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The Modfather
14-04-2024, 12:53 PM
We’re two or three seasons past needing a Stubbs-esque clearout/rebuild. Fortunately a number of players are out of contract in the summer. Obviously it’s something that will take a number of windows but what’s everyone’s thoughts on the squad and next season? For me:

New GK

Obita
New CB
New CB
Cadden

NMW
Amos/new CM depending on fitness
New AM

Maolida/new LW
New CF
New RW

EXPENDABLE/BACK UPS
Boyle
Newell
Youan (would cash in for the rebuild)
Miller
Rocky
ALF
Vente (probably try and get our money back)
Marshall (another year if a low wage)
Campbell (cash in for rebuild if we can get a fee)
Triantis (if cheap and as a DM)

ACTIVELY TRY AND MOVE ON
Mclelland
Tait
Henderson
Kenneh
Mckirdy
Mackay
Hanlon
Stevenson
Harbottle
JDH
Levitt
Wollacot
Tavares
Delfierre
Don’t keep any of the loans (Emiliano, Mayenda, Fish)

YOUNGSTERS - make decisions on:
Megwa
Boruc
Johnson

MWHIBBIES
14-04-2024, 12:57 PM
There is no argument to keep Marshall. Guy is poor and 1000 years old. Probably time to move Campbell on too. Mostly agree otherwise.

flash
14-04-2024, 12:58 PM
There is no argument to keep Marshall. Guy is poor and 1000 years old. Probably time to move Campbell on too. Mostly agree otherwise.

Marshall should retire before it gets really uncomfortable to watch.

Exuberance1875
14-04-2024, 01:01 PM
I’d be cashing in on almost every player possible.

Cadden would be on my to go list too, we concede far too many goals when he plays (not all directly his fault but can’t be a coincidence) feel he never takes charge defensively and rarely gets the better of his man.

Genuinely Moriah-Welsh is the only permanent player I like.

MarkGilchimp
14-04-2024, 01:28 PM
Its unrealistic to think we can afford a clear out on this scale. There are good or potentially good players in that list. People don't seem to talk about the team having a spine these days do they? Remember when we had a spine of Sauzee, Latepy and Mixu....other mediocre players around them were suddenly good players. Key as others have said is a commanding leader at the back, a dynamo in midfield and a reliable goal scorer. Oh and perhaps a manager who know what he's doing.

Del Boy
14-04-2024, 01:50 PM
I’d get rid of Cadden, he’s pish

Wilson
14-04-2024, 01:52 PM
Marshall should retire before it gets really uncomfortable to watch.

Last season?

Donegal Hibby
14-04-2024, 01:57 PM
There is no argument to keep Marshall. Guy is poor and 1000 years old. Probably time to move Campbell on too. Mostly agree otherwise.

Quite a few times this year we had a really weak bench and for that reason I'd keep Marshall as a backup keeper , Campbell is also a useful squad player to have as well with his workrate, important goals and able to play a few positions. He's also 23 so has time to improve as well .

Newell would be a decent back up as well though at 31 his best years are probably behind him so I wouldn't be to pushed if we moved him on as he's probably one of our higher earners at the club too.

MWHIBBIES
14-04-2024, 02:09 PM
Quite a few times this year we had a really weak bench and for that reason I'd keep Marshall as a backup keeper , Campbell is also a useful squad player to have as well with his workrate, important goals and able to play a few positions. He's also 23 so has time to improve as well .

Newell would be a decent back up as well though at 31 his best years are probably behind him so I wouldn't be to pushed if we moved him on as he's probably one of our higher earners at the club too.

Campbell should move on. If we are aiming for better midfielders than Newell, Campbell wont get a sniff.

Marshall is murder. Sign 2 goalies and move him on.

SHODAN
14-04-2024, 02:11 PM
The following players are out of contract; would keep the ones in bold if we can:
Marshall
Hanlon
Fish
Mayenda
Stevenson
Maolida
Le Fondre
Marcondes
Triantis

This leaves us with a squad of (bold would definitely keep, italics would actively try to move):
Miller
Levitt
Youan
Doyle-Hayes
Vente
Boyle
Newell
Cadden
Wollacott
Amos
Henderson
Obita
McKirdy
Kenneh
Boruc
Harbottle
MacKay
Delferriere
Moriah-Welsh
Johnson
Campbell
Bushiri
McClelland
Molotnikov
MacIntyre
O'Connor
McAllister
Whittaker
Megwa
Aiken
Landers
Tait

Donegal Hibby
14-04-2024, 02:33 PM
Campbell should move on. If we are aiming for better midfielders than Newell, Campbell wont get a sniff.

Marshall is murder. Sign 2 goalies and move him on.

I don't know what our transfer budget will be in the summer though I doubt it will be a bottomless pit of money and the more we clearout the more we will need to spend . The likes of Marshall could be a decent backup keeper imo .

Both Campbell and Newell would be decent squad players though Joe is probably one of our higher earners and Campbells young enough to improve yet with another year or two at us to make us a decent fee in the future.

Certainly hope we find a good quality midfielder with leadership qualities who's consistent to take over from Newell which won't be cheap . Improving the first team while keeping a fairly decent squad is what I think we need to do .

Is It On....
14-04-2024, 02:47 PM
We need a manager to get MORE out of the current squad. Until we replace Montgomery everything else is a secondary issue

MWHIBBIES
14-04-2024, 02:49 PM
I don't know what our transfer budget will be in the summer though I doubt it will be a bottomless pit of money and the more we clearout the more we will need to spend . The likes of Marshall could be a decent backup keeper imo .

Both Campbell and Newell would be decent squad players though Joe is probably one of our higher earners and Campbells young enough to improve yet with another year or two at us to make us a decent fee in the future.

Certainly hope we find a good quality midfielder with leadership qualities who's consistent to take over from Newell which won't be cheap . Improving the first team while keeping a fairly decent squad is what I think we need to do .

Don't think Joe will be one of our higher earners, not anymore. Right now Youan, Boyle, Marcondes, Maolida, Vente and Alf are probably on more. Don't think any of them, bar Maolida obviously, are worth it based on this season.

Campbell aint it. I know you like him, but he aint it.

The Sundance Kid
14-04-2024, 02:59 PM
Hibs' contractual situation going into the summer window:


Contracted to 2027
Josh Campbell


Contracted to 2026
Nathan Moriah Welsh (Hibs have option to extend contract to 2027)
Dylan Levitt
Elie Youan
Dylan Vente
Jojo Wollacott
Jordan Obita
Jair Tavares
Rory Whittaker
Josh Landers
Riley Harbottle
Rudi Molotnikov
Oscar MacIntyre
Allan Delferriere (MFK Vyskov have option to buy him at end of this season)


Contracted to end of next season
Lewis Miller (Hibs have option to extend contract to 2026)
Martin Boyle (Hibs have option to extend contract to 2026)
Luke Amos (Hibs have option to extend contract to 2026)
Kyle McClelland (Hibs have option to extend contract to 2026)
Jake Doyle Hayes
Joe Newell
Chris Cadden
Rocky Bushiri
Jacob MacIntyre
Harry McKirdy
Nohan Kenneh
Max Boruc
Dylan Tait
Josh O'Connor
Reuben McAllister
Jacob Blaney
Kanayo Megwa
Murray Aiken
Ewan Henderson (Oostende have option to buy him at end of this season)
Daniel MacKay (Livingston have option to buy him at end of this season)


Contracted to end of this season
David Marshall
Paul Hanlon
Lewis Stevenson
Adam Le Fondre
Robbie Hamilton


Loans to end of the season
Emiliano Marcondes (Bournemouth contract runs out at end of the season also)
Will Fish (Manchester United contract runs to end of next season)
Myziane Maolida (Hertha Berlin contract runs to end of next season)
Nectar Triantis (Sunderland contract runs to 2027)
Eliezer Mayenda (Sunderland contract runs to 2028)

Donegal Hibby
14-04-2024, 03:00 PM
Don't think Joe will be one of our higher earners, not anymore. Right now Youan, Boyle, Marcondes, Maolida, Vente and Alf are probably on more. Don't think any of them, bar Maolida obviously, are worth it based on this season.

Campbell aint it. I know you like him, but he aint it.

Yeah I do like Campbell , young , works hard , scores goals , plays a few positions and a good Hibby to boot . Decent squad player to have . As I said we should be concentrating on improving the first team while keeping a fairly good squad as over the last two years we've struggled at times with not having options.

ShetlandHibby
15-04-2024, 05:24 PM
Scary thing is we have a squad of about 30 of which you’d keep maybe 4 or 5 of them.

Chorley Hibee
15-04-2024, 05:32 PM
Scary thing is we have a squad of about 30 of which you’d keep maybe 4 or 5 of them.

I don't know what's more terrifying.

How crap that squad is?

The size of the rebuild?

Entrusting Montgomery with the job of rebuilding?

It's grim.

WhileTheChief..
15-04-2024, 06:07 PM
Scary thing is we have a squad of about 30 of which you’d keep maybe 4 or 5 of them.

But on the plus side we can look forward to a brand new team hopefully!!

Whether with NM or not, if we replace most of the first team we should have a better chance of improved results.

I'm kinda basing this on us having learnt our lessons from the last couple of summers, and that we sign players for the here and now to play from the get go.

Really hoping we don't sign any more players for potential or that might come good. Get proper, proven players in this time.

andrew70
15-04-2024, 06:17 PM
Keep

Levitt
Youan
Vente
Obita
NMW
Whittaker
Landers
Molotnikov
Oscar Mac
Jacob Mac
Miller
Boyle
Amos
Doyle-Hayes
McAllister
Blaney
Aiken
ALF
Myziane (no chance unfortunately)

Then rebuild from here.

easty
15-04-2024, 06:31 PM
Yeah I do like Campbell , young , works hard , scores goals , plays a few positions and a good Hibby to boot . Decent squad player to have . As I said we should be concentrating on improving the first team while keeping a fairly good squad as over the last two years we've struggled at times with not having options.

He’s 23. It’s no that young.

I dinnae expect him to be moved on, but if he’s getting regular football next season then it’s going to be a tough watch and a tough season.

worcesterhibby
15-04-2024, 06:34 PM
A lot of that list aren't really first team players, so I would keep hold of the young guys making their way.

I think at least Sixteen first team players won't be here next season:

My guess is this lot will be gone:

Marshall
Hanlon
Stevenson
Le Fondre
McKirdy
Marcondes
Fish
Triantis
Mayenda
Tavares
Harbottle
Delfierre
Henderson
Mackay
Kenneh
Tait

and probably Myziane Maolida as well (unfortunatley)

That gives us a core 1st team of:

Nathan Moriah Welsh
Dylan Levitt
Elie Youan
Dylan Vente
Martin Boyle
Joe Newell
Chris Cadden
Jojo Wollacott
Jordan Obita
Lewis Miller
Luke Amos
Jake Doyle Hayes
Rocky Bushiri

Plus spaces for at least 10-12 incoming + the kids

matty_f
15-04-2024, 06:54 PM
We’re two or three seasons past needing a Stubbs-esque clearout/rebuild. Fortunately a number of players are out of contract in the summer. Obviously it’s something that will take a number of windows but what’s everyone’s thoughts on the squad and next season? For me:

New GK

Obita
New CB
New CB
Cadden

NMW
Amos/new CM depending on fitness
New AM

Maolida/new LW
New CF
New RW

EXPENDABLE/BACK UPS
Boyle
Newell
Youan (would cash in for the rebuild)
Miller
Rocky
ALF
Vente (probably try and get our money back)
Marshall (another year if a low wage)
Campbell (cash in for rebuild if we can get a fee)
Triantis (if cheap and as a DM)

ACTIVELY TRY AND MOVE ON
Mclelland
Tait
Henderson
Kenneh
Mckirdy
Mackay
Hanlon
Stevenson
Harbottle
JDH
Levitt
Wollacot
Tavares
Delfierre
Don’t keep any of the loans (Emiliano, Mayenda, Fish)

YOUNGSTERS - make decisions on:
Megwa
Boruc
Johnson

I think the club have to bite the bullet and shift as many of these players as they can, sell to whoever will buy the ones we don't want to keep and if we can't sell them, try to loan them out or just cut our losses and pay them off.

It'll not be cheap, but we have owners and investors with deep pockets so if they're serious about wanting a team that can challenge, spend the money and fix the mistakes that have been made. I've not got a load of sympathy for super-rich folk having to pony up in these circumstances.

It's not the fans that have got us in this position, if folk want to own a successful football club then it's on them to do it.

Basildon Hibs
15-04-2024, 07:10 PM
We need a manager to get MORE out of the current squad. Until we replace Montgomery everything else is a secondary issue

👍👍

CapitalGreen
15-04-2024, 07:26 PM
Yeah I do like Campbell , young , works hard , scores goals , plays a few positions and a good Hibby to boot . Decent squad player to have . As I said we should be concentrating on improving the first team while keeping a fairly good squad as over the last two years we've struggled at times with not having options.

Campbell came on against Motherwell on Saturday and attempted 8 passes - of those 8 attempted passes only one found a teammate. In the final 15 minutes of our tie to secure top 6 he gifted Motherwell possession 7 times!

He has some strengths but he is an abysmal passer which will hold him back from being the standard required for where we aspire to be.

Paulie Walnuts
15-04-2024, 08:24 PM
Campbell came on against Motherwell on Saturday and attempted 8 passes - of those 8 attempted passes only one found a teammate. In the final 15 minutes of our tie to secure top 6 he gifted Motherwell possession 7 times!

He has some strengths but he is an abysmal passer which will hold him back from being the standard required for where we aspire to be.

That’s a horrific stat.

Mainstandman
15-04-2024, 08:48 PM
Campbell came on against Motherwell on Saturday and attempted 8 passes - of those 8 attempted passes only one found a teammate. In the final 15 minutes of our tie to secure top 6 he gifted Motherwell possession 7 times!

He has some strengths but he is an abysmal passer which will hold him back from being the standard required for where we aspire to be.

I think a couple of managers have said he’s better without the ball!! So basically pressing then bursting into the box to score and that’s it.

GreenCastle
15-04-2024, 08:55 PM
So it’s clear to say our B / Team Development team plan was a total waste of money as many predicted?

Oddly some fans have said when we won 5-1 in the testimonial recently it was some of the best football we have played all season.

JimBHibees
15-04-2024, 09:05 PM
I’d get rid of Cadden, he’s pish

Really been very good since he came back

Donegal Hibby
15-04-2024, 09:06 PM
Campbell came on against Motherwell on Saturday and attempted 8 passes - of those 8 attempted passes only one found a teammate. In the final 15 minutes of our tie to secure top 6 he gifted Motherwell possession 7 times!

He has some strengths but he is an abysmal passer which will hold him back from being the standard required for where we aspire to be.

As to Campbell coming on against Motherwell , he's just back from a lengthy injury btw . I do agree that his passing is a part of his game that he needs to work on though at 23 there's still time for him to improve on that aspect of his game . I don't think I actually said it was one of his strengths .

Which are his workrate , versatility and the knack of getting into good goalscoring positions . He's also contributed by scoring important goals over the last two seasons . Being a hibby I always get the feeling he'd go through a brick wall for the team too which is something we don't see with some other players .

Maybe Monty will want to move him on , who knows . Though given a choice of taking someone off the bench that will put themselves about and might chip in with a goal , I'd have Campbell over Levitt everyday of the week . But that's just my opinion.

https://youtu.be/lPa6QllAy7A?si=eRQ8x6oDElIjUUYZ

Hiber-nation
15-04-2024, 09:19 PM
As to Campbell coming on against Motherwell , he's just back from a lengthy injury btw . I do agree that his passing is a part of his game that he needs to work on though at 23 there's still time for him to improve on that aspect of his game . I don't think I actually said it was one of his strengths .

Which are his workrate , versatility and the knack of getting into good goalscoring positions . He's also contributed by scoring important goals over the last two seasons . Being a hibby I always get the feeling he'd go through a brick wall for the team too which is something we don't see with some other players .

Maybe Monty will want to move him on , who knows . Though given a choice of taking someone off the bench that will put themselves about and might chip in with a goal , I'd have Campbell over Levitt everyday of the week . But that's just my opinion.

https://youtu.be/lPa6QllAy7A?si=eRQ8x6oDElIjUUYZ

He was constantly giving the ball away before he got injured. He can get into great positions and finish well but he just doesn't have the passing ability or pace to play at the level we are aspiring to. You just can't carry someone who is giving up possession as much. I think he would do well in the English lower leagues where you see more of a long ball game.

Donegal Hibby
15-04-2024, 09:23 PM
He was constantly giving the ball away before he got injured. He can get into great positions and finish well but he just doesn't have the passing ability or pace to play at the level we are aspiring to. You just can't carry someone who is giving up possession as much. I think he would do well in the English lower leagues where you see more of a long ball game.

Time will tell what players Monty will want to move on ( if still our manager🤞)though he still offers more to the team than Levitt imo 👍

neil7908
16-04-2024, 01:24 AM
The following players are out of contract; would keep the ones in bold if we can:
Marshall
Hanlon
Fish
Mayenda
Stevenson
Maolida
Le Fondre
Marcondes
Triantis

This leaves us with a squad of (bold would definitely keep, italics would actively try to move):
Miller
Levitt
Youan
Doyle-Hayes
Vente
Boyle
Newell
Cadden
Wollacott
Amos
Henderson
Obita
McKirdy
Kenneh
Boruc
Harbottle
MacKay
Delferriere
Moriah-Welsh
Johnson
Campbell
Bushiri
McClelland
Molotnikov
MacIntyre
O'Connor
McAllister
Whittaker
Megwa
Aiken
Landers
Tait

I would have said keep Marcondes a month or so ago. But he's put in a string of average to poor performances.

Given his likely salary I'm not sure he's done enough to warrant being kept on.

Viva_Palmeiras
16-04-2024, 07:17 AM
Need to draw a line in the sand on this - this is exactly why we need continuity from a DoF type person.

WestStandWillie
16-04-2024, 07:23 AM
All the players, with the exception of Megwa, out on loan at present should be moved on.

None of them exactly setting the heather on fire are they! Mackay and Tait are basically travelling salesmen.

Had hopes for Kenneh but he seems to have fizzled out at Shrewsbury.

When you look at the OOC players and what's left, it does make you think it would be easier to offload the manager. But then the new man is stuck with them. :rolleyes:

flash
16-04-2024, 08:07 AM
What i have difficulty understanding is we expect a new manager to get much more out of the current squad whilst wanting the whole squad emptied at the same time.

007 Mickey Weir
16-04-2024, 07:15 PM
With the season almost over. We still need a couple of results to 100% be certain we avoid a play off nightmare.

So who do we give game time to prove themselves before end of season clear out.

Walcott? Needs game time. Marshall will no doubt be away.

Stevenson needs at least 2 appearances to make the 600 legend status and deserves that. Both Hanlon and him need to play in last home game as they will be away. Raith maybe?

Boyle needs rested. McIntyre given game time to see if he can handle first time?

Vente needs eased back in as we will need him next season. So maybe give ALF more game time and decide if he is worth keeping as impact player?

Who of loans worth keeping if any?

Can we move on most of players out on loan? Who of them would we keep?

Lots of questions before end of season. But I hope to see a fresh defence and a new striker at pre season!

Percy Vere
16-04-2024, 07:27 PM
I’d get rid of Cadden, he’s pish

Comments like this are absolutely ridiculous. He's a human who plays for the club you claim to be a supporter of. He's a good solid professional who gives 100% shame can't say the same for you.

WeeRussell
16-04-2024, 07:36 PM
Comments like this are absolutely ridiculous. He's a human who plays for the club you claim to be a supporter of. He's a good solid professional who gives 100% shame can't say the same for you.

How do you know Del Boy isn’t a solid professional that gives 100%? 😁

Tyler Durden
16-04-2024, 07:56 PM
Hopefully the club have already done some analysis planning on paying out to help shift the contracted undesirables.

The likes of Harbottle, JDH, McKirdy, Jair, Henderson, Delf, Kenneh, Wollacott, McClelland

If we can get them away for free then brilliant but likely they’ll need to be offered some kind of settlement and help to find a new club.

Any of them coming back into the squad is gonna set us up for failure.

superfurryhibby
17-04-2024, 06:59 AM
The playing squad is a pretty damning indictment of our football strategy these past few years. What a ****ing mess.

Donegal Hibby
18-04-2024, 03:22 PM
I've found it abit confusing that some are wanting players like Cadden , Campbell and Youan away because they're not good enough yet when hertz signed Dhanda, Spittal and Penrice they were getting classed as good signings!

cabbageandribs1875
18-04-2024, 04:13 PM
we WILL beat st johnstone :agree:

MWHIBBIES
18-04-2024, 04:44 PM
I've found it abit confusing that some are wanting players like Cadden , Campbell and Youan away because they're not good enough yet when hertz signed Dhanda, Spittal and Penrice they were getting classed as good signings!

Campbell just isn't good enough for us I don't think. Working hard isn't enough.

Donegal Hibby
18-04-2024, 04:48 PM
Campbell just isn't good enough for us I don't think. Working hard isn't enough.

Is Dhanda any better ? . Is Cadden pish and Penrice good ? , would you swap Youan for Spittal too ? .

CapitalGreen
18-04-2024, 04:48 PM
Is Dhanda any better ? .

He’s better than Campbell yes.

EdinMike
18-04-2024, 04:52 PM
I think Stevenson not making 600 would be an utter shame. Even if they are only sub appearances.

Leitherhibs
18-04-2024, 04:55 PM
I've found it abit confusing that some are wanting players like Cadden , Campbell and Youan away because they're not good enough yet when hertz signed Dhanda, Spittal and Penrice they were getting classed as good signings!

Cadden is fine, he'd probably start for every team outside Rangers and Celtic, just fans taking shots whilst emotional.

The criticism Youan gets is moronic, and mostly from people who don't understand that you need players like him to give you an x factor in a league in which 80% of our opponents sit in against us.

The Modfather
18-04-2024, 04:56 PM
I've found it abit confusing that some are wanting players like Cadden , Campbell and Youan away because they're not good enough yet when hertz signed Dhanda, Spittal and Penrice they were getting classed as good signings!

Dhanda, Penrice & Spital are good additions as squad players, signed from a position of strength. We have about 30 players on the books, the majority of who range from good squad players to deadwood. Very few players actually good enough for the first 11 and worth building the team around.

MWHIBBIES
18-04-2024, 04:57 PM
Is Dhanda any better ? . Is Cadden pish and Penrice good ? , would you swap Youan for Spittal too ? .

I'm speaking specifically about Campbell.

Cadden and Youan have something to offer here still IMO.

Paid no attention to Penrice or Dhanda. Spittal is a decent player, though.

Donegal Hibby
18-04-2024, 05:00 PM
Cadden is fine, he'd probably start for every team outside Rangers and Celtic, just fans taking shots whilst emotional.

The criticism Youan gets is moronic, and mostly from people who don't understand that you need players like him to give you an x factor in a league in which 80% of our opponents sit in against us.

I agree with this . Find the criticism some of our players get OTT at times .

MWHIBBIES
18-04-2024, 05:00 PM
Cadden is fine, he'd probably start for every team outside Rangers and Celtic, just fans taking shots whilst emotional.

The criticism Youan gets is moronic, and mostly from people who don't understand that you need players like him to give you an x factor in a league in which 80% of our opponents sit in against us.

Its a bit of a myth 80% of our opponents sit in. Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, Aberdeen and St Mirren haven't sat in at all against us this season (Maybe Aberdeen in the semi)

Youan deserves stick for his decision making and his first touch/hold up play. Its scary how often he loses the ball, or fails to control it. But he does many good things and offers a threat.

Leitherhibs
18-04-2024, 05:06 PM
Its a bit of a myth 80% of our opponents sit in. Celtic, Rangers, Hearts, Aberdeen and St Mirren haven't sat in at all against us this season (Maybe Aberdeen in the semi)

Youan deserves stick for his decision making and his first touch/hold up play. Its scary how often he loses the ball, or fails to control it. But he does many good things and offers a threat.

Aberdeen have sat in every game against us this season with the exception of the 2-2 draw, in which they were under a fair bit of pressure to come out and show something. St Mirren have sat in every time they've played us and their manager is quoted as saying they don't want possession in games against us.

Youan's first touch is exceptional, sometimes what he does afterwards is less so, odd thing to pick out.

Donegal Hibby
18-04-2024, 05:14 PM
I'm speaking specifically about Campbell.

Cadden and Youan have something to offer here still IMO.

Paid no attention to Penrice or Dhanda. Spittal is a decent player, though.

I have watched attacking midfielder Dhanda quite abit and can't say he's particularly stood out though after he signed for hertz he's been described as a good signing yet Campbell who has more goals than him isn't . each to our own opinions though I'd rather have Campbell .

You and I might think both Youan and Cadden have something to offer though the two have had criticism in the Past/lately while Spittal and Penrice have been seen as good signings .

Again I'd rather the two of them or Campbell for any of Penrice , Dhanda or Spittal . Certainly don't see any of them as a upgrade on what we have tbh .

superfurryhibby
18-04-2024, 06:10 PM
Josh Campbell is contracted until the end of 26-27 season and whatever we think of his merits, he probably the least of our worries player wise. He does offer goals, energy and a wee bit versatility. I have to say, he's not the greatest on the ball at times, but he will contribute.

The squad is a bloated mess. So many of the failed signing strategy still here and that is taking it's toll on the football side of things, limiting our signings etc. How do we prune it, because much of the long term project failures will be here for a while (WTF extended Deferriere's contract, totally baffling).

Donegal Hibby
18-04-2024, 06:24 PM
Dhanda, Penrice & Spital are good additions as squad players, signed from a position of strength. We have about 30 players on the books, the majority of who range from good squad players to deadwood. Very few players actually good enough for the first 11 and worth building the team around.

We have players like your Dhanda , Penrice and Spittal at the club already which is why I mentioned 3 of our players who imo are equally as good if not better than them .

We do need a bit of a clear out on certain players like Henderson, Mackay, Taits , Levitt , Jair , Kenneh , McClelland etc though wither we will absolutely gut the squad totally I'm not so sure it would be a good thing entirely to do .

I'm hoping we add a Goalkeeper and to our attack as well as the midfield and defence which are the two priority area's. We need quite a few new first team players in the summer with maybe abit of grit /steel , leadership attributes which I think we have been badly lacking in .

If we do that I'm not against keeping the likes of Newell , Rocky , Alf and Campbell as squad players . Lots of work to do this summer though.

SON OF PADDY
18-04-2024, 06:42 PM
Really been very good since he came back

I'd definitely keep Chris Cadden, he's a good hard working professional.

Fuzzywuzzy
20-04-2024, 11:14 AM
I see Jason kerr is out of contract in the summer. Not sure if he signed a precontract with anyone though.

McGruber
20-04-2024, 01:00 PM
The following players are out of contract; would keep the ones in bold if we can:
Marshall
Hanlon
Fish
Mayenda
Stevenson
Maolida
Le Fondre
Marcondes
Triantis

This leaves us with a squad of (bold would definitely keep, italics would actively try to move):
Miller
Levitt
Youan
Doyle-Hayes
Vente
Boyle
Newell
Cadden
Wollacott
Amos
Henderson
Obita
McKirdy
Kenneh
Boruc
Harbottle
MacKay
Delferriere
Moriah-Welsh
Johnson
Campbell
Bushiri
McClelland
Molotnikov
MacIntyre
O'Connor
McAllister
Whittaker
Megwa
Aiken
Landers
Tait

Just curious - how are you differentiating between the younger players? Do you watch their games? Had high hopes for McCallister

The Modfather
19-05-2024, 05:11 PM
Think I’ll be refreshing this thread daily before any new manager threads.

More of the same today despite how much players like Boyle, Vente, Hanlon, Newell etc are talked up.

greenlex
19-05-2024, 05:12 PM
I'd definitely keep Chris Cadden, he's a good hard working professional.
I didn’t know he had a twin brother.

judas
19-05-2024, 07:06 PM
We’re two or three seasons past needing a Stubbs-esque clearout/rebuild. Fortunately a number of players are out of contract in the summer. Obviously it’s something that will take a number of windows but what’s everyone’s thoughts on the squad and next season? For me:

New GK

Obita
New CB
New CB
Cadden

NMW
Amos/new CM depending on fitness
New AM

Maolida/new LW
New CF
New RW

EXPENDABLE/BACK UPS
Boyle
Newell
Youan (would cash in for the rebuild)
Miller
Rocky
ALF
Vente (probably try and get our money back)
Marshall (another year if a low wage)
Campbell (cash in for rebuild if we can get a fee)
Triantis (if cheap and as a DM)

ACTIVELY TRY AND MOVE ON
Mclelland
Tait
Henderson
Kenneh
Mckirdy
Mackay
Hanlon
Stevenson
Harbottle
JDH
Levitt
Wollacot
Tavares
Delfierre
Don’t keep any of the loans (Emiliano, Mayenda, Fish)

YOUNGSTERS - make decisions on:
Megwa
Boruc
Johnson

IF Hibs really do want to shape a team that would compete then I agree with almost every line of your post.

AlbertK86
19-05-2024, 09:05 PM
3-5-2

New keeper

3 New CHs

Cadden
3 new CM ( 2 if Amos can get fully fit and up to speed)
Obita

Myzaine (hopefully)
Youan

Subs

Johnston
Megwa
NMW
Molotnikov
Jacob McIntyre

Rest of current first team squad can bolt


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PHeffernan
19-05-2024, 09:23 PM
3-5-2

New keeper

3 New CHs

Cadden
3 new CM ( 2 if Amos can get fully fit and up to speed)
Obita

Myzaine (hopefully)
Youan

Subs

Johnston
Megwa
NMW
Molotnikov
Jacob McIntyre

Rest of current first team squad can bolt


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB8nIGKbpJY

CapitalGreen
19-05-2024, 09:24 PM
3-5-2

New keeper

3 New CHs

Cadden
3 new CM ( 2 if Amos can get fully fit and up to speed)
Obita

Myzaine (hopefully)
Youan

Subs

Johnston
Megwa
NMW
Molotnikov
Jacob McIntyre

Rest of current first team squad can bolt


How on earth has Cadden sneaked into your keep list, he’s one of the worst of the lot.

SON OF PADDY
19-05-2024, 11:03 PM
I didn’t know he had a twin brother.


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Leitherhibs
20-05-2024, 07:33 AM
How on earth has Cadden sneaked into your keep list, he’s one of the worst of the lot.

Been good since he's come back, folk point to him being limited, but he essentially has all the tools to be a decent RB/RWB at this level, he'd be a starter for any club outside Celtic/Rangers. Devlin and Atkinson for Aberdeen and Hearts aren't any better. Cadden was POTY 2 seasons ago.

Viva_Palmeiras
20-05-2024, 07:41 AM
Just goes to show what happens when you’re asleep at the wheel.

How did we fall so ar from building the team that won the Scottish Cup to this mess?

DIXIHIBS
20-05-2024, 07:47 AM
The following players are out of contract; would keep the ones in bold if we can:
Marshall
Hanlon
Fish
Mayenda
Stevenson
Maolida
Le Fondre
Marcondes
Triantis

This leaves us with a squad of (bold would definitely keep, italics would actively try to move):
Miller
Levitt
Youan
Doyle-Hayes
Vente
Boyle
Newell
Cadden
Wollacott
Amos
Henderson
Obita
McKirdy
Kenneh
Boruc
Harbottle
MacKay
Delferriere
Moriah-Welsh
Johnson
Campbell
Bushiri
McClelland
Molotnikov
MacIntyre
O'Connor
McAllister
Whittaker
Megwa
Aiken
Landers
Tait

While I agree with some, disagree with others, I'll be amazed if we can move on about 90% of the squad. It will take at least 2/3 transfer windows to shift that many players.

Dmas
20-05-2024, 08:01 AM
While I agree with some, disagree with others, I'll be amazed if we can move on about 90% of the squad. It will take at least 2/3 transfer windows to shift that many players.

totally agree, we're going to need to hope a new manager can get a tune out some that are here now for a while yet

AlbertK86
20-05-2024, 08:34 AM
How on earth has Cadden sneaked into your keep list, he’s one of the worst of the lot.

Because I’d play him as a wing back.

Not good at stopping crosses but very good going forward in my opinion.


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The dalmeny
20-05-2024, 11:22 AM
Assume the players lists here aren't supposed to be definitive, there's at least 1 player contracted into next season missing.

AlbertK86
20-05-2024, 11:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB8nIGKbpJY

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PHeffernan
20-05-2024, 12:22 PM
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Sorry, it was cheeky :wink:
Thing is Hibs can't just tell players with contracts to bolt. So paying guys off then purchasing and paying replacements is an expensive business.

In a few days time we will still have 35 contacted players for next season although only 7 will be over the age of 25, 14 are under 22 with most going out on development loans and some of the young guys could be ready to play bigger roles next season along with a handful of new permanents and 3 Bournemouth loans.
The good news is 20 of the 35 contracted players are out of contract in a years time and that will be a massive and easy reset.

Those under contract for next season:

Keepers
Wollacott
Boruc
Johnson

Left Backs
Obita
O.MacIntyre

Right Backs
Miller
Cadden
Megwa
Whittaker

Centre Backs
Harbottle
Bushiri
McClelland
Blaney

Midfielders
Levitt
Doyle-Hayes
Newell
Amos
Henderson
Kenneh
Delferriere
Moriah-Welsh
Campbell
J. MacIntyre
McAllister
Aiken
Molotnikov

Wide attackers
Youan
Boyle
McKirdy
MacKay
Tavares
Zaid

Centre Forwards
O'Connor
Landers
Vente

hibee-boys
20-05-2024, 01:19 PM
Sorry, it was cheeky :wink:
Thing is Hibs can't just tell players with contracts to bolt. So paying guys off then purchasing and paying replacements is an expensive business.
In a few days time we will still have 35 contacted players for next season although only 7 will be over the age of 25 so some of the young guys could be ready to play bigger roles next season along with a handful of new permanents and 3 Bournemouth loans.
The good news is 20 of the 35 contracted players are out of contract in a years time and that will be a massive and easy reset.

Those under contract for next season:

Keepers
Wollacott
Boruc
Johnson

Left Backs
Obita
O.MacIntyre

Right Backs
Miller
Cadden
Megwa
Whittaker

Centre Backs
Harbottle
Bushiri
McClelland
Blaney

Midfielders
Levitt
Doyle-Hayes
Newell
Amos
Henderson
Kenneh
Delferriere
Moriah-Welsh
Campbell
J. MacIntyre
McAllister
Aiken
Molotnikov

Wide attackers
Youan
Boyle
McKirdy
MacKay
Tavares
Zaid

Centre Forwards
O'Connor
Landers
Vente

That list is terrifying, especially down the spine of the team🙈

AlbertK86
20-05-2024, 01:23 PM
Sorry, it was cheeky :wink:
Thing is Hibs can't just tell players with contracts to bolt. So paying guys off then purchasing and paying replacements is an expensive business.
In a few days time we will still have 35 contacted players for next season although only 7 will be over the age of 25 so some of the young guys could be ready to play bigger roles next season along with a handful of new permanents and 3 Bournemouth loans.
The good news is 20 of the 35 contracted players are out of contract in a years time and that will be a massive and easy reset.

Those under contract for next season:

Keepers
Wollacott
Boruc
Johnson

Left Backs
Obita
O.MacIntyre

Right Backs
Miller
Cadden
Megwa
Whittaker

Centre Backs
Harbottle
Bushiri
McClelland
Blaney

Midfielders
Levitt
Doyle-Hayes
Newell
Amos
Henderson
Kenneh
Delferriere
Moriah-Welsh
Campbell
J. MacIntyre
McAllister
Aiken
Molotnikov

Wide attackers
Youan
Boyle
McKirdy
MacKay
Tavares
Zaid

Centre Forwards
O'Connor
Landers
Vente

I realised it was cheeky and no need to apologise !!

I am well aware we can’t just tell
contracted to bolt and it was tongue in cheek but would honestly not give two f€[#s in we got rid off them all [emoji16]


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NAE NOOKIE
20-05-2024, 01:45 PM
How on earth has Cadden sneaked into your keep list, he’s one of the worst of the lot.

Got to agree. He is at best an average defender, and that's me being kind. Going forward he is ok, but just ok, his end product is no better than Youan. I don't believe we can't do better than Cadden.

PHeffernan
20-05-2024, 01:46 PM
That list is terrifying, especially down the spine of the team��

Obviously it will look a whole lot better when the new starters are signed.
Only really looking for starters this summer and a back up left back.

ancient hibee
20-05-2024, 03:46 PM
Because I’d play him as a wing back.

Not good at stopping crosses but very good going forward in my opinion.


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How many goals against start from his wing? How many goals that we score has he an assist for? He’s wholehearted but extremely limited.

Donegal Hibby
20-05-2024, 04:32 PM
How many goals against start from his wing? How many goals that we score has he an assist for? He’s wholehearted but extremely limited.

I think he's a good player as I do Obita , Surprised Obita got PotY tbh as I think he's cost us goals this season .
Both are good going forward but defensively they aren't the best .

Don't know how accurate this is though doesn't seem to be much difference between them apart from the amount of games both's had .

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian/top-scorers