Monty after match interview

[AugustaHibs]

https://x.com/hibernianfc/status/1768048141079585264?s=46&t=P5NrwaOGrUUmWr-xtR2sdg

Actually feel slightly sorry for him, total rabbit in headlights here.

Not making a lot of sense.

[Smartie]

I don’t think he speaks at all well in the media after bad results.

[Mrimbetween]

He's out his depth and has little control, hope I'm wrong

[Real Emerald]

I honestly think Frank Spencer (ooh Betty) would have came across more assertive. “But yeh, we’ve got to get on with it”, no wonder we’re walked all over.

[NC1875]

Can’t even be bothered listening to him anymore.

What did he say ?

[Chorley Hibee]

I honestly think Frank Spencer (ooh Betty) would have came across more assertive. “But yeh, we’ve got to get on with it”, no wonder we’re walked all over.

Just like his "anyone can have a bad day" line at the weekend.

As you say, it's no surprise they continue to take the piss.

[AugustaHibs]

Can’t even be bothered listening to him anymore.

What did he say ?

I’m still not actually sure. Something about sleeping and 7 mins 47 seconds and then 40 seconds after the 7 minutes.

Oh and we conceded the 1st due to the pitch being slippy.

[DinkyTwo]

No issue at all with what he's said.

Clearly trying to not say (like the past few post game interviews) we've been a bit shafted by a crucial refereeing decision.

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[NC1875]

No issue at all with what he's said.

Clearly trying to not say (like the past few post game interviews) we've been a bit shafted by a crucial refereeing decision.

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He could admit he got it wrong and we effectively wasted 45 mins with the wrong team on the pitch ?

Refereeing decisions bad or not, he’s not got a clue what he’s doing.

[MrRobot]

He could admit he got it wrong and we effectively wasted 45 mins with the wrong team on the pitch ?

Refereeing decisions bad or not, he’s not got a clue what he’s doing.

I don’t think that’s true. He started without Alf, which was wrong, but he recognised it and changed it at half time.

His interview is fine. He seems to be holding back from saying what he really wants to say about the officials, which is understandable. I wish he’d just say exactly what he thinks though.

[Callum_62]

I don’t think that’s true. He started without Alf, which was wrong, but he recognised it and changed it at half time.

His interview is fine. He seems to be holding back from saying what he really wants to say about the officials, which is understandable. I wish he’d just say exactly what he thinks though.I agree with the last paragraph

For me, I'd have lost the plot tonight if I was him

Went full Neil Francis Lennon on it

I sort of wish he would tbh

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[SeanWilson]

I agree with the last paragraph

For me, I'd have lost the plot tonight if I was him

Went full Neil Francis Lennon on it

I sort of wish he would tbh

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Yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah.

[Kato]

I think he's fuming and has been told not to go overboard.

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[The Harp Awakes]

I agree with the last paragraph

For me, I'd have lost the plot tonight if I was him

Went full Neil Francis Lennon on it

I sort of wish he would tbh

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Agreed. I'm not a fan of him but the guys job is clearly on the line and how he's holding it together after some of the decisions we've had this season is admirable.

[hibee1875]

Yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah.

Are you wanting him sent for elocution lessons?

[SeanWilson]

Are you wanting him sent for elocution lessons?

No, I would like him to leave his post. Sure he’s a lovely guy, he’s however a really poor football manager.

[007]

I think he's fuming and has been told not to go overboard.

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I think so too. As is probably the case after just about every match lately. He's doing well to remain as composed as he is, all things considered. I can't remember ever getting shafted by so many decisions.

[Callum_62]

I think so too. As is probably the case after just about every match lately. He's doing well to remain as composed as he is, all things considered. I can't remember ever getting shafted by so many decisions.I'm sure all teams get bad and debatable calls against them at some point

We seem to have had 2 months of near horrendous calls going against us though

I can't mind a time so many have went against us consecutively

With var being there to apparently stop the big mistakes it's pretty baffling

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[Real Emerald]

I think so too. As is probably the case after just about every match lately. He's doing well to remain as composed as he is, all things considered. I can't remember ever getting shafted by so many decisions.

I totally agree but he’s basically turning over and getting his tummy tickled. Imagine Lennon, Jambo Robby, McInness, Souness, Fergusson etc. standing for that treatment with some watery pish interview. He really should be effin raging with the decisions we’ve had and show it publicly by shouting it from the rooftops. Who cares if he gets banned to the stand, at least he’d be highlighting how absolutely shafted by the officials we’ve had it recently.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think so too. As is probably the case after just about every match lately. He's doing well to remain as composed as he is, all things considered. I can't remember ever getting shafted by so many decisions.

I don't know what standard of refereeing there was in Australia when he was manager though he must be wondering WTF is going on in Scottish football , it's unbelievable what's happening . I dread to think how many points we've lost this season through bad decisions tbh .

[Kato]

I don't know what standard of refereeing there was in Australia when he was manager though he must be wondering WTF is going on in Scottish football , it's unbelievable what's happening . I dread to think how many points we've lost this season through bad decisions tbh .Losing track but people were talking about 5 points this year alone. Make that seven after tonight.

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[The Harp Awakes]

I don't know what standard of refereeing there was in Australia when he was manager though he must be wondering WTF is going on in Scottish football , it's unbelievable what's happening . I dread to think how many points we've lost this season through bad decisions tbh .

He's come to a club which constantly gets shafted by officials. It's been happening for years and somehow our club and majority of our fans have come to accept it. If we get even handed officials we're happy.

If we stand up to it we'll likely get shafted even more and get accused of being mini tims spouting misplaced conspiracy theories. But if we don't stand up to it we'll also get shafted even more. A no win situation.

[Donegal Hibby]

Losing track but people were talking about 5 points this year alone. Make that seven after tonight.

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I think most of us have lost track now . Even if it was only 7 points this season the difference that would make to us is massive . Feel for the manager as I think that's a big factor too .

[007]

I totally agree but he’s basically turning over and getting his tummy tickled. Imagine Lennon, Jambo Robby, McInness, Souness, Fergusson etc. standing for that treatment with some watery pish interview. He really should be effin raging with the decisions we’ve had and show it publicly by shouting it from the rooftops. Who cares if he gets banned to the stand, at least he’d be highlighting how absolutely shafted by the officials we’ve had it recently.

I know what you mean but it never does us any good, if anything it has a detrimental effect e.g. Paul McGinn after the League Cup final v Celtic.

Rangers or Celtic manager does it then it's like a call to arms which spurs their fans into action, going nuts on social media and no doubt ramping up the threats to the officials and their families that live along the road, go to the local school etc.

[Real Emerald]

I know what you mean but it never does us any good, if anything it has a detrimental effect e.g. Paul McGinn after the League Cup final v Celtic.

Rangers or Celtic manager does it then it's like a call to arms which spurs their fans into action, going nuts on social media and no doubt ramping up the threats to the officials and their families that live along the road, go to the local school etc.

We’re being bullied and if you let them bully you, you’re toast.

[007]

I think most of us have lost track now . Even if it was only 7 points this season the difference that would make to us is massive . Feel for the manager as I think that's a big factor too .

It's not just the points directly lost due to bad decisions, it impacts the confidence that we'd get from a good run. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the numerous bad decisions has caused a build up of frustration amongst the players and was a contributing factor in the 2 red cards v Rangers.

[Biffo]

Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

That's only my opinion, of course.

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[007]

We’re being bullied and if you let them bully you you’re toast.

What would Montgomery going nuts after every match achieve?

[tonyrougier123]

Baffles me the refs decisions we are getting. That ball when it went out was whistle time end of game. It wasn’t even a 4 minute added time game let alone 7mins. But we have to be better in that moment regardless. There is a real agenda it feels against our club right now.
Probably because of the investment scenario upsetting the order of things.

[007]

Baffles me the refs decisions we are getting. That ball when it went out was whistle time end of game. It wasn’t even a 4 minute added time game let alone 7mins. But we have to be better in that moment regardless. There is a real agenda it feels against our club right now.
Probably because of the investment scenario upsetting the order of things.

The investment scenario makes me less inclined to think they are against us. They could have come up with reasons to block it.

[Real Emerald]

What would Montgomery going nuts after every match achieve?

Maybe he should applaud the referee off the park and give them a bunch of flowers?

Joking apart, he just comes across as a wet blanket, what referee or SFA bigot will be bothered by his mundane drivel. Sometimes the louder you shout and the more you shout about the injustice it might be an issue and maybe give the refs a second thought before bringing more wrath onto themselves.
Kind of like what Rangers and Celtic do.

[tonyrougier123]

Maybe he should applaud the referee off the park and give them a bunch of flowers?

Joking apart, he just comes across as a wet blanket, what referee or SFA bigot will be bothered by his mundane drivel. Sometimes the louder you shout and the more you shout about the injustice it might be an issue and maybe give the refs a second thought before bringing more wrath onto themselves.
Kind of like what Rangers and Celtic do.

At some point it’s going to have to be spoken about,it’s every game now we are on the end of some horrendous refereeing.

[Kato]

Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

That's only my opinion, of course.

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[007]

Maybe he should applaud the referee off the park and give them a bunch of flowers?

Joking apart, he just comes across as a wet blanket, what referee or SFA bigot will be bothered by his mundane drivel. Sometimes the louder you shout and the more you shout about the injustice it might be an issue and maybe give the refs a second thought before bringing more wrath onto themselves.
Kind of like what Rangers and Celtic do.

Doing what Rangers and Celtic do doesn't work for us because we are not Rangers or Celtic. It didn't work for Lennon, all that happened was he had to watch numerous games from the stand and Clancy gave even more decisions against us. On the plus side, IIRC, we had a record of something like 10 wins and 2 draws in the games where Lennon was banned from the dugout.

[Donegal Hibby]

It's not just the points directly lost due to bad decisions, it impacts the confidence that we'd get from a good run. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the numerous bad decisions has caused a build up of frustration amongst the players and was a contributing factor in the 2 red cards v Rangers.

I agree and if that is the case it's not been an easy time for our manager or his staff and maybe they need our support more now .

[Real Emerald]

Doing what Rangers and Celtic do doesn't work for us because we are not Rangers or Celtic. It didn't work for Lennon, all that happened was he had to watch numerous games from the stand and Clancy gave even more decisions against us. On the plus side, IIRC, we had a record of something like 10 wins and 2 draws in the games where Lennon was banned from the dugout.

So we curl up and say “sorry sir, you must be right, whatever you say we’ll just go on with, it must have been a penalty if you say so” “happy Christmas to all, come and get your presents”. Nah we really need ti grow some balls.

[007]

So we curl up and say “sorry sir, you must be right, whatever you say we’ll just go on with, it must have been a penalty if you say so” “happy Christmas to all, come and get your presents”. Nah we really need ti grow some balls.

I'm not saying that. I'm talking about Montgomery's post match interviews.

If the club are trying to do something about bigotry they might as well also try and do something about the ridiculous situation with 90+% of officials coming from the Glasgow and nearby associations who are too scared to referee games properly because they live amongst all the nutters.

[Donegal Hibby]

Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

That's only my opinion, of course.

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My opinion too . Good post Biffo 👍

[Baldy Foghorn]

Looked totally gutted in the Interview, good half time sub, and dominated the second half, cruel ending

[Alfred E Newman]

Looked totally gutted in the Interview, good half time sub, and dominated the second half, cruel ending

He probably knows it is eventually going to cost him his job.

[JimBHibees]

Maybe he should applaud the referee off the park and give them a bunch of flowers?

Joking apart, he just comes across as a wet blanket, what referee or SFA bigot will be bothered by his mundane drivel. Sometimes the louder you shout and the more you shout about the injustice it might be an issue and maybe give the refs a second thought before bringing more wrath onto themselves.
Kind of like what Rangers and Celtic do.

Issue is Rangers and Celtic can do we can't

[JimBHibees]

Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

That's only my opinion, of course.

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Agree

[He's here!]

I think he's fuming and has been told not to go overboard.

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That's how it seemed to me.

[VoltaireHibs]

It's not just the points directly lost due to bad decisions, it impacts the confidence that we'd get from a good run. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the numerous bad decisions has caused a build up of frustration amongst the players and was a contributing factor in the 2 red cards v Rangers.

I actually think it's got to the point where it's totally in our players heads, the ref bias. You can see them being timid in tackles, the defenders particularly, as they instinctively feel that a red card will come out as soon as an opposition player hits the deck.

Half our team look terrified of tackling.

[VoltaireHibs]

Agree

Wouldn't it be better if his plan wasn't so obviously wrong in the first place?

[JimBHibees]

I think he's fuming and has been told not to go overboard.

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Clearly this probably cannot believe what he has done to be treated so shambolicly by part time officials who are clearly incompetent at what they do.

[truehibernian]

Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

That's only my opinion, of course.

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Sssssshhhh don’t speak sense mate, won’t go down well today. After all, with 10 outfield players including a full defence still on the pitch, still be able to fully concentrate, close down space, defend a cross and do the simple thing in football and mark and pick up your man, of course it’s the managers fault 😂

[JimBHibees]

Wouldn't it be better if his plan wasn't so obviously wrong in the first place?

Matter of opinion we played ok against Rangers with similar set up. Changed it and we were much better. Probably concern whether Alf fit enough to start a game at present.

[JimBHibees]

Sssssshhhh don’t speak sense mate, won’t go down well today. After all, with 10 outfield players including a full defence still on the pitch, still be able to fully concentrate, close down space, defend a cross and do the simple thing in football and mark and pick up your man, of course it’s the managers fault 😂

Absolutely

[VoltaireHibs]

Sssssshhhh don’t speak sense mate, won’t go down well today. After all, with 10 outfield players including a full defence still on the pitch, still be able to fully concentrate, close down space, defend a cross and do the simple thing in football and mark and pick up your man, of course it’s the managers fault 😂

If it was a one off then you can put it down to player error. The fact it happens regularly is down to our ineffectual manager.

[LunasBoots]

Welsh was a massive loss last night, didn't help

[truehibernian]

If it was a one off then you can put it down to player error. The fact it happens regularly is down to our ineffectual manager.

Not the 11 professional footballers that should be fully concentrating until the final whistle no ? Had they been fully concentrating on their job and not arguing the throw in decision it was an avoidable goal - that’s down to the players and captain not the manager.

[Ronniekirk]

Am still raging at the two preventable goals we conceded
Add to that we rarely score three goals in a game and it’s clear why we haven’t won many games under Monty
But losing late goals is nothing new for us Cadden reaction to Youan fir just strolling back and not getting to Yanda showed he cared
Why did Monty leave him on when we know he is likely to do that
Stevenson would of bust a gut to get back

The Team just seemed to switch off collectively then when we realised what was happening players were all over the shop
Triantis going off was a blow as he had been immense in his new role Thoughtbi better finish on.a positive

[VoltaireHibs]

Not the 11 professional footballers that should be fully concentrating until the final whistle no ? Had they been fully concentrating on their job and not arguing the throw in decision it was an avoidable goal - that’s down to the players and captain not the manager.

Well maybe if the manager could pick a starting 11 that made sense we wouldn't need to be defending a throw in at that point to win the game?

You like NM, I really don't. Best just leave it at that. 👍

[Criswell]

Match and VAR officials really seem to have it in for us. There are two factors which I think are significant. Firstly, we are an Edinburgh team. I know from experience just how deep the animosity is against the city throughout Scotland can be. Secondly, we have Irish Catholic origins. Before anyone mentions Celtic are similar and they seem to do quite well; they are just too big and powerful to be repressed. Unfortunately not so for Hibs.

[Kato]

Match and VAR officials really seem to have it in for us. There are two factors which I think are significant. Firstly, we are an Edinburgh team. I know from experience just how deep the animosity is against the city throughout Scotland can be. Secondly, we have Irish Catholic origins. Before anyone mentions Celtic are similar and they seem to do quite well; they are just too big and powerful to be repressed. Unfortunately not so for Hibs.I always insist to Celtic fans that there origins lay 100% in Edinburgh. They don't like that one bit.

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[LaMotta]

Not the 11 professional footballers that should be fully concentrating until the final whistle no ? Had they been fully concentrating on their job and not arguing the throw in decision it was an avoidable goal - that’s down to the players and captain not the manager.

The manager left a man on the pitch who cannot be trusted to concentrate on his defensive job fully, and has proved that several times this season already he has it in him to cost us points late on in games by failing to do so. That is a clear managerial mistake.

[shamo9]

The manager left a man on the pitch who cannot be trusted to concentrate on his defensive job fully, and has proved that several times this season already he has it in him to cost us points late on in games by failing to do so. That is a clear managerial mistake.

His biggest mistake was starting without a recognised striker against a team who were always gonna play stuffy, hard to beat and defensive.

[cubehindthegoal]

No issue at all with what he's said.

Clearly trying to not say (like the past few post game interviews) we've been a bit shafted by a crucial refereeing decision.

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Yup .. and that should not be for the manager to call out anymore … it’s became more than that …we are talking consistently every single match after match after match wrong referee decisions …

If we had an honest scottish football system, with honest referees ..then they would be admitting their “mistakes” - if they actually were that - and stating exactly what they would do to rectify it so there was no repeat … match after match after match … but all you get is either silence mostly, with the odd defensive statement now and then. But no truth, or action, ever. That, in itself, is clear evidence for those with open and honest vision.

[worcesterhibby]

What would Montgomery going nuts after every match achieve?
Fans would feel he was standing up to cheating on our behalf, creating a them and us mentality and showing his strength and loyalty. Can you imagine of Jim McLean had suffered the cheating referees we have faced

[Crunchie]

Sorry, but I just don't get a lot of the negative comments on here. Surely credit should be due that he spotted his original plan wasn't working and then changed it, a change that saw us control the game and score 2 good goals!

What happened at the end with the throw-in was a joke and should never have happened, but the players switched off as a result and were punished for it.

People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in. We've played some pretty good football in games recently, and I think he deserves some credit for that despite not always getting the results those displays have deserved.

That's only my opinion, of course.

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:top marks An opinion I and many others would agree with. I feel for the guy with all that's happened in recent games. To lose another late goal in that manner , well we all know how it felt.

[easty]

Not the 11 professional footballers that should be fully concentrating until the final whistle no ? Had they been fully concentrating on their job and not arguing the throw in decision it was an avoidable goal - that’s down to the players and captain not the manager.

By that rationale it’s never the managers fault if we win or lose?

And how is it the captains fault if someone loses their man but not the managers?

[easty]

People on here simply do not like Montgomery and never have from the day he walked in.

That’s a complete load of horse ****. School playground level nonsense.

[Crunchie]

That’s a complete load of horse ****. School playground level nonsense.
I don't think it is, look back to when he's appointed I'm sure you'll find a few on here who didn't want him.

[Biffo]

As I said, it was my opinion, and I stand by it.

I fail to see what is playground level about it though?

Maybe could try and start a conversation about it though rather than just attacking what I said?

Feel free to explain your disagreement by all means but don't just reject my opinion as playground nonsense. That in itself is "playground level nonsense" [emoji16]

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[LaMotta]

As I said, it was my opinion, and I stand by it.

I fail to see what is playground level about it though?

Maybe could try and start a conversation about it though rather than just attacking what I said?

Feel free to explain your disagreement by all means but don't just reject my opinion as playground nonsense. That in itself is "playground level nonsense" [emoji16]

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Your insuation is that some people dont like Monty, never have from the start and are therefore just criticising him because they made their mind up when he was appointed.

Do you really believe that?

[ancient hibee]

Your insuation is that some people dont like Monty, never have from the start and are therefore just criticising him because they made their mind up when he was appointed.

Do you really believe that?

I certainly do.Some posters have been on his case since the start.


Personally I think he’s made lots of mistakes and he takes a long time to learn from them.Playing the central striker set up again after it failed against Rangers was a very poor decision.

[WhileTheChief..]

Your insuation is that some people dont like Monty, never have from the start and are therefore just criticising him because they made their mind up when he was appointed.


Yup, I don't know where people get that idea from, it doesn't make sense.

I didn't really see why we went for NM in the first place and nothing that's happened since he arrived has made me think he's the right man for the job.

I don't think I'm against him though. I want him to succeed but just don't think he will, so I'd rather we get someone else in.

There's no agenda and it's absurd for anyone to suggest that people with similar views to mine, want him to fail to make ourselves feel better.

I think we would stand a better chance of success with someone else as manger. It really is as simple as that for me, and I think, quite a few others.

[LaMotta]

Yup, I don't know where people get that idea from, it doesn't make sense.

I didn't really see why we went for NM in the first place and nothing that's happened since he arrived has made me think he's the right man for the job.

I don't think I'm against him though. I want him to succeed but just don't think he will, so I'd rather we get someone else in.

There's no agenda and it's absurd for anyone to suggest that people with similar views to mine, want him to fail to make ourselves feel better.

I think we would stand a better chance of success with someone else as manger. It really is as simple as that for me, and I think, quite a few others.

That's where I am. Didn't understand the clamour for him to be appointed, but I actually quite like him, seems like a good guy and I really want him to succeed. But there are serious reservations so far about his suitability based on a number of decisions he has made, particularly during games.

[LaMotta]

I certainly do.Some posters have been on his case since the start.


Personally I think he’s made lots of mistakes and he takes a long time to learn from them.Playing the central striker set up again after it failed against Rangers was a very poor decision.

I don't think anyone was on his case in the early days of his tenure? I think people have just been reacting to what they see.

[Biffo]

Absolutely, I believe that.

I have seen nothing to make me think differently.

Every time we drop points, it's the same things being said, and it's been that way from the early days of his appointment.

Are some of the criticisms valid? I'm sure we could agree that some might be, but when things have happened beyond his control, he still seems to find himself in the firing line, and I don't think it's entirely fair.

Feel free to disagree, but please don't describe my comments as playground level when they are clearly not. [emoji3577]

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[JohnM1875]

I don't think anyone was on his case in the early days of his tenure? I think people have just been reacting to what they see.

Nah, I do think there were folk on his case early on and clearly don't like him. Though I'd say it's the same with basically every manager and don't think Montgomery has been treated any differently.

[007]

Nah, I do think there were folk on his case early on and clearly don't like him. Though I'd say it's the same with basically every manager and don't think Montgomery has been treated any differently.

I agree.

[LaMotta]

Nah, I do think there were folk on his case early on and clearly don't like him. Though I'd say it's the same with basically every manager and don't think Montgomery has been treated any differently.


I agree.

There were no posts in the early days of the Monty games unfairly going for him. Look back, you wont find them.

He was appointed on the 11 September and the first time he was really questioned (mildly) was after the Rangers humping at Ibrox on the 21st October. The trio of games from 31 October to 8 November ( Ross County home, Aberdeen Semi and St Mirren away) then saw some justified questioning of decision making, tactics and performances from people. The idea that he was being pilloried from day one from a group of anti Monty posters is nonsense - lets not turn that into a Hibs.net myth.

[JohnM1875]

There were no posts in the early days of the Monty games unfairly going for him. Look back, you wont find them.

He was appointed on the 11 September and the first time he was really questioned (mildly) was after the Rangers humping at Ibrox on the 21st October. The trio of games from 31 October to 8 November ( Ross County home, Aberdeen Semi and St Mirren away) then saw some justified questioning of decision making, tactics and performances from people. The idea that he was being pilloried from day one from a group of anti Monty posters is nonsense - lets not turn that into a Hibs.net myth.

I don't need to look back, I know there were posts. Maybe not immediately after the Killie draw. But the chat of coming from the A League etc and not having a plan B started pretty sharpish.

Again, probably from folk who didn't want him in the first place. Which again I dont think is any different to what LJ would have experienced.

[LaMotta]

I don't need to look back, I know there were posts. Maybe not immediately after the Killie draw. But the chat of coming from the A League etc and not having a plan B started pretty sharpish.

Again, probably from folk who didn't want him in the first place. Which again I dont think is any different to what LJ would have experienced.

That's because you've made your mind up on that. It isnt true though. As I said the first semblance of any criticism came after the Huns game in late October.

[JohnM1875]

That's because you've made your mind up on that. It isnt true though. As I said the first semblance of any criticism came after the Huns game in late October.

Aw come on. Montgomery wasn't criticized on here (after becoming manager) before October?

[LaMotta]

Aw come on. Montgomery wasn't criticized on here (after becoming manager) before October?

No certainly not unfairly for tactics, performances, decision making, results as you and others are making out.

There were people who were sceptical about his appointment, but that's a totally different thing. There was some reasonable questioning of his subs in the St Mirren quarter final. The idea though that people were out to get him because they simply didn't like him is way off IMO.

[JohnM1875]

No certainly not unfairly for tactics, performances, decision making, results as you and others are making out.

There were people who were sceptical about his appointment, but that's a totally different thing. There was some reasonable questioning of his subs in the St Mirren quarter final. The idea though that people were out to get him because they simply didn't like him is way off IMO.

To be honest I don't think I am making that out. The point I've made from the start is some folk take to a manager and give them time and others never wanted that manager to begin with and give them no leeway (football fans are mental) I don't think Montgomery is any different in that respect.

I actually think LJ more than any other manager I can think of suffered from your second point (people were out to get him because they simply didn't like him) more than any other manager I can think of. I include myself in that.

[LaMotta]

To be honest I don't think I am making that out. The point I've made from the start is some folk take to a manager and give them time and others never wanted that manager to begin with and give them no leeway (football fans are mental) I don't think Montgomery is any different in that respect.

I actually think LJ more than any other manager I can think of suffered from your second point (people were out to get him because they simply didn't like him) more than any other manager I can think of. I include myself in that.

I think Monty is really quite likeable TBH. I certainly like him and want him to do well.

[Biffo]

No certainly not unfairly for tactics, performances, decision making, results as you and others are making out.

There were people who were sceptical about his appointment, but that's a totally different thing. There was some reasonable questioning of his subs in the St Mirren quarter final. The idea though that people were out to get him because they simply didn't like him is way off IMO.People are always sceptical of managerial appointments. Nobody is really 100% accepted, not that I can remember at least.

But there's a difference between being sceptical and being negative.

I said people didn't like him since he got the job, I didn't mention tactics or anything else.

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[007]

There were no posts in the early days of the Monty games unfairly going for him. Look back, you wont find them.

He was appointed on the 11 September and the first time he was really questioned (mildly) was after the Rangers humping at Ibrox on the 21st October. The trio of games from 31 October to 8 November ( Ross County home, Aberdeen Semi and St Mirren away) then saw some justified questioning of decision making, tactics and performances from people. The idea that he was being pilloried from day one from a group of anti Monty posters is nonsense - lets not turn that into a Hibs.net myth.

There was suggestion he should be slaughtered if he didn't win his 1st game away to Kilmarnock so I'd say you're wrong, again.

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[JohnM1875]

There was suggestion he should be slaughtered if he didn't win his 1st game away to Kilmarnock so I'd say you're wrong, again.

https://i.ibb.co/QMfHCQ1/Screenshot-20240317-003432-Dolphin.jpg (https://ibb.co/FzKY03j)
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I'm sure whatever I said after that was intelligent, right and cool. No one check please.

[LaMotta]

There was suggestion he should be slaughtered if he didn't win his 1st game away to Kilmarnock so I'd say you're wrong, again.

https://i.ibb.co/QMfHCQ1/Screenshot-20240317-003432-Dolphin.jpg (https://ibb.co/FzKY03j)
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Absolutely nothing to suggest that the poster doesn't like Monty. Some very reasonable points in it. I would say that it's you who is wrong again. :na na:

[007]

Absolutely nothing to suggest that the poster doesn't like Monty. Some very reasonable points in it. I would say that it's you who is wrong again. :na na:

I'll accept that as an admission you got it wrong this time. 👍

[LaMotta]

I'll accept that as an admission you got it wrong this time. 👍

:nanawave:

[007]

:nanawave:

Bye bye banana man.

[LaMotta]

Bye bye banana man.

Night night James Bond!