Monty - Enough’s enough

[BILLYHIBS]

Yep - haven't heard one player slagging him off.
Didn’t say ‘ slagging him off’ no one has come out and said he is doing a ‘ great job’

I take the point that once the players cross the white line there is little he can do

Though he can affect things with his crap team selections and weird substitutions

[Winston Ingram]

Point missed completely.

It's not about him getting stick. It's about the forensic analysis and subsequent ridiculing of everything he says.

The complete inability, or unwillingness, of so many people to recognise either nuance or context.

Point wasn't missed at all. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with that. I'm disagreeing with your statement that Mowbray or Lennon wouldn't get that stick.

If they performed as badly as he had in their first season, they'd be getting exactly the same.

[jeffers]

He didn't come in before the window, and had no time with the team before the start of the season. Its a pretty good excuse tbf. I'm looking forward to what he brings in over the summer.

True but that’s not what he said and sorry but if he has been unable to get across his message after all but 3 league games I have zero faith in him being able to do so now.

[Jones28]

Didn’t say ‘ slagging him off’ no one has come out and said he is doing a ‘ great job’

I take the point that once the players cross the white line there is little he can do

Though he can affect things with his crap team selections and weird substitutions

Because if they did they'd be - rightly - labelled a moron and a liar. :confused:

[jeffers]

Yep - haven't heard one player slagging him off.

C’mon B how often do you hear players coming out publicly slagging managers ? They didn’t even do it with the previous manager. It means zip. And fwiw I’m aware of more than a few players who are far from complimentary about Monty.

[flash]

Point wasn't missed at all. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with that. I'm disagreeing with your statement that Mowbray or Lennon wouldn't get that stick.

If they performed as badly as he had in their first season, they'd be getting exactly the same.

Yes and that would be just as unfair as it is to NM. That's my point. It's not exclusive to the current manager.

[Brightside]

True but that’s not what he said and sorry but if he has been unable to get across his message after all but 3 league games I have zero faith in him being able to do so now.

Mid-season is anything between start of season and end of season. :greengrin

[Brightside]

C’mon B how often do you hear players coming out publicly slagging managers ? They didn’t even do it with the previous manager. It means zip. And fwiw I’m aware of more than a few players who are far from complimentary about Monty.

I'm aware of a few who really like him.

[BILLYHIBS]

C’mon B how often do you hear players coming out publicly slagging managers ? They didn’t even do it with the previous manager. It means zip. And fwiw I’m aware of more than a few players who are far from complimentary about Monty.
I can imagine ….substitutions that invariably weaken the team Jair before Boyle at Ibrox Hanlon left kicking his heels on the bench St Johnstone at home when we needed an experienced centre half as cover for injury F#cking about with our centre backs half way through the second half of games Players refusing to sign contracts if he is still here ( hearsay) though I understand they have now signed

[Brightside]

I can imagine ….substitutions that invariably weaken the team Jair before Boyle at Ibrox Hanlon left kicking his heels on the bench St Johnstone at home when we needed an experienced centre half as cover for injury F#cking about with our centre backs half way through the second half of games Players refusing to sign contracts if he is still here ( hearsay) though I understand they have now signed

I don't believe Rocky has a new deal. Newell has an extension.

[jeffers]

Mid-season is anything between start of season and end of season. :greengrin

That made me laugh. :greengrin

[bingo70]

I'm aware of a few who really like him.

Too much is made of players liking managers or disliking them.

We’ve all had bosses we thought were ********s at times I’m sure, doesn’t stop you doing your job. The idea there’ll also be a blanket opinion across the squad with them all thinking the same seems unlikely to me.

I don’t doubt there’ll be some that like him, some that don’t and there’s probably some who think he’s a bit of a fanny but alright really.

I’ve heard one or two don’t have a great relationship with him but that’s not necessarily a bad thing, he’s maybe just pushing them out their comfort zone and they don’t like it, in reality nobody knows.

What’s important is what happens on the park and unfortunately that’s where he is failing.

[BILLYHIBS]

I don't believe Rocky has a new deal. Newell has an extension.
👍

[Paulie Walnuts]

Too much is made of players liking managers or disliking them.

We’ve all had bosses we thought were ********s at times I’m sure, doesn’t stop you doing your job. The idea there’ll also be a blanket opinion across the squad with them all thinking the same seems unlikely to me.

I don’t doubt there’ll be some that like him, some that don’t and there’s probably some who think he’s a bit of a fanny but alright really.

I’ve heard one or two don’t have a great relationship with him but that’s not necessarily a bad thing, he’s maybe just pushing them out their comfort zone and they don’t like it, in reality nobody knows.

What’s important is what happens on the park and unfortunately that’s where he is failing.

:agree:

[One Day Soon]

Mid-season is anything between start of season and end of season. :greengrin

Amid the divided opinion on NM, and the generally miserable period we have been and continue to be in, that post is outstanding. Top marks.

[Unseen work]

I can imagine ….substitutions that invariably weaken the team Jair before Boyle at Ibrox Hanlon left kicking his heels on the bench St Johnstone at home when we needed an experienced centre half as cover for injury F#cking about with our centre backs half way through the second half of games Players refusing to sign contracts if he is still here ( hearsay) though I understand they have now signed

Who isn’t signing a contract with him being here?

[Winston Ingram]

Who isn’t signing a contract with him being here?

There's been chat that Newall won't be signing the ext he's been offered

[Unseen work]

There's been chat that Newall won't be signing the ext he's been offered

And it’s believed to be solely down to Monty? Or just he’s getting a bit tired of Hibs and wanting a change, probably back down south?

Got him for another year anyway so when it expires he’ll be 32.

[bingo70]

There's been chat that Newall won't be signing the ext he's been offered

FWIW, I was told he wasn’t rushing to sign it because he didn’t have a great relationship with the manager and he was trying to hold off to see what was going to happen. It was never the case if Monty stayed he wouldn’t. It’s not as black and white as that, there’ll be other factors to consider.

Might also be bollocks.

[GreenCastle]

FWIW, I was told he wasn’t rushing to sign it because he didn’t have a great relationship with the manager and he was trying to hold off to see what was going to happen. It was never the case if Monty stayed he wouldn’t. It’s not as black and white as that, there’ll be other factors to consider.

Might also be bollocks.

Newell is also really good mates with Doidge and if Doidge has moved on I would be surprised if Newell moves sooner rather than later.

At same time can’t see anyone else paying more for him - but if a club down south offers more ££ he may think that’s his final big pay before he heads toward later stages of career.

[B.H.F.C]

Newell is also really good mates with Doidge and if Doidge has moved on I would be surprised if Newell moves sooner rather than later.

At same time can’t see anyone else paying more for him - but if a club down south offers more ££ he may think that’s his final big pay before he heads toward later stages of career.

At his age, he’s most likely to go where the cash is IMO. Whether he has anyone that is going to be offering him a significant increase on what he can get at Hibs, I’m no so sure.

[Winston Ingram]

FWIW, I was told he wasn’t rushing to sign it because he didn’t have a great relationship with the manager and he was trying to hold off to see what was going to happen. It was never the case if Monty stayed he wouldn’t. It’s not as black and white as that, there’ll be other factors to consider.

Might also be bollocks.

Pretty much what I heard as well

[Unseen work]

Interesting he doesn’t have the best relationship with him considering he starts every week.

Must be a disagreement about tactics or something

[flash]

Interesting he doesn’t have the best relationship with him considering he starts every week.

Must be a disagreement about tactics or something

Even more interesting that he is captain.

[silverhibee]

There's been chat that Newall won't be signing the ext he's been offered

Monty in then.

[Smartie]

Interesting he doesn’t have the best relationship with him considering he starts every week.

Must be a disagreement about tactics or something

If I’d had to play half a season in a central midfield pairing with Dylan Levitt in a 442 then I’d probably take some convincing that the manager knew what he was doing.

It could be strongly argued that he hung Newell out to dry.

[Heisenberg]

If I’d had to play half a season in a central midfield pairing with Dylan Levitt in a 442 then I’d probably take some convincing that the manager knew what he was doing.

It could be strongly argued that he hung Newell out to dry.

I’d argue Joe has been even worse after the change in formation. Posted missing in key games before the split.

[Brightside]

And it’s believed to be solely down to Monty? Or just he’s getting a bit tired of Hibs and wanting a change, probably back down south?

Got him for another year anyway so when it expires he’ll be 32.

Think its only a further year extension - but we will see if / when announced. He's not long moved into a nice house just outside Musselburgh and he appears pretty settled up here. Id imagine he'd be more pissed off with some of our fans on socials than he is with the manager (who plays him every week)

[Lago]

Pretty much what I heard as well
Perhaps he just wants a change from Scottish football and the boredom that comes with playing each team 4 times in the league.

[Unseen work]

Think its only a further year extension - but we will see if / when announced. He's not long moved into a nice house just outside Musselburgh and he appears pretty settled up here. Id imagine he'd be more pissed off with some of our fans on socials than he is with the manager (who plays him every week)

👍🏻

Point in case re our fans when he posted a nice photo and message of Lewis and Paul only for some fan to start slagging him off. Joe rightly replied.

Have you heard any update about Malky Mackay and being technical director? Was listening to a podcast there and he mentioned us as an example along with Celtic - found it weird he mentioned us first and not the normal ‘Celtic and rangers’ or a team he’s managed like Ross County.

[Winston Ingram]

Think its only a further year extension - but we will see if / when announced. He's not long moved into a nice house just outside Musselburgh and he appears pretty settled up here. Id imagine he'd be more pissed off with some of our fans on socials than he is with the manager (who plays him every week)

Cos it suits your argument?

[Brightside]

Cos it suits your argument?

Yep - thats how debate works.

But I'm not arguing - its been a poor season. I'm hopeful next season will be better. If its not I'm sure the club will move on to other options.

[JimBHibees]

Monty in then.

😄

[Since452]

Just heard an interview with him on the radio talking about moving players on in the summer. I've a horrible feeling he's going to be here next season.

[Donegal Hibby]

If I’d had to play half a season in a central midfield pairing with Dylan Levitt in a 442 then I’d probably take some convincing that the manager knew what he was doing.

It could be strongly argued that he hung Newell out to dry.

Personally I wouldn't be that bothered if he doesn't sign . He's already shown he goes missing in games even with NMW and Marcondes in midfield with him .

[jeffers]

Just heard an interview with him on the radio talking about moving players on in the summer. I've a horrible feeling he's going to be here next season.

I wouldn’t read anything into that. I’m still of the opinion they haven’t made a decision so from his point of view I wouldn’t expect him to be saying anything else. I F’ing hope that’s the case !

[Brightside]

I wouldn’t read anything into that. I’m still of the opinion they haven’t made a decision so from his point of view I wouldn’t expect him to be saying anything else. I F’ing hope that’s the case !

I'm very confident he is actively working on new players and has in fact signed a few up already. Prepare yourself.

[jeffers]

I'm very confident he is actively working on new players and has in fact signed a few up already. Prepare yourself.

Gonnae no dae that.

[Donegal Hibby]

Just heard an interview with him on the radio talking about moving players on in the summer. I've a horrible feeling he's going to be here next season.

Still think if we were going to move him on we'd had already done it . What would be the point dragging it out like this?.

One of the main positives though in keeping him is he's in a better position than a new manager in who needs moved on now .

[Unseen work]

I'm very confident he is actively working on new players and has in fact signed a few up already. Prepare yourself.

Go on then, tell us who 😅

[Greensunshine]

Just been reading comments from NM regards going over to the away support ( Ross County ) and taking the applause from the fans something he makes sure him and his players do win,lose or draw.

Gotta respect the guy for this, I wasn’t up there last week so I can only imagine the level of abuse that was thrown his way.
He apparently didn’t actually hear anything……cough! cough!

Part of me would love to see him given the chance to turn things around and I won’t kid anyone into believing I’m in the know one way or another but the easy thing for him to do would be to hide and maybe even walk away from it all but nope, he’s hanging on in there and if we’re going to get out of this terrible mess, that’s the kind of toughness required.

Fair play!

[Winston Ingram]

Yep - thats how debate works.

But I'm not arguing - its been a poor season. I'm hopeful next season will be better. If its not I'm sure the club will move on to other options.

Debate works when you explain your thinking. How’s Hibs fans behaviour on socials going to be more of an influence than the total farce that has been served up on the pitch this season?

He strikes me as a very rational guy who’s got massive understanding and passion for the club who I’ve no doubt completely understands why fans are rightly raging.

I’m just interested to why you think behaviour on Social Media would piss him off more. He may have been picked every week but there’s thousands of examples of players getting picked and being pissed off because they think the manager is pish.

[Winston Ingram]

If I’d had to play half a season in a central midfield pairing with Dylan Levitt in a 442 then I’d probably take some convincing that the manager knew what he was doing.

It could be strongly argued that he hung Newell out to dry.

I forgot about that belter. Putting him in 2 man midfield with a boy that can’t run🥴

[jeffers]

Just been reading comments from NM regards going over to the away support ( Ross County ) and taking the applause from the fans something he makes sure him and his players do win,lose or draw.

Gotta respect the guy for this, I wasn’t up there last week so I can only imagine the level of abuse that was thrown his way.
He apparently didn’t actually hear anything……cough! cough!

Part of me would love to see him given the chance to turn things around and I won’t kid anyone into believing I’m in the know one way or another but the easy thing for him to do would be to hide and maybe even walk away from it all but nope, he’s hanging on in there and if we’re going to get out of this terrible mess, that’s the kind of toughness required.

Fair play!

How many managers walk away from a job ? He’s uprooted his family from Oz, bought a house, enrolled his kids in an expensive school. He’s hardly going to be walk away. He’ll either stick it out until he turns it round or the club decide enough is enough and pay him off.

[Brightside]

Debate works when you explain your thinking. How’s Hibs fans behaviour on socials going to be more of an influence than the total farce that has been served up on the pitch this season?

He strikes me as a very rational guy who’s got massive understanding and passion for the club who I’ve no doubt completely understands why fans are rightly raging.

I’m just interested to why you think behaviour on Social Media would piss him off more. He may have been picked every week but there’s thousands of examples of players getting picked and being pissed off because they think the manager is pish.

There is zero evidence that he doesn’t get on with the manager. Despite the rumour. There is plentiful evidence that he has “fans” bad mouthing him on Twitter after every post.

Who are the 1000s of examples of players picked every week that think their manager is pish? We probably don’t have time for 1000 so let’s just have a few so it’s not just hyperbole.

[Donegal Hibby]

Just been reading comments from NM regards going over to the away support ( Ross County ) and taking the applause from the fans something he makes sure him and his players do win,lose or draw.

Gotta respect the guy for this, I wasn’t up there last week so I can only imagine the level of abuse that was thrown his way.
He apparently didn’t actually hear anything……cough! cough!

Part of me would love to see him given the chance to turn things around and I won’t kid anyone into believing I’m in the know one way or another but the easy thing for him to do would be to hide and maybe even walk away from it all but nope, he’s hanging on in there and if we’re going to get out of this terrible mess, that’s the kind of toughness required.

Fair play!

Good post . He certainly doesn't disappear the same way Clement does that's for sure . :greengrin
Guys got good character about him . Hopefully he can turn things around.

[jimbob07]

Good post . He certainly doesn't disappear the same way Clement does that's for sure . :greengrin
Guys got good character about him . Hopefully he can turn things around.

100% get behind the boy for goodness sake

[Paulie Walnuts]

I wouldn’t read anything into that. I’m still of the opinion they haven’t made a decision so from his point of view I wouldn’t expect him to be saying anything else. I F’ing hope that’s the case !

:agree:

He’s got another 2 years on his deal. Until he gets sacked, he’ll be talking as if he’ll be here for the remainder of the 2 years.

I’ve still no doubt he’ll get sacked. If there’s a review of his performance/position then it’s the only logical outcome.

[Crab apple]

Reading his interview in the Evening News it certainly sounds like he feels he'll be here next season. What I find worrying is that he says people are saying our January transfer business was the strongest ever. He must have forgotten the bit about properly addressing the glaringly obvious deficiencies in our defence.

[Real Emerald]

:agree:

He’s got another 2 years on his deal. Until he gets sacked, he’ll be talking as if he’ll be here for the remainder of the 2 years.

I’ve still no doubt he’ll get sacked. If there’s a review of his performance/position then it’s the only logical outcome.

Yep, the club have already said it’s unacceptable, how can you continue with a manager when the season is unacceptable? No manager survives that especially as he’s lost the fans and the club will be struggling to sell tickets.

[H18 SFR]

The easiest way for me when it comes to NM’s media stuff is not to watch it, can’t take to him at all verbally and barely finish an article when reading his comments.

Looks like he’s staying, my worry is we might miss out on a summer appointment getting another job when he scrapes it out the league cup group then makes an arse of the first four or five league matches - seems inevitable based on him so far.

He reckons we’ve had the best transfer window ever and he’s achieved failure with that.

[Iain G]

Yep, the club have already said it’s unacceptable, how can you continue with a manager when the season is unacceptable? No manager survives that especially as he’s lost the fans and the club will be struggling to sell tickets.

It is possible for them to say something is unacceptable, set the bar, and then let the man in charge prove he can do better. I don't expect him to be sacked.

[snedzuk]

Just been reading comments from NM regards going over to the away support ( Ross County ) and taking the applause from the fans something he makes sure him and his players do win,lose or draw.

Gotta respect the guy for this, I wasn’t up there last week so I can only imagine the level of abuse that was thrown his way.
He apparently didn’t actually hear anything……cough! cough!

Part of me would love to see him given the chance to turn things around and I won’t kid anyone into believing I’m in the know one way or another but the easy thing for him to do would be to hide and maybe even walk away from it all but nope, he’s hanging on in there and if we’re going to get out of this terrible mess, that’s the kind of toughness required.

Fair play!

He didn't go over to them though - he was cajoled over by Marcondes and he certainly wasn't getting applause.

[B.H.F.C]

It is possible for them to say something is unacceptable, set the bar, and then let the man in charge prove he can do better. I don't expect him to be sacked.

The club would be taking a huge, huge risk to stick with him now. There is huge disconnect and very little to be positive about. I agree that it shouldn’t be a straight case of someone being sacked based on an initial failure. Sometimes, and probably more often in football, people should be given more of a chance to put things right. But in the case of Montgomery it’s difficult to make an argument that he’s shown enough over the course of the season to retain him. And I say that as someone who has stuck up for him at various points.

[Real Emerald]

It is possible for them to say something is unacceptable, set the bar, and then let the man in charge prove he can do better. I don't expect him to be sacked.

Anything is possible at Hibs but they’ll reap what they sow. I don’t think the manager is up to it but if they manage to sign enough good players it may carry him. I don’t think the fans will be fooled though.

[Basildon Hibs]

If they don't sack NM, then our useless board won't know what's hit them when they see the home crowds plummet...

[The Modfather]

The club would be taking a huge, huge risk to stick with him now. There is huge disconnect and very little to be positive about. I agree that it shouldn’t be a straight case of someone being sacked based on an initial failure. Sometimes, and probably more often in football, people should be given more of a chance to put things right. But in the case of Montgomery it’s difficult to make an argument that he’s shown enough over the course of the season to retain him. And I say that as someone who has stuck up for him at various points.

Monty is still a rookie manager, much like Maloney. If we’re going to hire these kind of managers then it’s pointless expecting them to pick up the woeful and disjointed squads Maloney and Montgomery inherited and expect them to reverse years of decline in the first 6 or 12 months or they’re sacked.

Either they appoint a Maloney or a Montgomery and back them properly. Both could be sacked without ever having a summer to prepare for example. If we appoint them, short of a relegation fight then they get 2 years or so before they are fully judged. It’s either that or churn through experienced journeyman managers like Johnson whose shelf life is naturally about 2 years or so at best these days. Mcinnes is the obvious answer but outside of him you’re choosing either direction above.

[B.H.F.C]

Monty is still a rookie manager, much like Maloney. If we’re going to hire these kind of managers then it’s pointless expecting them to pick up the woeful and disjointed squads Maloney and Montgomery inherited and expect them to reverse years of decline in the first 6 or 12 months or they’re sacked.

Either they appoint a Maloney or a Montgomery and back them properly. Both could be sacked without ever having a summer to prepare for example. If we appoint them, short of a relegation fight then they get 2 years or so before they are fully judged. It’s either that or churn through experienced journeyman managers like Johnson whose shelf life is naturally about 2 years of so at best these days. Mcinnes is the obvious answer but outside of him you’re choosing either direction above.

I don’t disagree with much of that and it’s why I think the club should come out and be clear about their intentions. The statement a few weeks ago was them just playing for time IMO. Back him or sack him, explain the decision, and move forward. It just all feels a bit weird just now and I thought Montgomery standing there looking totally lost at the end of the Ross County game kind of summed it all up.

[JimBHibees]

Just heard an interview with him on the radio talking about moving players on in the summer. I've a horrible feeling he's going to be here next season.

Genuinely hope he is. Maybe there needs to be a bit of patience and not endless reactive short-term nonsense

[JimBHibees]

Debate works when you explain your thinking. How’s Hibs fans behaviour on socials going to be more of an influence than the total farce that has been served up on the pitch this season?

He strikes me as a very rational guy who’s got massive understanding and passion for the club who I’ve no doubt completely understands why fans are rightly raging.

I’m just interested to why you think behaviour on Social Media would piss him off more. He may have been picked every week but there’s thousands of examples of players getting picked and being pissed off because they think the manager is pish.

Not really been a total farce has it. We should be top 6 if not shafted by refs. Games post Jan done over in games v Celtic Hearts Aberdeen Rangers Ross County. Significant difference in points. Give the guy a bit slack and see where we are near Christmas

[JimBHibees]

Debate works when you explain your thinking. How’s Hibs fans behaviour on socials going to be more of an influence than the total farce that has been served up on the pitch this season?

He strikes me as a very rational guy who’s got massive understanding and passion for the club who I’ve no doubt completely understands why fans are rightly raging.

I’m just interested to why you think behaviour on Social Media would piss him off more. He may have been picked every week but there’s thousands of examples of players getting picked and being pissed off because they think the manager is pish.

Maybe the manager thinks the players are pish because many are and you don't know what you are getting week to week

[JimBHibees]

He didn't go over to them though - he was cajoled over by Marcondes and he certainly wasn't getting applause.

But he did still go over as he has done every single game

[JimBHibees]

I'm very confident he is actively working on new players and has in fact signed a few up already. Prepare yourself.

Hibs should announce he is staying

[Stuart93]

Not really been a total farce has it. We should be top 6 if not shafted by refs. Games post Jan done over in games v Celtic Hearts Aberdeen Rangers Ross County. Significant difference in points. Give the guy a bit slack and see where we are near Christmas

Probably struggling with no manager/a new manger in the door with a squad full of NM’s signings

[ancient hibee]

Thinking of a central midfield of Newell and Levitt shows what Montgomery was confronted with. He didn’t sign either. Levitt was a marquee signing and a Welsh international-he was almost forced to play him-arriving at a new club as a rookie manager he could hardly leave him out.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not really been a total farce has it. We should be top 6 if not shafted by refs. Games post Jan done over in games v Celtic Hearts Aberdeen Rangers Ross County. Significant difference in points. Give the guy a bit slack and see where we are near Christmas

Dundee can point to a similar amount of decisions that have went against them, St Mirren have also suffered.

If we’re being fair and giving teams extra points and not just ourselves because it makes us feel better, we’d likely still be bottom 6. The comfort blanket of ‘we’ve done enough to be top 6 but we wiz robbed’ is nonsense. We’ve been garbage and deserve to be where we are.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Thinking of a central midfield of Newell and Levitt shows what Montgomery was confronted with. He didn’t sign either. Levitt was a marquee signing and a Welsh international-he was almost forced to play him-arriving at a new club as a rookie manager he could hardly leave him out.

If he doesn’t have the confidence to choose the team based on who he thinks should be playing then he shouldn’t have been anywhere near the job in the first place.

Despite being a critic of him though, I don’t believe that was the case. I simply think he thought he was picking the best team despite the fact he quite clearly wasn’t.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Hibs should announce he is staying

A sure fire way to have season ticket sales grind to a halt.

[Donegal Hibby]

Hibs should announce he is staying

Absolutely , followed by a few good signings ( like Maolida & NMW ) which should help the season ticket sales too and get us all looking forward to the new season again 👍

[Unseen work]

Absolutely , followed by a few good signings ( like Maolida & NMW ) which should help the season ticket sales too and get us all looking forward to the new season again 👍

Moriah Welsh was signed permanently in January

[Donegal Hibby]

Moriah Welsh was signed permanently in January

Yeah I know that mate . Mean we might sign some multiple million footballer again that's like Maolida on loan and someone like NMW that's young but looks really good on a contract we are all chuffed about. Hoping for some good signings in the summer :hyper

[badabing67]

Based on recent results his position must now be untenable as they now must be worse than Johnson and Maloney

For the love of Christ put the poor man out of his misery looks to have lost the plot and the Dressing Room ( Haven’t heard one player backing him )

Enough is enough

Nathan Moriah-Welsh in strong Hibs defence of Nick Montgomery and issues fan apology - Football Scotland (https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/nathan-moriah-welsh-strong-hibs-29083224)

[LaMotta]

Absolutely , followed by a few good signings ( like Maolida & NMW ) which should help the season ticket sales too and get us all looking forward to the new season again ��

The manager and those 2 have seen us finish bottom 6. Its going to take a bit more than that to shift season tickets.

Edit - I see you mean a few more signings like that. Defo will agree with that as a minimum.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Strange comments from NM on BBC I am just catching up with.

"Fans expect you to win every game. Whether that's realistic or not sometimes you have to question. It's not realistic to win every game at home you have to earn the right to do that."

I don't think there's a Hibs fan out there that expects us to win every game Nick. Every team can try to play the right way but lose games when it just doesn't happen and fans would understand that.

But what it would be nice along the way is progression, learning from mistakes, give us confidence we are on the right path.

We've lost more home games this season than we've won. This is not the right fit

[BILLYHIBS]

Nathan Moriah-Welsh in strong Hibs defence of Nick Montgomery and issues fan apology - Football Scotland (https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/nathan-moriah-welsh-strong-hibs-29083224)

Thanks for that

Interesting he says the players are not carrying out Monty’s instructions

Happy to go with what the Review Panel decide on


:thumbsup:

[TrinityHFC]

Strange comments from NM on BBC I am just catching up with.

"Fans expect you to win every game. Whether that's realistic or not sometimes you have to question. It's not realistic to win every game at home you have to earn the right to do that."

I don't think there's a Hibs fan out there that expects us to win every game Nick. Every team can try to play the right way but lose games when it just doesn't happen and fans would understand that.

But what it would be nice along the way is progression, learning from mistakes, give us confidence we are on the right path.

We've lost more home games this season than we've won. This is not the right fit

I realise it’s not realistic to win every game but I’d like to see him caring more about trying to do so.

Some of the things he says after games reminds me of how Heckingbottom approached things here. If we lose 1-0 we really close to drawing 0-0. What’s wrong with trying to be 2 or 3 up?

I’m sure he would like to win every game 3-0 but I don’t get a proper sense that it is his aim.

[hibby rae]

Strange comments from NM on BBC I am just catching up with.

"Fans expect you to win every game. Whether that's realistic or not sometimes you have to question. It's not realistic to win every game at home you have to earn the right to do that."

I don't think there's a Hibs fan out there that expects us to win every game Nick. Every team can try to play the right way but lose games when it just doesn't happen and fans would understand that.

But what it would be nice along the way is progression, learning from mistakes, give us confidence we are on the right path.

We've lost more home games this season than we've won. This is not the right fit

On the Evening News website today it has him saying we're 'not far' from challenging for Europe next season, given the resources and players he has available that has wound me right up.

Also, bigs ALF up then says he's going to probably release him (I think that's a mistake)

[hibby rae]

I realise it’s not realistic to win every game but I’d like to see him caring more about trying to do so.

Some of the things he says after games reminds me of how Heckingbottom approached things here. If we lose 1-0 we really close to drawing 0-0. What’s wrong with trying to be 2 or 3 up?

I’m sure he would like to win every game 3-0 but I don’t get a proper sense that it is his aim.

I'd like him to not say 'may the best team win' on the eve of a semi final.

[Donegal Hibby]

Nathan Moriah-Welsh in strong Hibs defence of Nick Montgomery and issues fan apology - Football Scotland (https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/nathan-moriah-welsh-strong-hibs-29083224)

That's like something a club captain would do . Good player showing plenty of character by coming out like that , wish we had more like him .

Its obvious imo that Monty needs the summer window to take in his own players to implement how he wants the team to play .

[Since452]

Strange comments from NM on BBC I am just catching up with.

"Fans expect you to win every game. Whether that's realistic or not sometimes you have to question. It's not realistic to win every game at home you have to earn the right to do that."

I don't think there's a Hibs fan out there that expects us to win every game Nick. Every team can try to play the right way but lose games when it just doesn't happen and fans would understand that.

But what it would be nice along the way is progression, learning from mistakes, give us confidence we are on the right path.

We've lost more home games this season than we've won. This is not the right fit

Wow. Didn't realise that. That's absolutely shocking (I realise two of them were LJ). Teams must love playing at Easter Road. Nice stadium, fancy hybrid pitch, turn up and turn the home team over without much effort and up the road. Great :rolleyes:

[Billy Whizz]

https://news.stv.tv/section/sport/football

STV interview

[Basildon Hibs]

Get NM to fu@k. He's a useless slaver, just like his predecessor.

The longer he stays, the more damage he does.

[Centre Hawf]

Strange comments from NM on BBC I am just catching up with.

"Fans expect you to win every game. Whether that's realistic or not sometimes you have to question. It's not realistic to win every game at home you have to earn the right to do that."

I don't think there's a Hibs fan out there that expects us to win every game Nick. Every team can try to play the right way but lose games when it just doesn't happen and fans would understand that.

But what it would be nice along the way is progression, learning from mistakes, give us confidence we are on the right path.

We've lost more home games this season than we've won. This is not the right fit

I've never been one to advocate for his return but **** me when you read stuff like that it makes you yearn for Neil Lennon again. There is absolutely no set of bollocks to the way this guy approaches anything.

He is right that it's not realistic to win every game, in general or at home. But the second you drop those standards you get yourself into the mess we're in now. The guys now just making excuses for himself and it's becoming more and more pathetic as the weeks go on. When you hear your boss making ***** excuses for everything then it's no wonder some of them play at a training game pace level of urgency.

Get this season over with asap so I can forget about us for 6 weeks.

[Gruff]

That's like something a club captain would do . Good player showing plenty of character by coming out like that , wish we had more like him .

Its obvious imo that Monty needs the summer window to take in his own players to implement how he wants the team to play .

Whilst i applaud you for your consistent backing of Monty and all will come good, If Monty's style is a continuation of slow ponderous and frankly boring football, then hes not going to win over many folk.
Monty's problem for me is that it seems that he has no real management skills and hasn't got the nous to play the players he has to their current strengths.
Its all well and good saying he needs his own players in to implement his style, but until that time he should have seen what strengths the team does have and adapt to that style until he can bring in his own players.
He trains with them all week and for the best part of a full season. The defence issue and not fully addressing this is unacceptable. Everyone knew this was a huge problem for Hibs.

Its fairly obvious that if a player can't do what hes asking, look at what can they do, play on that until such time when you can change it via new players.
Monty has rarely done that, there has only been a few glimpses of decent football under Monty since he started. His reading of games and tactics is questionable, bizarre subs.
We can shout about VAR, but every other team has had issues with decisions from VAR, we can shout about injuries, again every other team will have the same issues to a certain degree.

There is very little that i see in Monty that makes me think exciting football will suddenly appear when he gets his players in seeing as he can't get a regular tune out of what hes currently got.

Yes the board have to shoulder some of blame as well, but they don't pick or train the team. Thats Monty.

I really wanted Monty to work out, but on current standings, he doesn't fill me with joy for next season

[Real Emerald]

Whilst i applaud you for your consistent backing of Monty and all will come good, If Monty's style is a continuation of slow ponderous and frankly boring football, then hes not going to win over many folk.
Monty's problem for me is that it seems that he has no real management skills and hasn't got the nous to play the players he has to their current strengths.
Its all well and good saying he needs his own players in to implement his style, but until that time he should have seen what strengths the team does have and adapt to that style until he can bring in his own players.
He trains with them all week and for the best part of a full season. The defence issue and not fully addressing this is unacceptable. Everyone knew this was a huge problem for Hibs.

Its fairly obvious that if a player can't do what hes asking, look at what can they do, play on that until such time when you can change it via new players.
Monty has rarely done that, there has only been a few glimpses of decent football under Monty since he started. His reading of games and tactics is questionable, bizarre subs.
We can shout about VAR, but every other team has had issues with decisions from VAR, we can shout about injuries, again every other team will have the same issues to a certain degree.

There is very little that i see in Monty that makes me think exciting football will suddenly appear when he gets his players in seeing as he can't get a regular tune out of what hes currently got.

Yes the board have to shoulder some of blame as well, but they don't pick or train the team. Thats Monty.

I really wanted Monty to work out, but on current standings, he doesn't fill me with joy for next season

The only people that seem happy he might be here next year is Hearts fans and managers of the other clubs, so easy for them to suss his rubbish tactics and beat us. I’ve bought my season ticket due to the seat release dates but had I not I wouldn’t be renewing it, for the first time in 20 odd years.

[Greensunshine]

Hibs should announce he is staying

A decision needs to be made as early as possible for me.

The pressure to perform from now until the end of the season with this group of players and this defence is massive and it’s a wee bit unfair on him.

If he were to go unbeaten from now until the end of the season then he’ll get little in the way of credit because people will say the games meant nothing but if he loses them then they’ll say he’s a dud and needs to go.

Ultimately we won’t know if he’s a good manager until he gets a proper chance and is allowed to bring in his own players! Will we as a supporters give him that opportunity?

Saying all that, if he’s going to be sacked then get it done as early as possible and get the new guy in.

The longer all this uncertainty goes on the more it will hurt the club as a whole.

[Donegal Hibby]

Whilst i applaud you for your consistent backing of Monty and all will come good, If Monty's style is a continuation of slow ponderous and frankly boring football, then hes not going to win over many folk.
Monty's problem for me is that it seems that he has no real management skills and hasn't got the nous to play the players he has to their current strengths.
Its all well and good saying he needs his own players in to implement his style, but until that time he should have seen what strengths the team does have and adapt to that style until he can bring in his own players.
He trains with them all week and for the best part of a full season. The defence issue and not fully addressing this is unacceptable. Everyone knew this was a huge problem for Hibs.

Its fairly obvious that if a player can't do what hes asking, look at what can they do, play on that until such time when you can change it via new players.
Monty has rarely done that, there has only been a few glimpses of decent football under Monty since he started. His reading of games and tactics is questionable, bizarre subs.
We can shout about VAR, but every other team has had issues with decisions from VAR, we can shout about injuries, again every other team will have the same issues to a certain degree.

There is very little that i see in Monty that makes me think exciting football will suddenly appear when he gets his players in seeing as he can't get a regular tune out of what hes currently got.

Yes the board have to shoulder some of blame as well, but they don't pick or train the team. Thats Monty.

I really wanted Monty to work out, but on current standings, he doesn't fill me with joy for next season

Me backing the manager is purely down to I don't think he's had enough time to change the squad and try and sort out this mess that's happened to us over the last few years under 3 managers , as to all will come good , i really don't if it will though giving the manager time i think our chances of it coming good improve if we do .

I agree that alot of times the football has been slow , ponderous and boring though theres been other times in games when I've thought we've looked good , fast , attacking creating chances and dominating possession .

The style football we play is important and that needs to improve on a more consistent basis which hopefully will when Monty recruits his own players.

Style of football is important and it's why if we did need a manager I wouldn't want the manager's folk keep touting who are already managing clubs in the Scottish premier because I think their football isn't good to watch and boring too.

Though as a team we have been very much like Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde for a few years now . Maloneys time =Draw with hertz , lose to Livvy . LJs time = lose to Motherwell , Dundee Utd and then beat hertz . Its been an going problem in we have been inconsistent for years which suggests to me it's more down to the squad than managers.

The VAR /Ref decision I know have went against other teams though I still wonder if they have had as many as us , honestly don't remember a season quite as bad as this one in you could honestly be looking at potentially double figures in points they've cost us this season which would have easily seen us make top 6 and probably most folk on here willing to give the manager more time than the reaction we are seeing now .

As the subs I think he has made mistakes though I don't think there's a manager or a person in life that doesn't at some point .

The bench a lot of the time in games we haven't got anything on it to make any meaningful impact in games which our previous manager had the same problem with and is something I have sympathy for the managers about.

Us having a poor season imo isn't all down to the manager but many factors all rolled into one like VAR , Refs , injuries , poor recruitment etc etc...


What do I think of Monty being at the helm next season .... I think we will make some exciting signings , trim the squad and be far better for it ......in truth I'm looking forward to the new season already . :aok:

[Basildon Hibs]

Me backing the manager is purely down to I don't think he's had enough time to change the squad and try and sort out this mess that's happened to us over the last few years under 3 managers , as to all will come good , i really don't if it will though giving the manager time i think our chances of it coming good improve if we do .

I agree that alot of times the football has been slow , ponderous and boring though theres been other times in games when I've thought we've looked good , fast , attacking creating chances and dominating possession .

The style football we play is important and that needs to improve on a more consistent basis which hopefully will when Monty recruits his own players.

Style of football is important and it's why if we did need a manager I wouldn't want the manager's folk keep touting who are already managing clubs in the Scottish premier because I think their football isn't good to watch and boring too.

Though as a team we have been very much like Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde for a few years now . Maloneys time =Draw with hertz , lose to Livvy . LJs time = lose to Motherwell , Dundee Utd and then beat hertz . Its been an going problem in we have been inconsistent for years which suggests to me it's more down to the squad than managers.

The VAR /Ref decision I know have went against other teams though I still wonder if they have had as many as us , honestly don't remember a season quite as bad as this one in you could honestly be looking at potentially double figures in points they've cost us this season which would have easily seen us make top 6 and probably most folk on here willing to give the manager more time than the reaction we are seeing now .

As the subs I think he has made mistakes though I don't think there's a manager or a person in life that doesn't at some point .

The bench a lot of the time in games we haven't got anything on it to make any meaningful impact in games which our previous manager had the same problem with and is something I have sympathy for the managers about.

Us having a poor season imo isn't all down to the manager imo but many factors all rolled into one like VAR , Refs , injuries , poor recruitment etc etc...


What do I think of Monty being at the helm next season .... I think we will make some exciting signings , trim the squad and be far better for it ......in truth I'm looking forward to the new season already . :aok:

NM could burn down orphanages all over the world, and you'd still back him.. crazy.

[Since452]

Hibs should announce he is staying

Said it before but either sack him or back him. Who's going to want to join us ahead of say Hearts or Aberdeen? Two clubs who have a clear plan. Nobody will want to join us if the current manager could very well be emptied and the new one doesn't fancy them. I don't want Montgomery to stay but I'd rather it was confirmed he was here for next season than being stuck in the limbo we are just now. It's not good for Hibs or Montgomery.

[jeffers]

Said it before but either sack him or back him. Who's going to want to join us ahead of say Hearts or Aberdeen? Two clubs who have a clear plan. Nobody will want to join us if the current manager could very well be emptied and the new one doesn't fancy them. I don't want Montgomery to stay but I'd rather it was confirmed he was here for next season than being stuck in the limbo we are just now. It's not good for Hibs or Montgomery.

They are fools for thinking some results in the bottom 6 should factor into the decision to keep him and they are treating the fans with contempt by not being more transparent.

[bingo70]

They are fools for thinking some results in the bottom 6 should factor into the decision to keep him and they are treating the fans with contempt by not being more transparent.

Agreed.

Even the stuff with Brian McDermott is really annoying me. It’s been an open secret for weeks he’s changing roles within the club. Surely they know what role he’s going into by now, the season ends in a week, tell us what’s going on!

Preparation for next season looking like an absolute cluster ****.

[JimBHibees]

Said it before but either sack him or back him. Who's going to want to join us ahead of say Hearts or Aberdeen? Two clubs who have a clear plan. Nobody will want to join us if the current manager could very well be emptied and the new one doesn't fancy them. I don't want Montgomery to stay but I'd rather it was confirmed he was here for next season than being stuck in the limbo we are just now. It's not good for Hibs or Montgomery.

Totally agree

[H18 SFR]

Just read his comments about conversations he needs to have with players out on loan, is he wanting us to feel sorry for him because he needs to have these discussions? Is that not his ****ing job?

[bingo70]

Just read his comments about conversations he needs to have with players out on loan, is he wanting us to feel sorry for him because he needs to have these discussions? Is that not his ****ing job?

It’s also conversations that should have been taking place over the last few weeks. Why are we waiting until the end of the season?

[Mon Dieu4]

Strange comments from NM on BBC I am just catching up with.

"Fans expect you to win every game. Whether that's realistic or not sometimes you have to question. It's not realistic to win every game at home you have to earn the right to do that."

I don't think there's a Hibs fan out there that expects us to win every game Nick. Every team can try to play the right way but lose games when it just doesn't happen and fans would understand that.

But what it would be nice along the way is progression, learning from mistakes, give us confidence we are on the right path.

We've lost more home games this season than we've won. This is not the right fit

I don't expect us to win every game, I do however expect us to try and win every game, that's not been the case under him, think it was the game against St Johnstone at Easter Road a team towards the bottom of the league and after the game he goes on about how we had to stay patient, why? How about you get in about a team low on confidence from the start and put even more doubt in their minds, even more strange is that it was a couple of weeks after we put Livi to the sword in the first 30 mins

[Brightside]

Just read his comments about conversations he needs to have with players out on loan, is he wanting us to feel sorry for him because he needs to have these discussions? Is that not his ****ing job?

Has he asked you to feel sorry for him? Jeez this is all getting really silly. Just let the club get on with their job. They will tell us stuff when they are good and ready.

[jeffers]

Has he asked you to feel sorry for him? Jeez this is all getting really silly. Just let the club get on with their job. They will tell us stuff when they are good and ready.

If they’ve decided to stick with him as you believe B, why can’t they come out and just say it then ?

[blackpoolhibs]

Remember under Tony Mowbray he said he'd like to win more than we lost, now we have a manager who thinks us fans expect to win every game?

I'd like to ask him how he comes to that conclusion, i dont know any Hibs fan who thinks that?

You are living in a different world Monty. :rolleyes:

[Iain G]

Remember under Tony Mowbray he said he'd like to win more than we lost, now we have a manager who thinks us fans expect to win every game?

I'd like to ask him how he comes to that conclusion, i dont know any Hibs fan who thinks that?

You are living in a different world Monty. :rolleyes:

You can understand exactly what he means from what he said, no need to take his wording 100% literally. .

[WoreTheGreen]

Daughter just seen him at Waverley
Not jumping to conclusions

[matty_f]

Daughter just seen him at Waverley
Not jumping to conclusions

She might have been going for the train.

[JohnM1875]

She might have been going for the train.

😂

[babahibs]

Me backing the manager is purely down to I don't think he's had enough time to change the squad and try and sort out this mess that's happened to us over the last few years under 3 managers , as to all will come good , i really don't if it will though giving the manager time i think our chances of it coming good improve if we do .

I agree that alot of times the football has been slow , ponderous and boring though theres been other times in games when I've thought we've looked good , fast , attacking creating chances and dominating possession .

The style football we play is important and that needs to improve on a more consistent basis which hopefully will when Monty recruits his own players.

Style of football is important and it's why if we did need a manager I wouldn't want the manager's folk keep touting who are already managing clubs in the Scottish premier because I think their football isn't good to watch and boring too.

Though as a team we have been very much like Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde for a few years now . Maloneys time =Draw with hertz , lose to Livvy . LJs time = lose to Motherwell , Dundee Utd and then beat hertz . Its been an going problem in we have been inconsistent for years which suggests to me it's more down to the squad than managers.

The VAR /Ref decision I know have went against other teams though I still wonder if they have had as many as us , honestly don't remember a season quite as bad as this one in you could honestly be looking at potentially double figures in points they've cost us this season which would have easily seen us make top 6 and probably most folk on here willing to give the manager more time than the reaction we are seeing now .

As the subs I think he has made mistakes though I don't think there's a manager or a person in life that doesn't at some point .

The bench a lot of the time in games we haven't got anything on it to make any meaningful impact in games which our previous manager had the same problem with and is something I have sympathy for the managers about.

Us having a poor season imo isn't all down to the manager but many factors all rolled into one like VAR , Refs , injuries , poor recruitment etc etc...


What do I think of Monty being at the helm next season .... I think we will make some exciting signings , trim the squad and be far better for it ......in truth I'm looking forward to the new season already . :aok:

Well said Donegal, exactly where I am and I would guess there's big numbers of us feel the same. The handful of posters on here constantly calling for his head every 5 minutes don't speak for everyone.

[Wilson]

Well said Donegal, exactly where I am and I would guess there's big numbers of us feel the same. The handful of posters on here constantly calling for his head every 5 minutes don't speak for everyone.

I doubt big numbers feel the same. A number maybe but not a big one.

[hibeerealist]

I doubt big numbers feel the same. A number maybe but not a big one.

One hand of fingers would cover it.

[K&S1875]

Funny you should say that. I saw him at Waverley train station at 11 o’clock this morning.

[WoreTheGreen]

To where is he going
But don’t get me wrong I don’t really care
I was just passing on the information

[Keepthefaith]

Me backing the manager is purely down to I don't think he's had enough time to change the squad and try and sort out this mess that's happened to us over the last few years under 3 managers , as to all will come good , i really don't if it will though giving the manager time i think our chances of it coming good improve if we do .

I agree that alot of times the football has been slow , ponderous and boring though theres been other times in games when I've thought we've looked good , fast , attacking creating chances and dominating possession .

The style football we play is important and that needs to improve on a more consistent basis which hopefully will when Monty recruits his own players.

Style of football is important and it's why if we did need a manager I wouldn't want the manager's folk keep touting who are already managing clubs in the Scottish premier because I think their football isn't good to watch and boring too.

Though as a team we have been very much like Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde for a few years now . Maloneys time =Draw with hertz , lose to Livvy . LJs time = lose to Motherwell , Dundee Utd and then beat hertz . Its been an going problem in we have been inconsistent for years which suggests to me it's more down to the squad than managers.

The VAR /Ref decision I know have went against other teams though I still wonder if they have had as many as us , honestly don't remember a season quite as bad as this one in you could honestly be looking at potentially double figures in points they've cost us this season which would have easily seen us make top 6 and probably most folk on here willing to give the manager more time than the reaction we are seeing now .

As the subs I think he has made mistakes though I don't think there's a manager or a person in life that doesn't at some point .

The bench a lot of the time in games we haven't got anything on it to make any meaningful impact in games which our previous manager had the same problem with and is something I have sympathy for the managers about.

Us having a poor season imo isn't all down to the manager but many factors all rolled into one like VAR , Refs , injuries , poor recruitment etc etc...


What do I think of Monty being at the helm next season .... I think we will make some exciting signings , trim the squad and be far better for it ......in truth I'm looking forward to the new season already . :aok:

I agree, and it's interesting that those backing NM post a balanced, measured argument, whereas the majority of those against just seem to have tunnel vision and not prepared to acknowledge any positives.

The majority of top teams play the way NM wants us to play, possession based but with a pact attack. There's been clear signs IMO that he can do it, but he absolutely needs to learn from his mistakes.

If, and I believe he will be in charge for next season, I really hope all the angry mob on here can get behind him and the team and not look to pounce on the first mistake.

[JohnM1875]

I agree, and it's interesting that those backing NM post a balanced, measured argument, whereas the majority of those against just seem to have tunnel vision and not prepared to acknowledge any positives.

The majority of top teams play the way NM wants us to play, possession based but with a pact attack. There's been clear signs IMO that he can do it, but he absolutely needs to learn from his mistakes.

If, and I believe he will be in charge for next season, I really hope all the angry mob on here can get behind him and the team and not look to pounce on the first mistake.

The only real argument I ever see for backing NM is 'you can't keep sacking managers'?

[B.H.F.C]

I agree, and it's interesting that those backing NM post a balanced, measured argument, whereas the majority of those against just seem to have tunnel vision and not prepared to acknowledge any positives.

The majority of top teams play the way NM wants us to play, possession based but with a pact attack. There's been clear signs IMO that he can do it, but he absolutely needs to learn from his mistakes.

If, and I believe he will be in charge for next season, I really hope all the angry mob on here can get behind him and the team and not look to pounce on the first mistake.

I’d consider myself someone who has stuck up for him a bit. I think there has been a wee bit mitigation along the way.

But when you look back at his time now, what are these clear signs you talk about? He’s no really improved us in any aspect of our game from what he inherited.

[Since452]

I agree, and it's interesting that those backing NM post a balanced, measured argument, whereas the majority of those against just seem to have tunnel vision and not prepared to acknowledge any positives.

The majority of top teams play the way NM wants us to play, possession based but with a pact attack. There's been clear signs IMO that he can do it, but he absolutely needs to learn from his mistakes.

If, and I believe he will be in charge for next season, I really hope all the angry mob on here can get behind him and the team and not look to pounce on the first mistake.

There's been positives?

[Paulie Walnuts]

I agree, and it's interesting that those backing NM post a balanced, measured argument, whereas the majority of those against just seem to have tunnel vision and not prepared to acknowledge any positives.

The majority of top teams play the way NM wants us to play, possession based but with a pact attack. There's been clear signs IMO that he can do it, but he absolutely needs to learn from his mistakes.

If, and I believe he will be in charge for next season, I really hope all the angry mob on here can get behind him and the team and not look to pounce on the first mistake.

That is some take :faf:

Essentially, if you agree with keepthefaith, you’re balanced and measured. If you don’t, you’re an idiot.

I can’t say I look at the posts declaring ‘VAR bad, Hibs +10 points, nobody else any’ smack of being balanced or measured.

[AlbertK86]

Has he asked you to feel sorry for him? Jeez this is all getting really silly. Just let the club get on with their job. They will tell us stuff when they are good and ready.

Well said


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[babahibs]

I agree, and it's interesting that those backing NM post a balanced, measured argument, whereas the majority of those against just seem to have tunnel vision and not prepared to acknowledge any positives.

The majority of top teams play the way NM wants us to play, possession based but with a pact attack. There's been clear signs IMO that he can do it, but he absolutely needs to learn from his mistakes.

If, and I believe he will be in charge for next season, I really hope all the angry mob on here can get behind him and the team and not look to pounce on the first mistake.

Again, well said.

[babahibs]

Has he asked you to feel sorry for him? Jeez this is all getting really silly. Just let the club get on with their job. They will tell us stuff when they are good and ready.

Yep, again, well said, some really weird stuff being posted

[babahibs]

That is some take :faf:

Essentially, if you agree with keepthefaith, you’re balanced and measured. If you don’t, you’re an idiot.

I can’t say I look at the posts declaring ‘VAR bad, Hibs +10 points, nobody else any’ smack of being balanced or measured.

That is some take :faf:

I don't see where keepthefaith calls anyone an idiot?

Your last sentence = word salad.

Am I doing this right?

[jeffers]

That is some take :faf:

I don't see where keepthefaith calls anyone an idiot?

Your last sentence = word salad.

Am I doing this right?

No he didn’t say that but his post was pretty condescending nonetheless. I’d argue there is nothing balanced about the posts saying stick by him. All we get is VAR and player mistakes and signs of promise that none of these posters are able to really elaborate on. Oh aye and he needs his own players cos apparently he’s unable to work with the ones he currently has.

[Paulie Walnuts]

That is some take :faf:

I don't see where keepthefaith calls anyone an idiot?

Your last sentence = word salad.

Am I doing this right?

Hence why I said ‘essentially’. :aok:

[Keepthefaith]

That is some take :faf:

Essentially, if you agree with keepthefaith, you’re balanced and measured. If you don’t, you’re an idiot.

I can’t say I look at the posts declaring ‘VAR bad, Hibs +10 points, nobody else any’ smack of being balanced or measured.

Oh stubbsy I know we disagree a lot but dear God you've outdone yourself. How is asking folk to be balanced ( I didn't say change their mind) calling them an idiot? You've really proved my point tbh that those like yourself who are absolutely set on sacking him can be shall we say a bit OTT, so thanks for that!

It's always more interesting if folk can have an intelligent argument and not just dismiss because it doesn't fit your own view.

The irony is, is that you're one of the worst for calling anyone who acknowledged or looks for positives a happy clapper or deluded!

Maybe just calm the **** down a bit?

[babahibs]

No he didn’t say that but his post was pretty condescending nonetheless. I’d argue there is nothing balanced about the posts saying stick by him. All we get is VAR and player mistakes and signs of promise that none of these posters are able to really elaborate on. Oh aye and he needs his own players cos apparently he’s unable to work with the ones he currently has.

Condescending, really?
Pot, kettle.

[jeffers]

Condescending, really?
Pot, kettle.

Ooo that’s me told.

[Keepthefaith]

No he didn’t say that but his post was pretty condescending nonetheless. I’d argue there is nothing balanced about the posts saying stick by him. All we get is VAR and player mistakes and signs of promise that none of these posters are able to really elaborate on. Oh aye and he needs his own players cos apparently he’s unable to work with the ones he currently has.

Condescending?? Wow. So the bit where I say NM has to learn from his mistakes isn't balanced? Have a word with yourself.

[jeffers]

Condescending?? Wow. So the bit where I say NM has to learn from his mistakes isn't balanced? Have a word with yourself.

Aye it’s condescending. You’ve basically said the posters who want to keep him are making their point in a balanced way and those who think he should be sacked aren’t. I’ve seen a number of posts where it’s been explained in a balanced way why we should cut our losses. It’s not me who needs to have a word with myself.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Oh stubbsy I know we disagree a lot but dear God you've outdone yourself. How is asking folk to be balanced ( I didn't say change their mind) calling them an idiot? You've really proved my point tbh that those like yourself who are absolutely set on sacking him can be shall we say a bit OTT, so thanks for that!

It's always more interesting if folk can have an intelligent argument and not just dismiss because it doesn't fit your own view.

The irony is, is that you're one of the worst for calling anyone who acknowledged or looks for positives a happy clapper or deluded!

Maybe just calm the **** down a bit?

:faf:

People post balanced posts all the time about why we should sack Nick Montgomery. You don’t agree with it and are obviously unwilling to see them as balanced or measured.

Go on, find me a post where I’ve used the terms happy clapper or deluded. Please, go and do it. You’ll be able to prove your comments aren’t unbalanced and unmeasured when you show you’re not using complete hyperbole to make your point. I await the posts.

[Bridge hibs]

****ing hell, one day of sunshine and this place goes radge 😁

[Donegal Hibby]

Condescending, really?
Pot, kettle.


Condescending?? Wow. So the bit where I say NM has to learn from his mistakes isn't balanced? Have a word with yourself.

Problem is that most of us that think the manager should be given time are quite willing to say there's mistakes been made , footballs been poor at times though the minute any of us mention some of the other stuff that's contributed to our season like atrocious decisions , Injuries etc it's normally dismissed because some just don't want to hear it ! .

[matty_f]

I agree, and it's interesting that those backing NM post a balanced, measured argument, whereas the majority of those against just seem to have tunnel vision and not prepared to acknowledge any positives.

The majority of top teams play the way NM wants us to play, possession based but with a pact attack. There's been clear signs IMO that he can do it, but he absolutely needs to learn from his mistakes.

If, and I believe he will be in charge for next season, I really hope all the angry mob on here can get behind him and the team and not look to pounce on the first mistake.
I don't think that's a fair post, to be honest - there are folk posting balanced arguments on either side of it as much as both sides have folk who just post with blinkers on.

I think he's the wrong guy for the job, I can happily(and have) explain why that is. If there were tons of positives or even a handful of them then trust me, I'd be all over them because I would love him to succeed at Hibs - I don't have any personal axe to grind with a Monty, and if he turned it around I would genuinely be delighted for him - that's the best case scenario for me, but I also think it's a hugely unlikely scenario.

[babahibs]

Problem is that most of us that think the manager should be given time are quite willing to say there's mistakes been made , footballs been poor at times though the minute any of us mention some of the other stuff that's contributed to our season like atrocious decisions , Injuries etc it's normally dismissed because some just don't want to hear it ! .

This

[babahibs]

Hence why I said ‘essentially’. :aok:

K :aok:

[Green Reaper]

One hand of fingers would cover it.

So 5...6 for a Jambo 😬

[JohnM1875]

Problem is that most of us that think the manager should be given time are quite willing to say there's mistakes been made , footballs been poor at times though the minute any of us mention some of the other stuff that's contributed to our season like atrocious decisions , Injuries etc it's normally dismissed because some just don't want to hear it ! .

It’s maybe dismissed because every single team in the league has suffered from exactly the same. The last VAR review had the huns as the worst affected.

It still blows my mind that the strongest argument for keeping him is because, apparently, you can’t keep sacking managers. It seems like blind faith and nothing else.

Anyway, it looks like he’s going to get the summer window to prove he has what it takes, so all we can really do is hope he can turn it around.

Just hope we don’t lose on Wednesday to ruin the Hanlon and Stevenson tribute.

[Exuberance1875]

If he’s here next season we are in serious contention of relegation. Wouldn’t let him anywhere near a rebuild

[One Day Soon]

No he didn’t say that but his post was pretty condescending nonetheless. I’d argue there is nothing balanced about the posts saying stick by him. All we get is VAR and player mistakes and signs of promise that none of these posters are able to really elaborate on. Oh aye and he needs his own players cos apparently he’s unable to work with the ones he currently has.

Some of the Popular People’s Front for Montgomery posts certainly have a very ‘there are no American tanks in Baghdad’ feel to them. The problem is the ***** stuff, the results, the outcome over the season is all to evident to see. The ‘we’re close’ largely amounts to assertion, with little visible progress to back it up.

[Real Emerald]

Some of the Popular People’s Front for Montgomery posts certainly have a very ‘there are no American tanks in Baghdad’ feel to them. The problem is the ***** stuff, the results, the outcome over the season is all to evident to see. The ‘we’re close’ largely amounts to assertion, with little visible progress to back it up.

The comical Ali Hibs support branch. 😂 It’s actually not funny. 😡

[joe breezy]

“Monty is close to turning it around” I find it hard to believe and I’m an optimist at the worst of times


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[JimBHibees]

No he didn’t say that but his post was pretty condescending nonetheless. I’d argue there is nothing balanced about the posts saying stick by him. All we get is VAR and player mistakes and signs of promise that none of these posters are able to really elaborate on. Oh aye and he needs his own players cos apparently he’s unable to work with the ones he currently has.

Some of they points are important though we missed top 6 by a point and even the most anti Hibs supporter would probably accept we should have had more points than we did at split due to a catalogue of poor decisions which was every game at one stretch. That would have had us top 6 with better possibly games to look forward to. The individual mistakes were clearly a factor. Not saying he has proven to be anything special because he hasn’t just think that there has been enough in games to give him a summer window and preseason that is all. Last derby Celtic at home for example. If he leaves tomorrow certainly won’t be thinking it is some huge injustice though personally would like to see him get that chance.

[JimBHibees]

If he’s here next season we are in serious contention of relegation. Wouldn’t let him anywhere near a rebuild

Why we weren’t near relegation this season and he joined when we were bottom and had no points from three winnable games

[Allant1981]

Why we weren’t near relegation this season and he joined when we were bottom and had no points from three winnable games

Because this place has to be full of doom and gloom constantly

[Unseen work]

Why we weren’t near relegation this season and he joined when we were bottom and had no points from three winnable games

Myziane Maolida

[Nicho87]

I’m deeply concerned Monty has been given some indication that he has been given the nod and is staying. The articles coming out the last day or two about the rebuild.

It’s madness, his results say he should not be given any more time.

Said it before, if season tickets are slow and I think they are. This is the biggest vote of no confidence by the fans.

[bingo70]

I’m deeply concerned Monty has been given some indication that he has been given the nod and is staying. The articles coming out the last day or two about the rebuild.

It’s madness, his results say he should not be given any more time.

Said it before, if season tickets are slow and I think they are. This is the biggest vote of no confidence by the fans.

The fans aren’t always right though.

If we do well next season, season ticket holders will be replaced by paying punters on the day so season ticket sales aren’t the be all and end all.

If it was up to me, I would sack him. I’m also very conscious I could be wrong though.

[Smartie]

“Monty is close to turning it around” I find it hard to believe and I’m an optimist at the worst of times


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Devil’s advocate - we’ve scored the most goals outside Rangers and Celtic this season - push the boat out to get Maolida back. He’s played with a smile on his face, has looked like he’s enjoyed his football and may relish an extended opportunity to put himself in the shop window.

There are some obvious and realistic options who have plied their trade in the SPFL this season who would be an upgrade at GK. We have a blank canvas at CH, a situation many managers would relish, a chance to properly make a mark on the spine of the team with his own players.

Moriah-Welsh was an excellent bit of business and between him, Marcondes and Triantis, NM definitely improved the midfield in January.

Which possibly just leaves us short of a “10”, presumably with cash in the budget to put towards signing one?


I realise that if we get much of this wrong then it could look pretty bleak and I don’t need to list our well documented challenges here.


But is it that unrealistic to find a glass half full outlook?

I don’t think it is.

[flash]

Myziane Maolida

Which is strange because, despite his goals, our results haven't really improved that much.

[jeffers]

Some of they points are important though we missed top 6 by a point and even the most anti Hibs supporter would probably accept we should have had more points than we did at split due to a catalogue of poor decisions which was every game at one stretch. That would have had us top 6 with better possibly games to look forward to. The individual mistakes were clearly a factor. Not saying he has proven to be anything special because he hasn’t just think that there has been enough in games to give him a summer window and preseason that is all. Last derby Celtic at home for example. If he leaves tomorrow certainly won’t be thinking it is some huge injustice though personally would like to see him get that chance.

There’s nothing to say Dundee didn’t have decisions go against them that could have seen them gain additional points too though Jim. It’s covering old ground, I agree we’ve had some shocking decisions go against us, but all we can say about them is they could have seen us get more points, not that they would have.

I’d argue most goals are caused by a mistake, maybe not as glaring as some of the ones our players have made but he’s picking those players…..

He joined after 3 games, not mid season. There have been little to no signs of improvement in all that time. That’s my biggest issue with him, though there are others. If we hadn’t been able to secure Maolida on loan then Top 6 wouldn’t have even been a possibility. As a manager he’s proved to be no better than Maloney or Johnson and it’s no more than blind faith to suggest it’s going to improve. I say that as someone who has no dislike for him on a personal level and was pleased when he was appointed.

[JimBHibees]

There’s nothing to say Dundee didn’t have decisions go against them that could have seen them gain additional points too though Jim. It’s covering old ground, I agree we’ve had some shocking decisions go against us, but all we can say about them is they could have seen us get more points, not that they would have.

I’d argue most goals are caused by a mistake, maybe not as glaring as some of the ones our players have made but he’s picking those players…..

He joined after 3 games, not mid season. There have been little to no signs of improvement in all that time. That’s my biggest issue with him, though there are others. If we hadn’t been able to secure Maolida on loan then Top 6 wouldn’t have even been a possibility. As a manager he’s proved to be no better than Maloney or Johnson and it’s no more than blind faith to suggest it’s going to improve. I say that as someone who has no dislike for him on a personal level and was pleased when he was appointed.

Genuinely get all that and as I say wouldn't have huge issues if he went however for me sometimes better to stick and give him preseason and window. For me there has been enough but appreciate results haven't been good enough though I do think the margins in getting top 6 were so marginal that these decisions did matter.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There’s nothing to say Dundee didn’t have decisions go against them that could have seen them gain additional points too though Jim. It’s covering old ground, I agree we’ve had some shocking decisions go against us, but all we can say about them is they could have seen us get more points, not that they would have.

I’d argue most goals are caused by a mistake, maybe not as glaring as some of the ones our players have made but he’s picking those players…..

He joined after 3 games, not mid season. There have been little to no signs of improvement in all that time. That’s my biggest issue with him, though there are others. If we hadn’t been able to secure Maolida on loan then Top 6 wouldn’t have even been a possibility. As a manager he’s proved to be no better than Maloney or Johnson and it’s no more than blind faith to suggest it’s going to improve. I say that as someone who has no dislike for him on a personal level and was pleased when he was appointed.

Dundee fans feel every bit as hard done by as Hibs fans and can point to numerous incorrect decisions that have went against them in games where they’ve dropped points.

One of the independent reviews published earlier in the season was absolutely littered with incorrect decisions against Dundee, and that’s just decisions that the review bothered looking at.

[jeffers]

Genuinely get all that and as I say wouldn't have huge issues if he went however for me sometimes better to stick and give him preseason and window. For me there has been enough but appreciate results haven't been good enough though I do think the margins in getting top 6 were so marginal that these decisions did matter.

I do get that viewpoint. My big concern though is in doing so we get more of the same and end up emptying him early on and have yet another transitional season. My only hope in letting him stay is that the players we do sign this summer are not just what he wants.

[jeffers]

Dundee fans feel every bit as hard done by as Hibs fans and can point to numerous incorrect decisions that have went against them in games where they’ve dropped points.

One of the independent reviews published earlier in the season was absolutely littered with incorrect decisions against Dundee, and that’s just decisions that the review bothered looking at.

Doesn’t surprise me at all. We naturally focus on the ones against us ‘cos we are Hibs fans. Refereeing in Scotland “aided” by VAR is absolutely atrocious so stands to reason other clubs will have had decisions against them they’d argue would have seen them gather more points.

[Since452]

If he’s here next season we are in serious contention of relegation. Wouldn’t let him anywhere near a rebuild

My worry is that we're on a downward spiral that will eventually lead to relegation. This era has all the feel of the Calderwood to Butcher period. I'm not pinning that all on Montgomery although he is contributing. It's more the apathy around the club and the continual poor choices by senior management etc. There's a huge disconnect for me. I don't find anyone at Hibs particularly likeable.

It feels a million miles away from the Stubbs/Lennon/Dempster/McGinn era. It's been pretty grim since we punted Ross other than some brief moments under Johnson.

[TrinityHibby]

I don't think that's a fair post, to be honest - there are folk posting balanced arguments on either side of it as much as both sides have folk who just post with blinkers on.

I think he's the wrong guy for the job, I can happily(and have) explain why that is. If there were tons of positives or even a handful of them then trust me, I'd be all over them because I would love him to succeed at Hibs - I don't have any personal axe to grind with a Monty, and if he turned it around I would genuinely be delighted for him - that's the best case scenario for me, but I also think it's a hugely unlikely scenario.

Excellent post Matty. I also believe he is the wrong guy and have used a fact based approach to reach this conclusion.

[snedzuk]

One hand of fingers would cover it.

Leith fingers or Gorgie fingers?

[Callum_62]

Agreed.

Even the stuff with Brian McDermott is really annoying me. It’s been an open secret for weeks he’s changing roles within the club. Surely they know what role he’s going into by now, the season ends in a week, tell us what’s going on!

Preparation for next season looking like an absolute cluster ****.What difference does it make if the fans know now or in a few weeks what McDermott is doing?

Surely if it's an open secret - he knows - which will mean he can get on with whatever he's new role includes?

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[Allant1981]

My worry is that we're on a downward spiral that will eventually lead to relegation. This era has all the feel of the Calderwood to Butcher period. I'm not pinning that all on Montgomery although he is contributing. It's more the apathy around the club and the continual poor choices by senior management etc. There's a huge disconnect for me. I don't find anyone at Hibs particularly likeable.

It feels a million miles away from the Stubbs/Lennon/Dempster/McGinn era. It's been pretty grim since we punted Ross other than some brief moments under Johnson.

It is a million miles away from calderwood/butcher era

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

It is a million miles away from calderwood/butcher era

There's a very similar level of apathy/ frustration working it's way in amongst most of the Hibbies I know.

[Allant1981]

There's a very similar level of apathy/ frustration working it's way in amongst most of the Hibbies I know.

Certainly none of the folk I know have ever mentioned it being like those days but different folk, different opinions I suppose

[GreenCastle]

Which is strange because, despite his goals, our results haven't really improved that much.

Just think where we would be without his goals…

Add in he won’t stay next season and if Ellie leaves we have lost a load of goals and assists.

So not only does the back line need improved we need to find goals to win us games.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Certainly none of the folk I know have ever mentioned it being like those days but different folk, different opinions I suppose

I don’t think it’s that outrageous a claim. Whilst you’re saying nobody you know says it’s like that, I’m now down to a group of 2 season ticket holders. I’m not one of the 2. Back in those days it was 15 season ticket holders. Apathy is absolutely a huge part of the reason for that in my group.

[Trinity Hibee]

There's a very similar level of apathy/ frustration working it's way in amongst most of the Hibbies I know.

For me actually, butcher era was anger and a feeling we had to get ourselves back up. Currently I just feel detached now and losing interest.

There’s always a feeling that a relegation is a reset whereas currently we are just aimlessly bobbing around mid table which means there is no real urgency to fix anything.

[Brightside]

How can people be losing interest if they talk about it so much on here. Surely that’s the opposite of losing interest. If anything it’s talking up too much of your thoughts.

[Trinity Hibee]

How can people be losing interest if they talk about it so much on here. Surely that’s the opposite of losing interest. If anything it’s talking up too much of your thoughts.

Because folk are frustrated. Really not difficult to understand. Try harder next time

[Rumble de Thump]

It’s maybe dismissed because every single team in the league has suffered from exactly the same. The last VAR review had the huns as the worst affected.

It still blows my mind that the strongest argument for keeping him is because, apparently, you can’t keep sacking managers. It seems like blind faith and nothing else.

Anyway, it looks like he’s going to get the summer window to prove he has what it takes, so all we can really do is hope he can turn it around.

Just hope we don’t lose on Wednesday to ruin the Hanlon and Stevenson tribute.

The idea that other teams have suffered from as many blatantly incorrect major decisions as Hibs this season is pure fantasy. Even pundits who are known to be biased against Hibs have been able to acknowledge it yet some Hibs fans are desperate not to. All a bit odd.

[Real Emerald]

How can people be losing interest if they talk about it so much on here. Surely that’s the opposite of losing interest. If anything it’s talking up too much of your thoughts.

You’re just trolling now, folk are really pissed off with what’s happening and you start with your condescending posts. It’s like picking scabs and hoping for a reaction.

[JohnM1875]

The idea that other teams have suffered from as many blatantly incorrect major decisions as Hibs this season is pure fantasy. Even pundits who are known to be biased against Hibs have been able to acknowledge it yet some Hibs fans are desperate not to. All a bit odd.

Every teams fan base think they’re the hardest done by. You see it online all the time. All sets of fans always going on about how refs, VAR, the SFA, the press etc are against them.

So there’s pundits out there that have come out and said that Hibs have suffered more incorrect decisions than any other team? Can’t say I’ve seen that.

[bingo70]

How can people be losing interest if they talk about it so much on here. Surely that’s the opposite of losing interest. If anything it’s talking up too much of your thoughts.

Was thinking something similar myself.

I think we must have said just about all there is to say about him until we lose tomorrow 😂

Close the threads then reconvene at 5pm the morn, if we win it’s a pointless game anyway so doesn’t count.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Every teams fan base think they’re the hardest done by. You see it online all the time. All sets of fans always going on about how refs, VAR, the SFA, the press etc are against them.

So there’s pundits out there that have come out and said that Hibs have suffered more incorrect decisions than any other team? Can’t say I’ve seen that.

I think Tom English said it. You know, the guy everyone says is absolutely clueless and a slaver.

[flash]

It's quite simple with the decisions.

If you have had more bad decisions against you than in your favour then you have been hard done to.

Simple logic tells you there's a winner and a loser in every bad decision.

We are clearly several decisions down this season.

[hibeerealist]

How can people be losing interest if they talk about it so much on here. Surely that’s the opposite of losing interest. If anything it’s talking up too much of your thoughts.


The mighty Motherwell showed us how good Ross County are, Monty is done

[Donegal Hibby]

The idea that other teams have suffered from as many blatantly incorrect major decisions as Hibs this season is pure fantasy. Even pundits who are known to be biased against Hibs have been able to acknowledge it yet some Hibs fans are desperate not to. All a bit odd.

Absolutely . Its been really bad this season .

[JimBHibees]

How can people be losing interest if they talk about it so much on here. Surely that’s the opposite of losing interest. If anything it’s talking up too much of your thoughts.

Good point

[JimBHibees]

Every teams fan base think they’re the hardest done by. You see it online all the time. All sets of fans always going on about how refs, VAR, the SFA, the press etc are against them.

So there’s pundits out there that have come out and said that Hibs have suffered more incorrect decisions than any other team? Can’t say I’ve seen that.

Tom English and Michael Stewart mentioned it a couple of weeks back

[JimBHibees]

The mighty Motherwell showed us how good Ross County are, Monty is done

Motherwell are a decent team and are a good example of a team sticking with a manager who had a bad run. Rangers and Hearts have also lost recently in Dingwall. Laidlaw gifted Motherwell a couple of goals also.

[JimBHibees]

The idea that other teams have suffered from as many blatantly incorrect major decisions as Hibs this season is pure fantasy. Even pundits who are known to be biased against Hibs have been able to acknowledge it yet some Hibs fans are desperate not to. All a bit odd.

Totally agree doesn’t fit with the perception of the manager

[hibsbollah]

I think Tom English said it. You know, the guy everyone says is absolutely clueless and a slaver.

He said it because he watches a bit of Scottish football and hes not totally blind.

[Smartie]

The refereeing decisions thing was definitely a fair mitigation a few weeks back.

Monty can’t really afford many more performances or results like the one at Ross County, otherwise the genuine grievance regarding the impact of those decisions ends up diluted amongst a higher number of poor performances and loses a bit of significance.

[cameronw-hfc]

He said it because he watches a bit of Scottish football and hes not totally blind.

Don't think he's great but he turned me around a bit on the hibs pod he done recently. Spoke really well and fairly about us as a club, seemed quite decent even if I disagree with his opinions on the radio.

[Tambo]

We will just have to wait and see what happens as the season comes to a close, strong feeling Monty will still be in charge come the summer window.

Getting rid after the statement would have been the perfect time and I fear two bad performances will end the season on a very bad low with alot of fans showing how they feel.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He said it because he watches a bit of Scottish football and hes not totally blind.

Apart from the times when on this site he is declared totally blind or words to that affect, of course.

He’s held up as one of the worst pundits around on this site. Find it funny that when his argument suits though that it becomes an infallible one.

Tom English says Hibs are crap? **** Tom English, what does he know.

Tom English says Hibs have had many decisions against them? Hey look what Tom English says.

[BoomtownHibees]

You’re just trolling now, folk are really pissed off with what’s happening and you start with your condescending posts. It’s like picking scabs and hoping for a reaction.

Underscore trolling? No chance

[hibsbollah]

Apart from the times when on this site he is declared totally blind or words to that affect, of course.

He’s held up as one of the worst pundits around on this site. Find it funny that when his argument suits though that it becomes an infallible one.

Tom English says Hibs are crap? **** Tom English, what does he know.

Tom English says Hibs have had many decisions against them? Hey look what Tom English says.

Did TE say Hibs are crap?
Did someone on hibs.net declare TE totally blind?

Not sure what your point is really. But If TE says Hibs have had many decisions go against them, he’s spot on.

[Saint Hibee]

Apart from the times when on this site he is declared totally blind or words to that affect, of course.

He’s held up as one of the worst pundits around on this site. Find it funny that when his argument suits though that it becomes an infallible one.

Tom English says Hibs are crap? **** Tom English, what does he know.

Tom English says Hibs have had many decisions against them? Hey look what Tom English says.

He’s a professional Jambo apologist, nothing more, nothing less.

[flash]

Apart from the times when on this site he is declared totally blind or words to that affect, of course.

He’s held up as one of the worst pundits around on this site. Find it funny that when his argument suits though that it becomes an infallible one.

Tom English says Hibs are crap? **** Tom English, what does he know.

Tom English says Hibs have had many decisions against them? Hey look what Tom English says.

So have we have had the rough end of it with decisions this season or not?

[Trinity Hibee]

So have we have had the rough end of it with decisions this season or not?

Jesus, we’ve had some bad decisions yes but so have others. Bad decisions don’t account for poor performances though. Give it a rest

[JohnM1875]

Jesus, we’ve had some bad decisions yes but so have others. Bad decisions don’t account for poor performances though. Give it a rest

Correct

[KeithTheHibby]

Motherwell are a decent team and are a good example of a team sticking with a manager who had a bad run. Rangers and Hearts have also lost recently in Dingwall. Laidlaw gifted Motherwell a couple of goals also.

It’s all about levels though. I suspect Motherwells remit every season is first and foremost don’t get relegated. Top 6 is a massive bonus and anything above that is exceeding expectations. Not making top 6 with Hibs should be a sacking offence.

[Paulie Walnuts]

So have we have had the rough end of it with decisions this season or not?

We’ve had some bad decisions go against us. As have others.

[TrinityHibby]

The mighty Motherwell showed us how good Ross County are, Monty is done

I hope you are right 🤞…..Ross County are absolutely rotten yet Hibs can’t beat them 3 games out of 4 this season …..the fact Nick Montgomery was desperately trying to hold onto a point in the last match to claim it would have been a good result tells me all I need to know about his suitability for the head coach position at HFC 👋

[WhileTheChief..]

If Tom English had said Hibs problems are their own making and nowt to do with refs decisions, you guys would be absolutely slating him on here.

If every 'dodgy' decision that went against us had been reversed, and we'd won more games and points, do you really think NM would be any more popular with the fans?

That's pure fantasy for you right there. Most folk want him gone because they don't think he's a good manager. A few extra wins or points wouldn't have changed that.

We'd still be crap and wanting him replaced. It's got nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with VAR or referees decisions for most of us.

[flash]

Jesus, we’ve had some bad decisions yes but so have others. Bad decisions don’t account for poor performances though. Give it a rest

Give it a rest from providing some context and nuance as to why we missed out on top 6?

No offence but I don't think I will bother thanks.

[flash]

If Tom English had said Hibs problems are their own making and nowt to do with refs decisions, you guys would be absolutely slating him on here.

If every 'dodgy' decision that went against us had been reversed, and we'd won more games and points, do you really think NM would be any more popular with the fans?

That's pure fantasy for you right there. Most folk want him gone because they don't think he's a good manager. A few extra wins or points wouldn't have changed that.

We'd still be crap and wanting him replaced. It's got nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with VAR or referees decisions for most of us.

Did you seriously just say the manager wouldn't be more popular if we had more points and had won more games?

Magnificent.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Give it a rest from providing some context and nuance as to why we missed out on top 6?

No offence but I don't think I will bother thanks.

It’s not context or nuance you’re providing when you point blank refuse to acknowledge that Dundee feel every bit as hard done by as us - just watch Tony Dochertys post match interview yesterday - and can also point to numerous decisions that have went against them. St Mirren can also point to some.

[JimBHibees]

Jesus, we’ve had some bad decisions yes but so have others. Bad decisions don’t account for poor performances though. Give it a rest

Ironically some of the worst decisions were in games we did play well the last derby and Celtic at home. Boyle pen we likely go 2 1 up with 20 or so to go. We should have won the derby anyway but them being gifted a pen was fundamental within the game.

[flash]

It’s not context or nuance you’re providing when you point blank refuse to acknowledge that Dundee feel every bit as hard done by as us - just watch Tony Dochertys post match interview yesterday - and can also point to numerous decisions that have went against them. St Mirren can also point to some.

Fair enough as can Rangers and Celtic apparently.

In fact everyone appears to have been shafted over the course of the season.

Except of course that is literally impossible.

[Wilson]

Give it a rest from providing some context and nuance as to why we missed out on top 6?

No offence but I don't think I will bother thanks.

It isn't context and nuance because you are just beating the sane drum. We had bad decisions. So what? This is Scottish football and we aren't Rangers. It isn't news to anyone. Bad decisions. We get them. As others have said - who doesn’t?

Nobody is buying it because what hibs achieve we do it in seasons littered with bias and bad decisions. It is the same old song. We have bad decisions and finish third. We have bad decisions and finish seventh. The difference is how good the team is and how they cope.

Trotting out the same excuses and dressing it up as context isn't fooling anyone because it reads like what it is. A sob story. The bad men cheated hibs. Fine if you want to believe that. Perhaps we're where we belong because we're not good at winning?

[JimBHibees]

Jesus, we’ve had some bad decisions yes but so have others. Bad decisions don’t account for poor performances though. Give it a rest

Not to the same extent. The run of games just before the split was utterly ridiculous Celtic Aberdeen Hearts Ross county and St Johnstone at home all massive decisions all going against us. If you genuinely think getting two or three of those decisions wouldn’t have improved our points return you are not being fair imo. Ross county throw in was two points right there.

[WhileTheChief..]

Did you seriously just say the manager wouldn't be more popular if we had more points and had won more games?

Magnificent.

If that's the way you want to interpret my post, then fair enough. I know you like to be spicy with your posts so fair dos.

How many more points or wins do you think we'd have had if the refs weren't against us? Let's be generous and say 10??

You think we'd all be singing NMs praises? You think ER would have been bouncing?

You're so far out of touch it's like you're deliberately trolling us now.

[flash]

If that's the way you want to interpret my post, then fair enough. I know you like to be spicy with your posts so fair dos.

How many more points or wins do you think we'd have had if the refs weren't against us? Let's be generous and say 10??

You think we'd all be singing NMs praises? You think ER would have been bouncing?

You're so far out of touch it's like you're deliberately trolling us now.

I think if we were playing Hertz, Rangers or Celtic this weekend then yes the stadium would have been bouncing.

You need to look up trolling. I never post something then run away.

[JimBHibees]

It isn't context and nuance because you are just beating the sane drum. We had bad decisions. So what? This is Scottish football and we aren't Rangers. It isn't news to anyone. Bad decisions. We get them. As others have said - who doesn’t?

Nobody is buying it because what hibs achieve we do it in seasons littered with bias and bad decisions. It is the same old song. We have bad decisions and finish third. We have bad decisions and finish seventh. The difference is how good the team is and how they cope.

Trotting out the same excuses and dressing it up as context isn't fooling anyone because it reads like what it is. A sob story. The bad men cheated hibs. Fine if you want to believe that. Perhaps we're where we belong because we're not good at winning?

The two aren’t mutually exclusive we aren’t a good team and are very good at gifting points away however to say a catalogue of shocking decisions game after game after game at a fundamental time of the season wouldn’t impact where we ended up to me isn’t fair and does provide context. It also to me puts an incorrect perspective on how we are doing and what we could still have achieved eg possibly qualifying for Europe.

[flash]

It isn't context and nuance because you are just beating the sane drum. We had bad decisions. So what? This is Scottish football and we aren't Rangers. It isn't news to anyone. Bad decisions. We get them. As others have said - who doesn’t?

Nobody is buying it because what hibs achieve we do it in seasons littered with bias and bad decisions. It is the same old song. We have bad decisions and finish third. We have bad decisions and finish seventh. The difference is how good the team is and how they cope.

Trotting out the same excuses and dressing it up as context isn't fooling anyone because it reads like what it is. A sob story. The bad men cheated hibs. Fine if you want to believe that. Perhaps we're where we belong because we're not good at winning?

As regards your last sentence can't it be a bit of both?

[B.H.F.C]

I think if we were playing Hertz, Rangers or Celtic this weekend then yes the stadium would have been bouncing.

You need to look up trolling. I never post something then run away.

Hearts it would be. Rangers and Celtic games are becoming fairly predictable and the attendances have been really poor for them this season.

[easty]

Ironically some of the worst decisions were in games we did play well the last derby and Celtic at home. Boyle pen we likely go 2 1 up with 20 or so to go. We should have won the derby anyway but them being gifted a pen was fundamental within the game.

Do we “likely” go 2-1 up? Boyle had a pen vs them this season and missed.

[easty]

Why we weren’t near relegation this season and he joined when we were bottom and had no points from three winnable games

We had 3 points from 4 games when he joined, and we were sitting 10th.

One point behind Hearts at that time. How many points behind them are we now after Montys games?

We’d scored 7 and conceded 7 in the 4 games before he joined. Amazing that Monty didn’t think to do anything to sort out our obvious failing, which was clearly the defence.

But he needs more time to get his own players in apparently. 21 games in charge between his first game and the end of the transfer window in January and bringing in his own players gave us a defender who isn’t even good enough to play in defence for us!

[flash]

Hearts it would be. Rangers and Celtic games are becoming fairly predictable and the attendances have been really poor for them this season.

To be fair we deserved at least a point, probably three, last time Celtic visited so you never know.

[JimBHibees]

Do we “likely” go 2-1 up? Boyle had a pen vs them this season and missed.

More than likely we do

[WhileTheChief..]

I think if we were playing Hertz, Rangers or Celtic this weekend then yes the stadium would have been bouncing.

You need to look up trolling. I never post something then run away.


A few extra points on the board would have made no difference to people's feelings about NM. We'd still want him replaced.

You've even said you'd like to see him gone so I dunno why you're trying to pull me up for what I said.

[JimBHibees]

We had 3 points from 4 games when he joined, and we were sitting 10th.

One point behind Hearts at that time. How many points behind them are we now after Montys games?

We’d scored 7 and conceded 7 in the 4 games before he joined. Amazing that Monty didn’t think to do anything to sort out our obvious failing, which was clearly the defence.

But he needs more time to get his own players in apparently. 21 games in charge between his first game and the end of the transfer window in January and bringing in his own players gave us a defender who isn’t even good enough to play in defence for us!

I get it isn’t anywhere near good enough though think we would have been top 6. Defensively we have been poor though pretty sure Hanlon wasn’t available the first few games Triantis played. Agree we should have got an experienced centre back in Jan.

[snedzuk]

Not to the same extent. The run of games just before the split was utterly ridiculous Celtic Aberdeen Hearts Ross county and St Johnstone at home all massive decisions all going against us. If you genuinely think getting two or three of those decisions wouldn’t have improved our points return you are not being fair imo. Ross county throw in was two points right there.

They didn't score from a throw in though. Hibs still had to defend it and switched off. Plus two minutes before Marshall pulled off a wonder save to keep it at 2.1 Hibs.

[JimBHibees]

They didn't score from a throw in though. Hibs still had to defend it and switched off. Plus two minutes before Marshall pulled off a wonder save to keep it at 2.1 Hibs.

Absolutely

[BILLYHIBS]

They didn't score from a throw in though. Hibs still had to defend it and switched off. Plus two minutes before Marshall pulled off a wonder save to keep it at 2.1 Hibs.
Aye but not 20 yards away from where the ball originally went out ?

There are liberties and liberties ?

Referee had to be stricter unfair advantage

[easty]

They didn't score from a throw in though. Hibs still had to defend it and switched off. Plus two minutes before Marshall pulled off a wonder save to keep it at 2.1 Hibs.

Aye.

If you go back and look at that goal. The position the throw in was taken is clearly wrong. But the throw in comes in and the balls passed back out at first to a deeper County player. It’s not like it was a long throw taken from the wrong place that cuts out our whole team. After the throw comes in and is passed back out, we’ve got 10 players between ball and goal. More than they do. Plenty opportunity to defend that. We just didnae.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Aye.

If you go back and look at that goal. The position the throw in was taken is clearly wrong. But the throw in comes in and the balls passed back out at first to a deeper County player. It’s not like it was a long throw taken from the wrong place that cuts out our whole team. After the throw comes in and is passed back out, we’ve got 10 players between ball and goal. More than they do. Plenty opportunity to defend that. We just didnae.

:agree:

[The Modfather]

We had 3 points from 4 games when he joined, and we were sitting 10th.

One point behind Hearts at that time. How many points behind them are we now after Montys games?

We’d scored 7 and conceded 7 in the 4 games before he joined. Amazing that Monty didn’t think to do anything to sort out our obvious failing, which was clearly the defence.

But he needs more time to get his own players in apparently. 21 games in charge between his first game and the end of the transfer window in January and bringing in his own players gave us a defender who isn’t even good enough to play in defence for us!

In amongst the many reasons Montgomery will be fortunate to see next season, you can agree he was dealt a bad hand though can’t you? The spine he inherited was Marshall, Hanlon/Rocky/Fish/Harbottle, Newell/Jeggo/Campbell/Levitt/JDH/Delfierre that’s the spine that looks likely to cost two managers their job in the same season and a spine that doesn’t excel at anything.

Inheriting that spine and then having to rebuild our defence and midfield as a minimum in a single January window, something we haven’t been able to do over 5 or 6 Windows’s, isn’t a great job to walk into.

[easty]

In amongst the many reasons Montgomery will be fortunate to see next season, you can agree he was dealt a bad hand though can’t you? The spine he inherited was Marshall, Hanlon/Rocky/Fish/Harbottle, Newell/Jeggo/Campbell/Levitt/JDH/Delfierre that’s the spine that looks likely to cost two managers their job in the same season and a spine that doesn’t excel at anything.

Inheriting that spine and then having to rebuild our defence and midfield as a minimum in a single January window, something we haven’t been able to do over 5 or 6 Windows’s, isn’t a great job to walk into.

I can totally sympathise with the fact he came in and had a side who struggled defensively. We scored goals, and had good attacking players, but we’re awful at keeping clean sheets.

I’m giving him zero leeway on not dealing with the defence in January though. He knew it needed sorted. It didn’t have to be a long term solution, but we had to do something that saw us concede less goals in the short term. He did nowt. Triantis was a terrible decision. That’s on him.

He doesn’t get enough out of what he has, and that’s not changed since the day he came in. Bottom line for me. He’s had enough time.

[A Hi-Bee]

How many stewards enquiries can we look back over, time to look forward, no matter who is in charge, Hibs will be getting better over time, we have let the angry gunts from over the road get so far ahead of us financially this is what is telling now.
We now have a chance of catching up, with the Black knights behind us, just need to use the cash that will come in wisely, and remember that Foley said an initial pay of 6mill so there will be more.
Things will get better.

GGTTH
:flag::flag::flag:

[Donegal Hibby]

Aye.

If you go back and look at that goal. The position the throw in was taken is clearly wrong. But the throw in comes in and the balls passed back out at first to a deeper County player. It’s not like it was a long throw taken from the wrong place that cuts out our whole team. After the throw comes in and is passed back out, we’ve got 10 players between ball and goal. More than they do. Plenty opportunity to defend that. We just didnae.

Simple fact of it all is Ross county should never have got the throw in as it was Hibs throw , just another terrible decision in a long line of them this season that's altered our games and not in a good way .

[Winston Ingram]

We had 3 points from 4 games when he joined, and we were sitting 10th.

One point behind Hearts at that time. How many points behind them are we now after Montys games?

We’d scored 7 and conceded 7 in the 4 games before he joined. Amazing that Monty didn’t think to do anything to sort out our obvious failing, which was clearly the defence.

But he needs more time to get his own players in apparently. 21 games in charge between his first game and the end of the transfer window in January and bringing in his own players gave us a defender who isn’t even good enough to play in defence for us!

…after stating at the start of the window that we needed to bring in an experienced centre back.

Experienced to him is a 20 yr old defender who had played 2 club games at a decent level before joining us🥴

[The Modfather]

I can totally sympathise with the fact he came in and had a side who struggled defensively. We scored goals, and had good attacking players, but we’re awful at keeping clean sheets.

I’m giving him zero leeway on not dealing with the defence in January though. He knew it needed sorted. It didn’t have to be a long term solution, but we had to do something that saw us concede less goals in the short term. He did nowt. Triantis was a terrible decision. That’s on him.

He doesn’t get enough out of what he has, and that’s not changed since the day he came in. Bottom line for me. He’s had enough time.

I don’t think Monty gets off scot free for not properly addressing the defence in January. However, to do so costs money. Someone who isn’t just a good defender individually as that case has been made for all of our defenders at various times but whatever combination they are woeful collectively. Signing a defender who drags those around him up would probably have had to be at the expense of NMW or Maolida. Which would then lead to criticism for not fixing the midfield and it still being one paced and unathletic.

From the spine he inherited only Newell, who himself badly divides opinion, is someone the majority want to see in the team next season. That in itself shows the scale of the job Monty took over and the challenge just to survive until having an actual summer window.

[BoomtownHibees]

…after stating at the start of the window that we needed to bring in an experienced centre back.

Experienced to him is a 20 yr old defender who had played 2 club games at a decent level before joining us🥴

Maybe that’s all he was allowed to bring in. Maybe the budget couldn’t be stretched any further. That’s no really his fault is it?

[Brightside]

Maybe that’s all he was allowed to bring in. Maybe the budget couldn’t be stretched any further. That’s no really his fault is it?

Correct. An experienced CB was not available in Jan. let’s see what the summer brings.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Simple fact of it all is Ross county should never have got the throw in as it was Hibs throw , just another terrible decision in a long line of them this season that's altered our games and not in a good way .

We’ll have also had thrown ins, free kicks, corners etc awarded to us this season that shouldn’t have been. Every team will have.

As easty has said, they didn’t score from the throw in. The throw in was giving, then we went on to concede such a simple goal.

[easty]

Simple fact of it all is Ross county should never have got the throw in as it was Hibs throw , just another terrible decision in a long line of them this season that's altered our games and not in a good way .

Aye, but you’ll always get fouls etc given or not given, and that’s always been the case. Var doesn’t get involved in everything.

It’s not the reason we lost the goal.

[easty]

Maybe that’s all he was allowed to bring in. Maybe the budget couldn’t be stretched any further. That’s no really his fault is it?

If the budget only stretched to 2 quality players (Maolida and Marcondes) then we should have prioritised the defence and not signed one of those 2.

Scoring goals was nowhere near the issue stopping them was/is.

[easty]

Correct. An experienced CB was not available in Jan. let’s see what the summer brings.

Based on what, were there no experienced centre halfs available in Jan?

[jeffers]

Based on what, were there no experienced centre halfs available in Jan?

Was Jason Kerr not available ?

[hibeerealist]

I hope you are right 🤞…..Ross County are absolutely rotten yet Hibs can’t beat them 3 games out of 4 this season …..the fact Nick Montgomery was desperately trying to hold onto a point in the last match to claim it would have been a good result tells me all I need to know about his suitability for the head coach position at HFC 👋


I am knocked out by the (fingers on a jambo hand = 6) fingers on one hand that are for keeping Monty and giving him the summer Transfer Window, has he not done enough damage!!??

Incredible

[Forza Fred]

Was Jason Kerr not available ?

Last I checked, his future was still up in the air…

He wants to stay at Wigan, but they are not sure if they can afford to renew his contract.

[GreenCastle]

Correct. An experienced CB was not available in Jan. let’s see what the summer brings.

So we signed an injured Owen Beven who is 20 years old and didn’t play a single minute for us.

Makes sense.

[McIntosh]

We make appointments in hope rather than expectation. In management, if you are going to fail, fail early. Montgomery has been set a very clear reasonable target, top of the group, if he doesn't achieve that then the axe needs to fall quickly. If he succeeds, he has the summer to build a team, starting with securing experienced and commanding centre half and sweeper.

[Wheat Hound]

Starts the same 11 as last week. Good to reward such a cracking performance 👏

[McIntosh]

Was Jason Kerr not available ? He should be the top of the list!!!

[blackpoolhibs]

So have we have had the rough end of it with decisions this season or not?

I think we've had a lot of contentious decisions go against us this season, some shocking ones.

I've not watched other teams, so apart from when they play us, i've no idea if they are moaning about it too?

[blackpoolhibs]

In amongst the many reasons Montgomery will be fortunate to see next season, you can agree he was dealt a bad hand though can’t you? The spine he inherited was Marshall, Hanlon/Rocky/Fish/Harbottle, Newell/Jeggo/Campbell/Levitt/JDH/Delfierre that’s the spine that looks likely to cost two managers their job in the same season and a spine that doesn’t excel at anything.

Inheriting that spine and then having to rebuild our defence and midfield as a minimum in a single January window, something we haven’t been able to do over 5 or 6 Windows’s, isn’t a great job to walk into.

We had not struggled to score goals before Monty came in, a blind chimp could see keeping the ball out at the other end was our problem.

What did he do to rectify that?

[Brightside]

Was Jason Kerr not available ?

No. And you know this.

[The Modfather]

We had not struggled to score goals before Monty came in, a blind chimp could see keeping the ball out at the other end was our problem.

What did he do to rectify that?

Going into January I thought the midfield was as big, if not bigger that the defence. Sort the defence in January and it’s then a midfield of Jeggo, Levitt & Newell. Frightening.

There was so many fundamental fires needed fighting in January IMO.

[Smartie]

No. And you know this.

Did he not nearly join Aberdeen?

Or was that just a wild rumour?

[blackpoolhibs]

Going into January I thought the midfield was as big, if not bigger that the defence. Sort the defence in January and it’s then a midfield of Jeggo, Levitt & Newell. Frightening.

There was so many fundamental fires needed fighting in January IMO.

I agree, midfield was poor but we did seem to lose a lot of goals through bad defending and poor goalkeeping.

Even with a better midfield, we are still doing the same now.

[jeffers]

No. And you know this.

:hmmm:

[SteveHFC]

Get him to ****.

Fans have had enough.

[mcfly]

Anyone who thinks this manager can turn this around needs to have re think.

Hibs HAVE to get rid and get in an experienced manager.

What has been allowed to happen to this great club is nothing short of a disgrace. The board should be ashamed

[SlickShoes]

Clueless

[Del Boy]

He’s got to be a goner. Sooner the better but surely by this time next week he will have been emptied.

[Scottie]

He’s got to be a goner. Sooner the better but surely by this time next week he will have been emptied.
I hope so but it’s also every single player that needs to go. I’d list the lot of them hopeless.

[GreenCastle]

Should have been binned months ago - we deserve everything that’s happening just now as the incompetent people running our club have no idea how to lead.

[GordonHFC]

Sack him at HT

[Scorrie]

Sack him at HT

I was actually thinking the same! This is so bad

[H18 SFR]

So glad we had the best January transfer window ever, imagine where NM could have taken us down to otherwise.

[Since452]

VAR's fault

[Vault Boy]

Genuinely pathetic that we’re dragging out the inevitable this long. Just cut our losses and at the very least we’ll have plenty of time to bring in a new manager and plan for the summer. Paul and Lewis as caretakers, **** it.

[Since452]

Must be about 7k there today. This utter waffling buffoon has outdone himself. Why hasn't he been sacked yet?

[Trinity Hibee]

He simply has to go. He’s lost a lot of the fan base just at LJ had.

That being said, we need a mass clear out on the playing side. They are all an utter embarrassment

[Alfred E Newman]

I actually feel sorry for Monty having to rely on this shower of crappers to keep him in a job. I feel even more sympathy for his successor who will be lumbered with a squad that will still contain a fair proportion of these losers.