They got it wrong again

[StevieT]

I see that the SFA has admitted that Hearts should not have had a penalty against us at Tynecastle, and that we should have had one for the keeper v Marcondes at Easter Road.

How can they keep on getting these things wrong?

[Donegal Hibby]

The penalty against St Johnstone we should have got , what stage of the game was that in again ? .

[04Sauzee]

The penalty against St Johnstone we should have got , what stage of the game was that in again ? .

9 minutes 0-0

[Northernhibee]

The penalty against St Johnstone we should have got , what stage of the game was that in again ? .

Just now, getting the first goal is important to us. If we let a team like St Johnstone be able to sit in against us, it makes life difficult. We seen the impact an early goal can have this weekend just passed and also against Livi at home.

I reckon if that penalty is given we would have gone on to pump them.

[Hibs90]

I see that the SFA has admitted that Hearts should not have had a penalty against us at Tynecastle, and that we should have had one for the keeper v Marcondes at Easter Road.

How can they keep on getting these things wrong?

Got a link for this?

[BILLYHIBS]

It was the arrogance and ineptitude of Willie Gollum at Tiny that got me he knew he got it wrong went to check the monitor to make sure he got it wrong yet still stuck by his guns if we were The Rangers no way he is giving that a total dive by a diving bassa

[04Sauzee]

Got a link for this?

BBC News - VAR review panel finds 10 new Premiership errors - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c1ej04w2gx2o

[hibbydad]

It was the arrogance and ineptitude of Willie Gollum at Tiny that got me he knew he got it wrong went to check the monitor to make sure he got it wrong yet still stuck by his guns if we were The Rangers no way he is giving that a total dive by a diving bassa
Not Colum Clancy

[Hibs90]

BBC News - VAR review panel finds 10 new Premiership errors - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c1ej04w2gx2o

Cheers.

Ref being a clown then.

[wookie70]

That list of 10 misses some very obvious errors involving us including possibly the worst decision of all with the handball in Aberdeen. If it was a League Table Hearts would be top with 3 decisions in their favour and only one against. No other team has any more than one in their favour. St Mirren would be bottom with 3 against and none in favour and us and The Rangers second bottom on 2 against and none in favour. The state of our officiating is an unhealthy mix of anti-football, corrupt and dreadful.

[Donegal Hibby]

9 minutes 0-0

Thanks 👍


Just now, getting the first goal is important to us. If we let a team like St Johnstone be able to sit in against us, it makes life difficult. We seen the impact an early goal can have this weekend just passed and also against Livi at home.

I reckon if that penalty is given we would have gone on to pump them.

We get that penalty and go 1 up it changes the game alright . Amount of decisions we haven't got or has went against us this season is shocking.

[cubehindthegoal]

I see that the SFA has admitted that Hearts should not have had a penalty against us at Tynecastle, and that we should have had one for the keeper v Marcondes at Easter Road.

How can they keep on getting these things wrong?

So what are they doing about it … to rectify it, and compensate us ? SFA I’m guessing.

[gbhibby]

VAR was meant to stop wrong decisions being made. There is absolutely no excuses for them getting things wrong. I think we as a club have had more wrong decisions against us this season. There have been clear and obvious offences committed which get a quick check, but one team especially seemed to have things forensically looked at. There is an incredible lack of consistency with VAR which needs to be addressed. If there is nothing to hide let the VAR exchanges be broadcast to the people in the stadium. Fully professional refs would also help as they will have more time to analyse their errors both on the field and at the VAR location. Most of the errors they have mentioned were highlighted on Sportscene.

[cubehindthegoal]

BBC News - VAR review panel finds 10 new Premiership errors - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c1ej04w2gx2o

Do they explain why it took so long afterwards to a) find the errors and b) do something about it ? Oh wait … they haven’t yet done anything to rectify it … it’s the clubs and fans who suffer. And they won’t … shame on them.

Who gains, I wonder, from these “errors” … and who asks that question in the media or the SFA or anywhere that will actually force change, and call out “errors” (or cheating) ? No-one.

Shame.

[SHODAN]

Amazing that refereeing mistakes in the Edinburgh derby all seem to go in favour of one team.

[GloryGlory]

Amazing that refereeing mistakes in the Edinburgh derby all seem to go in favour of one team.

Amazing that Rantic seem to feature so much in these lists. NOT! And yet we all know they get the benefit of the doubt stretched to breaking point when referred for VAR review.

[Northernhibee]

It’s absolutely insane that they’re trying to present Rangers as hard done by from VAR. Gaslighting.

[hibsbollah]

I was watching highlights of the chelsea barca womens game, where a ridiculous, disgraceful second yellow decision (wasnt even a foul), basically destroyed chelseas chances of winning. VAR couldnt look at it because technically its a yellow, not a red, seems to be a clear absence of logic. What is the point of not allowing VAR to look at these situations? Makes no sense.

Even where you think occasionally VAR might be of benefit, the way daft implementation and delivery is just wrong in so many ways.

[supermcginn]

It was the arrogance and ineptitude of Willie Gollum at Tiny that got me he knew he got it wrong went to check the monitor to make sure he got it wrong yet still stuck by his guns if we were The Rangers no way he is giving that a total dive by a diving bassa

It was Clancy, no ref has shafted us more than him in the last ten years it's constant. The fact Var told him he made the wrong decision and he still stuck with it is unbelievable, surely he should have been demoted for a few games.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Amazing that refereeing mistakes in the Edinburgh derby all seem to go in favour of one team.

Very true.

I can think of very few dodgy decisions we've had in derbies. The penalty in the covid Cup semi final at an empty hampden, which we of course missed anyway. That's about it. Even then they cancelled it out by giving them a dodgy pen a few mins later.

I do know football fans will generally remember decisions that go against them more than ones for them but I honestly can't think of too many others.

Hearts seem to get a few. Two perfectly good goals crossed out for a start (Griffiths and Shaw)

[BILLYHIBS]

Not Colum Clancy

Sorry was getting mixed up with the 2-2 game at Tiny

[500miles]

These are just the mistakes they admit to, and it amounts to one every single week.

Now do the rest!

[Caversham Green]

BBC News - VAR review panel finds 10 new Premiership errors - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c1ej04w2gx2o

Four of those claim that the VAR review was correct and it was the ref on the ground that still got it wrong so that makes only six actual VAR errors. I don't believe for a minute that's the extent of VAR errors. I suspect every club in the Premiership will have several instances where they were incorrectly penalised through VAR's action or inaction but somehow, like the Devlin hand ball the review panel has missed them.


I was watching highlights of the chelsea barca womens game, where a ridiculous, disgraceful second yellow decision (wasnt even a foul), basically destroyed chelseas chances of winning. VAR couldnt look at it because technically its a yellow, not a red, seems to be a clear absence of logic. What is the point of not allowing VAR to look at these situations? Makes no sense.

Even where you think occasionally VAR might be of benefit, the way daft implementation and delivery is just wrong in so many ways.

Agreed. VAR should be available to review every significant event regardless of its nature - and significant event here includes throw ins given the wrong way or taken from the wrong place where they lead to a goal.

[BILLYHIBS]

Common sense and spontaneity seems to have gone out the window remember Rocky’s handball versus Hearts ?

No one claimed for it or even noticed it in the Stadium but slowed down to a nanosecond per 1000th the ball travelled along his arm in the coming together penalty to Hearts an accidental clash of heads with Triantis in the box penalty to Celtic Newell blocks a shot in the box goes past the post accidentally hits his hand on the way through penalty to Celtic

Were any of the above reviewed by the panel ?

Not that it matters after the event the damage is done

Struggling to remember any benefit for Hibs in 2023/24 ?

[Kato]

Common sense and spontaneity seems to have gone out the window remember Rocky’s handball versus Hearts ?

No one claimed for it or even noticed it in the Stadium but slowed down to a nanosecond per 1000th the ball travelled along his arm in the coming together penalty to Hearts an accidental clash of heads with Triantis in the box penalty to Celtic Newell blocks a shot in the box goes past the post accidentally hits his hand on the way through penalty to Celtic

Were any of the above reviewed by the panel ?

Not that it matters after the event the damage is done

Struggling to remember any benefit for Hibs in 1923/2024 ?

Ftfy

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[CropleyWasGod]

Common sense and spontaneity seems to have gone out the window remember Rocky’s handball versus Hearts ?

No one claimed for it or even noticed it in the Stadium but slowed down to a nanosecond per 1000th the ball travelled along his arm in the coming together penalty to Hearts an accidental clash of heads with Triantis in the box penalty to Celtic Newell blocks a shot in the box goes past the post accidentally hits his hand on the way through penalty to Celtic

Were any of the above reviewed by the panel ?

Not that it matters after the event the damage is done

Struggling to remember any benefit for Hibs in 2023/24 ?

The Hearts guy who put in the cross (Cochrane?) claimed for it straight away. I was right behind him. To me, it was definitely a handball in the moment. My only doubt was the colour of the jersey.

[Tyler Durden]

Do they explain why it took so long afterwards to a) find the errors and b) do something about it ? Oh wait … they haven’t yet done anything to rectify it … it’s the clubs and fans who suffer. And they won’t … shame on them.

Who gains, I wonder, from these “errors” … and who asks that question in the media or the SFA or anywhere that will actually force change, and call out “errors” (or cheating) ? No-one.

Shame.

They do a review after every "round" of league games. Presumably they'll do a final update after the split.

Hibs needed to be more vocal after the derby and we should be more vocal now.

[BILLYHIBS]

The Hearts guy who put in the cross (Cochrane?) claimed for it straight away. I was right behind him. To me, it was definitely a handball in the moment. My only doubt was the colour of the jersey.

Ah maybe it was just me that never noticed it :greengrin

I am near the away end of the West and the yams were just as surprised as me

[K-Zazu]

Clancy actually got told to go over to the VAR monitor and still stuck with his original decision. I actually think it’s the worst decision I’ve ever seen.

[matty_f]

They do a review after every "round" of league games. Presumably they'll do a final update after the split.

Hibs needed to be more vocal after the derby and we should be more vocal now.

It should be a focal point in our comms in the run up to the next derby. Make a big deal of VAR not going in our favour, the importance of using it properly, and treating both teams the same etc. Shine a light on it.

[CMac1988]

It should be a focal point in our comms in the run up to the next derby. Make a big deal of VAR not going in our favour, the importance of using it properly, and treating both teams the same etc. Shine a light on it.

Our club rarely if ever deploys tactics such as these. Anything to apply a bit of pressure on the governing body and referees would help give us an edge at times that we're solely missing. Same applies to our 'street' smarts on the pitch with regards to houndung the ref and time wasting etc.

Too nice at times trying to do everything by the book. As much as I'm not keen on working our way up the statement league I would've made a public statement asking why the Devlin hadnball wasn't in the VAR error report.

[GloryGlory]

It should be a focal point in our comms in the run up to the next derby. Make a big deal of VAR not going in our favour, the importance of using it properly, and treating both teams the same etc. Shine a light on it.

The history of Hertz getting outrageous refereeing decisions in their favour in derbies long predates VAR. I can remember things like the Griffiths "goal" that only the ref couldn't see had crossed the line by miles, non sendings off, non penalties and other decisions.

[JimBHibees]

The history of Hertz getting outrageous refereeing decisions in their favour in derbies long predates VAR. I can remember things like the Griffiths "goal" that only the ref couldn't see had crossed the line by miles, non sendings off, non penalties and other decisions.

Absolutely loads of decisions in derbies three or four retrospective reds all of which in the first half of games not given at the match. Can remember the Tatooed lady freak trying to do McPake with over the ball tackle clear red? Collum and he has been involved in many deciding only a yellow.

[linlithgowhibbie]

The history of Hertz getting outrageous refereeing decisions in their favour in derbies long predates VAR. I can remember things like the Griffiths "goal" that only the ref couldn't see had crossed the line by miles, non sendings off, non penalties and other decisions.

Not only the ref. Theeast stand linesman turned a blind pair of eyes towards it too!:confused:

[Crab apple]

It was Clancy, no ref has shafted us more than him in the last ten years it's constant. The fact Var told him he made the wrong decision and he still stuck with it is unbelievable, surely he should have been demoted for a few games.

There is something very wrong in our relationship with Clancy which goes well beyond him being simply incompetent.

[matty_f]

Not only the ref. Theeast stand linesman turned a blind pair of eyes towards it too!:confused:

Jordan Foster's goal being disallowed at Tiny for offside when he was yards onside was another pisser. Happened at 1-0 in the relegation party derby, they scored again on the break late on as we chased a goal. That was a disgrace.

[Johnny_Leith]

Jordan Foster's goal being disallowed at Tiny for offside when he was yards onside was another pisser. Happened at 1-0 in the relegation party derby, they scored again on the break late on as we chased a goal. That was a disgrace.

Ultimately that relegated us. He was so far inside there was no doubt in my mind that was cheating.

We were the better team with all the momentum, we'd have beaten them if that goal had stood.

[Tyler Durden]

Ultimately that relegated us. He was so far inside there was no doubt in my mind that was cheating.

We were the better team with all the momentum, we'd have beaten them if that goal had stood.

This one grates the most by far. They have a good laugh now about how we turned up for a party etc, but of course this decision is totally forgotten.

Having said all that...... I can half understand what happened. The Hearts player was so far out of the picture that the lino possibly just didn't even realise he was there. You look along the defensive line and Forster looks offside. Then you realise there is a Hearts player closer to the touchline that the linesman even was. I think anyway.....

The sort of thing that VAR would have sorted of course :rolleyes:

[Smartie]

This one grates the most by far. They have a good laugh now about how we turned up for a party etc, but of course this decision is totally forgotten.

Having said all that...... I can half understand what happened. The Hearts player was so far out of the picture that the lino possibly just didn't even realise he was there. You look along the defensive line and Forster looks offside. Then you realise there is a Hearts player closer to the touchline that the linesman even was. I think anyway.....

The sort of thing that VAR would have sorted of course :rolleyes:

I remember there being a "you are the linesman" series of videos online a few years back and you had to give various offside decisions that were complicated by players being in the way, players moving quickly in opposite directions, passes deflecting etc and it was nightmarishly difficult.

It actually gave me a bit of an appreciation of the role of a linesman - and it's actually incredible how good they are and how few decisions they actually get wrong.

The Forster one was about as bad as you get but even then there were mitigating circumstances, as you point out.

[ekhibee]

Although the Hearts decision was disgraceful, for me the Aberdeen one was the worst of the lot in my opinion.

[ekhibee]

The history of Hertz getting outrageous refereeing decisions in their favour in derbies long predates VAR. I can remember things like the Griffiths "goal" that only the ref couldn't see had crossed the line by miles, non sendings off, non penalties and other decisions.

That is, in my opinion, the worst decision I've ever seen in a derby game, comparable with Frank Lampard's disallowed goal against Germany in the World Cup.

[gbhibby]

Not only the ref. Theeast stand linesman turned a blind pair of eyes towards it too!:confused:
Yes he was seen clearly mouthing it to Leigh, it was so far over the line it nearly knocked pints over on the bar at the Persevere.

[gbhibby]

I remember there being a "you are the linesman" series of videos online a few years back and you had to give various offside decisions that were complicated by players being in the way, players moving quickly in opposite directions, passes deflecting etc and it was nightmarishly difficult.

It actually gave me a bit of an appreciation of the role of a linesman - and it's actually incredible how good they are and how few decisions they actually get wrong.

The Forster one was about as bad as you get but even then there were mitigating circumstances, as you point out.

Both refereeing and being a linesman is not an easy job but VAR was brought in help and cut out errors that happen
Refs and linesmen are well paid for each game. The association needs to look at how they can improve things and learn lessons. The standard of refereeing in England has improved since they became professional so maybe they is the way forward.

[ShetlandHibby]

Imagine where we could’ve been had they got decisions correct. I’d imagine we’d be closer to third than languishing in the bottom six

[we are hibs]

I see they are lining up former English ref Jon Moss to take over from Crawford Allan as head of refereeing.

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[MKHIBEE]

This one grates the most by far. They have a good laugh now about how we turned up for a party etc, but of course this decision is totally forgotten.

Having said all that...... I can half understand what happened. The Hearts player was so far out of the picture that the lino possibly just didn't even realise he was there. You look along the defensive line and Forster looks offside. Then you realise there is a Hearts player closer to the touchline that the linesman even was. I think anyway.....

The sort of thing that VAR would have sorted of course :rolleyes:


“The hearts player on the far side isn’t interfering with play. The on field decision stands”.

[Kato]

Yes he was seen clearly mouthing it to Leigh, it was so far over the line it nearly knocked pints over on the bar at the Persevere.He told the Hibs players on the park it wasn't over the line then it came out in the press he said that he couldn't see it. A liar as well as a cheat.

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[JimBHibees]

Ultimately that relegated us. He was so far inside there was no doubt in my mind that was cheating.

We were the better team with all the momentum, we'd have beaten them if that goal had stood.

The player playing him on was literally yards away from the linesman who called it.

[JimBHibees]

Imagine where we could’ve been had they got decisions correct. I’d imagine we’d be closer to third than languishing in the bottom six

Agree

[we are hibs]

He told the Hibs players on the park it wasn't over the line then it came out in the press he said that he couldn't see it. A liar as well as a cheat.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkNot the first time that's happened to us. In Falkirk play off home match Alan Muir claimed he didn't see the Falkirk player on the deck handle the ball twice. A TV replay showed him staring right at it with an unrestricted view. It wasn't even a split second hand ball either the guy literally rolled the ball with his hand.







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[greenlex]

I see they are lining up former English ref Jon Moss to take over from Crawford Allan as head of refereeing.

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As long as he doesn’t bring Boy George with him I’m cool with that.

[gbhibby]

As long as he doesn’t bring Boy George with him I’m cool with that.

It's already a Culture Club he is joining or perhaps the Church of a poisoned mind.

[Bristolhibby]

I was watching highlights of the chelsea barca womens game, where a ridiculous, disgraceful second yellow decision (wasnt even a foul), basically destroyed chelseas chances of winning. VAR couldnt look at it because technically its a yellow, not a red, seems to be a clear absence of logic. What is the point of not allowing VAR to look at these situations? Makes no sense.

Even where you think occasionally VAR might be of benefit, the way daft implementation and delivery is just wrong in so many ways.

Smacks back to the Scottish rugby team in the 2015 Rugby World Cup.

Wrong decision called, gave a penalty to Australia that won them the game. Ref could see he ***ued up on the big screens but wasn’t allowed to go to TMO to review. Australia won and Scotland missed out in a winnable semi final v Argentina.

At least World Rugby changed the laws post competition to allow referees and TMOs to review offside incidents and the likes.

Here’s the incident and the reasoning why he couldn’t change his decision. Again Scotland getting shafted.

https://youtu.be/12R5jGbU8NY?si=jOyVFv3Vf_K0X1PD

J

[Mrimbetween]

All teams get shated by our Refs because they are pretty much ***** and gutless

[Donegal Hibby]

Agree with everything Monty says here . Ridiculous the amount of decisions that's went against us this season.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/var-admission-a-punch-in-face-frustrated-hibs-gaffer-scottish-premiership-referees-edinburgh-derby-4615919

[gbhibby]

Agree with everything Monty says here . Ridiculous the amount of decisions that's went against us this season.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/var-admission-a-punch-in-face-frustrated-hibs-gaffer-scottish-premiership-referees-edinburgh-derby-4615919
The refs must watch Sportscene as these incidents have been highlighted on the show. Sportscence pundits seem to call it right.

[JimBHibees]

All teams get shated by our Refs because they are pretty much ***** and gutless

They don’t equally that is the issue

[where'stheslope]

Some times I wonder if VAR takes to long to make decisions, so they try and speed it up and get them wrong.
Remember the Old Firm game when they showed the offside lines in the middle of the second half when everyone thought it was a Huns penalty in the first half?
But most of the time, you have to think its down to the leaning of the officials to certain clubs!!!!

[B.H.F.C]

“FORMER footie officials are “raging” after their Scottish Cup Final hospitality tickets were axed”

Given the participants, I bet you are lads.

[The Harp Awakes]

Amazing that refereeing mistakes in the Edinburgh derby all seem to go in favour of one team.

I can think of 6 blatant referring errors in their favour in my lifetime watching derbies. I can't remember any errors going in our favour:

1. Griffiths goal that hit the back of the net and came out.
2. Grant Brebner sending off.
3. Jordan Foster goal at Tiny ruled offside when he was 10 yards onside.
4. Pen to Hertz this season.
5. No red in 1st half 2012 Cup Final for elbow on Griffiths
6. Penalty to Hertz in 2012 Cup Final - foul miles outside the box and Hertz player dived inside the box.

How many more have I missed?

[Johnny_Leith]

I can think of 6 blatant referring errors in their favour in my lifetime watching derbies. I can't remember any errors going in our favour:

1. Griffiths goal that hit the back of the net and came out.
2. Grant Brebner sending off.
3. Jordan Foster goal at Tiny ruled offside when he was 10 yards onside.
4. Pen to Hertz this season.
5. No red in 1st half 2012 Cup Final for elbow on Griffiths
6. Penalty to Hertz in 2012 Cup Final - foul miles outside the box and Hertz player dived inside the box.

How many more have I missed?

Oli Shaw goal at tynie. Ryan Stevenson assault on James mcpake which was wildly only given as a yellow (and upgraded retrospectively). Julien brellier breaking Scott browns leg.


In the interest of fairness:
I can remember Ian Murray poleaxing Ian black at Tyne castle which should have been a red but only got a yellow.

John Rankin minimal contact for a penalty around 2010/11.

Other than that, not too many in our favour....

[Donegal Hibby]

Oli Shaw goal at tynie. Ryan Stevenson assault on James mcpake which was wildly only given as a yellow (and upgraded retrospectively). Julien brellier breaking Scott browns leg.


In the interest of fairness:
I can remember Ian Murray poleaxing Ian black at Tyne castle which should have been a red but only got a yellow.

John Rankin minimal contact for a penalty around 2010/11.

Other than that, not too many in our favour....

Probably totally wrong again though did a hertz player not totally clean out a Hibs player going down the left side of the pitch in a game ? . Wish I could remember :confused:

Thought Marc McNulty was very lucky not to get sent off in a game for us too , maybe it wasn't a Derby? .

After reading this on top ten most fouled players in our league . Surprised about two and kinda knew who our one was after some of the tackles he took this season.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/top-10-most-fouled-scottish-premiership-players-this-season-including-hibs-and-hearts-stars-4616003

[MKHIBEE]

Probably totally wrong again though did a hertz player not totally clean out a Hibs player going down the left side of the pitch in a game ? . Wish I could remember :confused:

Thought Marc McNulty was very lucky not to get sent off in a game for us too , maybe it wasn't a Derby? .

After reading this on top ten most fouled players in our league . Surprised about two and kinda knew who our one was after some of the tackles he took this season.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/top-10-most-fouled-scottish-premiership-players-this-season-including-hibs-and-hearts-stars-4616003


IIRC that was the young laddie Cochrane on SJM.

[Bristolhibby]

I can think of 6 blatant referring errors in their favour in my lifetime watching derbies. I can't remember any errors going in our favour:

1. Griffiths goal that hit the back of the net and came out.
2. Grant Brebner sending off.
3. Jordan Foster goal at Tiny ruled offside when he was 10 yards onside.
4. Pen to Hertz this season.
5. No red in 1st half 2012 Cup Final for elbow on Griffiths
6. Penalty to Hertz in 2012 Cup Final - foul miles outside the box and Hertz player dived inside the box.

How many more have I missed?

Those last two were shockers. Pivotal decisions. The ref couldn’t wait to give that penalty.

J

[Johnny_Leith]

Probably totally wrong again though did a hertz player not totally clean out a Hibs player going down the left side of the pitch in a game ? . Wish I could remember :confused:

Thought Marc McNulty was very lucky not to get sent off in a game for us too , maybe it wasn't a Derby? .

After reading this on top ten most fouled players in our league . Surprised about two and kinda knew who our one was after some of the tackles he took this season.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/top-10-most-fouled-scottish-premiership-players-this-season-including-hibs-and-hearts-stars-4616003

Forgot about Mcnulty, yeah you're right sure he stamped a hearts player at Easter road Infront of the ref and just got a yellow? Then missed a pen same game.

[McGruber]

Would really like Hibs to publicly call out the fact that the Aberdeen penalty incident which all pundits were agreed should have been a penalty and we received an apology for from SFA has not been included as an error in the reviews.

I would want the club to ask for an explanation why. Has it been missed? Has it been deemed not an error now?

On the back of us being highlighted as having some bad calls against us this would hammer home the point even more. Would also put SFA and review panel in awkward position if they have to admit they missed an incident in their review.
Would leave the credibility of it as it should be as it's absolute fantasy nonesense.

[JimBHibees]

It's already a Culture Club he is joining or perhaps the Church of a poisoned mind.

Boom boom 😄

[JimBHibees]

“FORMER footie officials are “raging” after their Scottish Cup Final hospitality tickets were axed”

Given the participants, I bet you are lads.

Why should they get any tickets for games? Son was in Dublin for Ireland Scotland and there were a few refs there.

Just reread that former and hospitality are words that stick out. Wow how arrogant to think they merit that absolute gravy train. No doubt getting cosy with club officials getting on well. Totally wrong

[JimBHibees]

I can think of 6 blatant referring errors in their favour in my lifetime watching derbies. I can't remember any errors going in our favour:

1. Griffiths goal that hit the back of the net and came out.
2. Grant Brebner sending off.
3. Jordan Foster goal at Tiny ruled offside when he was 10 yards onside.
4. Pen to Hertz this season.
5. No red in 1st half 2012 Cup Final for elbow on Griffiths
6. Penalty to Hertz in 2012 Cup Final - foul miles outside the box and Hertz player dived inside the box.

How many more have I missed?

Many more Shaw goal, tattoo Stevenson retrospective red McGowan retrospective red Templeton retrospective red all in first half of derbies a wee while back to be fair Fenlon manager a couple of them. Huge decisions

[JimBHibees]

Would really like Hibs to publicly call out the fact that the Aberdeen penalty incident which all pundits were agreed should have been a penalty and we received an apology for from SFA has not been included as an error in the reviews.

I would want the club to ask for an explanation why. Has it been missed? Has it been deemed not an error now?

On the back of us being highlighted as having some bad calls against us this would hammer home the point even more. Would also put SFA and review panel in awkward position if they have to admit they missed an incident in their review.
Would leave the credibility of it as it should be as it's absolute fantasy nonesense.

Think the club are probably thinking along the lines of the more you complain the more their wee mafia group close ranks and give us even less. Do think there is a hierarchy in decisions along the lines of Rangers Celtic Hearts Aberdeen the rest then Hibs only half joking 🙃

[BoomtownHibees]

Think the club are probably thinking along the lines of the more you complain the more their wee mafia group close ranks and give us even less. Do think there is a hierarchy in decisions along the lines of Rangers Celtic Hearts Aberdeen the rest then Hibs only half joking 🙃

BK made that exact point last week at the Hibs First event. Said that although they want to always come out shouting and screaming about things going against us, it feels like it’s had the opposite effect this season

[GreenCastle]

Why should they get any tickets for games? Son was in Dublin for Ireland Scotland and there were a few refs there.

Just reread that former and hospitality are words that stick out. Wow how arrogant to think they merit that absolute gravy train. No doubt getting cosy with club officials getting on well. Totally wrong

They can still apply for x2 tickets and “claim it back”.

[Chorley Hibee]

BK made that exact point last week at the Hibs First event. Said that although they want to always come out shouting and screaming about things going against us, it feels like it’s had the opposite effect this season

So we're backing down and letting them get away with it, again.

That's the reason why we're fair game in their eyes, as they know we'll just roll over and accept it.

Pathetic.

[TrinityHFC]

Would really like Hibs to publicly call out the fact that the Aberdeen penalty incident which all pundits were agreed should have been a penalty and we received an apology for from SFA has not been included as an error in the reviews.

I would want the club to ask for an explanation why. Has it been missed? Has it been deemed not an error now?

On the back of us being highlighted as having some bad calls against us this would hammer home the point even more. Would also put SFA and review panel in awkward position if they have to admit they missed an incident in their review.
Would leave the credibility of it as it should be as it's absolute fantasy nonesense.

As I said on the other thread. The list is about VAR involvements. So they reviewed incidents and either decided to leave it be or to ask the ref to review.

It doesn’t include any where VAR just didn’t get involved at all. A review team would have to watch every minute of every game to figure that one out. So I does t give close to the full story about VAR errors.

[McGruber]

As I said on the other thread. The list is about VAR involvements. So they reviewed incidents and either decided to leave it be or to ask the ref to review.

It doesn’t include any where VAR just didn’t get involved at all. A review team would have to watch every minute of every game to figure that one out. So I does t give close to the full story about VAR errors.

Yeah, you're right - but I'm sure the Aberdeen one was VAR reviewed, the game stopped for the review.

[McGruber]

Think the club are probably thinking along the lines of the more you complain the more their wee mafia group close ranks and give us even less. Do think there is a hierarchy in decisions along the lines of Rangers Celtic Hearts Aberdeen the rest then Hibs only half joking 🙃

I think that is about right Jim. They can't do us over more now though we don't have much to play for.. but might well roll over to next season 🤔

[ancient hibee]

Probably totally wrong again though did a hertz player not totally clean out a Hibs player going down the left side of the pitch in a game ? . Wish I could remember :confused:

Thought Marc McNulty was very lucky not to get sent off in a game for us too , maybe it wasn't a Derby? .

After reading this on top ten most fouled players in our league . Surprised about two and kinda knew who our one was after some of the tackles he took this season.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/top-10-most-fouled-scottish-premiership-players-this-season-including-hibs-and-hearts-stars-4616003

They’re not really the most fouled players. It’s a list of divers who get fouls.

[Ralphy C]

Many more Shaw goal, tattoo Stevenson retrospective red McGowan retrospective red Templeton retrospective red all in first half of derbies a wee while back to be fair Fenlon manager a couple of them. Huge decisions
Too many one sided decisions to just be incompitance, think Lewis may have got a retrospective once though.

[Victor]

The more I read about this the angrier I get. I am mostly angry about the fact that the on pitch referees and the VAR crew, don’t seem to suffer any consequences for their decisions, or lack thereof. I can’t think of any other profession where someone can make such fundamental mistakes and escape any form of rebuke.

[JimBHibees]

Too many one sided decisions to just be incompitance, think Lewis may have got a retrospective once though.

He did along with Jamie Walker in same incident. Think that was in same incident and very late in the game so no real impact

[JimBHibees]

I think that is about right Jim. They can't do us over more now though we don't have much to play for.. but might well roll over to next season 🤔

Was also very interesting Munro who single handedly has likely had most impact both as ref Aberdeen handball, Ross county injury time throw in plus var Saints pen on Emi had a reasonably competent game last week.

[JimBHibees]

As I said on the other thread. The list is about VAR involvements. So they reviewed incidents and either decided to leave it be or to ask the ref to review.

It doesn’t include any where VAR just didn’t get involved at all. A review team would have to watch every minute of every game to figure that one out. So I does t give close to the full story about VAR errors.

Think they should be watching every min or at least fast forwarding to potential incidents and review. Maybe a good idea also to ask all clubs the incidents they think were dubious and panel then review rather than refs deciding what to look at and what not to. Would likely give clubs more engagement in the process

[JimBHibees]

The more I read about this the angrier I get. I am mostly angry about the fact that the on pitch referees and the VAR crew, don’t seem to suffer any consequences for their decisions, or lack thereof. I can’t think of any other profession where someone can make such fundamental mistakes and escape any form of rebuke.

Couldn’t agree more

[Donegal Hibby]

The more I read about this the angrier I get. I am mostly angry about the fact that the on pitch referees and the VAR crew, don’t seem to suffer any consequences for their decisions, or lack thereof. I can’t think of any other profession where someone can make such fundamental mistakes and escape any form of rebuke.

Totally agree . There's no accountability which there should be imo .

[matty_f]

Think they should be watching every min or at least fast forwarding to potential incidents and review. Maybe a good idea also to ask all clubs the incidents they think were dubious and panel then review rather than refs deciding what to look at and what not to. Would likely give clubs more engagement in the process

They should watch it all, it's not a huge undertaking but it would give a much clearer picture of how effective VAR had been. A selective review doesn't really help anyone.

[kiwihibby]

Ridiculous that teams should lose the chance to get into European competitions with the inept refereeing decisions that are happening. More especially when they have the luxury of VAR to help.There should be some form of compensation. No wonder some supporters are calling for overseas officials. Maybe a pool from England, Ireland (both north and south)and Wales to share games may help. I am aware ref's from these countries make some crazy decision too. But SFA ref's need to up their standards as we all know.

[erin go bragh]

Vente no penalty at Hampden but next day Var give Rangers one for the same offence.

[Greensunshine]

The errors made weren’t just silly mistakes, they were catastrophic mistakes!

The main two were the handball at Pitodrie and the penalty for Hearts at Tynecastle.

A bairn with a biscuit erse could see they were both the worst decisions I’ve seen in football for many a year!

Disgusting!

[ancient hibee]

They should watch it all, it's not a huge undertaking but it would give a much clearer picture of how effective VAR had been. A selective review doesn't really help anyone.
It's a pretty big undertaking-a minimum of 9 hours football every week to be reviewed.

[gbhibby]

https://youtu.be/1zlbrNoRrkU?si=X-b24OS7-vGqSO5Y

We are back to those days again


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[JimBHibees]

They should watch it all, it's not a huge undertaking but it would give a much clearer picture of how effective VAR had been. A selective review doesn't really help anyone.

However is selective so an agenda can be the narrative

[JimBHibees]

https://youtu.be/1zlbrNoRrkU?si=X-b24OS7-vGqSO5Y

We are back to those days again


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Was at that game it was mental think a lot of trouble beforehand. Genuinely the worst refereeing and linesman decisions ever. The handball and the five yard onside decisions 😄

[One Day Soon]

Was at that game it was mental think a lot of trouble beforehand. Genuinely the worst refereeing and linesman decisions ever. The handball and the five yard onside decisions 😄

And of course all the decisions he gave Aberdeen that day. The most angry I’ve ever been at a game. That prick Ferguson was a disgrace.