Next season transfer plans

[Donegal Hibby]

Interesting read here , Monty on about signings , squad etc ...
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-hunt-mentality-monsters-failing-squad-rebuild-4612147

[JohnM1875]

Interesting read here , Monty on about signings , squad etc ...
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-hunt-mentality-monsters-failing-squad-rebuild-4612147

Saying all the right things that folk have been moaning about for years. Not signing players that 'might be good enough' but players ready made. Folk have also slaughtered us with the mentality and 'boy band' stuff (our own fans by the way) so good that we're looking for folk with the right mindset. Despise the term 'mentality monsters' though, why has that become so common?

Disagree to an extent with;

"We’re not talking a massive number of players. But we have to get it right – and we have to be patient. That’s one thing in the market, you have to be patient."

I think we need to be talking about at least 10 and for me, that's a massive number. Spot on about needing them to be the right players though.

[bingo70]

Saying all the right things that folk have been moaning about for years. Not signing players that 'might be good enough' but players ready made. Folk have also slaughtered us with the mentality and 'boy band' stuff (our own fans by the way) so good that we're looking for folk with the right mindset. Despise the term 'mentality monsters' though, why has that become so common?

Disagree to an extent with;

"We’re not talking a massive number of players. But we have to get it right – and we have to be patient. That’s one thing in the market, you have to be patient."

I think we need to be talking about at least 10 and for me, that's a massive number. Spot on about needing them to be the right players though.

To be fair, quality over quantity isn’t a new idea, it’s what we hear every season.

[TrinityHFC]

Saying all the right things that folk have been moaning about for years. Not signing players that 'might be good enough' but players ready made. Folk have also slaughtered us with the mentality and 'boy band' stuff (our own fans by the way) so good that we're looking for folk with the right mindset. Despise the term 'mentality monsters' though, why has that become so common?

Disagree to an extent with;

"We’re not talking a massive number of players. But we have to get it right – and we have to be patient. That’s one thing in the market, you have to be patient."

I think we need to be talking about at least 10 and for me, that's a massive number. Spot on about needing them to be the right players though.

Same thing every manager says.

[JohnM1875]

To be fair, quality over quantity isn’t a new idea, it’s what we hear every season.


Same thing every manager says.

Aye true, couldn't really say 'we're so close' the other day then come out today and say we need about 10 players.

[Rick Rude]

It's Scottish football, 2 or 3 quality players turn an average team into a great team. Look at the Hibs team with Latapy and Sauzee as compared to the next season when they were gone. A couple of big players in key positions and the rest of the team will suddenly look a lot better.

[Donegal Hibby]

Saying all the right things that folk have been moaning about for years. Not signing players that 'might be good enough' but players ready made. Folk have also slaughtered us with the mentality and 'boy band' stuff (our own fans by the way) so good that we're looking for folk with the right mindset. Despise the term 'mentality monsters' though, why has that become so common?

Disagree to an extent with;

"We’re not talking a massive number of players. But we have to get it right – and we have to be patient. That’s one thing in the market, you have to be patient."

I think we need to be talking about at least 10 and for me, that's a massive number. Spot on about needing them to be the right players though.

I do think we will go for quality over quantity though how many we will need mate I suppose depends who's moving on , how many of the 18 on loan we can shift . Had around 8 players minimum we'd need myself. Maybe he's just being cagey in saying we don't need a massive amount . Who knows.

The mentality monster term isn't one I'm familiar with .

I was quite happy in what he said and think he knows what needs to be done in the summer wither he gets the time to do it is another question though I feel optimistic about going forward with him as manager after reading the article tbh.

[J-C]

Interesting read here , Monty on about signings , squad etc ...
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-hunt-mentality-monsters-failing-squad-rebuild-4612147

Not really rocket science or anything new here, look at Maolida since he's came in, shaky start but his quality is there to be seen, as is Marcondes when it clicks, shift about 10 out and bring in 5-6 real quality in the correct positions.

[Smartie]

I do think we will go for quality over quantity though how many we will need mate I suppose depends who's moving on , how many of the 18 on loan we can shift . Had around 8 players minimum we'd need myself. Maybe he's just being cagey in saying we don't need a massive amount . Who knows.

The mentality monster term isn't one I'm familiar with .

I was quite happy in what he said and think he knows what needs to be done in the summer wither he gets the time to do it is another question though I feel optimistic about going forward with him as manager after reading the article tbh.

The “being patient” bit always bothers me.

Competitive games start in July - one of only 2 realistically winnable competitions for us.

We’ve got a huge rebuild on our hands this year and by the middle of August last year Lee Johnson had already managed to turn our support against him, in spite of a good European result along the way.

You don’t have to be Nostradamus to spot something similar happening if we’re too patient.

I’m actually not all that impatient by nature either - just that I think that there’s a time to be patient and a time to show a bit of urgency. We missed out on the top 6 this season by a point. That missing point might just as easily have been dropped in early August as February, when we had all our signings done.

You can “be patient” when you’re starting with a strong squad, one you expect to be capable of meeting expectations, when the transfer windows are more about not losing your best players than having to reconstruct your key central defensive unit and more.

[eastmainsmsh]

Jordan ibe available left ebbsfleet wonder If we could be a good fit 🤔

[Donegal Hibby]

The “being patient” bit always bothers me.

Competitive games start in July - one of only 2 realistically winnable competitions for us.

We’ve got a huge rebuild on our hands this year and by the middle of August last year Lee Johnson had already managed to turn our support against him, in spite of a good European result along the way.

You don’t have to be Nostradamus to spot something similar happening if we’re too patient.

I’m actually not all that impatient by nature either - just that I think that there’s a time to be patient and a time to show a bit of urgency. We missed out on the top 6 this season by a point. That missing point might just as easily have been dropped in early August as February, when we had all our signings done.

You can “be patient” when you’re starting with a strong squad, one you expect to be capable of meeting expectations, when the transfer windows are more about not losing your best players than having to reconstruct your key central defensive unit and more.

I get what your saying though with our signing policy over the last few years I kind of like the idea of being patient and taking our time in getting it right . I'm sure we will get some in early while others we might have to be patient on . Quite relaxed about the " being patient " bit TBH . If we start signing a raft of young players quickly from Portugal , Africa and Norway I will start to panic though 😳

[04Sauzee]

Jordan ibe available left ebbsfleet wonder If we could be a good fit 🤔

What actually happend to this guy, only 28 and he was quick with some very decent skills.

[Alex Trager]

The “being patient” bit always bothers me.

Competitive games start in July - one of only 2 realistically winnable competitions for us.

We’ve got a huge rebuild on our hands this year and by the middle of August last year Lee Johnson had already managed to turn our support against him, in spite of a good European result along the way.

You don’t have to be Nostradamus to spot something similar happening if we’re too patient.

I’m actually not all that impatient by nature either - just that I think that there’s a time to be patient and a time to show a bit of urgency. We missed out on the top 6 this season by a point. That missing point might just as easily have been dropped in early August as February, when we had all our signings done.

You can “be patient” when you’re starting with a strong squad, one you expect to be capable of meeting expectations, when the transfer windows are more about not losing your best players than having to reconstruct your key central defensive unit and more.

Agree entirely.

Go and get the business done as soon as possible.

We want to be a club at least in the top five.

Go and act like it. I frankly don’t care if they cost more at the start. They cost more because they’re quality.

Sail through the groups and start the league well. Then you can bring in a few extras.

We hear the same every season though. I won’t hold my breath.

Sign a spine. Start there. Two quality centre halves. A qaulity keeper. A quality midfielder or two. A quality striker.

6 players that are starters.
Shift the *****.

Sprinkle magic at the end.

Win the treble.

[eastmainsmsh]

What actually happend to this guy, only 28 and he was quick with some very decent skills.

Think he had trouble with fame cracking player as well

[Paulie Walnuts]

Saying all the right things that folk have been moaning about for years. Not signing players that 'might be good enough' but players ready made. Folk have also slaughtered us with the mentality and 'boy band' stuff (our own fans by the way) so good that we're looking for folk with the right mindset. Despise the term 'mentality monsters' though, why has that become so common?

Disagree to an extent with;

"We’re not talking a massive number of players. But we have to get it right – and we have to be patient. That’s one thing in the market, you have to be patient."

I think we need to be talking about at least 10 and for me, that's a massive number. Spot on about needing them to be the right players though.

I’m not convinced we’re talking a massive number of players either.

We have a squad that is probably in the top 5 in the league. If we went out and signed a couple of good centre half’s, a good centre mid, a keeper and a right back we could have a very decent side.

The squad this season has been woefully mismanaged. Theres no way we’re getting 10 new players, and imo 10 isn’t the sort of number that’s anywhere near required. 5 starters or so and we’d have a very decent squad. It’s then down to hopefully a new manager to deliver.

[JohnM1875]

I’m not convinced we’re talking a massive number of players either.

We have a squad that is probably in the top 5 in the league. If we went out and signed a couple of good centre half’s, a good centre mid, a keeper and a right back we could have a very decent side.

The squad this season has been woefully mismanaged. Theres no way we’re getting 10 new players, and imo 10 isn’t the sort of number that’s anywhere near required. 5 starters or so and we’d have a very decent squad. It’s then down to hopefully a new manager to deliver.

That's five starters though, almost half a team. Then you'd need more to add strength in depth, if not where is the depth coming from? Jair, JDH, Campbell, Levitt? Even with 2 new CB's we're only left with Rocky as an alternative.

I genuinely think we need at least 10 players to come in and make the squad stronger and competitive. For me, I'd class that as a massive number of players.

I don't want a decent squad or one that's in the top five (not saying you'd be happy with that either, by the way), I want us to use this money properly and cement ourselves as best of the rest.

[Paulie Walnuts]

That's five starters though, almost half a team. Then you'd need more to add strength in depth, if not where is the depth coming from? Jair, JDH, Campbell, Levitt? Even with 2 new CB's we're only left with Rocky as an alternative.

I genuinely think we need at least 10 players to come in and make the squad stronger and competitive. For me, I'd class that as a massive number of players.

I don't want a decent squad or one that's in the top five (not saying you'd be happy with that either, by the way), I want us to use this money properly and cement ourselves as best of the rest.

It is five starters, but I think that’s what’s needed. Not 10 players to fill the squad out. The depth should come from the players that are currently starting.

Obviously we’d all like a squad brimming with talent, but it’s not really realistic. I saw posts recently referencing the fact we’ve got a good squad of about 14, potentially a 14 that could challenge for 3rd, but then after that the players aren’t as good anymore and are players that are probably bottom 6. That’s the case for every squad in the world. Once Celtic get out of their top 14 players or so, the standard drops and that’s the same all the way up to Real Madrid, with Man City being arguably an exception to an extent. No team in the world has a squad of 20 players who could all start every week in a team expecting to meet the target they set.

If people are expecting a first 11 of serious talent and a bench absolutely stacked with talent as well then they’re going to be disappointed. Let’s keep in mind that Hearts have absolute guff like Atkinson, Devlin, Denholm, Vargas, Sibbick, Oda etc regularly getting game time for them and they walked 3rd.

I think our current squad should have been top 5 and I think it should have been there comfortably. I don’t think it’s much worse than Hearts other than the fact they have Shankland. If we went out and signed 5 starting players better than what we currently have, then we’d likely have a team capable of third imo.

[The Modfather]

I’m not convinced we’re talking a massive number of players either.

We have a squad that is probably in the top 5 in the league. If we went out and signed a couple of good centre half’s, a good centre mid, a keeper and a right back we could have a very decent side.

The squad this season has been woefully mismanaged. Theres no way we’re getting 10 new players, and imo 10 isn’t the sort of number that’s anywhere near required. 5 starters or so and we’d have a very decent squad. It’s then down to hopefully a new manager to deliver.

How do you manage differently a spine of the team from Marshall, Hanlon/Rocky/Fish/Harbottle, Newell/Jeggo/Levitt/Campbell/JDH/Delfierre ?

[JohnM1875]

The depth comes from the players that are currently starting.

Obviously we’d all like a squad brimming with talent, but it’s not really realistic. I saw posts recently referencing the fact we’ve got a good squad of about 14, potentially a 14 that could challenge for 3rd, but then after that the players aren’t as good anymore and are players that are probably bottom 6. That’s the case for every squad in the world. Once Celtic get out of their top 14 players or so, the standard drops and that’s the same all the way up to Real Madrid, with Man City being arguably an exception to an extent. No team in the world has

If people are expecting a first 11 of serious talent and a bench absolutely stacked with talent as well then they’re going to be disappointed.

I think our current squad should have been top 5 and I think it should have been there comfortably. I don’t think it’s much worse than Hearts other than the fact they have Shankland. If we went out and signed 5 starting players better than what we currently have, then we’d likely have a team capable of third imo.

That's kinda my point though, who?

You mentioned needing a couple CB's, one CM a keeper and a RB (personally think we need LB depth more). So where is the depth coming from there from the starters? Just Rocky on the bench at CB and in CM Levitt, JDH and Campbell? I'd be hoping at least two from the three are moved on.

RB I actually think Cadden is more than good enough.

[Paulie Walnuts]

How do you manage differently a spine of the team from Marshall, Hanlon/Rocky/Fish/Harbottle, Newell/Jeggo/Levitt/Campbell/JDH/Delfierre ?

You don’t play them in a 4-4-2 for half the season for starters and you don’t have them playing the slowest tempo of football known to man.

[Paulie Walnuts]

That's kinda my point though, who?

You mentioned needing a couple CB's, one CM a keeper and a RB (personally think we need LB depth more). So where is the depth coming from there from the starters? Just Rocky on the bench at CB and in CM Levitt, JDH and Campbell? I'd be hoping at least two from the three are moved on.

RB I actually think Cadden is more than good enough.

Longer term you’d obviously be looking to add more depth. I think there’s more than enough in the squad numbers wise and quality wise if you get 5 starting 11 players in. Like I said, this squad is a top 5 squad easily imo, so if you chuck 5 players in there who are improvements on what we currently have starting then you’re on to something pretty decent.

I’d much rather see us focusing as much of our funds on 5 players who are real improvements than stretching it across 10 players, some of whom are being signed to provide depth in the squad.

I’m not really a fan of Cadden tbh. Fine for a squad player, wouldn’t want to see him starting next year.

[The Modfather]

You don’t play them in a 4-4-2 for half the season for starters and you don’t have them playing the slowest tempo of football known to man.

We’ve been playing 433, and 3 in the middle, since January and nothing much changed.

What is it we could have done differently with that spine? Stick Jeggo in beside Newell & Levitt is about the best of a very limited set of options I can see. A midfield of Jeggo, Newell & Levitt is still closer to a bottom 6 midfield collectively IMO

[Paulie Walnuts]

We’ve been playing 433, and 3 in the middle, since January and nothing much changed.

What is it we could have done differently with that spine? Stick Jeggo in beside Newell & Levitt is about the best of a very limited set of options I can see. A midfield of Jeggo, Newell & Levitt is still closer to a bottom 6 midfield collectively IMO

Because we’re still playing the same absolute guff snails pace football.

Jeggo, Newell & Levitt isn’t a bottom 6 midfield imo.

[JohnM1875]

Because we’re still playing the same absolute guff snails pace football.

Jeggo, Newell & Levitt isn’t a bottom 6 midfield imo.

Jeggo was slaughtered on here constantly, Levitt played 24 games for Dundee Utd in their relegation season. Newell I'll give you is a good player.

[The Modfather]

Because we’re still playing the same absolute guff snails pace football.

Jeggo, Newell & Levitt isn’t a bottom 6 midfield imo.

Fair enough, agree to disagree. I think individually those midfielders could have a case argued for them, collectively though they excel at nothing.

[B.H.F.C]

We’ve been playing 433, and 3 in the middle, since January and nothing much changed.

What is it we could have done differently with that spine? Stick Jeggo in beside Newell & Levitt is about the best of a very limited set of options I can see. A midfield of Jeggo, Newell & Levitt is still closer to a bottom 6 midfield collectively IMO

Correct. Have been saying all season that the quality in key areas is just so lacking, irrespective of how you stick them together or what shape you play. We have some decent attacking players, and some players dotted about who are capable on their day. But that’s about the extent of it for me.

We need a goalie and two competent, first pick centre halves. You get that right and it’s a massive step forward. Obviously it’s easier said than done but, until we do it, we don’t move forward.

If you look at the last time we finished third, we were strong right up the middle of the team. A good keeper in Marciano, a consistent centre half pairing of Porteous and a younger Hanlon, consistency in the middle of the park with Gogic and Newell then Nisbet and Doidge up top. Some of them weren’t fashionable (Doidge and Gogic) but they helped the team function. We need to get back to basics this summer.

[B.H.F.C]

Because we’re still playing the same absolute guff snails pace football.

Jeggo, Newell & Levitt isn’t a bottom 6 midfield imo.

The snails pace football isn’t the biggest issue we have. Nobody outside the OF has scored more. It’s what we do, or don’t do when the other team have the ball that routinely kills us.

[HoboHarry]

The snails pace football isn’t the biggest issue we have. Nobody outside the OF has scored more. It’s what we do, or don’t do when the other team have the ball that routinely kills us.

This all day long 👍👍

[RIP]

Players like Marshall, Cadds, Jordan, Rocky, Newell, M-W, Youan and Boyle are on a par or better compared to their opposite numbers from Hearts, Killie and St Mirren.

If they were managed by Naismith, McInnes or Robinson their performances would be more consistent.

We need 3 home grown players and a couple of internationals.

And a much better Head Coach.

[JohnM1875]

Players like Marshall, Cadds, Jordan, Rocky, Newell, M-W, Youan and Boyle are on a par or better compared to their opposite numbers from Hearts, Killie and St Mirren.

If they were managed by Naismith, McInnes or Robinson their performances would be more consistent.

We need 3 home grown players and a couple of internationals.

And a much better Head Coach.

Correct other than Marshall. Honestly think he's a huge reason we find ourselves bottom six. One of the worst keepers in the league for me.

[Greenio]

Correct other than Marshall. Honestly think he's a huge reason we find ourselves bottom six. One of the worst keepers in the league for me.

Hmm. Disagree. Marsh has made a few errors, as has every keeper, he's also made some very good saves.

Worst keeper in the league? Nah

I don't believe us leaking goals can be laid at his door. Do we need better? Probably aye? Same as all positions.

[Forza Fred]

Players like Marshall, Cadds, Jordan, Rocky, Newell, M-W, Youan and Boyle are on a par or better compared to their opposite numbers from Hearts, Killie and St Mirren.

If they were managed by Naismith, McInnes or Robinson their performances would be more consistent.

We need 3 home grown players and a couple of internationals.

And a much better Head Coach.

Why must they be ‘home grown’?

Does it matter where they come from?

Arguably our best performers at the moment are NOT ‘home grown’.

Surely we just need to sign better players, I’m not real bothered if they come from England, France, Germany..anywhere.

Don’t think we should be recruiting based on passport eligibility.

[MWHIBBIES]

Players like Marshall, Cadds, Jordan, Rocky, Newell, M-W, Youan and Boyle are on a par or better compared to their opposite numbers from Hearts, Killie and St Mirren.

If they were managed by Naismith, McInnes or Robinson their performances would be more consistent.

We need 3 home grown players and a couple of internationals.

And a much better Head Coach.

I love this. Does their ability or nationality matter?

[LEaston87]

Hmm. Disagree. Marsh has made a few errors, as has every keeper, he's also made some very good saves.

Worst keeper in the league? Nah

I don't believe us leaking goals can be laid at his door. Do we need better? Probably aye? Same as all positions.

I’m struggling to think of any of his very good saves, any saves hes been given credit for look like saves i’d expect my keeper to make to be honest. He’s one of the weak links in the team

[Unseen work]

I’m struggling to think of any of his very good saves, any saves hes been given credit for look like saves i’d expect my keeper to make to be honest. He’s one of the weak links in the team

The one on one on Saturday against St Johnstone after Marcondes mistake?

Marshall makes a lot of good saves that he doesn’t get credit for imo.

Still think we need to improve in the summer, but he has made some brilliant saves this season (as well as some mistakes)

[LEaston87]

I think it was more a case of a poor finish from Sidibe, Marshall was already on the ground before sidibe shot. Just my opinion

[Unseen work]

I think it was more a case of a poor finish from Sidibe, Marshall was already on the ground before sidibe shot. Just my opinion

I think that’s just the way fans are.

We fail to see positives of our players and only see the negatives, whilst doing the opposite for opposition players.

For example Mitov - a very good goalie who has had some brilliant saves against us. Some he should save and some more impressive, however none have really went down to it being a poor finish. Had he made the save Marshall did I imagine mitov would get a lot of praise too.

[GreenPJ]

I really don't understand the level of criticism Marshall comes in for - he has been sound since Johnson left. The defensive unit (full backs, centre halves and goalkeeper) has ultimately not been optimal all season and whilst that is recognised Marshall seems to bear the brunt of that even although imho he has mostly been left exposed by the defense/midfield in front of him.

There will be a new keeper come in and new CH's and possibly fullback(s). The new keeper will hopefully benefit from those additions and lead to a tighter defense.

[Donegal Hibby]

Defensively one of the areas I think as been causing of us a few problems is the fullback's area . Big fan of both Obita and Cadden though quite a few times we have been caught exposed when they are attacking and we lose it .

Seen in many games this year the CHs trying to cover that area . Probably also why teams were getting so many crosses in our box too .

I suppose that's the price you pay for having two attacking fullbacks though would like to see them both do the defensive side of the game better .

[RIP]

I love this. Does their ability or nationality matter?

Colour of skin, absolutely not.

But our best teams e.g. Famous Five, Tornadoes, Golden Generation and 2016 were built around players and coaches with solid careers in the SPL.

Augment the squad with a Sauzee, Latapy or Myziane to bring an extra ingredient. But learn from our rivals and build the spine of the team around players suited to the league and will stick around.

[CapitalGreen]

Colour of skin, absolutely not.

But our best teams e.g. Famous Five, Tornadoes, Golden Generation and 2016 were built around players and coaches with solid careers in the SPL.

Augment the squad with a Sauzee, Latapy or Myziane to bring an extra ingredient. But learn from our rivals and build the spine of the team around players suited to the league.

Those teams were good because the players were good, not because the players were Scottish. McGinn would still have been a great player for us had he grown up in Colombia rather than Clydebank.

You must have been delighted in the summer of 2013 when we made 8 permanent signings, all British or Irish, 7 of whom had experience in Scotland. We ended up relegated that season because it turned out experience of Scottish football means **** all of the players are gash.

[Smartie]

Colour of skin, absolutely not.

But our best teams e.g. Famous Five, Tornadoes, Golden Generation and 2016 were built around players and coaches with solid careers in the SPL.

Augment the squad with a Sauzee, Latapy or Myziane to bring an extra ingredient. But learn from our rivals and build the spine of the team around players suited to the league.

Maolida is the player who sort of blows the “proven SPFL quality” myth apart, as did loan spell Kamberi.

He arrived and due to being hungry and a very good player has managed to excel in a pretty ropey team. He’s not needed an extensive background in knowing all about St Johnstone, Dundee and Livingston to play well and score goals against them.

Every signing is a risk, some riskier than others. The Gordon era has been characterised by our arrivals being more exotic, more risky and more unsuccessful.

We need a bit of everything. With our signings at CB, I think I’d favour experience over nationality or where they’ve played before - I’d prefer players with a few hundred games behind them irrespective of where they’re from over getting players farmed out from Bournemouth to make their mistakes and learn the game with us. I mind that less in other positions.

[Hibernian Verse]

Colour of skin, absolutely not.

But our best teams e.g. Famous Five, Tornadoes, Golden Generation and 2016 were built around players and coaches with solid careers in the SPL.

Augment the squad with a Sauzee, Latapy or Myziane to bring an extra ingredient. But learn from our rivals and build the spine of the team around players suited to the league and will stick around.

I can't find my own post that disproves it but the "learn from our rivals" bit alluding to players "suited to the league" is a myth if you're getting at where they come from.

[Hibernian Verse]

A simple check of Transfermarkt and here's the "foreigners" % at each club in the Top 6.

Celtic - 75% non-Scots (1st)
Rangers - 73.3% non-Scots (2nd)
Hearts - 57% non-Scots (3rd)
Kilmarnock - 48% non-Scots (4th)
St Mirren - 75% non-Scots (5th)
Dundee - 61.5% non-Scots (6th)

Hibernian - 79.2% non-Scots

The Xenophobic patter is as inaccurate as it is unwelcome. Yes we have the highest number of non-Scots (proportionally) but we are not far away from Celtic, Rangers & St Mirren.

What Celtic & Rangers show, which is pretty obvious anyway, is that it doesn't matter where the player comes from or if they "know the league" as long as they are better than the other players in the league.

I might be wrong but I doubt Kyogo and Maeda watched the SPFL on their firesticks back in Japan.

[babahibs]

We need good players, it doesn't matter one iota where they come from

[GloryGlory]

Could we get another sell on for Josh Doig? Seemingly he's wanted by Lazio so I guess if he goes for big bucks over what Sassuolo paid for him we could be due a cut.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/josh-doig-a-transfer-priority-for-serie-a-heavyweights-as-lazio-come-calling-for-sassuolo-s-blameless-star/ar-AA1o1BBk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=be1f59b5cf0d40158391da751117e68b&ei=29

[JohnM1875]

Always love a summer transfer window but seriously buzzing for this one.

Hoping one of the CB’s we sign is Jason Kerr. Sure I read Siegrest has been told he can leave Celtic, could be worth a punt. Don't remember him being good with the ball at his feet though, which seems to be a big factor now.

[JimBHibees]

I really don't understand the level of criticism Marshall comes in for - he has been sound since Johnson left. The defensive unit (full backs, centre halves and goalkeeper) has ultimately not been optimal all season and whilst that is recognised Marshall seems to bear the brunt of that even although imho he has mostly been left exposed by the defense/midfield in front of him.

There will be a new keeper come in and new CH's and possibly fullback(s). The new keeper will hopefully benefit from those additions and lead to a tighter defense.

Personally would keep Marshall but bring in a first team ready goalie

[easty]

Personally would keep Marshall but bring in a first team ready goalie

I dinnae know, but I'd assume Marshall is one of the higher paid keepers in the league, outwith Rangers and Celtc. I'd keep him as a sub keeper, but not if he'd remain one of the higher paid keepers in the league.

[bingo70]

Personally would keep Marshall but bring in a first team ready goalie

Sorry to bring this back to the manager but if Monty leaves, the goalie coach will leave with him.

I know good players doesn’t mean a good coach but I think for such a specialist position, having Marshall as a goalie coach and possibly 2nd or 3rd choice it could be a solution.

I think we need a new number 1 regardless.

[Hibiza]

Fair enough, agree to disagree. I think individually those midfielders could have a case argued for them, collectively though they excel at nothing.

Excellent phrase " excel at nothing ".

[GreenPJ]

Personally would keep Marshall but bring in a first team ready goalie

I would agree with that

[tamh]

But he's finished, why are clubs above us in the league with managers our fans want trying to sign Paul?:thumbsup::thumbsup:Very strange !!!!!! :agree:

[Paulie Walnuts]

Could we get another sell on for Josh Doig? Seemingly he's wanted by Lazio so I guess if he goes for big bucks over what Sassuolo paid for him we could be due a cut.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/josh-doig-a-transfer-priority-for-serie-a-heavyweights-as-lazio-come-calling-for-sassuolo-s-blameless-star/ar-AA1o1BBk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=be1f59b5cf0d40158391da751117e68b&ei=29

What a move that would be for him from both a football but also a lifestyle POV.

[Squealing pig]

Sign proven spl players not gambles from abroad or down south reserves

[Dmas]

I’m struggling to think of any of his very good saves, any saves hes been given credit for look like saves i’d expect my keeper to make to be honest. He’s one of the weak links in the team

I agree and a reluctance to come for cross balls adds more pressure to a defence already struggling with it, I think he’s actually improved under NM but we need a better goalkeeper for me

[04Sauzee]

Sign proven spl players not gambles from abroad or down south reserves

Which proven SPL players? They need to be in positions we require, within budget and want to move to Hibs from their current clubs.

There may be a few out there but not sure there are enough.

[eastmainsmsh]

A simple check of Transfermarkt and here's the "foreigners" % at each club in the Top 6.

Celtic - 75% non-Scots (1st)
Rangers - 73.3% non-Scots (2nd)
Hearts - 57% non-Scots (3rd)
Kilmarnock - 48% non-Scots (4th)
St Mirren - 75% non-Scots (5th)
Dundee - 61.5% non-Scots (6th)

Hibernian - 79.2% non-Scots

The Xenophobic patter is as inaccurate as it is unwelcome. Yes we have the highest number of non-Scots (proportionally) but we are not far away from Celtic, Rangers & St Mirren.

What Celtic & Rangers show, which is pretty obvious anyway, is that it doesn't matter where the player comes from or if they "know the league" as long as they are better than the other players in the league.

I might be wrong but I doubt Kyogo and Maeda watched the SPFL on their firesticks back in Japan.

If it wasn't for ange they wouldn't have moved here

[Hamish]

Shaun Rooney released by Fleetwood.

[HendoDelivered]

Shaun Rooney released by Fleetwood.

Hope he’s nowhere near us - serious huddy.

[Iain G]

Hope he’s nowhere near us - serious huddy.

Experience premier league huddy! Just what we need apparently.

[Hamish]

Hope he’s nowhere near us - serious huddy.

Agree, definitely a bottom 6 signing.

[04Sauzee]

Shaun Rooney released by Fleetwood.

Not surprised, Mallan has also left his club.

[RIP]

Those teams were good because the players were good, not because the players were Scottish. McGinn would still have been a great player for us had he grown up in Colombia rather than Clydebank.

You must have been delighted in the summer of 2013 when we made 8 permanent signings, all British or Irish, 7 of whom had experience in Scotland. We ended up relegated that season because it turned out experience of Scottish football means **** all of the players for us had he grown up in Colombia rather than Clydebank.

Either you've deliberately missed the point or I've failed to point out the lessons of history at this club during my lifetime. Maybe its better to explain by example.

Kanayo Megwa is an up and coming player at the club. Born in London and attended an English football academy, our recruitment team brought him here two months after his 17th birthday.

He starred for our youth team (I went to watch them that season), went on loan to Kelty and other than premature involvement in the first team due to injuries to others went on loan to Airdrie who are now in the Championship play offs.

Having watched an excellent televised performance last week where Kanayo played a blinder, I'm hoping he will be on Monty's radar for the future.

Give me a home-grown Porto, Doig or Megwa any time before a random from an EU, Asian, African or Aussie league with no allegiance to our club.

[RIP]

A simple check of Transfermarkt and here's the "foreigners" % at each club in the Top 6.

Celtic - 75% non-Scots (1st)
Rangers - 73.3% non-Scots (2nd)
Hearts - 57% non-Scots (3rd)
Kilmarnock - 48% non-Scots (4th)
St Mirren - 75% non-Scots (5th)
Dundee - 61.5% non-Scots (6th)

Hibernian - 79.2% non-Scots

The Xenophobic patter is as inaccurate as it is unwelcome. Yes we have the highest number of non-Scots (proportionally) but we are not far away from Celtic, Rangers & St Mirren.

What Celtic & Rangers show, which is pretty obvious anyway, is that it doesn't matter where the player comes from or if they "know the league" as long as they are better than the other players in the league.

I might be wrong but I doubt Kyogo and Maeda watched the SPFL on their firesticks back in Japan.

Since when is anyone interested in who's a Scot? As a lifelong anti-racist campaigner, Im proud that in this country, those who live here are all considered Scots.

Our 2016 side contained a mix of nationalities who suited our playing style. Their ethnicity is completely irrelevant as long as they fit together into a consistent unit over several seasons.

A settled team, built along the lines constructed by George Craig, Graeme Mathie and Stubbs and taken forward by Lennon should be our goal. A healthy sprinkling of home-grown players like Gray, Stevenson, Hanlon, McGregor would drive the culture.

[BoomtownHibees]

Since when is anyone interested in who's a Scot?

Can see why folk find it a bit confusing when you post this however your previous post said:

“Give me a home-grown Porto, Doig or Megwa any time before a random from an EU, Asian, African or Aussie league with no allegiance to our club”

[CapitalGreen]

Since when is anyone interested in who's a Scot? As a lifelong anti-racist campaigner, Im proud that in this country, those who live here are all considered Scots.

Our 2016 side contained a mix of nationalities who suited our playing style. Their ethnicity is completely irrelevant as long as they fit together into a consistent unit over several seasons.

A settled team, built along the lines constructed by George Craig, Graeme Mathie and Stubbs and taken forward by Lennon should be our goal. A healthy sprinkling of home-grown players like Gray, Stevenson, Hanlon, McGregor would drive the culture.

All four of those players are still with the club in a playing or coaching capacity. If you believe there is currently a problem with the “culture” at the club, they are a part of it.

[Squealing pig]

Which proven SPL players? They need to be in positions we require, within budget and want to move to Hibs from their current clubs.

There may be a few out there but not sure there are enough.

Armstrong killie , vassell killie are 2 that spring to mind , obviously need defenders more though , hearts sign proven players halkett , danda , spitall, forest etc etc works for them

[CapitalGreen]

Armstrong killie , vassell killie are 2 that spring to mind , obviously need defenders more though , hearts sign proven players halkett , danda , spitall, forest etc etc works for them

Dhanda and Spittal are yet to kick a ball for them and Hearts fans hate Forrest.

[TrinityHibby]

Players like Marshall, Cadds, Jordan, Rocky, Newell, M-W, Youan and Boyle are on a par or better compared to their opposite numbers from Hearts, Killie and St Mirren.

If they were managed by Naismith, McInnes or Robinson their performances would be more consistent.

We need 3 home grown players and a couple of internationals.

And a much better Head Coach.

Not having a credible head coach is why Hibs have struggled so badly this season

[TrinityHibby]

You don’t play them in a 4-4-2 for half the season for starters and you don’t have them playing the slowest tempo of football known to man.

A Nick Montgomery team has the pace of his namesake Colin Montgomery 🐌….come to think of it I’d rather Colin was picking the team

[Libby Hibby]

Let’s be honest, if you were Armstrong why would you consider a move to Hibs right now? We are a mess

Ka-ching

[flash]

Not having a credible head coach is why Hibs have struggled so badly this season

"Credible".

[tamig]

Not having a credible head coach is why Hibs have struggled so badly this season

Jeez man. 🙄

[JimBHibees]

A Nick Montgomery team has the pace of his namesake Colin Montgomery 🐌….come to think of it I’d rather Colin was picking the team

Pretty good at the weekend

[FifeHibs]

Pretty good at the weekend


st Johnstone have won 5 games since the start of December( unfortunately 2 against us), the game on Saturday should be no marker for us if we are to be challenging for 3rd.

[Unseen work]

Armstrong killie , vassell killie are 2 that spring to mind , obviously need defenders more though , hearts sign proven players halkett , danda , spitall, forest etc etc works for them

I think that’s the issue with Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen.

We’re in this position where people expect better than players that perform well in the division.

Look at Gogic - we signed him and people loved him for a while and then highlighted his weaknesses. We sell him and he does well. The same would happen for a Vassell etc. Even Drey Wright left us and scored 7 league goals for St Johnston the next season!

It’s the same when we mention guys like Dhanda, Spital, Penrice, Dan Phillips etc, everyone thinks we can do better. We rarely manage to do better though.

[Brightside]

Which proven SPL players? They need to be in positions we require, within budget and want to move to Hibs from their current clubs.

There may be a few out there but not sure there are enough.

Luke Mccowan He’s a must buy.

[easty]

I think that’s the issue with Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen.

We’re in this position where people expect better than players that perform well in the division.

Look at Gogic - we signed him and people loved him for a while and then highlighted his weaknesses. We sell him and he does well. The same would happen for a Vassell etc. Even Drey Wright left us and scored 7 league goals for St Johnston the next season!

It’s the same when we mention guys like Dhanda, Spital, Penrice, Dan Phillips etc, everyone thinks we can do better. We rarely manage to do better though.

Gogic was a good fit when he joined. Performed the sitting midfielder role well. Never particularly good on the ball, and it seemed like he lost possession through poor passing a lot, but did a really good job protecting the defence. However, he was really pretty poor in his second season. That’s why we let him go. Had a good season by all accounts this season, but playing at centre half. When we let him go we didn’t need him for centre half. We had Porteous and Hanlon there, both far better players at the time.

Drey Wright is brutal.

Dhanda is *****, and we already have better than Penrice. Spittal is a good player, and I dunno many Hibs fans who wouldn’t have said he was a good signing had we got him. I like Phillips tae.

[PHeffernan]

Could we get another sell on for Josh Doig? Seemingly he's wanted by Lazio so I guess if he goes for big bucks over what Sassuolo paid for him we could be due a cut.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/josh-doig-a-transfer-priority-for-serie-a-heavyweights-as-lazio-come-calling-for-sassuolo-s-blameless-star/ar-AA1o1BBk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=be1f59b5cf0d40158391da751117e68b&ei=29

There is nothing in that article which shows that Lazio are interested in Doig.
Just a headline, a big photo and a piece of journo-fiction compiled to get people to click on it.

[Forza Fred]

Hope he’s nowhere near us - serious huddy.

Aye

But he’s a ‘proven’ SPFL player, so some on here no doubt will want to sign him.

[Forza Fred]

st Johnstone have won 5 games since the start of December( unfortunately 2 against us), the game on Saturday should be no marker for us if we are to be challenging for 3rd.

Yep,

Let’s write off any decent performances as being inconsequential, but label any poor performances as being entirely unacceptable.

Kind of Fox Newsy fair and balanced way to look at things I reckon

[Unseen work]

Gogic was a good fit when he joined. Performed the sitting midfielder role well. Never particularly good on the ball, and it seemed like he lost possession through poor passing a lot, but did a really good job protecting the defence. However, he was really pretty poor in his second season. That’s why we let him go. Had a good season by all accounts this season, but playing at centre half. When we let him go we didn’t need him for centre half. We had Porteous and Hanlon there, both far better players at the time.

Drey Wright is brutal.

Dhanda is *****, and we already have better than Penrice. Spittal is a good player, and I dunno many Hibs fans who wouldn’t have said he was a good signing had we got him. I like Phillips tae.

That’s my whole point though, some say sign the ‘best of the rest’ however they turn out to not be the players we think

Recruitment is such a difficult role as it’s easy to say in hindsight for every player - Spital has been available for about 10 years but only now are people thinking he’d maybe be worthy. Dhanda released by Swansea and goes to Ross County. Harry Clarke played for Arsenal against us in pre season which we on, signs on loan for Ross county as a right back and is a standout before sign in for us and then Stoke.

I really don’t envy people in recruitment roles

[Forza Fred]

That’s my whole point though, some say sign the ‘best of the rest’ however they turn out to not be the players we think

Recruitment is such a difficult role as it’s easy to say in hindsight for every player - Spital has been available for about 10 years but only now are people thinking he’d maybe be worthy. Dhanda released by Swansea and goes to Ross County. Harry Clarke played for Arsenal against us in pre season which we on, signs on loan for Ross county as a right back and is a standout before sign in for us and then Stoke.

I really don’t envy people in recruitment roles

Yep, some players seem to just have the matching ‘chemistry’ with a club that just can’t be replicated at another club.

Recruitment to me, seems more of an art than a science, although I get there is indeed an element of science used these days in the form of data analysis.

[PHeffernan]

Gogic was a good fit when he joined. Performed the sitting midfielder role well. Never particularly good on the ball, and it seemed like he lost possession through poor passing a lot, but did a really good job protecting the defence. However, he was really pretty poor in his second season. That’s why we let him go. Had a good season by all accounts this season, but playing at centre half. When we let him go we didn’t need him for centre half. We had Porteous and Hanlon there, both far better players at the time.

Drey Wright is brutal.

Dhanda is *****, and we already have better than Penrice. Spittal is a good player, and I dunno many Hibs fans who wouldn’t have said he was a good signing had we got him. I like Phillips tae.

Penrice would have been a cheap fix for left back where we will only have Obita in 4 weeks time.

[Iain G]

Penrice would have been a cheap fix for left back where we will only have Obita in 4 weeks time.

Just as well we don't have any games 5 weeks from now then 🤣

[GreenPJ]

Penrice would have been a cheap fix for left back where we will only have Obita in 4 weeks time.

Even if we were interested would he have come if he knew he was going to be back-up. This is where ideally we would have been in a position to have O MacIntyre as the back-up but he hasn't played enough to put that pressure on him to push the no 1 for the position as well as being able to be competent back up when called upon. I would be looking at someone who is more utility and could be used in a few positions on the left/CH as the back up in the hope that MacIntyre gets a good loan in 2024/2025 and is able to be back-up/pushing for first pick in season 2025/2026.

[Callum_62]

Hibs make pitch to keep loan duo
published at 08:17
08:17
Hibernian head coach Nick Montgomery has adopted a "never say never" approach as he hopes to keep Myziane Maolida at Easter Road despite parent club Hertha Berlin touting the 25-year-old forward around Europe on the back of his loan success in Scotland. (Edinburgh Evening News), external

Montgomery is also hopeful of retaining 29-year-old midfielder Emiliano Marcondes, who is out of contract with Bournemouth this summer. (Edinburgh Evening News)

[04Sauzee]

Ethan Erhahon getting rave reviews at Lincoln City (Div 1). Not suggesting he should be a target but he could be championship bound

https://twitter.com/HCfootball01/status/1780586291916161309?t=CtvlGNQtxAYxdy9Emp3m-w&s=19

[CapitalGreen]

Yep, some players seem to just have the matching ‘chemistry’ with a club that just can’t be replicated at another club.

Recruitment to me, seems more of an art than a science, although I get there is indeed an element of science used these days in the form of data analysis.

These players will also be inconsistent and have many poor games for their current clubs, however most of us will only see their highlights on Sportscene or in games against us and build an incomplete picture of the player.

I listened to a debate on a podcast recently with some statisticians who analysed all the transfers in Europes top 5 leagues over a specific period and had a criteria for determining whether a signing had been a success (incl minutes played and some other data points). They surmised that even the biggest clubs in Europe with the best scouts and most money only had a ~50% success rate when it came to signings.

[eastmainsmsh]

Charlie Austin would be decent if Alf moves

[keep the faith]

Allan Campbell, Greg Docherty, St J keeper. That's my first three.

[Donegal Hibby]

Don't know if this one's been mentioned already though I didn't know Darren Randolph was at Bournemouth , signed a 18 month contract at them in 2023 . Don't think he's played for them .

He's 36 now and even though it's been a few years since I seen him play for Ireland I remember that he was a good keeper for us .

If we were needing a keeper could he be a possibility with him at Bournemouth? .

[The Modfather]

Allan Campbell, Greg Docherty, St J keeper. That's my first three.

A midfield 3 of Alan Campbell, Docherty & NMW would be outstanding. All 3 having a bit of everything, maybe less so NMW in the final 3rd, but key for me all 3 having drive, tempo and athleticism to their play.

[bingo70]

Don't know if this one's been mentioned already though I didn't know Darren Randolph was at Bournemouth , signed a 18 month contract at them in 2023 . Don't think he's played for them .

He's 36 now and even though it's been a few years since I seen him play for Ireland I remember that he was a good keeper for us .

If we were needing a keeper could he be a possibility with him at Bournemouth? .

Think he’s an excellent goalie, or certainly was.

I’d have thought the guy Will Dennis who has been at Kilmarnock was far more likely though.

Montgomery being at the Dundee Utd game recently makes me think it’s the Utd goalie we will end up signing though. Apparently he’s been excellent this season so no complaints from me if it is.

[04Sauzee]

Was hoping there may be some noises about Bournemouth transfers and potentially ones that could go to other clubs before the EPL. Albert Gronbaek at Bodo Glimt looks a great player who looks like he could play in the EPL. A move to Hibs for this guy would do me 😁😁

[bingo70]

Was hoping there may be some noises about Bournemouth transfers and potentially ones that could go to other clubs before the EPL. Albert Gronbaek at Bodo Glimt looks a great player who looks like he could play in the EPL. A move to Hibs for this guy would do me 😁😁

Wonder if a move for the Ecuadorean player is still a possibility.

[04Sauzee]

Wonder if a move for the Ecuadorean player is still a possibility.

Oscar Zambrano? Didn't sign for anyone in the end and think he got a football ban for something I'm sure I read,although it was all through translate so couldn't really understand what happened.

[JimBHibees]

st Johnstone have won 5 games since the start of December( unfortunately 2 against us), the game on Saturday should be no marker for us if we are to be challenging for 3rd.

But we aren't challenging for third this season and Saturday was decent of course disappointingly after the game meant much. Just saying Saturday was a good performance and should have been six for us

[Paulie Walnuts]

A midfield 3 of Alan Campbell, Docherty & NMW would be outstanding. All 3 having a bit of everything, maybe less so NMW in the final 3rd, but key for me all 3 having drive, tempo and athleticism to their play.

I still find the idea that people wouldn’t want us going near Docherty pretty mind blowing.

[Since452]

I still find the idea that people wouldn’t want us going near Docherty pretty mind blowing.

I think people remember him for a god awful derby performance in which the whole team were rank rotten. On the whole though he was decent and i think if he'd be a key player for us.

[Hamish]

Saw talk on X of Will Ferry, Cheltenham Town wing back having received offers from Scottish clubs. Appears to be left sided.

The tweet did say he could still stay at his current club

[Hamish]

Saw talk on X of Will Ferry, Cheltenham Town wing back having received offers from Scottish clubs. Appears to be left sided.

The tweet did say he could still stay at his current club


Cheltenham Town's out-of-contract wing-back Will Ferry is the subject of interest from Scotland, as well as other EFL clubs. A compensation fee would be required as he has been offered a new deal at #ctfc

[Donegal Hibby]

Think he’s an excellent goalie, or certainly was.

I’d have thought the guy Will Dennis who has been at Kilmarnock was far more likely though.

Montgomery being at the Dundee Utd game recently makes me think it’s the Utd goalie we will end up signing though. Apparently he’s been excellent this season so no complaints from me if it is.

I'd be happy with either or even the St Johnstone keeper too . Been awhile since I seen Randolph play for Ireland which was probably around 2020 though this could be due to the two other keepers keeping him out who I rate as well though .

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think people remember him for a god awful derby performance in which the whole team were rank rotten. On the whole though he was decent and i think if he'd be a key player for us.

Agree about the derby, as you said, whole team was rotten that day and he was arguably one of the worst. Generally speaking though, he was very good.

I’d say he’s the closest thing we’ve had to McGinn since he left.

[J-C]

Just seen Will Fish coming out of M&S Kinnaird, jeezo he looks about 16 ffs, you forget he's still a young laddie.

[ruthven_raiders]

Just seen Will Fish coming out of M&S Kinnaird, jeezo he looks about 16 ffs, you forget he's still a young laddie.

Yeh some people forget how young some of the players are..... especially when they slag them off ..

[PHeffernan]

Don't know if this one's been mentioned already though I didn't know Darren Randolph was at Bournemouth , signed a 18 month contract at them in 2023 . Don't think he's played for them .

He's 36 now and even though it's been a few years since I seen him play for Ireland I remember that he was a good keeper for us .

If we were needing a keeper could he be a possibility with him at Bournemouth? .

Randolph is 37 in 9 days time and hasn't played a single club game in 4 seasons.
He's had a great career since leaving Motherwell but hasn't been a regular player for 5 seasons so is unlikely to be any better than Wollacott.

[PHeffernan]

Think he’s an excellent goalie, or certainly was.

I’d have thought the guy Will Dennis who has been at Kilmarnock was far more likely though.

Montgomery being at the Dundee Utd game recently makes me think it’s the Utd goalie we will end up signing though. Apparently he’s been excellent this season so no complaints from me if it is.

Walton just shat the bed against Partick Thistle, so probably better with Wollacott.

[bingo70]

Walton just shat the bed against Partick Thistle, so probably better with Wollacott.

If we’re looking for a goalie that never makes a mistake we could be looking for a while.

[Donegal Hibby]

If we’re looking for a goalie that never makes a mistake we could be looking for a while.

Haven't seen many that doesn't make a mistake , unfortunately for a goalkeeper their mistakes seem to get highlighted more than a outfield players . You must need to be a little mad to want to be a goalie I think .

[PHeffernan]

If we’re looking for a goalie that never makes a mistake we could be looking for a while.

The point I am really making is that most of these goalkeepers folk are suggesting for Hibs are probably no better than Wollacott, who is the back up keeper for Ghana, a country that has 6 times the population of Scotland.

[RIP]

A midfield 3 of Alan Campbell, Docherty & NMW would be outstanding. All 3 having a bit of everything, maybe less so NMW in the final 3rd, but key for me all 3 having drive, tempo and athleticism to their play.

Mitov may be possible. A move to Hibs would be a step up.

Good luck in tempting the other two back to bottom 6 SPL and away from the EPL and Championship. Ambitious lads generally only return if ghey flop in England.

[CapitalGreen]

Mitov may be possible. A move to Hibs would be a step up.

Good luck in tempting the other two back to bottom 6 SPL and away from the EPL and Championship. Ambitious lads generally return if ghey flop in England.

Its going to

Doherty has played just 43 minutes for Hull in the last 3 months while Campbell hasn’t played a minute for Milwall since mid-December.

[Halmyre Hibee]

Regarding the goalkeeper situation Liam Kelly would be my choice.

[Donegal Hibby]

The point I am really making is that most of these goalkeepers folk are suggesting for Hibs are probably no better than Wollacott, who is the back up keeper for Ghana, a country that has 6 times the population of Scotland.

I might be wrong though did someone not say Dennis was one of the top keepers for saves made in the league ?

[RIP]

Doherty has played just 43 minutes for Hull in the last 3 months while Campbell hasn’t played a minute for Milwall since mid-December.

OMG, Really?

I cant imagine Joe Newell quaking in his boots at the thought of losing his place to these superstars 😅

[04Sauzee]

Regarding the goalkeeper situation Liam Kelly would be my choice.

Not that I watch him every week but has had plenty stick from the Motherwell fans this season.

[04Sauzee]

I might be wrong though did someone not say Dennis was one of the top keepers for saves made in the league ?

Mitov with more saves but Dennis with a slightly better Save %
https://i.ibb.co/5cVYcz3/Screenshot-20240503-213920.png (https://ibb.co/MNL8NjH)

[bingo70]

Regarding the goalkeeper situation Liam Kelly would be my choice.

I think he’s out of contract in the summer.

I’ve always thought he was pretty average to be honest, at the Motherwell game a few weeks ago I was surprised how uncomfortable he seemed with the ball at his feet. Might have been down to the wind but he never struck me that day as someone I’d like us to sign.

[Donegal Hibby]

Mitov with more saves but Dennis with a slightly better Save %
https://i.ibb.co/5cVYcz3/Screenshot-20240503-213920.png (https://ibb.co/MNL8NjH)

Thanks for that . Looks like either keeper would be a good upgrade on Marshall. Reason I asked is the OP said that they probably wouldn't be any better than Wollacott though if Marshall is keeping him out then they probably are better.

[JohnM1875]

Mitov with more saves but Dennis with a slightly better Save %
https://i.ibb.co/5cVYcz3/Screenshot-20240503-213920.png (https://ibb.co/MNL8NjH)

And some folk are happy with Marshall. He's totally done and if he has been offered a new contract it needs to be on reduced terms and as a back up.

Don't doubt he's a great guy to have around the place. So much experience but he can't be starting for us next season.

[CapitalGreen]

OMG, Really?

I cant imagine Joe Newell quaking in his boots at the thought of losing his place to these superstars 😅

I’m not sure Newell has kicked a ball in 2024 either.

[MWHIBBIES]

I’m not sure Newell has kicked a ball in 2024 either.

Oh, he certainly has. You're thinking of Boyle and Vente.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I saw that de gea is still without a club.....

[Donegal Hibby]

I saw that de gea is still without a club.....

I'd rather keep Marshall tbh 😂😂😂

[joe breezy]

A step up in what way exactly? Killie are outperforming us on the park.

Bigger budget, better facilities, better support, bigger ambition.


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[JohnM1875]

Bigger budget, better facilities, better support, bigger ambition.


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Exactly. Stuff like that is just lazy. I get it after the season we've had but there's not a chance most players out there will see Kilmarnock as a more attractive club to play for, it's daft to suggest otherwise. And don't say 'European football'. They'll have one or two rounds at most. No one is taking that over a few thousand pounds per week in wages.

[PHeffernan]

Doherty has played just 43 minutes for Hull in the last 3 months while Campbell hasn’t played a minute for Milwall since mid-December.

Campbell has only made the matchday squad once since mid February.
I take it he isn't injured?
Docherty is little better, playing only 5 minutes in the last 13 games which is a similar time frame.

Campbell is contracted for another year at Luton so will want to keep picking up his big wages for another season at least.
However, 27 years old, Docherty is out of contract at the end of June so Hibs could get in there pitching.

[Brightside]

Exactly. Stuff like that is just lazy. I get it after the season we've had but there's not a chance most players out there will see Kilmarnock as a more attractive club to play for, it's daft to suggest otherwise. And don't say 'European football'. They'll have one or two rounds at most. No one is taking that over a few thousand pounds per week in wages.

I will be very surprised if we don't start the season with Will Dennis as our number 1.

[04Sauzee]

I will be very surprised if we don't start the season with Will Dennis as our number 1.

If we do, I wonder if it will be a loan or permanent.

[tamig]

Mitov may be possible. A move to Hibs would be a step up.

Good luck in tempting the other two back to bottom 6 SPL and away from the EPL and Championship. Ambitious lads generally only return if ghey flop in England.

What a daft comment. Who knows where we’ll be next season? The club are ambitious, more money coming in. European aspirations. You reckon we’ll still be a bottom 6 club next season? Need to look forward.

[Hibstrooper]

I will be very surprised if we don't start the season with Will Dennis as our number 1.

McInnes on Dennis…

https://www.thenational.scot/sport/24295124.will-dennis-kilmarnock-return-chances-rated-manager/

Can’t say I’ve seen much of him but McInnes rates him

[Heisenberg]

McInnes on Dennis…

https://www.thenational.scot/sport/24295124.will-dennis-kilmarnock-return-chances-rated-manager/

Can’t say I’ve seen much of him but McInnes rates him

One of the best goalies in the league so you’d imagine Hibs will be interested. Only one place he’ll end up if we are.

[keep the faith]

I’m not sure Newell has kicked a ball in 2024 either.

You must watch games with eyes wide closed!!!

[Squealing pig]

Simon Murray

[sean04]

2 keepers. 3 center halfs, big number 9

[eastmainsmsh]

Simon Murray

100%

[1875M]

Starting keeper, 2 centre back’s, left sided winger, number 10 and a big physical presence up top.

[Saint Hibee]

A new manager and a new first team would be a good start.

[we are hibs]

More than "two or three" quality players needed like I keep reading on here.


Try about 8

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[JohnM1875]

More than "two or three" quality players needed like I keep reading on here.


Try about 8

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Genuinely think we need about that as well. All need to be good starters as well.

[Willis1875]

If we have the money to spend like we all think we do then I’m a bit bemused why we haven’t explored the pre contract route as early as February when it was apparent that funds would be available.I don’t think anybody behind the scenes has a scooby doo about next seasons squad needs

[Unseen work]

If we have the money to spend like we all think we do then I’m a bit bemused why we haven’t explored the pre contract route as early as February when it was apparent that funds would be available.I don’t think anybody behind the scenes has a scooby doo about next seasons squad needs

Hard to do pre contracts etc when we’re unsure who the manager will be

[Willis1875]

Hard to do pre contracts etc when we’re unsure who the manager will be

If they have had doubts as far back as February then it beggars belief that he’s still in post

[A Hi-Bee]

How many times does it need saying, you build a team with a spine, a good goalie a good centre half, good ball winning midfield player with a good centre forward. 4 needed min.
The rest fill in around the spine of the team. it is not football manager.

[Heisenberg]

Guessing we’re going to have to take a big loss on Vente, the boys pish.

[04Sauzee]

EXCLUSIVE! Adam Le Fondre to leave Hibs as summer of transfer change is kickstarted | @ScottBurns75

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[eastmainsmsh]

EXCLUSIVE! Adam Le Fondre to leave Hibs as summer of transfer change is kickstarted | @ScottBurns75

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Stockport ?

[B.H.F.C]

EXCLUSIVE! Adam Le Fondre to leave Hibs as summer of transfer change is kickstarted | @ScottBurns75

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No issue with this. With the state of the squad we need to free up as much space as possible. All the out of contract players should be away for me.

He’s still got a bit quality at times but we need more.

[Northernhibee]

My first targets would be Mitov, Jason Kerr, Alex Gogic, Simon Murray.

All of a sudden you’ve got a solid, hard working, physical spine of a team to build on.

[Greensunshine]

EXCLUSIVE! Adam Le Fondre to leave Hibs as summer of transfer change is kickstarted | @ScottBurns75

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Feel for the guy. I really liked him but needs must. I hope there’s a few others that really deserve the bullet.

[Stuart93]

My first targets would be Mitov, Jason Kerr, Alex Gogic, Simon Murray.

All of a sudden you’ve got a solid, hard working, physical spine of a team to build on.

I hope we’re aiming for better than your last 2.

I’d like the first 2 though

[Northernhibee]

I hope we’re aiming for better than your last 2.

I’d like the first 2 though

The last two would improve us hugely. Proper defensive mid with a great attitude and an almighty upgrade on Vente up front.

Attitude and application need to be a key theme in our summer signings as we lack it now and they both have it in spades.

[we are hibs]

If we had got Le Fondre 3 or 4 years earlier he would've been a great player for us. Think he's done decent. A couple of glimpses that you could see he's played at a higher level. Particularly the assist for Vente V Luzern.

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[MWHIBBIES]

The last two would improve us hugely. Proper defensive mid with a great attitude and an almighty upgrade on Vente up front.

Attitude and application need to be a key theme in our summer signings as we lack it now and they both have it in spades.

Gogic isn't a defensive mid. He's a no nonsense middle of a back 3. He is nowhere near good enough on the ball to play midfield for us. He's not played midfield in a while now.

[CapitalGreen]

The last two would improve us hugely. Proper defensive mid with a great attitude and an almighty upgrade on Vente up front.

Attitude and application need to be a key theme in our summer signings as we lack it now and they both have it in spades.

Gogic has hardly played in midfield in recent years and he was abysmal in midfield for us in his 2nd season

[Northernhibee]

Gogic isn't a defensive mid. He's a no nonsense middle of a back 3. He is nowhere near good enough on the ball to play midfield for us. He's not played midfield in a while now.

I rated him highly in that position when he was with us, and would offer protection to the back line in a way none of our current midfield does.

The fact he could drop into a back line if he had to is an added bonus.

[ChuckNor]

My first targets would be Mitov, Jason Kerr, Alex Gogic, Simon Murray.

All of a sudden you’ve got a solid, hard working, physical spine of a team to build on.

If you think we are signing experienced pros in the Scottish leagues you’re sorely mistaken. That’s not why Bournemouth “invested” in us. We are about to become their youth team testing ground.

[Smartie]

I would sign Gogic but to play at CH.

I’d also sign Murray.

2 players who have excelled at our level this season in positions we’re crying out for whilst being available on free transfers - thus leaving valuable resource available to try to capture the real star quality, the likes of Maoluda again, even if it was just for a season on loan.

Agree with the point above - unfortunately - about us from now on being the testing ground for young, up and coming Bournemouth players to make their mistakes.

[MWHIBBIES]

I rated him highly in that position when he was with us, and would offer protection to the back line in a way none of our current midfield does.

The fact he could drop into a back line if he had to is an added bonus.

He just isn't the guy we need. He is so poor on the ball. You think our football is ugly now, him as our deepest midfielder would turn us into Livi.

[Northernhibee]

He just isn't the guy we need. He is so poor on the ball. You think our football is ugly now, him as our deepest midfielder would turn us into Livi.

I honestly always thought we were a bit harsh on him about that. He never tried to be something he wasn’t - won the ball, played simple passes to more effective players, and did the ugly work for the benefit of the team.

We were almost always stronger as a team with him in it than without IMO.

[MWHIBBIES]

I honestly always thought we were a bit harsh on him about that. He never tried to be something he wasn’t - won the ball, played simple passes to more effective players, and did the ugly work for the benefit of the team.

We were almost always stronger as a team with him in it than without IMO.

That's enough to a point. Then the opposition sit in and he needs to play and he's a man down.

[Mikey_1875]

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I’ve generally liked him when he has been available but this news has coincided with probably his worst performance in a Hibs jersey today. Won’t lose any sleep over it.

[Unseen work]

Really like ALF.

Such a good finisher and our best centre forward.

Wish him all the best

[Ronniekirk]

We are still potentially going to be stuck with a rump of players on contracts that we can’t move on Jair McKirdy the keeper that played today to name three Loads more

[Nicho87]

New goalie
Jason Kerr
Left sided centre half
Proper number 6
A left winger with a left foot
Striker

Easier to say players id like to keep

Obita
Moriah-Welsh
Mailoda
Boyle
Cadden

The result all free to move on

[Northernhibee]

We are still potentially going to be stuck with a rump of players on contracts that we can’t move on Jair McKirdy the keeper that played today to name three Loads more

It’s frightening how our squad is both incredibly bloated and paper thin in terms of quality.

[jakeshibs]

Surely Jason Kerr is a huge risk with the injuries he has sustained and amount of treatment required?

[Ronniekirk]

It’s frightening how our squad is both incredibly bloated and paper thin in terms of quality.
It’s a big problem for the Manager and recruitment team /Director of Football whoever they are

[sleeping giant]

I wouldn't be against signing Simon Murray.
Big dirty experienced hardworking front man who scores goals.
What's not to like?

[1875Sean]

I wouldn't be against signing Simon Murray.
Big dirty experienced hardworking front man who scores goals.
What's not to like?

I admire Murray but he is 32 and he may only have another season or two, long term is isn’t the answer

[Stuart93]

I wouldn't be against signing Simon Murray.
Big dirty experienced hardworking front man who scores goals.
What's not to like?

Dirty? Big? Have you got the right player

[sleeping giant]

Dirty? Big? Have you got the right player

He's a big lad that gets stuck in. Is that better ?

[Northernhibee]

I admire Murray but he is 32 and he may only have another season or two, long term is isn’t the answer

Right now we need to focus on digging ourselves out of the **** short term as we’re not good enough to guarantee survival in the league next season.

A two year deal would be fine.

[Stuart93]

He's a big lad that gets stuck in. Is that better ?

Not really. He’s not a big lad?

[MWHIBBIES]

Right now we need to focus on digging ourselves out of the **** short term as we’re not good enough to guarantee survival in the league next season.

A two year deal would be fine.

No chance. This is a crap league. We could quite easily finish top 4 with 4/5 solid signings. Let's do that.

If we had had Maolida all season we'd be 5th right now quite easily I'd think.