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Donegal Hibby
28-03-2024, 09:08 AM
Looks like we are going to have talks with both players at the end of the season about keeping them even if our chances are probably pretty slim .
With them being here and enjoying their football hopefully that helps abit though . Two different positions though if we were to sign one I'd hope its Marcondes tbh .
It shows our club's ambitious in trying and even if we don't get any of them I do think over the last couple of transfer windows we have signed some very good players and will again this summer . Exciting summer ahead for the Hibees I think.🤞
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-boss-on-man-utd-defender-and-bournemouth-attacker-potential-permanent-deals-4570982
BILLYHIBS
28-03-2024, 09:13 AM
Would love to see a leaner meaner fitter Marcondes with a decent preseason under his belt no doubt Emiliano is a talent
Fish has kicked on recently after a slow start imo
Would be great if we could hang onto both
sauzee1989
28-03-2024, 09:21 AM
Would be great to keep Marcondes and especially Maolida. Not fussed for Fish.
yerauldda
28-03-2024, 09:26 AM
I wouldn't want us to be in a position where we're waiting around for Fish to assess his options over summer.
He's developed a lot over his time here but it'd be nice to have a permanent solution for that position, hopefully someone left footed to get Rocky playing on his preferred side as I think he's the better of the two.
Keeping Marcondes would be fantastic. I think there's so much more to come from him.
Stevie Reid
28-03-2024, 09:26 AM
I'd be happy enough if we kept either/both, but only if it wasn't on ridiculous wages - which I'd imagine it would be. If we're talking record breaking wages, I'd rather we looked elsewhere.
Donegal Hibby
28-03-2024, 09:35 AM
Would be great to keep Marcondes and especially Maolida. Not fussed for Fish.
I think it's going to be very hard to keep any of them though what ever slim chance we have with Fish , Marcondes and possibly Triantis and it is slim btw , Maolida i don't think we have any chance of at all imo . Surprised your not fussed about Fish as I think the guys a quality player . They all are though.
wookie70
28-03-2024, 10:03 AM
Would be happy to keep both but it needs done quickly so we have time to recruit if needed
Since452
28-03-2024, 10:05 AM
Would be happy enough with Fish and delighted with Marcondes.
superfurryhibby
28-03-2024, 10:26 AM
It very much doubt we'll be signing any of them.
Fish is probably our best bet. He hasn't progressed as I would have liked this season, but given his age and relative experience, he would be a very good permanent signing.
Saint Hibee
28-03-2024, 10:38 AM
Fish is replaceable in a way that Marcondes is not. I'd love us to sign Marcondes, but I just don't see how we'll be able to meet his wage demands.
Brightside
28-03-2024, 10:45 AM
Fish is replaceable in a way that Marcondes is not. I'd love us to sign Marcondes, but I just don't see how we'll be able to meet his wage demands.
Agreed. Unless Bournemouth extend him and leave him here on loan
B.H.F.C
28-03-2024, 10:53 AM
Fish is replaceable in a way that Marcondes is not. I'd love us to sign Marcondes, but I just don't see how we'll be able to meet his wage demands.
Really depends on what he has on the table.
I think we could probably offer him a reasonable wage with the investment etc. he’s clearly a good player who has improved us but I don’t think teams will be queuing up to offer him ridiculous money based on what he’s done here along with his injury history. Would be surprised if he’s here next year but don’t think it’s impossible.
VoltaireHibs
28-03-2024, 11:27 AM
I'd be happy enough if we kept either/both, but only if it wasn't on ridiculous wages - which I'd imagine it would be. If we're talking record breaking wages, I'd rather we looked elsewhere.
That's where I'm at. Folk wanting to sign Marcondes on a few good games and a couple of okay ones. I'd keep my powder dry for a wee while yet.
We have, presumably, news access to a much larger scouting network. Hopefully there will be opportunities to use that to our advantage.
Tyler Durden
28-03-2024, 11:51 AM
Really depends on what he has on the table.
I think we could probably offer him a reasonable wage with the investment etc. he’s clearly a good player who has improved us but I don’t think teams will be queuing up to offer him ridiculous money based on what he’s done here along with his injury history. Would be surprised if he’s here next year but don’t think it’s impossible.
In a nutshell. We've obviously enjoyed him but he's not quite lived up to the billing yet and I doubt there are many teams willing to match his current wage. He may prefer to be the main man here rather than risk being a squad player at a higher level
Fish will end up on loan at a Hull or Birmingham I'd imagine. If we recruit properly then he shouldn't be missed.
Stevie Reid
28-03-2024, 12:33 PM
That's where I'm at. Folk wanting to sign Marcondes on a few good games and a couple of okay ones. I'd keep my powder dry for a wee while yet.
We have, presumably, news access to a much larger scouting network. Hopefully there will be opportunities to use that to our advantage.
Agreed. If we’re talking huge wages for Fish, I’d want him to be performing at the level of the very best centre halfs I’ve seen play for us - whilst I do like him, and he’s been very good in spells, he’s not performed to the levels of the best we’ve had.
Similar for Marcondes - for us to be really pushing the boat out, I’d want him at least to be performing at the level of say, Scott Allan at his best for us. Again, he hasn’t hit those heights.
I’m not saying that neither could reach those levels, and all transfers are a risk - but the evidence so far for me, is that neither is worth massive wages by our standards.
supermcginn
28-03-2024, 02:33 PM
Agreed. If we’re talking huge wages for Fish, I’d want him to be performing at the level of the very best centre halfs I’ve seen play for us - whilst I do like him, and he’s been very good in spells, he’s not performed to the levels of the best we’ve had.
Similar for Marcondes - for us to be really pushing the boat out, I’d want him at least to be performing at the level of say, Scott Allan at his best for us. Again, he hasn’t hit those heights.
I’m not saying that neither could reach those levels, and all transfers are a risk - but the evidence so far for me, is that neither is worth massive wages by our standards.
Couldn't agree more with this, I really wouldn't be pushing the boat out to keep Fish, especially not on huge wages, if he was to leave I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep.
Marcondes I feel pretty much the same, he's really not delivered that much, he has been put out on loan by a club who Ryan Christie gets a game for every week I don't get the hype.
Maolida stands out a mile from our recent signings.
Ronniekirk
28-03-2024, 04:29 PM
Monty saying we won’t break our wage structure even with Foleys money So if folk are right that Bournemouth are paying the bulk of his 18 grand a week we have no chance of signing him imo
Maybe with a big signing on fee and making him our top paid player he might consider a contact that would see him say another season with a clause in any longer contract he is allowed to go for a fee after a year
He is saying he likes it here but I also assume he wants to play with better quality players , so who are able to bring in may also play a part
Waiting till end of the season will no dount mean he will have other suitors then so it’s a big ask
But let’s wait and see what happens
andrew70
28-03-2024, 04:53 PM
Couldn't agree more with this, I really wouldn't be pushing the boat out to keep Fish, especially not on huge wages, if he was to leave I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep.
Marcondes I feel pretty much the same, he's really not delivered that much, he has been put out on loan by a club who Ryan Christie gets a game for every week I don't get the hype.
Maolida stands out a mile from our recent signings.
“Really not delivered that much” may I ask what else you are expecting. He along with Myziane have increased performance levels no end.
He’s clever, picks up space wherever he can, always showing, always talking players next to him through the game.
He’s miles ahead of many we’ve had lately.
Brightside
28-03-2024, 05:52 PM
That's where I'm at. Folk wanting to sign Marcondes on a few good games and a couple of okay ones. I'd keep my powder dry for a wee while yet.
We have, presumably, news access to a much larger scouting network. Hopefully there will be opportunities to use that to our advantage.
a few good games? :greengrin. I wouldn't mind a few more average players like him.
Brightside
28-03-2024, 05:53 PM
“Really not delivered that much” may I ask what else you are expecting. He along with Myziane have increased performance levels no end.
He’s clever, picks up space wherever he can, always showing, always talking players next to him through the game.
He’s miles ahead of many we’ve had lately.
Astounding that some don't see this tbh. Players like the don't play at Easter Rd very often.
sauzee1989
28-03-2024, 05:59 PM
I think it's going to be very hard to keep any of them though what ever slim chance we have with Fish , Marcondes and possibly Triantis and it is slim btw , Maolida i don't think we have any chance of at all imo . Surprised your not fussed about Fish as I think the guys a quality player . They all are though.
Mainly because Fish has had more bad games in a hibs shirt this season than good ones. The Forfar match he looked like a fish out of water against some journeyman striker. Jason Kerr would be a huge upgrade. Fish for me is just not physical enough for a centre half.
Bridge hibs
28-03-2024, 06:10 PM
Mainly because Fish has had more bad games in a hibs shirt this season than good ones. The Forfar match he looked like a fish out of water against some journeyman striker. Jason Kerr would be a huge upgrade. Fish for me is just not physical enough for a centre half.
Kerr would be a huge upgrade ? When was the last time you seen Kerr play, at St Johnstone ?
Fish may have his weaknesses but is still a young lad who is developing and learning the game every week. Also Fish has had more bad games than good games this season ? Dont agree with that
Kerr is a hibs fan though, get him signed, if he was a jambo there wouldnt be a peep on here about signing him
Centre Hawf
28-03-2024, 06:18 PM
Astounding that some don't see this tbh. Players like the don't play at Easter Rd very often.
I agree, I think the guy is quality. I think with a pre-season in him he would be a different beast as I think he himself is still getting some rust off through playing here.
My only real complaint is that I'd have liked to have seen him set up a couple goals by now just because of the type of player he is, but I think that'll come.
sauzee1989
28-03-2024, 06:21 PM
Kerr would be a huge upgrade ? When was the last time you seen Kerr play, at St Johnstone ?
Fish may have his weaknesses but is still a young lad who is developing and learning the game every week. Also Fish has had more bad games than good games this season ? Dont agree with that
Kerr is a hibs fan though, get him signed, if he was a jambo there wouldnt be a peep on here about signing him
All about opinions ultimately I think he’s vastly overrated and looks good on occasions because his partners at the back after often just as bad. Need two centre half’s and more physical and vocal ones.
Bridge hibs
28-03-2024, 06:25 PM
All about opinions ultimately I think he’s vastly overrated and looks good on occasions because his partners at the back after often just as bad. Need two centre half’s and more physical and vocal ones.Of course and I respect your opinion but to rate Kerr as better than Fish, you see Fish week in week out based on your post above, why do you rate Kerr as better, you dont watch him every week ?
The Modfather
28-03-2024, 06:38 PM
I’d be a bit concerned if we were to sign Fish, particularly if expensive to do so. Would mean we essentially would have the same defence next season (minus Stevenson & Hanlon, who rarely play anyway), and maybe Marshall, that has struggled all season and is amongst the worst in the league.
I think Fish is a bit like Hanlon. His ceiling is probably a decent SPL level defender with some good seasons and some not so good seasons. One who never quite fully convinces and never able to fully shake question marks about being bullied too easily.
Fish is replaceable in a way that Marcondes is not. I'd love us to sign Marcondes, but I just don't see how we'll be able to meet his wage demands.
What are his wage demands? What is he on just now?
Since90+2
28-03-2024, 07:20 PM
What are his wage demands? What is he on just now?
I'm not sure why people always ask this.
I don't think the poster is claiming to know his exact wage, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out he's likely on very big wages comparable to what we could pay. He's on loan from an establishment Premier League team, he's going to be on big money.
Donegal Hibby
28-03-2024, 07:38 PM
I’d be a bit concerned if we were to sign Fish, particularly if expensive to do so. Would mean we essentially would have the same defence next season (minus Stevenson & Hanlon, who rarely play anyway), and maybe Marshall, that has struggled all season and is amongst the worst in the league.
I think Fish is a bit like Hanlon. His ceiling is probably a decent SPL level defender with some good seasons and some not so good seasons. One who never quite fully convinces and never able to fully shake question marks about being bullied too easily.
We won't break our wage structure for any of our loan players I think. I don't know what Fish is on wages wise , what he'd cost and even if he would stay , apparently championship club have been looking at him too so maybe we will have to look elsewhere though he's a good centre half who we will find hard to replace .
The other major factor is he's only 21 and is only going to get better imo and would make us money down the line . Glad we are going to at least have talks with Fish and Marcondes . Both have been good and improved us imo .
VoltaireHibs
28-03-2024, 07:58 PM
“Really not delivered that much” may I ask what else you are expecting. He along with Myziane have increased performance levels no end.
He’s clever, picks up space wherever he can, always showing, always talking players next to him through the game.
He’s miles ahead of many we’ve had lately.
I do like how Marcondes talks to players, and he has obvious quality, but do we, this league, suit him?
Fish is a strange one. He looks good in some games, Bambi on ice in others. Is it that just his age or is it just him? Tricky one, certainly wouldn't break the bank o over either of them.
andrew70
28-03-2024, 08:05 PM
I do like how Marcondes talks to players, and he has obvious quality, but do we, this league, suit him?
Fish is a strange one. He looks good in some games, Bambi on ice in others. Is it that just his age or is it just him? Tricky one, certainly wouldn't break the bank o over either of them.
He’s only a few matches in, Emi and even more quality around him we’d see the best of him (also a pre season) but we should enjoy his quality whilst he’s here. Players like him can play in any league. He’s making Hibs better that’s all that matters to me.
hibbymark
28-03-2024, 08:11 PM
I spoke to a scout at Easter Rd a couple of weeks ago and asked him who he was watching. He said that he was watching Fish then went on to say that he is our player and was working for Man Utd. He said that Man Utd rate him highly and that wheels were in motion for him to play in the Championship down south next season .
Smartie
28-03-2024, 08:13 PM
I really rate Fish FWIW.
Had a great 2nd half to last season.
No doubt his form dipped a bit 1st half of this season but I thought the whole team suffered from the 442 with an abject centre of midfield spell. He’s been good again lately since we tightened up the midfield, sometimes very good.
I’d prioritise a cracking left sided centre half if possible - maybe someone not unlike Fonts when he signed. Fish would benefit from having an experienced, left-footed CH partner imo. I think we might struggle to get better than “on his day” Fish, and I think he’ll improve with all the experience he’s had playing first team football for us.
But if at all possible I’d be signing to compliment Fish, not replace him.
I spoke to a scout at Easter Rd a couple of weeks ago and asked him who he was watching. He said that he was watching Fish then went on to say that he is our player and was working for Man Utd. He said that Man Utd rate him highly and that wheels were in motion for him to play in the Championship down south next season .
Interesting. Hopefully they're pleased with his progress here and think about sending us another player or 2.
Johnny_Leith
28-03-2024, 08:52 PM
I spoke to a scout at Easter Rd a couple of weeks ago and asked him who he was watching. He said that he was watching Fish then went on to say that he is our player and was working for Man Utd. He said that Man Utd rate him highly and that wheels were in motion for him to play in the Championship down south next season .
Said it several times, big future in the game. Great physical attributes, reading of the game and positioning is superb for a young guy and distribution solid too. Will only get better and go on to do well for himself.
Musselbound
28-03-2024, 09:43 PM
For the sake of continuity I think it would be good to get both these players signed but I'm not sure how likely it is.
BILLYHIBS
29-03-2024, 04:46 AM
I spoke to a scout at Easter Rd a couple of weeks ago and asked him who he was watching. He said that he was watching Fish then went on to say that he is our player and was working for Man Utd. He said that Man Utd rate him highly and that wheels were in motion for him to play in the Championship down south next season .
Thanks for sharing
If that proves to be the case I would like to thank him for his service over the last two years and would like to wish him a fruitful and prosperous career and hope he has found his time here worthwhile if not invaluable?
As others have said he is not irreplaceable and will give us time to bring in a loan or permanent replacement
Nectar’s situation might be worth considering as a possible solution but has looked more than useful in midfield also don’t forget the lesser spotted Harbottle ?
andrew70
29-03-2024, 04:52 AM
Thanks for sharing
If that proves to be the case I would like to thank him for his service over the last two years and would like to wish him a fruitful and prosperous career and hope he has found his time here worthwhile if not invaluable?
As others have said he is not irreplaceable and will give us time to bring in a loan or permanent replacement
Nectar’s situation might be worth considering as a possible solution but has looked more than useful in midfield also don’t forget the lesser spotted Harbottle ?
Harbottle not even playing for Colchester, although I think they’ve changed manager in time he has been on loan there.
Forza Fred
29-03-2024, 06:26 AM
Harbottle not even playing for Colchester, although I think they’ve changed manager in time he has been on loan there.
Afraid Harbottle may not have much of a future at Easter Road if he is looking for regular game time.
Not every signing works out, and I think this is one that falls into that category.
CapitalGreen
29-03-2024, 07:25 AM
I really rate Fish FWIW.
Had a great 2nd half to last season.
No doubt his form dipped a bit 1st half of this season but I thought the whole team suffered from the 442 with an abject centre of midfield spell. He’s been good again lately since we tightened up the midfield, sometimes very good.
I’d prioritise a cracking left sided centre half if possible - maybe someone not unlike Fonts when he signed. Fish would benefit from having an experienced, left-footed CH partner imo. I think we might struggle to get better than “on his day” Fish, and I think he’ll improve with all the experience he’s had playing first team football for us.
But if at all possible I’d be signing to compliment Fish, not replace him.
I’ve seen a few people say he was poor during the first half of the season but it’s not really true. Yes he had a bad opening to the season (remember he didn’t get a preseason with us) however after LJ was sacked he was arguably our best player from September to early December.
Since452
29-03-2024, 07:34 AM
Afraid Harbottle may not have much of a future at Easter Road if he is looking for regular game time.
Not every signing works out, and I think this is one that falls into that category.
Hopefully Montgomery or whoever the manager is has him back in the summer for pre season to get a good look at him. I thought he had a good game against Rovers in the cup them seemed to disappear.
DH1875
29-03-2024, 08:18 AM
How long has Fish got left on his Utd contract? Alright arguing about wages but think we'd also need to pay a transfer fee for him as can't see him coming back on loan. Utd will send him to a championship club.
Up-the-slope
29-03-2024, 09:00 AM
I think over wages - Europe is the one thing players wont get even down south. The difference us sneaking into a Euro spot will make in any negotiations or recruitment searches can't be underestimated. It gives players something they cant get elsewhere, but also is a potential huge shop window for their futures.
Monty saying in press that whether we are in top 6 or not wont change summer recruitment is frankly nonsense (of course I understand he can't be saying its a disaster - but better to say nothing on that)
Stevie Reid
29-03-2024, 09:02 AM
Astounding that some don't see this tbh. Players like the don't play at Easter Rd very often.
I don’t think a single person on this thread doesn’t think that Marcondes is a very good footballer - it’s obvious from watching him for a few minutes.
The questions being asked by myself and others are, is he well suited to this league, will he be productive enough, and be able to impact games in a way - on a regular basis - that will justify a huge outlay on wages?
The evidence so far for me is no, but there’s still some crucial matches to come though. So far his goals have won us a couple of important points, he obviously cares about playing for us, and he played very well away at Tynie.
On the flip side, I’d have been hoping for more by this point, and I thought he was disappointing against Rangers in the cup: poor on the ball, and got caught up in the occasion.
If by the end of the season he’s looking like one of the best attacking midfielders I’ve seen play for us, then I’d be happy for us to push the boat out if that’s what we can do with the new investment.
But if there are still question marks as to whether he will actually represent real value for that investment, after playing here for half a season, then I’d be happy to look elsewhere.
I’m certainly keen to see what he can do at Ibrox tomorrow - a player of his stature should be able to impose himself on the game, let’s hope he does.
offshorehibby
29-03-2024, 09:06 AM
also don’t forget the lesser spotted Harbottle ?
There's also Kyle McClelland down at QoS, playing every week but wouldn't imagine he'd be in the plans for next season.
Greensunshine
29-03-2024, 09:21 AM
I wouldn’t be heartbroken if we didn’t sign Fish. I know he’s young and with that comes inconsistency and that’s exactly what we’ve had from him and there’s a good possibility he’ll go on to be a top player but I think we need to address our goals against tally!
A more experienced defender who’s going to help close that door at the back is what we need in my opinion.
As for Marcondes, I just don’t see how we can manage to keep a hold of a player with his quality.
There’s got to be suitors lining up around the block for this guy.
He’s been simply a joy to watch and if by some miracle we do manage to keep him I’ll be overjoyed.
BILLYHIBS
29-03-2024, 09:22 AM
There's also Kyle McClelland down at QoS, playing every week but wouldn't imagine he'd be in the plans for next season.
Yip thought he was looking good up until he got caught underneath the ball at Falkirk but does not appear to have progressed at a lower level ?
B.H.F.C
29-03-2024, 09:27 AM
I don’t think a single person on this thread doesn’t think that Marcondes is a very good footballer - it’s obvious from watching him for a few minutes.
The questions being asked by myself and others are, is he well suited to this league, will he be productive enough, and be able to impact games in a way - on a regular basis - that will justify a huge outlay on wages?
The evidence so far for me is no, but there’s still some crucial matches to come though. So far his goals have won us a couple of important points, he obviously cares about playing for us, and he played very well away at Tynie.
On the flip side, I’d have been hoping for more by this point, and I thought he was disappointing against Rangers in the cup: poor on the ball, and got caught up in the occasion.
If by the end of the season he’s looking like one of the best attacking midfielders I’ve seen play for us, then I’d be happy for us to push the boat out if that’s what we can do with the new investment.
But if there are still question marks as to whether he will actually represent real value for that investment, after playing here for half a season, then I’d be happy to look elsewhere.
I’m certainly keen to see what he can do at Ibrox tomorrow - a player of his stature should be able to impose himself on the game, let’s hope he does.
I don’t have any issues about him not been suited to the league. He’s a good player and he can handle himself.
I don’t think he’s been brilliant though. He’s clearly a good player but I don’t think he’s played particularly well since Tynecastle (will exclude the game and a half where we played him in a stupid position).
When I watched him at Kilmarnock in his first start I thought he was going to be the outstanding player on the park most weeks and we’ve not quite seen that. He’s barely played football over the last few years though. I think if we managed to keep him next season, and he stayed fit, he’d be miles ahead though.
cameronw-hfc
29-03-2024, 09:51 AM
Marcondes is just back from injury so understandably not fully fit/match fit. Give him a pre season and I think he's an old firm standard player. Would take him if there's any opportunity at all.
Brightside
29-03-2024, 12:31 PM
Marcondes is just back from injury so understandably not fully fit/match fit. Give him a pre season and I think he's an old firm standard player. Would take him if there's any opportunity at all.
He's old firm standard now imo. Ive zero issue with his fitness. Looks as fit as anyone in our squad.
Brightside
29-03-2024, 12:35 PM
I don’t think a single person on this thread doesn’t think that Marcondes is a very good footballer - it’s obvious from watching him for a few minutes.
The questions being asked by myself and others are, is he well suited to this league, will he be productive enough, and be able to impact games in a way - on a regular basis - that will justify a huge outlay on wages?
The evidence so far for me is no, but there’s still some crucial matches to come though. So far his goals have won us a couple of important points, he obviously cares about playing for us, and he played very well away at Tynie.
On the flip side, I’d have been hoping for more by this point, and I thought he was disappointing against Rangers in the cup: poor on the ball, and got caught up in the occasion.
If by the end of the season he’s looking like one of the best attacking midfielders I’ve seen play for us, then I’d be happy for us to push the boat out if that’s what we can do with the new investment.
But if there are still question marks as to whether he will actually represent real value for that investment, after playing here for half a season, then I’d be happy to look elsewhere.
I’m certainly keen to see what he can do at Ibrox tomorrow - a player of his stature should be able to impose himself on the game, let’s hope he does.
He's the most productive player in our team. Almost everything we do works through him. His movement in and out of possession is a different parish to anything we've had recently. His work rate is top class. He conducts the team. He leads by example. Ive not seen anything negative about him yet.
B.H.F.C
29-03-2024, 12:43 PM
He's the most productive player in our team. Almost everything we do works through him. His movement in and out of possession is a different parish to anything we've had recently. His work rate is top class. He conducts the team. He leads by example. Ive not seen anything negative about him yet.
He’s a good player and has made a difference. But things can be exaggerated at times (both ways). You look at the goals against Livingston and he wasn’t really. involved. Same up at Ross County. I think it’s hard to argue that he’s been more productive than Maolida since he came in, for example.
Stevie Reid
29-03-2024, 01:18 PM
He's the most productive player in our team. Almost everything we do works through him. His movement in and out of possession is a different parish to anything we've had recently. His work rate is top class. He conducts the team. He leads by example. Ive not seen anything negative about him yet.
I think he's started eight games for us, so which of those have featured the type of performances that you're describing? Certainly not the home defeats to St. Mirren or Rangers in the cup. So which of the remaining six? He was very good at Tynie, certainly.
He's a good player, whom I enjoy watching - but I wish I was seeing what you are. I'd certainly be advocating spending big wages on him, if I was.
Unseen work
29-03-2024, 01:55 PM
I think Marcondes has obvious talent and has shown signs of being a level above us so to speak.
His quality tends to come in first time flicks/touches imo round the corner where you go wow.
But, he’s also shown the other hand with some really sloppy passes and poor performances - both Ross County games comes to mind.
He’s yet imo to really control a game and thread passes etc that I think he can. Maybe that’s not his game though, maybe it is more of an arrive late and score goals midfielder and do tricks and flicks first time than a Scott Allan type .
Now I imagine it’s match fitness/sharpness that’s a result of the poor side of it than ability so it will undoubtedly come imo.
His performances to date give me a bit of hope that we can keep him longer as so far I don’t think the old firm will be rushing to sign him. But there is a long way to go.
He could probably earn a lot more even in mid English championship teams.
I really like him though and would be doing everything possible (within reason) to keep him. With a pre season in him I think he’d go to a new level.
Fish? He’s a really good player at times, other times I think he really lacks a bit of aggression or leadership. I suppose that’s his age/experience. Could we do better? I honestly don’t know. Would be be better with Rocky on the right and bring in an experienced left sided centre half?
DH1875
29-03-2024, 02:05 PM
Marcondes might not get £18k a week at a new club but he might get £10k a week which is a lot more than £5k per week when over a 2/3 year deal.
Montford
29-03-2024, 08:07 PM
Marcondes is good. But I think the real gem is Triantis
Last couple of games he’s started to motor
The ball sticks.
There’s a real class act in there
He’s the one I’d like tied down to a LTC
1van Sprou7e
30-03-2024, 06:32 AM
Marcondes might not get £18k a week at a new club but he might get £10k a week which is a lot more than £5k per week when over a 2/3 year deal.
Don't we already pay some players way more than 5k. Surely 10k is now well within our capabilities
Brightside
30-03-2024, 08:59 AM
Marcondes is good. But I think the real gem is Triantis
Last couple of games he’s started to motor
The ball sticks.
There’s a real class act in there
He’s the one I’d like tied down to a LTC
I think you might be broken fella.
Up-the-slope
30-03-2024, 09:10 AM
Marcondes is good. But I think the real gem is Triantis
Last couple of games he’s started to motor
The ball sticks.
There’s a real class act in there
He’s the one I’d like tied down to a LTC
Not our player and here to develop for parent club - no chance of getting him LT. As long as we can have an improved pipeline of players on loan of the quality of January we will benefit hugely - but will have to accept seeing them return to parent club if we do our job of developing them
supermcginn
30-03-2024, 11:03 AM
I think you might be broken fella.
Classy response as per usual from you 😴 the fact you have taken a screenshot of his post and put it on your twitter ridiculing it is even worse Dave.
Hibs4185
30-03-2024, 11:16 AM
Classy response as per usual from you 😴 the fact you have taken a screenshot of his post and put it on your twitter ridiculing it is even worse Dave.
Ridiculing a post on another platform where the author doesn’t have a chance to respond is pretty poor if true.
Smartie
30-03-2024, 11:21 AM
I think you might be broken fella.
It’s quite far from the craziest opinion ever expressed on here, whilst acknowledging that Marcondes is good too.
Triantis has surprised a few of us with his ceiling of performance in midfield in the past couple of games, which has been very high. Yes, he’s had some ropey games at CH along the way too, but the statement isn’t really all that outrageous.
Brightside
30-03-2024, 11:42 AM
It’s quite far from the craziest opinion ever expressed on here, whilst acknowledging that Marcondes is good too.
Triantis has surprised a few of us with his ceiling of performance in midfield in the past couple of games, which has been very high. Yes, he’s had some ropey games at CH along the way too, but the statement isn’t really all that outrageous.
The idea that triantis is the “real gem” in comparison to Emi is barking imo. He’s a CB slotting into an unnatural position and he’s done well. But he wouldn’t even play the majority of games with a full fit squad.
Brightside
30-03-2024, 11:43 AM
Ridiculing a post on another platform where the author doesn’t have a chance to respond is pretty poor if true.
Is Twitter locked down? Thanks for quoting the post above. I’m glad the poster is an avid follower.
BILLYHIBS
30-03-2024, 11:47 AM
I think you might be broken fella.
Said the very same on my post #37
Anyone that goes to the games can see that Triantes has been quality in midfield giving us composure and an added dimension
The fact he can play in two positions working out a deal or extending his loan might not be the worst idea ?
Paulie Walnuts
30-03-2024, 05:47 PM
Marcondes has been decent. Wouldn’t be offering him anything outrageous. If he was willing to sign and match our current top earner then fair enough. I wouldn’t be offering him any more than that though.
Maolida though, I’d break the bank for. Fish, couldn’t really care less either way.
Also don’t necessarily agree with the Triantis shout but the idea it was a shout worth attempting to shame someone on Twitter for is miles off it and also terrible patter. Triantis hasn’t offered all that much less than Marcondes imo and on current form would be ahead of him in the ‘first name on the team sheet’ league for me.
JohnM1875
30-03-2024, 05:52 PM
Marcondes has been decent. Wouldn’t be offering him anything outrageous. If he was willing to sign and match our current top earner then fair enough. I wouldn’t be offering him any more than that though.
Maolida though, I’d break the bank for. Fish, couldn’t really care less either way.
Also don’t necessarily agree with the Triantis shout but the idea it was a shout worth attempting to shame someone on Twitter for is miles off it and also terrible patter. Triantis hasn’t offered all that much less than Marcondes imo and on current form would be ahead of him in the ‘first name on the team sheet’ league for me.
I really don't know about Marcondes. Get he's just back from a serious injury, but he just seems really slow.
Maolida i totally get, if we can make that happen then we should. Same with Triantis, though don't think there's a slight chance of that happening.
GreenNWhiteArmy
30-03-2024, 06:05 PM
I thought both were awful today tbh. In games like that we need our "big" players to turn up. Neither did
Maolida on the other hand, doubt we could ever get him permanently but there's every chance he'll end the season as our player of the year if he keeps this up
Smartie
30-03-2024, 06:23 PM
Marcondes has been decent. Wouldn’t be offering him anything outrageous. If he was willing to sign and match our current top earner then fair enough. I wouldn’t be offering him any more than that though.
Maolida though, I’d break the bank for. Fish, couldn’t really care less either way.
Also don’t necessarily agree with the Triantis shout but the idea it was a shout worth attempting to shame someone on Twitter for is miles off it and also terrible patter. Triantis hasn’t offered all that much less than Marcondes imo and on current form would be ahead of him in the ‘first name on the team sheet’ league for me.
I agree with your Maolida shout fwiw.
If there’s any one of them worth breaking the bank for, it’s him.
The rest are all good players who would be worth signing permanently or taking on loan again if the terms of the deal were sufficiently favourable.
The size of the summer rebuild is pretty terrifying tbh and unless we do an awful lot of good, early business, some of our starters and fringe players could be pretty scarily poor relative to what is required.
B.H.F.C
30-03-2024, 06:52 PM
Thought Marcondes was poor today. I think he’s been poor since Tynecastle really.
Stevie Reid
30-03-2024, 08:06 PM
Thought Marcondes was poor today. I think he’s been poor since Tynecastle really.
Very good pass to start the move for the goal IIRC, but had nowhere near the impact that I was hoping for overall.
AL-Qaholik
30-03-2024, 09:01 PM
Maolida is the only one of the loanees we should be trying to keep.
But he’s the one we have practically zero chance of getting.
Fish will end up in the English lower leagues for his whole career.
Marcondes flatters to deceive against dreadful players but goes completely awol in bigger games.
Maolida is the only one of the loanees we should be trying to keep.
But he’s the one we have practically zero chance of getting.
Fish will end up in the English lower leagues for his whole career.
Marcondes flatters to deceive against dreadful players but goes completely awol in bigger games.
Maolida is the kind of player I could see either of the OF trying to sign based on his Hibs performances.
Unseen work
30-03-2024, 10:35 PM
Marcondes gets off with murder because of his reputation/past.
Had we signed him from and SPFL club I doubt many would be as kind
JohnM1875
30-03-2024, 10:37 PM
Marcondes gets off with murder because of his reputation/past.
Had we signed him from and SPFL club I doubt many would be as kind
:agree:
wookie70
30-03-2024, 10:46 PM
Marcondes gets off with murder because of his reputation/past.
Had we signed him from and SPFL club I doubt many would be as kind
He works hard for that type of player to be fair to him but I wouldn't be breaking the bank.
Squealing pig
30-03-2024, 10:47 PM
Build the team around emilo
Heisenberg
31-03-2024, 07:28 AM
Maolida is the player I’d really like us to keep but highly doubt it happens. Do any of our other players score that goal he did yesterday? I’m not sure. Strength, touch, composure. He’s got it all.
Marcondes has been good too and had an impact.
Send Fish back and don’t spend a penny on him.
B.H.F.C
31-03-2024, 08:25 AM
Maolida is the player I’d really like us to keep but highly doubt it happens. Do any of our other players score that goal he did yesterday? I’m not sure. Strength, touch, composure. He’s got it all.
Marcondes has been good too and had an impact.
Send Fish back and don’t spend a penny on him.
Maolida would be sitting on 20+ goals if he’d been here all season.
He came in unfit from hardly playing and now he’s playing through Ramadan and is still our biggest goal threat. He is the one that is a level above IMO.
LaMotta
31-03-2024, 09:01 AM
Feel Marcondes is getting a bit of a hard time unfairly. He played a huge part in our goal and had several moments of quality that could have led to another. I think he's suffering a bit because people got way too excited after his arrival and were over egging how good he was, comparisons to Latapy etc.
He is still a very good player, mobility is his issue whether thats through his injury or just because he never had that much pace Im not sure.
As others say Maolida is on a different level, tremendous. He did cost us yesterday at the second goal by not tracking Cantwell, he's not without flaws.
LaMotta
31-03-2024, 09:08 AM
Maolida is the only one of the loanees we should be trying to keep.
But he’s the one we have practically zero chance of getting.
Fish will end up in the English lower leagues for his whole career.
Marcondes flatters to deceive against dreadful players but goes completely awol in bigger games.
Marcondes scored and was brilliant at Tynie and helped set up a goal at Ibrox. Unfair to say he goes awol in bigger games IMO.
Hibs90
31-03-2024, 09:41 AM
Marcondes yes absolutely.
Fish - honestly not bothered. Makes far too many mistakes within the 90 minutes that put pressure on the defence. We can do better.
JimBHibees
31-03-2024, 09:51 AM
Feel Marcondes is getting a bit of a hard time unfairly. He played a huge part in our goal and had several moments of quality that could have led to another. I think he's suffering a bit because people got way too excited after his arrival and were over egging how good he was, comparisons to Latapy etc.
He is still a very good player, mobility is his issue whether thats through his injury or just because he never had that much pace Im not sure.
As others say Maolida is on a different level, tremendous. He did cost us yesterday at the second goal by not tracking Cantwell, he's not without flaws.
Think Maolida didn’t track Tavernier for goal one also.
Potty78
31-03-2024, 10:44 AM
Do some people really not want us tae sign Marcondes? He wasn't great yesterday but he is still a really good player and improves us all day long. Maolida would be a sensational signing too. Fish not bothered as much.
For an attacking mid, Marcondes worked his socks off yesterday, was back deep many times putting his boot in to win the ball back, it doesn't help a player like him when the team sits very deep to hit on the break, he has very good feet and brain on him. Would love to keep him and Maolida as both are quality, Fish I'm not too fussed about.
Paulie Walnuts
31-03-2024, 10:58 AM
Do some people really not want us tae sign Marcondes? He wasn't great yesterday but he is still a really good player and improves us all day long. Maolida would be a sensational signing too. Fish not bothered as much.
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say they don’t want us signing him.
All the chat though has been how much he’ll cost and how we’ll need to break our wage structure for him. I’ve even seen it suggested we sell Youan for a couple million to finance the deal. That’s the side of things where people aren’t nearly as into the idea.
I’d happily see him sign as one of our highest earners. I wouldn’t want to see us blowing huge sums of money on him and leaving us short elsewhere when he’s really been no more than pretty decent over the piece though.
JohnM1875
31-03-2024, 10:59 AM
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say they don’t want us signing him.
All the chat though has been how much he’ll cost and how we’ll need to break our wage structure for him. I’ve even seen it suggested we sell Youan for a couple million to finance the deal. That’s the side of things where people aren’t nearly as into the idea.
I’d happily see him sign as one of our highest earners. I wouldn’t want to see us blowing huge sums of money on him and leaving us short elsewhere when he’s really been no more than pretty decent over the piece though.
Spot on there. Exactly how I feel about it as well.
18Craig75
31-03-2024, 02:10 PM
Might surprise people to hear that Marcondes since coming in is usually topping the charts for most km covered in game (from a first team player).
Might surprise people to hear that Marcondes since coming in is usually topping the charts for most km covered in game (from a first team player).
He worked extremely hard yesterday, quite obvious that he put a real shift in, did a lot of the dirty work too.
Gmack7
07-04-2024, 07:11 PM
Not sure we should be pushing the boat out for either after yesterday's performances
chippy
07-04-2024, 07:29 PM
I’d keep Marcondes on wages a bit above our best paid. Break the bank for Maolida , even a years loan. I like Triantis in CM and think he’ll be adaptable to l play CH if we sign a very good CH or two( which we must). Like NMW very much , should be on all game. I’d have him Triantis and Emilio as midfield 3 - Joe on bench.
Mcbizz1998
08-04-2024, 10:19 AM
I would be delighted if I never see Fish playing for Hibs again. We need wholesale changes of the defence, particularly at Centre Half. It would be worrying if we are pushing out the boat with the BK money to sign Will Fish ffs.
Paulie Walnuts
08-04-2024, 10:24 AM
Not sure we should be pushing the boat out for either after yesterday's performances
I’d take Marcondes back. Wouldn’t be giving him any more than our current top earner though.
Fish, couldn’t care less. He’s young, he’s good enough at this level but not much more than that. Definitely wouldn’t be shelling out a significant fee though.
Maolida, I’d be doing everything I could to keep him. He’s by a mile our best player and probably the best non old firm player in the league. Theres been absolutely no sign of an attitude problem from him either, as would have maybe been a concern.
EGL2000
08-04-2024, 10:45 AM
Aye no chance should we be going after Fish this summer. Think we should be aiming for an experienced CB age or 28-30ish.
Smartie
08-04-2024, 11:18 AM
I'm not seeing what others see in Marcondes tbh and there is absolutely no way I'd be making him the highest earner by a distance.
Agree with those who identify Maolida as being the player in there is who is a level above.
Hibs have rarely managed to sign a solid experienced Centre Half. I liked Adam Jackson though and Big Rob.
But Monty exposes his centre halves by playing his full backs as wingers. He overloads the cornet flags for scant reward.
Obita was used in the vast majority of attacks on Saturday which achieved the square root of Hee Haw.
The first St Johnstone goal was from ball over the heads of the full backs. Far two much pressure put on the two at the back IMO.
B.H.F.C
08-04-2024, 12:35 PM
Hibs have rarely managed to sign a solid experienced Centre Half. I liked Adam Jackson though and Big Rob.
But Monty exposes his centre halves by playing his full backs as wingers. He overloads the cornet flags for scant reward.
Obita was used in the vast majority of attacks on Saturday which achieved the square root of Hee Haw.
The first St Johnstone goal was from ball over the heads of the full backs. Far two much pressure put on the two at the back IMO.
We’re snobby about who we get IMO. We’re too concerned about getting centre halves who can play out or whatever. It’s Scottish football, first and foremost you need players capable of defending their box. Fish with a bit experience himself and beside him should be capable of doing that properly in time. We could have someone as good as Sauzee on the ball, waste of time if we concede whenever a ball is lumped in to our box.
Unseen work
08-04-2024, 12:45 PM
I'm not seeing what others see in Marcondes tbh and there is absolutely no way I'd be making him the highest earner by a distance.
Agree with those who identify Maolida as being the player in there is who is a level above.
I think he has alot of quality, but he’s just not showing it.
Some of his passes and how easy he gives possession away is just mental. Simple 5 yard passes.
He’s also got a bit of the than Porteous where he seems to blame others for his mistakes.
Hibs have rarely managed to sign a solid experienced Centre Half. I liked Adam Jackson though and Big Rob.
But Monty exposes his centre halves by playing his full backs as wingers. He overloads the cornet flags for scant reward.
Obita was used in the vast majority of attacks on Saturday which achieved the square root of Hee Haw.
The first St Johnstone goal was from ball over the heads of the full backs. Far two much pressure put on the two at the back IMO.
We need a proper DM who sits and covers when the wingbacks are attacking, Newell and NMW are not that type of midfielder.
Unseen work
13-04-2024, 11:55 AM
Massive game for Marcondes today imo.
Not been as good as he should be of late, potential to be our highest earner or he’s trying to get a club better/pay more wages than us.
He needs to put in a performance that gives us a reason to give him a permanent contract in the money he’ll want.
JimBHibees
13-04-2024, 01:32 PM
Massive game for Marcondes today imo.
Not been as good as he should be of late, potential to be our highest earner or he’s trying to get a club better/pay more wages than us.
He needs to put in a performance that gives us a reason to give him a permanent contract in the money he’ll want.
Couldn’t agree more really needs to start creating things
JohnM1875
13-04-2024, 01:35 PM
Massive game for Marcondes today imo.
Not been as good as he should be of late, potential to be our highest earner or he’s trying to get a club better/pay more wages than us.
He needs to put in a performance that gives us a reason to give him a permanent contract in the money he’ll want.
Think he will score or assist today. Motherwell need to try and win so he should get space in their half.
BILLYHIBS
13-04-2024, 04:30 PM
Will Fish totally outstanding today
Well played Will
Marcondes not so sure now
SaulGoodman
13-04-2024, 04:31 PM
Marcondes looks like he’s realised we’re **** and can’t be arsed any more
Jones28
13-04-2024, 04:31 PM
Marcondes was awful today. If Tavares made half the number of poor passes he made today this place would have exploded.
A cut above? Meh, would rather sign Maolida.
MWHIBBIES
13-04-2024, 04:32 PM
Marcondes looks like he’s realised we’re **** and can’t be arsed any more
Na, he is just *****. Scary folk thought he was better than Scotty Allan never mind the likes of Latapy. He is ****ing rubbish.
Unseen work
13-04-2024, 04:33 PM
Really p****d me if he even tried to take the pen of Myziane.
hibee1875
13-04-2024, 04:35 PM
Really p****d me if he even tried to take the pen of Myziane.
Second time he’s done that
Stevie Reid
13-04-2024, 04:36 PM
Marcondes has been a huge disappointment.
.Sean.
13-04-2024, 04:43 PM
Both *****. End of
Heisenberg
13-04-2024, 04:48 PM
Wouldn’t break the bank for Marcondes. ***** for a while now.
GreenNWhiteArmy
13-04-2024, 04:55 PM
After a fantastic start when he joined us, Marcondes has been a huge disappointment. Clearly has the ability to be a class above but hasn't shown that in weeks
JohnM1875
13-04-2024, 04:56 PM
After a fantastic start when he joined us, Marcondes has been a huge disappointment. Clearly has the ability to be a class above but hasn't shown that in weeks
He's been pish the past month or so. Really really disappointing.
No doubt have folk saying I just don't get football and he's so far ahead of the rest I just can't see it. Utter bollocks
Not In The Know
13-04-2024, 04:59 PM
He's been pish the past month or so. Really really disappointing.
Think he’s been playing with an injury.
But I’d bin him and Fish if it means we have a chance of keeping Maolida
Unseen work
13-04-2024, 05:00 PM
Makes you wonder if Marcondes has a deal sorted elsewhere and doesn’t want to get injured
eastmainsmsh
13-04-2024, 05:21 PM
Headless Chicken Marcondes there is a reason why he is at Hibs
Unseen work
13-04-2024, 05:22 PM
Frozen pasta now.
Exuberance1875
13-04-2024, 05:23 PM
Will Fish totally outstanding today
Well played Will
Marcondes not so sure now
Agreed
ErinGoBraghHFC
13-04-2024, 05:28 PM
Marcondes will get pesters after today but imo he’s just two mental steps ahead of most of the rest of the team, no idea why he didn’t shoot when he got it just inside the box and squared to Cadden mind you.
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JohnM1875
13-04-2024, 05:37 PM
Marcondes will get pesters after today but imo he’s just two mental steps ahead of most of the rest of the team, no idea why he didn’t shoot when he got it just inside the box and squared to Cadden mind you.
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If he's so far ahead of most why does he get caught on the ball so much and end up delivering **** all?
ErinGoBraghHFC
13-04-2024, 05:40 PM
If he's so far ahead of most why does he get caught on the ball so much and end up delivering **** all?
Very rarely has many options, to be fair.
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JohnM1875
13-04-2024, 05:43 PM
Very rarely has many options, to be fair.
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Aye, just the other nine outfield players.
Folk are acting like he's Kaka and playing passes into spaces where players should be. He's not, he's losing the ball constantly and getting caught in possession.
paddy1875
13-04-2024, 05:54 PM
Empty both.
Fish was good today but his season is one to forget. He’ll cost us far too much money and there’s centre half’s out there not on Man Utd’s books who’ll improve the position that will cost less.
No chance signing emiliano, he’s not worth breaking the bank over and his loan spell has shown he’s not worth it
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B.H.F.C
13-04-2024, 06:17 PM
Marcondes will get pesters after today but imo he’s just two mental steps ahead of most of the rest of the team, no idea why he didn’t shoot when he got it just inside the box and squared to Cadden mind you.
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No having that. He’s made no significant contribution for weeks. Maolida is well ahead of the rest of them but has contributed most weeks. Marcondes being ahead of the rest is just a poor excuse IMO.
Shrekko
13-04-2024, 08:48 PM
Marcondes will get pesters after today but imo he’s just two mental steps ahead of most of the rest of the team, no idea why he didn’t shoot when he got it just inside the box and squared to Cadden mind you.
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Some Hibs fans just fall in love with players like Marcondes before they’ve even done anything to justify it.
He’s been utterly woeful in most of his games for us and it has nothing to do with being ‘mental steps ahead’ of his team mates. That’s basically an excuse that he doesn’t deserve to have made for him based on zero evidence.
JimBHibees
13-04-2024, 08:58 PM
Both *****. End of
Fish was very good today
JimBHibees
13-04-2024, 09:01 PM
Marcondes has been a huge disappointment.
Bit odd he gets kept on no way would i have taken Boyle off in front of him. Boyle wasn’t great but having legs to chase after defenders late on is quite important i would have thought when one up
TrinityHFC
13-04-2024, 09:07 PM
Marcondes obviously has ability but he just doesn’t positively impact games which is hugely disappointing. Gives the ball away far too easily for someone who probably has more talent than most players in this league. Certainly not worth us paying more than we can afford for.
I'd be looking to keep Fish, if the price is right. Think he is very good for his age and he will only get better.
With Marcondes, the entire team is built around having him in his best position and we've been awful. Not worth the money it would take to bring him in.
LewysGot2
13-04-2024, 09:31 PM
Fish is still very young, especially for a CH. He's 21. He's going to be inconsistent at that age at this level.
He was good today. I think he'll go on to have a good career.
Tyler Durden
13-04-2024, 09:38 PM
Bit odd he gets kept on no way would i have taken Boyle off in front of him. Boyle wasn’t great but having legs to chase after defenders late on is quite important i would have thought when one up
The 93rd minute, a long throw is coming into our box and we have Marcondes as the man trying to win the first header 🤦*♂️
Sums up Montgomerys inability to see a game out. Crazy stuff
Alan62
13-04-2024, 09:39 PM
I wouldn’t keep Marcondes. He shows the odd flash of talent but he doesn’t do enough. Maolida is excellent. I would work hard to keep him. Fish is a good young player. Again, I would keep. We’re going to need to clear a few folks out though. Starting with the manager.
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Mcbizz1998
13-04-2024, 09:41 PM
It boggles my tiny mind that anyone wants to keep Fish. We don’t have the luxury of getting him in the hope that one day he will learn to be a defender, we need players who can operate at our level now.
Only way I would take him is if we immediately loaned him out for experience because if he is in our defence at start of next season then nothing will change.
Stuart93
13-04-2024, 09:45 PM
Ones a young lad who’s not that great
Another’s a half decent player who’s getting overinflated premier league wages
The Wireless
13-04-2024, 10:00 PM
Just for the life of me I don’t see where the hype is coming from regarding Marcondes. On an earlier thread his signing was compared to Latapy’s. Not in a million years for me anyway. But Hey Ho it is about opinions.
we are hibs
14-04-2024, 07:31 AM
Marcondes didn't play well and hasn't for weeks but he set up 2 chances last week and 3 yesterday that weren't taken by the players around him.
The Modfather
14-04-2024, 07:35 AM
Just for the life of me I don’t see where the hype is coming from regarding Marcondes. On an earlier thread his signing was compared to Latapy’s. Not in a million years for me anyway. But Hey Ho it is about opinions.
Emiliano has real quality, at least as much as Maolida. However if he can’t translate that into goals and assists it’s of little use and a main reason we find ourselves in the bottom 6. Maolida is working with the same limitations around him as Emiliano but that hasn’t stopped him contributing in nearly every game he has played.
Emilia is going through the motions IMO.
Gmack7
14-04-2024, 08:16 AM
Not much better than Levitt, hopefully neither are here next season
LaMotta
14-04-2024, 08:19 AM
Marcondes didn't play well and hasn't for weeks but he set up 2 chances last week and 3 yesterday that weren't taken by the players around him.
:agree:
Emiliano has real quality, at least as much as Maolida. However if he can’t translate that into goals and assists it’s of little use and a main reason we find ourselves in the bottom 6. Maolida is working with the same limitations around him as Emiliano but that hasn’t stopped him contributing in nearly every game he has played.
Emilia is going through the motions IMO.
I think thats unfair, think he has been giving 100%. I think he is struggling with his mobility, looks devoud of pace and sharpness.
ChuckNor
14-04-2024, 08:23 AM
Wouldn’t take either. Fish has been dreadful defensively. Marcondes is a myth. Hasn’t contributed since the derby.
hibee-boys
14-04-2024, 08:26 AM
I saw flashes of play in Marcondes play in his first game where I thought he would absolutely dominate games. Unfortunately he’s been very underwhelming since, an established EPL should be a stand out in this league and he’s been far from it. No danger we should be breaking the bank to keep him. We could probably get at least 3 quality additions with proven SPL experience for the money he’d be on each week.
I’m not fussed about Fish either way, show glimpses of great defensively play but has been an integral part of a defensive line that haemorrhages goals, and important ones at that. Is he part of the problem or is it coaching, team tactics…..I don’t know.
JohnM1875
14-04-2024, 08:29 AM
I saw flashes of play in Marcondes play in his first game where I thought he would absolutely dominate games. Unfortunately he’s been very underwhelming since, an established EPL should be a stand out in this league and he’s been far from it. No danger we should be breaking the bank to keep him. We could probably get at least 3 quality additions with proven SPL experience for the money he’d be on each week.
I’m not fussed about Fish either way, show glimpses of great defensively play but has been an integral part of a defensive line that haemorrhages goals, and important ones at that. Is he part of the problem or is it coaching, team tactics…..I don’t know.
To defend Marcondes slightly, he isn't an established EPL player. He's played one Premier League game for Bournemouth. Played plenty in good championship sides though.
Pedantic_Hibee
14-04-2024, 08:30 AM
I’d get rid of them all apart from Maolida. They’re embedded in the loser culture that dominates this club.
We have a team and a club that is full of losers with a loser mentality.
mcohibs
14-04-2024, 08:30 AM
Just for the life of me I don’t see where the hype is coming from regarding Marcondes. On an earlier thread his signing was compared to Latapy’s. Not in a million years for me anyway. But Hey Ho it is about opinions.
People blinded by the premier league tag. He’s been average for weeks, had a good start at Hibs when he had something to prove. Now it’s almost as if he thinks he’s above us tbh so he hardly tries his arse. In fact he spends half the game rolling about on his arse.
Also been a couple of times this season where it’s looked like he’s wanted to take a penalty off someone, Never been a fan of that. Think it was one of the Longbangers boys said about Marcondes that he’s on old firm level wages but looks so far off that level, he’d get nowhere near either of those squads on current form.
LewysGot2
14-04-2024, 08:37 AM
People blinded by the premier league tag. He’s been average for weeks, had a good start at Hibs when he had something to prove. Now it’s almost as if he thinks he’s above us tbh so he hardly tries his arse. In fact he spends half the game rolling about on his arse.
Also been a couple of times this season where it’s looked like he’s wanted to take a penalty off someone, Never been a fan of that. Think it was one of the Longbangers boys said about Marcondes that he’s on old firm level wages but looks so far off that level, he’d get nowhere near either of those squads on current form.
He was trying to get the ball off Myziane yesterday 🙄
Paulie Walnuts
14-04-2024, 08:56 AM
People blinded by the premier league tag. He’s been average for weeks, had a good start at Hibs when he had something to prove. Now it’s almost as if he thinks he’s above us tbh so he hardly tries his arse. In fact he spends half the game rolling about on his arse.
Also been a couple of times this season where it’s looked like he’s wanted to take a penalty off someone, Never been a fan of that. Think it was one of the Longbangers boys said about Marcondes that he’s on old firm level wages but looks so far off that level, he’d get nowhere near either of those squads on current form.
People always get blinded by the EPL tag. We had folk on here claiming it was unfathomable that we’d signed Kenneh and that he was an absolutely unbelievable player. I refuse to believe for a second that these folk had even seen him play considering he’d never played higher than Leeds reserves. As it was though, he was coming from an EPL team and anyone who didn’t buy into the idea he was going to be the next Patrick Vieira was clueless.
Phil MaGlass
14-04-2024, 02:14 PM
Fish will come good, still young, will be worth a fortune in a year or two. Good player there
NorthNorfolkHFC
14-04-2024, 02:54 PM
I wouldn’t take Marcondes. Not after the past five games. Total charlatan.
He hasn’t influenced games in the slightest,
Compare him to the wee Ross County lad who is just back fit. Bossed the midfield against Rangers today.
It’s so bad at Hibs I can’t even mind a marquee win.
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Unseen work
14-04-2024, 02:59 PM
Fish will come good, still young, will be worth a fortune in a year or two. Good player there
And that’s fine if he was our player, the issue is we need a different type of centre half at the moment.
Not developing Fish into that player.
I’d take him back on a permanent if he was partnered with an experienced left sided centre half, but not on loan.
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