Season now not quite over..

[Carheenlea]

Ross County’s win today puts us 9 points ahead of them and clear of the play off spot.

Things could get messy here. We’ve seen the “just one win” scenario before, and it didn’t end well.

The fact that we’re only nine points clear from the play off spot at this stage might just end up being the final confirmation that a change could be required.

[B.H.F.C]

Ross County and St Johnstone would probably need to win all their games to catch us (which they obviously aren’t both able to do).

We’ll undoubtedly draw a couple of games. We’ll pick a win up along the line and probably chuck in a shocker Somerset along the line.

We’re no ending up in the playoffs.

[Pretty Boy]

I just don't see it.

Is it possible we could go to the end of the seasons without picking up a single point? Possibly but I'd say unlikely.

Is there a hope in hell we will pick up no more points and Motherwell, Aberdeen, St Johnstone and Ross County will all pick up 3, 6, 9 and 10 points respectively? Not a chance and it only needs one of them to fail to do that for us to be safe as we currently have a cushion on all of them. Goal difference may be a factor with Motherwell and Aberdeen but with the other 2 you would need 15 and 17 goals swings and that only comes into play if they get 8 and 9 points more than us.

[He's here!]

Said it on another thread but yesterday is now looking like an important point as I can't see us being cut from the right cloth to cope with a relegation threat.

Relatively confident we're far enough ahead but on the other hand there's no fixture I'd be utterly confident of winning.

[Greensunshine]

That would be the wet dream of most Jambo’s

Do Hibs have it in them to do the spectacular of all spectaculars and end up getting relegated?

You ****ing better believe it.

[Dashing Bob S]

Said it on another thread but yesterday is now looking like an important point as I can't see us being cut from the right cloth to cope with a relegation threat.

Relatively confident we're far enough ahead but on the other hand there's no fixture I'd be utterly confident of winning.

If it was tighter I'd be worried but we'll probably win them all as there really is nothing at stake.

I've more fear us now demolishing the opposition and believing that we've turned the corner/clicked into place etc, while the truth is that we can't win big games, A'deen, Huns (cups), Hearts (derbies) and St Johnstone, Motherwell (league). Lulling ourselves into a false sense of security against dross in meaningless games and reactivating a misplaced superiority complex is possibly our next trick.

[Carheenlea]

I think yesterday will have shattered the players.

I can’t see their hearts being properly in it for the opening couple of games, and facing clubs who are fighting for their lives we can start the bottom six off with a couples of defeats no bother at all.

This could be Butcher II

[wookie70]

I can't see both St Johnstone and Ross County getting enough points to overtake us and also Motherwell and Aberdeen getting points too. There are only so many points available. For us to end up in a play off I think we would have to lose all 5 games and even then we may well be ok. That isn't to say that the team and manager should not be thinking it is a possibility though and making sure we take care of that in the first game or two post split. I can easily see us finishing 9th though which would be embarrassing given what we have spent on our squad

[Keepthefaith]

Calm the **** down lads.

[MWHIBBIES]

:faf: no danger at those sides getting points required. Stop it.

[Donegal Hibby]

Nothing to worry about here

[Nakedmanoncrack]

:faf: no danger at those sides getting points required. Stop it.

I remember ready similar comments the Butcher season. Situation must be quite similar.

[H18 SFR]

The team in 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th would all have to out point us with us having a 2, 4, 8 and 9 point head start.

Even if we lost all our games the rest would be drawing and beating each other. It’s not going to happen.

[lugz]

We've lost 2 of our last 9 league games, at this point even a couple of draws would do. Never getting caught by StJ and County.

[B.H.F.C]

I remember ready similar comments the Butcher season. Situation must be quite similar.

We’re pish, but the position isn’t that similar.

We were 7th at the split that season as well but only 4 points above the playoff spot then on 34 points. Teams below us were on 33, 31, 31 and 30. There wasn’t the same huge swing required. We’d also not won in 8 games leading up to the split and were in free fall.

[Cod Boy]

Did it even start

[Nakedmanoncrack]

We’re pish, but the position isn’t that similar.

We were 7th at the split that season as well but only 4 points above the playoff spot then on 34 points. Teams below us were on 33, 31, 31 and 30. There wasn’t the same huge swing required. We’d also not won in 8 games leading up to the split and were in free fall.

Surprised it was only 4 last time, which illustrates how ridiculous the optimism of most at that time was.

[SHODAN]

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13-14 compared to 23-24. Four points ahead then, nine points ahead now. Even if we lost our remaining five games I think we'd probably be ok.

[JimBHibees]

That would be the wet dream of most Jambo’s

Do Hibs have it in them to do the spectacular of all spectaculars and end up getting relegated?

You ****ing better believe it.

Not a chance

[Billy McKirdy]

To be honest we lose the first two games after the split and Ross County on the back of this result win the next couple then it’s judt 3 points between us and the play off spot, that’s not something I think we have the character to deal with, this scenario is not as far fetched as some believe.

[lugz]

To be honest we lose the first two games after the split and Ross County on the back of this result win the next couple then it’s judt 3 points between us and the play off spot, that’s not something I think we have the character to deal with, this scenario is not as far fetched as some believe.

Ross County have won back to back games once this season asking them to win 3 on the bounce is a lot. Think everyone just needs to breathe.

[LewysGot2]

To be honest we lose the first two games after the split and Ross County on the back of this result win the next couple then it’s judt 3 points between us and the play off spot, that’s not something I think we have the character to deal with, this scenario is not as far fetched as some believe.

And all of Motherwell, Aberdeen and St Johnstone get enough to overtake us too? We're all playing each other so all of them all getting enough points is unlikely if you're saying Ross Co win most of their games. 9 points is a big cushion at this stage. The last time we got hauled back 4 points separated 7th and 11th.

Aberdeen and St Johnstone should be worried though

[Hiber-nation]

It's absolutely nothing like the Butcher season when we were getting dominated by utter pish like Partick Thistle every week.

[Pretty Boy]

To be honest we lose the first two games after the split and Ross County on the back of this result win the next couple then it’s judt 3 points between us and the play off spot, that’s not something I think we have the character to deal with, this scenario is not as far fetched as some believe.

If St Johnstone don't win their first 2 after the split then they would occupy the play off spot rather than County and it would be minimum 6 points and maximum 8 between us and the play offs. If both of them win their first 2 games then it likely means Aberdeen or Motherwell have dropped points which is still good for us.

It's not just County we have a cushion over, all 4 need to win games to overhaul us and that means all 4 will be taking points off each other, Livi will probably factor at some point too in terms of costing teams points.

[Lago]

I think yesterday will have shattered the players.

I can’t see their hearts being properly in it for the opening couple of games, and facing clubs who are fighting for their lives we can start the bottom six off with a couples of defeats no bother at all.

This could be Butcher II
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[MWHIBBIES]

I remember ready similar comments the Butcher season. Situation must be quite similar.

Its not similar. Butcher hadn't won in months, never looked like winning. We are much better than that, despite being rubbish.

You'd also have read those comments when Maloney had us bottom 6. This place was convinced we were going down. We were nowhere near it.

Ross county getting 10 points, St Johnstone getting 9 and us losing all our matches is never, ever going to happen.

Ross County and Saints would both need to beat Aberdeen. This would put Aberdeen in more danger than us.

Then they'd play eachother. If one wins, the other is ****ed.

Both would need to beat Motherwell, or at least get something. Very unlikely.

We'd need to lose at least 4 games, and draw the other. We play Livi, who are one of the worst SPL sides ever, Aberdeen at ER who haven't scored there in about 3 years, and Motherwell at home. And we'd need to lose to both Saints and Ross County.

[Iain G]

We like the championship, we are usually quite good there and win more games than not, it will be fun. We can all pretend we are a big team.

[MWHIBBIES]

We like the championship, we are usually quite good there and win more games than not, it will be fun. We can all pretend we are a big team.

Signed better players there too.

[ScottB]

I don’t see it and regardless the Dons are just as hopeless as us, for one thing.

[Spike Mandela]

We've just had two must win games against St Johnstone and Motherwell and took 1 point out of 6.

Repeat that form in first two bottom 6 games and things may get a bit twitchy..

[DH1875]

We've just had two must win games against St Johnstone and Motherwell and took 1 point out of 6.

Repeat that form in first two bottom 6 games and things may get a bit twitchy..

Especially if one of those games are against Ross County.

[Glory Lurker]

We'll no end up in the play off spot. Aberdeen on the other hand could be interesting. If our last game is home to them and we could dump them into second bottom I might be tempted to go along, although we'd no doubt mess that up too.

[hibstag]

To be honest we lose the first two games after the split and Ross County on the back of this result win the next couple then it’s judt 3 points between us and the play off spot, that’s not something I think we have the character to deal with, this scenario is not as far fetched as some believe.

Are only county allowed to be in the playoff spot, does it move up the league with them? If county take points of teams below us and overtake them those teams still stay below us and in trouble Even losing we would match the result meaning no change

[Cabbage-Patch]

At this stage anything is possible. If the rumors are true a lot of the players have essentially downed tools because they have been told they are not in next season's plans. Montgomery has lost the dressing room and the fans. Why even take the risk of getting sucked into the play offs!? Sack him now and let David Gray take us to the end of the season. He will definitely get more out of this squad than Montgomery will until the end of the season.

[cabbageandribs1875]

At this stage anything is possible. If the rumors are true a lot of the players have essentially downed tools because they have been told they are not in next season's plans. Montgomery has lost the dressing room and the fans. Why even take the risk of getting sucked into the play offs!? Sack him now and let David Gray take us to the end of the season. He will definitely get more out of this squad than Montgomery will until the end of the season.


if some players have "downed tools" then that's surely not on NM, besides if said players have downed tools and not performing to their best then they're not doing themselves any favours for an upcoming transfer window surely :dunno:

[Cabbage-Patch]

if some players have "downed tools" then that's surely not on NM, besides if said players have downed tools and not performing to their best then they're not doing themselves any favours for an upcoming transfer window surely :dunno:

Granted but a situation that doesn't suit anyone. Perhaps the conversations about finding new clubs etc could have waited until the end of the season?

[B.H.F.C]

At this stage anything is possible. If the rumors are true a lot of the players have essentially downed tools because they have been told they are not in next season's plans. Montgomery has lost the dressing room and the fans. Why even take the risk of getting sucked into the play offs!? Sack him now and let David Gray take us to the end of the season. He will definitely get more out of this squad than Montgomery will until the end of the season.

They’ve no downed tools. They’re just no very good and are making the same mistakes they’ve been making all season.

[He's here!]

They’ve no downed tools. They’re just no very good and are making the same mistakes they’ve been making all season.

Yep. Monty remains popular with the players. There's no lack of effort.

[snedzuk]

The fact there is a 'can we get drawn into the play offs' thread on game day 33 should be majorly ringing alarm bells.

[Donegal Hibby]

The fact there is a 'can we get drawn into the play offs' thread on game day 33 should be majorly ringing alarm bells.

I honestly don't think there's any alarm bells ringing whatsoever about it because it won't happen.

[Hibbyradge]

I think yesterday will have shattered the players.

I can’t see their hearts being properly in it for the opening couple of games, and facing clubs who are fighting for their lives we can start the bottom six off with a couples of defeats no bother at all.

This could be Butcher II

Hibs are 1000/1 to finish bottom 2 with Skybet. Fill your boots.

[Victor]

Are only county allowed to be in the playoff spot, does it move up the league with them? If county take points of teams below us and overtake them those teams still stay below us and in trouble Even losing we would match the result meaning no change

I like that idea. One team is allocated the playoff spot regardless of how well they do. Personally I would be happy if the bottom two are relegated they don’t bring anything to the SPFL with regard to support and facilities.

[Davy Mac]

We'll no end up in the play off spot. Aberdeen on the other hand could be interesting. If our last game is home to them and we could dump them into second bottom I might be tempted to go along, although we'd no doubt mess that up too.

We'll lose a goal in 90+5 mins by either a wonder strike with their only shot on target, penalty or the obligatory mistake.

Oh, and our possesion will be 80% :-)

[flash]

At this stage anything is possible. If the rumors are true a lot of the players have essentially downed tools because they have been told they are not in next season's plans. Montgomery has lost the dressing room and the fans. Why even take the risk of getting sucked into the play offs!? Sack him now and let David Gray take us to the end of the season. He will definitely get more out of this squad than Montgomery will until the end of the season.

Who looked like they had "downed tools" yesterday?

[Cabbage-Patch]

Hibs are 1000/1 to finish bottom 2 with Skybet. Fill your boots.

Christ, that's worth a fiver at least!

[Cabbage-Patch]

Who looked like they had "downed tools" yesterday?

Newell for one, although he often goes missing in the big games.

[flash]

Newell for one, although he often goes missing in the big games.

Totally disagree. He didn't play great but there was no lack of effort.

[Bishop Hibee]

We score goals. That’ll see us 6th or 7th.

[overdrive]

Can I see us not picking up a win between now and the end of the season? Absolutely I can.

Can I see us not picking up a point between now and the end of the season? Possibly.

Can I see all the other teams get the “perfect storm” set of results that would put us second bottom? Very unlikely. We are Hibs, though so won’t say “never”.

[IberianHibernian]

At this stage anything is possible. If the rumors are true a lot of the players have essentially downed tools because they have been told they are not in next season's plans. Montgomery has lost the dressing room and the fans. Why even take the risk of getting sucked into the play offs!? Sack him now and let David Gray take us to the end of the season. He will definitely get more out of this squad than Montgomery will until the end of the season.Didn`t see any signs at all yesterday that the players have downed tools . We didn`t get the result we wanted or deserved but it certainly wasn`t for lack of effort . I thought all the players put in a great deal of effort , unfortunately results earlier in the season meant it wasn`t enough . A year ago we needed a win in Perth , played terribly and without motivation but a draw proved enough . That`s football .

[Donegal Hibby]

Christ, that's worth a fiver at least!

I suppose its like doing the lottery . There's always a million to one chance it might happen ! .

[Carheenlea]

I suppose its like doing the lottery . There's always a million to one chance it might happen ! .

A thousand to one chance is more likely mind you!

[Cabbage-Patch]

Totally disagree. He didn't play great but there was no lack of effort.

He's genuinely the worst Hibs Captain I can remember. He's flattered to deceive for years. Heart of a mouse and hope he finally moves on in the summer. We deserve a captain who puts it all on the line for the shirt every game. That's not Newell.

[Donegal Hibby]

A thousand to one chance is more likely mind you!

It would be as well to be a million to one as it's never going to happen anyhow . Anyone putting a fiver on it would be better buying a lottery ticket imo .

[marinello59]

He's genuinely the worst Hibs Captain I can remember. He's flattered to deceive for years. Heart of a mouse and hope he finally moves on in the summer. We deserve a captain who puts it all on the line for the shirt every game. That's not Newell.

Heart of a mouse? The personal insults being thrown at our players now is verging on the ridiculous. Even when playing badly he has never hidden.

[flash]

He's genuinely the worst Hibs Captain I can remember. He's flattered to deceive for years. Heart of a mouse and hope he finally moves on in the summer. We deserve a captain who puts it all on the line for the shirt every game. That's not Newell.

You not a fan of his then?

[Cabbage-Patch]

You not a fan of his then?

I think that's safe to say 😂 has the odd good game against the likes of Livingston, Killie etc but anytime a big game comes around he's anonymous. He has improved from the player we initially signed under Heckingbottom but he's not good enough to be kept on next season IMO and certainly not Captain material

[Victor]

At this stage anything is possible. If the rumors are true a lot of the players have essentially downed tools because they have been told they are not in next season's plans. Montgomery has lost the dressing room and the fans. Why even take the risk of getting sucked into the play offs!? Sack him now and let David Gray take us to the end of the season. He will definitely get more out of this squad than Montgomery will until the end of the season.

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[ScottB]

Ok, so, absolute worst case…

5 games left.

County win all 5
St Johnstone win 4
Aberdeen win 3
Motherwell win 2
Livi win 1
We lose every game

Ross County - 45
Aberdeen - 44
Motherwell - 43
St Johnstone - 43
Hibs - 39
Livi - 21

However, that’d be better runs than pretty much all of them will have managed all year, so I don’t see it. Worst case for us will probably be about 4 points, which will definitely keep us away from the play off spot.

[Stuart93]

We score goals. That’ll see us 6th or 7th.

We concede more than we score though

[Forza Fred]

At this stage anything is possible. If the rumors are true a lot of the players have essentially downed tools because they have been told they are not in next season's plans. Montgomery has lost the dressing room and the fans. Why even take the risk of getting sucked into the play offs!? Sack him now and let David Gray take us to the end of the season. He will definitely get more out of this squad than Montgomery will until the end of the season.

Rumour?

You mean the rumour you are attempting to start.

Every club in the country have players who are told they are not in next season’s plans around this time of year.

Guess we can look forward to lots and lots of 0-0 draws in the results then.

[Cabbage-Patch]

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I'm merely mirroring a discussion that was started in another thread on here after the St Johnstone game. Solid contribution though 😀👏

[JimBHibees]

We score goals. That’ll see us 6th or 7th.

Certainly not 6th :greengrin