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CentreLine
17-03-2024, 07:43 AM
Didn’t have a lot to do yesterday but came on at half time and started with a great stop. Was then solid for the remainder of the match. I would like to see him get a bit more game time.
hibsbollah
17-03-2024, 07:51 AM
He made one bad mistake in a previous Ross County game. I did notice that his distribution was extremely good in that game, including some perfect long balls out wide to immediately threaten the opposing goal. Murray Johnson is an excellent keeper who will only get better, but id like to see more of Wollacott too.
Allant1981
17-03-2024, 08:15 AM
Been really hard to say how good/bad he is as he never gets a run of games
BILLYHIBS
17-03-2024, 08:32 AM
Would really need to see more of him in competitive games before passing judgement
Did some good things and some not so good yesterday ( booted the ball out of play at one point ) but overall did ok
Defo need a new reliable goalkeeper going into next season either as a starter or back up that can make a bold bid for the gloves
HIBS NUTS
17-03-2024, 08:57 AM
He doesn’t look a number 1 to me, very hesitant, and his distribution isn’t great.
But as others have said, he’s hardly played.
Pretty Boy
17-03-2024, 09:06 AM
I quite like the look of him.
He looks very comfortable with the ball at his feet which is probably the biggest part of being a modern goalkeeper.
I'd like to see him get a run at some point. Marshall has largely been good this season but you know what you have with him. It would be good to see Wollacott get an extended run. Obviously as long as we have something to play for that's not likely as it will be what the manager considers his strongest team that will start.
Callum_62
17-03-2024, 10:22 AM
Opinions eh [emoji1787]
Over the course of 6 posts we've had his distribution is great and he comfortable with the ball at his feet to his distribution isn't great
For me had had 1 howler buts he's done fine otherwise - hard to judge given how his game time has panned out
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O'Rourke3
17-03-2024, 10:31 AM
Opinions eh [emoji1787]
Over the course of 6 posts we've had his distribution is great and he comfortable with the ball at his feet to his distribution isn't great
For me had had 1 howler buts he's done fine otherwise - hard to judge given how his game time has panned out
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I thought he was very solid. Maybe overegged the save but I think that was as much for him being sure as needing to do it. Think it would be nearly unanimous to have Marciano back and his kicking from dead ball or hand was terrifying.
Where I think he'll get a lot of support from the crowd is he seems to like to get the ball up the park far, and quickly. That should settle some the howls from the stands as opposed to what's chucked at Marsh playing out to Fish or Rocky...
Brooster
17-03-2024, 12:06 PM
I don't think he's good enough, no urgency, dodgy distribution and flaps at cross balls.
Did Marshall go off injured?
andrew70
17-03-2024, 12:09 PM
I don't think he's good enough, no urgency, dodgy distribution and flaps at cross balls.
Did Marshall go off injured?
Had a stiff neck before the game so didn’t want to take any chances according to Montgomery.
Pretty hard to get game time when Marshall has all the experience and hasn't really done anything wrong to suggest he shouldn't get the no.1 spot, I'm still of the belief we need a really good solid keeper better than both.
I'm_cabbaged
17-03-2024, 12:39 PM
Pretty hard to get game time when Marshall has all the experience and hasn't really done anything wrong to suggest he shouldn't get the no.1 spot, I'm still of the belief we need a really good solid keeper better than both.
What about four days ago? 🤣🤣
What about four days ago? 🤣🤣
YBH he's made a few bloopers since he came but obviously the manager feels his experience is essential for our young central defenders, as I said I hope we get better than both in for the summer.
I'm_cabbaged
17-03-2024, 12:45 PM
YBH he's made a few bloopers since he came but obviously the manager feels his experience is essential for our young central defenders, as I said I hope we get better than both in for the summer.
Aye, agree with that.
Think we need 2 keepers in the summer, get Murray out on loan at a decent level, haven’t been impressed with Wollacott, difficult for him not getting many games but I think I’d rather we replaced him, I thought he looked poor in the preseason games in Spain.
Think we need 2 keepers in the summer, get Murray out on loan at a decent level, haven’t been impressed with Wollacott, difficult for him not getting many games but I think I’d rather we replaced him, I thought he looked poor in the preseason games in Spain.
Looking at his WIKI, he's a bit of a journeyman, when at Bristol City he was loaned out for 5 seasons to lower league teams, a decent few games at Swindon and just 16 at Charlton, 10 seasons and 129 games at 27 years old.
hibsbollah
17-03-2024, 02:13 PM
Looking at his WIKI, he's a bit of a journeyman, when at Bristol City he was loaned out for 5 seasons to lower league teams, a decent few games at Swindon and just 16 at Charlton, 10 seasons and 129 games at 27 years old.
I'd rather a keeper with a load of lower league seasons games under his belt, travelling around is a good way of learning the trade I think, better than training every day in a bigger club with better players and facilities but not getting the game time. Just looking at who he was up against, at Swindon he was behind their player of the season Sol Brynn owned by Middlesbrough, (another 'permanent loan' guy who has been at 4 different teams in 2 years). At Charlton he was behind Scott Fraser, ex Dundee Utd keeper now warming the manky bench at Tynecastle, but actually Wollacott got 20 league games last season so was used regularly, and the Charlton forums were quite positive about him.
I'd rather a keeper with a load of lower league seasons games under his belt, travelling around is a good way of learning the trade I think, better than training every day in a bigger club with better players and facilities but not getting the game time. Just looking at who he was up against, at Swindon he was behind their player of the season Sol Brynn owned by Middlesbrough, (another 'permanent loan' guy who has been at 4 different teams in 2 years). At Charlton he was behind Scott Fraser, ex Dundee Utd keeper now warming the manky bench at Tynecastle, but actually Wollacott got 20 league games last season so was used regularly, and the Charlton forums were quite positive about him.
I must admit that when Marshall was having a good few poor games earlier, I was surprised Jojo didn't force his way into the manager's thoughts, he only seems to get a game when Marsh's injured.
Cod Boy
17-03-2024, 03:28 PM
He will be away in the summer
JimBHibees
17-03-2024, 03:34 PM
I'd rather a keeper with a load of lower league seasons games under his belt, travelling around is a good way of learning the trade I think, better than training every day in a bigger club with better players and facilities but not getting the game time. Just looking at who he was up against, at Swindon he was behind their player of the season Sol Brynn owned by Middlesbrough, (another 'permanent loan' guy who has been at 4 different teams in 2 years). At Charlton he was behind Scott Fraser, ex Dundee Utd keeper now warming the manky bench at Tynecastle, but actually Wollacott got 20 league games last season so was used regularly, and the Charlton forums were quite positive about him.
Scott Fraser isn't a goalie he is an attacking midfielder
JimBHibees
17-03-2024, 03:35 PM
What about four days ago? 🤣🤣
Personally think that was Obita fault.
eastmainsmsh
17-03-2024, 03:37 PM
Would need a run of games to show his capabilities did well enough yesterday tho
hibsbollah
17-03-2024, 03:40 PM
Scott Fraser isn't a goalie he is an attacking midfielder
Oh dear, that makes a mess of my research credentials :faf: get the right position. Apologies, Ashley Maynard Brewer as im sure youve found out, was the starter for them. Another guy whos bounced around on loan, not sure what my point is anymore mind :greengrin
cameronw-hfc
17-03-2024, 04:59 PM
A bit strange when Marshall has been consistently average he's not gotten more of a chance, although doesn't mean he's not good enough. Some managers will refuse to change keeper until its absolutely necessary.
Have a feeling he will go at the end of the season and we will never actually know. Can't judge him on the mistake the game he played earlier this season, he'd had a delayed start, first proper chance, everyone makes mistakes and just a shame he's a keeper, so his are noticeable.
I'd give him the run in, see what he's got. He might turn out to be half decent, he must have something to play at champ level in England and internationally.
Pretty Boy
17-03-2024, 05:01 PM
A bit strange when Marshall has been consistently average he's not gotten more of a chance, although doesn't mean he's not good enough. Some managers will refuse to change keeper until its absolutely necessary.
Have a feeling he will go at the end of the season and we will never actually know. Can't judge him on the mistake the game he played earlier this season, he'd had a delayed start, first proper chance, everyone makes mistakes and just a shame he's a keeper, so his are noticeable.
I'd give him the run in, see what he's got. He might turn out to be half decent, he must have something to play at champ level in England and internationally.
That mistake will be remembered but he had a decent game that night. I would have liked to have seen him get a run at that point.
Such is the life of the keeper that a mistake is generally costly and anything done before that is forgotten.
Brooster
17-03-2024, 05:08 PM
A bit strange when Marshall has been consistently average he's not gotten more of a chance, although doesn't mean he's not good enough. Some managers will refuse to change keeper until its absolutely necessary.
Have a feeling he will go at the end of the season and we will never actually know. Can't judge him on the mistake the game he played earlier this season, he'd had a delayed start, first proper chance, everyone makes mistakes and just a shame he's a keeper, so his are noticeable.
I'd give him the run in, see what he's got. He might turn out to be half decent, he must have something to play at champ level in England and internationally.
I disagree with your first line. I think Marshall has been one of our best players since Christmas.
cameronw-hfc
17-03-2024, 05:15 PM
I disagree with your first line. I think Marshall has been one of our best players since Christmas.
I don't agree, but I get why others see that. I think he's been better since Christmas, but overall his spell hasn't been great at all at Hibs and a few ok months isn't enough to convince me otherwise.
JimBHibees
17-03-2024, 05:49 PM
Oh dear, that makes a mess of my research credentials :faf: get the right position. Apologies, Ashley Maynard Brewer as im sure youve found out, was the starter for them. Another guy whos bounced around on loan, not sure what my point is anymore mind :greengrin
:greengrin
MWHIBBIES
17-03-2024, 06:00 PM
I don't agree, but I get why others see that. I think he's been better since Christmas, but overall his spell hasn't been great at all at Hibs and a few ok months isn't enough to convince me otherwise.
He's been better, made the odd decent save, but he's still pretty awful. Think Wallacott should get the rest of the season too.
Brooster
17-03-2024, 06:39 PM
He's been better, made the odd decent save, but he's still pretty awful. Think Wallacott should get the rest of the season too.
I've read some tosh on here recently but cmon eh.
MWHIBBIES
18-03-2024, 04:16 AM
I've read some tosh on here recently but cmon eh.
What a shocker. You just being rude instead of properly replying.
Marshall is a poor goalie. The stats back that up.
JimBHibees
18-03-2024, 06:26 AM
He's been better, made the odd decent save, but he's still pretty awful. Think Wallacott should get the rest of the season too.
Think Marshall has been much improved and wouldn't be dropping him anytime soon for Wollacott.
JimBHibees
18-03-2024, 06:27 AM
What a shocker. You just being rude instead of properly replying.
Marshall is a poor goalie. The stats back that up.
He is correct though
hibsbollah
18-03-2024, 06:31 AM
What a shocker. You just being rude instead of properly replying.
Marshall is a poor goalie. The stats back that up.
You must accept hes pulled off some decent saves in recent weeks and put his form slump behind him thought? I actually think were in a decent position at the moment, a decent, 6/10 up and down to 8/10veteran who can pass on knowledge to new signing (Wollacott) and promising youngster (Johnson)
Broxburn Greens
18-03-2024, 06:53 AM
Don’t get why folk are so keen to get the pitchforks and burning torches out for Marshall.
Solid goalkeeper who has made some cracking saves of late including saving a penalty in the cup tie (just a pity the rebound was bundled in).
People slate his hesitancy at times to throw the ball quick but he clearly sees opposition players in the line of what looks like a quick clearance and breaking opportunity from the stands. When he does throw it quick it usually connects and we do break.
Aye he’s made some mistakes but what keepers don’t? Arron Ramsdale springs to mind recently.
Dependable pair of hands, in the twilight of his career, I’d have him next season with a view to bringing on his replacement over the course of 24/25 with Marshall mentoring the lad.
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expresso
18-03-2024, 07:15 AM
Pretty hard to get game time when Marshall has all the experience and hasn't really done anything wrong to suggest he shouldn't get the no.1 spot, I'm still of the belief we need a really good solid keeper better than both.
Hasnt really done anything wrong lol
Allant1981
18-03-2024, 07:19 AM
Marshall has been poor tbis season but has been the least of our issues recently, but this is the 4th time(I think) where he has been injured either before or during a game, at his age once you start getting injuries it takes its toll
Forza Fred
18-03-2024, 07:28 AM
I guess with Hanlon and Stevenson not getting a regular game the eyes of those looking for a replacement target will focus on him.
Shrekko
18-03-2024, 07:55 AM
Marshall has been poor tbis season but has been the least of our issues recently, but this is the 4th time(I think) where he has been injured either before or during a game, at his age once you start getting injuries it takes its toll
I mentioned this last week and 1 or 2 folk seemed to imply it was nothing. A goalie being subbed 4 times in one season (and pulling out a game in a warm up too) in less than one season is just way too much.
His form has been decent in recent months but surely we need to be looking for somebody younger and better? We certainly can’t afford a run of form like he had at the end of last season and the start of this - he was a bag of nerves.
Billy Whizz
18-03-2024, 08:14 AM
Jo Jo is away with Ghana squad for their 2 friendlies
VoltaireHibs
18-03-2024, 08:24 AM
He's been better, made the odd decent save, but he's still pretty awful. Think Wallacott should get the rest of the season too.
Disagree. Marshall needs a replacement for next season but the bits and bobs we've seen of Wollacott make me nervous. He looks jittery to me, like the jobs a bit too big for him.
I'd stick with Marshall, steady as we go in that dept.
Crunchie
18-03-2024, 08:36 AM
He's been better, made the odd decent save, but he's still pretty awful. Think Wallacott should get the rest of the season too.
He was awful for a few games a while back but this past 3 months he’s been anything but awful. I think Joe is an able deputy
MWHIBBIES
18-03-2024, 12:12 PM
You must accept hes pulled off some decent saves in recent weeks and put his form slump behind him thought? I actually think were in a decent position at the moment, a decent, 6/10 up and down to 8/10veteran who can pass on knowledge to new signing (Wollacott) and promising youngster (Johnson)
Certainly made some good saves. Like a statue for a few he could've saved, though.
Don't think nearly a year is a form slump tbh. He's been mostly poor for his time here.
Certainly made some good saves. Like a statue for a few he could've saved, though.
Don't think nearly a year is a form slump tbh. He's been mostly poor for his time here.
Agree, I wouldn’t argue against that he’s improved since December and he has made some important saves recently however I think I we where to add up mistakes or how many times you stand scratching your head at how the goal has gone in it would far outweigh the important saves he’s made and we really need a stronger goalkeeper than that, and we won’t get that from Wallacott either so I’d be looking for 2 for the summer
Unseen work
18-03-2024, 02:01 PM
I’ve been impressed with Wollacott every time I’ve seen him.
Pre season he made a couple of really good saves and always looked assured. He should have been our number 1 for a while at the start of the season but unlucky he picked up an injury.
Even agains County when he made the blunder I thought he looked good and was really impressed with his distribution
Monty has gone on record saying he thinks that Marshall is one of the best keepers in the SPL.
Where does anyone think there is a better one?
hibsbollah
19-03-2024, 06:42 AM
Monty has gone on record saying he thinks that Marshall is one of the best keepers in the SPL.
Where does anyone think there is a better one?
It would be surprising if Monty said anything else really. ‘My keeper is an old nag who needs put out to pasture with hands like polo mints’ wouldnt be in keeping with the positivity message.
Monty has gone on record saying he thinks that Marshall is one of the best keepers in the SPL.
Where out there is a better one?
He also praised Jair to the heavens and then replaced him first chance he got, probably not a good idea to tell the world the best keeper at the club is actually hopeless.
Marciano was a better keeper than Marshall we managed to find him I don’t think it would be to difficult a task to find another on his level or above, I actually think there’s not much between marsh and Matt Macey barring distribution favouring Marshall
Hibs90
19-03-2024, 08:50 AM
https://fbref.com/en/comps/40/keepers/Scottish-Premiership-Stats#all_stats_keeper
Tells a story, of course you can intepret the stats however you like :greengrin
hibsbollah
19-03-2024, 12:07 PM
https://fbref.com/en/comps/40/keepers/Scottish-Premiership-Stats#all_stats_keeper
Tells a story, of course you can intepret the stats however you like :greengrin
…particularly 4th worst save percentage stacked against 4th most saves made! That last stat suggests we aren’t protecting him nearly as much as a team with our resources should be. Whereas the first stat suggests, well, thet hes not saving a lot either. Of course there are different levels of chances created, as you say, depends how you interpret.
TrinityHFC
19-03-2024, 01:09 PM
He also praised Jair to the heavens and then replaced him first chance he got, probably not a good idea to tell the world the best keeper at the club is actually hopeless.
Marciano was a better keeper than Marshall we managed to find him I don’t think it would be to difficult a task to find another on his level or above, I actually think there’s not much between marsh and Matt Macey barring distribution favouring Marshall
Marshall is miles ahead of Macey - a quick look at their careers will tell you that.
In fact, I think Macey was largely awful. Not one for loads of obvious howlers but just below average and panicky at just about everything. When he arrived in goals we went from having never lost a headed goal for a season to losing them every week. He had a great skill of not coming for crosses but also not stopping the header going by him.
Marshall does make the odd mistake but is generally very composed and does make some big saves. Would be delighted to get better but it is such a tricky position to get right.
VoltaireHibs
19-03-2024, 01:16 PM
Marshall is miles ahead of Macey - a quick look at their careers will tell you that.
In fact, I think Macey was largely awful. Not one for loads of obvious howlers but just below average and panicky at just about everything. When he arrived in goals we went from having never lost a headed goal for a season to losing them every week. He had a great skill of not coming for crosses but also not stopping the header going by him.
Marshall does make the odd mistake but is generally very composed and does make some big saves. Would be delighted to get better but it is such a tricky position to get right.
Sliding doors moment but I wish we'd kept Bogdan. When he got a run in the team he looked the best all round goalie we'd had in an age. Calm, confident, did everything well. Think he had one early flap but after that he settled really well.
CentreForward
19-03-2024, 10:23 PM
Sliding doors moment but I wish we'd kept Bogdan. When he got a run in the team he looked the best all round goalie we'd had in an age. Calm, confident, did everything well. Think he had one early flap but after that he settled really well.
Agree entirely about Bogdan! Another goalie who I wish we had had for longer was Daniel Andersson.
VoltaireHibs
20-03-2024, 10:31 AM
He will be away in the summer
Yip, if he was any good he'd have dislodged Marshall this season. Marshall has been okay, improved a bit lately, but nothing like un-droppable, The fact Wollacott hasn't managed to get into the team ahead of him tells me all I need to know.
Shrekko
21-03-2024, 10:21 AM
Monty has gone on record saying he thinks that Marshall is one of the best keepers in the SPL.
Where does anyone think there is a better one?
You think there aren't any better goalies than Marshall anywhere? That is a surprising view to say the least, even taking into account his much better recent form.
He may not be our biggest problem, but if we could get a really high quality commanding goalie it would improve us considerably.
Marshall is miles ahead of Macey - a quick look at their careers will tell you that.
In fact, I think Macey was largely awful. Not one for loads of obvious howlers but just below average and panicky at just about everything. When he arrived in goals we went from having never lost a headed goal for a season to losing them every week. He had a great skill of not coming for crosses but also not stopping the header going by him.
Marshall does make the odd mistake but is generally very composed and does make some big saves. Would be delighted to get better but it is such a tricky position to get right.
My comparison to Macey wasn’t to say Macey was good I just don’t think there has been that much of an improvement replacing Macey with Marsh especially with the difference in wage packets (I guess) between both, Marsh doesn’t command his area most recently proven at Ross County, Marsh at times looks a nervous wreck, sometimes it seems the ball has gone through him, I just think we should be looking for better than at least the 2 senior keepers we have, I don’t know much about Johnston or Boruc neither is assume are ready for 1st team football
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