What do the final four games mean for Hibs?

[matty_f]

With league safety assured beyond doubt after winning on Saturday, we find ourselves in a position where, other than pride and a bit of financial reward, there's not a lot else to play for.

Some people took the open letter from the board to be an ultimatum to Monty - win or go, but the noise from Monty suggests that his job is safer than that line of thinking suggests.

What significance, if any, do you think the last four games hold, and what do you expect and/or hope to see from them?

[Stevie Reid]

Whichever conclusion the review is going to draw we need wins and good performances. If NM is to stay, then it’s obviously essential for him, as he’s a lot of ground to make up with much of the support, myself included.

If he’s to go, we still need morale in both the squad and the support to be as high as it can be following a disappointing campaign, and to be able to look forward with some optimism. We’ve still season tickets to sell too.

Yesterday was a positive start.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m not sure there is any real significance to them to be honest.

A lot of folk have their minds made up. If we lose, it’s because we’re pish and he needs to go. If we win, it doesn’t matter because it’s too little, too late.

To be honest, I don’t think the remainder of the season should really be used as the basis for any decision on his future. They should have in their mind what they want to do, there is no point in pissing about or leaving anyone hanging on. It’s 11 weeks until our first competitive game of next season. We need to go in to that in a good place, not hearing all the usual stuff about it being pre season when it’s not.

I’m still not convinced there will be a managerial change.

[wookie70]

I'm just hoping to see some decent fitba. For the most part it has been fairly similar to Maloneyball with slow boring build up. It means very little as you do well in the league by winning under pressure and we blew that part of the season. It would still be nice to finish with a bit of a flourish and carry some momentum into next season

[K-Zazu]

Absolutely nothing.

[JohnM1875]

Absolutely nothing.

Think the same. I think Monty is staying and we're already planning for next season. So, other than few extra £'s depending on league position, I don't actually think the remaining games mean much to us as a club.

I will add though that after yesterday I'm definitely looking forward to the final two home games much more than I was.

[basehibby]

These last 4 games could restore a bit of pride - even if this season will still have been a failure regardless of the results. There's no pressure now in terms of the R word thank F but hanging on to 7th would at least spare us further embarrassment after missing the split. And Monty's ability - or lack thereof - to get that out of the players could yet have a bearing on his future at Hibs IMO.
A string of wins might put a little credit in the bank but the potential for failure is still there. The win vs St Johnstone was positive if 2 weeks too late - he'll need further wins and hang on to 7th spot to have any argument for keeping his job.

[Wilson]

Nothing.

We needed results like Saturday when the pressure was on to achieve top four. We failed. League position. Cup runs. The things any other hibs manager gets judged on. Failure.

We can win every dead rubber going but it won't tell us anything. The opening games of next season, when the heat is back on, would be a better indicator of where we are.

I don't think I'll be expecting too much with Monty still in charge.

[Johnny_Leith]

Montgomery is auditioning to save his future at the club, so I think they mean a lot. After the Motherwell debacle there was a lot of clamour for change, if he can go into next season with 5x straight convincing wins under his belt it would buy himself bit of credit.

Many of the players are probably auditioning for their future at Hibs, and elsewhere, so I doubt we'll see wholesale changes to the team and maybe a little less of the young players like McIntyre than we'd like.

[Forza Fred]

Victories….hopefully.

Sweet and simple

[CapitalGreen]

Presumably those who say they mean nothing will be silent if we do drop points in any of them? If the games are meaningless then surely it wont matter to them if we don’t win.

[May21/05/216]

Hopefully 4 wins and farewell to two hibs stalwarts

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[Bobby's Cinema]

Not a lot. Already has the end of season feel about it and the fact we are starting with two away games makes me feel even further from it.
Hoping to see us end with two wins at home and a bit of entertainment.

The problem for NM is the threshold for what the fans will accept if we get off to a slow start is going to be very low, we can't be sacking another manager after three games of the league season.

[weecounty hibby]

We need to win them. Can’t believe folk are saying they mean nothing. It’s Hibs playing competitive matches, of course it means something. Im still torn over the manager and I think four more wins would have me leaning slightly to the view that he should be kept to try to build his own team. So in my opinion there is still plenty to play for. And after having spat my dummy out after the Motherwell game and said I’d not be back this season I will most likely be at ER for the last two home games

[easty]

It’s like playing 90% of a video game on normal difficulty and being *****, then changing it to easy and doing well and thinking it makes you good.

Seasons done.

I said before the game yesterday, the manager shouldn’t be saving his job or losing his job based on the bottom 6 games. It should be decided on how he done up to the split, where he failed.

[GreenCastle]

We have only won x2 games in a row once this season.

Beating an awful St J side really doesn’t mean everything is rosey - the Hibs media will try make it sound as positive as possible but in reality we played St J. X4 this season and won 2 and lost 2. Losing twice to the 3rd bottom team help contribute to bottom 6. Losing once to a Levein side was bad enough.

We now need to win away to Ross County who have another ex Hearts connection as manager and haven’t lost at home yet since he took over. Obviously they lost to an awful Livi side at the weekend so that will be hurting them. They are also not safe yet from finishing bottom.

Finding it hard to find any excitement with these games as it’s embarrassing being bottom 6 and seeing Dundee, St Mirren, Killie and Hearts being there.

Another factor is the team will be completely different at the start of the season you would imagine so lot of these players trying to finish on a high as they play their football elsewhere next season - putting themselves in shop window.

Stevenson to hit 600 appearances must happen though !!

[SHODAN]

Nothing.

[flash]

Every Hibs game means a lot to many people for many different reasons.

Following Hibs is far more than looking for a successful team to a lot of our most loyal supporters and every match is important regardless of circumstances.

As someone else said further up I hope those who say these games are meaningless back that up by not caring at all if we lose any of them.

I won't hold my breath.

[Ray_]

Nothing, it's easier to perform when the pressure is off, with the exception of Dylan Vente, he needs a brief to be allowed to play his natural position, to see if we have the player, we thought we had, early in the season.

[we are hibs]

Not a lot. I'm more interested to see how we go about incomings and outgoings this summer after this review and whether there will be a noticeable change in the way we go about recruitment.

Also whoever is manager needs to take the league cup seriously this time and go out and pump these teams comfortably rather than a repeat of the **** show of 2 years ago. It put new signings, new manager and the entire club on the back foot before we even kicked a ball in the league. We need to get a bit positivity into the club and support before our first league game and being in this at least gives a good chance to do that if we win all the games and score a few goals.

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[Fuzzywuzzy]

It should mean players like wollacott getting game time. Marshall likely to go (haven't heard any whispers of an extension). Get that Montgomery is playing for his future though.

[JimBHibees]

Every Hibs game means a lot to many people for many different reasons.

Following Hibs is far more than looking for a successful team to a lot of our most loyal supporters and every match is important regardless of circumstances.

As someone else said further up I hope those who say these games are meaningless back that up by not caring at all if we lose any of them.

I won't hold my breath.

Clearly that wouldn’t happen hence the tendency to indicate Saturdays win was meaningless. Think we have a relatively settled team and don’t see many changes injuries aside though also an opportunity to give game time to players who have earned it who maybe haven’t been as regular as they would like. Are any of the young players currently on loan able to play when their lower league season ends assume not.

[Mainstandman]

Saturday really wasn't that different to any other game, setting the result aside. What I mean by that is we failed to capitalise on our dominance, St J had to come out at home and that helped us with more space but we still looked shaky at the back and unbale to control the midfield. bear in mind this is a team at the bottom of the league. We never got a handle on their number 11 he whole game. instead of controlling the game whilst ahead we just let the other team have the ball and create chances. When we let the ball come in to the box we look out of shape and ill prepared to defend. Until we can be more secure at the back we are in trouble.

Summer signings are not going to be easy, we have a massive raft of absolute bang average players out on loan and in the current first team none of which meet the first team standard. How we get rid of those to create budget, who knows.

I don't look at the way we play and think, you know there is something there, I really don't see much hope for a difference next season, feels like if we stick with Monty he'll be gone in October.

[J-C]

Bottom 6 and safe, these games for me are meaningless, top 6 going for a European slot yes but now it's just a bore waiting for the end of season and another clearout of players to try again.

[flash]

Saturday really wasn't that different to any other game, setting the result aside. What I mean by that is we failed to capitalise on our dominance, St J had to come out at home and that helped us with more space but we still looked shaky at the back and unbale to control the midfield. bear in mind this is a team at the bottom of the league. We never got a handle on their number 11 he whole game. instead of controlling the game whilst ahead we just let the other team have the ball and create chances. When we let the ball come in to the box we look out of shape and ill prepared to defend. Until we can be more secure at the back we are in trouble.

Summer signings are not going to be easy, we have a massive raft of absolute bang average players out on loan and in the current first team none of which meet the first team standard. How we get rid of those to create budget, who knows.

I don't look at the way we play and think, you know there is something there, I really don't see much hope for a difference next season, feels like if we stick with Monty he'll be gone in October.
That's an incredibly negative take on a match we could easily have won by 4 or 5.

[easty]

Every Hibs game means a lot to many people for many different reasons.

Following Hibs is far more than looking for a successful team to a lot of our most loyal supporters and every match is important regardless of circumstances.

As someone else said further up I hope those who say these games are meaningless back that up by not caring at all if we lose any of them.

I won't hold my breath.

I'd want Hibs to win at Tennents sixes, a cross club golf competition or tiddlywinks, and I'd probably be annoyed watching any other team beat us at them.

None of those things would mean anything. Just like the rest of our season.

[flash]

I'd want Hibs to win at Tennents sixes, a cross club golf competition or tiddlywinks, and I'd probably be annoyed watching any other team beat us at them.

None of those things would mean anything. Just like the rest of our season.

Not sure if you are agreeing with me or not?

[easty]

Not sure if you are agreeing with me or not?

I'm not.

I think you can complain about losing in the next few weeks, even if you say the games are meaningless.

[Carheenlea]

I’m already in season ‘24/25’ mode.

Now that the results don’t really have any consequence, it’s hard to get too invested in the last four games.

If we end up winning them all, I’d be just as annoyed as if we lost them all! Wait till now to turn on a show? Great, thanks!

While enjoying the win on Saturday it was a bit hollow in the light of most of what we were served up pre-split. We want to see results like that on Saturday regularly next season, not just for meaningless end of season knockabouts.

[flash]

I'm not.

I think you can complain about losing in the next few weeks, even if you say the games are meaningless.

Got you. I don't think any Hibs games are meaningless.

[Mainstandman]

That's an incredibly negative take on a match we could easily have won by 4 or 5.


I was happy for the win and will always go to the games, what I'm saying is we are still the same team as we have been all season, this game doesn't change that.. We opt to keep Monty on the back of this then we will just get the same next season as this.

[Jim44]

I think that, deep down, the board will be 90% decided on where we’re going with Monty. Four more good wins might just save his bacon. Three defeats could be the final straw and it’ll be curtains. Monty must be aware of this and I don’t think he’ll be trying any different strategies to save his skin. His only option will be to get the best efforts and determination from his tried and tested players.

[flash]

I was happy for the win and will always go to the games, what I'm saying is we are still the same team as we have been all season, this game doesn't change that.. We opt to keep Monty on the back of this then we will just get the same next season as this.

You can't possibly know that.

We will have a much different squad of players.

We have improved since January and can obviously improve again.

[easty]

You can't possibly know that.

We will have a much different squad of players.

We have improved since January and can obviously improve again.

That's a matter of opinion, and I completely disagree.

[Brightside]

They make no difference for Hibs. Decisions on players/staff etc are probably already done. As a fan I'll just go along and enjoy the games. Hopefully some of the boo boys will decide to stay in the pub. :greengrin:flag:

[flash]

That's a matter of opinion, and I completely disagree.

As is obviously your right. Disagreement is healthy. :greengrin

[Dazzjw1875]

It would be great to win all the remaining games, but I'm afraid the season is a dead rubber, and it's more of going through the motions.. The most important thing for me that should be going on is working on solid recruitment finish the BK review and never let this happen again! Been a shambles of a season.. 9 wins until now the whole team, coaches and board members should be embarrassed.

[Donegal Hibby]

Hoping to see some more good performance like the one against St Johnstone in which we could have scored 6 or 7 in , one which we scored a candidate for goal of the season in . It also might be the last time we see two legends play for us plus Maolida and Emiliano too .

Aberdeen are only 4 points behind us and I want us to finish as high as we can always! . Always want hibs to win so there are no meaningless games for me .

Looking forward to the summer then with hopefully Monty as manager bringing in his own players.

GGTTH :flag:

[EdinMike]

Give Stevenson his 600 mark.

[B.H.F.C]

You can't possibly know that.

We will have a much different squad of players.

We have improved since January and can obviously improve again.

I know it’s not that popular an opinion but, whether it’s Montgomery or a new manager, I don’t think it’ll take a huge amount to see us picking up significantly more points next season. We’re not a team that lose week in, week out. Since Montgomery came in, he’s only he’s only lost 4 times in the league to teams outside the Old Firm. It’s obviously easier said than done, but it’s so obvious what needs fixed first going in to next season. If you do that then a lot of those draws (particularly the 2-2 ones) become wins. I don’t think it’s a huge jump to go from where we are to winning more frequently if we fix that obvious, glaring weakness.

Obviously you can offset that with the fact you will likely lose Maolida and Marcondes but I still think we have a reasonable enough starting point in the final third which we would add to.

[Mainstandman]

You can't possibly know that.

We will have a much different squad of players.

We have improved since January and can obviously improve again.


May not agree here, i think we look better but its really the same results. PPG pre window end 1.27 (13pts against top 6) PPG post window 1.33 (4pts against top 6). our 4 wins post window have come against the bottom 3 and a Dundee side that played for a draw. We've not shown anything to suggest we can compete with top six sides on any consistent level, hence we are were we are.

[flash]

May not agree here, i think we look better but its really the same results. PPG pre window end 1.27 (13pts against top 6) PPG post window 1.33 (4pts against top 6). our 4 wins post window have come against the bottom 3 and a Dundee side that played for a draw. We've not shown anything to suggest we can compete with top six sides on any consistent level, hence we are were we are.

To be honest I agree with you that it hasn't translated into results but I have certainly enjoyed watching the team a lot more since we brought the new boys in and got most of our injured players back.

[Basildon Hibs]

That's an incredibly negative take on a match we could easily have won by 4 or 5.

'Could..' but didn't.

😴

[flash]

'Could..' but didn't.

😴

We still won very comfortably so a bit puzzled by your point whatever it might be.

[Basildon Hibs]

Not a lot. Already has the end of season feel about it and the fact we are starting with two away games makes me feel even further from it.
Hoping to see us end with two wins at home and a bit of entertainment.

The problem for NM is the threshold for what the fans will accept if we get off to a slow start is going to be very low, we can't be sacking another manager after three games of the league season.

Yes, yes we can sack him.

[Mainstandman]

To be honest I agree with you that it hasn't translated into results but I have certainly enjoyed watching the team a lot more since we brought the new boys in and got most of our injured players back.


we should get rid of 10 Loan duffers and sign maolida!

[inglisavhibs]

I was happy for the win and will always go to the games, what I'm saying is we are still the same team as we have been all season, this game doesn't change that.. We opt to keep Monty on the back of this then we will just get the same next season as this.
I’ve been following Hibs since the early sixties and don’t remember many more convincing away victories than Saturday, and against a team that needed the points desperately. I think in our history we have won
around 34% of our games in Perth. St Johnstone’s best chance was created by our goalkeeper and nothing to do with our defensive players. Centre backs were excellent as they were at Motherwell.

[DaveF]

It's bottom 6, it's crap but the games do still matter and I will be at the home games and want to see us win. Will be good to wave off Hanlon and Stevenson too if it is the end of the road for them at Hibernian.

[Hibernian Verse]

we should get rid of 10 Loan duffers and sign maolida!

Do you mean the 5 we have on loan or the 8 we have out on loan?

[Onion]

Final 5 games are just irritating. If we win them, it's simply poor disorganised players raising their game when it least matters, likely in an effort to save their jobs at Hibs. Trust is the big issue with this lot of Hibs players. You cannot rely on them to produce a performance when it matters. Lose them and it simply confirms they're not good enough and / or motivated. Either way, there are very few worth keeping for the new season. The best will be going back to their own clubs.

My biggest fear is, as others have said, if Hibs win the final, meaningless games it might confuse the club's owners into thinking we really do have a good squad and manager. Worst case would be giving Monty the summer and first 6-10 games of the new season and then sacking him. We'd be a lot worse off than just getting rid of him now. It's a huge decision.

[McGruber]

Always want Hibs to win in any game we play but just have complete apathy to these remaining dead rubbers. I won't be on here moaning if we lose any of them, that's what being apathetic to it means - don't care enough. It's about the same feel as pre season friendly games, be nice to see them win and not winning is just hey ho.
Really just want to get started with the recruitment process and getting going next season.
We all say the minimum for Hibs is top six so it can't really come as any surprise that most aren't bothered about bottom 6 games. If there was a danger of relegation then I'd be invested but with nothing to play for, it's just meaningless games. Hope Stevenson & Hanlon play a part in last 4.

[Onceinawhile]

Nothing.

Play Johnson or wollacott.
Play j mcintyre and maybe whittaker.
Get Stevenson to 600.

Nothing else really to do.

[McGruber]

Final 5 games are just irritating. If we win them, it's simply poor disorganised players raising their game when it least matters, likely in an effort to save their jobs at Hibs. Trust is the big issue with this lot of Hibs players. You cannot rely on them to produce a performance when it matters. Lose them and it simply confirms they're not good enough and / or motivated. Either way, there are very few worth keeping for the new season. The best will be going back to their own clubs.

My biggest fear is, as others have said, if Hibs win the final, meaningless games it might confuse the club's owners into thinking we really do have a good squad and manager. Worst case would be giving Monty the summer and first 6-10 games of the new season and then sacking him. We'd be a lot worse off than just getting rid of him now. It's a huge decision.

Agree with this. Whether they stick with Monty or not I hope the judgement is based on the pre-split games

[Hibernian Verse]

Agree with this. Whether they stick with Monty or not I hope the judgement is based on the pre-split games

I'd wager that we already know who is staying and who is going. Can't be many that are staying, perhaps these;

Vente
Youan
Levitt
NMW
Amos
Boyle
Obita
Newell
Cadden
Campbell
Rocky
Miller

That's all that are under contract next season (with the exception of Wollacott and Jair who must be away). Massive summer, and could be very exciting going into next season.

[Pretty Boy]

I want Hibs to win every game so from that point of view they have a degree of meaning. Equally though Saturday was, as it stand, my last game of the season as I have other commitments that make Sunday and Wednesday games difficult, if we had something to play for I'd likely be making far more effort than I have to attend at least a couple of the others.

More broadly I don't think the next few games carry much weight in terms of Montgomery's future, they certainly shouldn't. If the club are deciding his fate on 5 bottom 6 games rather than the 30+ other games he has taken charge off then more fool them. I doubt that is the case though, I think a decision has been made regardless of the remaining games.

I suppose what I am saying is that I want Hibs to win the remaining games and preferably play well in doing so but in terms of greater meaning, I don't think there is much.

[JimBHibees]

Saturday really wasn't that different to any other game, setting the result aside. What I mean by that is we failed to capitalise on our dominance, St J had to come out at home and that helped us with more space but we still looked shaky at the back and unbale to control the midfield. bear in mind this is a team at the bottom of the league. We never got a handle on their number 11 he whole game. instead of controlling the game whilst ahead we just let the other team have the ball and create chances. When we let the ball come in to the box we look out of shape and ill prepared to defend. Until we can be more secure at the back we are in trouble.

Summer signings are not going to be easy, we have a massive raft of absolute bang average players out on loan and in the current first team none of which meet the first team standard. How we get rid of those to create budget, who knows.

I don't look at the way we play and think, you know there is something there, I really don't see much hope for a difference next season, feels like if we stick with Monty he'll be gone in October.

Not sure we failed to capitalise our dominance when half their fans were walking up the road with 10 to go. We were three up until a late consolation and was an incredibly comfortable win against a team desperate to avoid relegation and we have struggled against.

[CapitalGreen]

Nothing.

Play Johnson or wollacott.
Play j mcintyre and maybe whittaker.
Get Stevenson to 600.

Nothing else really to do.

If the games mean nothing what will you learn from playing those players? If we can’t learn anything about NM or the current starting XI l, how come we will learn something about the players you mention? If Murray Johnson kept a clean sheet and made numerous saves for example, what should we take from that considering the game is meaningless and there is no pressure? Should meaningless games count towards Stevensons 600?

[easty]

If the games mean nothing what will you learn from playing those players? If we can’t learn anything about NM or the current starting XI l, how come we will learn something about the players you mention? If Murray Johnson kept a clean sheet and made numerous saves for example, what should we take from that considering the game is meaningless and there is no pressure? Should meaningless games count towards Stevensons 600?

I don't think you quite get what people mean when they're saying they're meaningless games.

Players can still play well, the team can still play well, we can still bring in a young keeper and see how he does at this level.

None of that changes that the rest of the season are meaningless games. We can't go down, we can't win a trophy, we can't qualify for Europe. We're seeing out the season with meaningless games against the other **** teams in the league this season.

[CapitalGreen]

I don't think you quite get what people mean when they're saying they're meaningless games.

Players can still play well, the team can still play well, we can still bring in a young keeper and see how he does at this level.

None of that changes that the rest of the season are meaningless games. We can't go down, we can't win a trophy, we can't qualify for Europe. We're seeing out the season with meaningless games against the other **** teams in the league this season.

Ok, so we can still learn things about the players and management from these remaining games? Whether we win/lose/draw and how they perform will contribute towards whether they are suitable to take us forward.

[Donegal Hibby]

I’ve been following Hibs since the early sixties and don’t remember many more convincing away victories than Saturday, and against a team that needed the points desperately. I think in our history we have won
around 34% of our games in Perth. St Johnstone’s best chance was created by our goalkeeper and nothing to do with our defensive players. Centre backs were excellent as they were at Motherwell.

Agree with this . Not too often I remember playing there when we could easily have scored 6 or 7 . Thought it was a very good performance from us on the day with alot of positives to take from it .

[ozwoody]

I think the majority are " meh" bout last 4 games.
We are basically in no man's land now, can't go up, can't be relegated.
Yeh, we might finish best of rest but it's been a season of " what ifs".
We have lost something like 16 points from winning positions this season, that shows poor game management from everyone.
We have played pedestrian, dare I say boring football over majority of games.

We now have another " transition" close season where a lot of players are either off contract or go back to parent clubs.

It will certainly be interesting to see what the root and branch review comes up with

[lyonhibs]

Give Stevenson his 600 mark.

That's about it for me as well.

[Ronniekirk]

Give Stevenson his 600 mark.
When that happens that’s only game I will be going to unless he bloods some young players to see how they do

[Hibernian Verse]

When that happens that’s only game I will be going to unless he bloods some young players to see how they do

You'll not know that until about 2pm :greengrin

[jacomo]

If Monty is staying then surely these final four games should see some good performances?

If he can’t get a tune out of the players when the pressure is off then I can’t see how next season will be hugely different.

[GreenCastle]

When was the last time we won 5 in a row ?

We won 4 in a row November 22 I think.

Reality is we won’t win all the next 4 especially since we struggle to win 2 games in a row.

[Pretty Boy]

When was the last time we won 5 in a row ?

We won 4 in a row November 22 I think.

Reality is we won’t win all the next 4 especially since we struggle to win 2 games in a row.

In the league I think it was August to September 2016. Falkirk, Dunfermilne, St Mirren, Morton and Dumbarton before we failed to win any of our next 4 starting with a defeat to Ayr.

Someone may correct me on that but that's the last time I can see we done it.

In the top flight I think it was February 2011. St Mirren x 2, Kilmarnock, Inverness and Hamilton.

[Paul1642]

They mean plenty to me, just like I cared about the other 12 out of 22 last most recent seasons that have lacked top 6 football (this figure is obviously slightly skewed by 3 seasons in the championship).

5 good result against the bottoms 6 would still be a huge turning point and would be a clear indicator that if we can do it now we can do it again next season when it once again matters.

The season as is a confirmed disappointment but finishing on a high note is still a hell of a lot better than not.

[Wilson]

They mean plenty to me, just like I cared about the other 12 out of 22 last most recent seasons that have lacked top 6 football (this figure is obviously slightly skewed by 3 seasons in the championship).

5 good result against the bottoms 6 would still be a huge turning point and would be a clear indicator that if we can do it now we can do it again next season when it once again matters.

The season as is a confirmed disappointment but finishing on a high note is still a hell of a lot better than not.

The high note is our team of also rans beating the other also rans. Better than not beating them. Correct. Not exactly the highest of high notes, and not a better indicator of how Monty is doing than how he did meeting the targets we had.

The club seem to be sticking by him so good luck to him. I reckon there is as much value in the remaining games as there is in the results of four friendlies. Until his team again gets the chance to perform under real pressure, we'll learn nothing.

[Chorley Hibee]

A fair portion of these players won't be involved next season, there will also be an influx of new players who have nothing to with any results we have in the next month.

That's the main reason that the next few weeks are meaningless results wise.

[Ronniekirk]

You'll not know that until about 2pm :greengrin
lol Helicopter from Paisley it is then

[Keith_M]

As I'll be at all except Ross County, I'd be hoping that the team put in a decent performance and hopefully win most of them.

I'm in the camp of there being no such thing as a meaningless game, even if we're just playing for pride.

[Smartie]

I don’t think there’s such a thing as a meaningless game - as long as there are fellow Hibs fans stumping up their hard earned cash to watch a Hibs team, I’ll be wanting them to enjoy their day and see something they like.

The remaining matches really are of minimal interest to me though. There’s a financial benefit in finishing higher up the league, therefore I’d prefer we finished 7th to 10th. Hanlon and Stevenson are both players I’ve loved over the years and so hopefully they get a few decent run outs. I’d actually quite like them both to play lots and play well to sort of stick it to Monty, who I believe might have benefitted from using both of them at various points when we still had a lot at stake.

There’s next to nothing we can learn about our current players with a view to next season though so I certainly won’t be giving of my time or finance to watch them.

I might be back next season, might not. I reckon the squad is still packed with guff who have zero chance of making a positive impact at first team level and I reckon we’re at least 3 or 4 transfer windows, at least twice the amount of money the Foley lot are putting in and a revamp of the footballing operations before we’re properly challenging for 3rd again. I fear for the state of team we’ll start next season with.

No amount of cuffing St Johnstone and co changes that.

[Donegal Hibby]

I don’t think there’s such a thing as a meaningless game - as long as there are fellow Hibs fans stumping up their hard earned cash to watch a Hibs team, I’ll be wanting them to enjoy their day and see something they like.

The remaining matches really are of minimal interest to me though. There’s a financial benefit in finishing higher up the league, therefore I’d prefer we finished 7th to 10th. Hanlon and Stevenson are both players I’ve loved over the years and so hopefully they get a few decent run outs. I’d actually quite like them both to play lots and play well to sort of stick it to Monty, who I believe might have benefitted from using both of them at various points when we still had a lot at stake.

There’s next to nothing we can learn about our current players with a view to next season though so I certainly won’t be giving of my time or finance to watch them.

I might be back next season, might not. I reckon the squad is still packed with guff who have zero chance of making a positive impact at first team level and I reckon we’re at least 3 or 4 transfer windows, at least twice the amount of money the Foley lot are putting in and a revamp of the footballing operations before we’re properly challenging for 3rd again. I fear for the state of team we’ll start next season with.

No amount of cuffing St Johnstone and co changes that.

Both Hanlon and Stevenson are absolute legends and hopefully they do get a run out , I'd really like to see both start on our last home game if possible . I don't blame Monty if both are leaving at the end of the season for as much as we have all been been dreading it , it was always going to happen sooner or later . Stevenson my favourite player btw 😢.

I agree about the 3 or 4 windows though looking at it optimistically things can change very quickly in football and in our case a good clear out while hopefully retaining some of our better players with us signing good quality players we just might be alright next season .

As to you saying you might or might not be back , I've also said in the past I'd lose interest in Hibs if the Foley deal went ahead though it was never going to happen , Life without Hibs would be very dull indeed.

Come the summer we will all be getting excited about signing players and will be eagerly waiting on the new season to kick off again .

You'll be back ... And you know it 👍


What a life , eh ? 😂 😂 😂

[CentreLine]

Season was in peril when we were struggling to make a European spot. Season was over when we failed to make top six.
Roll on next season, which is when I’ll be back in my seat, full of optimistic hope for the new season.

[Greensunshine]

Let’s get it right.

We failed miserably when it counted.

Week after week of poor results with this squad and manager.

Nothing they do now in games that mean nout will change anything.

Monty has failed and if he stays, the first few games of the season will be like cup finals for him because if we were to lose say the first two games, I think the supporters would be on his back to go.

[flash]

Let’s get it right.

We failed miserably when it counted.

Week after week of poor results with this squad and manager.

Nothing they do now in games that mean nout will change anything.

Monty has failed and if he stays, the first few games of the season will be like cup finals for him because if we were to lose say the first two games, I think the supporters would be on his back to go.

You must have made this post, slightly different wording here and there, about 40 times now.

We get you want him out.

[Donegal Hibby]

Let’s get it right.

We failed miserably when it counted.

Week after week of poor results with this squad and manager.

Nothing they do now in games that mean nout will change anything.

Monty has failed and if he stays, the first few games of the season will be like cup finals for him because if we were to lose say the first two games, I think the supporters would be on his back to go.

Wither the games mean nout to some folk I still think most Hibs fans want to see Hibs win them and we won well on Saturday in a game that could have ended up 6 or 7 .

What happens if he wins his first two games of the season ?. Are some going to wait on the next two games after that to get on his back or the two after that ? . Find some of the takes on here quite bizarre at times.

[blackpoolhibs]

Vienna.

[joe breezy]

War huh - what is it good for - absolutely nothing
Say it again

Bottom 6
What is good for….


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[lugz]

Feels like we need any kind of momentum we can get going into the off-season. A run of wins might help get people back next season, i know a fair few ST holders that aren't renewing who have been going for 20/30+ years, worrying.

[Basildon Hibs]

Wither the games mean nout or not I think most Hibs fans want to see Hibs win them and we won well on Saturday in a game that could have ended up 6 or 7 .

What happens if he wins his first two games of the season ?. Are some going to wait on the next two games after that to get on his back or the two after that ? . Find some of the takes on here quite bizarre at times.

And what if he loses the first two games...🤔😉

[Irish_Steve]

On the last home game of the season, as well as saying goodbye to Paul Hamlon, I’ll also be saying goodbye to my nice comfy seat in the FFU executive area ;)

[IberianHibernian]

We`d all have liked the team to finish higher in the league but in the end despite a disappointing season we were only a few seconds from making top 6 and having a good chance of Europe . .Reading here , you`d think we `ve been relegated and not more or less the same as many seasons in recent years or actually better than quite a few seasons too . One of the first full seasons I remember was 1970 - 71 when we played Liverpool in 3rd round in Europe ( not Intertoto / Conference stuff but real UEFA /Fairs Cup ) but finished 13th in an 18 team league . A few years later we were relegated with a team built by Turnbull . 7th ( aware we could finish 10th ) is not great but anyone thinking we are going to finish in the top 5 every year is in for a big disappointment whatever amount of cash Foley or anyone else throws at us . This is exactly the same for all the other non Old Firm leagues in the Scottish league . Hearts are on a good run with 3rd 4th 3rd but have never looked like a better team than the teams below them in that period ( any neutral who saw the 3 Derbies this season would probably think Hibs were the team which finished 3rd for example ) and despite massive ( in Scottish terms ) investment will probably end up in a relegation fight in the next few years just as they and us have several times in the last 30 years . Hibs and Hearts have enjoyed better crowds ( and sponsorship ) than their play has deserved in recent years as Edinburgh and area is a prosperous , growing area and that will continue in the coming years but that certainly doesn`t mean we can expect Hibs to suddenly start to be guaranteed top 3 or 4 and challenging for cups every year .

[Joe6-2]

More important for NM I think

[Since452]

Nothing. Our win on Saturday barely registered for me and if we lose in Dingwall it will barely register. 5 games which are basically meaningless friendlies. Season ended at Fir Park.

[WeeRussell]

A lot of non-registering going on lately.

[B.H.F.C]

A lot of non-registering going on lately.

I get they don’t mean much because of what has went before, but I’m sure they’ll start re-registering if/when we lose one.

[flash]

Nothing. Our win on Saturday barely registered for me and if we lose in Dingwall it will barely register. 5 games which are basically meaningless friendlies. Season ended at Fir Park.

Every once in a while someone posts something on here that shocks me as I hadn't expected it from them.

Might happen tomorrow.

[GloryGlory]

I get they don’t mean much because of what has went before, but I’m sure they’ll start re-registering if/when we lose one.

Can't wait for the torrent of FFS posts on the match day thread if/when Hibs concede a goal. :wink:

[Hibernian Verse]

Can't wait for the torrent of FFS posts on the match day thread if/when Hibs concede a goal. :wink:

They're really quick at watching the goal going in, getting their phone out their pocket, opening the internet app or tapatalk and posting their rage...

[Baldy Foghorn]

Every Hibs match gives me a buzz. Even friendlies. I look forward to games, it gets me through the week

[Donegal Hibby]

Every Hibs match gives me a buzz. Even friendlies. I look forward to games, it gets me through the week

:agree:. Stating the obvious but also want Hibs to win any game they play in too :scarf:

[Wheat Hound]

Every Hibs match gives me a buzz. Even friendlies. I look forward to games, it gets me through the week

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Same here mate

[Smartie]

Every Hibs match gives me a buzz. Even friendlies. I look forward to games, it gets me through the week

Pre-season friendlies are amongst my favourite Hibs games.

First chance to see new signings, maybe get a glimpse of young players, weather is often better, sometimes going to places that we don’t go through the regular season (like Dunfermline), a break from football for a while has whetted the appetite again (and wiped the slate of prior failure). You can also afford to give players (and managers) a bit of leeway as other things matter more than the result.

[ekhibee]

It’s like playing 90% of a video game on normal difficulty and being *****, then changing it to easy and doing well and thinking it makes you good.

Seasons done.

I said before the game yesterday, the manager shouldn’t be saving his job or losing his job based on the bottom 6 games. It should be decided on how he done up to the split, where he failed.

Yep, totally agree with this.

[WeeRussell]

I get they don’t mean much because of what has went before, but I’m sure they’ll start re-registering if/when we lose one.

Absolutely.

I imagine there’ll be plenty wanting to have their Monty and eat it when one of these non-registering meaningless games isn’t going to plan.

[Wilson]

Absolutely.

I imagine there’ll be plenty wanting to have their Monty and eat it when one of these non-registering meaningless games isn’t going to plan.

We'll still be bottom six if they go to plan or not. Have at him I say.

[Baldy Foghorn]

:agree:. Stating the obvious but also want Hibs to win any game they play in too :scarf: Of course, goes without saying :greengrin


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Same here mate :aok::agree:


Pre-season friendlies are amongst my favourite Hibs games.

First chance to see new signings, maybe get a glimpse of young players, weather is often better, sometimes going to places that we don’t go through the regular season (like Dunfermline), a break from football for a while has whetted the appetite again (and wiped the slate of prior failure). You can also afford to give players (and managers) a bit of leeway as other things matter more than the result. :top marks

[Paulie Walnuts]

Pre-season friendlies are amongst my favourite Hibs games.

First chance to see new signings, maybe get a glimpse of young players, weather is often better, sometimes going to places that we don’t go through the regular season (like Dunfermline), a break from football for a while has whetted the appetite again (and wiped the slate of prior failure). You can also afford to give players (and managers) a bit of leeway as other things matter more than the result.

I’m the opposite. Even when things are going well I can’t stand pre season games. Always mind numbingly boring :greengrin

[matty_f]

Every Hibs match gives me a buzz. Even friendlies. I look forward to games, it gets me through the week

Same here. Look forward to every single game.

[babahibs]

Every Hibs match gives me a buzz. Even friendlies. I look forward to games, it gets me through the week

:top marks
I look forward to EVERY game, always will.

[greenlex]

Nothing. Our win on Saturday barely registered for me and if we lose in Dingwall it will barely register. 5 games which are basically meaningless friendlies. Season ended at Fir Park.
Maybe fitba isn’t for you. Hibs certainly aren’t.

[Since452]

Maybe fitba isn’t for you. Hibs certainly aren’t.

If it wasn't for Hibs then football wouldn't be for me so you're right there. Watching us floundering around the bottom six certainly isn't for me either to be fair. Absolutely no interest in meaningless games. Going by our support at McDairmid park thousands agreed. Fair play to those willing to pay to watch it.

[Itsnoteasy]

Montgomery is auditioning to save his future at the club, so I think they mean a lot. After the Motherwell debacle there was a lot of clamour for change, if he can go into next season with 5x straight convincing wins under his belt it would buy himself bit of credit.

Many of the players are probably auditioning for their future at Hibs, and elsewhere, so I doubt we'll see wholesale changes to the team and maybe a little less of the young players like McIntyre than we'd like.

They've had all season to audition for their future, manager & players. They've failed

[Itsnoteasy]

If it wasn't for Hibs then football wouldn't be for me so you're right there. Watching us floundering around the bottom six certainly isn't for me either to be fair. Absolutely no interest in meaningless games. Going by our support at McDairmid park thousands agreed. Fair play to those willing to pay to watch it.

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