When will Monty Learn?

[LaMotta]

Regardless of dodgy decisions going against you - when you are 2-1 up in a game late on as a manager, and you have Ellie Youan in the team you HAVE to take him off.

He's done his job, helped get us in a winning position - he's had a very good game. But FFS he is a defensive liability - so just take him off!! Same scenario as at St Mirren. You can't blame Youan - he just doesn't have the mentality.

[blackpoolhibs]

When he pisses off back to Australia.

[Bostonhibby]

No argument here, never going to do anything meaningful to help the defence out so your suggestion makes sense to me, but obviously not the manager.

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[easty]

Get him tae ****.

His records abysmal. I have no idea why he’s still here, or why folk think we should stick with him!

[sauzee1989]

Already dreading his post match interviews that sound exactly the same every game

[LaMotta]

Just look at Cadden's reaction towards Youan when the goal goes in. But it can't be a surprise to anyone that has seen Youan play. How does the manager not see it. Honestly raging.

[Liberal Hibby]

Regardless of dodgy decisions going against you - when you are 2-1 up in a game late on as a manager, and you have Ellie Youan in the team you HAVE to take him off.

He's done his job, helped get us in a winning position - he's had a very good game. But FFS he is a defensive liability - so just take him off!! Same scenario as at St Mirren. You can't blame Youan - he just doesn't have the mentality.

Or you could try and keep an attacking formation and try and get a match winning third...

[LaMotta]

Or you could try and keep an attacking formation and try and get a match winning third...

You don't need a third to win the match. The match is won already - you just have to not concede.

[NC1875]

Makes Jack Ross look charismatic.

Another dud on Kensells watch.

[Ronniekirk]

You don't need a third to win the match. The match is won already - you just have to not concede.
But we all know we aren’t very good at defending a lead late on

[Liberal Hibby]

You don't need a third to win the match. The match is won already - you just have to not concede.

You do if you are Hibs.

[ekhibee]

Playing Marcondes as a striker again, when it didn't work before, hmmmm

[H18 SFR]

It will be for the greater good if we lose to livi then start the process of getting a real manager in.

[Hibby70]

When will the players learn? Once again we have a team with absolutely no bite, passion or leadership.

Youan should be binned before NM , he's a total liability with the very odd piece of brilliance. He has no idea what's involved in a game of football in this league.

Montgomery will be away next season , of that I'm pretty sure. Foley isn't pumping £6m into a team managed by an amateur who can't see that his player selection is wrong until 45mins.

[hibbydad]

It will be for the greater good if we lose to livi then start the process of getting a real manager in.
You are definitely right the man is out of his depth

[AL-Qaholik]

Completely out of his depth and an absolute charisma vacuum.

[SeanWilson]

Or you could try and keep an attacking formation and try and get a match winning third...

Nope. The best attacking teams in the world would shut up shop in our situation tonight. He’s moronic, hasn’t a clue how to manage a game.

I don’t believe in any upturn, if we hadn’t spent so much money sacking managers recently; he’d have been gone months ago.

[Chorley Hibee]

If there's genuinely a new era on the horizon, then he's definitely not the man to lead us.

Out of his depth.

[Nicho87]

Our 9th 2-2 result all season including luzern

[LaMotta]

But we all know we aren’t very good at defending a lead late on

Exactly - so take off your biggest defensive liability and replace him with someone who isnt.

[The Harp Awakes]

We went across the other side of the world for a guy who had very little credentials for the job. He always looked an iffy appointment but to be fair we've all backed him.

Week after week he's showing he is out of his depth sadly. In the last 2 games he's made 3 fatal errors. 1. Playing Marcondes up front x 2. 2. Not subbing Obita v huns when a blind man could see he was going to get another yellow. 3. Keeping Youan on the park when we went 2-1 and County went for broke with 4 attacking subs.

We've been shafted by the officials as well but the bottom line is the Manager is getting nowhere near enough points from the squad he has.

[Malthibby]

Or you could try and keep an attacking formation and try and get a match winning third...


By replacing Marcondes with Hanlon?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

If he’s out his depth showing no signs of learning or redeeming features then McDermott would see through it.

For anyone that’s been a manager or a parent you’ll know - you can fell a kid/ team something many times but sometimes they need to experience it for the penny to drop. They need to learn together. If that’s not happening there’s a problemo.

[hibbydad]

He is totally out his depth. His record is shocking

[Smartie]

Slightly concerning is that one of the main things he should have learned by now is that he can’t trust some of the current players, permanent signings who will be here next season and who were the ones who were consistently poor during the first half of this season.

Unfortunately this was a run of fixtures where he’d needed to get something out of them at some point.

[badabing67]

When he pisses off back to Australia.

Do we not have a board member who has a team down that way. He knows that league and all that, could be a good fit for them. But no McInnes to replace him. I have had my fill of boring footie.

[badabing67]

It will be for the greater good if we lose to livi then start the process of getting a real manager in.

Eh no.... we don't have to lose to Livi to get a "real" manager in. We can or should just do it.

[Ozyhibby]

I don’t care when he learns. It will be post Hibs.


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[Greenbeard]

But we all know we aren’t very good at defending a lead late on
My immediate reaction last night was here we go again, points dropped due to conceding an injury time goal. So I took a wee look this morning:
8 Nov - St Mirren (A), goal conceded 90+2, 2 points dropped.
27 Dec - Hearts (H), goal conceded 90+3, 1 point dropped.
7 Feb - Celtic (H), goal conceded 90+2, 1 point dropped.
13 Mar - Ross Co (A), goal conceded 90+8, 2 points dropped.
You can add to that:
6 Aug - St Mirren (H), goal conceded 89', 1 point dropped.
I thought it might be worse (impressions eh?) but that is still unacceptable. These 7 points lost would have us on our own in 4th on 42 with St Mirren dropping to 39.
I watched the last 20' of Plastic Whistle v Raith the other night. It wasn't pretty but Raith showed that they knew how to defend their 1-0 lead better than us.

[VoltaireHibs]

Regardless of dodgy decisions going against you - when you are 2-1 up in a game late on as a manager, and you have Ellie Youan in the team you HAVE to take him off.

He's done his job, helped get us in a winning position - he's had a very good game. But FFS he is a defensive liability - so just take him off!! Same scenario as at St Mirren. You can't blame Youan - he just doesn't have the mentality.

You absolutely can blame Youan. Jeezo.

[DIXIHIBS]

My immediate reaction last night was here we go again, points dropped due to conceding an injury time goal. So I took a wee look this morning:
8 Nov - St Mirren (A), goal conceded 90+2, 2 points dropped.
27 Dec - Hearts (H), goal conceded 90+3, 1 point dropped.
7 Feb - Celtic (H), goal conceded 90+2, 1 point dropped.
13 Mar - Ross Co (A), goal conceded 90+8, 2 points dropped.
You can add to that:
6 Aug - St Mirren (H), goal conceded 89', 1 point dropped.
I thought it might be worse (impressions eh?) but that is still unacceptable. These 7 points lost would have us on our own in 4th on 42 with St Mirren dropping to 39.
I watched the last 20' of Plastic Whistle v Raith the other night. It wasn't pretty but Raith showed that they knew how to defend their 1-0 lead better than us.

That makes depressing reading tbh. Shows poor mentality from players. I wonder how many points we have gained in 90 plus minutes?

[VoltaireHibs]

We went across the other side of the world for a guy who had very little credentials for the job. He always looked an iffy appointment but to be fair we've all backed him.

Week after week he's showing he is out of his depth sadly. In the last 2 games he's made 3 fatal errors. 1. Playing Marcondes up front x 2. 2. Not subbing Obita v huns when a blind man could see he was going to get another yellow. 3. Keeping Youan on the park when we went 2-1 and County went for broke with 4 attacking subs.

We've been shafted by the officials as well but the bottom line is the Manager is getting nowhere near enough points from the squad he has.

Excellent post. It's like NM plays the game from a coaching manual, or an excel spreadsheet. A+B will automatically = C. Then the other team turn up.

I have never seen a manager who is as incapable of reading a game, as it unfolds, in my life. His stubbornness, or stupidity, will be the end of him. Good riddance at this point from me. Had more than enough of his football and uninspiring drivel.

[KWJ]

I tend to agree. He's just not showing enough with a decent group of players. There's been good moments in a lot of our games but that's not enough and he doesn't seem to be learning.

[LaMotta]

You absolutely can blame Youan. Jeezo.

Jeezo? You are totally missing the point. Youan is a brainless footballer with little heart but at times outstanding attacking quality.

He is never going to be reliable when defending. Never.

Everybody knows that, hes proved it countless times costing us goals and he clearly will never have any sort of defensive nous. Therefore the manager HAS to be the one that takes the blame.

[VoltaireHibs]

Jeezo? You are totally missing the point. Youan is a brainless footballer with little heart but at times outstanding attacking quality.

He is never going to be reliable when defending. Never.

Everybody knows that, hes proved it countless times costing us goals and he clearly will never have any sort of defensive nous. Therefore the manager HAS to be the one that takes the blame.

I don't disagree that NM should have taken him off as soon as we went 1-2 up. But if you're trying to hold a lead and Youan can't be arsed to track back when it's pretty obvious that he HAS to, then bag of tricks or not, he shouldn't be in a Hibs jersey full stop. Cadden felt he should have tracked back, he gave him stick about it at the time.

[LaMotta]

I don't disagree that NM should have taken him off as soon as we went 1-2 up. But if you're trying to hold a lead and Youan can't be arsed to track back when it's pretty obvious that he HAS to, then bag of tricks or not, he shouldn't be in a Hibs jersey full stop. Cadden felt he should have tracked back, he gave him stick about it at the time.

Yeh I mean I think we agree it was so so bad from Youan. It's pointless blaming him though because he will never ever get that side of the game. His brain just doesnt get it.

He's hopeless at times and brilliant at times, the worrying bit is our manager doesnt know how to get the best out of him and its costing us.

[VoltaireHibs]

Yeh I mean I think we agree it was so so bad from Youan. It's pointless blaming him though because he will never ever get that side of the game. His brain just doesnt get it.

He's hopeless at times and brilliant at times, the worrying bit is our manager doesnt know how to get the best out of him and its costing us.

If I had to play Youan I'd play him up top, straight through the middle. Minimal responsibility, maximum potential for beneficial return from his tricks.

As soon as we looked comfortable (struggling to remember such a thing) I'd sub him.

[The Modfather]

Exactly - so take off your biggest defensive liability and replace him with someone who isnt.

It’s easy to say that, but the options on the bench once we went 2-1 up were. Hanlon, Stevenson, Mayenda, Macintyre & Whittaker. Not sure I see an obvious choice for a more solid right mid/right winger. Whittaker maybe the best option?

[LaMotta]

It’s easy to say that, but the options on the bench once we went 2-1 up were. Hanlon, Stevenson, Mayenda, Macintyre & Whittaker. Not sure I see an obvious choice for a more solid right mid/right winger. Whittaker maybe the best option?

But its only easy to say that because Youan has cost us goals so many times by switching off.

I get what you mean re lack of options but the manager has to find a way get Youan off. He took Marcondes off and put Hanlon on. Marcondes was poor last night but id rather he was on the pitch than Youan. But yeah put Whittaker on. Or Stevenson. Just get Youan off.

[BoltonHibee]

Foley won’t put up with Monty, he will be gone at end of season


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[Fuzzywuzzy]

Youan just seems to have turned into a massive *****bag.

[eastmainsmsh]

If I had to play Youan I'd play him up top, straight through the middle. Minimal responsibility, maximum potential for beneficial return from his tricks.

As soon as we looked comfortable (struggling to remember such a thing) I'd sub him.

Youan told me he prefers to play up front him and Maolida linked up well for the goal could be a good partnership