Kensell - stay or go.

[AL-Qaholik]

As it says on the tin.
Montgomery going should be a given.
This charlatan should follow him, imo.

[eastmainsmsh]

Poser of the highest order GTF

[I'm Spartacus]

Whoever votes stay, I'd be interested to hear from you.

[jeffers]

Whoever votes stay, I'd be interested to hear from you.

Here I am.

How much was his involvement in appointing Monty out of interest ?

[AL-Qaholik]

Here I am.

How much was his involvement in appointing Monty out of interest ?

Significantly greater than zero, I’d wager.
Ditto Maloney & Johnson.
Leakier than my bladder as well.

[#2 Double Tap]

Here I am.

How much was his involvement in appointing Monty out of interest ?

directly responsible, he hired and has backed the man who picked him.....like it or not, they are all in the firing line when we fail as bad as we have this year.

[Stokesy's on fire]

He has to go.

[Chorley Hibee]

345k a year.

Nice work for failure.

[JohnM1875]

He's not going anywhere. He's close with the Gordons and as long as they hold a majority in the club he’ll be here.

[jeffers]

directly responsible, he hired and has backed the man who picked him.....like it or not, they are all in the firing line when we fail as bad as we have this year.

Absolutely questions should be asked of everyone but I’ll say it yet again whoever we appoint at our level will always be a bit of a gamble. We got it wrong, yet again, we usually do.

[Not In The Know]

Whoever votes stay, I'd be interested to hear from you.


Me.

His job is essentially to boost the commercial side of the club. He’s done that.

Do we know who is 100% behind picking mangers???

[Joe6-2]

Go

[Donegal Hibby]

Go.

[#2 Double Tap]

Absolutely questions should be asked of everyone but I’ll say it yet again whoever we appoint at our level will always be a bit of a gamble. We got it wrong, yet again, we usually do.

no doubt they are all a gamble, yet some gambles are more appealing to the support, as i just said on another thread they picked LJ over JDT, who at our level does that?

its crazy......the guys in positions of power appear so outa touch with what appeals to football fans...........

[Baldy Foghorn]

I'm sick to death of hearing about corporate/hospitality. Put Hibs team 1st, it's the driver for other good things. How much will our losses be not making top 6/Europe. Those at club only interested in making money

[hibbymark]

Go

[The Harp Awakes]

no doubt they are all a gamble, yet some gambles are more appealing to the support, as i just said on another thread they picked LJ over JDT, who at our level does that?

its crazy......the guys in positions of power appear so outa touch with what appeals to football fans...........

BK and IG keep trying to be too clever time after time in appointing Managers. Going across the other side of the world to recruit a Manager who had nothing on his CV to merit getting the Hibs job.

Absolutely mental. Mickey mouse stuff.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Whoever votes stay, I'd be interested to hear from you.

Keep him in the money side and leave the recruitment to the new BK board members and their list of sporting contacts.

Surely we can’t argue against the commercial and investment success he’s had.

[we are hibs]

Go.


Sadly stuck with Gordon.

[Chorley Hibee]

I'm sick to death of hearing about corporate/hospitality. Put Hibs team 1st, it's the driver for other good things. How much will our losses be not making top 6/Europe. Those at club only interested in making money

We're not even doing that, mate.

We're hemorrhaging money.

[scoopyboy]

Keep him in the money side and leave the recruitment to the new BK board members and their list of sporting contacts.

Surely we can’t argue against the commercial and investment success he’s had.

My thoughts as well, let him bring the money into the club but give him no say on how it gets spent or let him be involved in anything on the football side

[jeffers]

no doubt they are all a gamble, yet some gambles are more appealing to the support, as i just said on another thread they picked LJ over JDT, who at our level does that?

its crazy......the guys in positions of power appear so outa touch with what appeals to football fans...........

The whole board fell for Johnson’s pish after sitting through 7 hours of him. JDT was never a viable option.

[sean04]

100% go

[we are hibs]

The whole board fell for Johnson’s pish after sitting through 7 hours of him. JDT was never a viable option.

He absolutely was. He had agreed a contract in principle as had Johnson and made it to the final 2. It all fell down because he wanted a DOF and Hibs didn't. They wanted Ian Gordon to be given more control over transfers as head of recruitment.

[May21/05/216]

He absolutely was. He had agreed a contract in principle as had Johnson and made it to the final 2. It all fell down because he wanted a DOF and Hibs didn't. They wanted Ian Gordon to be given more control over transfers as head of recruitment.Rubbish

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[0762]

Pretty obvious Kensell’s a Commercial guy but no CEO.
Only met him once and left feeling pretty uninspired by his lack of basic knowledge about the club. Not the sort of person who I think will lead and deliver football success.

[Pretty Boy]

Keep him in the money side and leave the recruitment to the new BK board members and their list of sporting contacts.

Surely we can’t argue against the commercial and investment success he’s had.

Is he going to take a pay cut if his job is downgraded from CEO to glorified commercial director?

[ChuckNor]

I can’t believe 17 people have voted for him to stay. The biggest problem at our club is Ben Kensell. We need to start completely afresh.

[scoopyboy]

I can’t believe 17 people have voted for him to stay. The biggest problem at our club is Ben Kensell. We need to start completely afresh.

Are other people not allowed an opinion?

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think he’d be a loss to the club on a commercial level, so in that regard, I wouldn’t necessarily want to see him go. I would want him removed from all football operations though.

[SickBoy32]

Simply must go. As CEO he has led us backwards, and fast.

For those wanting him to stay but not be responsible for the ‘football side’ - let’s offer him a demotion to sales manager, on a fraction of his current (ludicrous!) remuneration package.

The Hibernian CEO must always be held accountable for the success of the club. Spare me the chat about revenue too, expenses are out of control under this clown.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Simply must go. As CEO he has led us backwards, and fast.

For those wanting him to stay but not be responsible for the ‘football side’ - let’s offer him a demotion to sales manager, on a fraction of his current (ludicrous!) remuneration package.

The Hibernian CEO must always be held accountable for the success of the club. Spare me the chat about revenue too, expenses are out of control under this clown.

With the increase in turnover there could be an argument he’s worth every penny of what he’s paid, even if you removed the football side of things.

He absolutely shouldn’t be involved in that though.

[SickBoy32]

With the increase in turnover there could be an argument he’s worth every penny of what he’s paid, even if you removed the football side of things.

He absolutely shouldn’t be involved in that though.

Why? More money has came in, aye. Even more money has went out though, £4m loss 😂

That’s before we get to the small matter of our first XI being on the slide for the last 3 years.

He leads the club, he’s failed.

[lyonhibs]

Is there any member of any department/role off the pitch, specifically the heads of department, that anyone would be sorry to see go??

It won't happen, but I'd not bat an eyelid if the whole exec management team somehow got their jotters tomorrow.

[Hibeewilly]

I think he’d be a loss to the club on a commercial level, so in that regard, I wouldn’t necessarily want to see him go. I would want him removed from all football operations though.
I agree with you Stubbsy, he's done extremely well on the commercial side, taken us to a new level of income. Him and Ian Gordon should stay clear of football matters and bring in somebody who knows what they're doing

[DTHIBS]

With the increase in turnover there could be an argument he’s worth every penny of what he’s paid, even if you removed the football side of things.

He absolutely shouldn’t be involved in that though.

Any clown can increase turnover by running up a huge operational loss. He is out of his depth and massively overpaid👹

[Swedish hibee]

We want everyone sacked tonight it seems.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Three duds appointed as manager in a row. Buck has to stop somewhere. Out and out stagnation on the pitch.

Everyone should be held to the same standards as the managers who keep getting punted.

[matty_f]

Two bottom six finishes in three seasons. £5m debt run up chasing sporting success that has singularly failed to materialise. Has to be serious questions asked, we need there to be accountability for performances on the pitch and the CEO is accountable for it.

[marinello59]

Two bottom six finishes in three seasons. £5m debt run up chasing sporting success that has singularly failed to materialise. Has to be serious questions asked, we need there to be accountability for performances on the pitch and the CEO is accountable for it.

:agree:

[Pretty Boy]

Two bottom six finishes in three seasons. £5m debt run up chasing sporting success that has singularly failed to materialise. Has to be serious questions asked, we need there to be accountability for performances on the pitch and the CEO is accountable for it.

I think that about sums it up.

When an organisation is failing so obviously in one area, and the most important one at that, then there has to be a root and branch review and no one should be immune.

That's not a 'just sack everyone' opinion. It's just recognition that whatever we are doing isn't working. It's probably fair to say that Kensell and others are aware of their own shortcomings hence the desire to find external help both in terms of finance and expertise.

[we are hibs]

Rubbish

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Not rubbish at all pal. 👍

[Mcbizz1998]

He and his embarrassing Kenny Miller tango face can gtf.

[CallumLaidlaw]

He and his embarrassing Kenny Miller tango face can gtf.

Why can folk not just debate maturely rather than lower themselves to crap insults?


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[Leitherhibs]

Culture at the club has been rotten since his arrival.

[flash]

Any clown can increase turnover by running up a huge operational loss. He is out of his depth and massively overpaid👹

Interesting first post.

[Leitherhibs]

£375k is an awful lot of money for a glorified commercial manager.

[WhileTheChief..]

I'm sick to death of hearing about corporate/hospitality. Put Hibs team 1st, it's the driver for other good things. How much will our losses be not making top 6/Europe. Those at club only interested in making money

:top marks

It's worse than that though.

They are happy making money at the expense of things getting better on the pitch. It's their number one target.

Sell a player for more than we paid and we've done our job. It matters not a jot if the player was any good whilst here. See Melkerson for exhibit A.

[flash]

:top marks

It's worse than that though.

They are happy making money at the expense of things getting better on the pitch. It's their number one target.

Sell a player for more than we paid and we've done our job. It matters not a jot if the player was any good whilst here. See Melkerson for exhibit A.

That second paragraph. Care to expand as it doesn't really make sense to me.

[WhileTheChief..]

Two bottom six finishes in three seasons. £5m debt run up chasing sporting success that has singularly failed to materialise. Has to be serious questions asked, we need there to be accountability for performances on the pitch and the CEO is accountable for it.

What"s this £5m debt?

Previously we were told the Gordon's converted debt to equity or something and posters got shot down for saying they'd built up debts? It was suggested that we were £5m better off because of their generosity.

[WhileTheChief..]

That second paragraph. Care to expand as it doesn't really make sense to me.

Last para explains it no?

Melkerson barely kicked a ball for us. He certainly didn't contribute in any meaningful way to anything on the pitch whilst here.

But we point to the fact that we sold him for a profit as being success and of BK doing his job well.

I see the opposite.

I see the club only being interested in making money from player trading and having zero regard for how much the player contributes to the games he plays in.

Bojangles, Kennah, Jair, Mueller........ all examples of the strategy that failed.

[Hibees1973]

There is a lack of clarity at Hibs as we do not fully know what he does. What are his paramaters.

I think what he says at times has a whole load of smoke and mirrors around it. I know a couple of people who used to be involved at Hibs and know of a couple of instances when he went way beyond his remit.

1. Marching on to the training field to berate Maloney in front of the whole playing squad
2. Interfering in player recruitment. Not player contracts which is all fine and well, but actually watching/choosing players. How is he qualified to do this

There are other things I've heard about which I cannot fully verify but I feel there is more than a grain of truth in them.

Some people on here say he is some kind of marketing wizard and has increases turnover massively. Well he oversaw a £4m loss last year, which cannot reflect well. I think he has hung around on the coat tails of the Gordons wealth.

Kensell is a major part of our problems and should leave.

[joe breezy]

Me.

His job is essentially to boost the commercial side of the club. He’s done that.

Do we know who is 100% behind picking mangers???

Me too


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[GreenCastle]

The worrying this is the new hospitality will be empty - even looking at the seating map you can see the low number of tickets sold for this area.

[The Captain....]

Is there any member of any department/role off the pitch, specifically the heads of department, that anyone would be sorry to see go??

It won't happen, but I'd not bat an eyelid if the whole exec management team somehow got their jotters tomorrow.Amen brother. Pig sick of the lot of them.

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[Alex Trager]

The CEO is in charge of the whole football club.

They set the direction everywhere. He may not be involved with the footballing dept (I suspect he is) but he employs people to run that.

We are a football team first and foremost. The performance under his stewardship on the field has been entirely unacceptable. Petrie sacked Mixu for finishing sixth having beat Hearts at Tynecastle in the post split fixtures.

What I’d give for that level of footballing ‘failure’.

It win’t change though. I’ve been hoping Kensell would ‘learn’ for the last two years. He’s not.

His wages have went up though.

[MWHIBBIES]

LD won the cup from relegation in 2 years.

BK has taken us from 3rd to this mess in 3 years.

Guys a ****ing clown. But he didn't hire himself. Ron Gordon hired him and Ian continues to employ him. That's our real issue.

[Pagan Hibernia]

There is a lack of clarity at Hibs as we do not fully know what he does. What are his paramaters.

I think what he says at times has a whole load of smoke and mirrors around it. I know a couple of people who used to be involved at Hibs and know of a couple of instances when he went way beyond his remit.

1. Marching on to the training field to berate Maloney in front of the whole playing squad
2. Interfering in player recruitment. Not player contracts which is all fine and well, but actually watching/choosing players. How is he qualified to do this

There are other things I've heard about which I cannot fully verify but I feel there is more than a grain of truth in them.

Some people on here say he is some kind of marketing wizard and has increases turnover massively. Well he oversaw a £4m loss last year, which cannot reflect well. I think he has hung around on the coat tails of the Gordons wealth.

Kensell is a major part of our problems and should leave.

:confused: really?? About what, performances and results??

[.Sean.]

Two bottom six finishes in three seasons. £5m debt run up chasing sporting success that has singularly failed to materialise. Has to be serious questions asked, we need there to be accountability for performances on the pitch and the CEO is accountable for it.
Absolutely spot on.

Of course he’s accountable.

And I am absolutely sick to the back teeth hearing about hospitality etc.

We are a FOOTBALL club and we have completely and utterly failed on the pitch for the vast majority of his time with us.

I do not give a **** about wasting money on safe standing for his gimpy mates at Block 7 or shiny fancy bars for the select supporters who can afford them. I want to watch
Hibs do better than the likes of pishy Dundee and beating the St Johnstones of the league at home.

[joe breezy]

I think he’d be a loss to the club on a commercial level, so in that regard, I wouldn’t necessarily want to see him go. I would want him removed from all football operations though.

Good point

[eastmainsmsh]

Absolutely spot on.

Of course he’s accountable.

And I am absolutely sick to the back teeth hearing about hospitality etc.

We are a FOOTBALL club and we have completely and utterly failed on the pitch for the vast majority of his time with us.

I do not give a **** about wasting money on safe standing for his gimpy mates at Block 7 or shiny fancy bars for the select supporters who can afford them. I want to watch
Hibs do better than the likes of pishy Dundee and beating the St Johnstones of the league at home.

Top post 💯 correct

[Just_Jimmy]

Go. His salary can be put to better use.

You can get the same for a third of the cost.

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[H18 SFR]

Kensall has played a bit of a blinder getting the season ticket renewals in so early.

[buktapurple79]

GTF fraud

[Pagan Hibernia]

Well, the two polls would indicate people have more sympathy and patience with kensell than with the manager, which is interesting.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

The CEO is in charge of the whole football club.

They set the direction everywhere. He may not be involved with the footballing dept (I suspect he is) but he employs people to run that.

We are a football team first and foremost. The performance under his stewardship on the field has been entirely unacceptable. Petrie sacked Mixu for finishing sixth having beat Hearts at Tynecastle in the post split fixtures.

What I’d give for that level of footballing ‘failure’.

It win’t change though. I’ve been hoping Kensell would ‘learn’ for the last two years. He’s not.

His wages have went up though.

it’s interesting you mention Mixu.
I’d like to have a pint with him.
The way I viewed Mixus tenure - and it has direct implication for what’s going on today I feel - he tried to make Hibs hard to beat. Maybe he didn’t get enough time but the punters didn’t like it.
Seems to me we have to decide what we’re prepared to compromise on. mind you he didn’t get any return from a proven pedigree player in Jonatan Johansson - ZERO goals! Mind boggling.

[Hibbyradge]

Go. His salary can be put to better use.

You can get the same for a third of the cost.

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His salary would be put to use by giving it to the new CEO.

[LewysGot2]

it’s interesting you mention Mixu.
I’d like to have a pint with him.
The way I viewed Mixus tenure - and it has direct implication for what’s going on today I feel - he tried to make Hibs hard to beat. Maybe he didn’t get enough time but the punters didn’t like it.
Seems to me we have to decide what we’re prepared to compromise on. mind you he didn’t get any return from a proven pedigree player in Jonatan Johansson - ZERO goals! Mind boggling.

Petrie got spooked by poor ST sales as fans weren't happy with football that was setup to make us hard to beat...

Remember it well.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Petrie got spooked by poor ST sales as fans weren't happy with football that was setup to make us hard to beat...

Remember it well.

So serious question folks…

You’re the next Hibs manager. You know what the fans prefer - fast flowing. Attacking football. And yet you have a suspect defence. Your philosophy is attacking. Previously manages trying to go hard to beat first have been shown the door pretty quickly. Do you stick to your philosophy, whilst leaking goals in the initial phase as you’ve been promised time to build OE do you run the risk of not showing the punters what you’re all about as you seek to shore / bore up from the back - and run the risk of. Mikey Atweart questioning your “identity”…

it’s no wonder manages esp young manager try to play to their philosophy - it’s what they want you (supporters) to buy into.

[neil7908]

Three duds appointed as manager in a row. Buck has to stop somewhere. Out and out stagnation on the pitch.

Everyone should be held to the same standards as the managers who keep getting punted.

This. You can only keep pinning failure on the manager for so long before you have to question those making the appointments.

His salary is outrageous imo for the decline on the pitch. And ultimately that's the difference between running a football club and any other business - doesn't matter how much revenue or whatever increases, success is purely about results on the park.

[Just_Jimmy]

His salary would be put to use by giving it to the new CEO.My point, as I'm sure you know G, is that we can get that CEO for a third of what we pay BK.
We'd also likely get a similar level of performance to what we're getting.

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[Hibbyradge]

My point, as I'm sure you know G, is that we can get that CEO for a third of what we pay BK.
We'd also likely get a similar level of performance to what we're getting.

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I'm not G, but I doubt any multi million pound company could get an experienced and competent CEO for £100k.

Using his salary to bash him is a weak argument given that he's brought many times more into the club than he takes out.