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Renfrew_Hibby
09-04-2024, 07:46 AM
An extended interview with Foley on Sky Sports from 10am this morning.

Although it is all focused on Bournemouth it looks at the way he builds an organisation up to continually improve, year on year.
Heavy focus on investing in infrastructure. New stadium lined up and we get to see the ongoing work at the training ground.

He sites infrastructure as key to growing the business and improving/ attracting the level of player required. He believes improving infrastructure was key in the success of his ice hockey franchise in the NHL.

He looks for gradual year on year improvement, nothing too dramatic but it's still mind-blowing to think that he's spent £200M on players in just 18 months.

Should be a good watch.

One Day Soon
09-04-2024, 07:49 AM
What infrastructure do we have left to improve? Scratching my head a bit on that one.

Bostonhibby
09-04-2024, 07:56 AM
We could always argue that the performance of the wee figures dressed in green and white that run around chasing the round thing on the grassy bit in the middle are the most important part of the infrastructure of a football team as far as some customers (fans) are concerned?



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Pretty Boy
09-04-2024, 07:58 AM
What infrastructure do we have left to improve? Scratching my head a bit on that one.

HTC definitely needs a few upgrades. It's running at full capacity, actually over capacity, and still has no full size indoor pitch.

I think many of us still think of it as being the 'new training centre' but it's the best part of 20 year old now. Whilst there has been a lot of work done there over the years it does need another push.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a drive to add more hospitality spaces into the stadium as well.

Jones28
09-04-2024, 08:03 AM
What infrastructure do we have left to improve? Scratching my head a bit on that one.

Indoor pitch was discussed at length for a while, thats the next step for the training centre I would say.

offshorehibby
09-04-2024, 08:19 AM
Any idea what channel/show that's on, i am guessing it's the football show.

andrew70
09-04-2024, 08:35 AM
Any idea what channel/show that's on, i am guessing it's the football show.

It’ll be Sky Sports News

Winston Ingram
09-04-2024, 09:07 AM
What infrastructure do we have left to improve? Scratching my head a bit on that one.

We're building an indoor facility at East Mains I believe

Is It On....
09-04-2024, 09:11 AM
What infrastructure do we have left to improve? Scratching my head a bit on that one.

Full size indoor training pitch? We also need to rebuild and invest in our recruitment process.

Silky
09-04-2024, 09:19 AM
An extended interview with Foley on Sky Sports from 10am this morning.

Although it is all focused on Bournemouth it looks at the way he builds an organisation up to continually improve, year on year.
Heavy focus on investing in infrastructure. New stadium lined up and we get to see the ongoing work at the training ground.

He sites infrastructure as key to growing the business and improving/ attracting the level of player required. He believes improving infrastructure was key in the success of his ice hockey franchise in the NHL.

He looks for gradual year on year improvement, nothing too dramatic but it's still mind-blowing to think that he's spent £200M on players in just 18 months.

Should be a good watch.

Ahh, but we want improvement NOW! Plenty comments on all the threads about managers etc that we want someone who will "make an immediate impact", improve us "now". Reading the room, we don't want "gradual year on year improvement"-we're short-termist. We want it now. Not sure Foley's model will work here!

bingo70
09-04-2024, 09:25 AM
Full size indoor training pitch? We also need to rebuild and invest in our recruitment process.

That’s it. I think there’s a misconception that infrastructure has to be bricks and mortar. That’s not directed at the person you were quoting by the way, I’ve no idea if that’s what they think.

I think investing in the best possible people and technologies will be included in the infrastructure spend Foley is talking about.

Worth remembering as well that Foley isn’t just guessing here, it’ll be based on advice from incredibly experienced and knowledgeable people.

ruthven_raiders
09-04-2024, 09:47 AM
What infrastructure do we have left to improve? Scratching my head a bit on that one.

Our stadium is getting on now, does need a lot of upgrading, also population of Edinburgh is increase massively over next ten years, so gradual improvements in the stadium, increased investment in playing side, then we will see stadium capacity increased...

The Harp Awakes
09-04-2024, 09:55 AM
An extended interview with Foley on Sky Sports from 10am this morning.

Although it is all focused on Bournemouth it looks at the way he builds an organisation up to continually improve, year on year.
Heavy focus on investing in infrastructure. New stadium lined up and we get to see the ongoing work at the training ground.

He sites infrastructure as key to growing the business and improving/ attracting the level of player required. He believes improving infrastructure was key in the success of his ice hockey franchise in the NHL.

He looks for gradual year on year improvement, nothing too dramatic but it's still mind-blowing to think that he's spent £200M on players in just 18 months.

Should be a good watch.

Nothing been on Sky Sorts News yet.

Posh Swanny
09-04-2024, 10:00 AM
Nothing been on Sky Sorts News yet.

On the Sky Sports News Football Show from 11am.

https://x.com/markmcadamtv/status/1777630564868083755

Paulie Walnuts
09-04-2024, 10:01 AM
Our stadium is getting on now, does need a lot of upgrading, also population of Edinburgh is increase massively over next ten years, so gradual improvements in the stadium, increased investment in playing side, then we will see stadium capacity increased...

What’s the stage where stadium capacity increases are recommended? I have in my head it’s when your average hits 80% of capacity? We’d presumably be somewhere around that just now?

Centre Hawf
09-04-2024, 10:11 AM
What’s the stage where stadium capacity increases are recommended? I have in my head it’s when your average hits 80% of capacity? We’d presumably be somewhere around that just now?

It would be interesting to see what the route would be to increasing capacity. If the ticket office was to move to the FF I wonder if you could fill in the corner where it currently sits? Likewise with the car park between that and the east but logistically there isn't a lot of space to start removing things.

.Sean.
09-04-2024, 10:26 AM
It would be interesting to see what the route would be to increasing capacity. If the ticket office was to move to the FF I wonder if you could fill in the corner where it currently sits? Likewise with the car park between that and the east but logistically there isn't a lot of space to start removing things.
Don’t think you can’t build in the NW corner without building over the existing road

Aldo
09-04-2024, 10:47 AM
All Bournemouth chat but what I liked was them learning from previous mistakes to try and get it right.

Success of the LVK shows it can be done. They want success with everything the do and will adopt similar strategy’s moving forward.

Best facilities and people and be a community/team rather than a group of individuals.

I hope I heard this correct.

JimBHibees
09-04-2024, 10:49 AM
Don’t think you can’t build in the NW corner without building over the existing road

Yes very little space there.

ChuckNor
09-04-2024, 11:09 AM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

CapitalGreen
09-04-2024, 11:13 AM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

The vast majority of stadiums moves to the outskirts in the UK have been done by British owners. Our previous owner was desperate to move us to the outskirts of the city at one time.

cabbageandribs1875
09-04-2024, 11:15 AM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

spend between £1-2m upgrading hospitality at ER only to then sell it for housing ?

CapitalGreen
09-04-2024, 11:17 AM
There is zero need to increase capacity at present and there will likely be little need for a long time to come. The only time we come close to selling out these days is when we sell a sizeable area of the stadium to supporters of clubs we despise.

I’d much rather a smaller capacity ground that is full every week rather than rattling round in a ground far too big for our needs.

Jones28
09-04-2024, 11:23 AM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

There's not a chance we will move from ER in the next 100 years. We've spent £2m on hospitality with more to come, the whole stadium is less than 30 years old and there's more hospitality spending coming in the summer, plus the safe standing.

Renfrew_Hibby
09-04-2024, 11:28 AM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

Perhaps for an NFL venue but if you look at Major League Soccer then there has been a real drive towards downtown soccer specific stadiums and they have been a roaring success.
Only today have the American group that owns Birmingham City, of which Tom Brady is a partner, have earmarked a brownfield site a stones throw from the old ground for a new stadium rather than sites that were further out from the city and would have cost less to develope.

Brightside
09-04-2024, 11:31 AM
Ahh, but we want improvement NOW! Plenty comments on all the threads about managers etc that we want someone who will "make an immediate impact", improve us "now". Reading the room, we don't want "gradual year on year improvement"-we're short-termist. We want it now. Not sure Foley's model will work here!

Fans will just have to suck it up.

Viva_Palmeiras
09-04-2024, 11:32 AM
Context within EPL…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68713522

Real Emerald
09-04-2024, 11:36 AM
Ahh, but we want improvement NOW! Plenty comments on all the threads about managers etc that we want someone who will "make an immediate impact", improve us "now". Reading the room, we don't want "gradual year on year improvement"-we're short-termist. We want it now. Not sure Foley's model will work here!

It would help if we even stopped getting worse but that’s what’s currently happening. Neither wonder fans want immediate improvement whilst watching the likes of St Mirren, Dundee and Kilmarnock progressing faster with way fewer resources. It’s imperative we improve quickly.

ruthven_raiders
09-04-2024, 11:38 AM
Don’t think you can’t build in the NW corner without building over the existing road

Woulybe limited in that corner, talk of a direct link from kitchens to hospitality in north stand, also media centre, don't thik that corner would be about increasing capacity, NE area, could increase capacity at that section, looking at roof of the stadium, I can see that being looked at when upgrading is made, it is 30 years old in north and South stand, 25 years old in west Stand, I'm sure west stand could have another tier but then you would have major rebuild, Inc better access stairs and lifts, so that won't be for a while yet. Need several years of success and selling out ground for that to happen.

Viva_Palmeiras
09-04-2024, 11:39 AM
Ahh, but we want improvement NOW! Plenty comments on all the threads about managers etc that we want someone who will "make an immediate impact", improve us "now". Reading the room, we don't want "gradual year on year improvement"-we're short-termist. We want it now. Not sure Foley's model will work here!

well then see relative boom-bust.

We need to get a hold of the systemic issues and change he culture - bizarre considering where we were in 2016.

Seems to me all the chat about culture and character of players - we had that - so weee trying in that sense to ge back to the future :)

When you look at the fall from grace of Man United it’s interesting to see how far and fast the fall from grace can be. It will be interesting to see post Pep the contrast between the Manchester clubs to see whether their apparent focus on continual improvement results in a better chance at sustainability (and less of a fall from grace) time will tell…

A Hi-Bee
09-04-2024, 11:39 AM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

:faf: aint half some poo stirrers on this forum now.

Chorley Hibee
09-04-2024, 11:40 AM
Context within EPL…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68713522

Some of those figures almost defy belief.

Ringothedog
09-04-2024, 11:43 AM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

The new Bournemouth stadium is being built on their current training centre which is next door to the current stadium. Not much of a move and certainly not on the outskirts of their town, outskirts of their current stadium maybe.

Rumble de Thump
09-04-2024, 12:05 PM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

I think a tailgate party in Auchendinny could be decent.

MelbourneHibees
09-04-2024, 12:05 PM
The new Bournemouth stadium is being built on their current training centre which is next door to the current stadium. Not much of a move and certainly not on the outskirts of their town, outskirts of their current stadium maybe.

Helps when you already own land beside the stadium.

Hibernian Verse
09-04-2024, 12:09 PM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

You said the other day that some guys will know how big time you are so can you not just ask Foley when he's winding us up so I can find a new team quickly?

silverhibee
09-04-2024, 12:28 PM
Don’t think you can’t build in the NW corner without building over the existing road

Mr Foley or BKs will just have to buy all the flats on the other side of the road and knock them down.


Ticket office is a listed building I think, would Hibs be allowed to build over or around it and integrate it in to a new part of the stand, think the North to the East is where we start to fill in the corners for me.

ChuckNor
09-04-2024, 12:43 PM
You said the other day that some guys will know how big time you are so can you not just ask Foley when he's winding us up so I can find a new team quickly?

Really any need? I'm only sharing an opinion.

ruthven_raiders
09-04-2024, 12:45 PM
Mr Foley or BKs will just have to buy all the flats on the other side of the road and knock them down.


Ticket office is a listed building I think, would Hibs be allowed to build over or around it and integrate it in to a new part of the stand, think the North to the East is where we start to fill in the corners for me.

Was said before that it might not be listed...

Trinity Hibee
09-04-2024, 12:52 PM
Woulybe limited in that corner, talk of a direct link from kitchens to hospitality in north stand, also media centre, don't thik that corner would be about increasing capacity, NE area, could increase capacity at that section, looking at roof of the stadium, I can see that being looked at when upgrading is made, it is 30 years old in north and South stand, 25 years old in west Stand, I'm sure west stand could have another tier but then you would have major rebuild, Inc better access stairs and lifts, so that won't be for a while yet. Need several years of success and selling out ground for that to happen.

Scary how quickly time passes that the north and south are 30 years old, west 25 years old, east 15 years old and the training centre 17 years old. Where has that time gone

ruthven_raiders
09-04-2024, 12:57 PM
Scary how quickly time passes that the north and south are 30 years old, west 25 years old, east 15 years old and the training centre 17 years old. Where has that time gone

I ask myself that question all the time, now in my early 60s seems like only yesterday that my late dad took me to Easter road in the 60s and 70s, my favourite memory is 3-0 up against the jambos after half an hour, 35k at the game....we dominated that era, luckily for them we didn't play them 3 times a season....

Ringothedog
09-04-2024, 01:00 PM
Helps when you already own land beside the stadium.

It does, but the chances of a minor shareholder being able to push through the sale of Easter Road and move us to a new stadium on the edge of the city is pretty small. If I remember correctly there was talk of adding further tiers to the existing stands if a Euro bid was successful. I wonder if that would ever be an option

darwenhibby
09-04-2024, 02:49 PM
I ask myself that question all the time, now in my early 60s seems like only yesterday that my late dad took me to Easter road in the 60s and 70s, my favourite memory is 3-0 up against the jambos after half an hour, 35k at the game....we dominated that era, luckily for them we didn't play them 3 times a season....

My first derby NYD 1976
Wonder if the police went into the Hibs dressing room and ask them to stop scoring
I seem to remember Cruikshank having a blinder of a second half for them

Slim Shady
09-04-2024, 03:14 PM
HTC definitely needs a few upgrades. It's running at full capacity, actually over capacity, and still has no full size indoor pitch.

I think many of us still think of it as being the 'new training centre' but it's the best part of 20 year old now. Whilst there has been a lot of work done there over the years it does need another push.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a drive to add more hospitality spaces into the stadium as well.

This is where the vast majority of the Foley money will be spent initially.

The Famous Five and East Mains will receive the majority of the cash injection to start.

If fans think we are getting millions to spend on a kitty for players then they will in for a big let down.
Majority of next seasons player budget will be dependant on who is shipped out and using the available freed up funds to sign better player who have played and knowledge in the Scottish game.

Rumble de Thump
09-04-2024, 03:24 PM
This is where the vast majority of the Foley money will be spent initially.

The Famous Five and East Mains will receive the majority of the cash injection to start.

If fans think we are getting millions to spend on a kitty for players then they will in for a big let down.
Majority of next seasons player budget will be dependant on who is shipped out and using the available freed up funds to sign better player who have played and knowledge in the Scottish game.

Foley has already said there will be "a few million pounds" to help Hibs "in the transfer window next summer", although a lot of the money will be invested in the stadium and training centre as you mentioned.

Bridge hibs
09-04-2024, 03:31 PM
Foley has already said there will be "a few million pounds" to help Hibs "in the transfer window next summer", although a lot of the money will be invested in the stadium and training centre as you mentioned. Speaking to the Edinburgh Inquirer, Kensell made one thing clear: "There will also be significant funds available to football, have no doubt about that."

Good enough for me

One Day Soon
09-04-2024, 03:40 PM
Ahh, but we want improvement NOW! Plenty comments on all the threads about managers etc that we want someone who will "make an immediate impact", improve us "now". Reading the room, we don't want "gradual year on year improvement"-we're short-termist. We want it now. Not sure Foley's model will work here!


I'd take year on year improvement in a heartbeat.

In fact I think it is ludicrous to suggest that Hibs fans, generally, are short-termist or that 'We want it now.' Given what we perennially go through as a support I'd suggest we are remarkably patient and tolerant.

And if we ARE ever to be treated to the fantastical heights of gradual improvement it will need to start somewhere. I'd gently suggest that a manager coming in and making the team and squad he inherits better would be that beginning. Harder to beat, fitter on the pitch, smarter in attack, more cohesive as a team, better at closing down without possession, enjoyable to watch etc...most if not all of all the things that a decent manager should be looking to get from his existing squad, never mind the benefits of being able to sign the right new players.

Foley's model absolutely will work here providing the personnel in place are capable of actually delivering throughout the club on the back of the opportunity Foley brings.

ScottB
09-04-2024, 03:43 PM
Infrastructure was always going to be a priority, firstly, he’s done it before, notably building up his hockey team from nothing to champions, so I’d take that to mean he knows what he’s talking about, and secondly, if the group is going to lend us expensive, potentially future Premier League standard players, then they’re going to want them to be looked after in facilities that protect that investment, so not just training facilities, but medical, fitness, dressing rooms… I’d expect an investment in analysis, player analytics etc so their development can be properly tracked, monitored, or so we can better scout players and identify targets.

Turning up and blowing a couple million quid on a few random signings was never going to be the primary focus, that’s not investing in an asset that will benefit the wider group, and that’s the goal here.

One Day Soon
09-04-2024, 03:45 PM
It does, but the chances of a minor shareholder being able to push through the sale of Easter Road and move us to a new stadium on the edge of the city is pretty small. If I remember correctly there was talk of adding further tiers to the existing stands if a Euro bid was successful. I wonder if that would ever be an option

Not just talk, it was scoped out at the time and was certainly technically possible then. It was going to be a temporary addition for the Euros at the time I think.

Hibiza
09-04-2024, 03:55 PM
What infrastructure do we have left to improve? Scratching my head a bit on that one.

Good ,reasonably priced pies and bovril.

JGS56
09-04-2024, 04:09 PM
Mr Foley or BKs will just have to buy all the flats on the other side of the road and knock them down.


Ticket office is a listed building I think, would Hibs be allowed to build over or around it and integrate it in to a new part of the stand, think the North to the East is where we start to fill in the corners for me.

Just checked the listed building website and the ticket office is Not a listed building.

Irish_Steve
09-04-2024, 05:39 PM
And it’s on just now - not sure if it’s a shorter version but he talks a lot of sense

silverhibee
09-04-2024, 05:40 PM
Just checked the listed building website and the ticket office is Not a listed building.

Right knock it down, we just need to demolish all the flats on the other side of the roads and we are good to go.

LunasBoots
09-04-2024, 07:47 PM
Year on year improvement seems good to be, beat whatever model we've been running the past many years.

Broxburn Greens
09-04-2024, 09:09 PM
This is where the vast majority of the Foley money will be spent initially.

The Famous Five and East Mains will receive the majority of the cash injection to start.

If fans think we are getting millions to spend on a kitty for players then they will in for a big let down.
Majority of next seasons player budget will be dependant on who is shipped out and using the available freed up funds to sign better player who have played and knowledge in the Scottish game.

Foley has said in interview there will be “a few millions” available to strengthen the squad this summer.

Not a big let down at all (in my opinion) if that comes to pass.


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lyonhibs
11-04-2024, 01:05 PM
Ahh, but we want improvement NOW! Plenty comments on all the threads about managers etc that we want someone who will "make an immediate impact", improve us "now". Reading the room, we don't want "gradual year on year improvement"-we're short-termist. We want it now. Not sure Foley's model will work here!

I think everyone would be fine with some tangible improvement that aren't too dramatic from next season like oooooooh, I dunno, top 5, a better home record and being within a million points of Hearts???.

Foley's model sounds just fine. The Kensall/Gordon model of spaffing money around to achieve inertia/managed decline is problematic though.

18Craig75
11-04-2024, 02:44 PM
Looks like there’s a big foley interview in the lastest issue of the HQ magazine. Can this be purchased in a digital version?

chippy
11-04-2024, 04:23 PM
Don’t think you can’t build in the NW corner without building over the existing road

Could maybe narrow the road and make it one way perhaps ?

matty_f
11-04-2024, 04:28 PM
I watched the Sky Sports piece last night, I know he's not going to be splashing mega bucks here but I also do think that he knows the model to follow to get success and that goes a long way.

I don't think Bournemouth are going to be a flash in the plan, I think they'll establish themselves as a strong mid-level Premiership team and that, for them, is success. Wouldn't surprise me to see them lift a European trophy in the next decade - Conference League, probably.

Bishop Hibee
11-04-2024, 05:13 PM
I watched the Sky Sports piece last night, I know he's not going to be splashing mega bucks here but I also do think that he knows the model to follow to get success and that goes a long way.

I don't think Bournemouth are going to be a flash in the plan, I think they'll establish themselves as a strong mid-level Premiership team and that, for them, is success. Wouldn't surprise me to see them lift a European trophy in the next decade - Conference League, probably.

I’d put money on Bournemouth never winning a trophy in the next decade never mind a European one!

CapitalGreen
11-04-2024, 06:07 PM
I’d put money on Bournemouth never winning a trophy in the next decade never mind a European one!

You’re probably right but they are certainly trending in the right direction. Over the previous 20 league matches only Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City have a better record. Key for them will be holding onto their better players and manager this summer or effectively replacing those that do leave.

Hibbyradge
11-04-2024, 06:09 PM
You’re probably right but they are certainly trending in the right direction. Over the previous 20 league matches only Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City have a better record. Key for them will be holding onto their better players and manager this summer or effectively replacing those that do leave.

Plus it's probably easier to get to the Europa conferrnce final than any of their domestic cups.

matty_f
11-04-2024, 06:14 PM
Plus it's probably easier to get to the Europa conferrnce final than any of their domestic cups.

:agree:

JohnM1875
11-04-2024, 11:09 PM
You’re probably right but they are certainly trending in the right direction. Over the previous 20 league matches only Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City have a better record. Key for them will be holding onto their better players and manager this summer or effectively replacing those that do leave.

Which they've little to no chance of. It'll always be like that for Premier League teams like Bournemouth.

Why the big man should ***** all his money on Hibs!

Sioux
12-04-2024, 07:55 AM
Comments on infrastructure would leave me concerned regarding the future of Easter Road. Americans love a stadium on the outskirts of a city/town...

This is almost entirely due to the car culture in the US. The required space for thousands of cars at stadium venues can't generally be found in city centre areas.

04Sauzee
19-04-2024, 05:42 PM
Talks about Foley buying Standard Liege. It's been known he's been looking in Belgium, looks like this could be another club in the BK stable.

oneone73
19-04-2024, 05:54 PM
Talks about Foley buying Standard Liege. It's been known he's been looking in Belgium, looks like this could be another club in the BK stable.

Dunno if that's good or bad for us.

joe breezy
19-04-2024, 05:55 PM
This is almost entirely due to the car culture in the US. The required space for thousands of cars at stadium venues can't generally be found in city centre areas.

I’d never go back if Hibs moved stadium


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Wilson
19-04-2024, 06:31 PM
Dunno if that's good or bad for us.

Substandard hibs. Standard Liege. I think the group is moving in the right direction.

Bridge hibs
19-04-2024, 06:39 PM
Talks about Foley buying Standard Liege. It's been known he's been looking in Belgium, looks like this could be another club in the BK stable.Also wants a South American club

Bill Foley

“We’ll have a third European club that will maybe be a level below Ligue 1 and then we’ll take a look at South America and really start investigating that because that’s the feeder system. A Uruguayan club that can feed into a Belgian club, that can feed into a French club, that can feed into a Premier League club. We’re controlling our destiny.

Renfrew_Hibby
19-04-2024, 06:52 PM
Also wants a South American club

Bill Foley

“We’ll have a third European club that will maybe be a level below Ligue 1 and then we’ll take a look at South America and really start investigating that because that’s the feeder system. A Uruguayan club that can feed into a Belgian club, that can feed into a French club, that can feed into a Premier League club. We’re controlling our destiny.

Who's feeding us?

eastmainsmsh
19-04-2024, 06:58 PM
Also wants a South American club

Bill Foley

“We’ll have a third European club that will maybe be a level below Ligue 1 and then we’ll take a look at South America and really start investigating that because that’s the feeder system. A Uruguayan club that can feed into a Belgian club, that can feed into a French club, that can feed into a Premier League club. We’re controlling our destiny.

Hope this Foley geezer is the real deal lol

JohnM1875
19-04-2024, 07:04 PM
Dunno if that's good or bad for us.

Consistently in group stages of Europe. So a step above where we currently are. Whether that's good or bad is anyone’s guess.

04Sauzee
19-04-2024, 07:12 PM
Who's feeding us?

Auckland 👀

BS44
19-04-2024, 07:35 PM
Who's feeding us?

Dalton's

Not In The Know
19-04-2024, 07:49 PM
Celtic and Rangers players if do well move to the Premier League. No reason they can’t move from us if we have our **** together.

I reckon they will see us as an acclimatisation for some players before they step up.

Also the euro cups access (bottom 6 FFS) is huge.

Glory Lurker
19-04-2024, 08:10 PM
So we're going to be an even smaller cog in a big machine than we thought we were? Magic.

JohnM1875
19-04-2024, 08:16 PM
So we're going to be an even smaller cog in a big machine than we thought we were? Magic.

Still think their aim will be the same, to have all teams in their portfolio performing well. Aim will still be the best of the rest.

To do that they’ll need to put the right level of time, money and knowledge into us.

04Sauzee
19-04-2024, 08:18 PM
So we're going to be an even smaller cog in a big machine than we thought we were? Magic.

They were always looking at the Belgian league when they were looking to invest in Hibs. I'm sure there are interviews with Foley out there saying what his vision is.

HerbDailly
19-04-2024, 08:23 PM
Still think their aim will be the same, to have all teams in their portfolio performing well. Aim will still be the best of the rest.

To do that they’ll need to put the right level of time, money and knowledge into us.
We're a team in his portfolio - that's just landed on me.

Ronniekirk
19-04-2024, 09:27 PM
Who's feeding us?
We get the scraps lol

Glory Lurker
19-04-2024, 09:41 PM
They were always looking at the Belgian league when they were looking to invest in Hibs. I'm sure there are interviews with Foley out there saying what his vision is.

I'll take your word. Makes the abuse HSL got even more unfair.

Speaking of which, it was all fever in here ahead of the AGM but almost silence about how this development is good for us.

The Spaceman
19-04-2024, 09:53 PM
We are still owned and controlled by the Gordons. Like any business, if you can gain from economies of scale by being part of a bigger picture, you’ll start to clear your competition. I really, really don’t mind being a part of a large multinational network. We could get some really exciting and interesting players which would otherwise be unreachable. We are also getting significant investment to upgrade our infrastructure to make us a steady (upwards) ship with hopefully the world at our feet.

Mon Season 24/25+.

Not In The Know
19-04-2024, 10:26 PM
I’d never go back if Hibs moved stadium


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you would miss all the matches if you did.

IberianHibernian
19-04-2024, 10:39 PM
We are still owned and controlled by the Gordons. Like any business, if you can gain from economies of scale by being part of a bigger picture, you’ll start to clear your competition. I really, really don’t mind being a part of a large multinational network. We could get some really exciting and interesting players which would otherwise be unreachable. We are also getting significant investment to upgrade our infrastructure to make us a steady (upwards) ship with hopefully the world at our feet.

Mon Season 24/25+. "Clear your competition " . Who is our competition here ? Presumably all other non Old Firm clubs who challenge us in league ? What does " clear" mean ? "World at our feet " ? We `re talking of Hibernian FC which is about to celebrate its 150th anniversary , not a chain of hamburger bars founded a few years ago .

IberianHibernian
19-04-2024, 10:53 PM
They were always looking at the Belgian league when they were looking to invest in Hibs. I'm sure there are interviews with Foley out there saying what his vision is.Are there any interviews where Foley clearly states what his plans are for Hibernian FC ? Where he states our club will just become a small part of a group of clubs around the world for example ?

Hibbyradge
19-04-2024, 11:17 PM
you would miss all the matches if you did.

:faf:

04Sauzee
20-04-2024, 07:45 AM
Are there any interviews where Foley clearly states what his plans are for Hibernian FC ? Where he states our club will just become a small part of a group of clubs around the world for example ?

One of the first small clips I seen where he talked about Hibs , think this was before there was even much talk about Foley buying into Hibs, he mentions a Belgian team here

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/oi555dQBwwn2TEXj/

J-C
20-04-2024, 08:11 AM
So we're going to be an even smaller cog in a big machine than we thought we were? Magic.

Did you think with £4-6m we'd be challenging for the league, top 4 minimum and regular European games and Cup finals will be the aim.

Forza Fred
20-04-2024, 08:27 AM
Who's feeding us?

Auckland FC according to their launch video

Forza Fred
20-04-2024, 08:37 AM
Are there any interviews where Foley clearly states what his plans are for Hibernian FC ? Where he states our club will just become a small part of a group of clubs around the world for example ?

Not in those words, but in the video he did for the Auckland FC launch he says a along the lines that one of the club’s aims is to develop the best young Enzed talent and if they can do that they will bring the players to Scotland, and if they go well there, then there is a chance they could ultimately end up playing in the EPL.

I think it’s clear that his primary focus was and will remain Bournemouth……Hibs are of secondary interest and a tool in his strategy.

Contrary to what has been stated by some I don’t think he’ll ever want to buy Hibs outright.

Jones28
20-04-2024, 09:14 AM
Not in those words, but in the video he did for the Auckland FC launch he says a along the lines that one of the club’s aims is to develop the best young Enzed talent and if they can do that they will bring the players to Scotland, and if they go well there, then there is a chance they could ultimately end up playing in the EPL.

I think it’s clear that his primary focus was and will remain Bournemouth……Hibs are of secondary interest and a tool in his strategy.

Contrary to what has been stated by some I don’t think he’ll ever want to buy Hibs outright.

On that last point, while I think you’re right I also think that if the Gordon’s wanted out he would take the opportunity.

Glory Lurker
20-04-2024, 09:48 AM
Did you think with £4-6m we'd be challenging for the league, top 4 minimum and regular European games and Cup finals will be the aim.

No, I've been sceptical about the whole thing from the off. I really hope I am wrong but personally I'm even less comfortable about what this will mean for us than I was. I find the whole thing a bit bewildering and without anything worth watching on the park to distract me, I'm concerned.

jacomo
20-04-2024, 12:44 PM
We are still owned and controlled by the Gordons. Like any business, if you can gain from economies of scale by being part of a bigger picture, you’ll start to clear your competition. I really, really don’t mind being a part of a large multinational network. We could get some really exciting and interesting players which would otherwise be unreachable. We are also getting significant investment to upgrade our infrastructure to make us a steady (upwards) ship with hopefully the world at our feet.

Mon Season 24/25+.


Majority owned by the Gordons, yes. I’m not entirely sure who’s in control now.

Allant1981
20-04-2024, 02:11 PM
Majority owned by the Gordons, yes. I’m not entirely sure who’s in control now.

Would be amazed if the BKs aren't running the show now, despite the "minority" shareholding

overdrive
20-04-2024, 02:13 PM
On that last point, while I think you’re right I also think that if the Gordon’s wanted out he would take the opportunity.

As it stands, he’s not allowed to buy out the Gordons. The rules would have to change

CropleyWasGod
20-04-2024, 02:15 PM
Would be amazed if the BKs aren't running the show now, despite the "minority" shareholding

I'm like a broken record on this :greengrin

They have 2 on the executive Board of 5.

J-C
20-04-2024, 02:20 PM
Majority owned by the Gordons, yes. I’m not entirely sure who’s in control now.

The Gordon's know nothing about running a sports club, Kensall was the man to bring in outside investment/business, the BK group are a sports based company and this tie up will allow them and the Gordon's to grow Hibs into the team Ron wanted.

jacomo
20-04-2024, 02:30 PM
I'm like a broken record on this :greengrin

They have 2 on the executive Board of 5.


I’m a broken record too :greengrin

To quite directly from the recent Board statement:

“we will conduct a full review of the Club’s football structure in conjunction with Black Knight Football Club”

It is clear that it is not just our Board conducting this review. We can only guess as to who have the loudest voices during this process.

TrinityHFC
20-04-2024, 02:36 PM
I'm like a broken record on this :greengrin

They have 2 on the executive Board of 5.

I’ve never heard us talk about having an executive board?

CentreLine
20-04-2024, 02:46 PM
I’ve never heard us talk about having an executive board?

Suppose we have executive and non executive directors. Two of the five executive directors are Foley plus one. No?

TrinityHFC
20-04-2024, 02:51 PM
Suppose we have executive and non executive directors. Two of the five executive directors are Foley plus one. No?

The split is a bit different now per the articles.

We have non execs, we have majority shareholder directors and investor directors. Then we have the executive director (CEO)

I don’t think that all the ones that aren’t non execs are necessarily exec directors which usually applies to those who also have a day to day role in the management team.

CentreLine
20-04-2024, 02:55 PM
The split is a bit different now per the articles.

We have non execs, we have majority shareholder directors and investor directors. Then we have the executive director (CEO)

I don’t think that all the ones that aren’t non execs are necessarily exec directors which usually applies to those who also have a day to day role in the management team.

Thank you. Glad I put the question mark
In 🙂

CropleyWasGod
20-04-2024, 03:00 PM
The split is a bit different now per the articles.

We have non execs, we have majority shareholder directors and investor directors. Then we have the executive director (CEO)

I don’t think that all the ones that aren’t non execs are necessarily exec directors which usually applies to those who also have a day to day role in the management team.

Where is that in the Articles?

ShetlandHibby
20-04-2024, 03:33 PM
This would be good. Not only have we got top notch youngsters from the epl but now we can get top Belgian youngsters. Belgium have so many amazing young players coming thru. These young talents mixed with some older epl quality loan players from Bournemouth and we’ll be fighting it out at the top end of the league. Also wonder if our young players will get to go south or to Belgium for some experience?

CentreLine
20-04-2024, 03:41 PM
Where is that in the Articles?

Oooow. Even more glad I put a question mark in 😁

Allant1981
20-04-2024, 04:41 PM
I'm like a broken record on this :greengrin

They have 2 on the executive Board of 5.

They could have no one on the board and they would still be running the show

Lago
20-04-2024, 06:13 PM
They could have no one on the board and they would still be running the show
Good

Eyrie
20-04-2024, 06:32 PM
They could have no one on the board and they would still be running the show

:agree: Money talks and the more money you have, the easier it is to be heard.

Bridge hibs
20-04-2024, 07:45 PM
Recent Bournemouth fans forum Q&A with regards Foleys investments and future plans, no hibs content but some interesting stuff

https://www.afcb.co.uk/news/club-news/fans-forum-minutes-april-2024/

Bishop Hibee
20-04-2024, 08:25 PM
What happens when Foley dies? Is there an heir apparent?

matty_f
20-04-2024, 08:29 PM
What happens when Foley dies? Is there an heir apparent?

It's Black Knight FC that have bought into us, rather than Foley. Things will continue, they'll just replace him on the board.

Bishop Hibee
20-04-2024, 08:41 PM
It's Black Knight FC that have bought into us, rather than Foley. Things will continue, they'll just replace him on the board.

Thanks for that. I’d still prefer if us fans had managed to get 25% of the shares to stop any unwanted takeovers. If there’s no improvement on the field in the first half of next season the natives will get even more restless.

HerbDailly
21-04-2024, 07:53 AM
It's Black Knight FC that have bought into us, rather than Foley. Things will continue, they'll just replace him on the board.Black Knight are majority owned by Cannae Holdings, which appears to be Foley's vehicle.

https://investor.cannaeholdings.com/corporate-governance/board-of-directors

"William P. Foley, II is Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Chief Investment Officer of Cannae Holdings, Inc."

Eyrie
21-04-2024, 08:42 AM
If Foley's company is called Cannae, then he will want a manager who likes to overload the wings.

matty_f
21-04-2024, 10:11 AM
Black Knight are majority owned by Cannae Holdings, which appears to be Foley's vehicle.

https://investor.cannaeholdings.com/corporate-governance/board-of-directors

"William P. Foley, II is Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Chief Investment Officer of Cannae Holdings, Inc."

It is but that doesn't really change anything, they're involved in loads of things that won't just stop overnight if and when Foley dies. https://www.cannaeholdings.com/static-files/b1d179c7-69de-4f06-9657-4ee65d049b10

The Modfather
21-04-2024, 10:23 AM
If Foley's company is called Cannae, then he will want a manager who likes to overload the wings.

Underrated post. Maolida and Boyle to double envelope opposition defences.

TrinityHFC
21-04-2024, 10:32 AM
Where is that in the Articles?

Section 7 covering appointment of Directors.

In our website now we really should split out the tiles to add majority shareholder directors and minority investor directors.

Greenworld
21-04-2024, 11:09 AM
Majority owned by the Gordons, yes. I’m not entirely sure who’s in control now.I think the answer is in the multi ownership. You would imagine the goal is to get the teams playing in a similar style so players can move between teams and just slot in so to speak . Which must mean black k have a very strong hand

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jacomo
21-04-2024, 12:26 PM
I think the answer is in the multi ownership. You would imagine the goal is to get the teams playing in a similar style so players can move between teams and just slot in so to speak . Which must mean black k have a very strong hand

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I have wondered about this.

Again, this isn’t how the deal was presented when it was announced… that we would become a feeder club for their project.

CropleyWasGod
21-04-2024, 01:11 PM
Section 7 covering appointment of Directors.

In our website now we really should split out the tiles to add majority shareholder directors and minority investor directors.

Thanks.

My reading of that is that these are "offices", if that's the right word, the constitution of the Board. We have 2 board memberships for majority shareholder directors, for example, so that if one leaves another from that environment joins. Similar to the office we had for the supporter director in the past.

That's different from the distinction between executive and non-execs. For me, you're either one or the other. We know who the non-execs are, so by default the others are execs.