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Exuberance1875
04-05-2024, 08:51 PM
Beggars belief how he avoids criticism week in, week out.

We concede so many goals with him in the side. Offers so little going forward, looks massively uncomfortable on the ball and rarely goes past a man. Hopeless defensively, spends majority of the time pointing at other players.

If he’s starting right back for Hibs next season we are toiling.

We are quick enough to slate everyone else, he deserves it just as much as any, constantly out of position.

THESHIP
04-05-2024, 08:55 PM
The only show he ever puts on is a s*** show

Northernhibee
04-05-2024, 08:58 PM
A massive upgrade on Lewis Miller tbf.

IberianHibernian
04-05-2024, 08:59 PM
I think he`s still not at 100% after his long period out but I still rate him very highly and hope to see him wearing the green for many years more . One of our few players who every team in our league outwith OF would happily sign .

PineBarrens
04-05-2024, 09:01 PM
Said for years he's not very good. Looked good when he came back but was hardly replacing anyone special. Another I wouldn't care if he was never seen again.

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LaMotta
04-05-2024, 09:05 PM
Beggars belief how he avoids criticism week in, week out.

We concede so many goals with him in the side. Offers so little going forward, looks massively uncomfortable on the ball and rarely goes past a man. Hopeless defensively, spends majority of the time pointing at other players.

If he’s starting right back for Hibs next season we are toiling.

We are quick enough to slate everyone else, he deserves it just as much as any, constantly out of position.

I have to agree with you, he's a hard working but decidedly average player. Occasionally pulls a 7 out of 10 performance out the bag which seems to have been enough for people to rate him over the last few dismal seasons.

truehibernian
04-05-2024, 09:07 PM
Whole new back line is required but CC and LM are decent players - I’ve often wondered what Lewis would be like as a centre mid in the Marvin mould - he’s got the energy and physicality - but neither are players I’d be moving on that’s for sure. The problem is midfield and central defence - get that sorted first in summer. Lewis is a spoiler and grafts - I think he’d be a decent midfielder if coached well.

LaMotta
04-05-2024, 09:09 PM
A massive upgrade on Lewis Miller tbf.

I think Miller is a more inconsistent and his performances fluctuate more. At his best Miller has put in a better performance than Cadden ever has. However when Miler is bad then he is pretty bad. Cadden hovers somewhere in the middle in an ocean of mediocrity.

Northernhibee
04-05-2024, 09:10 PM
I think Miller is a more inconsistent and his performances fluctuate more. At his best Miller has put in a better performance than Cadden ever has. However when Miler is bad then he is pretty bad. Cadden hovers somewhere in the middle in an ocean of mediocrity.

Completely disagree, Miller has the attitude of Porteous but the ability of Michael Hart.

LaMotta
04-05-2024, 09:16 PM
Completely disagree, Miller has the attitude of Porteous but the ability of Michael Hart.

I completely disagree with you. End of last season for example he was brilliant in the 4-2 win v Celtic, Cadden has never come close to a performance like that IMO. There have been several other very good performances from Miller. He's also had a few shockers though. Miller is 4 years younger than Cadden so he has room for improvement. Whether he does remains to be seen.

supermcginn
04-05-2024, 09:16 PM
Completely disagree, Miller has the attitude of Porteous but the ability of Michael Hart.

Agreed, Miller is a proper huddie and I would be quite happy for him to be away at the end of the season.

Smartie
04-05-2024, 09:16 PM
I like Cadden.

He definitely has a defensive frailty that gets exposed at times, especially when we expect our fullbacks to get high up the park, but I like his pace and attacking intent and feel like we need to find a way to accommodate it rather than eject a good player.

He’s one of only about 3 players I’d definitely be keeping.

JimBHibees
04-05-2024, 09:18 PM
Beggars belief how he avoids criticism week in, week out.

We concede so many goals with him in the side. Offers so little going forward, looks massively uncomfortable on the ball and rarely goes past a man. Hopeless defensively, spends majority of the time pointing at other players.

If he’s starting right back for Hibs next season we are toiling.

We are quick enough to slate everyone else, he deserves it just as much as any, constantly out of position.

He has been excellent since he came back

mcohibs
04-05-2024, 09:19 PM
Agreed, Miller is a proper huddie and I would be quite happy for him to be away at the end of the season.

Miller is the least of our worries, in fact he’s one of our better players. Had some great performances in a Hibs jersey. Needs to be more consistent yes (so does our whole team) but he’s a solid player IMO.

JimBHibees
04-05-2024, 09:20 PM
The only show he ever puts on is a s*** show

Not seen many Hibs games?

JimBHibees
04-05-2024, 09:20 PM
Miller is the least of our worries, in fact he’s one of our better players. Had some great performances in a Hibs jersey. Needs to be more consistent yes (so does our whole team) but he’s a solid player IMO.

He is never available

CapitalGreen
04-05-2024, 09:20 PM
He has been excellent since he came back

No he hasn’t, the only player who has been excellent with any consistency is Maolida.

Exuberance1875
04-05-2024, 09:21 PM
A massive upgrade on Lewis Miller tbf.

Both as equally poor as each other. The fact these two are considered decent players show you where we are at.

David Murphy and Steven Whittaker weren’t considered upgrades on anyone because they were good enough themselves.

Lancs Harp
04-05-2024, 09:22 PM
A massive upgrade on Lewis Miller tbf.

Both not good enough. One cant defend the other is raw beyond belief. If we want to move forward neither would be starting.

darwenhibby
04-05-2024, 09:23 PM
I see a player in Miller
It would allow Cadden to move into a right side midfield position,
Which I think is Chris Cadden’s strongest position

Rick Rude
04-05-2024, 09:23 PM
Cadden is a wing back. Not good enough defensively to be a good right back, not good enough attacking to be a good winger. Kinda alright at both.

Exuberance1875
04-05-2024, 09:24 PM
He has been excellent since he came back

Clubs massively underachieved since he’s been a regular in our starting line up

tamig
04-05-2024, 09:24 PM
Beggars belief how he avoids criticism week in, week out.

We concede so many goals with him in the side. Offers so little going forward, looks massively uncomfortable on the ball and rarely goes past a man. Hopeless defensively, spends majority of the time pointing at other players.

If he’s starting right back for Hibs next season we are toiling.

We are quick enough to slate everyone else, he deserves it just as much as any, constantly out of position.

He’s been very good since he came back into the side. I can only assume you’ve not seen many of the games he’s played lately. He’s never been the greatest defensively but he’s offered plenty going forward since his return. Absolute nonsense of an OP.

LaMotta
04-05-2024, 09:24 PM
No he hasn’t, the only player who has been excellent with any consistency is Maolida.

Exactly this:agree:

Cadden winning player of the year during the Maloney ****show season summed just how absolutely brutal we were. Not great defensively, rarely assists or scores going forward. He's not bad and he wouldn't be the first out the door, but we need better IMO.

truehibernian
04-05-2024, 09:25 PM
Both not good enough. One cant defend the other is raw beyond belief. If we want to move forward neither would be starting.

What if we had two really good dependable centre halves when they don’t cut out the cross ?

JimBHibees
04-05-2024, 09:26 PM
Clubs massively underachieved since he’s been a regular in our starting line up

Just think he has been very good since he came back. Definitely can be better defensively

LaMotta
04-05-2024, 09:27 PM
Cadden is a wing back. Not good enough defensively to be a good right back, not good enough attacking to be a good winger. Kinda alright at both.

:agree:


He’s been very good since he came back into the side. I can only assume you’ve not seen many of the games he’s played lately. He’s never been the greatest defensively but he’s offered plenty going forward since his return. Absolute nonsense of an OP.

Very Good? He's scored once in a defeat. And he has no assists. There was a point today where he played a simple ten yard pass straight to a RC player. These descriptions of very good and excellent totally baffle me.

Lancs Harp
04-05-2024, 09:28 PM
What if we had two really good dependable centre halves when they don’t cut out the cross ?

Well to be honest mate the entire back line isnt good enough. Id include Obita in that too. I cant remember another time when i wouldnt be bothered if the entire starting eleven was replaced.

Exuberance1875
04-05-2024, 09:29 PM
He’s been very good since he came back into the side. I can only assume you’ve not seen many of the games he’s played lately. He’s never been the greatest defensively but he’s offered plenty going forward since his return. Absolute nonsense of an OP.

Been at almost every game this season thanks.

Difference of opinion of course, won’t find me calling you a nonsense of a poster. However, if you think players like him are good enough to get Hibs where they should be, we must be watching a different sport entirely.

CapitalGreen
04-05-2024, 09:31 PM
He’s been very good since he came back into the side. I can only assume you’ve not seen many of the games he’s played lately. He’s never been the greatest defensively but he’s offered plenty going forward since his return. Absolute nonsense of an OP.

Has he really been very good? Caught under the ball for Saints goal last week and caught on his heels for County’s winner today.

LaMotta
04-05-2024, 09:31 PM
Well to be honest mate the entire back line isnt good enough. Id include Obita in that too. I cant remember another time when i wouldnt be bothered if the entire starting eleven was replaced.

:agree: Obita getting OTT plaudits this year as well. A sign of how poor we've been that he seems to be popular choice for POTY.

Exuberance1875
04-05-2024, 09:31 PM
Has he really been very good? Caught under the ball for Saints goal last week and caught on his heels for County’s winner today.

This.

Smartie
04-05-2024, 09:36 PM
:agree: Obita getting OTT plaudits this year as well. A sign of how poor we've been that he seems to be popular choice for POTY.

I’m not as sold on Obita as many seem to be. Yes, he’s had some good games but he’s also had a few stinkers.

I much prefer Cadden.

LaMotta
04-05-2024, 09:42 PM
I’m not as sold on Obita as many seem to be. Yes, he’s had some good games but he’s also had a few stinkers.

I much prefer Cadden.

I prefer Obita but don't think either are as good as some make out. Maolida is the one player that's get pass marks this season for me.

Smartie
04-05-2024, 09:53 PM
I prefer Obita but don't think either are as good as some make out. Maolida is the one player that's get pass marks this season for me.

You’re a hard man to please.

Maolida gets top marks.

Cadden gets pass marks, as does Obita tbf (even if I’ve just criticised him), NMW for his limited number of games and probably ALF. Over the piece, maybe Joe Newell too. An argument could be made for Marshall.

A few players there who have only featured fleetingly or been available for part of the season.

The rest? Nowhere near it, really, which is why it has turned out to be such a poor season.

I actually fear what this shower would / will look like without Maolida.

LaMotta
04-05-2024, 09:54 PM
You’re a hard man to please.

Maolida gets top marks.

Cadden gets pass marks, as does Obita tbf (even if I’ve just criticised him), NMW for his limited number of games and probably ALF. Over the piece, maybe Joe Newell too. An argument could be made for Marshall.

A few players there who have only featured fleetingly or been available for part of the season.

The rest? Nowhere near it, really, which is why it has turned out to be such a poor season.

I actually fear what this shower would / will look like without Maolida.

I would agree with you on NMW and ALF actually, fair points!

ancient hibee
04-05-2024, 10:14 PM
Obita has put in some good crosses but Cadden seldom does. Neither are much good at stopping wide players getting the ball in.