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CJHibby
18-04-2024, 12:41 PM
..I'll eat my hat

scuttle
18-04-2024, 12:49 PM
..I'll eat my hat

In that case you will be Fed ora

Bostonhibby
18-04-2024, 01:02 PM
Would you like some parmesan with that sir/madam?

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Exuberance1875
18-04-2024, 01:32 PM
Massively intrigued to see if he changes the team for this given the “statement” last night.

Surely he’s got to try something different, we are all tired of seeing the same old faces fail us time and time again.

Could save his job if he does - much like changing from 4-4-2 earlier would have bought him much more time.

SHODAN
18-04-2024, 02:16 PM
Given the board actually seem to care what these results will be, I suspect the aim is to finish 7th for the limited prize difference it gives us. Ten points minimum.

Heisenberg
18-04-2024, 02:18 PM
Massively intrigued to see if he changes the team for this given the “statement” last night.

Surely he’s got to try something different, we are all tired of seeing the same old faces fail us time and time again.

Could save his job if he does - much like changing from 4-4-2 earlier would have bought him much more time.

Our results haven’t really improved after he changed the formation have they? Style of play is more of an issue.

easty
18-04-2024, 02:28 PM
Massively intrigued to see if he changes the team for this given the “statement” last night.

Surely he’s got to try something different, we are all tired of seeing the same old faces fail us time and time again.

Could save his job if he does - much like changing from 4-4-2 earlier would have bought him much more time.

I’m not sure there’s much he can change at this point.

He should’ve realised early on we are too easy to score against, and teams will cross balls in constantly as we can’t defend them.

We should’ve been working on defending that with whatever way he could set us up, if he can change our style now to deal with that better…why hasn’t he done it already?

Since452
18-04-2024, 02:52 PM
Massively intrigued to see if he changes the team for this given the “statement” last night.

Surely he’s got to try something different, we are all tired of seeing the same old faces fail us time and time again.

Could save his job if he does - much like changing from 4-4-2 earlier would have bought him much more time.

If we suddenly improve and batter them after the statement then it might lead to even more questions. He shouldn't need a kick up the arse from above to get us a result. Obviously hope we do.

scuttle
18-04-2024, 03:31 PM
In that case you will be Fed ora

Or maybe some beanies

Tha Cabbage Kid
18-04-2024, 05:51 PM
wonder if he will bring Halon back into the fold? maybe play a back 3


Hanlon Rock Fish

Nicho87
18-04-2024, 05:53 PM
If I was Hanlon I’d tell Monty to ram it

Suddenly starts after been given an ultimatum

I bet a few of the players would feel like that

DarlingtonHibee
18-04-2024, 09:10 PM
If I was Hanlon I’d tell Monty to ram it

Suddenly starts after been given an ultimatum

A bet of the players would feel like that

What was the ultimatum?

Skol
18-04-2024, 09:28 PM
The knives will get sharper

I don’t think he really did change the formation much.

Unseen work
18-04-2024, 09:55 PM
wonder if he will bring Halon back into the fold? maybe play a back 3


Hanlon Rock Fish

Can’t see it as that would show a lack of forward planning.

I do think against Motherwell though we looked much more like a 442 again with Marcondes playing really high.

I think for Monty’s and the teams sakes he needs to drop Boyle and have Elie on the right. I can’t see him being brave enough to do it though.

Maolida on the left and then Vente/ALF up top.

Forza Fred
18-04-2024, 10:01 PM
If I was Hanlon I’d tell Monty to ram it

Suddenly starts after been given an ultimatum

A bet of the players would feel like that

What ultimatum?

California-Hibs
19-04-2024, 12:50 AM
wonder if he will bring Halon back into the fold? maybe play a back 3


Hanlon Rock Fish

*shudders*

greenlex
19-04-2024, 04:35 AM
Don’t think he will change much. We are creating chances in the main.
Tuck them away a wee bit concentration at the back and it’s a different story.. The players need to step up to the plate not so much the manager. 5 wins to finish.

flash
19-04-2024, 07:00 AM
wonder if he will bring Halon back into the fold? maybe play a back 3


Hanlon Rock Fish

Jeez I hope not.

NC1875
19-04-2024, 08:34 AM
Don’t think he will change much. We are creating chances in the main.
Tuck them away a wee bit concentration at the back and it’s a different story.. The players need to step up to the plate not so much the manager. 5 wins to finish.

If we win the last 5 games, just like the op, I’ll eat my hat.

Never happening.

NORTHERNHIBBY
19-04-2024, 10:00 AM
wonder if he will bring Halon back into the fold? maybe play a back 3


Hanlon Rock Fish

More likely to be a front three given Monty's fondness for surprise formations.

Ronniekirk
19-04-2024, 11:21 AM
It won’t really be a surprise if they score a late winner Levin knows how we play so Monty is going to have to show he can come up with something different to come out on top

tamh
19-04-2024, 12:16 PM
If I was Hanlon I’d tell Monty to ram it

Suddenly starts after been given an ultimatum

I bet a few of the players would feel like that
Defo....... Has to keep himself fit and free from injuries for his next team:agree:

jacomo
19-04-2024, 12:22 PM
Given the board actually seem to care what these results will be, I suspect the aim is to finish 7th for the limited prize difference it gives us. Ten points minimum.


Removing the small chance of relegation at the earliest opportunity should be the focus now. Win this game, then start looking ahead to next season.

B.H.F.C
19-04-2024, 04:06 PM
Defo....... Has to keep himself fit and free from injuries for his next team:agree:

Pretty sure Paul Hanlon would much rather take the opportunity to play as many minutes as possible, if he gets the chance. Given the fact he’ll know he probably has a maximum of 5 more opportunities to do so.

MWHIBBIES
19-04-2024, 04:12 PM
If I was Hanlon I’d tell Monty to ram it

Suddenly starts after been given an ultimatum

I bet a few of the players would feel like that

If you were Paul Hanlon, a lifelong Hibs fan, club legend, cup winner, you'd refuse to play for Hibs in what would be your final 5 matches?

Thankfully Paul has a bit more class than you then.

JimBHibees
20-04-2024, 04:39 PM
What ultimatum?

No one knows

Keith_M
20-04-2024, 06:33 PM
..I'll eat my hat


If Hibs beat St Johnstone... and do so by more than a two goal margin... I'll eat Craig Levein.

chippy
20-04-2024, 07:12 PM
wonder if he will bring Halon back into the fold? maybe play a back 3


Hanlon Rock Fish

Actually not a bad shout. Cadds and Obita playing wing backs high up and pressing. NMW, Newell , Triantis midfield. Start with Maolida and Youan up top. Boyle, ALF , Vente, Campbell, Marcondes Bench

Nicho87
20-04-2024, 07:32 PM
If you were Paul Hanlon, a lifelong Hibs fan, club legend, cup winner, you'd refuse to play for Hibs in what would be your final 5 matches?

Thankfully Paul has a bit more class than you then.

Think your taking the point quite literal

However, cheers

darwenhibby
20-04-2024, 08:36 PM
If we don’t beat St Johnstone
We just dust ourselves down and move on to the Ross County game and try our best to beat them
Simple

xyz23jc
20-04-2024, 09:28 PM
*shudders*

It's like the Paper/Rock/Scissors game, only with the softest one wins! :greengrin

ian cruise
20-04-2024, 10:24 PM
wonder if he will bring Halon back into the fold? maybe play a back 3


Hanlon Rock Fish

Alf
Marcondes
Maolida Yuoan

Newell NMW

Obita Hanlon Rock Fish Cadden

Back three when attacking, Obita and Cadden fall back to defense if any of central defence are caught upfield.

FifeHibs
20-04-2024, 10:56 PM
Alf
Marcondes
Maolida Yuoan

Newell NMW

Obita Hanlon Rock Fish Cadden





Back three when attacking, Obita and Cadden fall back to defense if any of central defence are caught upfield.


We need a keeper mate

The Baldmans Comb
20-04-2024, 11:08 PM
It's a meaningless game in every sense of the word as Montgomery is totally doomed.👍

Its totally inconceivable that the Black Knights will entrust £15m to this complete rookie over the next few years.

They will want their own man place with a starter for 10 being charisma and at least a basic knowledge of Scottish football.

Nicho87
21-04-2024, 05:41 AM
It's a meaningless game in every sense of the word as Montgomery is totally doomed.👍

Its totally inconceivable that the Black Knights will entrust £15m to this complete rookie over the next few years.

They will want their own man place with a starter for 10 being charisma and at least a basic knowledge of Scottish football.

Spot on

No one from Foley set up going to be comfortable with an investment being managed by a coach who’s results quite frankly are alarmingly bad for all to see

Writing is on the wall

It’s why I wish hibs would pull the trigger and get it done for both his and our sake

What if he loses the first two split games Easter road will have no fans in it first of all plus not many folks going to be standing with Monty

Victor
21-04-2024, 07:37 AM
What ultimatum?

Maybe it’s like the Bourne Ultimatum, it sounds good, but no one has a clue what it is.

1620
21-04-2024, 08:55 AM
Spot on

No one from Foley set up going to be comfortable with an investment being managed by a coach who’s results quite frankly are alarmingly bad for all to see

Writing is on the wall

It’s why I wish hibs would pull the trigger and get it done for both his and our sake

What if he loses the first two split games Easter road will have no fans in it first of all plus not many folks going to be standing with Monty

If he loses the first two split games there will be a lot of brown stuff running down the legs of Hibee fans.

DH1875
21-04-2024, 09:14 AM
If we lose the next 2 games then i would think Easter Rd could be pretty full for the 2 home games as we'd then potentially be in a battle to avoid relegation.
If being the key word though as even a point from the 2 games will be enough.

chippy
21-04-2024, 09:26 AM
If we lose the next 2 games then i would think Easter Rd could be pretty full for the 2 home games as we'd then potentially be in a battle to avoid relegation.
If being the key word though as even a point from the 2 games will be enough.

Stop it please.. this will affect my sleeping

GreenPJ
21-04-2024, 09:28 AM
It's a meaningless game in every sense of the word as Montgomery is totally doomed.👍

Its totally inconceivable that the Black Knights will entrust £15m to this complete rookie over the next few years.

They will want their own man place with a starter for 10 being charisma and at least a basic knowledge of Scottish football.

They brought in a manager to Bournemouth who had never managed (or played to my knowledge) in the EPL at the expense of a young but up and coming manager who had played and managed the EPL team. Am not convinced the Scottish football knowledge would be a key element for them but someone who has a clear sense of how they want to play and has a winning mentality.

Am still not sure if Monty will go or not but whoever it is recruitment is ultimately the key to success and finding a strong leader on the park will be the key piece of the jigsaw.

BoomtownHibees
21-04-2024, 09:32 AM
Alf
Marcondes
Maolida Yuoan

Newell NMW

Obita Hanlon Rock Fish Cadden

Back three when attacking, Obita and Cadden fall back to defense if any of central defence are caught upfield.

Well Levein tried playing without a striker. I prefer your idea of playing without a goalie

Callum_62
21-04-2024, 06:31 PM
It's a meaningless game in every sense of the word as Montgomery is totally doomed.[emoji106]

Its totally inconceivable that the Black Knights will entrust £15m to this complete rookie over the next few years.

They will want their own man place with a starter for 10 being charisma and at least a basic knowledge of Scottish football.Surely Monty now has atleast a basic knowledge of Scottish football?

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Forza Fred
22-04-2024, 12:22 AM
It's a meaningless game in every sense of the word as Montgomery is totally doomed.👍

Its totally inconceivable that the Black Knights will entrust £15m to this complete rookie over the next few years.

They will want their own man place with a starter for 10 being charisma and at least a basic knowledge of Scottish football.

$15 million?

Forza Fred
22-04-2024, 12:27 AM
They brought in a manager to Bournemouth who had never managed (or played to my knowledge) in the EPL at the expense of a young but up and coming manager who had played and managed the EPL team. Am not convinced the Scottish football knowledge would be a key element for them but someone who has a clear sense of how they want to play and has a winning mentality.

Am still not sure if Monty will go or not but whoever it is recruitment is ultimately the key to success and finding a strong leader on the park will be the key piece of the jigsaw.

Yep.

Managers, support staff, tactics, culture etc etc.

All matter I guess.

But ultimately the over riding factor between success or failure is the quality of players we put out.

Get better players than the ones we currently have and we’ll perform……better.

easty
22-04-2024, 06:26 AM
Yep.

Managers, support staff, tactics, culture etc etc.

All matter I guess.

But ultimately the over riding factor between success or failure is the quality of players we put out.

Get better players than the ones we currently have and we’ll perform……better.

We already have better players than St Mirren, Killie and Dundee. The way they’re set up and manager matters a lot.

McGruber
22-04-2024, 08:25 AM
Alf
Marcondes
Maolida Yuoan

Newell NMW

Obita Hanlon Rock Fish Cadden

Back three when attacking, Obita and Cadden fall back to defense if any of central defence are caught upfield.

This season is over, all about next season. Would only be playing Fish, Marcondes and Myziane if there is the real possibility they are staying. Assuming not then,

Johnson (in for last 5)

Obita (with sub appearances for Stevenson)
Hanlon
Rocky
Cadden

Newell
NMW
Campbell

Boyle
Vente
Youan

With plenty game time off the bench for youngsters on the fringes, Molotnikov, McAllister, Blaney and whoever else worth a run out that's not on loan.

Think we have a year option on ALF's contract aswell so would have off the bench - or in for Boyle to partner Vente. Would be giving ALF another year.

easty
22-04-2024, 08:29 AM
This season is over, all about next season. Would only be playing Fish, Marcondes and Myziane if there is the real possibility they are staying. Assuming not then,

Johnson (in for last 5)

Obita (with sub appearances for Stevenson)
Hanlon
Rocky
Cadden

Newell
NMW
Campbell

Boyle
Vente
Youan

With plenty game time off the bench for youngsters on the fringes, Molotnikov, McAllister, Blaney and whoever else worth a run out that's not on loan.

Think we have a year option on ALF's contract aswell so would have off the bench - or in for Boyle to partner Vente. Would be giving ALF another year.

If the manager really wants to attempt to keep his job he'll no be leaving Marcondes and Maolida on the bench and playing Josh Campbell.

McGruber
22-04-2024, 08:43 AM
If the manager really wants to attempt to keep his job he'll no be leaving Marcondes and Maolida on the bench and playing Josh Campbell.

There is that aspect yes and doubt he would leave them out, it's just what I would like to see as the season is burst.

Disagree on Marcondes though. Last couple performances before the split somewhere between rubbish and uninterested.
Maybe too much football after injury or maybe doesn't fancy it any more. Wouldn't be hanging my hat on him even though talent wise is unquestionable

LaMotta
22-04-2024, 12:37 PM
If the manager really wants to attempt to keep his job he'll no be leaving Marcondes and Maolida on the bench and playing Josh Campbell.

Theres also around £200k more prize money for finishing 7th compared to 9th........

Malthibby
22-04-2024, 06:44 PM
Removing the small chance of relegation at the earliest opportunity should be the focus now. Win this game, then start looking ahead to next season.


This....largely safe but if we were to lose our first two against St. J & Ross County I'd be getting the big man nappies on.
We cannot afford to end up in a play-off...

Onceinawhile
23-04-2024, 08:41 PM
This season is over, all about next season. Would only be playing Fish, Marcondes and Myziane if there is the real possibility they are staying. Assuming not then,

Johnson (in for last 5)

Obita (with sub appearances for Stevenson)
Hanlon
Rocky
Cadden

Newell
NMW
Campbell

Boyle
Vente
Youan

With plenty game time off the bench for youngsters on the fringes, Molotnikov, McAllister, Blaney and whoever else worth a run out that's not on loan.

Think we have a year option on ALF's contract aswell so would have off the bench - or in for Boyle to partner Vente. Would be giving ALF another year.

Molotnikov, mcallister and blaney are all out on loan.

McGruber
23-04-2024, 10:49 PM
Molotnikov, mcallister and blaney are all out on loan.

Ah okay, substitute those for some other youngsters we still have in the building

ozwoody
24-04-2024, 12:27 AM
Just give Stevenson game time in 2 of next 3 games and bring him on in last 5 min of Motherwell game to bring him up to 600 appearances.

It would increase crowd a bit and a good way to send off a club legend.

Tambo
24-04-2024, 09:46 AM
Just give Stevenson game time in 2 of next 3 games and bring him on in last 5 min of Motherwell game to bring him up to 600 appearances.

It would increase crowd a bit and a good way to send off a club legend.

Sounds like a decent way to end the season.

Paulie Walnuts
24-04-2024, 10:55 AM
There is that aspect yes and doubt he would leave them out, it's just what I would like to see as the season is burst.

Disagree on Marcondes though. Last couple performances before the split somewhere between rubbish and uninterested.
Maybe too much football after injury or maybe doesn't fancy it any more. Wouldn't be hanging my hat on him even though talent wise is unquestionable

Agree re Marcondes. I’d give Campbell a chance ahead of him.

More than anything I’d want to see Maolida playing just so we can have the slightest hint of enjoyment from the remaining games.

Fuzzywuzzy
24-04-2024, 06:49 PM
This is what p&b have on us

https://twitter.com/pieandbov/status/1780943975962103844?t=MBg4gGQPrnZgdkAdgSt3Vg&s=19

HibbyAndy
24-04-2024, 06:52 PM
Just give Stevenson game time in 2 of next 3 games and bring him on in last 5 min of Motherwell game to bring him up to 600 appearances.

It would increase crowd a bit and a good way to send off a club legend.

This simply has to happen

Basildon Hibs
24-04-2024, 06:58 PM
Spot on

No one from Foley set up going to be comfortable with an investment being managed by a coach who’s results quite frankly are alarmingly bad for all to see

Writing is on the wall

It’s why I wish hibs would pull the trigger and get it done for both his and our sake

What if he loses the first two split games Easter road will have no fans in it first of all plus not many folks going to be standing with Monty

👍👍👊

Pretty Boy
24-04-2024, 06:59 PM
Probably no real surprise but I bought my tickets yesterday and the sales for the Hibs end look terrible. I daresay a fair few will just buy on the day but between both stands it looks like we have sold about 2-300.

I've no idea what to expect from us. You know what you will get with St Johnstone. It will be stuffy, niggly and they'll be well up for it. I doubt it's going to be a classic but I'm hoping for something that gives a bit of cause for optimism.

Not In The Know
24-04-2024, 07:22 PM
Probably no real surprise but I bought my tickets yesterday and the sales for the Hibs end look terrible. I daresay a fair few will just buy on the day but between both stands it looks like we have sold about 2-300.

I've no idea what to expect from us. You know what you will get with St Johnstone. It will be stuffy, niggly and they'll be well up for it. I doubt it's going to be a classic but I'm hoping for something that gives a bit of cause for optimism.


It's probably up there with our least appealing fixture of the season. Maybe even last two seasons. Hats off to anyone who make the trip

Not In The Know
24-04-2024, 07:38 PM
Probably no real surprise but I bought my tickets yesterday and the sales for the Hibs end look terrible. I daresay a fair few will just buy on the day but between both stands it looks like we have sold about 2-300.

I've no idea what to expect from us. You know what you will get with St Johnstone. It will be stuffy, niggly and they'll be well up for it. I doubt it's going to be a classic but I'm hoping for something that gives a bit of cause for optimism.


It's probably up there with our least appealing fixture of the season. Maybe even last two seasons. Hats off to anyone who make the trip

eastterrace
24-04-2024, 07:53 PM
It's probably up there with our least appealing fixture of the season. Maybe even last two seasons. Hats off to anyone who make the trip
I usually go up to Perth for this fixture as it’s a quick journey and you can get into the social club before the game but I just couldn’t face watching us struggle against them and seeing levien puss if they win.

He's here!
26-04-2024, 05:13 PM
It's probably up there with our least appealing fixture of the season. Maybe even last two seasons. Hats off to anyone who make the trip

Maybe partly to do with the break for the cup semis last week and also today's summer-type weather but it feels as if the season's over. I haven't given a thought to the game. Not surprised to hear so few are bothering to go.

Billy Whizz
26-04-2024, 05:18 PM
Maybe partly to do with the break for the cup semis last week and also today's summer-type weather but it feels as if the season's over. I haven't given a thought to the game. Not surprised to hear so few are bothering to go.

Not many tickets sold in the Hibs end

Power
26-04-2024, 06:07 PM
✳️ E-tickets will be available until 3:30pm tomorrow for this one - https://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/travelling-support.

✳️ Tickets can be printed at home or presented at the turnstile on a mobile phone for scanning (screen shots accepted but each QR code can only be scanned once)

✳️ Hibs supporters will be accommodated in the north end of the Main Stand (turnstiles 5/6/7) and the North Stand (turnstiles 8/9).

✳️ Match programmes will be available - £3.50 (cash only to sellers)

✳️ Kiosks accept cash/card/contactless

✳️ Away support general parking will be accommodated to the west of the all-weather pitch - enter the car park via the away support entrance. St.Johnstone have 10 disabled parking bays for visiting disabled supporters to book in advance. These can be booked by emailing [email protected]

✳️ Buses/coaches/minibuses are FOC, cars £5 each - cash to attendant on the day. Egress post-match is directly on to the A9 southbound, heading to Broxden Roundabout

✳️Foodbank collection: Saints Fans Supporting Foodbanks will be hosting their usual collection between 1.30-2.45pm with their collection point located outside the Ormond Stand (next to The Saints Shop at the south end of the stadium). Donations from Hibs fans will be gratefully accepted

✳️ The Muirton Bar located at the south end of our Main Stand is open to pre-booked Hibs supporters' buses only

GreenCastle
26-04-2024, 06:40 PM
Not many tickets sold in the Hibs end

Can’t blame any fans for the money spent supporting the team this season.

From a good crowd last time against St J away to a really bad away support tomorrow - hopefully the club realise the low turnouts for final 5 games how pissed off fans are.

The Modfather
26-04-2024, 06:59 PM
Would be top trolling if Monty was to go 442 and start Tavares tomorrow. My team:

Johnson

Obita
Fish/Hanlon (draw straws)
Rocky (on the right)
Cadden

NMW
Amos
Macintyre

Maolida
Vente
Youan

Onceinawhile
26-04-2024, 07:29 PM
Would be top trolling if Monty was to go 442 and start Tavares tomorrow. My team:

Johnson

Obita
Fish/Hanlon (draw straws)
Rocky (on the right)
Cadden

NMW
Amos
Macintyre

Maolida
Vente
Youan

Wouldn't start Amos. He's been out for months. 15-20 minutes towards the end at most.

Would only start fish if he's likely to be here next year as well.

Donegal Hibby
26-04-2024, 09:04 PM
Wee mention for ' one of our own ' hitting his 100th appearances for the Hibees.
Well done Josh :applause:

https://twitter.com/HibernianFC/status/1783949922133254432?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-playmaker-relief-broken-ankle-diagnosis-4607154

Alfred E Newman
26-04-2024, 09:06 PM
I see our record in the last 58 games against Saints we have won 20 lost 22 and drawn 16.
No further comment required!

IberianHibernian
26-04-2024, 09:51 PM
I see our record in the last 58 games against Saints we have won 20 lost 22 and drawn 16.
No further comment required!In a period in which St J have won 3 major trophies ( probably more than any other non OF team ) . Also shows we`ve struggled against St J with quite a few managers so not something to attack Montgomery for . Wonder if Hearts , Aberdeen , Dundee clubs have a better record against St J in same period .

Musselbound
27-04-2024, 04:24 AM
In a period in which St J have won 3 major trophies ( probably more than any other non OF team ) . Also shows we`ve struggled against St J with quite a few managers so not something to attack Montgomery for . Wonder if Hearts , Aberdeen , Dundee clubs have a better record against St J in same period .

Agree. Fans who say stuff like we shouldn't be losing to the likes of St Johnstone, etc are overlooking many years of harsh reality. I dread playing them. Especially at home.

superfurryhibby
27-04-2024, 07:38 AM
In a period in which St J have won 3 major trophies ( probably more than any other non OF team ) . Also shows we`ve struggled against St J with quite a few managers so not something to attack Montgomery for . Wonder if Hearts , Aberdeen , Dundee clubs have a better record against St J in same period .

I’ll take a wild guess at this one and suggest that Hearts and Aberdeen will have much better records v St J’s than Hibs over a comparable number of games.

Totally take your point that that (disgraceful) record v the dull St Johnston extends beyond Monty. Our record v them has been a consistent negative for years.

MWHIBBIES
27-04-2024, 08:20 AM
I’ll take a wild guess at this one and suggest that Hearts and Aberdeen will have much better records v St J’s than Hibs over a comparable number of games.

Totally take your point that that (disgraceful) record v the dull St Johnston extends beyond Monty. Our record v them has been a consistent negative for years.

With Lennon being probably the worst of all

Pretty Boy
27-04-2024, 08:35 AM
Agree. Fans who say stuff like we shouldn't be losing to the likes of St Johnstone, etc are overlooking many years of harsh reality. I dread playing them. Especially at home.

We shouldn't be losing to St Johnstone. Obviously you won't win every game v everyone but certainly over any extended period we should be beating St Johnstone more often than we lose to them and for the last decade that hasn't been the case.

I don't care about what the record says, records like that are why so many people are pissed off at the club because it's a million miles away from good enough. If we play St Johnstone 3 times a season then we should be taking 6-7 points from 9 more often than not. Anything else is just rubbish.

SHODAN
27-04-2024, 08:59 AM
Since St Johnstone's promotion to the SPL in 2009, this is how our record compares to them.

Finishes:
3rd: Hibs 1, StJ 1
4th: Hibs 2, StJ 3
5th: Hibs 2, StJ 1
6th: Hibs 0, StJ 3
Top six: Hibs 5, StJ 8
Lower division: Hibs 3, StJ 0

Cups:
Wins: Hibs 1, StJ 3
Finals: Hibs 6, StJ 3
SFs: Hibs 14, StJ 8

Wins v other teams:
Hearts: Hibs 11 in 54 (20%), StJ 16 in 47 (34%)
Celtic: Hibs 5 in 46 (11%), StJ 4 in 57 (7%)
Rangers: Hibs 11 in 50 (22%), StJ 5 in 40 (13%)

Dublin07
27-04-2024, 09:07 AM
I see our record in the last 58 games against Saints we have won 20 lost 22 and drawn 16.
No further comment required!

It’s a poor record but up until the last year hearts wasn’t any better. Since 2009 their record is w-18 d-10 l-13 but they have won the last 6. I think st Johnstone are a horrible team but they have had the most successful period in their history last 15 years and a lot of teams have suffered against them.

JimBHibees
27-04-2024, 11:41 AM
✳️ E-tickets will be available until 3:30pm tomorrow for this one - https://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/travelling-support.

✳️ Tickets can be printed at home or presented at the turnstile on a mobile phone for scanning (screen shots accepted but each QR code can only be scanned once)

✳️ Hibs supporters will be accommodated in the north end of the Main Stand (turnstiles 5/6/7) and the North Stand (turnstiles 8/9).

✳️ Match programmes will be available - £3.50 (cash only to sellers)

✳️ Kiosks accept cash/card/contactless

✳️ Away support general parking will be accommodated to the west of the all-weather pitch - enter the car park via the away support entrance. St.Johnstone have 10 disabled parking bays for visiting disabled supporters to book in advance. These can be booked by emailing [email protected]

✳️ Buses/coaches/minibuses are FOC, cars £5 each - cash to attendant on the day. Egress post-match is directly on to the A9 southbound, heading to Broxden Roundabout

✳️Foodbank collection: Saints Fans Supporting Foodbanks will be hosting their usual collection between 1.30-2.45pm with their collection point located outside the Ormond Stand (next to The Saints Shop at the south end of the stadium). Donations from Hibs fans will be gratefully accepted

✳️ The Muirton Bar located at the south end of our Main Stand is open to pre-booked Hibs supporters' buses only

Are fans able to walk up for Muirton bar at ground? Driving up. If not is there a bar nearby?

Is It On....
27-04-2024, 11:59 AM
..I'll eat my hat

It will be 3 wins in the last 17 league games

DIXIHIBS
27-04-2024, 12:00 PM
Since St Johnstone's promotion to the SPL in 2009, this is how our record compares to them.

Finishes:
3rd: Hibs 1, StJ 1
4th: Hibs 2, StJ 3
5th: Hibs 2, StJ 1
6th: Hibs 0, StJ 3
Top six: Hibs 5, StJ 8
Lower division: Hibs 3, StJ 0

Cups:
Wins: Hibs 1, StJ 3
Finals: Hibs 6, StJ 3
SFs: Hibs 14, StJ 8

Wins v other teams:
Hearts: Hibs 11 in 54 (20%), StJ 16 in 47 (34%)
Celtic: Hibs 5 in 46 (11%), StJ 4 in 57 (7%)
Rangers: Hibs 11 in 50 (22%), StJ 5 in 40 (13%)

Few scary stats in there. One team over achieving...the other team under achieving.

superfurryhibby
27-04-2024, 12:03 PM
Since St Johnstone's promotion to the SPL in 2009, this is how our record compares to them.

Finishes:
3rd: Hibs 1, StJ 1
4th: Hibs 2, StJ 3
5th: Hibs 2, StJ 1
6th: Hibs 0, StJ 3
Top six: Hibs 5, StJ 8
Lower division: Hibs 3, StJ 0

Cups:
Wins: Hibs 1, StJ 3
Finals: Hibs 6, StJ 3
SFs: Hibs 14, StJ 8

Wins v other teams:
Hearts: Hibs 11 in 54 (20%), StJ 16 in 47 (34%)
Celtic: Hibs 5 in 46 (11%), StJ 4 in 57 (7%)
Rangers: Hibs 11 in 50 (22%), StJ 5 in 40 (13%)

Interesting stats. They show how poor our cup record is when we get to hampden.

Given the disparity between our budgets, it also shows how badly managed Hibs have been when it comes to league football, although our three years in the Championship with mitigate slightly.