ve never felt less connected to hibs since I started supporting them.

I canny be arsed trying to get the wee man into them

Not In The Know
12-05-2024, 07:18 PM
We have been pish for years. Look at the stats on relegation 3rd place, top six, euro etc. This pish this year is actually just run of the mill same nonsense.

If “they” relegate us. That would be ***in same as the last regime. They are not doing a great job that’s for sure, BUT they have way more hopes and aspirations than the previous regime. I hope they can pull it off.

tamig
12-05-2024, 07:21 PM
The club is pretty soulless just now. I’ve never felt less connected to hibs since I started supporting them.

I canny be arsed trying to get the wee man into them

You can’t have been supporting us that long then. I thought you were a bit older than that.

ChuckNor
12-05-2024, 07:22 PM
Ripped the absolute soul out of Easter Road.

Sell up and **** off please.

The worst thing the did was appoint Ben Kensell. That alone is the reason we are where we are.

If what I’m hearing is true then he is set to stay and will be for the foreseeable. Very dissapointing.

SickBoy32
12-05-2024, 07:25 PM
We have been pish for years. Look at the stats on relegation 3rd place, top six, euro etc. This pish this year is actually just run of the mill same nonsense.

If “they” relegate us. That would be ***in same as the last regime. They are not doing a great job that’s for sure, BUT they have way more hopes and aspirations than the previous regime. I hope they can pull it off.

The previous regime (whilst admittedly not without their own failings) totally revamped the stadium, steered the club clear of financial difficulties and built a training centre - and also won 3 major trophies in 27 years.

This mob after 6 years have ruined our football operational structure, wasted years of our time with their nonsensical moneyball *****, undone all the goodwill and buzz from the Scottish Cup win (we’ll be back at 9/10k STs for next year) and added a couple of tellys to the stadium. And they’ve tarted up a couple lounges.

Not a patch on the previous leadership, frauds the lot of them.
We will continue to suffer as long as these are running the club.

SickBoy32
12-05-2024, 07:26 PM
If what I’m hearing is true then he is set to stay and will be for the foreseeable. Very dissapointing.

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davym7062
12-05-2024, 07:26 PM
The previous regime (whilst absolutely not without their own failings) totally revamped the stadium, steered the club clear of financial difficulties and built a training centre - and also won 3 major trophies in 27 years.

This mob after 6 years have ruined our football operational structure, wasted years of our time with their nonsensical moneyball *****, undone all the goodwill and buzz from the Scottish Cup win (we’ll be back at 9/10k STs for next year) and added a couple of tellys to the stadium. And they’ve tarted up a couple lounges.

Not a patch on the previous leadership, frauds the lot of them.
We will continue to suffer as long as these are running the club.

this

Stuart93
12-05-2024, 07:28 PM
You can’t have been supporting us that long then. I thought you were a bit older than that.

31 years young

This doesn’t even feel like “ah we’re ***** the now”. Just don’t really feel like this is the hibs I supported just now.

Birthday caird pish & all that probably.

I won’t deny that personal circumstances haven’t played their part though

Chorley Hibee
12-05-2024, 07:32 PM
The worst thing the did was appoint Ben Kensell. That alone is the reason we are where we are.

If what I’m hearing is true then he is set to stay and will be for the foreseeable. Very dissapointing.

Then it's a relegation battle, an empty stadium, more disastrous accounts, and things getting even more toxic than they already are.

Strap yourself in.

Paulie Walnuts
12-05-2024, 07:34 PM
You can’t have been supporting us that long then. I thought you were a bit older than that.

I’ve had a season ticket for over two decades and gave it up this season. A lot of that is for the sort of reasons Stuart has outlined.

Theres no doubting we’ve had worse teams, but Hibs right now are absolutely soulless imo.

HibbyAndy
12-05-2024, 07:39 PM
Then it's a relegation battle, an empty stadium, more disastrous accounts, and things getting even more toxic than they already are.

Strap yourself in.

Aye but we are thriving off the pitch tho , Hospitality is through the roof , Who needs a team on the park when he's got behind the scenes sorted ? Aw aye and he's a really nice guy to chat tae

ChuckNor
12-05-2024, 07:46 PM
Then it's a relegation battle, an empty stadium, more disastrous accounts, and things getting even more toxic than they already are.

Strap yourself in.

Only passing on what I’ve heard from a source who told me LJ was getting punted well beforehand and who hasn’t steered me wrong since. There are going to be “changes” announced but Ben Kensell will not be one of them. The appointment of this man has been an absolute disaster.

ChuckNor
12-05-2024, 07:46 PM
Aye but we are thriving off the pitch tho , Hospitality is through the roof , Who needs a team on the park when he's got behind the scenes sorted ? Aw aye and he's a really nice guy to chat tae

Him and his wee buddies in hospitality will always have each other…

Not In The Know
12-05-2024, 08:03 PM
The previous regime (whilst admittedly not without their own failings) totally revamped the stadium, steered the club clear of financial difficulties and built a training centre - and also won 3 major trophies in 27 years.

This mob after 6 years have ruined our football operational structure, wasted years of our time with their nonsensical moneyball *****, undone all the goodwill and buzz from the Scottish Cup win (we’ll be back at 9/10k STs for next year) and added a couple of tellys to the stadium. And they’ve tarted up a couple lounges.

Not a patch on the previous leadership, frauds the lot of them.
We will continue to suffer as long as these are running the club.

Btw we are on the same page here. But listing infrastructure achievements as a plus kinda negates the chat folk are coming out with about the current stadium revamps.

it feels like we are within touching distance of some good but it doesn’t feel like we can make that final step at the moment. That is the most frustrating part of it.

GreenGray
12-05-2024, 08:24 PM
So much misplaced angst [emoji1787]

Care to explain mate? Who else is to blame?


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Halifaxhibby
12-05-2024, 08:40 PM
Not tonight eh? Plenty of good things have happened under their stewardship.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

He's here!
12-05-2024, 08:58 PM
Gray is coaching staff. Can't bin the others and not him.

Monty inherited him so he won't work with him again as part of his team (not least because Australia's the only place Monty will get work now). He's also probably done a better job as caretaker than the last three managers have done in their time at ER so we'd be daft to bin him. I'd be fine with him being given the job full time.

LeithMike
12-05-2024, 09:05 PM
Your second paragraph

There are some numbers that can be made look good on the commercial front since they came in

Keep hearing how we’ve improved on the commercial side but like you not convinced. Is commerce not essentially defined as buying and selling goods with a view to making a profit? We’ve ran up significant losses and debt so I find it hard to see how this has been a success. We might have nice corporate suites but when you go to the cinema do you go for nice seats or a good film? The club is rudderless. The managerial appointment defines your football club and even without the befit of hindsight., McInnes should should have been appointed on each of the last 3 occasions.

We clearly don’t want a strong manager who knows how to run a football club properly.


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Baldy Foghorn
13-05-2024, 05:45 AM
We're a busted flush. No leadership on or off pitch. A rudderless ship

JimBHibees
13-05-2024, 06:32 AM
Surprised you think that. In my opinion the Gordon’s have had no where near the criticism they deserve.

Think our fan base have been fairly sympathetic towards them.

Probably for an obvious reason

Forza Fred
13-05-2024, 06:45 AM
Probably for an obvious reason

Yep, sometimes I shake my head and wonder if some posters think there are hundreds of prospective owners who have bottomless pockets queueing up out there interested in spending a sizeable part of their fortune to buy a run of the mill football team in a fairly mundane league.

The saying, ‘be careful what you wish for’ springs to mind

CropleyWasGod
13-05-2024, 07:49 AM
Keep hearing how we’ve improved on the commercial side but like you not convinced. Is commerce not essentially defined as buying and selling goods with a view to making a profit? We’ve ran up significant losses and debt so I find it hard to see how this has been a success. We might have nice corporate suites but when you go to the cinema do you go for nice seats or a good film? The club is rudderless. The managerial appointment defines your football club and even without the befit of hindsight., McInnes should should have been appointed on each of the last 3 occasions.

We clearly don’t want a strong manager who knows how to run a football club properly.


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We no longer have that debt.

We incurred it to pay for the new facilities. It has been removed, so we essentially didn't pay for those facilities. And we are now enjoying the increased income from them.

And the debt repayments are no longer in our budget, so we have that money to spend elsewhere.

That bit is a success IMO.

As for the losses, that probably won't be the case this season.

Lago
13-05-2024, 07:55 AM
We no longer have that debt.

We incurred it to pay for the new facilities. It has been removed, so we essentially didn't pay for those facilities. And we are now enjoying the increased income from them.

And the debt repayments are no longer in our budget, so we have that money to spend elsewhere.

That bit is a success IMO.

As for the losses, that probably won't be the case this season.
Not the information certain on her want to hear.

joe breezy
13-05-2024, 07:58 AM
Yep, sometimes I shake my head and wonder if some posters think there are hundreds of prospective owners who have bottomless pockets queueing up out there interested in spending a sizeable part of their fortune to buy a run of the mill football team in a fairly mundane league.

The saying, ‘be careful what you wish for’ springs to mind

Be careful what you wish for - exactly my thoughts

Scottish football is not a money spinner
You won’t get into the EPL as you can if you buy a team like Wrexham.
Scottish football is a business where surviving takes a lot of work and some luck.

Scottish football is unattractive for anyone that wants their money to work for them.

It’s a crap investment and if you get anyone with dough willing to invest you’re in luck.

Good people learn - hopefully they are learning and with Black Knights looking at things I’m not overly worried right now.

I’d be more worried if the Gordons and Black Knights pulled out and said okay - we are listening to the fans - on you go.


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we are hibs
13-05-2024, 08:45 AM
be careful what you wish for... We might end up a complete shambles with folk that dont know how to run a football club.

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SickBoy32
13-05-2024, 08:49 AM
It’s a crap investment and if you get anyone with dough willing to invest you’re in luck.

Good people learn - hopefully they are learning and with Black Knights looking at things I’m not overly worried right now.

I’d be more worried if the Gordons and Black Knights pulled out and said okay - we are listening to the fans - on you go.


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You must be at it - we’re lucky to have our current owners? What the **** sorta thinking is that?

They’ve been a total disaster, pretty much since they replaced Dempster with that dafty Kensell.

Overseen our worst home defeat to Hearts in 25 years
Overseen our worst home defeat to Aberdeen in 39 years
Overseen our worst home defeat to St Mirren in 39 years
Signed (an absolutely brutal) player by mistake
Fielded an illegible player leading to us forfeiting a competitive match

Tarted up a couple of lounges and some folk think we’re lucky to have them 😂

This lot have set the club back YEARS - absolutely hopeless

JohnM1875
13-05-2024, 08:51 AM
be careful what you wish for... We might end up a complete shambles with folk that dont know how to run a football club.

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That’d be an improvement

Northernhibee
13-05-2024, 10:20 AM
You must be at it - we’re lucky to have our current owners? What the **** sorta thinking is that?

They’ve been a total disaster, pretty much since they replaced Dempster with that dafty Kensell.

Overseen our worst home defeat to Hearts in 25 years
Overseen our worst home defeat to Aberdeen in 39 years
Overseen our worst home defeat to St Mirren in 39 years
Signed (an absolutely brutal) player by mistake
Fielded an illegible player leading to us forfeiting a competitive match

Tarted up a couple of lounges and some folk think we’re lucky to have them 😂

This lot have set the club back YEARS - absolutely hopeless

I wouldn’t speak that highly of them.

Phil MaGlass
13-05-2024, 03:31 PM
What we need is the Gordons to take care of the hospitality side and get a real experienced DOF(Gordon Strachan?) in and a manager. Oh and sack NM immediately.

Hibees1973
14-05-2024, 09:29 AM
God what a mess they have made of things. Pity the new manager clearing this up, before even starting to fix things.

The Tubs
14-05-2024, 09:38 AM
A real mess would have us in a worse financial situation and being relegated. Thankfully this hasn't happened though the last three seasons have been missed opportunities.

Hopefully they are still as committed as they were before but have learned from their mistakes and are willing to get real help in on the football side.

dp00
14-05-2024, 09:48 AM
Should we read anything into the statement being from the Gordon family and not Ben ?

Maybe he is about to get bullet too


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Smartie
14-05-2024, 10:28 AM
Should we read anything into the statement being from the Gordon family and not Ben ?

Maybe he is about to get bullet too


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Interesting choice of words, for sure.