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Cat Stanton
04-04-2024, 09:45 PM
Some vague chat in the news today about the state of Dundee's pitch (on account of recent heavy rain) and whether they might have to play their next home games at a different ground. Clearly doesn't sound like that's going to happen (although it might be good for us if it were true) but the funniest thing about the club statement is the name of their stadium - when did this happen?

The statement apparently says: "Dundee Football Club want to respond to media speculation regarding the club being forced to move Saturday’s match against Motherwell away from the Scot Foam Stadium...."

The Scot Foam Stadium? Really?

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-top-six-rivals-dundee-pitch-statement-4579627

SHODAN
04-04-2024, 10:02 PM
Are they ever going to move to that proposed new ground at Camperdown Park?

Carheenlea
04-04-2024, 11:48 PM
Wonder who will get their new stadium finished first - Aberdeen or Dundee?

Moulin Yarns
05-04-2024, 07:46 AM
Wonder who will get their new stadium finished first - Aberdeen or Dundee?

Or hearts? 🤔

007
05-04-2024, 10:33 PM
I see they are now putting covers down. Owner previously said they'd done everything they could to get the game on v Rangers. Obviously have realised it was a cock-up as they didn't have covers before but thought 10 guys with forks and sand turning up at 6am would be enough.

https://i.ibb.co/gmkH56t/images-1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

JohnM1875
05-04-2024, 11:20 PM
Think the game will be on tomorrow regardless if the pitch is playable or not. Really poor stuff but think SPFL will force it through.

At least Dundee are trying to move to a new stadium I suppose, whether it ever happens or not. Read the fault isn't actually with Dens Park but the drainage from the Tay.

JimBHibees
06-04-2024, 08:29 AM
Think the game will be on tomorrow regardless if the pitch is playable or not. Really poor stuff but think SPFL will force it through.

At least Dundee are trying to move to a new stadium I suppose, whether it ever happens or not. Read the fault isn't actually with Dens Park but the drainage from the Tay.

Would that not also affect United across the road whose games are always on

O'Rourke3
06-04-2024, 08:32 AM
Would that not also affect United across the road whose games are always onThat's cos they play on sand.....Not for nothing are they known as The Arabs [emoji3]

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JimBHibees
06-04-2024, 08:33 AM
That's cos they play on sand.....Not for nothing are they known as The Arabs [emoji3]

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😄

DH1875
06-04-2024, 09:14 AM
I see they are now putting covers down. Owner previously said they'd done everything they could to get the game on v Rangers. Obviously have realised it was a cock-up as they didn't have covers before but thought 10 guys with forks and sand turning up at 6am would be enough.

https://i.ibb.co/gmkH56t/images-1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

They still don't have covers. They have had to borrow these ones from celtic lol. Ridiculous really as would have thought that was the minimum requirement for clubs in the top league.

So.....If they do have to postpone and play the game at Airdrie on Monday, not exactly ideal given Dundee play rangers on the Wednesday is it. Celtic fans will have a breakdown.

Pagan Hibernia
06-04-2024, 09:23 AM
Dens Park is an awful dump of a place.

'Traditional' is about the kindest word I can muster

monarch
06-04-2024, 09:33 AM
Dens Park is an awful dump of a place.

'Traditional' is about the kindest word I can muster

The scene of the greatest meltdown in Scottish football in 1986.

I KIDD you not 🤣

Smartie
06-04-2024, 09:42 AM
Dens Park is an awful dump of a place.

'Traditional' is about the kindest word I can muster

I love Dens, my favourite away ground.

It’ll be missed when it becomes another out of town meccano box with nothing of interest nearby.

Trinity Hibee
06-04-2024, 09:50 AM
Dens Park is an awful dump of a place.

'Traditional' is about the kindest word I can muster

Have to agree. Absolute hole

Albert Kidd 86’
06-04-2024, 09:50 AM
The scene of the greatest meltdown in Scottish football in 1986.

I KIDD you not 🤣

still brings a nice warm feeling to my heart…

Trinity Hibee
06-04-2024, 10:30 AM
Further Pitch Inspection- Motherwell

Following this morning’s scheduled pitch inspection the referee has deemed there will be a further inspection at 1pm this afternoon

Dashing Bob S
06-04-2024, 10:31 AM
I love Dens, my favourite away ground.

It’ll be missed when it becomes another out of town meccano box with nothing of interest nearby.

Agreed.

He's here!
06-04-2024, 10:46 AM
Further Pitch Inspection- Motherwell

Following this morning’s scheduled pitch inspection the referee has deemed there will be a further inspection at 1pm this afternoon

Ridiculous. The pitch is clearly unfit for purpose and needs dug up.

On the potential plus side I hope the difficulties they're having have a positive impact on our top six bid.

.Sean.
06-04-2024, 10:47 AM
My favourite away games are the likes of Dens, Tannadice, Fir Park. Do some folk seriously prefer these soulless IKEA flat pack stadiums??

Coach Jon
06-04-2024, 10:57 AM
Further Pitch Inspection- Motherwell

Following this morning’s scheduled pitch inspection the referee has deemed there will be a further inspection at 1pm this afternoon

That is farcical, the pitch must be unplayable at the moment and they are hoping the wind will give it a chance, no thought for travelling fans.

jws1875
06-04-2024, 10:59 AM
Sky just posted a video on twitter.. Pitch is far from playable will take a lot of work to get that on!

lugz
06-04-2024, 11:01 AM
If only there was a stadium a stones throw away that they could use.

Trinity Hibee
06-04-2024, 11:03 AM
Once again multiple lower league clubs games are all on today. Dundee is the only team that repeatedly has these issues.

Northernhibee
06-04-2024, 11:07 AM
They should start forfeiting games if they can’t put on a match when everyone else can.

Trinity Hibee
06-04-2024, 11:09 AM
https://x.com/aj0842/status/1776561849305067720?s=46&t=Lf2Je9-hRg6uExdvfVlCgA

Skol
06-04-2024, 11:12 AM
https://x.com/aj0842/status/1776561849305067720?s=46&t=Lf2Je9-hRg6uExdvfVlCgA

That’s not going to get much better in a couple of hours.

HH81
06-04-2024, 11:16 AM
https://x.com/aj0842/status/1776561849305067720?s=46&t=Lf2Je9-hRg6uExdvfVlCgA

Is that water or just a pile of sand 🤔

Skol
06-04-2024, 11:20 AM
Is that water or just a pile of sand 🤔

Looks like a mix of both. Not unlike the sand at Porty beach as the tide goes out.

SteveHFC
06-04-2024, 11:22 AM
Celtic fans will have a breakdown.

also give dundee an advantage over us if it isnt played today as they would know what result they need and can change game plan to suit

CB Hibs 68
06-04-2024, 11:26 AM
also give dundee an advantage over us if it isnt played today as they would know what result they need and can change game plan to suit

Exactly my thoughts as well.If we win today then Motherwell can’t get top six so may take the edge off their game when they eventually play.

scoopyboy
06-04-2024, 11:29 AM
also give dundee an advantage over us if it isnt played today as they would know what result they need and can change game plan to suit

As long as we win today I think it puts more pressure on them.

Potentially three games in five days won't help them in the slightest.

If we win at Fir Park as well then we finish on 44 points.

They would then need six points from three games in five days including a game against Rangers.

Moulin Yarns
06-04-2024, 11:36 AM
Think the game will be on tomorrow regardless if the pitch is playable or not. Really poor stuff but think SPFL will force it through.

At least Dundee are trying to move to a new stadium I suppose, whether it ever happens or not. Read the fault isn't actually with Dens Park but the drainage from the Tay.

Dens park is 1.5 miles away from the Tay and 300ft higher. Doubt it will be affected by the Tay which 'drains' into the North Sea. 😂

Moulin Yarns
06-04-2024, 11:44 AM
My favourite away games are the likes of Dens, Tannadice, Fir Park. Do some folk seriously prefer these soulless IKEA flat pack stadiums??

Is Easter Road not an IKEA flat pack as well?


Dundee new stadium

The stadium will have a capacity in excess of 12,500 and is designed to host music concerts and other major entertainment events.

Plans also include a safe standing area in the home end, installation of state-of-the-art LED screens, and tiered hospitality offerings for all fans to enjoy as part of the experience, including a 250-capacity brew hall.

https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/planning-permission-submitted/#:~:text=The%20Scottish%20football%20authorities%2 0have,and%20campus%20at%20Camperdown%20Park.

It's next to the leisure park with a mcdonalds, KFC and pub so not in the middle of nowhere.

Smartie
06-04-2024, 11:47 AM
Is Easter Road not an IKEA flat pack as well?


Dundee new stadium

The stadium will have a capacity in excess of 12,500 and is designed to host music concerts and other major entertainment events.

Plans also include a safe standing area in the home end, installation of state-of-the-art LED screens, and tiered hospitality offerings for all fans to enjoy as part of the experience, including a 250-capacity brew hall.

https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/planning-permission-submitted/#:~:text=The%20Scottish%20football%20authorities%2 0have,and%20campus%20at%20Camperdown%20Park.

It is now, although it benefits greatly from still being slap, bang in the middle of a wonderful city.

Renfrew_Hibby
06-04-2024, 11:48 AM
Is Easter Road not an IKEA flat pack as well?


Dundee new stadium

The stadium will have a capacity in excess of 12,500 and is designed to host music concerts and other major entertainment events.

Plans also include a safe standing area in the home end, installation of state-of-the-art LED screens, and tiered hospitality offerings for all fans to enjoy as part of the experience, including a 250-capacity brew hall.

https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/planning-permission-submitted/#:~:text=The%20Scottish%20football%20authorities%2 0have,and%20campus%20at%20Camperdown%20Park.

If Dundee can make this a reality then it will be a class stadium.
This will be no Airdie, St.Mirren or St.Johnstone

Moulin Yarns
06-04-2024, 12:09 PM
Game is ON!

Trinity Hibee
06-04-2024, 12:09 PM
Game is on

JohnM1875
06-04-2024, 12:09 PM
Game on.

Going by the Twitter clips it doesn't look playable at all.

Callum_62
06-04-2024, 12:16 PM
Game on.

Going by the Twitter clips it doesn't look playable at all.It's not - if this was earlier in the season it would be off - in pretty sure of that

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Chorley Hibee
06-04-2024, 12:23 PM
Not a chance that pitch is playable.

They just don't want to deal with the fallout of it being off.

It would **** up the post-split fixtures etc, and the subsequent backlash for action to be taken against Dundee.

Utter shambles.

Chorley Hibee
06-04-2024, 12:25 PM
Call me a cynic, but I wouldn't be surprised if the powers that be want to **** the pitch further in order that the Rangers game (midweek) is moved elsewhere.

Talk of Hampden being a possibility this morning should that happen.

He's here!
06-04-2024, 12:32 PM
Not a chance that pitch is playable.

They just don't want to deal with the fallout of it being off.

It would **** up the post-split fixtures etc, and the subsequent backlash for action to be taken against Dundee.

Utter shambles.

Yes, got to imagine the powers that be were keen to see it get the go-ahead.

Anyway, come on Well - or would a draw be best for us (on the basis we manage a win ourselves today)?

Monts
06-04-2024, 12:33 PM
https://x.com/MotherwellFC/status/1776585757488038058?s=08

Motherwell not happy

HH81
06-04-2024, 12:40 PM
https://x.com/MotherwellFC/status/1776585757488038058?s=08

Motherwell not happy

Looks like they thought it would be 100% off.

Callum_62
06-04-2024, 12:42 PM
Yes, got to imagine the powers that be were keen to see it get the go-ahead.

Anyway, come on Well - or would a draw be best for us (on the basis we manage a win ourselves today)?If we win today Motherwell can't catch us regardless there score

A win for us and we'll is the best outcome

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Northernhibee
06-04-2024, 12:42 PM
https://x.com/MotherwellFC/status/1776585757488038058?s=08

Motherwell not happy

Understandable, if one of their players gets an injury I hope they take it further.

HUTCHYHIBBY
06-04-2024, 12:43 PM
Dens park is 1.5 miles away from the Tay and 300ft higher. Doubt it will be affected by the Tay which 'drains' into the North Sea. 😂

That had me a bit confused too I must admit. ☺️

Itsnoteasy
06-04-2024, 12:53 PM
The scene of the greatest meltdown in Scottish football in 1986.

I KIDD you not 🤣

If only that was cancelled. Give Levein another week to $h1t himself

Eyrie
06-04-2024, 03:14 PM
Not a chance that pitch is playable.

They just don't want to deal with the fallout of it being off.

It would **** up the post-split fixtures etc, and the subsequent backlash for action to be taken against Dundee.

Utter shambles.

And part of the problem there is not keeping the coming midweek free because the Huns wanted a week off.

Fuzzywuzzy
06-04-2024, 05:03 PM
Most stadiums in Scotland seem to be outdated. Worldwide the format looks to be and curved corners/oval/bowl type where is still rectangular.

Chorley Hibee
06-04-2024, 05:46 PM
Most stadiums in Scotland seem to be outdated. Worldwide the format looks to be and curved corners/oval/bowl type where is still rectangular.

Most stadium renovations in Scotland were in the 1990's.

Many are already looking their age, including parts of Easter Road.

DH1875
06-04-2024, 06:31 PM
Staggered to hear that they don't even have any ground staff. No wonder its a mess.

LewysGot2
06-04-2024, 06:37 PM
Staggered to hear that they don't even have any ground staff. No wonder its a mess.

Do they pay a company?

Trinity Hibee
09-04-2024, 06:37 PM
https://x.com/dundeefc/status/1777727828366176393?s=46&t=Lf2Je9-hRg6uExdvfVlCgA

So because it’s rangers an early morning decision will be made. Funny that Motherwell weren’t given the same courtesy on Saturday

Since452
10-04-2024, 09:00 AM
https://x.com/dundeefc/status/1777727828366176393?s=46&t=Lf2Je9-hRg6uExdvfVlCgA

So because it’s rangers an early morning decision will be made. Funny that Motherwell weren’t given the same courtesy on Saturday

Ludicrous. It's to be torrential rain from 2pm onwards.

green day
10-04-2024, 09:11 AM
Ludicrous. It's to be torrential rain from 2pm onwards.

Even better, game on, Orcs descend on Dundee, game called off last minute.

Delicious:thumbsup:

He's here!
10-04-2024, 09:23 AM
Ludicrous. It's to be torrential rain from 2pm onwards.

Yep, it's a farce.

I'd rather see the game on and Rangers win to preserve our slim top six hopes. Either that or Dundee docked points.

Coach Jon
10-04-2024, 10:33 AM
Ludicrous. It's to be torrential rain from 2pm onwards.

yeh, they are planning another inspection later on now.

Hibernian Verse
10-04-2024, 10:41 AM
https://x.com/dundeefc/status/1777727828366176393?s=46&t=Lf2Je9-hRg6uExdvfVlCgA

So because it’s rangers an early morning decision will be made. Funny that Motherwell weren’t given the same courtesy on Saturday

To be fair, they were called off at the last minute previously. If it was Hibs I'd have hoped the club would be demanding an early inspection.

green day
10-04-2024, 10:46 AM
To be fair, they were called off at the last minute previously. If it was Hibs I'd have hoped the club would be demanding an early inspection.

Fair?

Its Rangers

**** Fair

Winston Ingram
10-04-2024, 10:48 AM
Ludicrous. It's to be torrential rain from 2pm onwards.

This is dodgy as ****.

This means that if we get a win on Saturday and Dundee don't we won't know if we've made the top 6 until after this game is played.

007
10-04-2024, 10:56 AM
It should never have been called off the 1st time as they could easily have had the pitch ready. At the time, the owner said they'd done everything possible i.e. about 10-12 guys there at 6am with sand and pitchforks, which exactly sound like a big effort to me. This time they've been using rain covers so where were they the last time? If they now get to play the game after Saturday then it destroys the integrity of the league.

18Craig75
10-04-2024, 11:06 AM
This is dodgy as ****.

This means that if we get a win on Saturday and Dundee don't we won't know if we've made the top 6 until after this game is played.

Our game should be postponed as well and played at the same time as Dundee. If thats not possible then Dundee should have a 0-3 defeat marked against them.

The money they should have spent on that pitch has clearly been used to bolster their football operations. Imagine if the 1.5 million we spent on pitches in the summer went to our transfer budget as well…


Btw I’d be saying this if it was anyone else fighting with Dundee for top six, honestly…(ok apart from Hearts).

Farce.

Fuzzywuzzy
10-04-2024, 11:12 AM
It should never have been called off the 1st time as they could easily have had the pitch ready. At the time, the owner said they'd done everything possible i.e. about 10-12 guys there at 6am with sand and pitchforks, which exactly sound like a big effort to me. This time they've been using rain covers so where were they the last time? If they now get to play the game after Saturday then it destroys the integrity of the league.


They apparently borrowed the rain covers from celtic

Winston Ingram
10-04-2024, 11:18 AM
Our game should be postponed as well and played at the same time as Dundee. If thats not possible then Dundee should have a 0-3 defeat marked against them.

The money they should have spent on that pitch has clearly been used to bolster their football operations. Imagine if the 1.5 million we spent on pitches in the summer went to our transfer budget as well…


Btw I’d be saying this if it was anyone else fighting with Dundee for top six, honestly…(ok apart from Hearts).

Farce.

My thoughts as well.

He's here!
10-04-2024, 11:22 AM
https://x.com/dundeefc/status/1777727828366176393?s=46&t=Lf2Je9-hRg6uExdvfVlCgA

So because it’s rangers an early morning decision will be made. Funny that Motherwell weren’t given the same courtesy on Saturday

IIRC the original fixture was called off when the Rangers squad had already arrived at stadium?

The opposition is irrelevant here, the fault lies with Dundee.

hibstag
10-04-2024, 11:29 AM
Our game should be postponed as well and played at the same time as Dundee. If thats not possible then Dundee should have a 0-3 defeat marked against them.

The money they should have spent on that pitch has clearly been used to bolster their football operations. Imagine if the 1.5 million we spent on pitches in the summer went to our transfer budget as well…


Btw I’d be saying this if it was anyone else fighting with Dundee for top six, honestly…(ok apart from Hearts).

Farce.

Award a three nil win to the rangers for an easily rescheduled game, could you imagine the fallout from that if they won the league by three points. 'Tainted title'

JimBHibees
10-04-2024, 11:39 AM
Award a three nil win to the rangers for an easily rescheduled game, could you imagine the fallout from that if they won the league by three points. 'Tainted title'

Rangers are ok with they sort of titles

Not In The Know
10-04-2024, 11:52 AM
Our game should be postponed as well and played at the same time as Dundee. If thats not possible then Dundee should have a 0-3 defeat marked against them.

The money they should have spent on that pitch has clearly been used to bolster their football operations. Imagine if the 1.5 million we spent on pitches in the summer went to our transfer budget as well…


Btw I’d be saying this if it was anyone else fighting with Dundee for top six, honestly…(ok apart from Hearts).

Farce.

100% this. Its a total shambles and harks back to the days of clubs like Gretna, Livi (AND DUNDEE) overspending on players to save league position at all costs

Callum_62
10-04-2024, 12:09 PM
Deduct Dundee 5 points and motherwell 2 just for a laugh

https://twitter.com/DundeeFC/status/1778007522089095642?t=RHDnUO4X-Oh6F5KxRy7I9w&s=19

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snedzuk
10-04-2024, 02:01 PM
Deduct Dundee 5 points and motherwell 2 just for a laugh

https://twitter.com/DundeeFC/status/1778007522089095642?t=RHDnUO4X-Oh6F5KxRy7I9w&s=19

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Theres a pic on that twitter feed from yesterday of them watering the pitch!

Since452
10-04-2024, 02:34 PM
To be nice in Dundee tomorrow. 16 degrees and sunny. Should just move it forward 24 hours unless they're at the mercy of Sky?

SteveHFC
10-04-2024, 02:52 PM
Game off.

Coach Jon
10-04-2024, 02:54 PM
The game is off , the pitch looks dodgy.

MWHIBBIES
10-04-2024, 03:00 PM
Think it's all quite funny. Not really fussed about it's effect on us. Hibs missing top 6 is Hibs fault, no one else's.

BILLYHIBS
10-04-2024, 03:01 PM
Aw just give the game to The Hun 0-3

Three penalties

No one cares anymore

The games up the pole

Bristolhibby
10-04-2024, 03:02 PM
If Dundee win on Saturday the split is persevered. Any other result and we (and Motherwell) are in with a shout of top 6.

J

Since452
10-04-2024, 03:05 PM
Think it's all quite funny. Not really fussed about it's effect on us. Hibs missing top 6 is Hibs fault, no one else's.

Anything that upsets Sevco fans is OK with me.

SteveHFC
10-04-2024, 03:08 PM
Being played next Wednesday.

SteveHFC
10-04-2024, 03:09 PM
The Rangers statement.

https://www.rangers.co.uk/Article/club-statement-dundee-match-postponement-2024-04-10/1pZRDRxdOc1zY2sHgi83pO

nonshinyfinish
10-04-2024, 03:10 PM
Being played next Wednesday.

So the best case for us is that we end up cheering on the Orcs in the hope of scraping into the top six.

Lean times.

He's here!
10-04-2024, 03:11 PM
Think it's all quite funny. Not really fussed about it's effect on us. Hibs missing top 6 is Hibs fault, no one else's.

I guess Rangers might not be too fussed about getting some down time after the Old Firm game.

It's Dundee who come out this looking daft.

He's here!
10-04-2024, 03:12 PM
Being played next Wednesday.

Provided it doesn't rain.

HibeeMackenzie
10-04-2024, 03:12 PM
How is it fair for them to play their last game before the split after us and Motherwell?

Brooster
10-04-2024, 03:15 PM
The Rangers statement.

https://www.rangers.co.uk/Article/club-statement-dundee-match-postponement-2024-04-10/1pZRDRxdOc1zY2sHgi83pO

Can't argue with any of that. Gives Dundee an advantage should the top 6 not be settled this weekend.

WeAreHibs
10-04-2024, 03:15 PM
Absolute joke

He's here!
10-04-2024, 03:16 PM
The Rangers statement.

https://www.rangers.co.uk/Article/club-statement-dundee-match-postponement-2024-04-10/1pZRDRxdOc1zY2sHgi83pO


I know they love to sound all high and mighty with their statements but they have a valid point here. Motherwell didn't hold back with their thoughts last weekend.

Might not actually be entirely fanciful to think Dundee might lose points over this.

One Day Soon
10-04-2024, 03:16 PM
1. Rangers definitely have a point here.
2. Do they have a member of staff employed full time purely to issue statements like confetti?
3. "negligence and unprofessionalism" - Is unprofessionalism really a word?

The Harp Awakes
10-04-2024, 03:18 PM
This report says that the SPFL have already initiated disciplinary action against Dundee:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68695355

There can't be any guarantee that the pitch will be playable on the 17th. What happens then? The following weekend is the Scottish Cup Semis. A neutral venue on Wednesday 24th?

One Day Soon
10-04-2024, 03:18 PM
I know they love to sound all high and mighty with their statements but they have a valid point here. Motherwell didn't hold back with their thoughts last weekend.

Might not actually be entirely fanciful to think Dundee might lose points over this.

The Motherwell manager was pretty explicit on the radio that clubs that don't spend the money which they should on critical infrastructure like pitches are basically diverting those resources to playing staff instead, giving them an unfair advantage. I'm inclined to agree.

JohnM1875
10-04-2024, 03:19 PM
Joke that it's being played next Wednesday and not at a neutral venue tomorrow. Really poor stuff.

McD
10-04-2024, 03:20 PM
Their handling of their pitch this season is shambolic. Yeah it’s amusing that rangers are inconvenienced, but to have 4(?) matches postponed, whilst across the street Utd have had no such issues, and many junior and amateur matches will have gone ahead on the same match date, that’s a farce.

Hibs have replaced the pitch at significant cost. Hearts replaced theirs whilst preparing to build a new stand. Dundee not maintaining theirs on the basis of ‘moving at some point in the future’ is a joke.

Wonder what the media and spfl reactions would have been if we’d had to have this many matches postponed through our own negligence


Edit: linked BBC article says it’s 5 matches postponed for them, and that the spfl have initiated disciplinary steps against Dundee. Well wait and see how long that takes and how minuscule the slap on the wrist will be

tonyrougier123
10-04-2024, 03:22 PM
No one will convince me Dundee had any intention of making that pitch playable tonight,sheep game is massive for them Saturday gers game tonight last thing they needed.

BILLYHIBS
10-04-2024, 03:22 PM
Relegate Hearts

Ryan91
10-04-2024, 03:28 PM
Total farce. League should have forced Dundee to have a contingency plan in case the pitch was unplayable, behind closed doors at Tannadice or elsewhere if need be.

Steve20
10-04-2024, 03:30 PM
So the best case for us is that we end up cheering on the Orcs in the hope of scraping into the top six.

Lean times.

Too many people like Celtic on here for that to happen.

Bobby's Cinema
10-04-2024, 03:30 PM
There needs to be consequences when it's repeated surely.

Another secondary issue, call me cynical but is this just another example of other clubs being treated to different standards.
Motherwell forced to play on that joke of a pitch on Saturday but 'Tav' & Co won't be made to play in such conditions.

overdrive
10-04-2024, 03:31 PM
No one will convince me Dundee had any intention of making that pitch playable tonight,sheep game is massive for them Saturday gers game tonight last thing they needed.

I was a bit suspicious when their MD brushed aside talk of it being played elsewhere tomorrow and started talking about next week's weather. They totally wanted it played next week.

B.H.F.C
10-04-2024, 03:34 PM
I was a bit suspicious when their MD brushed aside talk of it being played elsewhere tomorrow and started talking about next week's weather. They totally wanted it played next week.

Yep, nice and fresh for the game that they really need to win on Saturday.

Biffo
10-04-2024, 03:38 PM
Surely there's potential here for Dundee to have an unfair sporting advantage going into their last game?

Obviously depending on their result against Abderdeen, they could be going into the game against the rangers knowing all they need is a point for a top 6 place, totally changes their approach and mentality for the game that should've been played well before then.

As an aside from that, a top flight team shouldn't be having 5 games postponed because of their pitch. I don't care who it is. It's amatuer at best!

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SHODAN
10-04-2024, 03:44 PM
If Dundee win on Saturday the split is persevered. Any other result and we (and Motherwell) are in with a shout of top 6.

J

Refs will be told to engineer the former situation at all costs.

Centre Hawf
10-04-2024, 03:47 PM
It's a total disgrace of a situation that it's been allowed to fester to this point in the season. There was serious concerns about their pitch for months and no one at the SPFL has done anything to push this along or make contingencies for it still being unplayable.

Sylar
10-04-2024, 03:47 PM
They've chosen to invest in their playing squad at the detriment of their own facilities, and so should be dealt with accordingly. Aye, like others, I find it amusing that Sevco fans are jumping up and down stamping their feet, but the fifth game in a season when their neighbours have had no such issues is telling...

There's no point in the SPFL fining Dundee - they're so far into the red at this point it'll just be another IOU in their books. If I was the SPFL, I'd award the 0-3 to Rangers and save the hassle, lack of fairness, and cost to everyone in trying to play it next week.

JimBHibees
10-04-2024, 03:48 PM
So the best case for us is that we end up cheering on the Orcs in the hope of scraping into the top six.

Lean times.

If best for Hibs want whoever helps that to win

Dashing Bob S
10-04-2024, 04:00 PM
Their handling of their pitch this season is shambolic. Yeah it’s amusing that rangers are inconvenienced, but to have 4(?) matches postponed, whilst across the street Utd have had no such issues, and many junior and amateur matches will have gone ahead on the same match date, that’s a farce.

Hibs have replaced the pitch at significant cost. Hearts replaced theirs whilst preparing to build a new stand. Dundee not maintaining theirs on the basis of ‘moving at some point in the future’ is a joke.

Wonder what the media and spfl reactions would have been if we’d had to have this many matches postponed through our own negligence


Edit: linked BBC article says it’s 5 matches postponed for them, and that the spfl have initiated disciplinary steps against Dundee. Well wait and see how long that takes and how minuscule the slap on the wrist will be

I have to confess I stopped reading after ‘it’s amusing that Rangers are inconvenienced.’

Hibbyradge
10-04-2024, 04:00 PM
I have to confess I stopped reading after ‘it’s amusing that Rangers are inconvenienced.’

:hilarious

gbhibby
10-04-2024, 04:01 PM
They've chosen to invest in their playing squad at the detriment of their own facilities, and so should be dealt with accordingly. Aye, like others, I find it amusing that Sevco fans are jumping up and down stamping their feet, but the fifth game in a season when their neighbours have had no such issues is telling...

There's no point in the SPFL fining Dundee - they're so far into the red at this point it'll just be another IOU in their books. If I was the SPFL, I'd award the 0-3 to Rangers and save the hassle, lack of fairness, and cost to everyone in trying to play it next week.
Sporting Integrity ?

SteveHFC
10-04-2024, 04:08 PM
This mess is in hands of spfl and dundee
Every game before split should be done and dusted by 4:45 on saturday
We now have a situation that benefits some clubs more than others.
Game should have been moved yesterday to enable it to be played tonight no matter the cost to Dundee.

JimBHibees
10-04-2024, 04:10 PM
This mess is in hands of spfl and dundee
Every game before split should be done and dusted by 4:45 on saturday
We now have a situation that benefits some clubs more than others.
Game should have been moved yesterday to enable it to be played tonight no matter the cost to Dundee.

Good point about moving the game yesterday to ensure final games start and end at the same time. Some chat about Airdries plastic pitch which would have made sense imo. Could have played behind close doors

Stuart93
10-04-2024, 04:13 PM
I really want to get annoyed at this being unfair

But we shouldn’t be scrapping against the likes of dundee for a place in the top 6 in the first place

It’s embarrassing for a top flight club though

joe breezy
10-04-2024, 04:15 PM
Hibs are pish but we like a moan about how unfair everything is


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SteveHFC
10-04-2024, 04:20 PM
If game had went on tonight Dundee would have been thumped 4-0 as too much at stake for rangers to misfire at this stage.

Now Dundee have a week off like rest of teams when they should have had a game tonight due to their own negligence

However if we hadn't chucked so many points away it wouldn't have been an issue

DaveF
10-04-2024, 04:26 PM
Dundee have engineered themselves a clear advantage through this. I really hope Aberdeen stuff them on Saturday and then the Huns stick 5 past them next week.

I don't t really care if it's us or Motherwell who get the top 6 place but it absolutely should not be Dundee.

SHODAN
10-04-2024, 04:27 PM
Can we stand up for ourselves and make a statement/demand the Motherwell game be moved too?

Trinity Hibee
10-04-2024, 04:30 PM
Dundee have engineered themselves a clear advantage through this. I really hope Aberdeen stuff them on Saturday and then the Huns stick 5 past them next week.

I don't t really care if it's us or Motherwell who get the top 6 place but it absolutely should not be Dundee.

I think that’s it. Complete negligence on their part has led to them gaining an advantage. Presume there is no precedent for this but is a points deduction out of the question? Whilst we find it funny, they are now causing issues for the rest of the league with teams not able to play fixtures and the top 6 now not being decided until next week.

Should the SPFL not have insisted this gets played elsewhere?

Callum_62
10-04-2024, 04:36 PM
5 games called off this season already - you only get 20 home games max!

25% of games called off (slightly more in reality at this point)

How many other teams have had games called.off?

How many has Dundee Utd that shares a street with Dens!

Absolutely farcical and points to it being solely to Dundee's negligence

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ALF TUPPER
10-04-2024, 04:36 PM
Points deduction for Dundee. The only option 😊

Paulie Walnuts
10-04-2024, 04:39 PM
Whilst it’s all a bit of a joke I’ll never not laugh at the Huns being raging.

Kato
10-04-2024, 04:45 PM
Relegate HeartsDemote them at least.

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JohnM1875
10-04-2024, 04:46 PM
Points deduction for Dundee. The only option 😊

Not really about a points deduction. All it would likely be would be a win awarded to Rangers, they'll lose that fixture anyway.

They were supposed to play Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday and now they don't have to.

007
10-04-2024, 04:52 PM
If Dundee win on Saturday the split is persevered. Any other result and we (and Motherwell) are in with a shout of top 6.

J

Arguably not because they've now gained an advantage in that they're now not having to play Aberdeen away 3 days after playing Rangers.

Aldo
10-04-2024, 05:03 PM
Climate changes fault as they can prove rainfall is at an all time high. They’ve done everything possible to put the game on.

Well this was the comments of a Dundee spokesman’s earlier.

Percy Vere
10-04-2024, 05:04 PM
Pitch should be fit for purpose. Points deduction.
RFC have been up there since yesterday, poor souls.
But it is ridiculous.

shamo9
10-04-2024, 05:12 PM
They should be getting fined, docked points or forced to play at a neutral venue. It's shambolic for a top flight club to be so poorly run that they can't fulfill their obligations time and time again.

The fact they're gaining a sporting advantage due to their own incompetence should be considered when deciding their punishment.

Not In The Know
10-04-2024, 05:22 PM
Total farce. League should have forced Dundee to have a contingency plan in case the pitch was unplayable, behind closed doors at Tannadice or elsewhere if need be.


This has been on the cards for at least a week. An alternate venue / over the road should have been available. As per a shambles.

green day
10-04-2024, 05:23 PM
Just for all those suggesting its all Dundees fault - they do have a drainage problem due to a burn running under that corner of Dens, but the SPFL had it in their powers to request a change of venue - and that should have been discussed last week.

Leaving the tears and snotters till the matchday is amateur from the SPFL.

hibees 7062
10-04-2024, 05:30 PM
Are they ever going to move to that proposed new ground at Camperdown Park?

Utd knocked it back at the last minute

KeithTheHibby
10-04-2024, 05:33 PM
Why was the game not played last week?

JohnM1875
10-04-2024, 05:35 PM
Why was the game not played last week?

You know why. The old firm game was this weekend. Can't have the huns playing midweek before it.

MWHIBBIES
10-04-2024, 05:36 PM
Just for all those suggesting its all Dundees fault - they do have a drainage problem due to a burn running under that corner of Dens, but the SPFL had it in their powers to request a change of venue - and that should have been discussed last week.

Leaving the tears and snotters till the matchday is amateur from the SPFL.

How does the burn affect them?

gbhibby
10-04-2024, 05:42 PM
How does the burn affect them?

They're up to their knees in Burn Water.

gbhibby
10-04-2024, 05:51 PM
These things happen, the farmers are complaining about the amount of rain stop moaning about it. I am sure Dundee are not happy and will probably spend money in the close season on the pitch. Motherwell had problems a few seasons ago until we can control the weather just get on with it

Jim44
10-04-2024, 05:58 PM
From the Huns’ statement:

RANGERS has written to the SPFL outlining its position following today’s further postponement of the Dundee Scottish Premiership fixture.


Bit pedantic, but, given their paranoia with making statements, nothing wrong with picking holes in the quality of their outbursts. Unless they had written ‘Rangers FC’’, the plural term of the verb should apply. Or, it might be a subliminal admission of their true name, ‘THE RANGERS’. :greengrin

On reflection, their grammar might prove to be correct, but what the hell, any criticism of these sods is fair game in my book.

green day
10-04-2024, 05:58 PM
How does the burn affect them?

I believe that when there is a deluge, the burn (which is underground) cant handle the volume and the water has to go somewhere.

I used to work in Safeways at Cameron Toll as a nipper, and similar happened there a few times, flooded the centre.

Carheenlea
10-04-2024, 05:59 PM
I wonder if there might end up being a possibility of our game on Saturday being moved to the same time as the Dundee/Rangers game next midweek?

K-Zazu
10-04-2024, 06:01 PM
Hearts could benefit from this, as it’s only a few days before the semi final.

greenginger
10-04-2024, 06:03 PM
when are the first post split matches due to be played ?

JimBHibees
10-04-2024, 06:11 PM
when are the first post split matches due to be played ?

Two weeks on Saturday i think. Scottish cup semis next weekend

B.H.F.C
10-04-2024, 06:11 PM
I wonder if there might end up being a possibility of our game on Saturday being moved to the same time as the Dundee/Rangers game next midweek?

No chance IMO. They’re not going to do that when it could end up being an irrelevance by then anyway.

Carheenlea
10-04-2024, 06:23 PM
No chance IMO. They’re not going to do that when it could end up being an irrelevance by then anyway.

It could well be an irrelevance after Saturday, but maybe provision needs to be made in case of the game being wholly relevant to both ourselves and Motherwell.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Hibs and Motherwell haven’t already been in discussion today following the Dundee postponement to look at exactly where we stand with this.

Waiting to see what happens on Saturday obviously can’t be one of the options.

McD
10-04-2024, 06:24 PM
I have to confess I stopped reading after ‘it’s amusing that Rangers are inconvenienced.’



Aye hilarious Bob, meantime Hibs are disadvantaged by this, as are Motherwell, whilst the club who have taken the piss now get the benefit of having knowledge of what they need to get into the top 6.

Dundee have gamed the system on multiple levels, made the league look even more of a mockery than normal, and their punishment for that is… getting an advantage over their nearest rivals. But yeah, let’s think it’s funny because it’s rangers who are inconvenienced.

greenginger
10-04-2024, 06:27 PM
Not only is this shambles helping Dundee secure top six , it’s giving the Gorgie mob an advantage against Rangers in their semi final .

JohnM1875
10-04-2024, 06:29 PM
Not only is this shambles helping Dundee secure top six , it’s giving the Gorgie mob an advantage against Rangers in their semi final .

The Huns could play the night before the semi final and still pump Hearts. Not worried about that at all.

Billy Whizz
10-04-2024, 06:34 PM
It could well be an irrelevance after Saturday, but maybe provision needs to be made in case of the game being wholly relevant to both ourselves and Motherwell.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Hibs and Motherwell haven’t already been in discussion today following the Dundee postponement to look at exactly where we stand with this.

Waiting to see what happens on Saturday obviously can’t be one of the options.

We should play the weekend after, as we both have a free Saturday

B.H.F.C
10-04-2024, 06:36 PM
It could well be an irrelevance after Saturday, but maybe provision needs to be made in case of the game being wholly relevant to both ourselves and Motherwell.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Hibs and Motherwell haven’t already been in discussion today following the Dundee postponement to look at exactly where we stand with this.

Waiting to see what happens on Saturday obviously can’t be one of the options.

I don’t think either will be overly concerned about it.

Just play the game and get our own job done for me.

MrRobot
10-04-2024, 06:40 PM
Absolute shambles of a club.

wookie70
10-04-2024, 06:40 PM
I can't understand why they didn't have Tannadice ready as a last minute alternative. Have a pitch inspection early morning and if any doubt move the game 100 metres or so. It has a bigger capacity so no issues there and Dundee are punished by having to pay for the hire of their rivals ground. They have had plenty time to make alternative arrangements and for me you can't gain a sporting advantage for a mess of your own making. They should have a have points deduction and the game can be played next week. Even then they could win and be top 6 so there is still a potential advantage.

Hibernian Verse
10-04-2024, 06:40 PM
Hibs have made their feelings clear to the SPFL according to the Record on X.

cubehindthegoal
10-04-2024, 06:43 PM
Climate changes fault as they can prove rainfall is at an all time high. They’ve done everything possible to put the game on.

Well this was the comments of a Dundee spokesman’s earlier.

So true, I remember the climate change walking past Tannadice to Dens before … … unnatural it was … so lucky Dundee Utd are, their stadium being in a different climate altogether from Dundee.

Hibbyradge
10-04-2024, 06:46 PM
Aye hilarious Bob, meantime Hibs are disadvantaged by this, as are Motherwell, whilst the club who have taken the piss now get the benefit of having knowledge of what they need to get into the top 6.

Dundee have gamed the system on multiple levels, made the league look even more of a mockery than normal, and their punishment for that is… getting an advantage over their nearest rivals. But yeah, let’s think it’s funny because it’s rangers who are inconvenienced.

There's a chance that Bob was making a joke. :dunno:

cubehindthegoal
10-04-2024, 06:47 PM
Just for all those suggesting its all Dundees fault - they do have a drainage problem due to a burn running under that corner of Dens, but the SPFL had it in their powers to request a change of venue - and that should have been discussed last week.

Leaving the tears and snotters till the matchday is amateur from the SPFL.

How long has the burn been running there ?

Trinity Hibee
10-04-2024, 06:47 PM
Hibs have made their feelings clear to the SPFL according to the Record on X.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/dundee-vs-rangers-call-sees-32558753

Hibbyradge
10-04-2024, 06:47 PM
Hibs have made their feelings clear to the SPFL according to the Record on X.

Good.

Paul1642
10-04-2024, 06:57 PM
At first I felt slightly sorry for Dundee as it’s been wet as hell this last few weeks but then I stepped back and realised that

1. Two clubs not completing there final pre split fixture at the same time as the rest is completely unacceptable.

2. No other games in the SPFL, Scottish Championship, or English Prem, Champ or League 1 has been called off over the last few days let alone a top division game. Barrow are the next largest club to have a waterlogged pitch this week. Pathetic.

Large fine needed IMO.

McD
10-04-2024, 06:57 PM
There's a chance that Bob was making a joke. :dunno:



I’m sure he was, would the same joke have been made if it was us playing Dundee and been postponed for the second time? I doubt it.

Amusing as it may be that it’s rangers (as I said in my original post), there’s bigger elements to this. That it’s rangers really shouldn’t be a focus, but because it’s them that becomes the main thing about this for some. I couldn’t care less who’s inconvenienced, I do care that one club have neglected their pitch (and had a bigger playing budget because of that), and now have manipulated when they get to play their final game before the split, by not managing their pitch maintenance like every other club in Scotland has done, including junior and amateur sides.

SHODAN
10-04-2024, 07:04 PM
Any team that doesn't have a pitch capable of withstanding rain shouldn't be in the top division.

How has the same issue with had with Motherwell SIXTEEN YEARS AGO not been addressed?

Brooster
10-04-2024, 07:06 PM
I don’t think either will be overly concerned about it.

Just play the game and get our own job done for me.

I don't think you get it.

ancient hibee
10-04-2024, 07:07 PM
From the Huns’ statement:

RANGERS has written to the SPFL outlining its position following today’s further postponement of the Dundee Scottish Premiership fixture.


Bit pedantic, but, given their paranoia with making statements, nothing wrong with picking holes in the quality of their outbursts. Unless they had written ‘Rangers FC’’, the plural term of the verb should apply. Or, it might be a subliminal admission of their true name, ‘THE RANGERS’. :greengrin

On reflection, their grammar might prove to be correct, but what the hell, any criticism of these sods is fair game in my book.
Rangers is an abbreviation of Rangers FC so therefore the singular is correct so your reflection is spot on.:greengrin

B.H.F.C
10-04-2024, 07:11 PM
I don't think you get it.

Na, I think I do. But if I feel like I’m toiling at any point then I’ll let you know.

Is it right? Naw. Do I think the clubs will be happy about it? Naw, but I don’t think it’ll go any further than them saying that. And I don’t think there is any chance of our game moving.

Spudster
10-04-2024, 07:16 PM
I wonder if there might end up being a possibility of our game on Saturday being moved to the same time as the Dundee/Rangers game next midweek?

It should be. I remember 2014/15 Rangers had their last game of the season moved to the Sunday for TV whilst we played on the Saturday with both teams able to finish second and play two less games in the playoffs. Remember the authorities didn’t understand the problem for quite a few days before backtracking.

chrisski33
10-04-2024, 07:18 PM
Tbh we should have made sure we got top 6 by winning games rather than stressing about s***dee.

Brooster
10-04-2024, 07:21 PM
Na, I think I do. But if I feel like I’m toiling at any point then I’ll let you know.

Is it right? Naw. Do I think the clubs will be happy about it? Naw, but I don’t think it’ll go any further than them saying that. And I don’t think there is any chance of our game moving.

You don't need to let me know cheers.

LunasBoots
10-04-2024, 07:43 PM
All clubs should finish before the split at the same time, nobody should be getting any kind of advantage, not on for me.

KeithTheHibby
10-04-2024, 07:45 PM
You know why. The old firm game was this weekend. Can't have the huns playing midweek before it.

Who decides when games are replayed?? Surely with the **** show that Dens Park has been this season they would have insisted the game was played last Wednesday? I get the huns would have preferred the game to go ahead this week however clubs don’t decide when fixtures are surely? The water is so muddy around this whole situation.

Irish_Steve
10-04-2024, 07:45 PM
The only upside of the whole thing is that the other team was Rangers and they have the clout to do something about it, which is equally sad in itself.

Allyg69
10-04-2024, 07:53 PM
Chances are that lot will beat Dundee anyway. Saturdays results will be the deciding factor.

CMac1988
10-04-2024, 07:56 PM
Can't stand Rangers but Dundee should be hammered. Won't happen but they should be docked points and fined. The league's already an embarrassment at times. Crap like astro pitches and not being able to maintain your stadium/grass pitch to a suitable standard shouldn't even be a debate in the top league.

BoomtownHibees
10-04-2024, 07:56 PM
We should play the weekend after, as we both have a free Saturday

Who should play the following week? Hibs and Motherwell?

Does that no defeat the purpose of everyone playing their last games at the same time?

Always thought these games were scheduled for the same day and time to prevent exactly this happening however there is a game scheduled for Sunday so not sure it’s even a thing

Bostonhibby
10-04-2024, 07:58 PM
I have absolutely no sympathy for the dog's dinner that is Dundee's pathetic attempt at maintaining a top flight pitch.

However, surely the appropriate response to the sevco/huns statement is that institutionalised sectarianism and negligently breaking the rules over payments to players for nearly a decade which resulted in the now defunct Glasgow rangers voluntarily liquidating themselves is an event more worthy of a pompous tight ersed statement than mumping about somewhere being really damp in a damp part of the world?

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Billy Whizz
10-04-2024, 07:59 PM
Who should play the following week? Hibs and Motherwell?

Does that no defeat the purpose of everyone playing their last games at the same time?

Always thought these games were scheduled for the same day and time to prevent exactly this happening however there is a game scheduled for Sunday so not sure it’s even a thing

It was tongue in cheek
Anyway why was Ross County v Rangers been allowed to be moved to this Sunday for Sky
Livingston and St Johnstone play on the Saturday

BoomtownHibees
10-04-2024, 08:03 PM
It was tongue in cheek
Anyway why was Ross County v Rangers been allowed to be moved to this Sunday for Sky
Livingston and St Johnstone play on the Saturday

It’s pretty lucky that it doesn’t really matter with Ross County playing the Sunday, it’s not as if it’s the last game of the season. Would have been different if they were in the hunt for the top 6 then we would have been in this same scenario as Dundee

B.H.F.C
10-04-2024, 08:16 PM
It was tongue in cheek
Anyway why was Ross County v Rangers been allowed to be moved to this Sunday for Sky
Livingston and St Johnstone play on the Saturday

Having a look back over the last few years and it’s not been the case that everyone plays at the same time on the last day before the split. Always do on the last day of the season, bottom six one day and top six the next day, but not prior to the split.

Winston Ingram
10-04-2024, 08:18 PM
At first I felt slightly sorry for Dundee as it’s been wet as hell this last few weeks but then I stepped back and realised that

1. Two clubs not completing there final pre split fixture at the same time as the rest is completely unacceptable.

2. No other games in the SPFL, Scottish Championship, or English Prem, Champ or League 1 has been called off over the last few days let alone a top division game. Barrow are the next largest club to have a waterlogged pitch this week. Pathetic.

Large fine needed IMO.

From what I understand, during covid, Dundee punted a load of their ground staff and kept on 2, a father and son and cut investment in the pitch.

The pair of them were suspended in Jan, rumours in Dundee were because of the state of the pitch but their argument was that they weren’t getting enough support/investment.

No idea who’s looking after it now, but Motherwell called out their lack of investment in their playing surface at the weekend and ye only need to cross the road and see how much better the Tannadice pitch is.

To me this has all been caused by Dundee scrimping and they deserve any punishment that comes there way.

GreenCastle
10-04-2024, 08:21 PM
Hearts are probably getting an advantage as Rangers play midweek before the semi final on the Saturday.

It feels like today’s game messes with fans again…Dundee and Rangers fans - plus Hibs and Motherwell as they won’t know whether to be happy Saturday if Dundee lose to Dons.

Typical Scottish football shambles - just not a good look for sponsors and tv deals when we can’t even get games on.

gbhibby
10-04-2024, 08:26 PM
Tbh we should have made sure we got top 6 by winning games rather than stressing about whether ****dee.

100% this.

Moulin Yarns
10-04-2024, 08:36 PM
Climate changes fault as they can prove rainfall is at an all time high. They’ve done everything possible to put the game on.

Well this was the comments of a Dundee spokesman’s earlier.

I heard that the Tay was lapping at the doors at the away end 🤣

Aldo
10-04-2024, 08:38 PM
I heard that the Tay was lapping at the doors at the away end [emoji1787]

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cubehindthegoal
10-04-2024, 09:58 PM
Chances are that lot will beat Dundee anyway. Saturdays results will be the deciding factor.

Chances are. Nice to have that wee back up for Dundee now though psychologically … this order and timing they would (sensibly) choose if they could … their players will be up for it as much as they can be if it doesn’t go their way … and they’ll know what they have to do, which is crucial, whatever that means … that’s simply a wrong state of affairs … last game now for them … it does matter … it’s why we are so firm on last games generally being on the same day and time in tournaments … however … since when did our viewpoint - Hibs that is - ever matter to the powers that be … they’re keeping the focus all away from any dundee advantage … as they know they are wrong letting this timing happen …totally against “fair play”

Keepthefaith
10-04-2024, 10:07 PM
Chances are. Nice to have that wee back up for Dundee now though psychologically … this order and timing they would (sensibly) choose if they could … their players will be up for it as much as they can be if it doesn’t go their way … and they’ll know what they have to do, which is crucial, whatever that means … that’s simply a wrong state of affairs … last game now for them … it does matter … it’s why we are so firm on last games generally being on the same day and time in tournaments … however … since when did our viewpoint - Hibs that is - ever matter to the powers that be … they’re keeping the focus all away from any dundee advantage … as they know they are wrong letting this timing happen …totally against “fair play”

when the last game was postponed they should have agreed a contingency at that time which ensured the game was played before the split. no reason to wait to see if was on before trying to come up with a plan. sporting integrity has definitely been impacted. can't imagine Celtic will be too happy either as if Dundee know they are top 6, will they put everything in against rangers know that their key results would be v st Mirren / kiliie and hearts post split?

the whole thing absolutely reeks

andrew_dundee
10-04-2024, 11:17 PM
This has happened too many times with Dundee. They should be docked points for messing everyone around again and having pitch that isn't fit for purpose. 6 points would seem fair...

Bostonhibby
10-04-2024, 11:34 PM
This has happened too many times with Dundee. They should be docked points for messing everyone around again and having pitch that isn't fit for purpose. 6 points would seem fair...And a couple of penalties to the huns, not actually having players on the pitch at the time should not get in the way of "tradition".

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Tambo
11-04-2024, 06:17 AM
Just play the game down the astros and get it over with, how many more postponements could there be in the future.

I hope they get told play somewhere else if the pitch is not up to it.

Winston Ingram
11-04-2024, 06:19 AM
when the last game was postponed they should have agreed a contingency at that time which ensured the game was played before the split. no reason to wait to see if was on before trying to come up with a plan. sporting integrity has definitely been impacted. can't imagine Celtic will be too happy either as if Dundee know they are top 6, will they put everything in against rangers know that their key results would be v st Mirren / kiliie and hearts post split?

the whole thing absolutely reeks

They should've done but the game should've been played last Wednesday and obviously no one in the Weegia is questioning that.:hmmm:

MWHIBBIES
11-04-2024, 06:23 AM
Really don't see the big deal. Dundee aren't getting anything off Rangers in any scenario so why are we worried?

green day
11-04-2024, 06:26 AM
Really don't see the big deal. Dundee aren't getting anything off Rangers in any scenario so why are we worried?

Agreed - even if Dundee "play for a draw" Rangers are a pretty potent force going forward and will take the points.

And, as others have pointed out, perhaps if we hadnt blown it v the giants of Scottish football Ross County and St Johnstone in the last few weeks we wouldnt be worrying.

If we dont make top 6 it will be our own fault.

Stairway 2 7
11-04-2024, 06:27 AM
After their 3rd postponed game in a season last year Coventry were given a 5 point suspended deduction, if they had another postponement that season it would be triggered

"Coventry City has received a five-point deduction to be suspended for the remainder of the 2022/2023 and 2023/2024 season, after the Club acknowledged that it had breached EFL Regulations relating to pitch maintenance, which led to the postponement of August’s scheduled fixtures against Rotherham United, Wigan Athletic and Huddersfield Town.

Coventry City will also pay compensation to the away Clubs along with associated costs of the EFL investigation"

DH1875
11-04-2024, 06:48 AM
There were games played in the Dundee amateur league last. Played at Riverside Park which is right next to the Tay.

Since452
11-04-2024, 06:57 AM
It a waterlogged pitch. Nobody has died. Whole thing is decent comedy value to be honest. Our job remains the same.

JimBHibees
11-04-2024, 07:02 AM
It a waterlogged pitch. Nobody has died. Whole thing is decent comedy value to be honest. Our job remains the same.

Not really in terms if Dundee were to lose Saturday a point would get us top 6.

StevieT
11-04-2024, 07:02 AM
They should've done but the game should've been played last Wednesday and obviously no one in the Weegia is questioning that.:hmmm:

That's the real point in all of this. Rangers ran the risk of injury and suspension ahead of the Celtic game, as well as giving Celtic longer to rest or prepare. Only one other team would get away with this.

LewysGot2
11-04-2024, 07:07 AM
Really don't see the big deal. Dundee aren't getting anything off Rangers in any scenario so why are we worried?

Yeah,all they have done is poke the bear - several times. They will get a doing off them.

Think possibly folk are most frustrated by a club not fulfilling their regulatory obligations re state of their pitch whilst spending well enough on squad/management to be possibly top 6 in first year after promotion whilst most other clubs have either improved their pitches or at least done more than Dundee. I speak as a hater of synthetic keech at RP and TMA.

The table on Saturday night will be fine post split arrangements. For once, the Govan mob being involved is in our interest. Would feel different if it were Livi they were mucking about

007
11-04-2024, 07:43 AM
Really don't see the big deal. Dundee aren't getting anything off Rangers in any scenario so why are we worried?

They are getting a rest before the more important game at Pittodrie.

Nicho87
11-04-2024, 07:47 AM
Not even arsed about this

More concerned of our failings the fact we won’t get in the top 6 is embarrassing in itself

Couldn’t care less about dundees poor quality pitch

Donegal Hibby
11-04-2024, 07:58 AM
Really don't see the big deal. Dundee aren't getting anything off Rangers in any scenario so why are we worried?

Its meaning the will probably be abit fresher for the Aberdeen game and wither anyone thinks they aren't getting anything against Sevco it's giving them the advantage in what they might need to do after the rest of us is finished. Its wrong full stop imo .

Hibernian Verse
11-04-2024, 08:10 AM
Not even arsed about this

More concerned of our failings the fact we won’t get in the top 6 is embarrassing in itself

Couldn’t care less about dundees poor quality pitch

If they got points deducted and you got to the mental away game in Albania would you be concerned about last season?

Nicho87
11-04-2024, 08:15 AM
If they got points deducted and you got to the mental away game in Albania would you be concerned about last season?

We can’t beat st Johnstone home or away in the last two attempts

Europe won’t be happening Dundee points deduction or not

Trinity Hibee
11-04-2024, 08:21 AM
Not even arsed about this

More concerned of our failings the fact we won’t get in the top 6 is embarrassing in itself

Couldn’t care less about dundees poor quality pitch

Agree we have failed ourselves however there is a clear sporting advantage by knowing where you stand after your competitors have played which doesn’t happen in any tournament. Particularly not if it’s a situation come about of your own failings. What’s to stop someone else doing similar going forward if Dundee aren’t punished here?

Hibernian Verse
11-04-2024, 08:22 AM
We can’t beat st Johnstone home or away in the last two attempts

Europe won’t be happening Dundee points deduction or not

I assume you've been watching Scottish Football long enough to know that despite how sure you are of anything, the opposite can happen.

Nicho87
11-04-2024, 08:26 AM
I assume you've been watching Scottish Football long enough to know that despite how sure you are of anything, the opposite can happen.

Just fed up of hibs just now.

No offence intended.

Hibernian Verse
11-04-2024, 08:29 AM
Just fed up of hibs just now.

No offence intended.

None taken, just trying to cheer you up :aok:

Since452
11-04-2024, 08:50 AM
Not even arsed about this

More concerned of our failings the fact we won’t get in the top 6 is embarrassing in itself

Couldn’t care less about dundees poor quality pitch

What's more concerning is that a club with a fancy hybrid pitch and cracking facilities can't finish above (potentially) a club with a tattie field, constantly waterlogged pitch and crumbling stadium.

Carheenlea
11-04-2024, 08:57 AM
What's more concerning is that a club with a fancy hybrid pitch and cracking facilities can't finish above (potentially) a club with a tattie field, constantly waterlogged pitch and crumbling stadium.

Can’t argue with that.

Moulin Yarns
11-04-2024, 09:15 AM
Does anyone know what the possible disciplinary action against Dundee is? I doubt if there is anything in the SPFL or sfa rules.

Rick Rude
11-04-2024, 09:35 AM
What's more concerning is that a club with a fancy hybrid pitch and cracking facilities can't finish above (potentially) a club with a tattie field, constantly waterlogged pitch and crumbling stadium.

Maybe instead of spending money on a pitch and facilities we could have settled for a tattie field, crumbling stadium and spent the money on players like they have and we would be better.

jeffers
11-04-2024, 09:45 AM
What's more concerning is that a club with a fancy hybrid pitch and cracking facilities can't finish above (potentially) a club with a tattie field, constantly waterlogged pitch and crumbling stadium.

:agree: Then add in our spend on players being much higher than Dundee’s. As other posters have said if we’d done our job in previous games we wouldn’t be giving Dundee or their pitch a second thought. It’s entirely on us.

tamig
11-04-2024, 09:48 AM
Does anyone know what the possible disciplinary action against Dundee is? I doubt if there is anything in the SPFL or sfa rules.

Based on previous, I’m sure the authorities in this country will just come up with something. I’d be surprised if there was anything off the shelf that would cover it. The usual incompetence.

Trinity Hibee
11-04-2024, 09:50 AM
Based on previous, I’m sure the authorities in this country will just come up with something. I’d be surprised if there was anything off the shelf that would cover it. The usual incompetence.

100% this

snedzuk
11-04-2024, 10:25 AM
Does anyone know what the possible disciplinary action against Dundee is? I doubt if there is anything in the SPFL or sfa rules.

They'll be made to stay in Dundee.

jeffers
11-04-2024, 10:28 AM
Does anyone know what the possible disciplinary action against Dundee is? I doubt if there is anything in the SPFL or sfa rules.

Penalty to Rangers would be my guess.

JimBHibees
11-04-2024, 10:30 AM
Its meaning the will probably be abit fresher for the Aberdeen game and wither anyone thinks they aren't getting anything against Sevco it's giving them the advantage in what they might need to do after the rest of us is finished. Its wrong full stop imo .

Agree could affect how they play that game if a point needed ultra defensive if a win needed less so. It is an advantage no doubt irrespective of who they are playing

Smartie
11-04-2024, 10:42 AM
I’m pretty sure the very definition of “cognitive dissonance” is rooting against Dundee FC in a bun fight between them and the huns.

Saint Hibee
11-04-2024, 11:38 AM
Penalty to Rangers would be my guess.

This would be funny but for the fact that it's probably true.

SHODAN
11-04-2024, 11:50 AM
They'll be made to stay in Dundee.

Haha Dundee is bad

04Sauzee
11-04-2024, 12:25 PM
Dundee Utd taking the p***

https://twitter.com/dundeeunitedfc/status/1778392556558278910?t=4Yx2UfyLcaRpPKeWy6zHRw&s=19

Moulin Yarns
11-04-2024, 12:26 PM
Spfl rules J. 16 list all the possible sanctions.

Trinity Hibee
11-04-2024, 01:25 PM
Dundee Utd taking the p***

https://twitter.com/dundeeunitedfc/status/1778392556558278910?t=4Yx2UfyLcaRpPKeWy6zHRw&s=19

Had to be done

Mcbizz1998
11-04-2024, 01:25 PM
I’m pretty sure the very definition of “cognitive dissonance” is rooting against Dundee FC in a bun fight between them and the huns.

how did this get through the censorship? Are we allowed to say hun again?! Or just huns?

Mcbizz1998
11-04-2024, 01:25 PM
how did this get through the censorship? Are we allowed to say hun again?! Or just huns?


oh we are allowed!! Excellent, huns back to being huns!!!

Winston Ingram
11-04-2024, 01:52 PM
Dundee Utd taking the p***

https://twitter.com/dundeeunitedfc/status/1778392556558278910?t=4Yx2UfyLcaRpPKeWy6zHRw&s=19

Top trolling:greengrin

jeffers
11-04-2024, 01:56 PM
oh we are allowed!! Excellent, huns back to being huns!!!

The ludicrous decision that it was sectarian was reversed in court so we can go back to referring to them as Huns.

Bostonhibby
11-04-2024, 01:57 PM
The ludicrous decision that it was sectarian was reversed in court so we can go back to referring to them as Huns.Sevconian hun social misfits does it for me

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Hibiza
11-04-2024, 02:10 PM
Dundee v Rangers game postponed . Possibly a pnt deduction.l

Moulin Yarns
11-04-2024, 02:52 PM
Dundee v Rangers game postponed . Possibly a pnt deduction.l

Precedent with Motherwell in 2010, £50k fine, £5k now £45k suspended. The difference is that Motherwell made pitch improvements.

Moulin Yarns
11-04-2024, 02:53 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68790829

Can't see there being a good atmosphere.

JimBHibees
11-04-2024, 03:06 PM
Had to be done

That is brilliant 🤩

chrisski33
11-04-2024, 06:32 PM
After all the fuss i bet Motherwell beat us and Dundee to 6th place!

Eyrie
11-04-2024, 06:58 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68790829

Can't see there being a good atmosphere.

I'd be delighted if the Huns played on Mars, but only on condition they weren't allowed to come back.

Hibby70
11-04-2024, 07:36 PM
I'd be delighted if the Huns played on Mars, but only on condition they weren't allowed to come back.

"Up to their knees in Martian blood"

Skol
11-04-2024, 07:44 PM
"Up to their knees in Martian blood"

…..or Dundee mud.

Since452
11-04-2024, 08:00 PM
After all the fuss i bet Motherwell beat us and Dundee to 6th place!

Hibs and Dundee are like two bald men fighting over a comb and the man with the Rasta will end up sneaking in and taking it

Donegal Hibby
11-04-2024, 08:31 PM
" The Sun " saying SFA looking at alternative venues if the game can't go ahead on Wednesday with McDiarmid park , Tynecastle and Easter Road all being considered .

chrisski33
11-04-2024, 08:31 PM
Hibs and Dundee are like two bald men fighting over a comb and the man with the Rasta will end up sneaking in and taking it

Reckon thats whats happening!

007
11-04-2024, 09:06 PM
" The Sun " saying SFA looking at alternative venues if the game can't go ahead on Wednesday with McDiarmid park , Tynecastle and Easter Road all being considered .

This contingency plan should been in place for yesterday. Actually the game should have been scheduled for last week, so what if Rangers were playing Celtic 4 days later. In fact they could have played last Tuesday and Rangers would have had 5 days before the Celtic game.

gbhibby
11-04-2024, 10:12 PM
If the game goes ahead will it be titled Pitch Perfect 3.

gbhibby
11-04-2024, 10:16 PM
I'd be delighted if the Huns played on Mars, but only on condition they weren't allowed to come back.https://youtu.be/z4sAd_rgYdE?si=xgu-PUxoOJ5-pl39
These guys are no happy. At least they will smash them

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Pagan Hibernia
11-04-2024, 11:02 PM
" The Sun " saying SFA looking at alternative venues if the game can't go ahead on Wednesday with McDiarmid park , Tynecastle and Easter Road all being considered .

Eughh, I don't want that lot in our ground any more than they absolutely have to be

gbhibby
11-04-2024, 11:12 PM
" The Sun " saying SFA looking at alternative venues if the game can't go ahead on Wednesday with McDiarmid park , Tynecastle and Easter Road all being considered .
You can't do that surely as it sets a dangerous precedent don't know if the rules allow that.

JohnM1875
12-04-2024, 06:28 AM
From the Courier;

“Was April 3 a viable date?

It’s understood a key SPFL leadership figure recommended the postponed fixture be played at the first available midweek date, April 3, in keeping with this individual’s default approach to such situations.

They were also mindful of the upcoming Premiership split.

However, at the request of one of the two clubs involved, the issue was escalated to SPFL board level where it was then decided the game would take place on Wednesday, April 10.”

Not really a shock I suppose.

CentreLine
12-04-2024, 08:01 AM
From the Courier;

“Was April 3 a viable date?

It’s understood a key SPFL leadership figure recommended the postponed fixture be played at the first available midweek date, April 3, in keeping with this individual’s default approach to such situations.

They were also mindful of the upcoming Premiership split.

However, at the request of one of the two clubs involved, the issue was escalated to SPFL board level where it was then decided the game would take place on Wednesday, April 10.”

Not really a shock I suppose.

Well that’s the Dundee defence right there. Should have been played a week earlier but you asked fur a postponement to gain an advantage elsewhere. Why is the media not covering that bit?

JimBHibees
12-04-2024, 08:02 AM
From the Courier;

“Was April 3 a viable date?

It’s understood a key SPFL leadership figure recommended the postponed fixture be played at the first available midweek date, April 3, in keeping with this individual’s default approach to such situations.

They were also mindful of the upcoming Premiership split.

However, at the request of one of the two clubs involved, the issue was escalated to SPFL board level where it was then decided the game would take place on Wednesday, April 10.”

Not really a shock I suppose.

Quelle surprise though given the huge amount of rain last week game would have been off anyway

hibeelin
12-04-2024, 08:53 AM
Eughh, I don't want that lot in our ground any more than they absolutely have to be

☝️ 💯

Centre Hawf
12-04-2024, 09:04 AM
Well that’s the Dundee defence right there. Should have been played a week earlier but you asked fur a postponement to gain an advantage elsewhere. Why is the media not covering that bit?

Jim White (I know) I saying that the club might have actually been Dundee who told SPFL the pitch wouldn't be playable then.

JimBHibees
12-04-2024, 10:00 AM
Jim White (I know) I saying that the club might have actually been Dundee who told SPFL the pitch wouldn't be playable then.

Not sure Dundee would have allowed the Courier to print what they have if that was the case. No doubt Rangers using Souness links to White at talksport to suggest that. Don't believe it for a minute.

Centre Hawf
12-04-2024, 10:10 AM
Not sure Dundee would have allowed the Courier to print what they have if that was the case. No doubt Rangers using Souness links to White at talksport to suggest that. Don't believe it for a minute.

Why would Dundee have to allow the Courier to print that if it's the truth? If anything it probably indicates that Dundee haven't confirmed or initially denied that it was them, which if it was Rangers you'd think they'd be quick to tell the Courier.

JimBHibees
12-04-2024, 10:12 AM
Why would Dundee have to allow the Courier to print that if it's the truth? If anything it probably indicates that Dundee haven't confirmed or initially denied that it was them, which if it was Rangers you'd think they'd be quick to tell the Courier.

Was just thinking Dundee would have agreed to give their side to the Courier journos kind of like we will do at times with our local outlet

Moulin Yarns
12-04-2024, 10:13 AM
Eughh, I don't want that lot in our ground any more than they absolutely have to be

I don't think any fans could be there as there wouldn't be time for tickets to be sold.

Centre Hawf
12-04-2024, 10:17 AM
Was just thinking Dundee would have agreed to give their side to the Courier journos kind of like we will do at times with our local outlet

I think the fact they’ve not been given Rangers as a confirmed name for the club in question from Dundee suggests there may be truth to Whites claims. Could be wrong though.

JimBHibees
12-04-2024, 10:34 AM
I think the fact they’ve not been given Rangers as a confirmed name for the club in question from Dundee suggests there may be truth to Whites claims. Could be wrong though.

Fair enough my default is to never trust anything said remotely positive about Rangers 😄

Hibiza
12-04-2024, 05:11 PM
I'd be delighted if the Huns played on Mars, but only on condition they weren't allowed to come back.

😁

Glory Lurker
12-04-2024, 08:02 PM
Not sure about the Mars thing.

Seems mad that Clement would be happy to travel two years to play a game, rather than wait a few days. And then two years back. He's not thought this through.

And then you've got the gravitational differences. Gravity on Mars is about 1/3 what it is on Earth. That means when their players dive in the box, it will be three times more ridiculous than on Earth. Even VAR won't be mad enough to fall for that? And it'll take about three minutes for the film to get to VAR in the first place, and the same for the decision to come back.

Honestly, I wonder about our managers sometimes.