Fans Influence

[CJHibby]

Hibs fans berating the team and manager and having altercations with them after a late defeat doesn't benefit anyone. On Saturday we played well but got suckered at the death. The winning goal was under 14 level stuff but the supporters constant barracking of the team week in week out has in my opinion made Hibs as a team edgy for a very long time in the last throes of games. It's not easy to not be frustrated but continuing the way we are going will keep seeing the same happening..

[One Day Soon]

Hibs fans berating the team and manager and having altercations with them after a late defeat doesn't benefit anyone. On Saturday we played well but got suckered at the death. The winning goal was under 14 level stuff but the supporters constant barracking of the team week in week out has in my opinion made Hibs as a team edgy for a very long time in the last throes of games. It's not easy to not be frustrated but continuing the way we are going will keep seeing the same happening..

Just no.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Utter nonsense. The team keeps making the same mistakes time and time again, you can't blame the fans. You thought we played well on Saturday, I was there and don't agree with that

[CJHibby]

Me too. I thought we played well but lost a couple of really bad goals.

[HIBS NUTS]

I thought we played decent the first half, very poor the second, John Robertson on the radio said we played some good football.
However constantly conceding goals in the last minutes, fans find really infuriating, they can’t ever enjoy leads, as everyone knows what’s coming, and when it happens, they erupt in frustration.
We lack leadership both off and on the park.😔

[CJHibby]

'Everyone knows what's coming' is my point. We as fans expect something bad to happen..it is filtering through to the team..and it keeps happening. We supporters need to get behind the team and break this feeling cycle. Maybe try roaring them on to win by upping the singing or something and not losing it with the team/manager when we lose a game we probably deserved to win.

[Real Emerald]

Hibs fans berating the team and manager and having altercations with them after a late defeat doesn't benefit anyone. On Saturday we played well but got suckered at the death. The winning goal was under 14 level stuff but the supporters constant barracking of the team week in week out has in my opinion made Hibs as a team edgy for a very long time in the last throes of games. It's not easy to not be frustrated but continuing the way we are going will keep seeing the same happening..

Rubbish, he has absolutely no clue, going over to clap the fans was a mistake. Every team that puts in a season like Hibs have know the fans will be on their backs, it happens everywhere. We’ve capitulated all season and been beaten AGAIN by a team with a fraction of our resources.

Stop making excuses for this shambles.

[McD]

Hibs fans berating the team and manager and having altercations with them after a late defeat doesn't benefit anyone. On Saturday we played well but got suckered at the death. The winning goal was under 14 level stuff but the supporters constant barracking of the team week in week out has in my opinion made Hibs as a team edgy for a very long time in the last throes of games. It's not easy to not be frustrated but continuing the way we are going will keep seeing the same happening..


Me too. I thought we played well but lost a couple of really bad goals.



Were you agreeing with yourself? :confused:


The 2 posts in between clearly disagreed with your OP, so not sure who you were replying to

[B.H.F.C]

Me too. I thought we played well but lost a couple of really bad goals.

If it was a one off, fine. It’s been repeated multiple times.

You can give them all the encouragement in the world but when you have defenders incapable of doing the basics it makes not a single bit of difference. There was a decent backing up there in the circumstances, does nothing for them. Big backing at Motherwell, same thing applies. Big backing at home the week before against St Johnstone, same mistakes apply.

We’re just horrific defensively and it’s nothing to do with any influence from the stands.

[CJHibby]

I was replying to Baldy Foghorn, I was at the game too. I am not excusing Monty or the team but wish we could break this cycle of late capitulations. An old Man U or Celtic support 'expected' a late winner whereas we expect the opposite and it somehow induces exactly that. I think fans staying with the cause may help better.

[Greensunshine]

Ha ha it was only a matter of time before someone pointed the fingers in the fans direction!

Why not, everyone else has had the finger pointed at them!

Let’s be clear, there are players within our squad who are not good enough.

We have been found out with our poor recruitment.

I feel sorry for NM or the next managerial appointment because they most certainly won’t get a tune out of this lot that’s a certainty.

It’s time we had a proper cull. We all know what needs done. We can’t go on with those same players next season making the same mistakes, that would be madness and relegation would be the outcome.

[greenlex]

We were decent enough the first half but woefully short in the basics especially effort in the second. Fans expect mire and rightly so. It needs sorting. NM isn’t the man to do it. He needs to. Go sooner rather than later along with all and I mean all of the coaching staff along with the vast majority of the players. Effort should be a given and second half at the weekend it was nowhere to be seen on or off the pitch.

[easty]

I was replying to Baldy Foghorn, I was at the game too. I am not excusing Monty or the team but wish we could break this cycle of late capitulations. An old Man U or Celtic support 'expected' a late winner whereas we expect the opposite and it somehow induces exactly that. I think fans staying with the cause may help better.

There were fans who made the long journey up to Ross County for a bottom 6 game that holds no weight for Hibs. How much more do you want the fans to stay with the cause?

[CJHibby]

Monty went to applaud the fans for coming and was met with jeers. He was being courteous and you could see he was hurting too. We need to stick together even in defeat.

[easty]

Monty went to applaud the fans for coming and was met with jeers. He was being courteous and you could see he was hurting too. We need to stick together even in defeat.

Monty has been involved in football long enough to know what the reaction would be.

[Heisenberg]

Monty went to applaud the fans for coming and was met with jeers. He was being courteous and you could see he was hurting too. We need to stick together even in defeat.

Are you surprised that’s the response he got though? Aberdeen/Hearts fans would be exactly the same. Actually they’d probably have binned him already to be fair so the manager wouldn’t even be in this situation.

[CJHibby]

I think we played well enough to get a dignified silence in the response. Why don't we act 'bigger' than an Aberdeen or Hearts support. Players and managers will do/give even more for fans like that.

[Winston Ingram]

Hibs fans berating the team and manager and having altercations with them after a late defeat doesn't benefit anyone. On Saturday we played well but got suckered at the death. The winning goal was under 14 level stuff but the supporters constant barracking of the team week in week out has in my opinion made Hibs as a team edgy for a very long time in the last throes of games. It's not easy to not be frustrated but continuing the way we are going will keep seeing the same happening..

Any other suggestions of how groups of thousands of people display their dissatisfaction? A strongly worded email perhaps?

[CJHibby]

Were we that bad Monty and the team got pelters at the end??

[easty]

I think we played well enough to get a dignified silence in the response. Why don't we act 'bigger' than an Aberdeen or Hearts support. Players and managers will do/give even more for fans like that.

And if we'd got a draw the fans could have invited Monty in for a big group hug and a hip hip hooray.

[CJHibby]

A quick boo at f time is fine but no need for aggression and insults at the manager/players.

[McD]

I think we played well enough to get a dignified silence in the response. Why don't we act 'bigger' than an Aberdeen or Hearts support. Players and managers will do/give even more for fans like that.



Maybe the players/manager could give the fans something to cheer, rather than making a pigs ear of things most weeks. You know, like effort, goals, blocks, tackles, not making clanger after clanger

[BoomtownHibees]

Were we that bad Monty and the team got pelters at the end??

Yes

[NC1875]

Hibs fans berating the team and manager and having altercations with them after a late defeat doesn't benefit anyone. On Saturday we played well but got suckered at the death. The winning goal was under 14 level stuff but the supporters constant barracking of the team week in week out has in my opinion made Hibs as a team edgy for a very long time in the last throes of games. It's not easy to not be frustrated but continuing the way we are going will keep seeing the same happening..

Played well ? You must’ve watched a different game from me

[Hibby70]

Nobody, regardless of their choice of career deserves to have a grown adult shout and swear at them at their place of work.

Boo the team as a group but to finger point at an individual and telling him to **** off out of the club is not on, especially at such a close distance. Utter moron.

[we are hibs]

Drivel.

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[Real Emerald]

Were we that bad Monty and the team got pelters at the end??

No one is booing if we’ve finished 3rd in the league and sitting in the cup final as we’re just playing the season out. Put it into context though, we’ve failed on every front this season and have been constantly giving away goals. We’ve spent millions on our training facility, stadium, pitch and hospitality and we’ve recruited players way out of most other teams budgets especially in January. The manager is seemingly on some sort of review (who knows) and here we are getting turned over by Ross County AGAIN.

Despite all this Montgomery is still in post and the fans are now getting very annoyed and anxious about the situation. This is only going to get worse if no action is taken, it’s not going to go away.

[paddy1875]

A quick boo at f time is fine but no need for aggression and insults at the manager/players.

The manager and players deserve every bit of abuse thrown at them. We’ve been utterly brutal since he took charge. The same thing keeps repeating itself with this team.


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[tonyrougier123]

Hibs fans berating the team and manager and having altercations with them after a late defeat doesn't benefit anyone. On Saturday we played well but got suckered at the death. The winning goal was under 14 level stuff but the supporters constant barracking of the team week in week out has in my opinion made Hibs as a team edgy for a very long time in the last throes of games. It's not easy to not be frustrated but continuing the way we are going will keep seeing the same happening..

The team needs metal and backbone,and experienced leadership. Fans will be fans. The team needs to be better at defending and as a unit. It’s not a proper team,it had attacking qualities sure but it never looks a proper a team front to back and that’s what gets the edgy support cause we know we are prone to concede far too often.

[Brizo]

Hibs fans berating the team and manager and having altercations with them after a late defeat doesn't benefit anyone. On Saturday we played well but got suckered at the death. The winning goal was under 14 level stuff but the supporters constant barracking of the team week in week out has in my opinion made Hibs as a team edgy for a very long time in the last throes of games. It's not easy to not be frustrated but continuing the way we are going will keep seeing the same happening..

If you think we played well then your expectations of what constitutes a good Hibs performance and mine are miles apart.

To blame the fans who have turned up in huge numbers to ER and also travelled away in huge numbers is nonsense. Montgomery should have read the room or read the support and not tried to engage with fans who had traveled hundreds of miles and paid a lot of money to witness that woeful performance.

The problem isn't players getting barracked for poor performances which is something that's happened throughout my nearly 60 years of watching Hibs. The problem is people like you whose expectations are so low and who are so willing to accept mediocrity that you view saturdays performance as playing well.

[chrisski33]

Admin just close this thread. The fans are not to blame for our shambles nor at fault for letting their anger known at full time

[Trinity Hibee]

I think I’ve seen it all now.

[matty_f]

I think I’ve seen it all now.

Really? Have you seen a man eat his own head?

[Trinity Hibee]

Really? Have you seen a man eat his own head?

You got me

[matty_f]

You got me

It's a film quote mate (Team America)... :greengrin

[Trinity Hibee]

It's a film quote mate (Team America)... :greengrin

Wooshhh

[Baldy Foghorn]

I was replying to Baldy Foghorn, I was at the game too. I am not excusing Monty or the team but wish we could break this cycle of late capitulations. An old Man U or Celtic support 'expected' a late winner whereas we expect the opposite and it somehow induces exactly that. I think fans staying with the cause may help better.

The fans in Dingwall didn't cause Hibs to lose another late goal though

[Baldy Foghorn]

If you are saying the end of game stuff was embarrassing, Monty should have been nowhere near the support. Although in your opening post you were blaming fans for causing players to lose late goals as they weren't roaring the team on. I'm confused.

If the team tried harder the backing would follow. Many are hacked off at the moment

[Kojock]

Montgomery should have read the room or read the support and not tried to engage with fans who had traveled hundreds of miles and paid a lot of money to witness that woeful performance.

Exactly!! WTF was Monty thinking off. I was actually berating Monty at the end of the game for putting the players in that position. It was only ever going to end badly with players reacting and Rocky having to be pulled away. The fans reactions were due to having to watch a team underachieving for a full season not just the one game. Monty needs to go ASAP.

[Wheat Hound]

If you are saying the end of game stuff was embarrassing, Monty should have been nowhere near the support. Although in your opening post you were blaming fans for causing players to lose late goals as they weren't roaring the team on. I'm confused.

If the team tried harder the backing would follow. Many are hacked off at the moment

Exactly!

I was there too and just thought it was weird and awkward at the end with Monty standing looking blankly and applauding robotically at a group of deeply frustrated fans who had just seen their team capitulate late in a game for the umpteenth time. I really can't see how the bland and dull persona presented in every interview can be transformed behind closed doors into an inpsirational and motivating leader.

[Pretty Boy]

Without directly commenting on the OP I did think it was quite interesting watching the Man Utd fans last night.

They get the 'plastics', 'gloryhunters' etc etc stuff thrown at them but it was quite amazing watching them outsing the palace fans at 4-0 down and then giving the players a great reception post match.

I suppose it's incomparable to Hibs situation. They have all but hit rock bottom now (by their standards and where they were only a decade or so ago) whilst we are just a wee bit worse than is usual for us. You often get that gallows humour/support; the Aberdeen fans were great as we rattled 6 past them last season and I've been in Hibs supports that have done similar in the past as well.

Maybe when you are just a bit rubbish it's easier to criticise and get really critical but when the situation is almost beyond help you just accept it and show a bit defiance?

[flash]

It's ludicrous to suggest that it's in any way the fault of the supporters what has happened on the pitch this, or any other season.

Having said that there is a toxicity prevalent amongst a decent percentage of our fanbase which rears its ugly head at times like this.

I don't think for a second that the players aren't trying and that should be the only time that the abuse reaches the levels it seems to regularly.

I am not talking about people on this forum more other social media channels and in person at the stadium.

The amount of personal abuse dished out is totally over the top at times and can't possibly be of any benefit to anybody.

[matty_f]

It's ludicrous to suggest that it's in any way the fault of the supporters what has happened on the pitch this, or any other season.

Having said that there is a toxicity prevalent amongst a decent percentage of our fanbase which rears its ugly head at times like this.

I don't think for a second that the players aren't trying and that should be the only time that the abuse reaches the levels it seems to regularly.

I am not talking about people on this forum more other social media channels and in person at the stadium.

The amount of personal abuse dished out is totally over the top at times and can't possibly be of any benefit to anybody.

I spoke to couple of fellow “older supporters” about this last week, and without getting misty eyed about times gone by as if our own players used to be immune from abuse (Joe Tortolano would have something to say if anyone claimed that), it certainly used to be the case that opposition players got it far tighter from the Hibs support than our own team did.

It’s the other way around now, i think. Some folk appear to just live for abusing players who, really, are out there doing their best for us.

It seems incredibly destructive and self-defeating to hammer your own players.

[flash]

I spoke to couple of fellow “older supporters” about this last week, and without getting misty eyed about times gone by as if our own players used to be immune from abuse (Joe Tortolano would have something to say if anyone claimed that), it certainly used to be the case that opposition players got it far tighter from the Hibs support than our own team did.

It’s the other way around now, i think. Some folk appear to just live for abusing players who, really, are out there doing their best for us.

It seems incredibly destructive and self-defeating to hammer your own players.

It has always happened as you rightly say but it's definitely much worse now.

In years gone by you might have had a wee boo at the end of the game then went home and got on with your life.

Nowadays social media provides a vehicle to perpetuate the abuse to a point where I never read the comments after anything the club puts on social media.

A case in point; the club wished Josh Campbell a happy birthday on its Facebook page. Surely nobody could be triggered by a young player who always knocks his pan in and actually supports Hibs simply getting a year older.

One of the first comments was along the lines of "make sure he doesn't celebrate his next birthday at the club."

A touch of class.

[Itsnoteasy]

I was replying to Baldy Foghorn, I was at the game too. I am not excusing Monty or the team but wish we could break this cycle of late capitulations. An old Man U or Celtic support 'expected' a late winner whereas we expect the opposite and it somehow induces exactly that. I think fans staying with the cause may help better.

Struggling to see how you can compare us with Man U & Celtic.

[flash]

Struggling to see how you can compare us with Man U & Celtic.

Exactly.

Have you seen the state of Man United?

[Keith_M]

....You often get that gallows humour/support; the Aberdeen fans were great as we rattled 6 past them last season and I've been in Hibs supports that have done similar in the past as well.

Maybe when you are just a bit rubbish it's easier to criticise and get really critical but when the situation is almost beyond help you just accept it and show a bit defiance?


My first ever game at Celtc Park was an end-of-season, 6-0 drubbing. We were really terrible but the supporters didn't go crazy.

When we were 3-0 down, we started singing "we're going to win 4-3", and the song was then modified after the fourth and fifth goals.

Although, TBF, at 6-0 we did just slink off back to the supporters buses.