Weekend officials

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

For our trip to Ibrox:

Referee: David Dickinson
AR1: David McGeachie
AR2: Ross Macleod
Fourth Official: Colin Steven

VAR: Andrew Dallas
AVAR: David Roome

Dickinson appears to have reffed us twice this season, both were games against killie (monty's first game in charge and a 1-0 win for us)

His last game was killie vs Rangers where the latter got their customary pen...

[18Craig75]

David Dickinson - the well known Rangers supporter who was smiling at Clement after they scored during their final v Aberdeen. Supported by Andrew Dallas on VAR.

I was considering going but may have to change my mind on that…

[matty_f]

David Dickinson - the well known Rangers supporter who was smiling at Clement after they scored during their final v Aberdeen. Supported by Andrew Dallas on VAR.

I was considering going but may have to change my mind on that…

There's no way anyone's getting anything in their favour against Rangers or Celtic now. The league is too tight for the referees to contemplate a decision that would potentially cost either team the title.


Any decision that's up to 70/30 against either will still go their way, especially in their home games.

It's simply not worth the grief they'll get now - they'll take the path of least resistance with each decision.

Expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Heaven help us with their ****my fans, biased officials and toxic media, we really need to on our toes on Saturday

[Partyraiser]

There's no way anyone's getting anything in their favour against Rangers or Celtic now. The league is too tight for the referees to contemplate a decision that would potentially cost either team the title.


Any decision that's up to 70/30 against either will still go their way, especially in their home games.

It's simply not worth the grief they'll get now - they'll take the path of least resistance with each decision.

Expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well.

As depressing as it is, this is so true. Really makes you wonder what the point is?! Kudos to all those making the journey but we all know what's coming

[zitelli62]

I agree what's the point there all corrupt, what we need is all the other clubs to stick together and break away from the uglies. We would have a competitive league without them sadly its just a pipedream.

[JimBHibees]

There's no way anyone's getting anything in their favour against Rangers or Celtic now. The league is too tight for the referees to contemplate a decision that would potentially cost either team the title.


Any decision that's up to 70/30 against either will still go their way, especially in their home games.

It's simply not worth the grief they'll get now - they'll take the path of least resistance with each decision.

Expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well.

Nail on the head.

[JimBHibees]

David Dickinson - the well known Rangers supporter who was smiling at Clement after they scored during their final v Aberdeen. Supported by Andrew Dallas on VAR.

I was considering going but may have to change my mind on that…

Think it was the Hearts semi final where he beamed as if he had a teenage crush on him.

[flash]

There's no way anyone's getting anything in their favour against Rangers or Celtic now. The league is too tight for the referees to contemplate a decision that would potentially cost either team the title.


Any decision that's up to 70/30 against either will still go their way, especially in their home games.

It's simply not worth the grief they'll get now - they'll take the path of least resistance with each decision.

Expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well.

This is undoubtedly true.

To be honest it's not just here it happens.

If you read as much about football around the world as I have it soon becomes clear that favouritism and bias towards the biggest clubs is endemic practically everywhere.

[B.H.F.C]

Doesn’t matter who it is.

In the cup game against them a couple of weeks ago, there was fair argument to be had as to why the big decisions went the way they did (their way obviously). But I’ve never seen such an obvious example of two teams on the same pitch being refereed so differently. Right from the start, the way McLean was with the players, the way he gestured to Boyle to get up when he went down in the build up to the first goal, to the way he pretty much ignored Boyle when he was lying unconscious.

Came away from that game wondering what the point is. Will probably come away thinking similar on Saturday.

[WhileTheChief..]

There's no way anyone's getting anything in their favour against Rangers or Celtic now. The league is too tight for the referees to contemplate a decision that would potentially cost either team the title.


Any decision that's up to 70/30 against either will still go their way, especially in their home games.

It's simply not worth the grief they'll get now - they'll take the path of least resistance with each decision.

Expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well.

Well at least you’ve covered all bases so you can say you said so if any of this happens!!

You gotta wonder why anyone at the club thinks it’s worthwhile playing the game though. Maybe we should just not show up and forfeit the points to make a point?

[flash]

Well at least you’ve covered all bases so you can say you said so if any of this happens!!

You gotta wonder why anyone at the club thinks it’s worthwhile playing the game though. Maybe we should just not show up and forfeit the points to make a point?

Are you suggesting there isn't an issue?

[BILLYHIBS]

Didn’t see the cup game but a few normally sensible Hibs fans I spoke to suggested Hibs should have walked off ?

Not hopeful for Saturday

Will be interesting if we can get the first goal preferably one that is allowed to stand

[Hibiza]

Doesn't really matter - all the same .

[WhileTheChief..]

Are you suggesting there isn't an issue?

Yup, other than refs making mistakes, which happens in every game in every league.

I don’t believe for a second that there are refs who set out to punish Hibs.

[Partyraiser]

Yup, other than refs making mistakes, which happens in every game in every league.

I don’t believe for a second that there are refs who set out to punish Hibs.

I think the issue is that the "mistakes" only ever happen against us. When's the last time a "mistake" went in our favour?

[VoltaireHibs]

Think it was the Hearts semi final where he beamed as if he had a teenage crush on him.

These guys grow up dreaming of playing for the Huns, you can't blame a guy for smiling when he realises his dream. 😁

[Cod Boy]

There's no way anyone's getting anything in their favour against Rangers or Celtic now. The league is too tight for the referees to contemplate a decision that would potentially cost either team the title.


Any decision that's up to 70/30 against either will still go their way, especially in their home games.

It's simply not worth the grief they'll get now - they'll take the path of least resistance with each decision.

Expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well.

Motherwell conceded a penalty at ibrox recently and still won

[flash]

Yup, other than refs making mistakes, which happens in every game in every league.

I don’t believe for a second that there are refs who set out to punish Hibs.

Neither do I to be fair.

My point is more that the biggest two clubs get far less "mistakes" against them than the rest of us.

[B.H.F.C]

Yup, other than refs making mistakes, which happens in every game in every league.

I don’t believe for a second that there are refs who set out to punish Hibs.

But do you think we’ll be refereed equally against Rangers on Saturday?

If roles have been reversed the last time would it have been a penalty for Hibs and two red cards for Rangers for the same offences?

[WhileTheChief..]

But do you think we’ll be refereed equally against Rangers on Saturday?

If roles have been reversed the last time would it have been a penalty for Hibs and two red cards for Rangers for the same offences?

Ask me after the game :greengrin

I never look to see who the ref is before any of our games, It's just not something that's ever crossed my mind.

I'd imagine that no matter who was named as ref this weekend, this thread would be the same.

[Fratelli]

There's no way anyone's getting anything in their favour against Rangers or Celtic now. The league is too tight for the referees to contemplate a decision that would potentially cost either team the title.


Any decision that's up to 70/30 against either will still go their way, especially in their home games.

It's simply not worth the grief they'll get now - they'll take the path of least resistance with each decision.

Expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well.

💯 Matty.

For Hibs to get anything from Saturday, we have to play the almost perfect game - take our chances, no tackles (fair or otherwise) inside or just outside the box and be absolutely whiter than white when it comes to grabbing players/jerseys in the area.

It’s unreasonable and unfair to have to play this way but sadly our officials will penalise anything they can to assist The Rangers.

[HibbyAndy]

There's no way anyone's getting anything in their favour against Rangers or Celtic now. The league is too tight for the referees to contemplate a decision that would potentially cost either team the title.


Any decision that's up to 70/30 against either will still go their way, especially in their home games.

It's simply not worth the grief they'll get now - they'll take the path of least resistance with each decision.

Expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well.



So that's not poor refereeing then , That's downright corruption ?

[matty_f]

Yup, other than refs making mistakes, which happens in every game in every league.

I don’t believe for a second that there are refs who set out to punish Hibs.

I didn't say anything about punishing Hibs.

[matty_f]

Motherwell conceded a penalty at ibrox recently and still won

Yeah, I'm not saying we can't win.

[hibsbollah]

Doesn’t matter who it is.

In the cup game against them a couple of weeks ago, there was fair argument to be had as to why the big decisions went the way they did (their way obviously). But I’ve never seen such an obvious example of two teams on the same pitch being refereed so differently. Right from the start, the way McLean was with the players, the way he gestured to Boyle to get up when he went down in the build up to the first goal, to the way he pretty much ignored Boyle when he was lying unconscious.

Came away from that game wondering what the point is. Will probably come away thinking similar on Saturday.

:agree: I’ve seen worse refereeing performances, and ive even seen performances that changed a game even more egregiously. But ive never been at a game where it was more apparent that each team was being reffed to a different standard than that Rangers cup game. McLean was giving us nothing from the first minute to the point where the result was no longer in any doubt. And he did it with an enthusiasm that was nauseating.

[WhileTheChief..]

I didn't say anything about punishing Hibs.

"expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well."

Sounds like punishment to me!!

[matty_f]

"expect a penalty conceded and/or several bookings for Hibs with l possible red cards in there as well."

Sounds like punishment to me!!

I suppose it does, the point I was making was that they'll favour Rangers more than it being about punishing Hibs. There's a difference with the intent.

[degenerated]

I suppose it does, the point I was making was that they'll favour Rangers more than it being about punishing Hibs. There's a difference with the intent.Im not sure, I'm pretty positive there's an added layer of punish Hibs in there too.
Ever since Paul McGinn called them out at Hampden we've had absolute shockers go against us and very few for. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this has been exacerbated any time Hibs have questioned it and they are using VAR in granular detail to help them.

There is no logical explanation for some of the stuff that has happened, or not happened. That's not just random mistakes that will even themselves out.

[matty_f]

Im not sure, I'm pretty positive there's an added layer of punish Hibs in there too.
Ever since Paul McGinn called them out at Hampden we've had absolute shockers go against us and very few for. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this has been exacerbated any time Hibs have questioned it and they are using VAR in granular detail to help them.

There is no logical explanation for some of the stuff that has happened, or not happened. That's not just random mistakes that will even themselves out.
Bear in mind McGinn called them out after another shocker when we were denied a stonewall penalty in that final against Hampden. This goes further back than that!

[degenerated]

Bear in mind McGinn called them out after another shocker when we were denied a stonewall penalty in that final against Hampden. This goes further back than that!I think at that point we were being refereed to a different standard than 2 teams, since then.i think it's fair to say that we've been refereed to a different standard than whatever 11 other teams were/are in the league.

[matty_f]

I think at that point we were being refereed to a different standard than 2 teams, since then.i think it's fair to say that we've been refereed to a different standard than whatever 11 other teams were/are in the league.

Good point.

[JimBHibees]

Didn’t see the cup game but a few normally sensible Hibs fans I spoke to suggested Hibs should have walked off ?

Not hopeful for Saturday

Will be interesting if we can get the first goal preferably one that is allowed to stand

Yep every decision to Rangers that night genuinely ridiculous.

[JimBHibees]

Yup, other than refs making mistakes, which happens in every game in every league.

I don’t believe for a second that there are refs who set out to punish Hibs.

There is no doubt in my mind refs chose not to give Hibs decisions. Surely the evidence of last month ir so is evidence. The Celtic game was evidence enough of different standards at play as was the cup game same tackles yellow Hibs not yellow Rangers.

[JimBHibees]

So that's not poor refereeing then , That's downright corruption ?

Yes it is

[WhileTheChief..]

There is no doubt in my mind refs chose not to give Hibs decisions. Surely the evidence of last month ir so is evidence. The Celtic game was evidence enough of different standards at play as was the cup game same tackles yellow Hibs not yellow Rangers.

Why don't they do that to us in every game and ensure we get relegated?!

It's not evidence at all, not even close. We can all list loads of decisions that went against us, but it's the same for every team.

[JimBHibees]

Why don't they do that to us in every game and ensure we get relegated?!

It's not evidence at all, not even close. We can all list loads of decisions that went against us, but it's the same for every team.

Because some are worse than others? Do you genuinely think all teams are treated the same in the Scottish league? Refereeing has always been run in the West there was only one Edinburgh ref in the first century of the Scottish cup final. Yes I do think Hibs get the wrong end of the stick. This season has been absolutely ridiculous and shouldn't be able to be brushed off as the refs make bad decisions. They make far more bad decisions against us than for. The fact I cannot genuinely think of a meaningful decision we have got all season kind of sums it up. Refs by and large are petrified of making decisions against the big two. Some refs are worse than others and most refs take the easy way out. For years we haven't got decisions from Clancy for example. Have you been watching the recent games ?

[erin go bragh]

After his smirking at the Rangers pen at Hampden, he should be no where near officiating at a Rangers game. Definitely up against it on Saturday 😡

[matty_f]

Because some are worse than others? Do you genuinely think all teams are treated the same in the Scottish league? Refereeing has always been run in the West there was only one Edinburgh ref in the first century of the Scottish cup final. Yes I do think Hibs get the wrong end of the stick. This season has been absolutely ridiculous and shouldn't be able to be brushed off as the refs make bad decisions. They make far more bad decisions against us than for. The fact I cannot genuinely think of a meaningful decision we have got all season kind of sums it up. Refs by and large are petrified of making decisions against the big two. Some refs are worse than others and most refs take the easy way out. For years we haven't got decisions from Clancy for example. Have you been watching the recent games ?

My view is that I tend to agree with this and I think there are decisions and stats that you can point to that at least support that opinion even if they don't go so far as to prove it outright.

Long standing members on here may remember a blog by Tomf about the statistical anomalies of Craig Thomson's handling of Hibs games in the wake of the 2012 final. It's relevant when discussing the attitude towards Hibs to point out that Hibs had made a case to take to the SFA to highlight the issues with that referee and to request a replacement - the SFA announced the referee as Hibs waited to go into to the meeting at Hampden and we all know what happened in that final.

I would love to see what controls are in place to protect the game from bias and corruption. This is a multi million pounds industry where a handful of people have the ability to influence the outcome of a game, whether that's for financial gain or just the chance to be trusted to keep getting the big games but avoiding the controversy of a big decision against the OF, or just for the chance to start out of the spotlight.

Football isn't immune to it, that doesn't mean it's happening but it's certainly not unthinkable.

[Kato]

Im not sure, I'm pretty positive there's an added layer of punish Hibs in there too.
Ever since Paul McGinn called them out at Hampden we've had absolute shockers go against us and very few for. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this has been exacerbated any time Hibs have questioned it and they are using VAR in granular detail to help them.

There is no logical explanation for some of the stuff that has happened, or not happened. That's not just random mistakes that will even themselves out.What about the shockers in the game that took place right before PM spoke out?

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[degenerated]

What about the shockers in the game that took place right before PM spoke out?

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkI agree totally, I had covered that in response to Matty picking up on exactly same point.

Not sure how to link it on Tapatalk but it's 2 posts after one you quoted.

[Kato]

I agree totally, I had covered that in response to Matty picking up on exactly same point.

Not sure how to link it on Tapatalk but it's 2 posts after one you quoted.[emoji106]

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[WhileTheChief..]

Because some are worse than others? Do you genuinely think all teams are treated the same in the Scottish league? Refereeing has always been run in the West there was only one Edinburgh ref in the first century of the Scottish cup final. Yes I do think Hibs get the wrong end of the stick. This season has been absolutely ridiculous and shouldn't be able to be brushed off as the refs make bad decisions. They make far more bad decisions against us than for. The fact I cannot genuinely think of a meaningful decision we have got all season kind of sums it up. Refs by and large are petrified of making decisions against the big two. Some refs are worse than others and most refs take the easy way out. For years we haven't got decisions from Clancy for example. Have you been watching the recent games ?

Why Hibs?

Why do refs have it in for us, and not say, Motherwell, or Dundee?

I really don't see what you see.

If they had it in for us, we'd always be bottom six and out the cups early (crap squad or manager aside!)

[Tyler Durden]

Expect Obita to be under massive pressure in this game. Any kind of foul and he'll be right in the book - their fans will be after him.

[Gloucester Hibs]

I'm expecting a few early bookings for us. Probably for first offences. Get our defenders walking a tightrope early doors.

[Donegal Hibby]

I'm expecting a few early bookings for us. Probably for first offences. Get our defenders walking a tightrope early doors.

A few early bookings I'd say is definitely on the cards in this one possibly leading to a sending off or a penalty too . Leagues to tight for the ref to be upsetting the Hun hordes , Dickinson certainly won't !.

[matty_f]

Why Hibs?

Why do refs have it in for us, and not say, Motherwell, or Dundee?

I really don't see what you see.

If they had it in for us, we'd always be bottom six and out the cups early (crap squad or manager aside!)
We're only just in the top 6 by our fingertips with three games to play.

We got knocked out the league cup after a tight as you'll get offside call and a penalty claim ignored (though for balance, Aberdeen went down to ten men after the ref was left with no choice but to issue a second booking).


We got knocked out the Scottish Cup after having two men sent off and a penalty conceded to Rangers.

[FastEddieFelson]

Doesn’t matter who it is.

In the cup game against them a couple of weeks ago, there was fair argument to be had as to why the big decisions went the way they did (their way obviously). But I’ve never seen such an obvious example of two teams on the same pitch being refereed so differently. Right from the start, the way McLean was with the players, the way he gestured to Boyle to get up when he went down in the build up to the first goal, to the way he pretty much ignored Boyle when he was lying unconscious.

Came away from that game wondering what the point is. Will probably come away thinking similar on Saturday.

Another thing McLean did that I've not seen pointed out anywhere was stop the match to retrieve a missile thrown from the Famous Five and run over to the tunnel to hand it in. Nothing wrong with that in itself obviously, but just moments before there were several objects thrown at Joe Newell when he was on the ground in the box by the South Stand.

I know this was in the aftermath of the sh*tshow at tynecastle, but to highlight missiles from one end but not the other was one of many examples of how he treated the two teams differently that night.

[BILLYHIBS]

Been racking my brains but the only time I can recall getting a decision against Rangers / The Rangers in almost 60 years of watching Hibs was when Stephen McLean gave an obvious The Rangers free-kick to Hibs deep into stoppage time on 21-05-2016 inside their own half

Have to admit I always thought he was fair up until the recent cup tie

Call me paranoid

[Partyraiser]

Been racking my brains but the only time I can recall getting a decision against Rangers / The Rangers in almost 60 years of watching Hibs was when Stephen McLean gave an obvious The Rangers free-kick to Hibs deep into stoppage time on 21-05-2016 inside their own half

Have to admit I always thought he was fair up until the recent cup tie

Call me paranoid

They had a red card overturned on appeal for Lundstrum last season in the 2-2 game. I highly doubt we'd have had that red card overturned on appeal however, given he made zero attempt to play the ball and caught boyle late, high and from behind

[BILLYHIBS]

They had a red card overturned on appeal for Lundstrum last season in the 2-2 game. I highly doubt we'd have had that red card overturned on appeal however, given he made zero attempt to play the ball and caught boyle late, high and from behind

Yip was cynical and deliberate - reduced to yellow on appeal - they also had Freddo sent off for being a fouling wee d#ck when he came on for repeated offences - culminating in a forearm smash to Cabraja

Referee was Willie Gollum

[The Tubs]

We once got a debatable penalty at the home of a club known as Rangers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtTNyP6bHUQ

[BILLYHIBS]

We once got a debatable penalty at the home of a club known as Rangers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtTNyP6bHUQ

Defo pen miles inside the box 😂

[JimBHibees]

My view is that I tend to agree with this and I think there are decisions and stats that you can point to that at least support that opinion even if they don't go so far as to prove it outright.

Long standing members on here may remember a blog by Tomf about the statistical anomalies of Craig Thomson's handling of Hibs games in the wake of the 2012 final. It's relevant when discussing the attitude towards Hibs to point out that Hibs had made a case to take to the SFA to highlight the issues with that referee and to request a replacement - the SFA announced the referee as Hibs waited to go into to the meeting at Hampden and we all know what happened in that final.

I would love to see what controls are in place to protect the game from bias and corruption. This is a multi million pounds industry where a handful of people have the ability to influence the outcome of a game, whether that's for financial gain or just the chance to be trusted to keep getting the big games but avoiding the controversy of a big decision against the OF, or just for the chance to start out of the spotlight.

Football isn't immune to it, that doesn't mean it's happening but it's certainly not unthinkable.

The old Rangers story the compliant succulent media showed in plain sight the corruption in the game as did the Jim Farry non disclosure resignation.

[JimBHibees]

We're only just in the top 6 by our fingertips with three games to play.

We got knocked out the league cup after a tight as you'll get offside call and a penalty claim ignored (though for balance, Aberdeen went down to ten men after the ref was left with no choice but to issue a second booking).


We got knocked out the Scottish Cup after having two men sent off and a penalty conceded to Rangers.

Yeah but apart from them.

[JimBHibees]

Why Hibs?

Why do refs have it in for us, and not say, Motherwell, or Dundee?

I really don't see what you see.

If they had it in for us, we'd always be bottom six and out the cups early (crap squad or manager aside!)

No idea why Hibs all I go on is what I see us getting done over regularly by the same west of Scotland refs. You don't see us on the wrong end of decisions which have been off the scale since January. Do you watch games?

[WhileTheChief..]

No idea why Hibs all I go on is what I see us getting done over regularly by the same west of Scotland refs. You don't see us on the wrong end of decisions which have been off the scale since January. Do you watch games?

I think we've reached the end when we get to this level of chat. Cheers.

[JimBHibees]

I think we've reached the end when we get to this level of chat. Cheers.

Ouch. Good point

[hibsbollah]

I think we've reached the end when we get to this level of chat. Cheers.

Hes got a point.
You pose the question’why Hibs?’ Why not Motherwell/why not another team’. Noone knows the answer to that, obviously, so the question isnt useful.
But the evidence of our own eyes, in the case of 5 games in just 5 weeks over Jan and Feb, incredibly, shows something isnt right. If you watch the games it’s hard to come to any other conclusion. I think youre asking the wrong questions. You should be asking ‘how can this keep happening when theres no obvious explanation?

[Kato]

We once got a debatable penalty at the home of a club known as Rangers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtTNyP6bHUQThat one sticks out.

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[Eyrie]

They had a red card overturned on appeal for Lundstrum last season in the 2-2 game. I highly doubt we'd have had that red card overturned on appeal however, given he made zero attempt to play the ball and caught boyle late, high and from behind

Sticks in the craw to admit it, but Doyle-Hayes should have been red carded rather than booked for a similar challenge in the first half. Downgrading Lundstrom was the only fair outcome.

And that's what still pisses me off about the Porteous straight red at Ibrox when earlier in the same game a nasty over the ball lunge by Lundstrom on Doig wasn't even a foul.

[JimBHibees]

Been racking my brains but the only time I can recall getting a decision against Rangers / The Rangers in almost 60 years of watching Hibs was when Stephen McLean gave an obvious The Rangers free-kick to Hibs deep into stoppage time on 21-05-2016 inside their own half

Have to admit I always thought he was fair up until the recent cup tie

Call me paranoid

His performance last season at Parkhead when he sent off Youan for next to nothing, didn't give us a pen only to be corrected by Var, gave them two penalties one corrected again by Var for the Celtic player falling over his feet was a particular recent highlight.

[BILLYHIBS]

His performance last season at Parkhead when he sent off Youan for next to nothing, didn't give us a pen only to be corrected by Var, gave them two penalties one corrected again by Var for the Celtic player falling over his feet was a particular recent highlight.

Forgot about that the Youan sending off was a shocker

I honestly believe that Refs in Scotland show an unconscious bias against us and I do not think I am alone

You only have to go to the games or look at the stats the last The Rangers game for example two sendings off a penalty loads of ridiculous decisions spoiling the game as a contest hardly worth paying to watch tbh

Will be interesting to see what pearls of wisdom pop up from the rule book on Saturday against us

Still shaking my head over recent penalties awarded against us versus Celtic accidental clash of heads and Celtic being awarded a pen when their shot on target did not go in if that was Hibs play on in both incidents

[JimBHibees]

Forgot about that the Youan sending off was a shocker

I honestly believe that Refs in Scotland show an unconscious bias against us and I do not think I am alone

You only have to go to the games or look at the stats the last The Rangers game for example two sendings off a penalty loads of ridiculous decisions spoiling the game as a contest hardly worth paying to watch tbh

Will be interesting to see what pearls of wisdom pop up from the rule book on Saturday against us

Still shaking my head over recent penalties awarded against us versus Celtic accidental clash of heads and Celtic being awarded a pen when their shot on target did not go in if that was Hibs play on in both incidents

Your final paragraph is spot on in both instances it is play on no minute analysis of contact to contrive a decision. Even more bizarre in that game was that there was no apparent review of Boyle pen or the Ralston handball both of which we didn't get and they would have got.

[Carheenlea]

Your final paragraph is spot on in both instances it is play on no minute analysis of contact to contrive a decision. Even more bizarre in that game was that there was no apparent review of Boyle pen or the Ralston handball both of which we didn't get and they would have got.

For those incidents you can definitely point to the meeting Rangers called with SFA in the fall out over the only decision that has went against them this season to discuss the matter with some urgency.

Since then, the Old Firm have got every decision going in their favour, however marginal, in order to ensure that a title race is not going to be decided on a contentious decision against either.

The Old Firm can still drop points as we’ve seen, and we can still get something on Saturday, but it won’t be because of a contentious decision going in our favour. We also have to be on the absolute top of our game to earn anything, whereas with the ‘benefit of doubt’ advantage Rangers will have can mean they can still dig out a win if not performing to their best.

Because Celtic are getting the exact same advantage, Rangers may come to regret calling their emergency meeting with the SFA as the run-in plays out.

[One Day Soon]

:agree: I’ve seen worse refereeing performances, and ive even seen performances that changed a game even more egregiously. But ive never been at a game where it was more apparent that each team was being reffed to a different standard than that Rangers cup game. McLean was giving us nothing from the first minute to the point where the result was no longer in any doubt. And he did it with an enthusiasm that was nauseating.

This. It was perhaps the most naked display of double standards I have ever seen in the football context.

[One Day Soon]

For our trip to Ibrox:

Referee: David Dickinson
AR1: David McGeachie
AR2: Ross Macleod
Fourth Official: Colin Steven

VAR: Andrew Dallas
AVAR: David Roome

Dickinson appears to have reffed us twice this season, both were games against killie (monty's first game in charge and a 1-0 win for us)

His last game was killie vs Rangers where the latter got their customary pen...


That's a particularly 'staunch' line up. Decision: Penalty to Rangers.

[FastEddieFelson]

Been racking my brains but the only time I can recall getting a decision against Rangers / The Rangers in almost 60 years of watching Hibs was when Stephen McLean gave an obvious The Rangers free-kick to Hibs deep into stoppage time on 21-05-2016 inside their own half

Have to admit I always thought he was fair up until the recent cup tie

Call me paranoid

Thought that was a clear free kick to Hibs for a high boot on McGeough, although most of the players seemed to think it was a free kick to the Huns as well

[BILLYHIBS]

Thought that was a clear free kick to Hibs for a high boot on McGeough, although most of the players seemed to think it was a free kick to the Huns as well

We’ll take it 😂

[JimBHibees]

That's a particularly 'staunch' line up. Decision: Penalty to Rangers.

Yes even David Rome had to add an additional O to appear staunch 😄

[Monktonhall 7]

Sky reporting that Rodgers is given a 2 game ban, but one suspended. He was way over the top compared to Paul McGinns “inept” comment which earned him a 2 match suspension. They really are consistently inconsistent.

[B.H.F.C]

Sky reporting that Rodgers is given a 2 game ban, but one suspended. He was way over the top compared to Paul McGinns “inept” comment which earned him a 2 match suspension. They really are consistently inconsistent.

Inconsistent is one word for it. They just didn’t want to sit him in the stand at Ibrox, simple as that.

[Victor]

Sky reporting that Rodgers is given a 2 game ban, but one suspended. He was way over the top compared to Paul McGinns “inept” comment which earned him a 2 match suspension. They really are consistently inconsistent.

Why can’t Managers call out poor decisions made by referees? They are only stating what everyone else is saying. I can’t think of any other profession/body/institution that is protected from criticism like referees. There has to be an independent review body that legitimate complaints, about referees, can be referred, without Clubs being sanctioned.

[Monktonhall 7]

Why can’t Managers call out poor decisions made by referees? They are only stating what everyone else is saying. I can’t think of any other profession/body/institution that is protected from criticism like referees. There has to be an independent review body that legitimate complaints, about referees, can be referred, without Clubs being sanctioned.

I agree with you, but right now they can’t under current SFA rules, and as usual a decision is made that allows him to be in the dugout for the Rangers game, but only 18 months ago the same governing body suspended our player for 2 games because he called them inept. It’s cheating.

[Victor]

I agree with you, but right now they can’t under current SFA rules, and as usual a decision is made that allows him to be in the dugout for the Rangers game, but only 18 months ago the same governing body suspended our player for 2 games because he called them inept. It’s cheating.

There is definitely something wrong with the current rules as they stand. As others have said, we have a two tier system. I don’t think anyone can argue that we and other teams in the league, aren’t treated the same way as the Old Firm.

[degenerated]

There is definitely something wrong with the current rules as they stand. As others have said, we have a two tier system. I don’t think anyone can argue that we and other teams in the league, aren’t treated the same way as the Old Firm.I thought there was a 2 tier system at play but the last few months have absolutely convinced me it is actually a 3 tier one

[percy veer]

rangers will get a pen for handball in play, from the ref that was on var at aberdeen when he never gave us a stonewaller.

steven mclean when we scored at parkhead to get go one nil up he done everything he could to make sure celtic won, 9 minutes injury time first half sending of youan and non pens for celtic even booking the manager for kicking the ball back on the pitch even though the ball boys were at it all day. a cheat.

[cubehindthegoal]

I suppose it does, the point I was making was that they'll favour Rangers more than it being about punishing Hibs. There's a difference with the intent.

That’s what I thought your point was too, not sure where or why punishment was viewed to come into it .. I am always amazed though, how some Hibs fans defend and protect the corrupt status quo .. have they been watching Scottish football ? Or just listening to the media, and are brainwashed perhaps.

Some of the decisions are so biased, they make you laugh … but not in happiness, just in disgust and total bewilderment at how people can watch and believe ... it’s like reliving my first reading of Animal Farm as a young teenager .. what’s in front of your eyes … continually … and yet ignore, and then actually try to justify … Orwell would’ve shook his head at some of the stuff said here …

[vuefrom1875]

For our trip to Ibrox:

Referee: David Dickinson
AR1: David McGeachie
AR2: Ross Macleod
Fourth Official: Colin Steven

VAR: Andrew Dallas
AVAR: David Roome

Dickinson appears to have reffed us twice this season, both were games against killie (monty's first game in charge and a 1-0 win for us)

His last game was killie vs Rangers where the latter got their customary pen...

Doesn't matter who the ref is we're playing against 12 + var officials......Lanarkshire ref cabal.. et all...if you play in green colours your handicapped!!

[vuefrom1875]

This is undoubtedly true.

To be honest it's not just here it happens.

If you read as much about football around the world as I have it soon becomes clear that favouritism and bias towards the biggest clubs is endemic practically everywhere...more prevalent here my friend.

[hibsbollah]

Its a sad state of affairs. We have some of the most exciting talent in our side i can remember for a long time, we’re starting to show some decent performances from time to time, but i just cant believe we’ll get a fair official against them at the moment. It makes me wonder why i even bother when i feel like that.

[Geo_1875]

..more prevalent here my friend.

It's not really more prevalent here. It's simply because it's on our doorstep that it appears so. Watch the EPL and the top teams get more than their fair share of decisions. The hierarchy must be maintained.

[flash]

..more prevalent here my friend.

Hardly. Juve were relegated for bribery and corruption involving refs in Italy. Barca were fined £7 million for bribing the referees association in Spain. Corruption in places like Greece and Turkey is common knowledge.